US Navy, redpilled?

Nuclear power program.

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>>129116471
>Tfw shit at mathematics
Otherwise I would agree 110%

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>>129115344
FIGHT FOR IS_RA_EL GOYM

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>>129115344
The united states built the best navy the world has ever fucking seen during WW2, they manned their ships with the hardest of men and the branch was run by some of the bravest men to ever walk this earth

now it is invested with niggers and sheboons. You have to be braindead or disabled to not get in, it is super fucking easy. Join a real branch, dont join the navy, it is not what it used to be even 20 years ago

>women want to navy
>lower all physical requirements because women
>now your average female mariner is about as tough as a toddler

>>129115344
amazing job security

>>129116715
Anything submarine duty related. It's a totally different experience than the surface navy. Much more laid back.

>>129115344
The one the U.S. Navy decides is the best one for you at the time of the needs of the U.S. Navy.
Rail Gun Weapon Officer I would guess.

>>129116940
Go fuck your self

>>129116978
True, you make a very good point
My grandfather was in the navy, but I suppose things have changed drastically since he served, particularly in female service, have you seen any branch's recruitment site?

>>129117188
but i wish it wasnt co-ed anymore.
everyone hits on the girls, and i mean everyone. everyone wants to get with the hottest one on the ship, its like fucking high school on water except we shoot things.

>>129117210
I'm around 5'10, isn't there a height requirement for subs?

>>129115344
If youre gonna join the Navy join the fucking mens department
>Marine Corps
>last real US military branch

>>129115344
naval intelligence obviously.

>>129117566
Not that I know of. There was a 6' 5" guy on my boat. You just have to remember to duck.

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>>129117408
>>129117408

>>129117868
I respect the hell out of the marines, got a cousin in there
I see shit like this and it pisses me off
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITNgeXVvJT0

>>129115344
If you're in here then you want an Army or Marine combat arms MOS so you can remove kebab instead of being a faggot.

>>129115344
AF Faggot here, living near Norfolk.

Don't join the Navy if you're white.
Aircraft Carriers and the Navy in generals has major gang issues.

If you're white, either go Marines or Air Force.
Air Force will set you up with a better job placement afterwards, you live in better conditions and eat better food. You still get experience overseas, and for the most part are treated like an adult.

>>129115344
Fuck off, NRC.

Hey anon, former navy here. Definitely look into the engineering rates if you have it in you. Opens a lot of possibilities once you get out. I was a hull tech by the way

>>129117971
Really? I remember speaking to a recruiter who came to my school years ago and he said there was a height limit
>>129118018
FUCK women
>join military
>AWESOME
>get "raped"
>why are women getting raped?
Also I see that crest, is that Canada?

>>129117868
>Be me.
>Be in Bosnia in '96.
>Marines come out with a brand new toy called a "UAV".
>Watch Marines fly UAV into a tree.
>"Gee, Marine, is that a bug or a feature?"
>COL gets pissed off at you, makes you drive cargo HEMMTT for Marines to go get it.

>>129115344
If you suck at math, then the USN is NOT for you. Out of 112+ jobs, maybe only a dozen do NOT involve math.
USN 1993-98
Main propulsion engineer(gas turbines)

>>129118541
I served '84 to '90 (EM1SS) so things may have changed.

>>129118327
>Aircraft Carriers and the Navy in generals has major gang issues.
I was on a carrier for four years, no it doesn't.

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>>129118541
do these women look like warfighters?

>>129118327
Can confirm. My 19K ass spent 2 years w/AF ETAC/TACP detachment.
AF lives high on the fucking hog, even when they're slumming with the Army.
Overseas, even the E1 ETACs had off-post civilian apartments because AF said Army housing was shit.

>>129115344
Don't do it lad trust me. Navy is blue pilled as fuck. Unless you have a 100 iq and college isn't an option. AMA I'm enlisted and hate my life.

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Just fucking why do they push "stronk wimen" in the military? Why does our govt humiliate our military by forcing an image of a "diverse" military of twinkle and dykes?
I've come to think that the military is slowly becoming cucky like college except you get to shoot guns and shit

I see our military in the current year and I am NOT fucking proud of it, is there anyway Trump will make the military great again and stop pushing faggotry?

>>129119363
What's your rate and what type of ship are you on?

>>129116978

Ex wife was navy. She never once had to perform a PT test after she left basic training. They had PT , but it wasn't mandatory. Mostly it was just frisbee football or some gay shit.

>>129119363
Why aren't you out raping Jap women, anon?

Gas turbine electrician for 5 years. Lots of opportunities when you get out

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>>129119269
I WANT TO FUCKING DIE
>>129119363
What's your MOS, what do you do?

>>129118905
Then I guess I was lied to by the Navy guys I work with, my fault there.
>>129119305
Yes, there is actually a waiver you can get when going TDY to an Army post. When I go to Bragg they always try and stick me in the old Airborne dorms and I fill out the waiver, and am immediately living life well at the hotel near Kickin Chicken.

>>129119480
I'm an Corpsman, so enlisted medical. I don't work on a ship. The required Asvab for this rate is 50. And I have a 92 so I'm overqualified. Maybe if u pick a job that suits you you will be ok.

>>129115344
Former US Navy submariner here. Don't be a skimmer fag and join the submarine Navy, you'll be glad you did. Unless you're a faggot who can't handle that submariners do easily twice as much work as a surface Navy fag.

>>129119588
Because Filipinos are easier and don't press charges when you abuse them

>>129118905
t. navy chef

>>129119851
>When I go to Bragg
Mother of God.
I grew up in the Fayettenam area.
Stay away from the Murk (Murchinson Blvd) and the "Bottom's Up" strip club.
I literally picked the only MOS that would guarantee I would never see Ft. Bragg again.
Ft. Bragg has no M1-series tanks.

>TFW one year after enlisting get sent with a training team to Ft. Bragg to train Nasty Guard troop transitioning from M60A3's to M1s. FML.

>>129119851
You probably were. The only "gang" on the carrier I encountered was the fucking Filipino Mafia, and they call themselves that as a joke.

