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/Pol/ : David Lynch or Stanley Kubrick ?
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I'm a big fan of both their works, but as an artist I'd say Lynch is superior.

Kubrick is a master of film, but Lynch is the master of Kino.
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>>129096482
Kubrick is Michelangelo, Lynch is Dali. Kubrick said Eraserhead is his favorite movie.
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>>129096482
Kubrick all the way
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i've only seen one kubrick flick and havent seen any lynch flicks baka
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>>129096482
Kubrick.
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free Kubrick kino

mega:#F!SIt2CCIS!kQtz9xNBKUirZBnzrDCJew
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>>129097005
Very nicely said. Is it OC?
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>>129097398
>mega:#F!SIt2CCIS!kQtz9xNBKUirZBnzrDCJew
You have my thanks.
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>>129096482
Kubrick obviously, what kind of question is this. Was redpilled too.
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kubrick. kubrick's stuff has substance, lynch is all style
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>>129096482
Lynch, although Kubrick is great too. New Twin Peaks is the best thing on television.
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>>129096482
The new Twin Peaks is the best thing on tv in years.
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Lynch is a hack and his selling point is being weird.
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>>129097398
>:#F!SIt2CCIS!kQtz9xNBKUirZBnzrDCJew
>Jew
>link stolen from reddit
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I have not seen enough of their works to decide who is better. But I did just finish watching the first two seasons of twin peaks and its in my top 3 favorite shows of all time now. Really incredible how well a 27 year old show held up.
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>>129096482
Bela Tarr destroys your favorite lying shit films.
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>>129098128
only the start is good though. it rapidly devolves
>letting your work be butchered
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>>129096482

Really? Is that a question? Lynch is far ahead of Kubrick. Maybe not at a technical-autist level, but as an artist, Lynch eats his cherry cake and drinks KubrickĀ“s damn good coffee.
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>>129098128
The almost-parodic cheesiness of Twin Peaks means it will forever be a timeless show.

Season 2 has a lot of rough patches though
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Kubrick, a clockwork orange is a punk/classical masterpiece, never has deplorable actions and a hateful protagonist portrayed so artfully and nuanced.
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>>129097005
I thought Kubrick's favorite film was The Jerk.
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>>129098399
Barry Lyndon is better than anything Lynch made imo
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>>129096482
Lynch is garbage
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>>129098727
He had a list of several favourites. Among them are Eraserhead, The Jerk, Treasure of the Sierra Madre and White Men Can't Jump.
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>>129098128
Tried watching episode one, slow as molasses, and the cinematography amd staging didn't stand out. But that intro is one of the greatest intros to anything.
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>>129097742
This is the only correct answer
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>>129098624
>never has deplorable actions and a hateful protagonist portrayed so artfully and nuanced
You could argue Scorsese did an equally good job in Taxi Driver
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>>129098421
You can skip everything after the episode where they reveal Laura's killer and go straight to the final episode. The only interesting story line after is with Windom Earle, and thats barely worth sitting through James' cross country adventures and Ben Horne:Civil War.
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one represents reality through a cold vitreous lens,the other one represents it with an alienating and unexpeted tone.
can't compare properly
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>>129098128
>27 year old
dolot thos roght focking now
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>>129096482
Kubrick had a wider range, all of Lynch work can be ressumed on "and then weird shit happened".
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>>129096482

Eyes Wide Shut is the best film ever made, followed by Full Metal Jacket, which used to be my favorite film, as well as the reigning best and most realistic war movie ever made, according to the other veterans in my office.
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What is Kino, aside from being "cinema" in german?
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>>129099019
Lynch work is Allan bout slowliness in action. You have to look deeper to see the wilderness of its characters and histories.
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>>129099064
Bickle isn't despicable or hateful like Alex.
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>>129099064
I take that back, because Travis was a kind of a deluded hero, not just pure predatory evil.
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>>129099064
scorcese is a hack who didn't have the balls to make the gangsters niggers like they were originally
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>>129099064
but the taxi driver was just disturbed, he believed what he was doing was right. he wasn't the same sort of character
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>>129096482
Both excellent directors. They're among my favorites.
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>>129099292
Doesn't Lyncg go full freud?
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>>129096482
I like the way Lynch creates scenes, but I like the plots Kubrik worked with better. In other words, Lynch's style, Kubrick's substance.
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>>129096482
Peter Jackson.
He created 6 movies and never cast a single black for any non makeup rolls
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>>129099098
>vitreous
cool word
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Kubrick was more redpilled than 99.99% of /pol/ could ever hope to be, and it probably killed him.
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>>129098421
Yeah season 2 should have had half the episodes. But the characters were so great that I kept watching, Leo and Windam brought it back for me in the last few episodes.
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>>129096482
Kubrick, because I've never seen a Lynch film and Kubrick is redpilled as fuck anyway.
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>>129099540
You won't find many nogs in Lynch or Kubrick movies either. The only character that pops in my head is the voodoo caretaker in The Shining.
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>>129099595
The ultimate redpilled man was a jew, wew.
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>>129096482
Kubrick. Lynch was utter shit, the only good thing in his filmography is The Elephant Man.
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>>129096482
>arguing over the cinematic jew
BTW France, are you cucks still protecting that pedo-turbo-kike Polanski?
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>>129100426
Yeah....he was actually. Also was quoted as saying "Hitler was right about almost everything."
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>>129100426
takes one to know one, if you catch my drift
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Both are great. Flip a coin. The Elephant Man is the only movie that has reduced me to a bubbling puddle of angry tears at humanity. And the first season of Twin Peaks is some of the best TV ever. But 2001 might be one of the 10 greatest films ever.
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>>129100592
He was banned from the last Ceremony Of Oscars i believe. A fuckin (((Monster))).
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not enough mentions of paths of glory ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0yVoxUQ7Q8

>>129100426
kubrick was a great man who was "redpilled" in a genuine sense (unlike most people here) regardless of being a jew
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>>129098754

Well, as you say, anon, this really is a matter of opinions. Barry Lyndon is a masterpiece, no doubt, but give me Lost Highway or The Straight Story or Wild at Heart alongside Lyndon on any given day and I would choose Lynch.
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>>129100996
fuck,it's true,paths of glory is a masterpiece
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>>129100703
>>129100771
Wow, hard to swallow, but I had already heard some shit like that. I really enjoy his films, they are the most beautiful films I have ever seen. "The Killing" was really aesthetic.
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How has no one said this yet?

