Just a stupid analysis

France
- looks surrender monkey on paper
- looks niggerstan in reality

>>129059501
>French military
>Wave flags that look like paper

Estonia
- looks annexed by Russia on a map
- relies on the sprat industry in reality

>>129059501

capitalism:
- looks good on paper
- is good in reality

Hahaha you stupid assholes command and conquer is a documentary

>>129060362

I'd rather say (to my opinion)

capitalism:
- looks meh on paper
- is meh in reality

socialism:
- looks meh on paper
- is meh in reality

and so on and so on for every centrist ideologies pretty much

>>129059501
putain de retardé tu pense que sans état les gens vont juste arreté de se tuer
>>129059843
a another retarded rosbeef

>>129061236
Euh, développe?

>>129061530
tu pense vraiment que tout le monde a bon fond

>>129062078
non

>>129061186

think about it dude

300 years of capitalism and humans are able to communicate with anyone anywhere on Earth through invisible waves bouncing in space

the capitalist incentives to pursue innovation is the greatest thing to happen to mankind, the structural inequality and other issues that arise out of this system is just something we gotta try to iron out

the goal is to optimize this innovation centric mode of production while adhering to some humanitarian set of constraints, we might be really close or really off it's hard to tell

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>>129062822
the internet and telephone were invented by military and non-profit scientists, not corporations
>muh capitalism

try again with your shilling, goldstein

>>129062822
I absolutely agree with you. Capitalism has permited an industrial revolution and countless innovations that have beneficiated to our lives and humankind in general.

It is however that same capitalism which spawned neoliberalism, which is bringing danger upon humanity not by the innovations produced but by the way they are used.

I am not only talking about increasing global inequality, but first and foremost the destruction of the environment which permitted humanity to live and appear on the first place.

Thus, capitalism isn't good nor bad, a necessary step to other ways of organising society and consuming but just a step.

>>129063217

in the context of the cold war, with funding from a capitalist government, inside universities immersed in a capitalist system

science has benefited immensely from capitalism, more than in any other system

>>129063616

as I see it the unaccountability of the environment in our economic logic really is the biggest flaw in the current capitalist system

it's unexplainable how assets like coral reefs and the amazon forest, which play vital roles in regulating our ecosystems, allowing for the smooth continuation of agro-extractivist activities, is simply unnacounted for

fortunately there are groups of economists working these problems but it seems the world lacks leaders with enough courage to take it seriously

>France

>>129059501
>Fascism is bad
You don't even know what fascism is

>>129059501
>Anarchism
>is good in reality
Literally how

>>129065757
Almost everyone who's lived through fascism will agree that it's bad. Wannabe fascists don't know what they're getting themselves into.

>>129066168
somalias gdp has increased since it became anarchist

statists btfo

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Transhumanism:
>looks good on paper
>is good in reality

>>129066442
>gdp has increased
So has the GDP of a lot of countries with governments
Learn to statistics

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>>129067140
>a commie lecturing me about statistics

Your average AnCap actually knows about economics, unlike commies who know nothing.

Now get in my helicopter

>>129066416
You don't even know what fascism IS dickweed.

>>129067332
>AnCaps
>anarchists
Traditional anarchists (Bakunin, Chomsky, etc) reject capitalism, m8.

>>129066889

Well, transhumanism is kinda like the nuclear bomb. Just a scientific innovation that will potentially be re-used politically for anything.

And to those who say I don't know what fascism is, I did read Mein Kampf so to speak. I know you want me to read the Bell Curve though.

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>>129067925
>(((Traditional anarchists)))

mfw this "ancom" (codeword for marxist) hasn't even read hoppe

>>129066442
Also African governments are useless anyway, so it wouldn't make much of a difference either way. Somalia probably also gets s lot of gibs from cucked countries. Don't confuse anarchism in nigger countries and non-nigger countries.

>>129068372
Anarchists are basically Marxists, just without dictatorship of the proletariat and with the state abolished at the same time as capitalism.

>>129068850
Disagreeing with the dictatorship of the proletariat is disagreeing with one of the key ideas of marxism, so you don't really stay Marxist in that case.

You can potentially stay Marxian though, which means being in agreement with Marx's observations and the tools he used to comment capitalism.

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>>129059501
Why has there never been a succesful anarchist society then?

France:
-looks good on paper
-is surrender to reality

>>129069746
There was plenty of experiments which did succeed, the most famous one being Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War.

They functionned pretty well as societies, but it's on the international scene that they were always crushed by states.

>>129059501
Fascism is good.

Tell me, have you ever been to Somalia? Because it's what anarchy looks like. There is no state there.

