South China Sea

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>>129136808
Shipping channels

>>129136808
>What exactly is China's deal with the South China Sea? Why do they want control over it so badly?
Because it's their territory. Why else would it be called the south CHINESE sea

>>129136808
they're niggers trying to squat in someone else's backyard

>>129136808
Key shipping routes

They want to prepare themselves when america does get a president that goes full chimpout mode

>>129138960
chinks out

>>129136808
resources and influence

>>129136808
Second only to North Korea, this is the most important geo-political issue facing our region. China needs to pull it's fucking head in, and it needs to get a bloody nose over this. Bullies only respond to force. Unfortunately our piss-weak military and cucked leadership isn't up to the task. Trump better get on the job, quick-smart. Aussies will be there to piss fart around the edges, but it's really only the US and Japan that can stop these cunts.

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>>129136808
I’m writing a thesis about the problematics of the border delimitation around the spratly islands. I could maybe answer a few questions if i don’t fall asleep.

btw, those claims are a huge generalisation and brunei is not included in the map.

oil and fish
power projection capability
policing sea lanes so you can begin your own world police team

>>129139203
You should be more grateful that were propping up your """economy""" by buying your houses and products. Get on the winning team already

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>>129139740
it’s very late for that.
China has recently installed anti-aircraft missile defence system on Subi reef. US provocation won’t be easy there anymore.

The process of building artificial islands on submerged reefs and features that are above water at low-tide has picked up the pace. China has built 7 quite big bases there.

Trillions of dollars of goods flow through that sea lane.

Further trade agreements will create more supply chains in the region, making control of that water even more valuable in the future, they see this and want to set a precedent for control over it as its value grows.

>>129138021
Exactly this. Specifically because of the oil tankers coming from the Persian Gulf. Asia is the last puppy at the teat when it comes to petroleum. They have almost no petroleum deposits of their own and due to geography they're essentially forced to take whatever the rest of the world doesn't use.

There are numerous geopolitical strategists predicting a coming conflict between China and Japan due to this very reason.

>>129139740
I think Trump has caused them to quiet down a bit, but it will only be until America gets another weak president, and they will ramp up their activity again.

Americans really need to stop this globalist nonsense of trying to be friends with people who only want to stab you in the back, and only act friendly when you're watching them.

>>129141328
>get chyna to crack down on northwest durks
>get them in a serious war with durks
>Indonesian durks are their problem now
>ten thousand durka durks in canoes will block out the suns reflections

>>129140569
Chinks go home!

We need to make out like Dune novels
And get to three countries left -

Chi a knows wassup

>>129138960
Portuguese named/added China to the name - China's Sea.
Chinese refered it before PT as South Sea.
>>129140569
Chinese diaspora detected,

>>129141410
>>129142027

this + oil fields, fisheries, and all the potentialities (fresh water, reclamation - more territory is never bad, tide hydroplants, salinity gradient power, ...), control over the first-island chain.

>>129143151
How do you think a potential conflict could play out? What are the conditions to get the ball rolling?

>>129142611
>>129139203
I'm the Australian now
>>129142725
>Chinese diaspora detected,
What gave it away? Was it when I told you? You must be a Portuguese intellectual

>Australians = chinese trolls.
There you have your "Russian Haxxer"

>>129142059
I always wonder when I see Japanese, SK / any Asian flag if it's a weeb who escaped to one of these countries or a genuine oriental.

>>129136808
>Why do they want control over it so badly
because its worth shekels you stupid goyem

>>129143721
I'm a mixed who went to school here but I'm American and I've interacted with tons of Chinese, too much

China is basically at war with America as far as I can tell, they are just slowly weakening the west until they can usurp power. They take advantage of American globalist cuck ideology to further their nationalist agenda

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>>129138960
>>129140569
>>129143658
>Because it's their territory. Why else would it be called the south CHINESE sea
那就根据你的神逻辑,日本海是日本的呢?

台湾是一个国家
钓鱼岛是日本的
西沙群岛是越南的
南沙群岛是菲律宾的
藏南是印度的
长白山是韩国的
疆独万岁
藏独万岁
港独万岁

赵家人都必须回去

>>129145446
Sorry, it's Vietnamese and Philippine now, bub. Us three countries have every reason to keep you out of the South Sea.

>>129136808
It's literally the symbol in their flag for a reason. It represents their sphere of control in the world. They will go to war over that shit.

>>129146273
Run my post through Google Translate you retard

>>129143459
I wouldn’t treat the whole south china sea as one single unit. You have 4 island groups there, spratlys being the biggest.
In the past there already were conflicts between the vietnamese and chinese navy, philippine and chinese navy, philippines and malaysia. It never escalated because it was always limited to one or two maritime features. I think any future conflict will follow the same pattern - never escalating.

