Why are there so many ancaps on this board?

>>129006662
There's nothing unreasonable about not pretending only certain super special people have a magical metaphysical monopoly on the legitimate utilization of aggressive violence.

No such magic exists.

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The Anarcho-Right is reddit-tiet faggotry. The Lolbertarians literally radicalized after Ron Paul lost and are now all about muh Anarchy muh smallest minority. I laugh so hard when they shit on le constitution. Arguing with them is toppest of Keks. Their belief system is predicated entirely on fallacious argumentation and they are as bad as the left when it comes to b-but muh feels.

>Government Law Enforcement = bad
>For-profit PMC Law Enforcement = good
>le Constitution c-couldnt stop what happened
>muh smallest minority
>muh NAP

Faggot Degenerates. All of them.

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>>129006662
>making law and order virtually impossible to properly enforce
>implying virtue can be enforced
>implying virtue needs to be enforced
>>129007598
>fallacious argumentation
>b-but muh feels
Your entire post is just that

Shoo shoo, statists
.

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>>129007805

BTFO Anarchist scum.

Please explain how the NAP works in practice. Anarchism, even if effectively implemented, is a degeneracy force multiplier.

>>129008038
You don't use violence against people who haven't themselves used violence against anyone.
You know.
Like every day of your life.

>>129008113
But what constitutes violence? Does fraud?

Gradually?

YOU ARE THE TOURIST HERE

As stupid as the ideology is sometimes, /pol/ has been a hive and magnet for libertarians and other weirdos since it's conception. Its only been recently it has been flooded with reddit normies.

>>129008038
Do you shower?
Even in a police state such as America no state official (unless you're employed by one) will punish you for having bad hygiene.
But people shower nevertheless because good hygienic standards are beneficial for functioning society.
NAP is the same except it's about moral standards.

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>>129008202
defraud me and i'll fucking kill you. Well, you could pay me back triple, and I wont.

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>>129008113

Define, "violence" in the Anarcho-Right milieu.

If my neighbor erects a 50' statue of two homos playing in out in his front yard, how is that not an act of aggression, when I have children I don't want exposed to that? Where do individuals seek a redress of grievances? The local, for profit, courthouse?

>>129008409
But, in such circumstances, how could any system of private law justifiably act in your defense, if we can't define whether said defrauding constituted a violation of the NAP?

More importantly, without a centralized bureaucracy to define people's identity with certainty, how could we possibly attribute an identity to a fraudster who likely used a fake one? Would it even be possible?

>>129006662
'Gradually become a hive of ancaps'? You should have seen this board a few years ago. The majority of posters were libertarians/ancaps. These days the boards has a weird Americanised fascist bent.

>>129008202
Define fraud first - people use that term dramatically differently.
If you end up with a definition that essentially amounts to lying, then obviously lying isn't violent.

Our ancaps might be better classified as nice guy natsocs. Head over to leddits ancap board to see the truly degenerate ones

>>129007805
This. As I said, fascists have to fly from the helicopters before the communists. They are exactly the same, but the fascists have convinced some of us that they are different.

>>129008427
Physical contact intended to injure your body.

>>129008605

Lying in such a way that would constitute a deal done under false pretenses, ultimately causing one of the parties to lose and one of them to gain different to the amount agreed upon.

I think that'd function as a pretty good definition for it.

Libertarians and Ancaps are unironically anti-social and think everyone else doesn't operate through interacting to make the world work.

because it is bedtime in ancap and prime time in jpn now

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>muh ancap strawmen thread
>muh gubberment
>muh roads

>>129008562
You don't think anyone is going to shoot you
>dindu nuffin
>wuz a good boy
You would get away with fraud, but I wouldn't get away with murder? very intredasting.

>>129008737
Yeah I think that definition is fine.
Lying isn't violence no matter how anyone spins it though - we can say fraud is unjust, but we can't say fraud is violence.

>>129008113
"Criminals don't exist guys"
Why does your system sounds an awful lot like another ideology that requires everyone peacefully submits to it to work ?

>>129006662

Because in the end, the only person you can rely on is yourself.

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>>129008692

Neck yourself.

Marxism and Libertarianism are kissing fucking cousins Desu.

>be Marx. Think macro.
>be von Mises. Think micro.

When I was still Bluepilled I believed in the Lolbertarian fairy tale too. It's an idealogical dead end, that is ultimately intellectual fappery.

>>129006662


Did you know all ancaps are actually minors below the voting age?

It's true. Once they had to the age of majority the idea of anarchy leaves their head and they can be smart once again.

No, we need services and institutions. None of these an ape have ever lived without them, so their claims are audacious and poorly thought out.

Good thing one of these retards will never hold a place of power.

>>129008857
Then we can say that fraud is admissable under the NAP?

>>129008824

Not exactly sure what your point is. If you can't attribute such things as DNA evidence or fingerprints to a specific person, it may be incredibly difficult to catch repeat offenders, too.

The system would have difficulties at virtually everything in law enforcement. That's why it's a trade-off between security and liberty.

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>>129008857
Jewish tricks are okay? wow, bizzaro pol

>>129006662
>t seems like /pol/ has gradually become a hive of ancaps.
It isn't. What made you think it is? The only ancaps here are sheltered manchildren who never had a negative interaction with anybody.

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>>129008816
>yay, we overthrew government!
>get taken over before you can actually do anything by an already very established nearby authority

>yay, we overthrew government!
>religious crazies start moving in to spread their beliefs and establish a theocracy

>yay, we overthrew government!
>people who weren't in favor of the revolution start forming political enclaves like monarchy and national socialism and expand their borders by buying land

>yay, we overthrew government!
>the entrepreneurial elite form a secret society and instead of using laws, they use propaganda à la Bernays to rule the masses through the tyranny of the majority

Face it, ancaps are dumb.

I'm communist

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>>129006662

>>129009033
I don't care about the NAP. I'm an anarchist but that thing does nothing for my philosophy.

Other people who do care about the NAP will argue that fraud is theft and thus a form of aggression, but obviously it's not violence even for them.

Here's an excerpt from an article on fraud.