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>>129070239
>the most famous one being Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War
>but it's on the international scene that they were always crushed by states
Ergo, they are failures. The inability to defend yourself against foreign invaders is not the sign of a successful nation.

no goverment based on any kind of ideology is any good. goverments served to unify the will of the people into a conquering force but today it is not so. democracy may have stopped the constant warfare but we are in a vegetative state basically currently. no will to do anything.
this shit needs to be broken down into the lowest common denominator, resources. frankly, people in goverment is and always will be imperfect, therefore we need to create some kind of self-learning AI with a mandate to protect us from ourselves (without actually killing us like the reapers)

>>129059501
>anarchism - a literal nigger free-for-all
>good
choose one

>>129059501
>average day in anarchist society
>"hey guys I like pineapple on pizza"
>"fuck you we do not allow that kind of thinking here"
>get raped and then killed for liking pineapple on pizza because of pineapple-hating cult

>>129059501
You're right in saying it's stupid.

>>129059501
Statism:
- looks good on paper
- is benefical in reality

Competley Free Market
- good on paper
- not very good in real life

>>129071706
Anarchy
- looks bad in reality
- there is no paper

fixed*

>>129070239
>short lived examples in closed, small communities

>>129071706
Statism is only good when you're a nigger needing a governmental intervention to force others to give you what you shouldn't have in the first place because you can't buy it with money you earned honestly.

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>>129059501
I have a question why is fascism bad in practice?

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>>129070858
>>129072152
You would probably also need to have a homogeneous society for it to have a remote chance of working. When you have different racial groups with different IQs trying to coexist, hierarchy will always emerge. And when you look at modern anarchists like antifa, they want to let all the niggers in and destroy borders.

>>129067491
I very nearly went full 1488 before I realized how retarded it actually is.

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>>129072923
Tends not to last beyond a single leader, even in the examples where they weren't taken down by foreign powers. Ignoring Hitler and Mussolini, we still have Franco, Salazar, and Peron, who while good leaders, failed to keep the system going after their deaths.

>>129072923
Fascism is literally for sheeple who don't want freedom, classical liberalism as in America and Adam Smith is the best system imo

>>129072453
>social contract
or you could go back into the jungle and shag the rest of your nigger ladies then get killed for doing so

>>129063616
Capitalism eats itself and won't beat socialism if the economic growth is meager and the highest educated workforce in the history of mankind is unsatisfied and jobless. Also, no incentive to be an enterpreneur if only a few corporations with their managerial elite reign supreme.

>>129074468
>tfw society collapses and turns into feudalism because a buisness owner armed his workers

>>129059501
communism looks good on paper from the moon

>>129061236
On dit attardé en français mais sinon je suis d'accord

>>129059501
quick correction

fascism works good in reality and on paper,
anarchism does not and will never work

>>129074733
> Implying I signed a paper with lefticucks when I was born
There is no such thing as social contract. I'm authoritarian, but not socialist.
The ideology of statism considers that nothing exists outside the state and everything should rightfully be controlled by the state.

This is nigger philosophy.

>>129059501
Anarchism realise on people not being Cunts ....
We cant even agree on the big stuff

I've more or less read your posts, your comments on anarchism are worth a say. I won't say Somalia is a good example of anarchy, as there is also the presence of chaos and third world misery.

But defending fascism? After everything it brought upon us?

Except highways, fascism can go back to the trash of history.

We don't need white supremacy. Not everybody is white and the concept of race is void in science.

We don't need alt-right spookcucks replacing political correctness by any other form of censorship.

We don't need Jews to be scapegoated for everything.

We don't need rightists who pretend to defend freedom from marxist state opression while supporting the opression of "niggers".

The fact you use the word "nigger" is proof you don't even care about freedom.

Gamergate ruined you well, it's good to hear the opinions of the alt-right in order to open your mind but having it monopolise /pol/ is unbearing. I hope one day we'll have the diversity of opinions which is necessary.

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>>129080375
>I won't say Somalia is a good example of anarchy, as there is also the presence of chaos and third world misery.
>anarchism isn't anarchism when it doesn't bring the results I want

>>129059501
Monarchy

-Looks good on paper -Is good in reality

>>129060362
>>129059501
What if we...
>Put anarchism and capitalism together

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>>129080375
>The fact you use the word "nigger" is proof you don't even care about freedom.

>>129080861
It is anarchism. But failed anarchism. Can't you look at examples where anarchism succeeded in order to expand your mind and end your constant negativity?

>>129080375
>thinking statists can think
The collar chokes them.

>>129080375
You're new on /pol, aren't you?

White supremacy is another term for white pride. Yes we need whites to be proud of being white, and refusing to be genocided out of existence on the altar of multiculti.

Censorship is a good thing, considering the degenerate media and the effects of their lies on public opinion. Macron is a great example. Not so long ago, in France, we had only 1 TV channel and a ministery of propaganda. France was experiencing the biggest economic boom in its history (read C'était De Gaulle).

