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What is your job?

Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?

Why not?

Keep in mind, we've been using algorithms to dictate investment decisions for a long time now. Computer systems dictate how markets move. Doctors spend more time "punching shit in the computer" than actually using their brains. Surgery robots are getting better every day, and they don't require 16 years of schooling or a $300,000 salary. Lawyers use computer databases to help build cases. Companies use data from social media and other data skimming services to predict market trends and innovate.

Military decisions are done through computer simulations, and drones are doing a lot of work on the ground.

What is your long term plan? What do you plan on doing in 30 years?
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>tfw graphic designer and no robot will ever take over my job
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>>129063741
I test security of computers and networks. The more things they connect, the more work to do. Good times, gotta love the Internet of Things.

>>129064055
Yes, some good software can do it
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>>129063741
>algorithms
well they won't write themselves so I'm safe
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>>129063741
professional neet
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i fix air conditioners. they probably cant replace my job, but will just make the actual air conditioners as more smaller/disposable units instead of ones that need repair so i figure im fucked
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>>129063741
>tfw work in a legal profession that requires human-to-human interaction
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System admin, God I'd love if they automated my job, but I doubt any AI will be smart to fix all the stupid shit people do on computers any time soon.
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>>129063741
People don't trust robots in regards to banking, it's over and over proven. Hell I know people who still are old as fuck mind you but refuse to use an ATM, they need 20 bucks? They write a check and go to a teller.

Now you may say sure they are dying off and I can't deny that. People who grew up on social media are becoming that way, not the norm but it's a niche movement.

Yes a robot can hit better investments than a person, I am obsolete, I'm aware but aimbot 300 doesn't take you out to lunch, talk with you etc. That sells more than a half point on returns. This is what I do for a living and I assure you it's me remembering your kids name vs a charming apple welcome sign and that sells people.

30 years? I'll be retired and don't give a fuck, god willing 10 years I will be.
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>>129064582
>they won't write themselves

Do you have any reason to believe that it would be impossible for such a development in your life? Do you think it's highly improbable?

>>129064483
This is funny, because my gf is actually writing code to automate security testing. It's master's level comp sci shit so it's way out of my league of understanding, but it seems like people are interested in finding ways to make your job obsolete today.
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I run a CNC machine. A watch a machine do most of the day. Then I watch the machine fuck itself with whacky errors and just refusing to do the code.
I am not afraid a machine will take over running my machine.
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I used to program robots for years. Likely will again as a long-term for when I get my degree.
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>>129063741

>Systems Analyst
>No
>Because even though computers are logical. Users are not
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>>129064748
Cars are already like that these days. Teslas are basically build in a way that they can be lifted up and have every part pulled off and replaced.

>>129064805
>requires
How long will that requirement be in place, do you think? Robots can have perfect confidentiality.

>>129065161
Every single person I know in my age group, and even my parents all use online banking.

Why can't aimbot 300 take you out to lunch? That sounds like a Michael Scott approach to winning customers. Would you go with the soulless robot that made its last clients a billion dollars, or jim the handsome guy who knows a good place for fish?
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>>129065223
>writing code to automate security testing
It's mostly already automated tbqh, sysadmining will be done by computers in the future for sure.

I am not to worried, as it's not my only field of focus, just what I am occupied with at this time. Never stack all your eggs in one basket, eh
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>>129063741
>do your job within the next 10 years?

>law enforcement

not gona happen senpai
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>>129065644
exactly. they can make remake every tech in such a way that it's really easy for a robot to replace the broken modules and then all tech jobs are gone. it wont be that hard
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>>129063741
Just as AI made the Grandmaster Chess player obsolete, cybernetics will make AI obsolete.

Humans have five to nine bits of RAM in their brain. If you gave a human a RAM stick and installed in its brain, a lot of the advantages machines have over man would disappear. That's the reason why machines are better thinkers than us. For now.

A cybernetic Bobby Fisher could defeat Deep Blue in a chess match.
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Developer, making web interfaces and touch screen interfaces for manufacturing machines. 10-15 year AI will replace my job with drag and drop that a retard could use.
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>>129064055
Robots are more creative than humans.
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>>129065370
When was your CNC machine built?

Software is getting better in regards to this sort of thing, I think. I remember working on my high school's lathe and that was a manual job. I've toured some shops where they have these old million dollar monstrosities running on floppy discs, and I wouldn't be surprised if newer ones could simply interface with a computer that connects to a network to troubleshoot from.
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Linguist. 14 months feel into Korean (didn't choose it got told to do this language) 6 hours a day of class 3 hours of study
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>>129066073
>Robots are more creative than humans
>Humans created robots
activated my almonds mr bahamas
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>>129063741
keep dreamin kids, I'm still waiting on my rocketpack and flying cars.
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>>129065807
https://thenextweb.com/security/2017/05/22/robot-cop-begins-patrolling-streets-dubai-tomorrow-night/

Can't wait senpai, I hope you starve for surviving the state, boot licking killer.
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>>129063741
>t. Unemployed student

Go rake yourself faggot
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>>129066234
There are A.I composing songs and making artwork.
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>>129065644
>How long will that requirement be in place, do you think? Robots can have perfect confidentiality
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>>129066376
>There are A.I* composing songs and making artwork
*algorithms made by humans to take input and generate output based on said algorithms

gee whiz they're basically mozart & davinci!
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>>129063741

it has a gap-teeth lol
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>>129063741

Own the company. We do Cultural Due Diligence as part of a recruiting firm. Every candidate we look at has the right resume. Our job is to find the right cultural match, in terms of personality, the ensure the greatest success of our placements. It's something you just can't quantify or automate.
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>>129065807
Facial recognition software and connected cameras seem like a logical way to make tracking down suspects easier.

The actual manual labor job of taking a suspect into custody however seems to be unable to be performed by a machine quite yet.

>>129065969
Nowadays there's a format where humans work with AIs to play chess. It's interesting, I would love to get involved in the field of cybernetics.
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>>129066334

>wants robots that obey the state 100% and have no conscious at all.
>calls humans with free will bootlickers

real fires the neurons
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>>129066666
>We do Cultural Due Diligence as part of a recruiting firm. Every candidate we look at has the right resume. Our job is to find the right cultural match, in terms of personality, the ensure the greatest success of our placements. It's something you just can't quantify or automate
Checked for truth.
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>>129066666
>66666
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>ITT: people give their professions that wont be replaced within 10 years and cancuck fast food workers tells them it will while sobbing
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>>129065370
No. Your company will just invest in proper equipment someday and you and that nachine will be tossed.
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>>129063741
Mechanical Engineer. Robot might take my job in the next 30 years, but not in the next 10. As long as they get some good VR to fulfill my unobtainable fetishes then I'll be okay with it.
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>>129063741
>What do you plan on doing in 30 years?
Still being the same loser.
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>>129063741
>What is your job?
NEET
>Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?
no
>Why not?
Why make a robot to leech of society?
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>>129065969
I actually think this is accurate, and what will eventually happen
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>>129065116
Same here. There's some automation but I'm more worried about poos honestly.

Worst case I'll probably have to go into trades or something.
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>>129063741
electrician

Ten years? no. maybe 20. Need extreme agility and dexterity for most of the job. Stuff like prefab housing is going to be a thing though. snap together walls and such with wiring already taken care of. Residential electricians are all retarded anyways.
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>>129066823
>Believing the state will survive the AI revolution.

Tech will be just fine, tech will eat the state alive.
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>>129066752
There will come a time where being Cybernetically enhanced will be more important than getting a college degree. There will be a tremendous capital investment cost to 'upgrade' yourself to be employable. And let's not even begin to mention the genetic revolution that's ALSO going to occur as well.