>Frederic Raphael, who co-authored the Eyes Wide Shut script with Kubrick, recalled that the director once remarked that "Hitler was right about almost everything", and insisted that any trace of Jewishness be expunged from the Eyes Wide Shut script. Kubrick's bizarre relationship to his own ethnicity deeply troubled Raphael, a fellow Jew.

Kubrick was a voracious reader, more than almost any human on earth. In addition to being extremely intelligent. And he was killed for it.
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I haven't watched enough Lynch to pass judgement, but Muholland Drive is amazing film. It took a few watches for a brainlet like me to fully grasp it.

On a side note, I recently fell asleep watching 2001, and I had the most terrifying nightmare when this music came on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG7OSnyQnE

Lynch and Kubrick are both masters at constructing amazing atmosphere.
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>>129101482
removing Jews from the script was probably Kubrick trying to cover his own back since he was basically exposing them


Too bad it didn't work and they still murdered him.
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both are good.

both have style. both have substance.

quit being plebs and seperating things with these meaningless dichotomys. sounds like reddit.
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>>129099595
I read once the United states were worried how accurately depicted the inside of a war plane for Dr strangelove was, and thought he had illegal intelligence or something, so him going above and beyond for his last film exposing elite rituals probably shocked the upper echelon.
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>>129101330
A Clockwork Orange = Anti-globalism, The Shining=Anti-(((Federal Reserve))), Eyes Wide Shut=Anti-Rothschild. The man knew A LOT about the ways of his people and presumably came to despise them for it.
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>>129101482

Kubrick was surely one of the good Jews. Of course, they also claim he went insane when word got out that he was anti-Semitic. They did the same thing to Henry Ford.
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Kubrick was better at sending messages through film. Doctor Strangelove is god tier.
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>>129101820

It will torture to my dying days because we won't know what exactly did Kubrick mean by that. He was so more intelligent and learned than we will be so it annoys me that we will never know. His family seems cucked as hell they won't release his library selection.
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>>129102028
i wouldn't say he was a "good jew".
i say he was more like an objective observer of reality.
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>>129101909
what about Odyssey 2001, Spartacus or Lolita? Do they have anything deep at all?
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>>129102418
Sort of what I meant. Same thing applies to Bobby FIscher, although he denied being a Jew.
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>>129096482
Lynch is my favorite but Kubrick is objectively better. Lynch's filmography is a bit all over the place as a result of him being an almost entirely instinctual filmmaker whereas Kubrick was an actual perfectionist.
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>>129096482
Lynch
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>>129097398
Oh sweet Jesus.
>2001 1080p
>2.57GBs
>Clockwork Orange 720p
>1.06GBs
>Barry Lyndon 1080p
>3.13GBs
You get the picture. I'll pass.
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>>129099172
>lmao i'm so old!
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>>129101909
Eyes Wide Shut = Anti-Quality

Seriously that movie was flaming dog shit.
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>>129096482
It's hard to say, but I prefer Lynch. He often portrays middle America in a positive light. This has been a rare thing in Hollywood since the 70s. He's clearly nostalgic for whiter days. Blue Velvet is the epitome of this. None of the good guys have any weird neurotic hangups like the average jewish director would have given them. They're just normies who mean well and have to navigate a world with degeneracy in it.
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Otto Muehl
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>>129101820
>removing Jews from the script
Who said he did? Recall that one (((Victor Ziegler))) is present at the sex party. Also that Szandor fellow
who's likely a stand-in for (((Anton LaVey)))

>>129102559
2001 is such an extreme enigma, that I couldn't say. The best lead I have right now is that the novel (which was written concurrently) features the astronaut Dave achieving higher consciousness after travelling to Saturn. And who are the global elite often accused of worshipping? Saturn. Film changes it to Jupiter for reasons currently unknown to me.

Spartacus, I sincerely doubt has anything going on, as it really isn't a true Kubrick film. Also still haven't seen Lolita, but wouldn't be surprised if it's got some subtle references to the child sex slave ring for the rich. Also don't forget, satire or not...Dr. Strangelove ends with fascism destroying communism.
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>>129099019
It gets better a few episodes in as the mystery thickens and characters emerge.
Also, thanks for mentioning the intro.
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I think the only lynch thing I've seen is mulholland drive. I have a hard time believing there's a better director than kubrick. scorcese, spielberg, hitchcock are fairly close as well
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>>129098128
The third season of Twin Peaks on Showtime has been the best thing on TV in recent years.
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>>129101852
He was only able to do this because he was one of them. Yes he criticized the elite in his films, but they owned him. He may have resented that they owned him but he was still their pawn playing both sides.
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>>129103247
That's fucking mind-blowing, dude. What do you mind by this?
>Also don't forget, satire or not...Dr. Strangelove ends with fascism destroying communism.
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>>129102559
Kubrick disavowed Spartacus, although I think it's a great work. He got a brigade of the spanish army to play roman legionaries for fucks sake.

>commie writer had too much influence
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>>129102237
Dr Strangelove was blue-pilled trash.
>Haha the red scare is phony (it wasn't)
>Haha these anti-commies are just nuts (they weren't)
>Haha dumb nazis were way worse than commies (they weren't)
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>>129096482
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>>129102559
2001 is a parable of the tech/AI/black screen totality we now live in

Lolita explores the relationship between America and Europe/the old world symbolically, both being manipulated by a mysterious third party. Nabokov may not have intended that in the novel, but Kubrick's take hints at a WWII metaphor.
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>>129103996

wtf I love David Lynch now

just kidding, I've always loved him. One of the few authentic auteurs doing work now
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>>129096482
both faggots, gas em both

Reason ; Both have faggot hair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkRQUtD_Jo
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>>129103935
The red scare it's always phony, no russian citizen it's waiting to invade america.
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>>129101909
You watched Room 237 and think that's the only interpretation?
Retard.
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>>129103935
He gets across the idea that having a democratically elected kike in charge instead of an Alpha aryan military man is retarded, which is pretty based.
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>>129103935
I don't think that was the point. The main things I got from it were
>our leaders are often incompetent and make terrible decisions
>commies fuck up the world even when they're not trying to
>fascism is the dark fantasy of every man
>>129103891
>Kubrick disavowed Spartacus
but why
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>>129104126
>Lolita explores the relationship between America and Europe/the old world symbolically, both being manipulated by a mysterious third party.

