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What's the U.S. equivalent of these two?
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Bernie Sanders and Carly Fiorina?
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>>129104496
Sanders and Clinton
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>>129104496
Harry Truman and Bernie Sanders
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>>129104736
dis
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>>129104736
this is what I was thinking, wanted to make sure
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>>129104496
Corbyn = Sanders
May = Something between Hillary and Trump
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>>129104736

This, dark times.
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>>129104496
there is no equivalent of corbyn. Sanders whole point was to be a fluffer for hillary.

May is roughly a rubio style cuck. Maybe even a obama style cucked whose hand was forced to BREXIT
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>>129104736
What the fuck? Are you memeing, or is this actually the case?
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>>129104736
This
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>>129104880
May is 95% Clinton.

The main difference is that May has never said "vote for me cus muh bagina", but in terms of policies they are pretty much identical.
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>>129105304
>socialist vs neocon

pretty much
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>>129105304
Its true but the media here hates Corbyn much more then they hate sanders, probably because sanders is really good at insulting the media
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>>129104496
Sanders and Susan Collins (R-Maine)
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>>129104496
Theresa May doesn't actually have an opinions on anything, she changes like the wind so in that mind she's the equivalent of Trump.

Corbyn is a more left-wing Bernie Sanders, who hates the EU/NATO and supports Assad and Putin.
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>>129105304
Corbyn is like a counter-semitic Sanders, if you can imagine such a thing.

May is a Hillary with the SJW identity politics dialled down quite a bit.
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>>129104496
Comrade Corbyn is Bernie
Theresa May is like George W. Bush (cuckservative party mouthpiece)
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>>129104496
Bernie and some generic cuckservative
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>>129104496
Bernie and Hillary
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>>129106086
Is British Bernie going to win? Please tell me no.
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>>129107966
nah. exit polls said Tories was just off the majority however exit polls been completely wrong.
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>>129104496

Bernie Sanders and John McCain.
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>>129105304
This is actually the case.
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>>129104496
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
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>>129108190
Thanks, mate...cheers
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>>129104496
Clontin and Jeb Bush
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>>129104496
Bernie Sanders vs. Dick Cheney
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Burger King and Wendy's
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>>129108190
What are the Tories stance on the Muslim problem?
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Bernie vs. Romney
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>>129104736
Yet people want May to win.

/pol/tards disgust me desu.
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>>129104736

ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT

MAY IS LITERALLY NOTHING LIKE CLINTON

CLINTON IS A DEMOCRAT, AND MAY IS A FUCKING CONSERVATIVE

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

May is more like Elaine Chao, or Condoleezza Rice. Unfortunately I don't know any other Republican women. But she would be like one of them.
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>>129113421
>Clinton is considered liberal in America and May is considered conservative in the UK so they're nothing alike.
autist
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>>129113877
They are completely fucking different and if you can't see that you're a fucking moron

Clinton is a progressive. May is the FURTHEST FUCKING THING FROM A PROGRESSIVE EVER.

Here's a picture of Elaine Chao, I don't really know much about her (or anything), but she's Republican, so she's the closest analogue to Theresa May I can think of (because I don't know any other Republican women really)
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>>129115250
What's not progressive about May, anon

She's in favour of multiculturalism and diversity, believes we NEED mass immigration for the economy, and actively condemns the "far right"

I'm really not seeing many differences here
She's just another socially liberal, fiscally conservative establishment tool
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>>129115250
political illiteracy right here, no wonder corbyn is succeeding
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>>129104496
Corbyn is Bernie Sanders and May is John McCain

May could also be one of the Bushes.
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>>129116141
>>129117251

SHE'S A FUCKING CONSERVATIVE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS AND CLINTON IS A FUCKING DEMOCRAT

SHUT THE FUCK UP

YOU JUST PICK THIS FUCKING CONTRARIAN BULLSHIT POSITION AND HAVE ZERO FUCKING ARGUMENT TO SUPPORT IT

FUCK OFF
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>>129118085
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>>129115250
Clinton is a neo-liberal/neo-conservative. Clinton is not a progressive. She just pandered to them last year for votes. Clinton was against gay marriage until just the last couple of years. And she's always been a warmonger. May is not a conservative by American standards. She'd be considered a neo-liberal at best.
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Why didn't he save them?
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>>129118387

centralist democrats=/=centralist conservatives

plus May wants to bring down net migration
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>>129119402
She's had a year as PM to do that, and several as home sec, with her party having made the exact same promise, and hasn't done shit.