>The theory of contract espoused here demonstrates that fraud is properly viewed as a type of theft. Suppose Karen buys a bucket of apples from Ethan for $20. Ethan represents the things in the bucket as being apples, in fact, as apples of a certain nature, that is, as being fit for their normal purpose of being eaten. Karen conditions the transfer of title to her $20 on Ethan's not knowingly engaging in 'fraudulent' activities, like pawning off rotten apples. If the apples are indeed rotten and Ethan knows this, then he knows that he does not receive ownership of or permission to use the $20, because the condition 'no fraud' is not satisfied. He is knowingly in possession of Karen's $20 without her consent, and is, therefore, a thief.

>In other words, for the libertarian, fraud is a type of aggression (namely, theft), just because it is a means by which one party receives or uses or takes the property of someone else without their consent—and there is failure of consent because the first party's misrepresentation meant that one of the conditions to transfer of title was not satisfied.

>>129006662
Every once in a while theres a No Step On Snek general thread. All the Lolberts and Anarcho Adolescents generally stay in there for fear of brutal ridicule for espousing their views elsewhere.

>>129008753
There is a dire problem in Libertarian thinking, and you see it come to the surface every time they regurgitate their rhetoric. They love calling people collectivists. You make any pro government organization argument and you get a torrent of
>hurr you're a collectivist
>stop babysitting people
>hurr statism

These people are unironically suffering from an autism spectrum disorder. People are social animals. We're tribal animals, and in group preference is something all people feel. Its such a strong force that public schools have to spend a decade trying to train it out of kids with diversity and tolerance mantras.
We naturally act as groups for our collective interests. This is what our enemy does, and its why they're so successful in the face of totally fractured and disillusioned white populations. Whenever whites start advocating for group interests in political discussions you'll see these immature and ill educated Libertarian/AnCaps counter signal against it. In essence they are making an argument against themselves, against their own people, and for the enemy. They are arguing to keep whites fractured and weak.

They think they're superior, enlightened, better than the average man, and they couldn't possibly be more wrong. They're just socially retarded goyim who tacitly support getting cucked by Jews.

>>129009034
>unjust
>ok

Not being violence doesn't make something right.

>>129008427
Depends on the neighbours. If you live in a fag neighbourhood with your husband it's probably not gonna matter.
If you live in a normal neighbourhood then it could be an act of aggression.
The neighbour erecting the statue should consult the other residents in both situations.
If he doesn't and builds the statue anyway and somebody doesn't like it there isn't really anything the other guy can do. Except of course building a giant swastika in your backyard as a revenge.
>>129008978
>Marxism and Libertarianism are kissing fucking cousins Desu
Unlike fascism which is basically commie-light + nationalism?

>>129009303
>These people are unironically suffering from an autism spectrum disorder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs&ab_channel=musiclover041591

You're more right than you think you are.

>>129009033
You asked how private law can handle it, I told you. I am my own private law enforcement or whatever word salad you want to call self-defense.
Two parties, resolving a dispute, is exactly what these things are. Third parties may or may not be needed.

>>129009019
Most services and institutions aren't government.

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>>129009019

Fucking leafbro gets it. The Anarcho-Right ideologies are a sophomoric, infantile reaction to forces in society that upsets their feelings. It is the political equivalent of adolescence.

>be Anarcho-Right community of non-aggressing anti-statists
>be conquered and ground into nuggets by neighboring Islamic community for being infidels
>be conquered and skinned alive by neighboring tribal warlord who wants their Ancap wimmenz for sex slavery, and their Ancap chillinz for the work camps
>be conquered and used as slave labor in Mexican cartel drug factory

The Anarcho-Right fairy tale is fucking hilarious.

>>129009479
How can one assure, in such circumstances, that justice would be properly served? Justice is typically seen as being proportional to the crime, but this seems like you assume everyone will do that, because everyone is nice like that....

I get the feeling ancaps have a ridiculously rose tinted view of humanity. They forget that at any moment, people are willing to rip out another's throat if it means they get an absurd amount of reward for doing so.

>>129009350
Ok, explain how you handle jewish tricks then please sir.

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>Federal government gets disbanded and no longer in power
>Those already in power in the states become their own nations
>???????

I don't understand how you can establish an ancap country. All you're doing to removing the federal government and just replacing self autonomous states. The government still exists, it's just extremely small now until they federalize again.

>>129006662
>It seems like /pol/ has gradually become a hive of ancaps.
You haven't been here very long, have you?
I started coming here for the 2012 election, and there were a LOT more ancaps here then.

>>129009666
I don't care.
People's sins are their own problem that they're inevitably going to have to deal with.

>being a slave is ok as long my owner is called the state because i am useless and I just CANNOT take care of myself! I need my owner to
Statists are literally babies.

>>129009835
>people's sins are their own
>implying society can't be the victim of enough people fucking up as individuals

autism.

>>129009664
>defraud me and i'll fucking kill you. Well, you could pay me back triple, and I wont.
Come on chap, I opened up with that. Pay attention. I said I'd fucking kill you.
There's no rose tint here, only blood.
Unless you want to say I'm not an Ancap, which is probably totally fair.

>>129009681
So you'd go from a few people pretending to represents hundreds of millions of people while enforcing their arbitrary dictates on them to a few people pretending to represent far far fewer people and doing the same.

That's slightly less worse - I won't complain about things getting less worse.

>>129009378

Your first argument is a failure.

>unbridled liberty and individual property rights yay (terms and conditions may apply)

>Unlike fascism which is basically commie-light + nationalism?

That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Contemporary fascism is tribalism on Super Male Vitality.

>>129006662
An ancap world works, whereas natsoc would fall in 5 years.

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>>129009926
the common man is a baby.

If Libertarianism was a correct ideology, than universal suffrage would be the most efficient way to get the least corrupt politicians in office.

If Libertarianism was a correct ideology, then Libertarianism would have already been voted into office (Ron Paul, etc.) because consumer demand, going by your logic, would get the best outcome.

>>129009945
People fuck with one another all the time.
Did you think you made a point with that post?