>>129119934
I was an MM.

>>129118615
Lmao nice

>>129120042
Subnavy is best Navy

>>129117971
6'5" former submariner here. Were you on the Hartford or Springfield, by any chance?

>>129120201
Ayy lmao, yeah I don't troll down there. I am only usually there for a week and then I'm out the door to a safer place like Afghanistan.

I am guessing you reside near the Kileen area?

>>129120263
USS Lewis and Clark SSBN 644 Chas.SC

>>129117210

Lying or speculating, either way you're wrong

>>129120237
When I was in the 3rd ACR we had FIVE fucking Hawaiian tankers.
FIVE! In a single unit.
I swear the SCO was trying to make his "diversity" quota that year.
They called themselves "The Hawaiian Mafia" but they were cool as fuck and solid soldiers.
I think they were the only ones in all of El Paso, TX.

>>129117868
I was in the Navy 35 years ago.
Tried to join the Marines but I scored too high on the ASVAB

>>129116940
holy shit this is 100% true

>>129115344
Navy doesn't have mos. They are called rates. I'm actually going to bootcamp in 6 days. For the average pol user I would say. Intelligence specialist or cryptillogic tech.(hacking) maybe operational specialist. Check out navy COOL for job descriptions

>>129120416
Fuck no, my mom had a house off Cliffdale in the McFayden lake area.
It was cool back then but it's a shithole now.

>>129120900
>scored TOO high
Shut the fuck up dude

>>129120186
Even if I was a "navy chef", I was still on the ship and would know better than someone that wasn't on a carrier if there were street gangs running amok. How would that even fucking work lmao? Does one gang sling crack in the main machinery room and battle the gang that claims the forecastle?

>>129120590
Personal pref. If I was to do it again i would go right back to subs. (I spent time on a tender too)

>>129121285
The fuck do you know? You aren't even a boot yet

I'm in the Navy. Don't join the Navy. Join the COAST GUARD.

>>129121371
Oh I meant with the Abrams, figured you were at Ft Hood with the rest of the armored crazies.

>>129120519
Ooooh, a boomer fag. I was wondering why you were saying the submarine Navy was so laid back. I was like, wtf, I worked my ass off on a submarine.

On fast attacks we don't have two crews per boat so we don't get literally 180 days of vacation time per year while another crew takes the boat out to sea, like you faggots do. Also, when we do go out to sea, it's to actually do something, not to do 3-dimensional figure-8's in the middle of the ocean for 3 months straight just in case there's nuclear war.

>>129121501
Same here, I'd go right back to tanks even though there's nothing "light" on a tank.
Fucking shit up with an M1-series is just too goddamn cool and worth the bullshit you go through 99% of the time.
Like taking an MPAT anti-air/truck round and putting the prox sensor on "AIR" and firing it at ground troops.
After it's arming timer goes off it senses the ground and explodes, turning it into a modern-day beehive round that just sends troops straight to hell.

5 year enlisted, AMA, and no, I don't hate my life.

>>129121585
Redpill me on the coast guard...

>>129115344

Seebees. Be EO (Equipment Operator). Go to crane school. Get out of Seebees, striaght into an operating union. Get NCCCO certified. Be union crane operator. Sit on your ass all day, making big money + pension.

>>129121827
I know, right? Aint it great?

>>129115344
Aegis Firecontrolman

Guaranteed small ship and potential bonus for reinlisting. Strong credits if you aim for college.

2 years of training and 4 years of some other command guaranteed.

No matter what rate you are , be prepared for a wait in the Delayed Entry Program (dep) before you get sent out.

Verify what your recruiter says through online research.

>>129122116
You made our shitters in Bosnia and Kosovo!
Thanks!
Every time I took a big ol' shit I thought "Seebees are cool!"

>>129122228
What's that, two years at your A-School? Automatic third class when you get out?

>>129121535
2 brothers in, dads retired, and lived around it My whole life lol

>>129122106
There is no red-pilling the Coast Guard.

>>129122106
It ain't the fucking navy and is technically not a military branch, so the faggotry is far less but you still get to go on ships.

Realistically don't join the military. Get a real job.

>>129115344
>serving the Jews
Nah mate

>>129122795

Sounds like a challenge to me.

>>129119523
False, you have to do the prt twice a year and PT is mando 3 times a week unless you're at some shit command with 3 people. (LS1)

>>129115344
as it was explained to me..
if you're a manlet go navy.
if you're crazy as fuck go marines.
if you're complacent doing little but study go airforce.
in between smart and crazy go army.
like boats go coast

>>129122106
They're no longer apart of the DoD. The DHS gobbled them up a few years back. They basically troll around the coast all day sun bathing and worrying about what exhaust to put on their Subaru.

>>129122860
Well between college and military, military seems somewhat better.
Law enforcement usually takes you if you have military background

>>129122919
Just because you make your dudes do PT doesn't mean that every LPO forces people to do that. We never did PT, but we had to do the PRT.

>>129122919
Sounds like faggotry to me.
We did PT 5 days a week, 0600-0700 - push-ups, sit-ups, run for ten miles.
On deployments it was EVERY fucking day unless on early mission or guard.

>>129115344
Navy's fine if you can keep away from deck apes. That means striking a rate that they don't have the intelligence to get into.

>>129122039
Rate and duty stations? Relationship status

>>129123129
Don't do either of those. Take a trade (that's basically what you'd get in the military anyway). Work a trade, learn to invest, live within your means and you'll do just fine.

>>129123579
People still strike for rates? I've heard of that, but I didn't know there were people without rates still. What do they do all day? Were those the assholes needlegunning while I was trying to sleep?

>>129116471


enjoy high failure rate and subs/carrier life, and only having gjrls for kids.

>>129117188
Mostly true. Only if you yet in and don't fuck up

>>129117210
Hot racking, and barely hits ports due to fears of nuclear activity on subs.

>>129117321
Still getting tested in Dhalgren

>>129117432
Two words:
Pregnant chiefs

>>129117868
Marines fuck up liberty everywhere for everyone. You only need to Google "marine rape japan" for this week's culprit.