Scary. I can't grasp any reference now, but it fits.
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>>129103247
He didn't mean removing jewish actors from the film. He meant removing the jewey essence.

Like how every single film or TV show has some line about jewishness, hannukah, etc.

(Ex: Night At The Museum where Ben Stiller's character just has to mention being 1/2 jewish for absolutely no reason)

Of course they still had that sleazy jewey music (you know what I mean) in the soundtrack so I 100% guarantee the film we saw in theaters was not his final intended work.
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>>129104306
There were communists spies undercover in the highest levels of power. The Russians literally got the secrets of the atomic bomb through communist spies in the government.

Fuck off spic.
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>>129101852
Absolutely, it did. Something like 35 minutes of material was cut out and subsequently destroyed.
>>129103717
He may have been on what you'd call "our side" even back then. How curious, too, that was his second film after fleeing the US, never to return or even leave England.
>>129103935
>Haha the red scare is phony (it wasn't)
Did you forget the part where the Russian agent just casually steals secrets while everyone's distracted?
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>>129104306
No the red scare was that Soviets and communist sympathizers were infiltrating the US government and military (they were).

That communists were infiltrating news, education, and media to indoctrinate the population.

They destroyed Joe McCarthy for his "lies" and "smears" when all 17 of the people he accused of being communists turned out to be communists.
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>>129105053
>They destroyed Joe McCarthy for his "lies" and "smears" when all 17 of the people he accused of being communists turned out to be communists.
shource?
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>>129104517
>not reading the greentext

>commie writer had too much influence

It was the first credit commie dalton trumbo got since he was blacklisted. It was child rapist kirk douglas' production. Anthony Mann was fired his first week of directing it. So it wasn't kubrick's project, and he didn't feel like he had enough control to tell his story.
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>>129105281
the hollywood 10 were communists, and they lied about it to the government. Or some shit.
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>>129105452
maybe another day, but I will keep it nonetheless. Thank you very much
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>>129104409
Nope. Never seen it. Don't be so quick to judge, now. It's obviously not the ONLY interpretation. The film as a metaphor for the slaughter of Native Americans has a lot of valid points to it as well. That moon landing stuff is a load of shit, though.
>>129104621
Ziegler is the character, the actor is (((Sydney Pollock.)))
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>>129096482
Kubrick by a long shot. Lynch's early stuff was great with Eraserhead but pretty much went downhill from there with Inland Island an excercise in masterbation. How can you beat Full Metal Jacket, Eye Wide shut, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, Clockwork Orange. It's not even close.
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>>129103247
Every test of Saturn's rings looked like crap. Jupiter was easier to reproduce. That's the official story as told by Kubrick's team. Fairly reasonable. Earth looked ridiculous (seriously - find a high quality version of the movie and you'll know what I mean). This was in the days before satellite imagery. They didn't fully know what to paint. Yes, the planets were all paintings. Kubrick had three cameras essentially making master-shots of literally everything because he was going cinescope. Doing that with a sub-par representation would've been worse than the already silly looking Earth.

But whatever. Look into it. You'll see it all when you look into it.

Also - 2001 is 100% myth. You'll need multiple interpretations to get close to what Kubrick was going on about. 2001 is not my favorite Kubrick film, but I understand why people like it. Bill Cooper had a lot to say on the subject. I think he's half right. Worth looking into, though.
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Kubrick is a hack.
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>>129105625
Please disregard my repost.
My autism wouldn't let me keep that typo posted.

>what about Odyssey 2001
I've got some redpills, but they're gonna be hard for you take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rwc5n0nycE [Embed]
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>>129104491
He intentionally made George C Scott's military character look like the most retarded man in the room.

George didn't want to be a complete nutcase because he thought it sent a bad message about military men.

Kubrick told him to act it out both ways. He lied and said the cameras weren't rolling for the over-the-top parts then used those in the final cut. George refused to work with him ever again.

Kubrick was a sneaky communist kike just like the rest of them.
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>>129104517
Because Spartacus was trash.
Kubrick only directed it because the studio needed to replace the previous director.
It was Kubrick's third or forth film.
He did it just because he thought it would make him look like a legit director.
Everything after was quickly green-lit and he had total freedom.
Spartacus was garbage, but it opened doors.
I did like the Saul Bass intro, though.
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>>129100426
don't forget about this redpilled jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oO0_1oS_oU
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>>129105979
Bill Cooper was my introduction into Luciferianism.
Interestingly I found myself sympathetic to the concepts.
I also agree with Bill that when you read the Bible red the words in red.
Bill's discussion on 2001, even if only half right, is an eye-opener - if you'll pardon the Luciferian reference.
Bill.
Fucking.
Cooper.
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>>129103935
I hate to say it - I kind of agree.
Every character was acting almost entirely without choice / free will.
Very leftist.
I still like General Ripper, though.
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>>129107637
stock characters are a hallmark of satire
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>>129096482
Lynch, without question.
Kubrick was a great director and master craftsman, and that's no small compliment. But what Lynch does with his art defies definition. He's one of a kind.
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>>129105281
Look up "The Venona Wires", a series of declassified soviet messages that list of the people who McCarthy "ruined" as the left paraded them as innocent martyrs for decades.

http://www.wnd.com/2000/02/4020/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1996/04/14/was-mccarthy-right-about-the-left/a0dc6726-e2fd-4a31-bcdd-5f352acbf5de/?utm_term=.91b9f147a644

Also look at the 1950 Army Hearings where Joe McCarthy was "destroyed" by Joe Welch.
>McCarthy: I know there are communists in the army
>Welch: Why don't you name one?
>McCarthy: You don't want me to name him.
>Welch: Yes I do. Or maybe he doesn't exist.
>McCarthy: He was an intern. He worked for you. He was exposed and you shipped him out to Boston.
>Welch: Boo hoo hoo how dare you boo hoo you ruined that boy's life boo hoo have you no shame boo hoo hoo I'm not refuting what you said I'm just blathering on boo hoo hoo