Inevitably, 112 IQ will become the new mean that's employable, as the economy gets more and more complicated. We are genuinely fucked because our globalist overlords don't understand that you can't make a diamond out of coal.
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>>129063741
anyone that drives a vehicle as their job will be the first to go and that is a massive slice of the workforce
just this change alone with completely upset our modern society
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>>129063741
>Copywriter for a Marketing Firm
Hard to say. Most of what I do is translating the insane garble of nonsense engineers put on their whitepapers into something far more legible. For some of the previous business I've worked with, a program with an advance spellcheck could easily take over. But for others—like a spyware company going through a rebranding—God no. I spent months rewriting their entire website so as to not sound like they were stealing lines from a Judge Dredd comic.
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>>129066234
sure bud
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>>129063741
I am a teacher.
Yes, I legitimately belive robots won't take my job.
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>>129063741
>doctors spend more time"punching shit into a computer" than actually using their brains. Surgery robots are getting better every day, and they don't require 16 years of schooling or a $300,000 salary
Bullshit

t. doctor.
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>>129067542
>112 IQ will become the new mean that's employable

good luck finding a lot of those after a few generations of 3rd world migration
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>>129063741
I'm an IT director. If anything I'll be even better off when everything is automated.
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>>129066907
>Checked for truth.
Very few out there do it. Most just troll the resume boards to throw resumes up against the wall to see what sticks. Over 90% of our placements are still there after 5 years. it's why we can charge a high percentage.
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>>129063741
The next revolution will be the intellectual AI revolution.

The industrial revolution trivialized production jobs.

AI revolution will trivialize jobs that require thinking.

We're all fucked.

Humans were only made to birth the machine master race.
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>>129067871

Yep. Now nobody will question your stupid decisions and machines will take over your responsibility to think logically about design and implementation.
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>>129067826
We could basically make a pile of ground beef sentient with the right components. What makes you think we won't have a planet of yakub-like freaks?
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>>129063741
i have no job,
i guess a robot is perfectly qualified to do it.
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>>129067765
do canadian docs actually make that much? I get along well with my GP and he flat out told me he makes 160. I mean that's good, but considering I make 118 and didn't go to university..

I guess if you're a specialist of some kind it goes up significantly?
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>>129063741
Robots can easily do my job in 10 years. I don't care, I guess I'm just going to take it easy for a while then.
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>>129067765
What type of medicine do you do?

If you're a GP, what's the first thing you do when a patient comes in with symptoms, and you don't know what it could be?
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>>129068169
Sauce?
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>>129068130
>Implying automation = true AI
okay, I see you're retarded.
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>>129063741
MD, not in the next 10 years. To diagnose someone correctly u need to think abstractive. It is not just statistics. Moreover my job is strictly combined with human feelings, which robots cannot replace.
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>>129067765
As a retail pharmacist I'm probably the only healthcare job on the chopping block.
Fucking end my life.
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>>129063741
I'm a computer systems engineer.

My job is mostly microcontroller programming.

I'm become the killer of jobs
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>>129063741
A robot will never be able to do my job, I'm a structural engineer for a construction company. I have to review plans, design/build, manage projects and hire people. There's a lot of robotics now in construction, especially demo, but I can't imagine it being much different in 100 years than it is now, considering that we do things the same way they were done 100 years ago.
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>>129063741
>electrical engineer
>mfw I will control the robots
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>>129068171
No. I make 150K a year. BTW what do you do to get 118 a year without university?
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>>129066628
Better than humans though.

A human is a machine powered by chemical reactions.
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>>129068427
What's a GP? I'm a naturopathic doctor we don't use those terms.
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>>129063741
I build robots.

Nobody wants a robot built by robots. That's just retarded.
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>>129068459
no sauce on your pasta. raw pasta best pasta.
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>>129068497
As a patient who has had experiences with bad doctors, (Appendicitis diagnosed as "bad gas", I almost died) I would prefer a computer that can give me real data over someone who "feels this might be right".
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>>129066643

That is exactly why hes alpha
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>>129068812
General practitioner.

Oh god, naturopaths aren't doctors. Don't delude yourself.
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>>129063741

I'm probably going to wait tables til 2050
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>>129068812
I guess this is a job that wont get replaced.
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Writer, director, 3D animator. Good luck robo homos
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>>129063741

3D animator.
No.
It's hard enough to do properly as it is, I'm doubtful someone can teach a computer the 12 principles and have them animate a character jacking off into a sock, let alone a short film.

Doing what I'm doing now, unless pakis have overrun the UK.
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>>129067946
AI will replace thinking that has any routine aspect to it. When it comes to being replaced, it's more likely we'll be replaced by Aliens or Superhumans than robots.

>>129068140
The question then becomes how much $$$ would it cost to raise the cognitive capacity of people who lack intelligent genes. It would cost a significant amount of capital to raise the IQ of a third world to a first world. And even then, we are talking about bringing people's intelligence up to a mere '98ish.' The cost doesn't justify the relative advantage. Genetic engineering, otoh, makes no sense because we can do it in the womb rather than while the person is alive.

Of course, globalists aren't even thinking that far ahead. They still believe that all these Syrian refugees can be doctors and engineers if they are given enough tolerance.
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>>129068904
Oh so we aren't doctors because we know the truth?
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>>129063741
I just realized for the first time that the robots in Terminator - even in robot form - still have the gap between their front teeth that Arnold has. Amazing attention to detail.
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So far it seems the only jobs that are robot-proof might be creative work.

I feel like a moron for falling for the STEM meme.

t. depressed second year physics major.
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>>129067883
Sister who works at a top fortune 100 company, their hiring motto is literally what you stated > they hire for fit based on personality and "fit" within their culture, knowing that they can train the hire to fit the role from their
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Service plumber for high-rise buildings

Trades seem pretty safe, new construction might be taken over within the next decade but it'll take a while to make a machine small/nimble/intelligent enough to deal with repairs on the fly
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>>129069411
pure science degree is only worth it if you follow through to PhD
good luck getting a relevant job with just a physics BS
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>>129069248
Gene editing is also a thing that I'm amazed america isn't jumping on.

It wouldn't surprise me if in 15 years we see a bunch of hot shot top geniuses graduating from the best schools who have been genetically modified.

What are we going to do when the genetically engineered geniuses start becoming prevalent? Is the public going to react well when the valedictorians of all the best universities in the world were all born under the supervision of the same genetic engineering company?

I think it's a safe bet to say this is already happening in China.
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>>129063741
>Not being NEET

How can you even begin to call yourself redpilled?
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>>129063741
>What is your job?
According to the libtards, I'm a racist raper.

>Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?
Well. If it's a white robot because niggers hate milk.

>Why not?
Don't ask me. I'm a racist raper.
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>>129068840
Hmm... of course there are bad doctors. However, let me explain why statistics are not the best way to diagnose someone.

Imagine that. You are going to your robot-MD. You get full list of symptoms that u may have. Checking and checking more and more possibilities. Everyone has chronic fatigue, intestinal disorders, fever, cough and so on.
I dare you, go and fill the internet survey of Lyme disease. I assure you, the statistic will reveal that you were sick.

To diagnose with the statistic tool, u anyway need someone educated (doc) who compare all possible diagnoses (with common symptoms I assume that will reach unconceivable values) to your clinical status.
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>>129063741

I'm sure population explosion, massive non-White immigration, and constantly advancing automation, won't be a problem.

Right Goys?
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>>129069649
I did physics because I'm interested in it, but the programming skills I have are where I expect to get a job. I know a few guys that got bought up by facebook with just a bachelors in physics.
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>>129070220
Fuck, even cows aren't safe.
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>>129070220
Sure buddy, even though the population is shrinking
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>>129070563

(((Shrinking)))
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>>129070041
The top performers will be done via natural selection. This is because there will be a gap in ignorance between what the intelligent genes are, and the intelligent genes we are currently aware of. As this gap closes, this will produce a higher and higher mean of IQ, to the point where it will cross over into 2 SD from the norm as we document all the genes.

There are problems with gene editing, though. For instance, natural selection still occurs when we do 'artificial selection.' Meaning we first select traits that we think our advantageous, then the environment either confirms those traits are advantageous or not. So we could raise a bunch of geniuses who are incapable of social functioning, or so depressed they kill themselves out of mental instability.