>>129010006
It probably would be fair, but what I want to know is what justice that is, if it isn't proportional? If it's not, then why would we want to live in that world?

Rate the dummies of /pol/

>High Tier
Radical humanists / Alt-Left
Third Way
Aryanists
True Left
Radical centrists

>Okay Tier
National socialists
Fascists
Transhumanists

>Mid Tier
Libertarians
Russiaboos
Traditionalists

>Shit Tier
Authoritarian capitalists
White nationalists
Democrats
Bolsheviks
Marxist Communists

>Bottom of the barrel
Neoconservatives / Trumpfags / Hillaryfags
AnCaps
Antifa / Left-anarchists
SJWs

>>129010078
Then he'll stop being a baby or die.

This is why retard natsocs hate ancap, they are weak.

>>129006662
High influx of gen z recently, don't worry they'll eventually become more authoritarian as time goes on

>>129010078
That's horrible logic.
Just because something is good or desirable doesn't mean people must pursue it or that it must happen or else it's not good or desirable.

>>129010209
>the common man will stop being a baby

You still didn't address my argument.

Libertaranism believes that consumer demand will get the best solutions to everything.

So why isn't it already voted in if we have every single chucklefuck able to vote in America?

Why isn't your logic working?!

>>129010022

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Maybe I'm wrong but is't that called Minarchism? Or at least a very extreme kind of libertarianism. I just don't see how Anarcho-capitalism can be established without killing large amounts of people. It's just Utopian like Anarcho-communism.

>>129010223
Why would a moral person want to violently control other people based on their own arbitrary whims?

>>129009650
Libertarianism and the edgelord equivalent Anarcho-Capitalism are the bastions of people who sought alternative views and stopped to stare at the first pebble on the ground. It is the ideology of entry level thinkers. Poorly formed, not thought to its logical conclusion, not taking human nature and social dynamics into account.
A society is not a collection of totally separate individuals, people inherently have collective tendencies. A society itself is by definition a collective. To think that every single person is an island unto himself, a Nietzschian super man, totally independent, and only voluntarily interacting with others is simply autistic delusion.

>>129009469
I've seen most of that before, and I've had the misfortune of attending a Libertarian conference back in 2008 when it was even more fringe. There were less 20 somethings and way more mustard stained 40-50 year olds who looked like they lived in group homes.

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>>129010209

He's right. If AnCap ideas are so great, why do they continually fail in the marketplace of ideas?

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>>129010405

It's like communism. The system falls apart if a few people fail to participate, making it astonishingly hard to defend.

>>129006662
Stop confusing ancap with libertarian.
Being libertarian is a nationalist movement in the US.
This website is based on the US, there's your answer.

>>129010153
>High Tier
Traditionalists
Monarchists


>Good Tier
Traditionalists
Fascists
Libertarian Fascists

>Mid Tier
Libertarians
Natsocs

>Shiet Tier
Ancap
Anarcho-anything
Communists
Resource Based Economy people
General bluepills

>Bottom of the barrel
Kekistanis
SJWs
Antifa
SJW

>>129010531
No, I mean ancap. I only used the pic because I didn't have any ancap balls on hand, unfortunately.

But yeah, when I said ancap, I meant ancap.

>>129010064
>terms and conditions may apply
Yes, voluntary ones. If you don't want giant dick statues build around your property make an agreement with your neighbours that they won't build them.
>Contemporary fascism is tribalism on Super Male Vitality
So it's a meme?

>>129010340
If there's government there's not anarchy, because governments consist in a people self-designated as a ruling class.

All it takes for anarchy is for people to not try to violently subjugate others, which is what you and almost everyone in the first world manages to successfully refrain from every day. If a single town of a couple thousand people stopped paying taxes tomorrow, nothing would happen to them.

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>>129010380

Gospel, anon.

I put it on the same level as SJW ideals in the ranking of childish philosophies.

>>129010138
>implying there is better justice now
it's not like this world is all that great guy. Don't walk on any bridges in london ok?
We can cut off the hands of thieves. we could remove their dicks, so they can't reproduce. We lock them up for a while now, on the taxpayers dime. Is that justice?
>>129009835
That sounds pretty jewish.

>>129010405
It's the easiest way to end any argument with an Ancap or Libertardian.

If their logic was so amazing, there already would be a Libertarian or Ancap place.

Communists think the same thing. People will eventually (it's guaranteed in their minds) rise up and everywhere will become Communist.

>>129010599
>Libertarian fascism
There's no such thing. If you're talking about Pinochet, he contradicts fascism on multiple fundamental beliefs and is rightfully despised by fascists. He wasn't a libertarian nor was he a fascist, and fascists are fundamentally anti-capitalism and anti-communism. You can't have fascism and capitalism.

>>129010778
What wouldn't sound Jewish?
Violently conscripting other people to go murder and be murdered for your arbitrary unimportant whims?

>>129006662
>The idea that private militaries would just uphold the NAP, even if they saw an opportunity to wipe out competition is a laughably bad assumption.
They probably shouldn't attack the people who pay their wages

>>129010778

Mate, nothing will be perfect, and it'd be unreasonable to ask for that. I think it'd be even more unreasonable to trust individuals to settle a case between them rationally, without one pursuing self interest beyond what they're owed.

Humans are cunts. Like sheep, they need to be guided to what is best for them, because they prove time and time again, through their bad decisions and their degeneracy that they can't make it on their own.

>>129010653
Gotcha. I know a lot of faggots try to place them in the same bucket.
I've always been for some government. Good to know you're not retarded.
Keep up the good fight anon.

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>>129010826
That's literally toddler logic dude.
It's not valid.

>in a book club
>reading the Prince
>we read the parts about using auxiliaries and mercenaries and how he hates them vs troops motivated by both money and nationalism
>we subsequently shit on Ancaps

feels good not to be a brainlet.

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>>129010672

Riiiiiiiight right. "Voluntary" ones...