Joe McCarthy was censured for his efforts, all the commies were "vindicated" as innocent victims (until 1992 when the files exposed them), and the media paraded Welch as the guy who "destroyed" McCarthy by whining and name-calling when he got called out for covering up for a commie.
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>>129099084
Windom Earle: a great character, played by a great actor, in the wrong show.
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>>129097763
It's pretty based

>DIG YOURSELF OUT OF THE SHIT!!!
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>>129108590
I don't know about all that. I did enjoy him masquerading as log lady but other than that the character and acting was d-list. 3rd season has been great, I just wish the first two seasons had been more like that and less cheesy soap opera.
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>>129104621
i don't think it's that straightforward and neither were kubrick's thoughts about jews in general.

kubrick saying "hitler was right about almost everything" likely in order to tease and confound a jewish colleague isn't an indication that he hated jews. certainly not in the generic /pol/-sense. if he did why wouldn't he include the jewish nature of the depraved characters in EWS?

kubrick was raised and mentored by jews and maintained close friendships with jews throughout his life. and making a holocaust film was an on-and-off 20 year ambition of his.

personally i think kubrick was "redpilled" on the JQ in the same way, say, someone like nietzsche was. aware of their misdeeds and seemingly malignant inclinations within a larger, explicable historical framework that need not be ultimately damning -and perhaps wishing for conciliation via assimilation.
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>>129103006
What the fuck do you mean? Those are reasonable sizes. Anything larger would be placebo and your wouldn't notice the difference.
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>>129106024
Well thats retarded. Especially since his character was easily the most reasonable in the entire movie. I mean its either 20 million people or the entire nation, a real leader has to be prepared to make the decisions that will doom his soul to hell for the betterment of the nation.
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>>129108973
>jewish nature of the depraved characters in EWS?
A ruse. The man never stated his true intentions to anyone. Here's another interesting quote in relation to a film by one of his aforementioned Jewish friends.

"Think that's about the Holocaust? That was about success, wasn't it? The Holocaust is about 6 million people who get killed. Schindler's List is about 600 who don't."
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>>129097398
You're a legend.
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>>129108951
Don't assume that wasn't intentional. TP was intended to be, at least partially, a parody of soap operas. (Invitation to Love makes that obvious.) It feels that way because it was deliberate. And Earle was played like an evil character from a soap opera.
Season 3 feels almost like a retrospective of Lynch's career, much like Inland Empire was. I like the deliberate pacing and agree it's probably the best thing currently airing, but it feels more like a Lynch film than Twin Peaks. Which, again, is fine with me.
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>>129096482
kubrick because lynch has done the Seinfeld style
no plot line shit forever and hipsters eat it up
but it's just him trolling his fanbase
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>>129096482
Op is a fag for even suggesting lynch is on Kubricks level.
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Kubrick. I love Lynch passionately and actually prefer watching his movies to watching Kubrick's, but I can't deny the sheer perfection of Kubrick's films and the magnitude of his achievements.
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>>129103935
>Haha the red scare is phony (it wasn't)
>Haha these anti-commies are just nuts (they weren't)
It's supposed to make it seem to the average pleb that it was. We know for fact it wasn't. The whole bodily fluids scene essentially proves this since it sounds ridiculous that it's happening but it actually is.
>Haha dumb nazis were way worse than commies (they weren't)
Why do you think he stood up at the end and said "Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!"?
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>>129096482
Kubrick because fuck you that's why
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>>129110543
MUH ! How's that ?
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>>129101909
How is the shining anti federal reserve?
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>>129096482
Kubrick actually knew what the fuck was going on.

Lynch is fucking ridiculous with his Maharishi mystic bullshit.
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Kubrick (based Jew) by a long shot
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>>129104522
Lolita is a young American woman (america is a young nation)--she has no father. Her mother is killed.

Humbert is Swiss. He wants to manipulate and exploit Lolita.

But Lolita is his downfall. She is his downfall, it turns out because she was really loyal to a mysterious psychologist third party all along.

Lolita's fate is tragic and so is Humbert's. Humbert tries to kill Quilty. Quilty could be Britain, Zion, Swiss, Vatican, etc
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>>129111523
Kubrick is in the top 5 filmakers of all time.
Lynch is somewhat original but his movies are way overrated. what movies would you rather see? blue velvet and mulholland drive are boring and way overrated. he's not shit but he's a runner compared to Kubrick.
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>>129110164
i'm not sure why you brought up that quote. i don't see it as contradicting my position at all. he's saying that schindler's list wasn't a holocaust movie because it didn't actually depict the holocaust (which he intended to do in all it's purported horror with HIS holocaust movie).

my reading of that is that kubrick was essentially a pessimist and he thought spielberg's film (or people's approach to it) was disingenuous, at least in its branding.
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>>129096482

Kubrick.

Defined a generation, tbqh.
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self-explanatory
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>>129096482
David Lean
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>>129097312
Good thing you decided to chime in here, innit? Very helpful.
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>>129096482

Ugh.. They both are fucking weirdos. Although I was a Twin Peaks fan.
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>>129113155
This tbqhf

Name one bad Kubrick movie
Name another director who's made 10 straight masterpieces
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>>129112163
I think they are both complementary. One is all about aesthetics and the other one is about redpilling with some "fairytales stories (2001, Lolita, Shining...) these are the only 2 filmmaker I care about deeply. It's not really about making a choice it's more like who is touching you more, who is approaching reality of life more than anyone in the movie industry. When Lynch will die who is going to replace those 2 masters ?
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Lynch created the most effortlessly cool character in cinemas history.
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>>129114597
Three of the best movies, including the single best movie (Lawrence of Arabia) ever made within eight short years.