The chinese have had a long time to plan this. They’ve developed the "cabbage strategy". They bring over 50 ships to one disputed reef and block all passages, so ships belonging to other countries can’t pass through. Then they slowly build a base there, and then move on to the next unoccupied reef (even if it’s claimed by others). This passive aggressiveness is very successful for them.
Other countries (particularly vietnam which occupies 19+ reefs and islands) are just trying to defend their features against the chinese. They’ve got miniature bases there and I don’t think China will risk openly attacking any features that are already occupied.

If everything stays as it is now, countries will eventually delimitate the borders themselves according to UNCLOS.
There is a lot of overlapping on the sea, but no overlapping on the individual reefs and islands, which is a good thing - not too difficult to delimitate according to equidistance.

Right now all the countries involved are still a bit butthurt because the Permanent court of Arbitration decided last year that there are no real islands in the spratlys and paracels, which means none of them can create an EEZ around features. It will eventually cool off imo.

The Senkaku's and their oil. Also Methane Hydrate Deposits, its not worth it yet but new tech is being developed to extract them.

>>129146747
Senkaku Islands aren't in the South China Sea, you're thinking of the Paracel Islands and the Spratly Islands

>>129145446

湿屁股你的家庭绿草气味。你的母亲看起来像印度厕所。中国强

>>129136808
Control of the entirety of the South China Sea would allow China to get their new nuclear subs into the pacific undetected by the US and guarantee them a second strike capability which is something they currently lack and desperately want.

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>>129145446
你能看中文用自己吗?

我是老外可是学中文正在

>>129145446
>那就根据你的神逻辑,日本海是日本的呢?
>日本海
我在中国学习的时候,在我大学的教室里,所有的地图上“日本海”为把韩国留学生到“韩国海"修改的。他们好像认为这是他们的对袓国的义务。

>>129146512
I agree with everything. China should be as small as possible, because it's an immoral country.

the chinese logic that the south china sea belongs to them starts to make sense if you think of what the americans own in the pacific.

Midway Atoll, Wake Island, Howland Island, Baker Island and several other features are all incapable of sustaining life (can’t be economically independent) and are thus not "real islands", yet the US still claims the huge EEZ around those features.
The only real difference is that the american "islands" are not claimed by anyone else. Sooner or later someone will point this out, esp if US ratifies UNCLOS.

>>129136808
That sea belongs to Hong Kong and Hong Kong belongs to us.

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>>129145446
What does the pic say anon?

>>129148214
>not mentioned Macau and Portugal

>>129147154
Taiwan Numbah One

>>129147414
我也是老外

>>129147463
哈哈,我的中文课一直有很多韩国人,但是我从来没看过他们做那样的

>>129148515
If you don't leave, I'll report you

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>>129136808
http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-century-of-humiliation-is.html

>>129145446
>你再不是我就报警了
thanks for the new pic i can use to shitpost on chinese forums..

btw, that argument is retarded - Indian ocean isn’t indian.
SCS is also known as the west philippine sea, or east sea (vietnam). SCS is just the most common exonym.

>>129149496
And then the chinks would want Thailand, and then they would want Vancouver and San Francisco, and so on, they would never be satisfied. Fuck them all!

>>129149029
台灣現在白癡當道只會喊台灣第一這種口號

>>129136808
It is just pure and unadulterated national interests. They get to control the sea lane of communications in South China Sea. They get safe space for nuclear powered submarines that carries sub launched ICBM. And they get to excavate undersea resources.
Recently they just claimed successfully mining of Methane clathrate.
And it is also a national pride to "recover" lost territories.

Well, you want nationalism, and this is nationalism. At least chinks are serious about it.

>>129149029


你学过中文多少个月?

Fuck man i'm only 9 months in

>>129149726
我学了七年多的中文

It's a lot of time and effort, but trust me, it's worth it man

>>129149496
I hope we can help you get your islands back one day Vietnam-kun

>>129152064
Are there better tools to use besides MDBG and googuru transrate? If I"m in over my head with what I want to write, I use google then reverse-engineer the words they used with MDBG and then rewrite it myself.

你用你的中文才能什么地方? 我用中文就说话跟厂和代工, 但是我不用中文这么多因为我不要他们 取笑我, 哈哈

>>129149496
Implying some random blogger's opinion is worth a shit. Not even worth a click.

Anyway, the SCS has practically always been China's. China has had sovereignty over the seas of Asia for about 2000 years and the countries in that region were vassals.

>>129149788
Nope. China has never overextended itself. The SCS was originally China's.

>>129154182
It's just a natural body of water, it's not a product that has a creator and owner. China might have *controlled* it in the past but now it's *controlled* by other countries.

>China has never overextended itself.
Well, it drove the Tais out of their ancestral homeland when it conquered the southern half o the country. Then there's the invasion of Tibet and subsequent "cultural revolution" that murdered millions of innocent people. Oh, then there's North Korea and Mongolia, I could go on but I just want to keep you from fooling any anons.