So, ultimately, the Anarcho-Right is a political system exactly like what we have now, only it's under the auspices of volunteerism, and you totally have maximum freedom and embrace the sanctity of private property rights, and that's what's so great about it, except that you don't have any of that because:

>have unlimited freedoms
>here sign this voluntary paper giving up all your unlimited freedoms

Kys

>>129011062
>this argument isn't valid just because I say so.
>whew... now I don't have to put forth an argument

I have you filtered for a reason. I had to open your post to actually see what you wrote.

I remember you genuinely being stupid in other threads. Not stupid as an insult but as a description.

>>129010983
>their bad decisions and their degeneracy that they can't make it on their own.
got it, we'll just take a few of those same people and put them in charge of everyone else. How could it go wrong?
>>129010920
A poster other than you.
>muh gorillion

>newfags from r_thedonald pretend pol hasnt been overwhelmingly libertarian until flooded by redditors

>>129011315
/pol/ is shifting towards the 4th step of the redpill, which is traditionalism and monarchy.

>>129011239
It's not because I say so, it's because "people don't tend to x therefore x is bad" is logically invalid in form *PERIOD*.
Jesus Christ, what a dipshit random you are.

>>129006662
>not knowing ancap is impossible because any type of 'upholding/enforcing' is a government

>ancap is the government before there is a government, that's it, it cannot exist, any type of structure breaks it's philosphy

> NAP is created through government and generations of people following rules so it's hardwired in them. In a real ancap society no such thing as NAP, as a NAP would violate ANCAP

>>129011309
No, we take a few of them and put them in competition with one another to act as shills to the rest of us, for power. If they depend on us for their control, they appease the masses, and the checks and balances required to keep that machine turning keep things in check.

It's worked for both of our countries without fail. Or am I forgetting a radical dictator that controlled the US at any time?

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>>129011315
it's like these guys don't even know what they're talking about.
No wait, that's exactly it.

>>129011376
Monarchy is indeed redpilled, im no longer a lolbertarian myself.

However, the way newfags itt pretend pol was always like this and that libertarians here are something new is truly depressing

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>>129011482
>It's worked for both of our countries without fail.
oh you got me m8

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>>129010405
>>129010510
>>129010826
You could say that about any party that doesn't get votes.
>>129011157
>here sign this voluntary paper giving up all your unlimited freedoms
Yes, which you're not forced to sign at a gunpoint.

>>129006662
*Analyses post
Warning: violation of NAP detected.
*Subroutine 5378 activated.

Be advised. Be advised

*deploy counter measures

OP is a faggoooooooootxa16^'shhhfcdrhvcf/^&*"#3dwdghbfra

*shuts down.

>>129011404
You really lack logic lmao

Libertards think that consumer demand in an unregulated free market will yield the highest quality results, right?


So if every citizen after 18 and with no felonies can vote in America, why haven't we voted in a Libertarian candidate?

Why are they just losing in the free market of ideas EVERY SINGLE TIME?

Maybe you should go back to playing your redpilled video games.

>>129011420
When you steal my TV and I take it back I don't become government.
Government is defined by people who claim legitimacy in demanding a monopoly on the use of aggressive violence.

>>129011620
>You could say that about any party that doesn't get votes.
Libertards believe every individual operates as an individual, and therefore should make the best educated vote.

Other parties believe once they just win the majority of the population, they'll use their government force to control everyone else, whether or not they voted them in.

>>129011108
Lolbert and AnCap economists have a lesson to learn therein about the economic value of abstract concepts. An existential threat can motivate a man to act equally or more so than coin. A man fighting for his homeland in face of an outside threat does not need to be paid.
A man fighting to protect his homeland, things he loves, who is also getting paid would be the most loyal man to fill your ranks.

In the free market you can always find men to hire as mercenaries. You however can not always find men who fight for facing an existential threat. Somethings with a value are impossible to find and trade in a market. Some things have a value to great.

>>129011593
An incompetent does not denote failure on the entire system, because the system has remained the same and still turns. You've got an incompetent in office now, but the US will still be there when he leaves office.

>>129006662
The only thing ANCAP ever gave us is funny memes.

>>129011783
You care about things you shouldn't care about.
Like your life, which is pretty worthless.

>>129011940
>You care about things you shouldn't care about.
>Like your life, which is pretty worthless.

Pretty much sums up /pol/'s attitude to everything.

>>129011783
Agreed

They are unironically on the autism spectrum. Just look at the Praceteom guy.

He actually trips because he thinks people care who he his.

>>129011635
>free market of ideas
It's not a market of ideas. A vote in a democracy is license to steal.

>>129012052
anyone can buy a $1 burger just like anyone can give a vote.

In fact, more people can vote than can buy a $1 burger because you don't require anything to go vote.

That is literally the best free market you can ever get. Libertarianism fails everytime

>>129011315
/n/ and /new/ were both nothing but hangouts for NatSoc posters which is why Moot shut both of them down originally before /pol/ was eventually created later on.
The Libertarian presence really only exploded around 2012 when Ron Paul was running in the GOP primaries. At the same time there was an explosion of NeoReactionaries, Monarchists, and other fringe right posters. If you don't remember this then you're the newfag.

>>129011940
Life is not a purely hedonistic experience. If your value structure is so hollow that you care about nothing save your own life then you're living a totally unfulfilled life.

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>>129011783

Based burgerbro. (((They))) don't get it. It's all about dem shekels.

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>>129012246
>tfw monarchist

>>129012150
Its not though, because in a democracy where everyone can vote, the poor people will always vote en masse to steal everyone elses money.

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>>129006662

>>129012345
wait, so are you saying that masses of people can be swayed to think a certain way and people can't always be trusted to think as logical individuals and regulate their own lives independently?

I thought you were the Libertarian one here.

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>>129011789
Oh you're not joking? Bush wasn't to represent a failure, that was me laughing.
Of course the systems have failed. The US is so far gone from what the republic was supposed to be. It's a monolithic superstate. Total failure, way off the rails from design.
I don't know about the UK, but the English are certainly getting fucked over by it. They don't hardly live in london anymore.

>>129012246
>Life is not a purely hedonistic experience
I absolutely agree.
Nothing about my post need change from that recognition.