Jews are responsible for the subversion of the society. The great replacement is due to them (Simone Veil and her law in France, jewish owned media...)

Niggers belong to Africa and white men belong to Europe. I don't advocate their oppression, I advocate not having any relation whatsoever with them.

I give everyone the presumption of freedom, but when evidence proves they are using it to do harm, they should be stopped. After that, you are free to mind your business.

(((diversity of opinion))). Yeah, sure.

On /pol/ only truth gets traction.

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>>129080375
>We don't need Jews to be scapegoated for everything.
Correct, but they own the federal reserve. They own the media who pushes bullshit on innocent children. They are responsible for the zionist wars. They can be blamed for that, but not everything.

>>129081395
Yes, indeed, you don't care about their freedom to have at least some dignity, don't you ?

>>129081642
Yeah probably.

>>129080375
Found the cuck

>But defending fascism? After everything it brought upon us?
As opposed to everything communism and """""democracy""""" have brought upon us?
>We don't need white supremacy. Not everybody is white and the concept of race is void in science.
Google Lewontin's fallacy
>We don't need Jews to be scapegoated for everything.
Yet you probably are fine with scapegoating white men for everything

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>>129080375
>Not everybody is white
That is exactly why we need an ethnostate
>the concept of race is void in science.
Pic related

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>>129081588
But there are no examples where anarchy succeeded.

>>129059501
>Anarchy
>Good
ok just hand me your wallet and I won't shoot you where you stand

>>129059501
I've a question. How is anarcho-communism?

>>129081588
Nature hates void. Anarchy is a void of rules. You regret the experiences of anarchy didn't last long, so basically you regret void is filled very quickly when it appears.

>>129059501
You almost got it right, but you need to switch fascism and anarchism.

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>>129082370
>you don't care about their freedom to have at least some dignity
I respect blacks having a right to their ethnostate. I agree with everything in pic related. Saying "nigger" is just a fun way to give a big middle finger to media kikes.

>>129082753
No it's not, you petty dipshit. Anarchy is void of ruleRs. In reality, utopic for everyone but those who want to wipe their feet on others, who quickly find themselves dead.

>>129082019

Why do we need white proud? This is what I'm asking. There's no question of erasing the concept of white race because the concept of race is a concept that has no meaning scientifically speaking.

Seriously, I do not see the point in considering that because you were born with a certain skin colour you deserve to be assigned to a specific region of the globe and not interact with so-called other races. Humans don't interact like that.

I personally think the manipulation in the media is real, and I do not like Macron. Not because they are part of a secret jewish conspiracy, but because they are openly in favor of neoliberal globalisation which increases worldwidly economic inequalities and destroys the environement.

8 billionaires control the media in France. They don't really care about communicating "cultural marxist" values, they only care about money and making more money out of the people who then elect pro-business candidates.

And if France had an economic boom back then, it wasn't thanks to censorship but thanks to the larger context of a rebuilding of industry after WWII, and lots of other things such as the Marshall plan, etc...

>>129082583
The Pashtun don't seem to be doing so bad after all these years.

>>129083828
>concept of race is a concept that has no meaning scientifically speaking.

So how is it that they can predict your race by looking at your genetics?

>>129083828
>Humans don't interact like that.
What is white flight?

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>>129084043
If anarchy means becoming a 3rd world Islam ruled shithole like the middle east then I'm gonna pass on that.

>>129083828
>race has no meaning scientifically speaking

Humans aren't chimps, know why? Because we evolve complex societal systems. Know who doesn't evolve complex societal systems? Blacks.

>>129084368
What if it doesn't and you're just too cucked to having a daddy figure to know otherwise?

>>129084337

They predict something which is not your race. They predict your physical attributes, which are defined by those of your parents, but don't regroup people that seem alike into the same "race". People from different parts of the world can indeed look alike without having the same presumed descent.

White flight is an interesting phenomena indeed, which does also need to be replaced in a socio-economic context, not only racial

>>129061186
>capitalism
>meh in reality
we literally live like kings compared to our ancestors. you can't comprehend the technological progress that has occurred and how good we have it now.

>>129080912
/thread

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>>129085005
>They predict something which is not your race. They predict your physical attributes, which are defined by those of your parents, but don't regroup people that seem alike into the same "race". People from different parts of the world can indeed look alike without having the same presumed descent.
No, they predict your race.

>>129085005
>White flight is an interesting phenomena indeed, which does also need to be replaced in a socio-economic context, not only racial
Everywhere in the world, with every culture, with every economic context, we see that people in general have a preference for being around people who are like them. Racially, culturally, etc.
The only time this is violated is when there is a monetary incentive, or when you play one value against the other.