Kubrick is awesome, but he just can't compare in this instance.
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>>129096482

Lynch's daughter is better than he is. Kubrick and Friedkin are better than both.
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>>129106534
Wierd how he mentioned Isaac Mayer Wise and the Ochs.
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The most based movie of them all is Falling Down. A white man who fights back against society and doesn't take it anymore. A true role model for all.
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>>129111660
It's rather difficult to explain concisely, so best I just leave this here. Shame the extended version isn't readily available anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoWZEwedPkc
>>129113190
It's a strong indication that he thought Hollywood was totally full of shit, even when it came to his buddy Spielberg
>>129119087
(((Michael Douglas)))
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>>129115506
>Dr Zhivago is red pilled and not a universal epic
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>>129096482
Lynch is based. Lynch aesthetic is based on traditional Americana midwest. Lynch and Aaron Copland are the 2 great American artists of all time. And probably a native american that made a cool wood sculpture.
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>>129113155
rather watch blue velvet and wild at heart a thousand times back to back than a kubrick snoozefest.
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>>129114597
the shinning
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>>129119803
Piece of art, Michael Douglas, plays William Foster and makes an icon.
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>>129115326
I know you're joking but I still hate you for saying it.
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>>129100307

Scatman Crothers was based as fuck.
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>>129119087
A script so good even Joel Schumacher couldn't fuck the movie up.
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>>129100307
Also, you are a cocksucker who has never seen Full Metal Jacket.
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>>129120012
I can hear a David Lynch character saying this.
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Lynch knows the truth about 9/11 and I'm pretty sure his later films are symbolism for fucked up shit in Hollywood
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>>129120796
also he's been on Infowars
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>>129120670
>Alabama black snake isn't a mayamy

What other nogs of note are in FMJ?
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>>129120573
Honestly I envy William Foster, it's time for an army of like minded ppl to take a stand in this society and it's injustices. Someone fights you then you fight back, an eye for an eye, etc etc.
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eyes wide shut is everyone's example for how redpilled kubrick was when in reality eyes wide shut is a kiddie version of how cabals and dark networks work. it's literally only about a sex club there is no political interaction whatsoever. i find it enraging that eyes wide shut is posted so often it. has a very good story qua story, but the meaning of the work is mostly about the romantic relationship, and something about banality. it's not about secret cabals. in other words eyes wide shut is a good movie, it's artistic and well put together, but only redpilled in the sense it shows the virtue of art, not some exposure of conspiracies.
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>>129120742
i take that complementarily
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The Shining is the single most complex movie ever made, and I believe because of this, it is the greatest movie of all time.

If you want to have your mind blown, read the following:

>http://www.collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

Also, watch Room 237 (the documentary on The Shining), but just know that some of the analysis on The Shining inside Room 237 is disinfo, but some of it is accurate.

Yes, Kubrick did fake the moon landing footage, and yes 2001 A Space Odyssey was a practice project for that.

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u4A5tJ2j3o
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Huge Kubrick fan, have never watched a Lynch film, best most based movies at least top 5 in order please. Thank you.
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>>129096795

First post best post.
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>>129122453

eraserhead
the elephant man
mulholland drive
blue velvet

there are lots of good ones
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>>129122453
Entry level tier:
The Elephant Man

Ready to be Lynched tier:
Blue Velvet
Mulholland Drive

Just Lynch my shit up tier:
Eraserhead
Inland Empire
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An underrated director that in my opinion is on par with Stanley Kubrick, is Alejandro Jodorowsky.

Some of his masterpieces including:
- Santa Sangre
- El Topo
- The Holy Mountain

Are all on par with Kubrick & Lynch films.
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Does lynch have anything to do with this latest twin peaks remake?
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>>129122004
Intended as such.
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>>129096482
I always felt like I was poisoned after watching a Lynch movie. Eraserhead made me physically ill. I guess you could call it powerful, but it always felt weaponized.
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>>129123256
It's not a remake, it's the continuation of the story. But yes, he's directing everything. You can tell due to how fucking crazy some parts are
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>>129122820
Thx based anon, I have a instinct that The Elephant Man and Eraserhead will be God tier, but the others just below, are the others masterpieces as well.
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>>129123256
He directed all 18 episodes and co-wrote it with Mark Frost.
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>>129123467

watch the films i listed here:

>>129123081


They are god tier as well, and in my opinion they are better than most Lynch films.
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>>129096482

>The very meaninglessness of life forces man to create his own meaning. Children, of course, begin life with an untarnished sense of wonder, a capacity to experience total joy at something as simple as the greenness of a leaf; but as they grow older, the awareness of death and decay begins to impinge on their consciousness and subtly erode their joie de vivre, their idealism ā€“ and their assumption of immortality. As a child matures, he sees death and pain everywhere about him, and begins to lose faith in the ultimate goodness of man. But, if heā€™s reasonably strong ā€“ and lucky ā€“ he can emerge from this twilight of the soul into a rebirth of lifeā€™s elan. Both because of and in spite of his awareness of the meaninglessness of life, he can forge a fresh sense of purpose and affirmation. He may not recapture the same pure sense of wonder he was born with, but he can shape something far more enduring and sustaining.

T. Kubrick
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>>129123467
Lynch has not directed a bad film, in my opinion.

Okay, Dune isn't stellar, but even Lynch knew that was a mistake.
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>>129123642
I just put them on the shipping list for Netflix, have you seen falling down? They Live is another great, being there is sentimental, so many.
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I prefer Kubrick. Hands down the best filmmaker from a technical perspective, although his movies can sometimes seem a little sterile in terms of characters (e.g., 2001, Barry Lyndon).

Lynch is pretty good at projecting whatever is going on in his head onto a screen. David Wallace had a great essay about it that is worth reading if you're at all interested in Lynch.
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>>129124149
Great films. You have similar taste. I'm sure you will like Jodorowsky's films. They are bizarre. Santa Sangre has one of the wildest endings of a movie.

He is above Lynch in my opinion.
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>>129123992
If Lynch is equal or greater than Kubrick then I won't be disappointed, but Kubrick makes a masterpiece every single time, I have never been unsatisfied with his work and the film techniques he employs is genius.
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>>129122999
> not listing Wild At Heart
Inland Empire stands apart from Eraserhead as the most challenging thing Lynch ever made. Had to stop it several times to say out loud, "What the fuck am I watching?
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>>129123081

Haven't seen any of those but I did see "Jodorowsky's Dune" and that seemed pretty out there.