>>129012150
>you don't require anything to go vote
And that's exactly why people are reckless and greedy with their votes. It doesn't affect them. They can benefit by electing the guy that steals the most. Whereas in a market you would want to spend your dollar to get the best service possible.

>>129012246
>the libertarians only exploded when ron paul ran

Yeah but they were still a large percentage of the board before then. Stormfags/third positionfags were routinely btfo. Monarchists and libertarians got along quite well, i was a monarchist back then who supported ron paul because he was still better than neocons or obummer

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>>129006662
/pol/ was and always has been a libertarian-right board. So many newfags fall for the stormweenie meme and actually advocate national (((socialism))) rather than the intended race realism and rejection of political correctness and taboos such as holocaust denial.

>>129010371

About 1% of the population are sociopaths, and there's no legit cure. Another 1% are psychopaths, and they can be treated. Not all are criminals but enough are; about 1/3rd of prisoners are sociopaths and psychopaths. Psychologists attempted to train some to curb their impulses. The result? More than half learnt how to be even more manipulative. Nifty trick, do gooders.

>>129011783
So what you're saying is that free market is so great that existential threats don't exist?
If these people want to fight and die for the defense of their homeland they should form militias.
>>129011769
>Libertards believe every individual operates as an individual
ok
>and therefore should make the best educated vote.
The keyword is educated, which most people aren't.

>>129012439
Then you arent using IDs. Im not libertarian, im just correcting you.

>>129012246
Natsocs were made fun of back then and a small minority.

>>129012476
>people don't waste their money and time on frauds and scams all the fucking time to the point where people think personal trainers are legitimate and fad diets can work

Crossfit doesn't work. Crossfit costs money. Crossfit is immensely popular.

A free market only benefits niche communities who actually know what the fuck they're doing.

>>129012612
K. What's your point?
Why do I care?

>>129012723
autism

>>129006662
The entire world is functionally an ancap dystopia, nations are corporations, alliances are economic partnerships, people are product, child sex slaves are bought and sold and people murdered everyday for the trade of them.
We're just living ancap as per the ancap environment we're in, doesn't make us ancap ideologically.
Most here are actually nazi if not fascist. You can think it isn't true but it's oh so true.

>>129012450
I'd argue that the fact that the US still functions and arguably will still function is testament to the system working, irrespective of whether or not it doesn't conform to what the founding fathers intended.

As for the UK, we're getting fucked over by a ruling economic elite. Areas are being bought up by development groups selling their wares to foreign millionaires who don't even use the house for most of the year.

It's economics that is fucking us over, not just the government.

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>>129006662
its just ledditors. /pol/ is corporatist/syndicalist

they're just liberals who want to be edgy

>>129012636
"Crossfit doesnt work" this is incorrect. Crossfit is just a branded form of circuit training. Just like Karate, crossfit is great if you have a legitimate instructor. The issue is that its so popular that you have McGyms everywhere with fake teachers.

>>129012766
Anyone against living in an open Ancap society, tell me where and whom are these benevolent overlords that you hope to elect?

>>129012636
>Crossfit
It's better than nothing. If those people want to train that way, let them. I like how every time you statists presume the government has the answer. If we let the government regulate what sort of program people do in the gym we'd probably end up being forced to work out with shake weights.

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>I have you filtered for a reason
>"pls notice me"

>>129008857
Lying is violence.
Yell fire in a crowded theatre.
Words are actions and thus have consequences.

>>129012323
I freely admit that the accountability of a king and a court to assume total responsibility for all faults in a country is a sound way to organize government so long as the people had the ability to recall the court in dire straights.
There were plenty of decent kingdoms in history. Funny how its outsiders who usually brought all the problems.

>>129012461
>You care about things you shouldn't care about.
Family, Nation, clay. All things we shouldn't care about according to you.

>>129012535
Before hand there was pretty much nothing but NatSoc posts, people coming in to check out the board, and trolls. It was constant Hitler threads, NatSoc ideology, and racial facts. No one was sperging over the nuances of the NAP back then. All of that is far more recent.

>>129012955
Ask anyone who knows their shit about fitness. Go on /plg/ (powerlifting general) on /fit/ and ask them. Go on /owg/ (olymping weightlifting general) on /fit/ and ask them.

It's a fad for normies, not people who know proper form, routines, and training.

the commoner throws away his vote just like he throws away his dollars.

They buy drugs, liquer, etc. to be addicted.

They buy video games and fleshlights to sap their free time.

The commoner is a fucking tard, which emphasizes the importance of a monopoly of force by a hierarchy.

>>129012576
agree m8

>>129010380
>>129009650
yeh this is why classical liberals have created the new liberalism. try to crack up some books

>>129013168
I think you are misremembering. Nobody is denying they had a huge board presence, but libertarians and mobarchists made up probably 30-40% of the board combined.

>>129013168
I think family is valuable. Those other two? Not even remotely valuable. If anything, "da joos" you so dislike want nothing more than for you to be a bootlicker willing to die for the causes of people you perceive as better than you, because that makes you ridiculously easy to manipulate.

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>>129013000

Just in case you didn't know, modern Russia is literally an ancap country. After the fall of USSR the small group of people who had deep understanding of market economy (so mostly a bunch of Jews and some state officials at that moment) started quickly acquiring all of the former state assets, since now private property became legal. Regular folk mostly didn't care about starting businesses since they had been too deeply hurt by the economical collapse and were simply trying to survive. Meanwhile the oligarchy formed, the one that's ruling Russia now. There has been some dispute between some of the oligarchs controlling the key assets, which, if you remember, ended with political scandals and some oligarchs imprisoned, stripped of their property and some killed. Remember (((((((Khodorkovsky)))))), (((((((((Berezovsky))))))))), Litvinenko and other shit like this? ِAlso during the 90s shit went so ancap that the huge armed gangs and other groups (like Chechen separatists) appeared, illegal drug trade went completely out of control and so forth.

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>>129013195

>>129013546
And the roads are shit too.

>>129012772
any institution will plod along if people keep showing up, that is, until it doesn't. These things have thier own inertia, they'll keep going long after their viable.
The "March of Dimes" charity was put together to find a cure for polio, and they did. March of Dimes is still a charity, with a much more nebulous goal now.
Ships don't sink instantly.