And then there's the question of, 'is this trait a good thing or a bad thing?' ADHD and Schizotypy are known to produce advantages in certain contexts, but also create disadvantages in the thinker as well. If you removed all the Schizotypal genes from the gene pool, you kill off Albert Einstein, Issac Newton, and Charles Darwin. Kill off the ADHD genes, and you kill off pretty much all the celebrities.

China will fuck up genetic engineering, knowing how they politically operate, but other nations will be more cautious and therefore more successful.
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>>129070211
What's to say a robot couldn't make these distinguishments?

Mind you an AI system could easily constantly track your vitals as you proceed through the day and adjust their findings on a real-time scale with persistent observation. A doctor only has so many hours in a day, and so many patients to look at. They can only collect so much data and make a decision based on it. The more patients that fill in more data, the finer the distinguishing details can be. There is probably a lot of things we don't know about how lyme disease affects the body, and it wouldn't surprise me if an AI could find these "hidden symptoms" that human doctors never noticed.
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>>129063741

gardener/landscaper/horticulturalist

people are too lazy and cheap to buy some expensive robot that does all the shit around the yard they need done. Most people can't even access their areas with a wheelbarrow.

The only threat to my job is illegal immigrants which we dont have in australia.

Also aussies don't want some foriegner turning up to their house when they aren't there and fucking around in their yard.
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>>129063741
I work at a hardware store (not for pcs, but house hardware like screwdrivers and stuff).

I'm sick and tired of having to serve the fucking clients that have absolutely no clue about what the fuck they want.

It is not like they come up with "I have X problem and i dont know how to fix it, do you have any idea of what could i buy?" or "Here, i broke this, do you have something like this?", they just come through the door and ask for "THAT THING" THAT FUCKING THING, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE YOU WORK HERE and then complain and get angry when i politely explain them that i don't have any clue what "that thing" is(because, when you have more than 10k products in stock, "that thing" can mean literally anything).

And repeat that 20 or more times a day.

To replace this fucking job:

-Someone must create an app that recognizes the parts of the things in the house so people can go to the store knowing what the fuck they need. In order to do this, the user must take a picture, and the scifi algorithm would recognize the things in the picture (like phones recognizes faces, this would recognize household items). So the phone would recognize things such as: Tubes and their accesories, types of lamps and their sockets, etc.

-And the other part of the human replacement would be a amazon-like shit for household things, with an option to deliver a repairmen (with an uber-like contract). Or stores with machnes instead of people so they would select the products in a screen a product line would deliver it from the inventory.
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>>129070206
Lab grown meat is coming soon. Why not lab grown milk?

A big fucking tower of proteins and enzymes coalescing into the best-tasting, freshest, greatest milk every produced, enriched with more vitamins and minerals. And not a single cow in sight. (except perhaps the mascot.)
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>>129069278
"We know the truth?"

See: Singh S, Ernst E (2009). Naturopathy. Trick or Treatment?: Alternative Medicine on Trial. Transworld. pp. 197–. ISBN 978-1-4090-8180-7. many naturopaths are against mainstream medicine and advise their patients accordingly – for instance many are not in favour of vaccination."

Your approach is pseuedoscientific folk-medicine that is completely based on superstition and rejects an evidence-based model of development. Meaning, you're against the scientific method.

You know what the term "doctor" means in the modern world? Somebody who has written and successfully defended a doctoral-level thesis, i.e. a scientific proposition, in a peer-reviewed environment.

By claiming to be a naturopath, you thereby throw away any assertion you are a doctor.
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>>129070988
That's proof the population is shrinking, surly more people couldn't appear there.
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>>129070471
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>>129064055
>tfw your job can be outsourced to better graphic designers in poopistan for pennies on the dollar
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>>129063741

Furniture delivery. I'm certain that -I'll- be unable to do the job in 10 years, given the strain it puts on my body, but as for robots...

>Good luck building robots that can fill, stack, and compress a warehouse full of obtuse boxed and bagged items better than a human.

>Good luck building robots that can fill and strap down a truck for a day's delivery without damaging items better than a human.

>Good luck building a self-driving truck that can navigate backward-ass roads and driveways better than a human.

>Good luck building robots that can navigate the interior of a house while carrying awkward pieces of furniture without damaging the home better than a human.

>Good luck building robots that can unpack, setup, and clean up countless sets of furniture from differing manufacturers, dispose of the garbage, and still navigate about the truck better than a human.

There is no conceivable way that robots will ever approach the necessary muscular finesse and complexity inherent to my job and many others, because I do all of that for $14 an hour. At the point where robotics become so refined AND accessible as to be cheaper to employ than human labour, then we are presumably operating within a future of near-limitless robotic labour, where human labour, and therefore jobs in general, are obsolete. ie. a fantasy land.

It's always the people hyping up automation that have absolutely no clue about the vast number of jobs dependent on creative human labour.
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>>129071526

Are you retarded?
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>>129063741

I help the computers take over, so should be safe for now.
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>>129071055
True, that is the future. However doctors wont be replaced totally anyway. They will just be converted to controllers of the treatment. But considering even next 20 years, that is unreachable.
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>Want to become FBI special agent

How fucked am I?
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>>129063741
I build chemical laboratory simulations of the stratosphere to study free radical reactions. No robot taking that away from me.
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>>129071055
Moreover, the clue word there is the AI.
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>>129071526


Yay, population is shrinking Goys.
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>tfw I'm import/export

I'll be in retirement by then
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>>129063741
Insurance salesman.
You can buy insurance online already, but we continue to have you idiots always wanting to talk to a "real person".
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>>129071681
Ok, perhaps not "all jobs" will go away. But billions might, and nobody really has a plan for what to do when that happens.

Are we just gonna let them starve? You think they'll take that sitting down?
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>>129063741
Systems Admin, IT Lead

I'll be the one making sure the robot fleet is working properly.
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>>129071707
Your chart literally shows the population going down. RETARD

>>129071853
Yeah considering your graph literally shows that
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>>129071913
umm no that's like the first thing automated.
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>>129065644
As I said, it's a niche, and one that is replacing it self enough to stay a niche.

Also I wish I was joking but the latter. People feel an incredible emotional tie to money, personality helps with building that trust.

I don't make the rules of human thinking, but I'm posting from my side of the coin living it.

Bad day on the market? Mail someone a card saying thanks... you then see 2 grand dumped at you.

As long as there is a niche to be filled, banks will exploit it. That much I promise.
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>>129072271
The question then comes, will a human touch be able to influence a robotic decision maker?
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>property developer with 400k in savings and 250k in properties being currently renovated

how does a robot take my job ?
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>>129072143
actually it shows a percentage distribution change. The overall numbers can be going up, just with a higher rate in africans than europeans.

t. completed "percentages and fractions" when it was taught to me in fourth grade.
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>>129072143

Holy shit you silly bitch.

There are 1.4 Billion Chinese, and 1.4 Billion Indians, and Africans are nearly a Billion.

Whites are maybe 500-700 Million. Are you too fucking stupid to see a probrem?
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Prostitute
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>>129072664
What does a property developer do all day?

Besides interfacing with clients.
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>>129072058
The Left Wing has always been about change. Whether changing from monarchy to liberalism, capitalism to communism, or nationalism to globalism. The thing is, if the Left Wing actively gets in the way or interferes with the automation revolution, it will become incoherent and will be usurped by a different kind of Left.

Globalism has no coherent response to the coming obsolesce of the majority of humanity, besides generous gibs which would break the system into inflation. Whether the Left decides to get involved in preventing the transformation of mankind, we'll see. But fundamentally, the Left cannot stand against change without it itself being destroyed by its own.