>>129153936
for sentence structure i sometimes use youdao dictionary 有道词典..
看一看有道词典的例句。非常有用

>>129154004
>sovereignty over the seas
nope. they just built a few huge ships and visited a few places, such as southern india and indonesia.. But didn’t establish trade routes or control over the seas.
Sure there were some fishermen in the SCS but that’s not controlling the sea. China was until very recently always focused on the land, not sea.

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>>129154004
> Bill Hayton
> random blogger
Retarded illiterate chink.

>>129154182
Also brainwashed and delusional.

MUH NATIONAL SHAME

>>129156011
What's sad is that a billion people have been brainwashed to believe this shit, even though their own government is responsible for a trillion times the destruction of ancient Chinese culture as the rest of the world combined. And then they attack white historians who are study China for a living. While buying a bunch of shit they don't need from Western countries like appul and prahdah. Absolute and total cucks.

>>129153936
Nciku is a good dictionary for example sentences. Also make sure you download Pleco, my Chinese wouldn't be where it is today without that app

I'm actually sad for china all the lying would catch up to them eventually, their foreign policy relies on people believing what Beijing promises to other countries while doing the opposite

So what happens when people stop believing what the chinese say are white lies or that they didnt lie and the other party didnt understand what beijing was saying.

>>129156011
Implying his opinion is worth a damn. The US has practically handed the SCS on a silver platter to China. No amount of your anti-Chinese rhetoric and memes on this Laotian basket weaving board is going to change a damn thing. So kindly fuck off you irrelevant 越南猴子 imbecile.

>>129156383
>trillion times

You're an idiot.

>>129160858
>越南猴子

I laugh each time I see Chinese claim they're anti-imperialist and that the US should get out of Asia, and then proceed to call all of their neighbors "monkeys".

There's literally no difference now between Chinese nationalist rhetoric and Japanese nationalists rhetoric during WWII

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>>129160858
> can't present a single piece of evidence regarding the historical basis of the claims, instead resort to the intellectually dishonest method of chinking out while reminding the audience of insecurity stemming from the century of humiliation
Typical chink behavior kys.

>>129156011
>Chinese plebs believe this map
Every Chinese person I've met was unreasonable on any border issue.

>>129147463
GET OUT OF SIBERIA YOU FUCKING SQUATTER CHINKS

>>129160858
Oh what the paper tiger of a baby and army law by corrupt bureaucrats in uniforms and communist indoctrinated officers who spend 50% of the time studying communist rhetoric.

Pretending to be a professional army is all PLA is good for, that's why they have the China day March nonsense commemorating a war against the japs mostly fought by chink nationalists and the Allies while the commie pussies waited it out and stabbed the weak nationalists in the bacl to take over.

Go fuck yourself you small dicked, dog eating, eye half open chink cunt.

Question to all of you guys typing in moonrunes: how the fuck do you do it? What do your keyboards look like?

>>129162255
Chill retard, he's doesn't seem to be a chink, he's just a Russkie who can speak Chinese

>>129160858
GTFO out of my country you insectoid chink. Amazing how you hive-minded shits literally think you're entitled to territory like real human beings.

>>129162377
transliteration + predictive text, I presume.

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>>129162377
You type out how the moonrunes are pronounced using a regular keyboard, and the input system brings up a list of moonrunes with the same pronunciation which you then select from. A lot of times the input system can also predict the sentence you're typing.

>>129162740
>>129162822
I see. Thanks.

>>129162986
没问题匿名

Spratley Islands

>>129136808
Shipping routes. Methane ice.

>>129140156

This is one of the cleanest maps I've ever seen on the issue.

Do you imagine this is a prelude to greater pressure on reclaiming Taiwan in any way?

>>129162822
Wait so I have to learn Chinese?
Fuck

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good to see u guys preparing yourselves for the chinese century, SCS is totally chinese sea btw

>>129139740
Go tell it to the East Timorese, the people of PNG and all those Pacific Islanders you lord it over you fucking faggot.

>>129136808
One of the largest shipping line in the world pass through these straits. China want to bully them with more tariffs.

>>129161409
:( dont be sad,
hopefully du30 kills isis before independence day
t. dating a flip

>>129163782
nah m8 (((chyna))) gonna go belly up

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>>129163782

Wrong.

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>>129163782
American Century ain't over yet 哥们儿

>>129140569
>You should be more grateful that were propping up your """economy""" by buying your houses and products. Get on the winning team already

>20 RMB has been deposited in your account.

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>>129165617
>filename

>>129166344
>>129165266
feeling lucky tonight

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>>129166344
fixed

>>129165634
What are you like a Hong konger or Taiwanese?

>>129167442
White guy who speaks Chinese actually

>>129163905
Tell them the Chinks are the biggest threat to peace in APAC? Sure, will do.

>>129136808
>Why do they want control over it so badly?
Resources, strategic position, image.