>>129118327
Mostly true. Norfolk is a clusterfuck shithole. Avoid that and carriers in general. Air force is hoghly womanized so no.
>>129118510
Mostly good untill you look at HT and clean shitters.

>>129118619
True. Mostly for advancement.

>>129118905
San diego

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>>129116978
we're all fucked mate, Kiwi's just doomed themselves as well

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/top/332212/navy-vessels-to-be-commanded-by-women

>>129115344
>>129117408
>>129117868
>>129119305

these faggots arent completely wrong OP. if you go for the best mechanical or technical job you can get by scoring good on the ASVAB. the navy seems like it always has a shitty budget giving ships 3rd world conditions like leaky pipes, shitty food and places to stay. obviously go with the best job in another brach that will give you skills for civilian jobs

>>129123991
Usually happens when people flunk out of A B or C school. One of the guys I went to high school with joined the Navy right after me. He flunked out of his A school and ended up having to strike to make MM3. I don't know how the fuck he did that since he was an Airman.

>Be in One-Station Unit Training (OSUT)
>Be in PT formation
>"Drop faggots, DROP!"
>DO push-ups
>"Private Lee, why the FUCK can't you do one goddamn push-up?!?!"
>Mah belly's in the way, Drill Sergeant
>Eruptions of laughter
>"Oh 'mah belly's in the way' huh? We'll see about that, pussy!"
>TFW forced to grab the back of PVT Lee's belt and assist him with doing push-ups, slamming his fat fucking belly into the ground.

>>129124139
>not fit for prisoner consumption

>>129115344
I was in the Army. The best advice I can give you is to STAY FUCKING SINGLE! If you go in the Navy, which would be cool, be a Submariner. But do not get married. That way you can save all your money, when you get out you can go to school, and not have to worry about working while you do.

>>129123991
>Were those the assholes needlegunning while I was trying to sleep?
Yeah that was them. I was in charge of them on my last ship. Although I told them only to do it during the day...

>>129124093
It all depends on your AFSC.
If you're in an ammo dump, or in maintenance there are few and far between. If you're in supply or intel, yeah there's a lot of women.

Can confirm, Norfolk is worst place I have ever lived.

>>129115344
AF is most based, along with Marines for the less intellectual.

>>129115344
>Navy

Join the Army or Marines. Unless you become a pilot, SEAL or some job that has real world applications don't bother.

>>129124674
0315, shower and crawl into my rack after a long ass watch.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT...
...
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BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>129124792
Marines are going to do two things for you: 1) Turn you into the goddamn Hulk if you're smart about it, but you're probably not smart and 2) teach you about giving zero fucks about anything else in life anymore.

>>129124997
Most Navy jobs have real world applications as they're trade related.

>>129115344

>Navy is redpllled

More like silver-pilled these days, if you catch my drift.

>>129124792
I'm in the army, and boy join the fucking air force everyone

Everything is better, hell I'll be driving to work one day and my jaw would drop as the airforce women would casually run by, somehow looking beautiful while sweating their asses off for running half a mile

>>129118327
>Virginia

Tbqh one of my major hangups with joining the AF, is that I might have to live in a libshit state. Aside from the fact that private pay for a comp science masters graduate will be higher than in .mil

>>129123129
Air Force life is quite nice if you choose wisely, and the benefit package is well worth doing a career so I did.

There's a saying that there are many ways to serve. Choose wisely, ignore memes.

>>129125266
Dumbass, fuck the military. Comp-Sci grad - go into a three-letter agency, retire, make huge bucks in private secotr.

>>129116940
Yes join the Navy. We will give you many shekels, be good goy

>>129125766
Faggotry confirmed.

>>129115344
If you're going to go enlisted Navy don't plan on doing anything that's going to set you up directly career-wise on the back side. Do your time with something you can hopefully enjoy, and take advantage of the GI Bill on the backside. Aircrew seems like it would be the way to go. Helo or P-3. P-3 officers are dildos typically but at least the deployments are hardly deployments and you can crosscountry around. Helos are way more chill but shorter legs on them for cocking about and you will end up on a boat.

>>129125542
>3 letter agency
And also probably have to live on a libshit state, except maybe NSA has stutf in Utah, but mormons. Ugh.

>>129125266
You can either be in the hard red states like South Dakota or Texas. Or be in the libtard shit like Cali, Washington. It all depends, but if you go IT, you can literally get stationed anywhere there is a networking operating support squadron.

Yeah you'll make much more in private sector up front, but you don't join the military for the money, you join for the benefits. Healthcare, BAH, BAS, discounts on a lot of shit and you can travel on Hops all around the world for a pocket change.

>>129125266
>Tbqh one of my major hangups with joining the AF, is that I might have to live in a libshit state.

Odds are against it since BRAC rounds consolidated most AF basin in red states. If smart, try to get stationed in Europe, Japan or Korea early on. The US is boring by comparison unless you hide in your dorm and do nothing.

>>129119363
You are wasting your life if you aren't taking advantage of traveling where you're at.

>>129119523
Total fucking bullshit unless she played the system somehow.

>>129120042
So fucking untrue. You assholes don't do shit unless you're engineering or a cs.

>>129120257
You guys can't pull into shit, except another man's shitter. Alsi your topside rovers are ridiculous

>>129121418
First class?

>>129121585
Throw away your respect?

>>129122106
14 day patrols and wifes cheat on them.

>>129122116
Then turn around and complain about not getting hazardous duty pay in Spain and Romania, apparently.

>>129115344
The Navy has the largest population of faggots. Literal faggots. When you hear of jokes about why names of sailors are sewn of the back of their pants, or buttpirate jokes, or "seaman" jokes, there's a reason for that. The women that signs up are usually ugly, and fat. Lots of niggers and sheboons with horrible hygiene. If they were ever decent before, they will turn fat and ugly after one year. You may have to stay in your boat for one year, and you know what they say about sailors and loneliness.
>They'd fuck/get fucked by anything and anyone
Did I mention the niggers with terrible hygiene? When you're in the bowels of a boat, with little ventilation, and it's fucking hot, and you're surrounded by niggers, you'll understand. Even if it was ventilated, bad breath and halitosis.