>>129013607
this is why you're an average joe but still claims he has above average intelligence.

>>129013144
No.
Words aren't violence and can't be.
Violence is intentionally causing with your own body or else in the utilization of non-human things bodily injury to other people.

>>129013195
>/fit/
>>/plg/
Oh so you dont know anything. /fit/ is fucking terrible and plg is full of literal autists blasting and cruising.

Im not saying this to try to brag in any way, but im an amateur wrestler and boxer. Believe me, unless you want to look refrigerator mode you dont trust /fit/. Most of us leave fit after a year when we realize were surrounded by retards.

Circuit training is what most real athletes use, strength training is great for aesthetics but people who use traditional strength training rarely have decent cardio

Again, its like karate. Karate is seen as a joke because of how many fake trainers there are, but real karate is legit. Some of the greatest mma fighters have a base in karate. GSP, For example is arguably the GOAT mma fighter, and his base was karate.

Crossfit is the same way, even rippetoe admits that.

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>>129013508
>People who want freedom are lemmings
>People who want government control are enlightened

Ancap here, turned into one from a left-libshit here on /pol/.
To Praceteom, make sure your principles are freaking stellar for when you get stabbed with a knife.

>>129013505
Nation literally means your people. Your ethnic identity.
You are explicitly saying that white people have no intrinsic value.
You are arguing that nothing irreplaceable would be lost if all whites were to face realized total demographic replacement.
You are also arguing that the country has no value. The logical extension of such is that a people could exist anywhere, having no homeland, and there would be no downside as homeland has no value.

You just made the absolutely most Jewish argument in the history of /pol/

>>129013775
>Oh so you dont know anything. /fit/ is fucking terrible and plg is full of literal autists blasting and cruising.

Circuit training is done by DYELs or people on steroids.

Holy fuck, just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>b-but I can squat a-almost 200lbs im so stronk

>>129013866
Already covered.
I'm ready to die any time - how about you?

>>129013816
freedom doesn't exist.

Edward Bernays proved it. I'll let you google Edward Bernays now because you obviously don't read on a regular basis.

>>129013678
Is it so hard for you to understand people actually want to have fun and not just act like mindless automatons? Now who's the autist?

>>129014037
people who only like to have fun are commoners.

People who are mindless automatons get shit done, then have fun.

Trump is 70 years old and still a workaholic.

>>129013982
>freedom doesn't exist
maybe that's true if youre a pussy

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>tfw anyone who won't leave you alone is objectively evil
>tfw people advocate for your enslavement because you want to be peaceful
>tfw being a violence sociopath is good but being a decent human being is bad
>tfw evil people will ruin it, so I'll be evil and ruin it for myself

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>>129013982
>freedom doesn't exist.
Just because you don't have unlimited freedom in some abstract sense doesn't mean you shouldn't seek the most freedom and personal responsibility possible.
>more autistic nitpicking

>>129013873
I'm saying no people have value actually. All people are worthless sinners.
I don't care about your skin color - no matter what it is you're bound for damnation without God. Jesus Christ; you care about absolutely worthless things.
"This country". You mean space within make-believe lines that have a bunch of people you'll never know and that you have no interest in associating with - and who in turn have no interest in associating with you - that exist somewhere within that space? What an amazing thing to value. What a joke.

>>129013982
>freedom doesn't exist
>I'll let you google Edward Bernays
oh so i have the freedom to do so? thanks

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>>129014148
Read Propaganda by Edward Bernays.

Fun facts:

Edward Bernays established modern PR for corporations.

He made the words 'public relations' because propaganda was a dirty word.

He roused support through propaganda to get popular backing to overthrow the government in Guatamala.

He is responsible for tying ads and products to status, sexual desire, etc.

He is the reason women smoking is not taboo. He literally told some women to jump into a New York parade and light up. Before they did it, he called up the press claiming he had a "tip" so it would get widespread coverage. He then called the cigs "Torches of Freedom" so they would have a positive spin in the mind of people.

Democracy and freedom doesn't exist because your mind is a bunch of water and it'll shape the glass someone pours it in.

>inb4 I'm 2smart4u to fall for poopaganda! I'm ABOVE average intelligence!!!

>>129014391
>muh semantics
>look I won!

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>>129013866
>carl
>>129013982
what is the century of self?
It's a better thing to google.

>>129013508
Insightful. Thanks.
>>129013816
Nah, libertarians are those who think for themselves, but do not choose the correct approach.
Neither do the NatSocs, in the long run. That's why the Alt-Right was created, and they're good at it.

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>>129014636
The average person here wants to get their info from a 7 minute Murdoch Murdoch video or a Black Pigeon Speaks video, not a 4 hour documentary about Freud's family complete with footage and commentary of their psychology experiments.

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>>129014121
>only like to have fun
Strawman. Mixing in fun with useful activities is the way to go unless you want to fail. Also you immediately backpedaled on the fun bit. So now it's okay to waste your free time as long as you already finish working? Because believe it or not that's what most people actually do.

>Trump is 70 years old and still a workaholic.
Yeah and I bet he gets a lot of enjoyment from winning. Also golf. You want to forbid Trump from golfing because he's not being at maximum efficiency?

>>129014391
>>129014281
I think you're missing the point quite painfully.
Freedom is a philosophical ideal. You do not have freedom. At all. Freedom is a binary, because once restricted it is no longer freedom. You have liberties.
Liberty is on a gradient of more or less.


>>129014329
>I'm totally a Christian guys
>except for the fact that I just claimed humans are worthless
>defaming God's creation

Absolutely nothing about your horseshit is coherent or thought out. You're just a kike.

>>129014553
Yeah, I have. My point is if you don't take your understanding of it and apply it to your own life you are a worthless faggot.
>if you have to inb4 being a faggot my point is proven.

>>129014831
>Yeah and I bet he gets a lot of enjoyment from winning. Also golf. You want to forbid Trump from golfing because he's not being at maximum efficiency?
the average person is not a trailblazer and instead does the minimum to get by. Only a small minority are innovators and you just ride their coat tails into success.