I also think Tarkovsky is probably in Kubrick/Lynch tier fwiw.
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Love both but I think I like Kubrick a bit more. Lynch lost me a couple times with Lost Highway and Inland Empire. I could watch Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket everyday for the rest of time and not get sick of either movie. The only one of Lynch's I like that much is The Straight Story.
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>>129124579
Try Jodorowsky's films as well. They are more bizarre than Lynch's films. I'd recommend the ones I mentioned above Santa Sangre, El Topo and The Holy Mountain.
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>>129097763
>>129097838
I thought the first 2 episodes were a bit dry. Super Lynchy, but not Twin Peaky.
But half way through the 3rd episode they started up with the Dougie stuff and the Andy/Lucy/Hawk stuff and it was back to Twin Peaky.
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>>129099277
It's the Russian word for eye
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>>129124473
I just put Jodorowsky on the list too, I think his work is terrific too. That's the problem with modern cinematography, no message, just sugary brainwashing and if there's a deep message, it's telling the future not implying and only from the elites themselves. Like the garbage hunger games, horrible.
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>>129099098

I think this is a good answer.
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>>129124492
Just be warned, Lynch is a very different kind of director. His films are bizarre and surreal. But they always make emotional sense even when they aren't logical. If that makes any sense at all.
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>>129124687

They are great,

all you have to do is read the plot and you can sense how bizarre they are:

Santa Sangre:
>A young man is confined in a mental hospital. Through a flashback we see that he was traumatized as a child, when he and his family were circus performers: he saw his father cut off the arms of his mother, a religious fanatic and leader of the heretical church of Santa Sangre ("Holy Blood"), and then commit suicide. Back in the present, he escapes and rejoins his surviving and armless mother. Against his will, he "becomes her arms" and the two undertake a grisly campaign of murder and revenge.

El Topo
>A mysterious black-clad gunfighter wanders a mystical Western landscape encountering multiple bizarre characters.

The Holy Mountain
>In a corrupt, greed-fueled world, a powerful alchemist leads a Christ-like character and seven materialistic figures to the Holy Mountain, where they hope to achieve enlightenment.
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>>129124687
Tarkovsky: for damn sure.
>>129124919
I own them all but have only seen El Topo, which I loved.
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>>129125245
The only foreseeable problem I have with Lynch is the type of movies that came out in the 90's, they provided no value and effort unlike the 70's and 60's. In my opinion, film made a comeback in 2010's at least film technique and messaging wise with movies like God Bless America, and others.
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>>129123081
watched Jodorowsky Dune
intend to watch all those you mentioned.

also Jodorowsky is a kike, he flashes illuminati symbology both in his movies and IRL
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>>129125687
>film made a comeback in 2010's
citation needed
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>>129125250
I haven't seen those 3 yet, but my bet is El Topo is the best of the 3, with the holy mountain as a close second.
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>>129125908
In my opinion of course, I have seen 100's of films and the 90's and 2000's never quite impressed me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKOZ4_a2NiE
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>>129125687
Unless you just end up hating his style for personal reasons, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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>>129126076

I prefer Santa Sangre out of those three. It was given 4/4 stars by Ebert and he said it was the greatest film of 1989, of any genre.

A quote from Ebert on the film after seeing it:
>"A movie like none I have ever seen before. Santa Sangre is a film in which the inner chambers of the soul are laid bare."

It has an NC-17 rating as well, because of some of its questionable content.

El Topo is great too though.
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>>129125825
I'm taking film class, thinking about making a movie in 10 years.
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>>129122215
If he faked the moon landing he likely also was involved in 'directing' 9/11. 9/11 was carried out in some ways by NASA. Kubrick 'died' soon before the event.
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Kubrick easily
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>>129096482

Kubrick because at least he can make sense of things and make real points that have some utility in life. In addition to having a great aesthetic.

Lynch is excellent in his own right, and it isn't even that I need all art to "make sense", and I enjoy most aspects of surrealism in Lynch's work. There is something to what he's doing and it isn't just random shit, or hardly ever is. But the fact remains that when you get right down to it Lynch cannot drive points home and actual skirts away from the whole idea of making points.

Art should at least sometimes have a point to it, and Lynch just cannot really make a cohesive, coherent point, ever. It's a blindspot and a handicap. And usually it doesn't matter because almost everything else about his work is so great.

1. Orson Welles
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. David Lynch
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>>129126449
Official history of film:
>peaked in the late 50's to early 70's
>slowly died off
>made a slight resurgence in the 90's
>slowly died off
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>>129126737
I believe Kubrick was killed because of his movie Eyes Wide Shut. Pretty sure he died before it was finished.

He used to reveal things in every one of his movies with subliminal messages. He used to study neuron-linguistic programming.

The Shining was his most complex I think where he clearly laid out so many things, that several people have spent years analyzing it.
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>>129126579
Dang, from the man himself Ebert, his critique always seem to be on point. I'll make it a priority.

Plus NC- 17 ratings mean no kiddie content, only for adults so that's good.
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Anyone have a link to the new twin peaks?
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>>129126799
Name 3 of the best films made in the 90's.
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>>129096482
Lynch. His style is far more interesting and I love Twin Peaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7d0Lm_31BE
>>129108738
Kek. That guy is Alex Jones.
>has an internet show about American patriotism
>talks about the government poisoning the people
>shills useless product at the end of the show
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>>129127117
Ebert wrote plenty of shitty, inexplicable reviews too. His review of The Elephant Man reads like he was barely paying attention.
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>>129126797

Orson Welles

>Citizen Kane
>Catch 22

Yes he deserves to be on the list of great artists especially in this dialogue.
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>>129127380
Home Alone 1, 2 and 3.
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>>129127768
WTF, whaaaaaaaaaaa, that's everything I despise about the 90's. The non realism, the fakery.
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>>129127117
Yeah, that movie has one of my favorite endings of any movie of all time. Probably my favorite.

The story is a little out there, but thats what we expect with a Jodorowsky film.
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>>129127380
But seriously. Shawshank Redemption, Silence of the Lambs and the third is debatable. Maybe Titanic, Pulp Fiction or The Matrix.
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>>129122215
After going over his 21 weird details in Eyes Wide Shut, I was surprised that I missed him namedropping the Rothschild connection. And one hand, he says it's for "the conspiracy theorists" but on the other, he also has a full length documentary on the subject based around the thesis that "everyone is a conspiracy theorist, whether they identity as such or not"
>>129126737
Uh...Kubrick died in 1999. 666 days before 2001, "incidentally" enough.
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>>129128018
Which movie, the big three directors have numerous masterpieces.
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>>129109307
pleb detected
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>>129098951

Badges?
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>>129098091
oooh called that nigger out
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>>129128244
Was referring to Santa Sangre. One of the best endings to a film in my opinion
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>>129128152
To be honest, Stopped half way through at Shawshank redemption, too slow. Silence of the Lambs was oooooookkkkkkkk, being it should've been amazing given the plot but the characters and the script were ehhh. Titanic gets a 3/5 for me, that's being nice. Haven't seen matrix, yet. Came in with very high expectations for pulp fiction, didn't deliver, very disappointed.
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>>129122999

>considers it a badge of quality to be purposely absurd and obtuse at the expense of the medium

Lynch is fucking cancer. Mullholland was by far his best if only because he managed to keep his shit together for at least 3/4 of the way.