She's just pandering to voters by saying that, and will toss it out with nothing more than a flimsy excuse the moment she gets elected
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>>129118604

this
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>>129118604
Clinton definitely is a progressive. Always banging on about racial equality and gender equality and all that shit.

There is no way on Earth, in a million years, that May would ever hold a victory event in a glass venue as a visual metaphor for smashing the glass ceiling. No chance at all.

May wants to be tougher on immigration, tough on crime, tough on the internet, tough on terrorism. She doesn't really care about young people, she's a very reserved old person really. Very, very, very different to Clinton.

Also of course May has shown in this election that she's willing to reject free market policies, and actually be a bit more collectivist and almost socialist economically. Which is different to Clinton.

They're just completely different. May is equivalent to an old, traditional, reserved Republican woman in your country. The only person I know who fits that description is Elaine Chao - if you know any other examples please say.
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Corbyn is Bernie, May is Hillary.

But Nigel is Donald.
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>>129124156
May is not Hillary, she is nothing like Hillary in any way whatsoever. May is not a progressive. And she's clearly not a ruthless free market person either.

She's a conservative. A social conservative, and an economic nationalist. A member of the right-wing party. Clinton is a social progressive, a free marketer, and a member of the left-wing party. Completely different.

Just look at the people who voted for them! All the progressives voted for Hillary - all the progressives in Britain voted AGAINST Theresa May.

I agree with Corbyn being Bernie though, of course - they're almost exactly the same.
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>>129104736
>>129108845
Press S to spit on the grave of European democracy.
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>>129123943
>May wants to be tougher on immigration, tough on crime, tough on the internet, tough on terrorism.
Literally Clinton, except now it's politically incorrect to be against immigration so she has dropped that.
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>>129118085
they are both neo liberal shill the only reasons why corbyn was against brexit is that back he was pretty much unelectable and he knew that brexit with the tories would be shit.
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>>129104496
Who are we hoping wins?
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>>129124656
Jesus christ, are all poltards this fucking stupid
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>>129125729
Absolute bullshit because Clinton is all about standing up for illegals. May isn't. Has Clinton ever said "American jobs for American people?" Has she ever proposed that companies publish lists of how many foreign workers they have? Has she ever proposed an increase of a financial penalty on companies that hire foreign workers over American workers? Maybe she has, but I don't think she has.

>>129126049
May is the furthest fucking thing from a neoliberal, she's a one-nation conservative, but whatever, distort the facts if you want.
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(((LIZARD BLOOD)))
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>>129126399
Tory

>>129126763
All the retarded polack morons think that the left-wing neoliberal Clinton is exactly the same as the right-wing one-nation conservative May, just because they're both to the left of Adolf Hitler.
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>>129106086
how are Corbyn's identity politics? Will he ban Muslims if they/you keep blowing up? does he think traps are gay?
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>>129127308
That's why I said she dropped her old immigration stance so she could appeal to what is "popular" now.
Get fucked, ignorant newfag.

>>129126763
Yes, yes they are.
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>>129118085
You believe the Conservatives are actually conservative so I think that says it all about your political knowledge
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>>129113421
"Democrat" and "Republican" are vague titles meant to create the illusion of choice, a false dichotomy. Democrats are still right-wing, just slightly to the left of Republicans. Even Bernie Sanders is just center-left. The only real leftist in the election was Jill Stein.
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>>129105304
>Corbyn wants UK to go full USSR
>May ignores warning signs and lets terrorist attacks happen so she can push even further government regulations on basic rights
Pretty much, thank fucking Christ I don't live in the UK
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>>129112443
There is no problem to them.
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>>129104736
+1'd
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>>129129506
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>>129104736

came here to say this
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>>129127948
>how are Corbyn's identity politics? Will he ban Muslims if they/you keep blowing up?