>>129006662
I don't know Ancap would be ideal if I we're to choose a system for a country. If it's really that bad I am switching back to Communism. Where can I find this /leftypol/?

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>>129014805
shame!
Now those few that do want 4 hours can have it.

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>>129010599
Mi negro.

>not being a tribalist

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>>129015025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s&ab_channel=DavidLessig

I recommend this to anyone arguing for freedom, liberty, or Libertarianism.

It'll be a real eye opener for you.

>>129015058
>tfw when you get rid of the king, you just create a power vacuum that all aristocratic families compete for and it becomes a competition of who can lie the best into office

>>129006662
Ancap is libertarianism to the extreme. Ancap is actually a somewhat feasible system as opposed to other 'anarchy' systems, while I don't advocate for NO GOVERNMENT, AnCap has a good angle on the economy- which no other ideology does. Free markets Trump everything else, and ancap revolves around that.

The only reason why I don't support ancap is because there should always be a government, we're not civilized enough to not have a government, but their core economic ideology is on point.

>>129013930
I want to die-MCA.
Really, there's movements out to get you, subjugate and murder you because they hate what good men like you represent - peace.
The only time you should extend the olive branch to the enemy is when you're gonna beat his ass with it.
>>129014636
Posting TRS memes on social media can get you shoah'd. On /pol/, not so much.
Because a surprisingly high number of people don't know about it here.

>>129014866
But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more?

Men are worthless sinners with negative existential value. God loves us utterly undeservedly. That's the Bible's entire theme - God loving a wretched, pathetic, and unimaginably worthless rabble of people who do nothing but fail Him.

>>129014866
>is no longer freedom. You have liberties.
So you're the one arguing semantics and accusing others of doing so? Probably everyone but you understands what we mean by freedom.

>>129014974
>instead does the minimum to get by.
So that's why we should force them into gulags?

>Only a small minority are innovators and you just ride their coat tails into success.
Yeah and this is why you shouldn't fuck with freedom. Because inevitably some of those people will get into government and stop others from competing. And because these competitive people are in the minority and most people just give politicians more power through voting it ends up destroying any semblance of a free market.

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>>129015368
Are you saying you're a barbaric faggot who will rob, rape, and kill everyone you see?

Are you uncivilized?

What is civil about threatening peaceful people?

>>129012996
Trump.
And I never said I was electing anyone, I'm MAKING him God Emperor by holding all of your lives as ransom. Do it or you break the ToS of my timeline and I remove you from it. This is not an option, you DON'T have a choice in the matter and furthermore you never had free will to begin with so don't bemoan it too much, it'll just make life harder for you.

>>129015665
That's not how An-Cap works at all.

>>129015404
That's fine. That's their problem not mine - I don't have to contend with the consequences other people wrack up for their own sins.
If anything I'm told to feel bad for them, though I admittedly struggle with that unless I actually witness their person.

>>129015566
God's creation is not worthless. Murder is a sin because life is a sacred gift, human life is a gift, and that has value. We were made in his image, and that has value. We have an immortal soul, and that has value.
The existence of Christendom, in a physical place in the world, has value.
Without people, without clay, there is no possible way for people to receive the word. There would be no Christendom otherwise. The earthly church is not worthless.

You're espousing absolute heresy, like a kike. Kike.

>>129015628
Where did I accuse anyone of arguing semantics? Swing and a miss.

>>129015783
>you never had free will to begin with so don't bemoan it too much, it'll just make life harder for you
>having a sense of personal responsibility will make your life harder
>be a manbaby instead!

>>129013711
"BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN"

>>129010778
>Hurrrrr the system isn't perfect so let's just fuck it up even more
Ok anarchofaggots, I gave listening to your bullshit a chance, but I'm done reading this thread now, you're more autistic than my little step brother, and he can barely form sentences.
You fucking retards just want to fuck shit up for the sake of fucking shit up and muh Liberty. Anon was right, you retards really are just as bad as liberals at muh fee fee arguments.

>>129006662
eh, they kind of surged in 2014-15, for whatever reason.

Reminder that /pol/ is Ron Paul Liberalism and Nat-Soc

>>129015665
I'm saying that government harms economic development- which is a well-known fact- but without government we won't be able to live comfortable and safe lives. Without government there would be no jails, law enforcement, etc. So it would be an uncivilized mess.

I agree with their economic ideology, but socially it's unfeasible. That's literally what I said. And the political compass picture is pretty stupid, ancap supporters would probably be fine with a libertarian country.

>>129016192
>>129014615
My bad it was the other idiot. Like how you dodged the point though.

>>129016192
Murder is a sin because God tells us not to do it.
Sin is the disobeying of God.
>in a physical place in the world
Delusional. You have to be a fucking Kikelic.
Read all the passages about "the world" - you're a hedonist and you don't even realize it.

>>129013816
>implying freedom exists and that you don't become more chained to your peers the more you release yourself from central authority
Lmaoooooooooo

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>>129016736
>relying on your community instead of some remote politicians is bad

>>129013927
I actually compete in combat sports. Looking good doesnt help when i can outpace you and have more endurance. Enjoy your 600 lbs squat while i jab you and double leg you for 15 minutes and your power js depleted two minutes in.

>>129016708
>I'm totally Christian guys
>nevermind the fact that my entire world view relies on the fact that I repeatedly claim that God's works are worthless
>directly and explicitly insulting God the father
>everything is worthless, including Christendom and Christ's sacrifice
>because of that you should totally be fine with whites dying out, culture being destroyed, and Jews creating a global Communist state where they rule over the interbred and subjugated brown people

You're literally a subhuman kike. Straight out of the brood of vipers. A God hating immoral hook nosed heeb.

>>129017261
>being mentally incapable of nuance or the ability to delegate responsibilities between central and non-central entities according to their effectiveness at each role
>pretending anything other than effectiveness is a valid argument
Never change anarchofaggots, never change

>>129017461
>Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him

>You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God

>See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ

>And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever

We have negative worth yet God offers us Grace. That is *THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE BIBLE*. You're a hedonistic kike. Try to avoid hell.