I think we'll see a massive increase in the hiring of security as it will be cheaper to fight the unemployable than feed them.
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>>129072706
Well no where it says the population is going up

>>129072747
You're very dumb, what you said is PROOF the world population is going down. Plus there is only 8 billion people and will at most only reach 25 billion in our lifetime.
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>>129072889
I hear a lot of "doom and gloom" with respect to Japan's population deflation. Why would the same people who extol the virtues of growth simultaneously be interested in reducing the consumer class size?

Is economics really just a meme? I don't mean this in an ironic 4chan joke sort of way. Are the markets heading in a way where population deflation will be the advantageous choice?
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NEET
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>>129073128
Looks like its increasing.

Also why are charts like this not brought up more? We have way more people than fucking ever before. Unfathomably way more people. It's a lot more difficult to die these days since we have so much excess food and medicine. People just live in shitholes and don't die because the only resource they don't have is wealth.
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>>129067590
How did you get started? I myself gotten like fifteen contracts this past year.

Any advice to keep the fire going?
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>>129065644
I always wondered why tesla didn't utilize tplug and play as a workaround for recharge time.

>buy your tesla w/o a battery
>pay $30 for a fully charged battery
>drive it until almost dead
>go to a tesla station
>pay 20-30
>get your battery popped out and swapped for a fully charged one in 1 minute.
>continue driving.
>tesla station recharges battery and gives it to the next guy.

You won't have to wait for a recharge, price of car it self goes down because you don't have to pay for the battery, so tesla can sell more cars. Nobody has to wait for a recharge. Cost of the batteries is paid for by the swap fee. This is the only way tesla shipping trucks would sell, seeing as no shipping company would tolerate a 300 mile range.

It does kinda make tesla resale viable, which it pretty much isn't at the moment, since by the time you're ready to resell the thing is going to need a new 30k battery.
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>>129073249

Japan's national wealth has recently surpassed China's, despite a declining population. Globalists aren't smart enough to distinguish between 'proletariat' and 'lumpenproletariat.' The Communists, comparatively, would simply liquidate ghettos because criminals and deadbeats can't make a surplus. Globalists, out of naïve political orthodoxy, believe that everyone can be a consumer and a net positive to the system, and that low skill labor will always be needed in some capacity. Which is absolutely bonkers, because not even being an infantryman is 'low-skill labor.'

Economics is full of shit that closed itself off to outside thinking a long time ago. If you took Harvard's best and brightest economists, threw them on a free speech platform like 4chan, they'd get their shit kicked in by a bunch of untrained NEETs. Why? Because academia is utilized to control thought rather than necessarily produce thought. Population deflation IS the humane and advantageous choice, but because globalists gonna global, they assume that Paco and company will always be employable, and not a net drain on the system.

I will be wrong, however, if labor participation rate rises over time. In that case, the immigration was a smart decision. But it hasn't. It's falling.

The world is on the presipusof a dark age due to bad choices that are being made. People will look at this era the same way we look at Maoists in China.
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>>129073128

No worries then Goy. Annnd Sleeeeeepppp.
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>>129074305
You know, the Marines turned down Robo Dog because it made too much noise and it's power couldn't last long enough. It's surprisingly difficult to automate flesh and blood in combat.
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>>129069337

I wonder if there's an evo explanation behind it.
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>>129072878
i buy properties, develop and sell on. not much really, do bits and bobs but workies do the bulk of the harder things.
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>>129074166
Why even fucking buy a tesla when it's already designed to come to your door when you push a button on your phone. Who says it has to be the same tesla you drove last weekend?

Hell I can go online right now, sign up on a website, and walk about 5 minutes and enter a smart car and drive it away.
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>>129063741
I code in whatever language asked, and unless middle management gets replaced with robots, still have to write fucked up software to these people's fucked up requirements.
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>>129074737
ease of infiltration
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>>129074749
So literally your job is "I have money and buy stuff that makes money."

Would a robot with money be able to do your job? It seems like you just sign papers and tell people what to do.
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>>129074677

You realize things aren't static, and that they progress, right?

This is only in it's infancy.
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>>129063741
It tech here. I will most likely be programming robots that make other peoples jobs obsolete
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>>129077082
>>129074677
Stayin' alive
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>>129074170
>Population deflation IS the humane and advantageous choice

One way they should approach this, should they decide to, is buy paying people $5000 to get themselves a vasectomy/tubes tied.

They won't resist because it's more money than have seen in their lives, and they won't reproduce.

Those who have an ounce of forethought will at least have their sperm frozen.

It's a win/win.
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Law enforcement officer, not likely that a robot would replace me in the near future.
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>>129077966
Can't do much in term's of today's elite. They still believe that every birth will lead to more money and debt, so as long as they believe that, globalists will refuse to try and lower the birth rate from the less productive elements of society.
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I work at a gas station :(
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>>129063741
Robots can't mow lawns for shit. So that line of work should be safe for a while longer. They also suck at crushing beer cans and collecting scraper metal too. Also if you ask my opinion robots would make horrible escorts so all those hot young college girls should still be able to work their way through college. Maybe pol could help them by calling them up and paying them for an hour of their time it will help the economy also.
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>>129078910
psst, hey kid, wanna go mow a few acres?

This particular picture is a shit one. But I imagine the concept could easily be improved. You may end up being delegated to weed whacking exclusively in a bit.
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>>129063741
>What is your job?
IT Director.

>>129063741
>Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?
No.

>>129063741
>Why not?
Most of my job is solving problems, a robot has no advantage because there is very little in the way of physical labour. By the time any kind of AI can do my job it will have already been able to do many other lesser jobs and that lends some security because society will have solved the problem of AI taking over by that point or just fallen apart unilaterally.
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>>129063741
autism bucks.
yes?
it wouldn't be a very productive use of robots.
die.
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>>129063741

If you can find a robot that can tell me the difference between a truck and an SUV, I'll submit to our technological overlords.
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>>129078806

If the elites weren't an obstacle would you agree that it's a viable option?
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>>129080318
Sounds like it could be easily implemented into a barcode.

What context are you referring to? Image recognition?
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>>129063741
I operate concretepumps, cranes, as well as repair them. They have been trying to replace the operators with auto booms with little success. There are too many variables in both. About the only cranes I could see them automating would be tower cranes, but mobile cranes, forget it. Same with the pumps.
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>>129063741
I work in a lab performing various tests on raw materials for quality control. It would be really difficult to automate what I do but I'm sure it's possible. Lots of variables involved in how I operate so it would have to be capable of adapting to an ever changing environment. In 30 years I'm hoping to be head of my department or in a different position altogether or retired just because I'll be able to. And I will be able to. Either way I'm good. I just hope my kids and grand kids are able to provide for themselves even if we are forced to turn into an extreme welfare state due to automation. I'll probably tell my son to get a degree in robotics. Someone's gonna have to build and maintain them.
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>>129080377
I don't know honestly. Giving a basic income to people in exchange for sterilization may go a long way in making sure we aren't overwhelmed by too much of the lumpenproletariat. Venezuela could be our future, for instance, if labor participation rate drops too low, immigration happens too fast, and we have to give out too many benefits at once.

Honestly, the whole world's gonna have to collapse before things get better. There are too many problems that the elites want to inflict on the world to solve. We're like Romans in the third century marching toward our doom because of our own incompetence.
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There will be some jobs that will be winners because of this. I think robots would make cops job much easier.

>Handles paperwork
>Possibly handle court
>Handles traffic such as in dubai
>Handles bombs (Becoming pretty much staple now)

And the cop still has to do the calls for service because no robot would ever have the same effect as a real human interracting
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why does OP keep making this thread? robots might be CAPABLE of doing many jobs soon, but it will be a long time before they are economically viable since any full body, full AI robot will be extremely expensive.
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>>129080678

I don't know, maybe the computer should tell me.