In the pozzed meter, they're about the same with the Chair Force, with their inclusion and diversity bullshit. Go join the Army or the Marines. Probably the Army, because you won't have a future when you get out of the Marines outside of being a bodyguard, a security guard, a PMC, or something that involves killing or getting killed.

>>129125952
Aside from essentially donating my time in service of my country, the other benefit I see is just not being "one upped" in life.

Tired of people saying "well I was in the military blah blah".. and using it to justify a statement that doesnt have shit to do with their experience.

>>129122463
2 years (1 at a school, 1 at c school) then 4 at a ship.

It's a small community.

>>129125910
I worked around some of those folks overseas (AROUND, not WITH) and they were red-pilled as fuck.
Didn't see them much, but we'd occasionally meet in the "smoking shelter" for cigars.

>>129124770
Yorktown might be your thing.

>>129126023
Hmm alright. Only other concern is becoming rusty. I figure . Mil work will be more like IT and less like CS, most of the CS development is probably just private contractor work

>>129122106
Ex Coast Guard. I miss it and wish I stayed in. I did 3 years active duty on a buoy tender. Physically the hardest job in the guard. Never worked out but left that boat with fucking giant arms. My boat had a 21 person billet, 18 dudes 3 girls. Those girls fucked the whole boat except the captain because I'm pretty sure he was gay. Best time of my life.

>>129126402
>NSA redpilled
What? Tell me more...

>>129124997
Soo... pretty much every job in the navy except OS...

>>129125952
>but you don't join the military for the money,

Dafuq? Take a retirement pay table and also run the numbers on your other deferred earned compensation over your expected lifetime post-retirement. By retirement time you'll likely have some compensable disability to top that off. You don't get shit for that in civilian life.

Between active duty and retirement I haven't felt a recession. My civilian peers often had their 401Ks evaporate when the banksters blew up the economy.

>>129126402
By the time ive got my masters ill be 28, too old to become an officer? Concerned ill be fucking mid-30's with no wife (probably a bad idea to wife up or get involved with a female while serving)

>>129126315
Yeah, if anyone ever says "I fight for your freedom" please punch them in the face. Killing mudslimes with a 5th grade reading level has nothing to do with our constitutional rights or liberties.
>>129126530
I live in Poqouson actually, got sick of driving across the bridge/tunnel every day to work. Pretty comfy here, but as soon as you leave and hit either Hampton or Norfolk it's fucking Niggerville.

>>129126706
The names they would use for "today's bad guys" when breaking out the smokes and bantz...moo-slimes, haji, Ahmed, faggots, etc.
But then again, maybe they were sent overseas into the shit BECAUSE they were red-pilled assholes and their higher-ups were hoping they'd get killed?

>>129126899
Agreed

>>129126706
you have no idea

>>129127012
>Killing mudslimes with a 5th grade reading level has nothing to do with our constitutional rights or liberties.

Of course not. It's just FUN AS FUCK.

>>129127012
I fucking hate norfolk.

The only thing good there is the Yard House and Public House pub.

>>129126884
Not going to argue with you there, I was speaking more along the lines of annual salary for someone who could potentially make $140K in the private sector, versus coming in as a butter bar making $55K and not seeing 6 figures until full bird was put on.

>>129127260
I had to go to Bremerton for a few months, that was garbage. Never been to Norfolk.

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>>129127202

Information is a helluva drug

>>129126884
Dont you have to be in for 20 years before retirement pay becomes a thing?

>>129127032
>>129127202
I've never understood how the higher ups in military, 3 letter agencies, etc, could be such raging faggots

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>>129127439
Kek, Unironically this

>>129127219
No argument from me there, but I hate that we have to spend billions of tax dollars to do it. I wish we would just throw Geneva out the window and issue our broadswords for the door kickers.
>>129127260
I don't go down there unless I have to, Bob's Gun Shop is the only establishment I frequent across the water.

>>129127563
Because the higher up you go, the more you have to play politics instead of doing your fucking job

>>129120900
I scored an 80 and they wouldnt let me sign for grunts so i signed up for combat engineer, then mid boot they switched me to armorer

>>129127321
I was making $160k in IT overseas in combat zones.
Only have high school diploma, am former military, and autistic sociopathic tendencies.
Perfect fit in a combat zone.
I just knew all the telecommunications and IT systems and could build a network complete with shot back to main in the middle of no-fucking-where.
My DD-214 and post-military resume screams "possible PTSD!" and scares civilian employers.
Meh.

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>>129127707
It's because of shit like that, that I absolutely despise our country.

We do not have a govt that represents the interests of the people, but rather a government full of traitors
Course, we already know this

>>129127989
You're lucky. The CEV is complete shit and breaks down all the goddamn time and winds up being towed/trailered everywhere.

Don't do it, Anon. My Grand Father was Navy. I was Navy. It is now shit with all the women and basketball Americans. Unless you want to go SEAL/SWCC/Diver/Nuke, enlist in the Air Force or Coasties.

>>129128014
It's true, everyone's unfortunately out for themselves instead of being out there to serve the country.

Well, from what i've seen anyways the enlisted the ones keeping the thing afloat while the officers peck at one another

>>129127991
If potential employers can infer that from your resume then you are doing it wrong. You owe them zero explanation.

>>129128014

It's just because people are afraid to call people out for their bullshit.

System has made it clear it doesn't like boat rockers.

>>129126571
Do what my bro did after he retired from the Air Force and go for a Federal civilian career in IT. War is highly network-centric and I don't fucking mean email. Aircraft have their own networks, data links to other birds and ground stations, etc.

There's no penalty for "double dipping" Federal and military retirements so you can do two careers and lead a VERY comfy life. It's quite common. Become wise in the ways of the military-industrial-corporate complex that is the real America. It's a very, very nice world and the main entry to it is military. Your human network in the military can be a huge asset over a lifetime.