>>129084571
Land suitable to agriculture, geography in general and a bit of luck made white men achieve more advanced societies than black men. They're not chimps, they're humans who didn't achieve what others have achieved. But it's knowledge to be shared I think.

>>129059501
anarchism is pushed by commies and socialists mostly

libertarian capitalism or anarcho capitalism have the greatest chances of working

>>129074868
holy shit the amount drivel you just wrote. i bet it sounded really good in your head.

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>>129059501

>>129086177
Just repeated what Schumpeter said.

>>129085917
Africa has every type of climate. Plenty of farmland, fuel, minerals, rare earths, etc. but the people never became anything but mud hut dwellers.
Have you ever read peace corps stories of trying to help Africans? You can't.

>>129085830

>No, they predict your race.
The image you've shown predicts geographical origins, without any concerns related to concrete physical attributes. And how would you call someone from a native american dad and an east asian mother? Somebody with a race on his own?

>Everywhere in the world, with every culture, with every economic context, we see that people in general have a preference for being around people who are like them. Racially, culturally, etc.
The only time this is violated is when there is a monetary incentive, or when you play one value against the other.
Well, fundamentally, there's nothing wrong about that, as long as it doesn't become discriminatory and that understanding is promoted. I mean, everybody has the right to live where they want.

>communism looks good on paper

>muh bourgious muh prole muh means of production muh materialism muh labor everybody gets the minimum and your ability doesn't matter

on paper communism is literally antithetical to the natural order of humanity and biology itself

Well, I need a good night's rest after that ^^'

I'm honestly glad to have come out of my comfort zone to talk to you guys. It expanded my mind and opened me to other horizons.

I know you probably consider me a utopist bluepilled nigger-loving globalist humanist cuck, but i don't really care about that. Thanks for the discussion

Every government system looks good on paper. It means literally nothing.

>Direct Democracy: oh, nice we all get a say in everything, mayority is always right
Representative democracy: oh same as above but streamlined, awesome
>Communism: noone is poor noone is rich everyone is upper middle class healthy and happy and noone lacks anything in life
Capitalism: rich get richer and by doing to create infinite jobs for the poorer who also get richer becaise of this
Eventually everyone is well off assuming they arent lazy
>Anarchism: there is no government to control us, we act like all the other wild earths creatures, and just like we were meant to act, we dont need no authority, we are our own authority and noone else is
And so on and so on

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>>129059501
Anarchy needs to be won by figghts on the streets. yes, fights, the people in power don't like it when there is no chance to win back their power.

to win fights anginst ordered units (the police) you need leadership

anarchy is anti leadership

well done, you played yourself

>>129086398
do you even realize how outdated your arguments sound?

>>129080912
>wanting to be ruled by people with (((royal blood)))

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>>129083828
Races exist. Deal with it.

If you believe in the theory of evolution, then you believe in race.

There is no evidence that 2 groups of people that lived separated geographically for a long period of time wouldn't evolve differently.
Since the "Out of Africa" theory was proven wrong once and for all recently, we separated with the other races a long time ago. Hence we are different races, with different subsets of genes and of behaviours, cognitive capacities... It's pure facts.

Now, do you know the name of Macron's counsellors? The people that made him?
I'll tell you: Jacques Attali, Alain Minc, Patrick Drahi among others. If you don't see the pattern, I'll tell you: they are all jews.

When I was in HEC, Attali came and made a conference, very fond of himself, explaining to everyone that in life you should have a plan for where you will be in 20 years.

He said it, I think you can find the conference on youtube.

These people think exactly like that: what Attali says and does is very coherent, he has a well-thought plan, and he happens to be jewish. He has been in the backstages of the power for 30 years now. Damn, jewish conspiracy, you say?

Considering the 8 billionaire jews are only greedy is really underestimating them, are you being antisemitic, filthy goy?

About the economic boom, I know perfectly that it wasn't thanks to censorship that France had its growth. My point was that you don't need freedom of the media to have a free and happy society. I'd even say you need censorship of the press.

>>129086523
>And how would you call someone from a native american dad and an east asian mother?

Mixed race. The word for such people has existed for a very long time.

>>129086523
>Well, fundamentally, there's nothing wrong about that, as long as it doesn't become discriminatory and that understanding is promoted. I mean, everybody has the right to live where they want.

The problem is, there are social tensions when you bring one group near another group... this is because the two tribes are fighting for the same resources.... and they're fighting in favor of their own tribe, and against the other tribe.

>>129087368
But it's not outdated, it's happening right now. More educated people from college who won't fancy the fruits of capitalism because of shittier job prospects than their boomer parents, more productivity but stagnating wages, less economic growth like in the golden years. Corporatism is bigger than ever, enterpreneurism is vanishing, people are fed up with globalism and vote nationalist or socialist, the conservative parties became liberals and so on