Oh that's right, it can't, and won't be able to.
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>>129063741
No, job requires too much movement.
The amount of time it would take and the amount of machines to move shit from point a to b, a machine to do said task, and repeat would actually be counter productive.
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>>129082002
I don't mind, it's a very interesting topic.
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>>129081985
>Handles paperwork

woudl be actually a good thing, this shit has been growing since for ever.
You spent more time documenting and writing dozen reports on crimes where you spent maybe 15 minute investigating and than hours of paperwork
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>>129063741
Mechanical Draftsman here, racked up 20k hours work experience in one of the largest HVAC companies in the world. Just started my own company. I'm fine.
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>>129063741
I am a budtender at a recreational cannabis store so I think i'm good.
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>>129081985
Fantastic way to cut down on a the policing budget. Let the computers do the paperwork, have the cop only do patrol work. I'm sure most police officers would be delighted. Better yet, just cut the hours they'd be working and make it a part-time job.
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>>129063741
I am a programmer and I often use ML ( machine learning ) components in my work.
Do you think it will learn to take my job also ?
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>>129083020
I think mail-order or growing your own will get popular soon. At least, if you have space.
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>>129065223
>my gf is actually writing code
obvious liar
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>>129063741
It's not about whether they CAN, as much as is it economical.

Take cars for instance... There are lots and lots of very old model vehicles on the road. Not everyone can afford to buy brand new vehicles. Upgrading to autonomous driving is much farther away than is touted these days based on that principle alone. It's just not economical on a massive scale.

I call it the Back to the Future paradox. The technologies that were dreamed up in that movie about the future are not even close to reality, yet. Economics pushed technology in a different direction. Full autonomous society is being described as being 10-20 years away... in a perfect world. I'd say that autonomous society is 2, 3, or even 4 times farther into the future than that. It doesn't have to be, but that's the way life has gone, and I see nothing happening that would change that principle.
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>>129082751
>>129083317
Yup. A cop spends about 50-60% percent of his job time on paperwork, this is a fact.

So you would lower the response time by having more officers on patrol drastically, this would lead to a huge increase in morale and public opinion, even furthering a decline in crime rate. It would also save a ton of money too, so departments can hire more officers and get them better equipment to work with, as some departments can't afford to issue officers a TASER.

It would work something like this:

>Bodycam records event
>Robot analyses event, describes it almost perfectly in the paperwork
>Rest of the stuff needed in paperwork such as time, date, location, etc. is child's play for the robot.
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>>129083900
Even if mail order and homegrown becomes the norm, there will always be tourists who drop big money in my tip jar because I use made up word to tall them how this high is so much different than that high
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Im a warehouse operator and floor manager at a medical devices company. I have spoken with my boss many times, my job will not and can not be replaced by a machine. Woohooo im safe :)
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>>129078806


Do you understand why the (((elites))) or (((Jews))) care about Money and Debt? They print the money, and control the debt.
It's only a tool used to dominate the world. When they have no more use for people (automation) they will work to get rid of us.
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>>129063741
> What is your job?
AI development
> Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?
Not at the level that I develop.
> Why not?
Information theory
> What is your long term plan?
- Produce and develop AI platform
- Take proceeds and fund an advanced energy platform
> What do you plan on doing in 30 years?
Energy R&D
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>>129063741
Avionics technician. I wire up aircraft, install radios and equipment, that sort of thing. Robots will be unable to do my job until they are basically as capable as a human in terms of critical thought, spatial awareness and physical dexterity.

Or they could completely change how aircraft are built to make them easier for a robot to work with, and scrap all the 60-year old Cessnas and pipers flying around.
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>>129084519
Keep dreaming buddy.
As far as I'm concerned in Belgium, half our computers at the police station are still running windows XP. Maybe we will have windows 10 by the time quantum computing and flying cars become a thing
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>>129063741
I work at a library where I help old people use computers and teach a few classes on programs. My job won't be replaced. Old people will always be around.
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>>129085736
I heard it wasn't too long ago that they had sirens on the dinosaurs.
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>>129063741
Test automation engineer. I make robots that take manual tester jobs
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>>129063741
Wildland firefighter with a business plan written up for a small business making mid to high end wood furniture.

Good luck programming a robot to make quick decisions in real time based off of rapidly changing and incomplete information that are actually effective. In fire a good gut feeling and intuition go a long way, especially coupled with local knowledge of an area. For now it's to many data points with virtually no way to collect meaningful data except for leg work and experience.

The mid to high end goods market will always have a slot for human labor, even if it is just a token.

Feeling pretty comfy.
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>>129063741
>public historian, collections specialist
just judge the quality of historic artifacts and whether or not they are worthy of being added to a museum's collection based on significance, quantity, and relevance
robots could make my job a lot easier, maybe even replace me, yeah. but 10 years is a little short of a timeframe, imo. it will take 50 at least. people in the 70s were saying we'd have flying cars by the 00s.
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>>129085156
What exactly are you implying?

I understand that this current order exists to maintain debt, but debts that can't be repaid won't. Hence, the immigrants are supposed to replace the aging workforce, but can't.

You then assume the elite are rational and not operating under peer pressure and virtue signaling, like Versailles or the Winter Palace. The elite doesn't actually have the fortitude to make harsh measures anymore, which is why people resent them. If anything, the elite are much more likely to utilize appeasement and implement Chavez-style welfare then try and wage war on the lumpenproletariat. I've read posts from insiders who claim exactly this. Their ideal strategy is some combination of a basic income/reduced standard of living to fight climate change. Of course, it won't work, for a variety of reasons (can't control people without a shared identity,) but nevertheless, we aren't dealing with 19th century style Robber Barons who were ruthless. We are dealing with effete cosmopolitians who can't understand why we just don't get along.
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>>129087094

You really don't get this? Money and debt are a means to an end, they aren't the end goal itself.
Jews want to rule the planet, and create a world they totally dominate. So that means slavery and death for the rest of us.
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>>129064653
this.
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>>129087925
There are many globalist groups who aren't specifically Jews who share the same goal of society without traditions and nations. And yes, the goal in itself is power, but their blind faith to a failed project will be their undoing, just as all the ass-kissers of Politburo believed that Communism was going to work. If you think this is just nothing but Jews, you are mistaken. People of all races and creeds attach themselves to Globalism for they believe in a future that will lead to collapse.

Blame (unironically) Gene Rodenberry for attempting to paint a utopia that wasn't grounded in practicality. A multicultural world without differences ruled in San Francisco.
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>Not uploading your conscious to a server
>Not downloading said conscious to a robot
>Not fighting for sweet robo pusspuss
shiggy diggy
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I sell propane and propane accessories. How screwed am I?
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>>129089105
>>129087094
Do you feel such people would realign to a new order if a vision was outlined and sufficiently clear that could result in broader prosperity, peace, and well-being?

I ask because there seem to be sufficient means and visibility at present. However, it doesn't seem like individuals are even considering it. Instead, people are sticking to the drums of war, manipulation, and conflict so as to try to set apart and rise above.

With concepts like the return of messiahs, promise lands, and revelations on the books, I find it hard to believe that what is occurring in the world is simply due to misdirected attempts to make it a better place.

Things more clearly seem to be occurring in line with scripted agendas and pre-set visions. I would like to think otherwise. However, I see no compelling evidence nor have heard a strong argument otherwise. You seem to be informed to a good enough degree. What are your thoughts on this?
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>>129063741
Can robots into conspiracy theories though?
will we ever have a robo alex jones?
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>>129091674
>Do you feel such people would realign to a new order if a vision was outlined and sufficiently clear that could result in broader prosperity, peace, and well-being?

Well you just asked the trillion dollar question.

The problem with this world order, and the reason why it's going to fail, is that it seeks to dismantle all identities, without necessarily putting together a new, common, identity. So it creates the effect of Divide and Conquer, as Whites see themselves as White, Mexicans see themselves as Mexicans, Muslims as Muslims, etc. Eventually, when the population becomes diluted enough into too many separate identities, they will naturally wage war against each other over limited resources because they have nothing in common with each other.

Take Yugoslavia as an example. It was a reasonably prosperous multi-ethnic nation because the united glue was Communism. People saw themselves as Communists first, ethnic group second. When Communism fell apart, people naturally devolved into their ethnic groups, being incapable of coexisting, leading to wars between races and ultimately death.