4chan doesn't get many career retirees and instead tends toward the young and disgruntled who have no or very short term career perspectives. I stumbled upon /k/ then /pol/ and like it the unmoderated discussion.

I have never met an AF retiree who regretted staying in for the duration. Many choose education as a second career because tech training is fun. Dat retirement check is genuine "fuck you" money so we use it to do what we want.

They aren't called mos they are called rates, and I was an AO.
Pro:
Got to play with guns and bombs
The A school was a cake walk.
Normally chilled work.
Cons:
You don't get to actually blow shit up.
You work very hard twice a month.

>>129116940
this is a fucking retarded screenshot the likes of which could only have been produced by a jew trying to mislead gullible redditors with red herrings.

to say that the jews, who went from the 17th century through to the 20th century constantly crying for more autonomy and national consciousness and spreading their influence among the elites of the financial and cultural of whatever culture would accept them... to say they have no long term plan is prima facie ludicrous to such an extent that i don't believe any natural /pol/tard or even redditor is enough of a fucking retard to believe it.

seriously stop fucking posting this garbage

>>129128400
Nope. They watch goddamn CNN and then read the locations and "infer" it on their own.
I'm all smiles and kindness in a suit during the interview.
But the DefCons in Orlando love me.
I'm stupid enough to go anywhere if the pay is good.
"Exercise planning support in Senegal? Sounds like fun!"

>TFW you find out Senegal is a shithole surrounded by shitholes on a shithole continent

>>129128715
Were you the guys that wore red? I'm not very familiar with the airdale skittle shit.

>>129127991
Lol, the unit I deploy with only recruits those sort of people. So no judgement here.

>>129116471
Was thinking about doing this. What should I expect?

>>129128925
>the unit I deploy with only recruits those sort of people
That's how you know you're in a good unit.
"Gents, k-pots off, softcaps on, we're on an autobahn so crank it up to 70 - we got radials, yo!"

>>129127506
Under the old system you vest at 20. The Blended Retirement System takes effect December 31, 2017.

Of course 20 (and more for the pay bumps) flies by.

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/the-military-retirement-system.html

>>129124093
>>129118510

Welding and pipefitting are worth top $$ right now with all the pipelines being built.
If you have the nuke NEC, there's still plenty of opportunities with the expansion of nuclear plants in the US

>>129129135
Do not fucking do this, do not fall for the nuke meme. Just fucking trust me, you don't want any part of this.

Imagine taking all the autistic anime watching faggots from /b/ and putting them in a military uniform. They still have the same shit attitude, but instead of "newfag" you're a NUB. Now roll that all up with the worst working conditions imaginable, with endless hours and no sleep for days at a time. Training, watch, studying, work, watch, studying, getting bitched at by some pimply faced first class nerd.

>>129129686
Any recommendations on what to do in the navy?

>>129129135
I really can't say. As I said in above post I was '84 to '90. I'm sure things have changed quite a bit since then.

>>129121285
WRONG!
RATES=RANKS
Ratings = MOS/ Job description.

Best rate w/o security clearance?

>BM?

>>129115344
I hope you like mopping floors, scrubbing toilets and painting the side of the ship.

>>129130174
Nothing. Even DATs (DumbAss Tankers) had to have clearances.

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>>129121392
that was a joke dumbass.
lighten up Francis

>>129129945
Join the Air Force.

t. Former Sailor

>>129129945
Someone might have a better idea than me, I was in the engine room and I wouldn't do that again. I would do CT if I had second chance.

>>129130108
Did they just change that or something? Because I'm sure rating and rate are used interchangeably.

>>129130299
Whoops, i meant secret clearance, not security.

>>129130346
You called him Francis. Now he has to kill you.
It's the law.

>>129115344
Whats up Anon I literally have 2 weeks left in the navy. I am a GM at a combat command. Deployed to the middle east twice and south and central america once. The navy is alright, i joined at 18 and it was great for me, fucked a lot of whores, drank a lot, and met a lot of good people. Don't get me wrong theres A LOT of shit that goes on. A LOT. BUT. you really have to weigh your options. If you want to have a blast, get in shape, get motivated, and go special forces. If you want to make money and have a blast go OFFICER and then go special forces. If you don't know what to do...fuck it, join. Biggest thing is having a good mindset while you're in.

>>129130474
Spell it

>>129115344
The army can never be redpilled because you work for someone the crowd votes in power and the people (usually) votes for whoever celebrities shill the most and the media shills in exchange of favors and said favors will be paid with your life, so in the end you will always risk your life for the wellbeing of the kikes.

Usa is no longer a country but a service, you are a burger flipper with overexpensive intercontinental spatula with nightvision.

Unless of course theres a coup in wich i will cream my spongebob pijamas.

>>129130422
You WANT a job/position that requires a clearance because it means when you get out you can drop right into a defense contractor job with no issues.
If you can't get one because "reasons" then the military is not for you.

>>129115344
Former USAF. Go USAF. Navy does have an appeal though. Become a SeaBee? You get to build shit while being shot at.

>>129117210
Laid back? Submariners have to be really, really mentally hard to handle that environment.

>>129130641
I didnt do anything crazy
Just smoked a ton of pot and hung around shady people all through HS
Scared of them poking around and finding that out

>>129130709
Seebs just build shitters on deployments.
I've LITERALLY shat in some of their finest works.

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>>129128677
I figure the part of the AF that runs space launches and such probably has CS coding and designing in house, collaborating with outside contractors tho

>>129115344
Joining the military is a great way to get out of paying the tuition Jew, navy is currently saving my ass from having to pay 400k in tuition for doctor school

>>129130709
thats very exaggerated, most seabees just move tractor trailers, chew tobacco, and do 3M

>>129130902
Nope. Most of it is done outside the wire.
NETWORK SECURITY is mostly handled in-house by GS and enlisted with O's running the shops.
Sauce: was IAO overseas once

>>129118510
Fuck that. I was a crypto. The jobs cake and you get land billets.