No, he will triple the numbers, for example, if it comes to the point where 20% of muslims in the UK are radical, he will import 3-5 million more so that the percentage as a whole goes down to lets say 10%.
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>>129104736
Pretty much this, yes.
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Chris Burke and Niki Haley
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>>129128148
>ONCE UPON A TIME, SHE WAS THE SAME AS MAY ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE!
What a great "argument" you fucking moron

>>129128444
>>129128537
Oh look it's the same old vapid, baseless /pol/ack "arguments", what a surprise. I've said multiple times why this narrative is bullshit but whatever, keep screaming in your echo chamber if you like.
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>>129108190
>the city of UKIP
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>>129104736
Sounds about right. You could pretty much pluck any groomed neocon Republican too for May, be it Jeb! or Little Marco.
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>>129106637
Absolute bollocks. Firstly Clinton and May are political opposites.

Secondly Chuka Umunna is the British equivalent of Obama.
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>>129130397
>Has Clinton ever said "American jobs for American people?" Has she ever proposed that companies publish lists of how many foreign workers they have? Has she ever proposed an increase of a financial penalty on companies that hire foreign workers over American workers? Maybe she has, but I don't think she has.
Classic goal post moving, newfag.
Hillary was vilified on 4chan for years for being pro-censorship of the Internet, film, tv, video games, etc.
She has historically been tough on crime, even specifically targeting black areas.
She is constantly described as "Hawkish" in foreign affairs and military engagements.
Supported mandatory minimum sentencing(along with Bill).
Supported the Bush-era Border Fence.
Hillary has a muslim killcount that May could never dream of achieving.
There is a very clear reason so many people describe Hillary as Center-Right.
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>>129132077
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>>129104496
Trump and Hilary
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>>129104755
That's not bad at all.
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I don't know. Ted Cruz mixed with Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders?
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>>129131563
Clinton and Jeb or marco wouldn't be all that different
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>>129123943

> May wants to be tougher on immigration

As others have said, May only panders about this but essentially does nothing. Plus, the Clintons were tough on immigration in the 90s and early 2000s.

> tough on crime

Hillary had the Suprepredators comment and again was all for this kind of policy in the 80, 90s, and 2000s.

> tough on the internet

Just watch the Trump and Hillary debates. Hillary has mentioned many times she wants to regulate the Internet. Hell, even after she lost she gave a speech about this issue and regulating "fake news".

> tough on terrorism

Hillary is a warmonger. One of these most hawkish politicians right now. I don't think she gives an actual shit about stopping ISIS or anything but she certainly supports any military interventions in the name of "combating" terrorism.

> Also of course May has shown in this election that she's willing to reject free market policies, and actually be a bit more collectivist and almost socialist economically. Which is different to Clinton.

Uhhh what? Clinton is very much for expansion of the regulatory state. She loves the alphabet soup agencies the US has as did Obama. Clinton is very anti-free market and pro-globalism and coincidentally May supported Remain as Clinton would have if she was a UK politician. The parallels are clear here Anon.


Anon I think you are just confusing the type of pandering May and Clinton have to do for their respective bases with what they actually do in policy. In terms of pandering, yes Hillary has to appeal to a much different crowd than May does but pay attention to Hillary's own words where she says she has a public face and private face. Her private politics are that of the Establishment center-left to center-right. She herself has said this in the Goldman Sachs transcripts. She occupies a much similar position to May when you look at the policies though their public faces may be a bit different.
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>>129132079
As a character she's completely different from May - May is a meek, reserved individual, the daughter of a vicar. Hillary is a shameless self-publicist and ladder-climber. Very, very different individuals.