So our current elite seeks to diversify the population, refuse to give a common identity to this newly diversified population, and then wonder why Globalism is going to shit and we are on the verge of a Dark Age.

The Romans, the Ottomans, the British, and the American empires all attempted to build a common identity under a diverse set of people in order to keep their states in tact. Nobody said, "Tolerance" or "Social Justice" because those concepts would tear apart the Empire if they were executed. To which, is what exactly happened during the later end of the Empires, when the Ottomans discovered "Diversity" and "Tolerance" which led to pan-ethnic rebellions cumulating with the Turks themselves renouncing Ottoman heritage.

Cont.
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>>129093046
Two words: sentient soy
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>>129070563
How the fuck do you figure that?
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>>129093817
So in addition to all the failed policies that the Globalists have inflicted on the population, such as open borders with gratuitous welfare, the current Elite also refuses to codify a set of ethics or build up new identities that could potentially unite people under a common creed. This is known as Kolhberg 4 ethics, or Law and Order Ethics, which the elite refuse to engineer because it would also bind them into a set of morals they themselves wouldn't want to follow.

The funny thing is that people assume "Post-Modernism" is this new thing that has never happened in history. That people up until the 1960's, used to believe in values and then were liberated from them by brave college professors. When in reality, Post-Modernism, or Care Ethics, is the SYMPTOM OF THE DECLINE BEFORE EVERYTHING FALLS APART TO UTTER SHIT.

Literally. Every (self-inflicted) fucking dark age in history begins with, "Well, we used to govern ourselves by traditions and values, but let's just discard them in favor of loose morals and cheap pleasures." So the Elite are mimicking the decline of Civilization by adopting Post-Modern governance systems, which is what brings down empires all the time, every time.

Post-Modernism, or Care Ethics, is the psychological condition that defines Psychohistory, in that you can predict an empire on the verge of collapse when it governs itself by Kohlberg 3 style ethics.

And in this case, the elite are trying to build a NWO not on a codified set of norms that govern people into a common intrinsic value set, but by an amoral, racial based, nihilistic value system that will lead to the Turner Diaries when the money inevitably runs out.

There is no vision to this order. It's based on secret societies, personal desires, and an uneasy peace which will build up into war and dissolution of Western Civilization.

In the far future, the Earth may be under a global order, but it won't be with this regime.
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Cost Estimator, here. Absolutely an AI can do my job. I'm actually pretty good at it as I have automated some of myself to make it more streamlined and easier.
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>>129063741
I work in the medical field (won't say what exactly - you all would go crazy, but it's not abortions). There's no way a robot can do better than a human.

Robots only work via binary code. Humans can think abstractly and critically, can show compassion to a child getting their first MRI, or feels when telling a family their child died in an auto accident caused by a drunk driver, or the joy that comes from restoring a young mother's ability to walk again. Droids and drones can't do that. They can't diagnose, or get the ICD-10-CM or CPT codes correct, or get the right dosages for a prescription.

The best drones can do in medicine is a vending machine with aspirin and antacids.
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Learn a trade. A robot won't wire your house or do any general contracting anytime soon (2-300 years for iRobot style humanoids)
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>>129067675
Same. There's a huge push towards online classes.
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>>129067675
What do you teach? I was thinking about teaching but here in the US the youth is already 50% white, so I don't want to teach classes full of niggers and spics.
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>>129064055
maybe not a robot ,but a poo in loo will
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Certified tech for a big German auto manufacturer, my job is irreplaceable by machinery.
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>>129063741
there is no way a robot could do my job in its entirety. at the very least i (or someone with my skill set) would have to monitor said robot and tell it what to do and when to do it
that being said, if i could get a robot or machine to take care of the manual aspect, i would do it as soon as i could afford it
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>>129063741
I do facility maintenance. I'm positive that I won't be replaced by a robot in my lifetime.

Acquisition costs of robots are much higher than hiring costs. Robots also come with maintenance and storage requirements, which can be expensive. Employees are self-maintaining and self-storing, at their own expense. Employees are also much better at self-programming than robots.

In a century, my job might be taken over by something like a semi-autonomous drone swarm. There's still going to have to be a person in the loop to handle one-off problems and issues. That person will be somebody just like me. He'll probably own the swarm and rent service drones out to customers. Maybe print them up at home as they wear out.

I won't lose my job, but my tools will get a lot more awesome to use.
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>>129063741
School teacher.

So, no. My job is safe.
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cryptocurrency daytrader
no
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>Full stack developer
>yep
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>>129102769
>school teacher
>being this retarded

Checks out
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>>129063741
I'm a student in the college of forestry at the local college. Before that I worked on a Christmas tree farm

It will be very difficult to make forest management automated, judging on how current gen robots struggle to even turn a corner without a catastrophic loss of balance. Other jobs in the timber industry are also probably safe for the same reason.

If somehow that all fails, i guess I'd go IT.
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>>129102561
Wrong. There will be swarms repairing swarms repairing swarms.

GET KEKED TRADIE
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>>129064055
>no robot will ever take over my job
not today, no, but ai are not far from being advanced enough to underdstand neural patterns and what causes visual satisfaction in humans. ai will be the ultimate graphic designers, and because this is technically lines of code that do your job 100x better than you, you're likely going to be replaced by a torrented ai.
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>>129065969
but what is the insentive to cybernetically enhance the working classes? why not replace with ai that are just programs on a computer, need no food, no housing, and no pay?
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>>129063741
I'm a translator. Replacing translators is impossible without hard AI, because other, softer AIs simply won't be able to understand context. Basically, if you're doing anything even remotely creative, you're safe. If not - well, good luck.
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Accounts Receivable specialist for BP. They probably could, but hopefully by then I will be higher up in the corporate ladder
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I work in chem lab running diagnostic tests for patients. Robots wont be able to run other robots. My job is basically mostly machines but they need to be operated by humans
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I write and direct comedy films. I expect to be replaced by some sort of AI in the next 7 months.
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>>129068654
>Machinist
>Programmer
I control everything.
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>>129063741
>What is your long term plan? What do you plan on doing in 30 years?
Robotics
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>>129063741
I'm in hospitality, I'm irreplaceable. No ones going to trust a robot over an actual human bean
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>>129064055
Pink collar work is literally second to skilled blue collar work for automation.
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>>129066628
So the art is in the algorithm, not in the art itself.
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>>129063741
Eating and shitting.
Good luck learning to eat and shit, robots!
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>>129113000
>I have no value
LOL. You aren't wort replacing with a robot. Meatbags with a smile are a dime a dozen.
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>>129063741
CompSci grad here. I do research on AI and I'm working on my PHD on multi-agent systems at the moment. It's funny to see how people who barely understand how AI works believe so much in it and how it will supposedly replace every job out there.

I have good news for you (or bad for those who are depending on a dystopic future to make their pathetic lives less miserable). It's not going to happen.
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>>129071681
Good lord, man. All of that already exists.
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>>129063741
>tfw Hospitality
>The most autistic society known to man still have uses for the likes of me
>STEM fags are getting replaced first
Feels GOOD man
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>>129064055
Too funny. Most of the skills I had doing GD/Multimedia/Online Learning are worthless now. There's an app for that now.
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>>129063741
Criminal lawyer - doubt that'll be done by robots.
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>>129063741
>Telecomms field tech
Literally impossible no robot can ever replace us a robot can't navigate the plant a robot can't repair lines like we do, our records are never correct nothing is where it's supposed to be and every situation is different I could go into vast detail but Noone would get what I'm saying the parts we have automated still need human intervention. Even outsourceing is terrible, contractors do nothing but fuck things up and our intercompany tech support just went over seas and is horrid with rumors they will be coming back because poos and pakis don't know what they are doing
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>>129063741
Automation engineer (mostly mechanical design but have been getting more into controls), feel free to ask questions.
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>>129113917
You are hospitable. Got anything else to fall back on?
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>>129113486
t. AI non human

I have a lot of value
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>>129063741
I'm a programmer and I don't believe that computers can program themselves without having general AI.