>>129118541
>.it
>canada

>>129115344
Probably OP, if you're 18. GI bill, gravy train of discounts and veterens benefits for the rest of life, build discipline before you go to college when you get out, etc.

Age 18 - 22: Military
Age 22 - 26: College with the discipline to get 4.0
Age 27: You'll have more direction and discipline than others your age and no college debt compared to them. You'll fucking be ahead.

Do it OP.

>>129115344
No

>>129131125
lol, I only met a few SeeBees or people going into it, and they way they spun it they were pretty much a step down from SEALs.

>>129130862
Dude, as long as you don't have a record you can get SEC easy.
TS/SCI w/poly is a whole 'nother world.
You CANNOT lie on the poly, period.
They asked "have you ever taken illegal drugs" and I said "yes" and they kept going with yes/no Q's.
During the interview afterwards they asked what I did and I said "smoked pot once when I was 14. Did not like it and stuck to beer."
Still got cleared.

If I join the military, do I have to live on base with the cannon-fodder mongrels? Will the military pay for my housing even if I'm single?

>>129131544
You had to do a polygraph test to get a regular security clearance...?

>>129131552
E5 in the Navy if you're single. iirc

>>129131552
Yes, you live in the barracks with the other fuckwits.
In Germany we would rent out a quonset hut once a month and throw a giant party in it and charge folks for entry and would make a bundle.
>TFW you watch Buffalo Soldiers and get homesick for the good old days in Germany

>>129129577
Well thats good, you wont be fucked for serving under 20

>>129131521
LMFAO now THAT is the most exaggerated thing I've heard, a lot of my good friends are seabees and they are some of the brightest dumbfucks I've ever met. seals are a bunch of ripped gay boys

>>129130817
Nah, I nver really thought of it that way. I wouldnt consider myself mentally tough and I survived pretty easily, and I never saw or heard of anybody flipping out over it. While underway it's just a job.

>>129131758
Some jobs require SEC, others require TS/SCI, and others require the dreaded "TS/SCI w/poly".
Poly = Polygraph
The closer your job is to 4-stars and higher and/or the P-gon the more the "poly" is tacked on.

Air Force or suicide, /pol/?

>>129131758
No. Only Ts/Ci or higher. As long as you're honest and not in debt you can get a TS clearance.

>>129131521
Dad was a SeaBee, best friend was a SEAL. I don't think they are comparable.

im in dep atm ship at end of the month as CTN, pretty excited. open to hear any advice

>>129132421
>>129132150
I didn't think they were. I was just an MM so wtf do I know anyway?

>>129132311
Oh, and if you're a "legacy" it's even easier.
If your parents held one honorably then it's even easier.
It's an unwritten "rule" they never talk about but it is true once the FBI completes it's deep-dive on you.

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>>129129686
Kid I play 40k who's going nuke with tried getting me to go Navy with him. No thanks nerd, I'll stick to my 0321.

>>129132627
station?

>>129132627
Oh yeah I was agreeing with you. Dad liked the Navy but this was in the 60s. My uncle was a Navy medic stationed with Marines. All he ever really mentioned about it was that "I swear they are animals".

>>129132921
Stennis

>>129133327
What's that like? I only did some time "guarding" armor on an MM ship before and it was laid back until we got near the cape into/out of the ME.

>>129132765
Your friend is going to hate his life.

>>129133663
MM was my rate. I worked in the engine room.

You know what is cool about the Navy? My dad grew up in the mountains without a dad (died at a sawmill) and he got to see the world and learn some useful skills. Mountain boy, goes to California, goes to Alaska, goes to Guam. Learns enough to build on and have a very successful life and career. Again though, this was in the 60s where I think they were still killing Marines at boot camp.

>>129130406
Army here, do this

>>129133791
For me MM=Merchant Marine.
It's how the Army gets their tanks and shit overseas when the Air Force gets lazy.

I was a corpsman that served for 5 years. Deployed to Afghanistan.
I say join, it's good stuff

>>129134001
Oh, I was googling what an MM ship was, I was confused lol. My shit wasn't too exciting, just shitty work down in the steam plant. MM for me is Machinist's Mate.

ET2 in 7th Fleet here... I recommend joining if you can stomach the thought of ships. Surface rates typically have it better. Don't go Nuke.

The Navy has changed my life for the better physically and mentally. I have complaints but 0 regrets.

>>129116471
This, join nukes.

You'll love it! :^)

Okay, no, seriously, don't. I can't even joke about this. Do not go nuke.

>>129134094
>"Corpseman." - Obama

So how many dead bodies did you fuck?

>>129134379
Friend of mine is going sub nuke, he's been waiting for TS clearance, lots of free time now since he is doing easy work.

Is the schooling/training the bad part or what comes his way after that?

>>129134239
>>129134379
I can't stress how much I agree with this and you don't want to go nuke. I can't stress this enough. If anyone tells you they like being a nuke, especially an MM nuke, they are a lying piece of shit trying to meme you.

>>129134659
I don't know too much about sub nukes, but probably. It also depends on his rate. It didn't look like ETs have a bad deal, but EMs and MMs got shit on pretty fucking hard.
>first on the ship, last off
>incredibly absurd work load
>worst watch schedules, sometimes 6&6 for months (that's six on and six off, this doesn't include drills, work, studying)
>constant propulsion plant drills
>no sleep
>above 100F temps
>worst COC

>>129134659
Both can be a grind. I don't like school, so this was the worst part for me.

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>>129134379
Too Late ;)
In all seriousness I knew what I was signing up for and thought the challenge makes it valuable. Surviving a challenging program with pretty good financial reward and the stress of a fast attack sub? This program makes men out of nerds. Or maybe just cynical zombies. Either way, I'm gonna get some tours under my belt and be pretty rich afterward. The drop outs are people who didn't know what they were getting into, immature, or brainlets.

>>129135488
The military makes men out of nerds and then turns them into sociopaths with non-stop deployments.
And I'd do it all over again the same way in a heartbeat.