He's a lightweight compared to Kubrick. would've been better suited for commercials since he can only think coherently a few seconds at a time.

*tips fedora
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>>129128654
I'll take you up on that, THE VERY BEST, not exaggerating here in the slightest, best ending, would have to go to Being There, search up the bio on wiki. Make that a priority NOW!
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>>129128728
Nice troll post I suppose. 2.3/5
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>>129103935
How the fuck did you take any of those away from Dr. Strangelove?
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>>129129046
Hey it fricking Titanic, pour in millions and millions out of it. Based on stupid romance, could've made it out for destiny, nope it was for stupidity and the stupid grandma.
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>>129099595

This. But he was a genius too. Lynch is just competent.
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> thread talking about great directors
> search "Nicholas Winding Refn"
> 0 results
> tfw
>>129128730
t. literal autist who needs everything to be rational or he spergs out
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>>129128730
truth
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>>129129046
Hey it fricking Titanic, pour in millions and millions out of it. Based on stupid romance, could've made it out for destiny, nope it was for stupid grandma.
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>>129129462
Every Clint Eastwood film, and I that guy from Rambo makes it to God tier level mostly every time.
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>>129128730
Makes a point.
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>>129100703

Spielberg recognized and always celebrated his genius but he was the anti Spielberg.
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>>129129294
How the fuck did you not take that away from Dr. Strangelove?
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>>129129462

Not even close. Lynch is the autist who can only manage to get attention for being cliche weird.

He's basically Elliot Rodger if he went to film school. Abstraction and shit are two different things m8.
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>>129130070
Because the Russians weren't exactly portrayed in a good light either. It mocked both sides. Also the Nazi character made little reference to antisemitism or other stereotypical Nazi stuff in movies. He just said "Mein Fuhrer" a few times.
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>>129096482

Kubrick. This is not even question. Lynch just produces crappy filmschool shit but happens to have a budget. He's a complete fraud.
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>>129101482
>How has no one said this yet?
>>Frederic Raphael, who co-authored the Eyes Wide Shut script with Kubrick, recalled that the director once remarked that "Hitler was right about almost everything", and insisted that any trace of Jewishness be expunged from the Eyes Wide Shut script. Kubrick's bizarre relationship to his own ethnicity deeply troubled Raphael, a fellow Jew.
>Kubrick was a voracious reader, more than almost any human on earth. In addition to being extremely intelligent. And he was killed for it.

Frederic was a kind of SJW.

I read his book about "Eyes Wide..." and he humiliated Kubrick in many parts! A fucking traitor.
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>>129130333
you have no idea how to interpret Lynch. you're lik e a child that eats happy meals and thinks roasted duck and potatoes is icky
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>>129130643
Massive Budget
>Winner- Spielberg (Jew liar)
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Lynch has never made anything better than Eyes Wide Shut.
>>129097763
>>129098128
>the best thing on television.
on what planet?

Just finished watching the Twin Peaks reboot and it was 5 hours about nothing. They even had one episode where he's in a casino just pointing at coin machines. the fuck is that?
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>>129096482
Kubrick, he had class. Based almost all his films on brilliant books.
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>>129130883
>>129127548
>>129122999
>>129120796
>>129120195
>>129120742
>>129120012
>>129115326
>>129108276
>t. Reddit

Go back to drinking your PBR you hipster faggots
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>>129101482
Lel. Eyes Wide Shut (Traumnovelle by Arthur Schnitzel) was written by a german hating jew.
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>>129131885
t. Marvel movie fanboy
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>>129096482
/pol/ is always invading /tv/... is this their payback?
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>>129096482
Fucking lynch. Twin Peaks alone was better than the best Kubrick has to offer.
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>>129097763
>new twin peaks best on tv
I agree completely. This shit is so fucking great.
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Something that really activates the almonds on EWS is that there's Christmas decorations in nearly every scene, with the exception of the mansion party. I (((wonder why))) that is. Not to mention they're playing liturgical music in reverse before the orgy commences. Speaking of which, that piece is absolutely terrifying, as is the opening to The Shining. Come to think of it...that's ALSO a different spin on a "Christian" piece, Dies Irae.
>>129129928
And then Spielberg comes in to take up the mantle and direct AI after his death. Is the original Kubrick script still out there? Would be great to compare and contrast.
>>129132022
It was 1926. That's kinda par for the course.
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>>129099019
>that intro
Ever seen the twin peaks episode of Psych? Fucking epic
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Alejandro Jodorowsky was on par, if not better than Stanley Kubrick.

If he had made more than just a couple theatrical films, his talents would have become recognized.
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>>129133238
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>>129132703
/pol/ and /tv/ are one and the same.
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Inland Empire is the final boss of films.
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One of the best threads I've seen on/pol/ so far, congrats.
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>>129096482

Lynch: About as politic neutral as a top-tier director/producer can be.

Kubrick:
> Dr. Strangelove - A broad, almost all-sided view of the (dark) comical nature of war
> A Clockwork Orange - the inevitable degeneracy of both sides if left unchecked
> 2001 - Do not adopt AI or self-driving cars

I'd have to go with Lynch- I love Kubrick's political idea, but Lynch is an entertainer.
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>>129101909

how is clockwork orange anti globalism?
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>>129132703
These directors were redpilled. They knew about the system. Especially Kubrick. He was a depressive because he was under stress from the control he was under by (((them))).

He revealed it all in his movies, then went too far, they killed him. And people have analyzed the shit out of his films. There has been lots of stuff found that can't be coincidence, especially in the movie The Shining, where it seems like the movie is filled giant 4D puzzles.
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>>129123637
Holy shit there are going to be 18?? I was expecting closer to 10. Fucking great news m8
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>>129135334
What's the biggest red pill in the shining, is it the indian references?
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>>129135299

They're conflating "conservative" with "anti-globalist".