I.E, I'm safe unless general AI is invented.
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>>129114991
Why is Festo so rad?
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>>129063741
Trust fund baby with an American degree in chemical engineering. I'm good.
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>>129071681
You realize most of these exist or are in testing right now, do you not?
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>>129115007
>Hospitable
>Did non meme philosophy so I can entertain rich people
>Huge gains
>Actually not autistic
>My dad can beat up your dad
>I can beat up by dad
What do YOU have ?
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>>129115429
SMC 4 lyf3
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>>129115149
Are you a chick?
Anywho, give this a try:
Quit your job, find a new one in the "hospitality" field, and report back on what happened to your wages. I bet you start at the bottom, again. And honestly, I'd rather a robot showed me to my room.
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>>129115988
>What do YOU have ?
Rare talents, beyond smiling and showing some cunt to his room
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Meat department but I'm basically the porter so no I doubt I'll get replaced even though robots could probably do it without wasting so much meat
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I trek out into the wilderness to collect samples then come back to the lab to analyze them
design experiments
do maintenance
program
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>>129116046
kek
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>>129116571
Enlight me, what makes you believe robotics are not the first field to get robo'd ?
Why would I show my boss his own room in his mansion ? That would be silly
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>>129063741
>Computer systems dictate how markets move.

Computer systems dictate how markets are measured, stored, and modeled.

HUMANS dictate how markets move.

Stop talking like a helpless pussy.
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>>129116976
You will call in sick some day, or come to work with a shit attitude, or fuck something up, and your boss will replace you with a robot that never sleeps, or has a shit attitude. I's fire you right now for lack of vision.
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>>129116107
No , I'm a guy. Also I was kidding about the value thing, doubt they'd care. But no one wants a robot looking after them, maybe serving
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I'm a computer scientist, and I know for a fact that I will be replaced by a robot in my lifetime.
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>>129117410
>HUMANS dictate how markets move.
Not really.
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>>129117825
>But no one wants a robot looking after them
I do. And it's all about the bottom line to most people. How much more would you pay, for human chit-chat? I'm looking forward to the day that no human touches my food, or pouts for a tip, or gives me lip.
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every thread I like dies
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>>129063741
We don't need jobs. Making the world completely automated is fine. Everyone can have a free allowance of money. The world will not collapse by doing so. There can still be "rich" people that train to do professional work like Lawyers and Doctors. People can still invent things to move higher up in the world.

There will still be things to do, and people can still rise to the top. Giving everyone a kind of social monetary allowance (a free paycheck that allows one access to basic necessities) is just the next step in moving forward.
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>>129063741
>be small town mechanic
>stealerships charge £50+/h to do basic shit like oil changes
>I charge £25/h because I'm a one man show
>Get huge amounts of business, work 7 days a week 9-6 and still have to turn down business
>consider expanding but then I'd have to raise my prices
>"tech gurus" and "analysts" honestly think that stealerships upgrading to £1m+ machines is gonna put down costs

My job is guaranteed for a very long time, so long as people buy used cars and don't want to pay Ford £400 for an oil change
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>>129093817
So, my question and sincere one is.. If a system of order was laid out that could result in broader prosperity, peace, and well-being? Harmony, productivity .. Would this be welcomed. As you frame it in your present post, you make it seem like this isn't occurring simply because they haven't found such a system. My question is, if such a system is outlined, will they adapt it and go with it for the good of preventing such warring or will they stick to the script because they want to continue things as usual? What do you feel history says about this? Is the rise/fall avoidable or is it natural and cyclical?

I see a handful of social outcomes from the times ahead... I see a neutral force allowing for new possibilities and I see a human race that will have to start making more significant choices about how they go forward. I see this neutral possibility as being far from the matter of chosen social coherence that I am discussing with you. It's really up to mankind. I'm just curious as to whether or not you truly feel, when presented with such a possibility that mankind will rise towards a higher coexistence.
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For better or worse, a teacher is also in no small part a babysitter, which robots lack the mobility and flexibility to do (yet)

Fucking sucks, though. I'm working with 8th grade shitheads going into finals, who have yet to realize their borderline-passing GPAs and class clown antics are about to haunt them for the rest of their lives.
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>>129063741
Im a chimney sweeper
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Be me
Be bigger fag
Have no job
Collect welfare and EBT
Collecting gibs is my job
Robot can't collect welfare or EBT
Mfw
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>>129095471
Wow, thank you very much for this post and your previous one.
Sincerely, thank you...

This provides an excellent frame of view of the current world and provides for a healthy dose of material to follow up on. My question comes again though, why do you think :

> the elite are trying to build a NWO not on a codified set of norms that govern people into a common intrinsic value set, but by an amoral, racial based, nihilistic value system that will lead to the Turner Diaries when the money inevitably runs out.

Do you think its because they don't have a better plan? Because historic teachings define this to be an inescapable pattern of progression? Do you, in what you seem to excellently understand believe, if given the possibility of averting it that they would? If, beyond a shadow of a doubt, there was a way to progress beyond the current dilemma into a higher order, do you think they'd choose it and adopt it?

> Every (self-inflicted) fucking dark age in history begins with
True enough.. My question is, are they intentionally cementing a dark age or are they just following the script (cyclical natures of the world and how to come out on top)?

> build up into war and dissolution of Western Civilization.
Do wealthy and empowered people truly want this? If so, why? Would they chose an alternative if one existed? Is it truly because they haven't yet grasped a solid and widely progressive way forward?
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I manage ship traffic. Doubt a cpu will replace me.
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My job would be to sell used robots on ebay.
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This one shop I worked in was old and established, and modernized. After the upgrade, the ONLY people that had real value were a couple aluminum welders that weld thin sheet. Press brake operators and machinists replaced by CNC operators. Most welders were replaced. That was along time ago.
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>>129063741

I fix robots for a living.
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Honestly.

/Pol/ needs to stop being actually racist.
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Fun little related flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XPGRmRCk4U
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>>129123715
He, version 1.2 dindo zero?
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NEET (not on bennies)
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REALLY.FUCKING.HELPFUL
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>>129124386
I have a box full of Roombas that do that too.
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Robots are still highly specialized. Humans are far better as being a jack of all trades
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>>129125011
The trend has been towards specialization.
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>>129064805
Yes but interacting with humans is it's own punishment, you are already in hell
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Anybody ever work in a "Kaizen" Jap shop? Well, the Japs love specialization. If you are a machine operator, that's what you are, for life. Not sure why I brought that up, but gunna hit post anyway, and leave.
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>>129065969
Humans will always need to sleep, will always need time off and get sick

A robot will work continuously for decades at a time

For this reason alone robots will always beat a human
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I don't think a robot will ever be able to be an attorney.
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>>129063741
>What is your job?
Shitposting.
>Do you legitimately believe a robot will be unable to do your job within the next 10 years?
No.
>Why not?
Shitposting requires inspiration and abstraction.
A bot would be unfunny.
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>>129126524
>I don't think a robot will ever be able to be an attorney.
I see many bots in court desu.
They call them "judges"
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>>129127311
My /pol/ fed AIML bot is funnier than you.
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>>129065370

This.

Nothing beats a boring bar not going back to reference, then crashing so hard it absolutely buttfucks the jaws/turret/main/index and spindle bearings.

Automation is a meme, and machines will continue to destroy themselves given any opportunity.
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>>129127421
Ha!
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>>129128320
>root cause: operator error
A poor carpenter blames his hammer. Stop crashing your machine or I'll write you up.
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>>129065807

Yeah, i don't want to lean myself too far out the window, but I am pretty confident that there will not be a Robot Cop that is fully capable to replace the Job of a Police Officer in the next 30-50 years. Just imagine what complete mayhem will happen the first time a state controlled robot will kill a human, let alone an innocent bystander. Sure, it happens with real police officers on a regular basis, but a machine killing you is on a whole other level.