>>129134659
Your friend is in for some of the shittiest moments of his life. Life as a submariner is already strenuous and bleak. Work 12 hours, 6 hours off, work 12 hours, 6 off, work 12 hours, 6 hours off, and it goes for months and months without end in a red lit coffin. No outside communication either.

As a Sub Nuke though... fuck I would personally not be able to handle it and may just end it by blowing my brains out in the armory

>>129134659
After basic, you spend 8-9 months in accelerated training. Then 6 on an old nuke boat tied to a pier - you do not get to go anywhere during this time.

You get deployed, guess what? You're on a sub or a carrier. If sub, you don't get to see sunlight until your tour is up. And all those ports of call that the carriers go to where everybody gets off and boozes it up and whores around? Yeah, you don't do that, you're on reactor watch or training, in fact no matter where you go, you're doing training during any of your 'free' time. You get almost zero shoretime no matter what ship you're on.

Oh, well I only have to rough it for my term of service and then I'm guaranteed big bux in the civilian market, just like my recruiter said! Yeah, you can work at.. All those nuclear power plants being built in the US - while simultaneously competing with every other person that got tricked into going Nuke and every college grad.

Never believe your recruiter, they get upwards of a 250% bonus for signing people up for the nuke program because it has a minuscule reenlistment rate.

>>129135488
You poor, poor soul.

>>129135488
Better than a carrier, everyone on the ship hated nukes because they thought they were down in the plant dicking off and not doing anything. But the rest of the ship is fucking retarded and believed that potable water and steam were brought on by barrels doing RAS. Yes, fucking steam. They actually believed that steam was brought by barrel onto the ship. The nukes played a prank on the airdales by going into their berthing and rolling marbles painted with glowstick juice and started yelling "everyone out everyone get the fuck out it's a neutron spill". Scared ass skittles scrambling away from glowing orbs rolling around on the deck.

>>129136189
>minuscule reenlistment rate
Sometimes that works out in your favor though.
Unless it's a Dem Pres/Congress reducing the size of the military and then you're fucked.
I went from E1 to E4 in 1.5 years in combat arms.

>>129135966
sooo you have to change to an 18 hour day? sounds shitty.

>>129135211
Anyone reading this keep in mind there is a monumental difference between Nuclear ETs, MMs, and EMs(etn mmn and emn) and the standard surface equivalent.

As a Surface ET my job is almost uncomparable to that of an ETN

>>129136490
Oh, you're almost guaranteed to reach warrant officer at a minimum before you're out when it comes to nukes. They've been going out of their way to try and keep people. The issue is that no matter what's happening, its considered a critical position, so you've got the longest hours and you are literally the bottom of the list when it comes to shore leave.

>>129115344
Go intel. Best intelligence force in the world.

>>129136734
isnt that only if u star reenlist? last cycle nuke rates to e5 were around 5%..

>>129136410
We convinced a nigger coner that since he came back to engineering for quals that he was now contaminated. Sent him to the con in full anti-C canary suit.

>>129122919
CTISN here this petty officer is 100% correct. All individuals who do not exhibit superior fitness must pt 3 x a week.

>>129136734
Ouch.
But I was lucky and had folks looking out for me since I was "IT nerd" for the division.
I was ground-guiding a tank from the washrack to the motorpool when a CPT met me at the motorpool gate and handed me an OPORD with my name in it and wound up going back into the box for a "computer simulated exercise" aka "back in the field for two more weeks".
My tank crew hated me, thought I was getting out of cleaning the tank.
Fuck them and the beers they drank that night while I didn't have one for another two weeks.
Towards my "re-up or ETS" date the DIV G6 looked at me and said "I don't need a CPL Anon, I need a Mr. Anon. I gotta 11/12 slot for you if you can just get the fuck out already."
And that's what I did.

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>>129116471
>>129116715
Are you telling me I can work for the military doing math?

>>129136410
>everyone on the ship hated nukes because they thought they were down in the plant dicking off and not doing anything.
This is incomprehensible to me. Do they not understand they sleep next to a nuclear power plant and you're the only thing keeping them safe?

>>129137568
Mob mentality of "everyone else fucks off while I have to work".
You see some of it in combat arms but when you're side-by-side with your CO filling sandbags on deployment that mentality disappears.

>>129137568
No. They honestly believed that nukes were down there just raking in cash being nerdy and sitting on their asses. I was a conventional that worked in Reactor, but I was on a carrier. So I don't know how things work on a sub. Smaller crew, so I'd imagine that everyone knows everyone. On a carrier, the crew was so large I didn't know anyone outside of Reactor, I barely knew everyone INSIDE Reactor. I mainly hung out with all the MMs. Nuke MMs and conventional MMs stuck together, there really wasn't any sense of elitism. We did the same job, they just went to extra school, so they got paid more. Granted, they knew a lot more than me.

>>129137340
Yes

>>129138598
How? Is there a URL you could provide.

>>129134584
so many that I lost count

>>129115344
>navy
i heard americunt seamen have some interesting parties in Naples, Italy.

>>129135488
The nuke program is no joke. You pretty much have to be mentally ill going in, just to pass.

>>129139456
How badly are our Marines fucking-up you Ausfags over there?

>>129139600
The way one nuke described it to me is it's like someone opening a fire hydrant and spraying it directly into your face and you have to try and swallow as much knowledge as you can. I just worked in the plant with them which was shitty enough. Some of the weaker guys, both nuke and conventional would spaz out and try to figure out any way they could to get out. One nuke e5 was taking his food tray to drop off, and saw an admiral doing a tour or something, and decided to drop his tray right there on the deck, collapse to his knees and hug this admiral around the legs saying he loved him. Never saw that guy again kek.

>>129140219
Sounds as if, like so much else in this country today, standards have been lowered to the point that certain people who should have been weeded out are now given a pass. Our problem in the '80's was the overly booksmart ones who didn't know which end of a screwdriver to use.

>>129137340
What the fuck did you think the Cold War was about?

>>129141486
War weeds those folks out FAST in combat arms.
They get dead most quick.

>>129115344

Army here and im telling you join the airforce. We talk shit but they get the best gear, pay and missions. You want a good future, join the chairforce.