And you keep describing old positions, which has no relevance to today - in the 2016 election, Hillary was THE EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE to what May was, QUITE LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE POLICIES, THE OPPOSITE POLITICS, THE OPPOSITE VOTER BASE, THE OPPOSITE IN EVERY SINGLE CONCEIVABLE WAY, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>129116141
>socially liberal

are you trolling my friend?
: ^ )
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>>129104496
The Del-i mean Leadership, Theresa. Hand it over, only i can be the true constitutional monarchist.
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>>129134012
See:

>>129133990
>>129133561
>>129131563
>>129130326
>>129129897
>>129129624

You are just fucking wrong, newfag.
Get over it.
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>>129104496
Anti-Semitic Sanders vs Less Charismatic Clinton
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Corbyn is like an Anti-Semite Sanders.

May is the bastard spawn of Jeb and Hillary, with a touch of Merkel.
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>>129133990
>>129134291
>butthurt neo-nazis get butthurt that their ridiculous narrative that a conservative politician is the same as a democrat politician is getting shown up for utter hogwash

Fucking idiots, like always. You fucking utter idiots. They're complete fucking political opposites.

Hillary campaign 2016:
>gender equality
>racial equality
>progressivism
>love not hate
>love trumps hate
>amnesty to immigrants
>accepting to muslims
>lovey duvvy left-wing

May campaign 2017:
>british jobs for british workers
>punish british companies for hiring foreign workers
>social conservatism
>tougher on immigration
>tougher on crime
>tougher on terrorism
>sensibleness, not "love"
>end freedom of movement
>shut out migrants apart from skilled ones
>sensible, hard-headed, hard-nosed conservatism

They're literally fucking polar opposites.

You keep bringing up positions that Hillary held TEN YEARS AGO OR MORE as if that has any relevance to today. HAHAHAHA. How pathetic - you clearly have zero fucking argument and are getting desperate. Fuck off and go masturbate over Hitler like you alt-reich cunts always do.
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>>129123943
actually a bit more collectivist and almost socialist economically"

do you mean in comparison to clinton or do you actually think that May is borrowing from the left in terms of economic policy?
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>>129135244
you're privileging hillary's marketing over her track record.
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>>129105526
So 2008 Hillary?
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>>129104496
Who cares? Europe is fucking done.
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>>129104496
got it
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>>129104496
nader and jebra
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May is Clinton.

Corbyn is OUR TRUMP.

THEY DO NOT WANT HIM TO WIN.

DEATH TO THE MSM.

JEREMY IS THE ONLY HONEST MAN IN THE ROOM.
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>>129135723
"Europe is fucking done"

Whatever man..

Like dude.

Chill out.

Allah is Kosher.
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>>129135244
Here's the facts of the situation Anon.
We are pointing to things Clinton has actually done.
Indisputable evidence of actual political positions she has carried out in her career.
Not her words, not her promises.
Her actions.
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>>129105304
INVADE US
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>>129135723
>Europe is fucking done

Says increasingly nervous inbred for the 12th time
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>>129135244
M8 May is a neo-con shill, you can't trust a word of that manifesto.

Corbyn is the only honest man in the room.
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>>129136184
Theres no such thing as an honest communist.
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>>129136640

You cooked that turkey good.
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>>129135723
now is not the time for fear, that comes later
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>>129104496
Hillery Clinton and Bernie Sanders
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So what's Corbyn's on pissful religion and cultural enrichment?
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>>129136792
...sigh

The labour party has ideological roots in marxism.
The labour movement in Britain is essentially a socialist entity. New labour was what Margret Thatcher called "Her greatest success" As it was a shit-show of Blairites - pretty much Clinton's political counter-parts.

Long story shorty - Corbyn is a principled socialist - who will fight for the working-class of my country, He has pulled the party back to it's roots - the Tories led by may are interchangeable clones they don't give a fuck about MY country. It's just a meal ticket to them. Jeremy actually wants a nation worth having.
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No US equivalent. Even fucking Bernie was nowhere near this. He is a confirmed Marxist who idolises genocide and even calls his policies a manifesto.

>>129136024
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>>129113421
Lmfao what a cucked retard
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>>129137930
Don't all political parties have a manifesto?
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>>129137930

Fucking Kangeroo...