The political landscape of the 60's may have been similar if measured in simple left/right terms, but in reality it's really as different as Mercury and Jupiter.
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>>129135642

Yes- every Sunday into September.

And DAMN is it good...really takes me back
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>>129135806

Possibly that the moon landing was faked by Kubrick.

Watch this clip on that Apollo 11 moon landing theory from Room 237 (the documentary on The Shining):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u4A5tJ2j3o

Room 237 also has disinfo in it though mixed with real info. If you want some real analysis, read this, it is by far the best analysis I have read:

>http://www.collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

There is also this, but we weary of some of the stuff in it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBaAfl4SuI4

There is a lot of disinfo out there.
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>>129096795
>>129097005
these are some good posts lads. upvoted.
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>>129136239
You and me both brother. The early 90s were comfy as fuck and twin peaks always takes me back
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>>129136475
Yep, >>129097005 is best post in the thread.
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>>129136366
Thx based anon, do you think Kubrick was for real or trolling?
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>>129096795
Kubrick stomps David Lynch like a bug.
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>>129136755
For real.

There is rumors that he had an IQ of 200.
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>>129136906
Wow, food for thought for sure.
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>>129135299
It's during the infamous brainwashing theater scenes. Full of cross symbolism, like the Nazi and EU flag, played alongside Ode to Joy. If memory serves correctly, he switched things up from the book by making Alex averse to Beethoven specifically. And guess what the anthem to the EU is? Ode to Joy. And guess whose idea that was in the first place? One Count Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi. Shame the video on this is also but at least the written portion was archived. https://web.archive.org/web/20120822040711/http://collativelearning.com:80/ACO%20chapter%2017%20.html
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>>129096482
Lynch just keeps making the same movie over and over using the same actors.
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>>129114785
PTA and WKW are still alive lad. Don't despair.

BTW Alain Resnais is awesome and you should watch more Mizoguchi and Kurosawa if you haven't already. Some deep shit going on in there.
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>>129133168
I said I only watched episode 1 of the first season. But I have seen that intro 10 times on YouTube, pure poetry, also reminds me of old Canadian television.
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>>129137220
And this is the dumbest post in the thread.
Oh yeah, Wild At Heart is totally the same thing as The Straight Story. How did I not see it?
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>>129096482
Milius
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>>129096482
both are excellent. kubrick might go a little deeper subliminally but lynch btfo'd network tv before people even knew they could be btfo'd. it all depends on your mood and what you want to watch.
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>>129138068
If you've never watched Psych do yourself that favor too
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>>129127073
A lot of the symbolism in 2001 a Space Odyssey predicts aspects of 9/11. One 9/11 theory suggests the bankers et al bought and developed World Trade Center area with a 9/11 endgame in mind. They tapped Kubrick to direct the event just as he was involved with the moon landing. The monolith, the presence of Hilton hotel on the spacecraft, other hints suggest Kubrick was aware of and was hinting at the ritual Temple of Solomon outcome of what became 9/11.
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>>129128167
Well somebody 'directed' 9/11, and who else would be talented enough but Kubrick or someone like him? Are you more of the mind that he was ritually killed off then?
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>>129127073
Do you have any theories on the A.I. Artificial Intelligence film Kubrick connection? I don't see it discussed as often as other projects related to him.
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>>129096482
Lynch movies have a lot of sounds, while Kubrick goes for ambiance.
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Kubrick was a self-hating jew.
Look up some of the stuff he said to Spielberg about the Holocaust while Spielberg was making Schindler's list.
He was red pilled as fuck on the Holocaust.
Plus, he either filmed the moon landing or elaborately trolled everyone into thinking he did by planting hints about it in the Shining.
Dude was /pol/ incarnate, a troll Jew larping as a Nazi.
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>>129096795
>lynch superior than kubrick

Wew U get paid for those unpopular opinions , lad?
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>>129096482
Based Kubrick - Kurosawa,Coppola,Scorcese also come to mind...
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>>129142627
Kubrick was going to make a Holocaust movie --- he did al the research and prep --- Spielberg shot and released his film in 2 years.. Kubrick was notorious for prep taking anywhere from 2 years for preproduction .... steven beat him to the punch...
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>>129143789
I still wish he made that Napoleon movie too
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>>129139287
>Are you more of the mind that he was ritually killed off then?
Yes. Absolutely nothing he'd done up to that point would suggest he'd want to be involved in orchestrating 9/11. Even if he DID shoot the moon landings, which I sincerely doubt, at least that's not sinister to the core.
>>129144153
Following Barry Lyndon, that would have felt repetitive by his standards.
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>>129096482

Damn, that's a tough one. Lynch was kind of ballsy in some of the movies he made, and he's got a real sense of art. He took a big fucking gamble when he made Dune, and it flopped at first, but became a big cult classic despite how much he hated the fucking thing. Big points for actually polishing a turd and making it something worthwhile.

Kubrick was a visionary director with a sense of perfection- he was relentless with actors doing takes over and over again until it was perfect (The Shining's elevator scene comes to mind), and a lot of them actually said he helped them evolve.

I'm a big fan of both, but in the end, I think I have to go with Kubrick.
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>>129144153
HBO is co producing with stevey to make a mini series ... i think its filming right now
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>>129096482
>literally my two favourite all-time directors
Why not both?
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>>129143789

That and he probably realised what the Holohoax was.
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>even fucking /pol/ has better taste in movies than /tv/

Why does that board even exist
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>>129096482

Lynch appeals to "muh feels" type of viewers who analyze the form of things and not the context. Basically horror for nostlagics.
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>>129147238
actually.. no .. he became quite depressed from all the research material.. and knowing kubrick.. he went through everything.. his wife in an interview said "he would cry at night all the time.. he said "how could i even film this? how can I even fake it? its too horrible, the breakdown of mankind'
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>>129121070
Holy shit he actually fucking was. This is blowing my mind
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>>129104126

2001 was about Illuminati kikes.

https://youtu.be/XYHrv2Z1Q7I

^Look up William Cooper. He knew what he was talking about and died for it.
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>>129150835
Love me some William Cooper. Need to dust off my copy of pale horse
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