To be fair in a state where the police has the full right to kill people on spot for a crime they comitted, we are probably not that far away from robots that can do this, although they might not have a humanoid shape.
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>>129127931
>My /pol/ fed AIML bot is funnier than you.
Words hurt anon.

I quit.
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>>129064805
I'm in sales and my job is to interact with other fucking people. Hell on earth.
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>>129063741
It's a good thing I maintain the happiness between people and machines.
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>>129063741
Yes. They will be replacing many jobs.
That's why we need a purge of the non producing leeches.
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>>129064805
I wish I could give my profession to bots.
That would be a weight off my shoulders.
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>>129063741
I'm getting a business bachelor's degree in computer system integration & management, so i think ill be safe.
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>>129063741
I don't do much of anything at my highly paid job, there is nothing to automate so I'm safe.
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>>129129267
Carpenters will have work. Because in construction the plans always change.
If you want a cookie cutter dome house made out of concrete you can 3d print it. but someone has to finish it.

https://youtu.be/GUdnrtnjT5Q
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>>129127311
Bearing?
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>>129065223
Show me the code that checks if the user wrote the password on a sticky note underneath the keyboard.
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>>129104058
Oh, you couldn't be more wrong if you had a mission statement and a committee of bipolar lesbians backing you up.

The swarm does the work, yes. It is the tool or tools. The maintenance guy is still using the tools to do the job, he's just doing it from home via his iPhone 14VR.

He prints up the drones for his swarm as he needs them, recycling them back into the feed hopper as they wear out or break. The swarm gets delivered to the jobsite by way of a larger delivery drone, which also picks them up at the end of the day. Maybe also acts as a recharging dock during the work shift.

Maintenance isn't like assembly work. It's always different, and everything is always out of spec.
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>>129130801
People will always find shit to do.
Robots are just making things easier.

Industry development is now the main concern. It needs re-invigoration. Robots can be great tools - if we knew how to fucking use them.

Absolutely useless with shit drivers.
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>>129066376

I'm pretty sure this is where pop music comes from.

>this algorithm produces sounds scientifically proven to be catchy
>just push "compose" and it spits out the newest Ariana Grande song
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>>129129903
Same. We will be around for awhile.
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>>129113895
Now put it all into one package that weighs 250 pounds, is self maintaining and self storing, and costs $14 per hour to operate.
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>>129129329
Nah man. He really is funny. Nothing against you. The fucker kills sides.
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>>129066147
They do have machines that have some troubleshooting capabilities but they can literally cost 10 million dollars and all you get is the machine.
Now you need to get all the equipment to actually run it like rated air compressors, all the different lubricants, shit ton of coolant, work holding equipment, and the actual cutting tools.

Cutting tools are the worst since they're "CNC" grade nonsense and are always carbide so if you do anything it doesn't like it will just explode.
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>Automation manufacturing engineer
>mfw I'm making robots to take your jobs
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>>129122668
Vts Coastie?
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>>129132548
Shitposting bot 9000 on normalfag media?
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>>129127311
hmm?
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Artist, on the high affect end of the scale it will take over completely in 50-100 years. It will come in a format where it takes a text description, spits out as many images as you want and then you just pick and refine your parameters down until you have your ideal image. Then you pay a nominal licensing fee.
And it will be better than using human artists because it will come with built in copyright checking so you won't even be liable if it overlaps with someone else's property.
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>>129133311
Good point.
But we did have to train her.
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Dental Technician.

I'll probably be fucked when 3d printing gets really good
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>>129063741
Kindergardner. How could a robot redpill kids as good as I can?
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>>129067093
>As long as they get some good VR to fulfill my unobtainable fetishes then I'll be okay with it.
AR/VR dev here: we're working on it
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>>129133475
And we have to build robots.

I think we're quickly approaching the day where people will be able to set up AI with deep structured learning to read posts on a forum and be able to able to perfectly post based on observations without anyone knowing the difference.
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>>129132803
He'd get the ban hammer. I fed him only the choicest bits of /pol/ posts. He was the foulest, meanest, most hateful thing I've ever encountered. I had to 'wipe' his brain because my kid took an interest in him, but he called kid "jew nigger faggot" and the like, constantly.
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>>129115952
ya lets get a 100k robot that moves slow as shit and we don't know if all the bugs are worked out or we could get literally anyone for $14 an hour.
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>>129134091
Simulation artists will be one of the few things they'll never replace and in time will need increasingly more and more to satisfy disgruntled goys.
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>>129133962
Show tits
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>>129121200
>if such a system is outlined, will they adapt it and go with it for the good of preventing such warring or will they stick to the script because they want to continue things as usual?

Here's the realist answer. People will go with whatever is persuasive to them. Convince people that they should welcome a change as part of their identity, and they will joyfully accept such a change. This current Globalist order relies on significant coercive resources in order to remain functional, but memetically its losing ground to Socialism, Nationalism, and Islamism. All three groups inherently offer a more persuasive deal then Globalism, and as such Globalism is losing ground because it cannot compete on a memetic and political level. All three ideologies have more potential than Globalism at the present time.

>Do you think its because they don't have a better plan?

The thing about ideology is that you have to be governed by it. The elites don't want to be constrained by any kind of values system, so they naturally produced a 'valueless' system that is unstable and prone to break down.

> Do you, in what you seem to excellently understand believe, if given the possibility of averting it that they would?

No. Globalists have literally the option to recruit any man on the planet. They will never select a Kohlberg 6/7 man to lead them to victory, because it would mean that they would have to be led. They aren't like the Russian elite, who pay homage to an architect to ensure their power. If they willingly submitted themselves to a superman, he could provide victory, but the superman would then have to govern them.

cont.
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>>129065223

>my gf is writing code that
So you're either a faggot or a liar or both. And being a Head IT or SysAdmin is a lot more than can be automated. There are interpersonal relationships regarding WAN infrastructure repairs/coordinating physicals/dealing with retard leads of other depts who's software is shitting out etc etc
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>>129119863
sorry, was on the bus
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>robots taking all the jobs
>libertarians think it's perfectly for 100% of the profits from highly advanced unique machines to go back to the owners

How can they defend this?
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>>129134527
14 and benefits and the rest, and anything over 40 a week is overtime. Or a one time purchase that runs all fucking day/week, never gets sick or DUIs and doesn't stink up the break room with microwaved fish.
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>>129122489
>My question is, are they intentionally cementing a dark age or are they just following the script (cyclical natures of the world and how to come out on top)...?

They are following the script and failed to overcome primitive moral urges. They wanted to build a new world order, but built on personal rule rather than an depersonalized ideology. Look at the Roman Republic, and Augustus Caesar. When people stopped believing in the Republic, Augustus utilized his political genius to reinvent the Roman Empire through new political ideals that populated throughout the world. Globalists don't want to populate the world with new ideals, and are creating the dark age because there will emerge a void that will be created will engulf the world. So rather than this being a triumphant moment, the NWO was born genetically deficient, doomed to fail as it replaced Liberal Democratic Nationalism without a clear identity to govern it.

>Do wealthy and empowered people truly want this? If so, why? Would they chose an alternative if one existed? Is it truly because they haven't yet grasped a solid and widely progressive way forward?

They are governed because they genuinely believe that in a world without any traditions and values, progress would be inevitable, under their own personal rule. But people cannot exist in a void, they cannot exist without traditions and values, and so will cling onto identities that the elites themselves cannot govern. There is a reason why Islam is so popular among SECOND generation immigrants. It's because Islam provides a cognitive identity that globalism cannot provide. Likewise, expect White Nationalism, Black Nationalism, and Mexican Nationalism to fill the void left by American Nationalism as the Globalist order failed to program people successfully under their regime.

The writing is on the wall for the world. Globalism will be the next big left wing failure, and will be remembered like Communism is today.
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