Talking big..
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>>129135368
>do you mean in comparison to clinton or do you actually think that May is borrowing from the left in terms of economic policy?
May definitely borrowed from the economic left in this election, wanting to tax people's wealth to pay for their social care. And also all her messages on migration, and holding business to account, instead of promoting completely free trade.

>>129136184
May is not Clinton whatsoever

>>129136445
You're pointing out irrelevant positions that Clinton DID NOT HOLD DURING HER ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

>>129136707
Faggot
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>>129104736
Pretty much
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>>129138149
The Auzzie is making a subtle reference to "The Communist manifesto" By Marx and Engles...

Very witty...
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>>129115250
May is much more progressive than Clinton will ever be
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>>129138316

"Faggot"

Classic political analysis from a UKIP voter.
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>>129113421
>Democrats
>Not conservative
lol fag
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>>129138316
She is an analog of Clinton.
I.e a membr of the establishment.
Corbyn is a maverick outsider.

Keep your fucking hair on pal.
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>>129138510
I didn't know if he was being witty or retarded.
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>>129138571
Save yourself Ausbro, it ain't worth it
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Which one will double fist muslims up England's ass faster?
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>>129123943
Theresa may is a far left nutcase and had fear in her eyes as she reacted to the Manchester bombing where dozens of English school girls had nails forced into their faces before being gangraped in the back of a taxi.
She is a woman and unfit to lead.
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>>129137640
>Corbychev
>moar apefricans
>moar mohammedans
>nation worth having
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>>129138012
Literally not an argument

>>129138571
Clinton's campaign message was "love trumps hate"
May's was "strong and stable"
Very different outlooks

May is like a quiet Republican woman, and Elaine Chao is the only example I can think of, but I would welcome more suggestions - I don't know many Republican women.

>>129138679
Tory voter

>>129138936
The point is that Clinton is not a good comparison to May - their campaigns are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

All those millennial women who voted for Hillary? All those millennial nu-males that voted for Hillary? Yeah, they all voted AGAINST May, STRONGLY. That's why they're polar opposites.

You're American, you must be able to name some Republican women? Elaine Chao is the best example I can think of. I wouldn't say Condoleezza Rice I guess, or Sarah Palin. May's a different character to those. Older, meeker, that sort of thing.

>>129138943
May is a vicar's daughter, not from a wealthy, establishment background whatsoever.

Corbyn is a twat, a lifelong left-wing weirdo, just like Sanders.

>>129139425
>may is a far-left nutcase
This is why there's no point talking to /pol/, all of you weirdos think that anybody to the left of Hitler is "far-left"
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>>129113421

Wow... So this is your brain on Reddit...
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>>129118085
Screaming insults at people isn't an argument. You are the one who has no argument, not us. Prove to us that May isn't Clinton with less SJW/minority pandering.
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>>129113421

> post-ironic meta-subliminal posting

Good one, Nige
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>>129140203
>>129140293
I've stated my argument multiple times, it's right here: >>129135244
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>>129113421
>>129115250

>Elaine Chao
oh thanks that tells me everything. I know exactly what you're takling about.
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>>129140830
Yes campaign slogans created by the DNC totally negate her track record of being a neocon.
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>>129140830
and you already got btfo
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>>129104496
Hillary and Sanders
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May = Paul Ryan
Corbyn = Jill Stein
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>>129135244
Did you even read the Tory manifesto? It has a section on GENDER PAY GAP and ETHNIC PAY GAP

May has moved closer to the centre, not to the right.
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>>129140857
I'm sure there are many other suitable comparisons among the Republicans, I just don't know the Republican Party that well

>>129141142
May isn't a neocon though, she's socially conservative and an economic nationalist.

>>129141642
There we go. Finally someone who isn't a fucking idiot.

>>129141280
I've comprehensively BTFO every pathetic "argument" that's been put to me, because they all claim that positions Clinton might have held 10 years ago are relevant to the campaign she led just last year; and even if they are, they are still NOT the same as what May stands for, not by a long shot!

>>129141839
That's because they have to put that shit - the Republicans claim to tackle those issues too.

And that's false, she's more economically centrist yes, but more socially to the right, especially compared to Cameron.
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>>129142665
go to bed mate
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