>>129116471
Met some of the people in the navies nuke training they hated it and wouldn't stop complaining... it they were giant pussies so take it or leave it

>>129140219
A lot of those guys that wash out, end up going "koo-koo for coco puffs"
I worked with a couple 'ex-nukes' on my last boat.
One dude was former EM(n), who lost his clearance after getting shitfaced, and they bounced him to the "normal navy"
This guy had weird facial ticks, always made step back from him.

>>129142082
With one caveat that my grandad passed along to me when he heard I was going to Germany.
"Don't fuck any American girls over there. They're worn out."
Keep it in your pants and don't give them any "he raped/harassed me" ammo.

>>129115344
>Would joining the Navy be a good idea?

It's the smartest choice among the branches in the current climate. It's the only branch right now that's actually doing their job in mass.

>military experience

Not really

>maritime experience

yes

>What would be a good MOS for the navy btw?

Doesn't matter they'll put you where they want you to be.

Above all avoid submarines.

>>129124770
Don't forget medical and legal

>>129126884
Pretty true I'll have 10% for my lungs and I'm getting a test for sleep apnea soon which is like another 30-50% which I'll get unless they can just take out my tonsils or some shit. Not to mention my right knee and lower back and probably my neck from that time I flew up 2 feet and hit the ceiling of the vehicle I was in. (With helmet on)

>>129115344
There is no redpilled part of the military.

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>>129136410
>Neutron spill

Im 26 and thinking of joining the marines or airforce. Am i to old for this shit? I got nothing else going on.

>>129115344
>>129116471
>>129116715
>>129117210

Never go nuke. My goodness the stress, the food being crap. I heard one anon say he gets anal prolapse whenever he takes a poo in loo nowadays. He blames it on the food. But he said that nukes have a terrible and moreover miserable job. God bless the nukes, but I've heard too many complaints. Though the pay isn't bad.

>>129128925
>>129129327
>telecommunications and IT systems
im interested in that, go airforce?

>>129139600
What happens if a nuke ensign fails?

>>129142318
Smart gramps

Bro, if you join the Navy, prepare your liver. All we ever did for the 6 years I was in was drink. All day, every day.

>>129152701
I was a Nuke, we call them "Nuclear Waste", and they get sent to another school, usually Cryptechs or something technical.

tfw want to join the navy but our navy is shit and our submarines don't even work

at least we're getting some new war ships thanks to the bro-tier sikh

>>129153316
Kek damn thats harsh haha

>>129115344
>being this much of a faggot

can't face the enemy, hunh? navy fags are the worst

>>129119661
Navy doesn't have mos you stupid faggot

The navy has rates

>>129154329
>shelling the enemy from 100s of miles away means you lose
you win the honorary leaf award

>>129116471
I know one person that did nuclear power school and he is the saddest faggot I know

>>129154329
>landlocked
>talking shit about navy

>currently serving as an ATO on Super Hornets
>always discover these kinds of threads hours after I could contribute to them

>>129115344
Everyone knows the navy are fags, the marines are a cult, the army is a bunch of whiny bitches, the air force is the chair force and the coast gaurd doesnt count

>>129116715
corpsman and go greenside, otherwise fuck off m8

>>129125766
>yes goy stay at home and don't get a job, let tyrone get all the white women

>>129118098
Why? Because some girl out there is twice the man you are? Lol

>tfw want to sail the seas
>tfw don't mind doing work as long as I have my m8's
>tfw don't want the obligations of the Navy (though I absolutely admire the utter engineering marvel of Naval warships and carriers and such

Is my only other option cargo ships? Not that I mind cargo ships...

>>129115344
the navy is only worth joining when it becomes a space navy

>>129115344
Thank you for your service OP!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/20/sickened-by-service-more-us-sailors-claim-cancer-from-helping-at-fukushima.html

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>be me 19
>been out of highschool for a year doing jobs around town: pizza, ref, lifeguard
>too lazy to apply for college even though sat and act were decent
>go to air force recruiter
>couple meetings in I give her copies of my sat and act scores
>she really wants me to take the asvab and apply to the air force academy
>lowest score is mechanical with 96
>general and admin 99
>average score 98
>2140/2400 sat
>33 act
>must be a big deal for a recruiter to successfully send someone to the afa
>tell her im going to enlist
>tell her im going into security forces
>herfacewhen.jpg
done with my 6 years now going to college to be a veterinarian
feels good man

>>129115344
If you're lucky you'll get a feminist woman captain that makes your life a living hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Graf

>>129165081
also
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7437034/US-Navy-crews-mutiny-against-the-Sea-Witch-captain-who--belittled-them.html

Join the Navy if you are looking for these things...

>job experience that goes into the real world
>fantastic travelling'
>school

Do not join the Navy if you are...

>looking to be boots on ground hard ass (unless you see SEALs which you will fail out of more than likely)
>want to stay in one spot
>don't like the ocean

I don't know it's all pretty basic shit once you learn most of it. I myself got to come live in Japan and that's exactly where I wanted to be. So not everything is bad but not everything is good. I was able to core one of the top five best rates in the Navy which is LS (logistics specialist)

>>129165938
Oh also to add to my post, the Navy is anything but red pilled. The amount of liberals and lack of physical standards and overall people of the Navy is terrible. The amount of tasteless and unprofessional people in the Navy is incredible. Mostly O-3 and above and retired personnel still working for DoD are the red pilled/class people. My generation of Navy persons is disgusting. The moment I see them out of NDUB's makes me fucking mad. When you see these people it's the entire reason us lower ranks have bullshit rules.

What are the chances of becoming a jet pilot, or a pilot at all in the Air Force? Is it worth it?

>>129115344

It is the LEAST redpilled of all of the US's armed forces. Join the Coast Guard instead, they're the unsung heroes of the branches.

>>129167054
Incredibly slim, 1% of the entire AF are pilots and and an even smaller percentage are fighter pilots. Even then, fighter pilots are required to have a STEM degree from a prestigious school.