Libertarians aren't ancaps. Ancaps are disgusting. Libertarians need a night of the long knives but we kill ancaps instead of strasserists.

I bet if it wasn't for the fucking retarded contrarian ancaps running around more people would have voted Gary Johnson.

Johnson is a textbook libertarian. Ancaps are just literally retarded

>>129006662
>minarchist
ancap is a definition of an inescapable reality, not an ideology. you're just dumb.

>>129014329
>christkike
makes sense now

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>>129017588
And what is this effectiveness? State welfare works better or is more desirable than local private charity? Enjoy paying for Shaniqua's 10th kid. Socialized medicine works better than free market healthcare? Have fun dying when after you get put on a one year wait list. And the police is ridiculously inefficient for spending billions chasing addicts instead of focusing on reducing actual crime.

>>129018726
Good luck at the end.

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>>129007598
nice argument

>>129018233
>look at me be a kike
>look at me distort scripture
>look at me twist and go back on my own argument
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

The great house is all of creation. People are vessels. Some are gold or silver. Others are wood or clay. Less refined, but still a vessel none the less. A vessel is a specific thing with function and purpose. It is not worthless. The Lord never said that we were worthless, this is you espousing heresy because you're in the most literal sense a God hating Jew. You're a non white semite. A kike.

>>129018726
100% he absolutely isn't a Christian of any sort. Not even Satan worshipping Mormons would tolerate his brand of outrageous defaming of God.

>>129018740
>muh welfare state
Oh ha ha cute he thinks that's an argument against statism and not socialism
> comes to a right wing board. Use this to draw a man talking points about leftist economic policies
Never change, never change

>>129016200
You're strawmanning.
Here's your sense of personal responsibility: not getting your fucking ass flayed out by me. Your personal responsibility is to do what I say and deal with your feelings about it or you'll be feeling my fucking boot up your ass, nigger.

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>>129006662
>Series of hanging Assertions
Beyond surprised the ideology is beyond your understanding anon.

Ancaps are worth 2-3 Nat Soc sheep in battle. The future is with us.

>>129019240
No. Jesus.

Have some lovely and explicit verses spoken by God Himself that you viscerally object to because you're not actually a Christian!

"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )

Ja ne.

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>>129019323
>statism and not socialism
One and the same. The government seeks to expand its power. Also it was to show that its effectiveness is garbage. Something you haven't addressed at all.

>>129006662
I am raising money to erect a statue of mien fuhrer at go fund me called Hitler was a hero donate nigs and get woke here
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

This is not a joke, it is leadership think of the press coverage this will get and the red pills it will drop

>>129019574
come and try it bitch

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Actually /pol/ is a libertartian board thats why NatSoc came here (because freedom of speech).

Gets your fact right you newfag of a OP

>>129019696
You just continue in your retarded tirade. You're posting scripture that tells people to not be overly attached to the physical world, to concern themselves with their immortal soul instead. Nothing you're posting says that humans are worthless. Nothing. Because no scripture states that.
No scripture calls God's works worthless.
No scripture says the world is worthless.
No scripture says the earthly church is worthless.
Scripture says that man's life is temporary, all things in the world are temporary, but the soul is eternal. Souls are worth saving specifically because they have value. Because they are works of God.

You're just showing yourself to be a God hating kike like the rest of your hook nosed tribe, shitskin.

>>129019764
>being mentally incapable of percieving a technocratic government instead of a political one
Never change, never change

>>129006662
Any ideology that doesn't take humans as they are is doomed to fail. Ancaps suffer from the same type of optimism as commies.

Far less chills and lefties then a month ago

>>129019764
> pretending that the state is the only force capable of expanding its powers and becoming to radical, and that the majority is not capable of doing this, or that the public will not become tyrannical towards minorities or those without power
You're nothing but a communist who distributes liberty instead of wealth, for no reason and without any acknowledgment of consequences other than dismissing them with circumstantial situations that aren't actual arguments

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>>129020454
>a technocratic government doesn't involve politics
Now you're just talking non-sense like a common leaf. I'm out.

I'm all for natsoc stuff, but I very highly value my privacy and freedom. I cannot see my liberties or privacy respected under national socialism or fascism. I also have no guarantee that either system won't just go power mad, have no guarantee that the system won't start betraying the people, and have no guarantee that they won't bow to corruption or foreign influence. In the end I can only truly trust myself, and the rights that give me power SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Do you have answers to this?

>>129021111
>oh noes I don't have any arguments other than muh expanding state without realizing literally any entity is capable of expanding and not one fucking thing changes if I allow corporations to do the same thing oh noes, better drop a meme and run away smugly

Despite what you may think 4chan is filled with children and teenagers. By no means all, even a majority, but i would say a significant amount of 'Anarcho-' anythings are teenagers.

Same way Communism and other fairy unworkable pipedream bullshit is to young leftists, Anarcho-Capitalism (and even most shades of Libertarianism 2bh) is to young rightists.

>>129021392
Look at US history. Soon after the Constitution was ratified some people sought to make it illegal to criticize the government. Immediately treading on the first amendment. Our history is full of that. There are more exceptions to your liberty than there are enumerated articles in the bill of rights.
If this has been the case, and the Republic has failed to protect your rights, it actually started failing immediately after it was established, then why would you fear another system? If the alternative at worst only offers the status quo then what is lost in trying?

>>129021392
There is no answer because even in muh anarchofaggotism you have no guarantee someone with more power than you will violate your rights
Might > right, there is NEVER a guarantee that rights will be preserved as long as might exists, and freedom is unequal so necessarily power will be disproportionately distributed and you will end up being subjected to the ones with more power.
The answer is to get the fuck over it, and try to create a system with less room for tyranny.
Try reading Democracy in America if you want to truly understand the issue, but it is a paradox, there is no answer, because you are always a slave no matter what you do.

>>129007598
>muh degeneracy

>>129021392
>>129022732
Our contemporaries are constantly excited by two conflicting passions; they want to be led, and they wish to remain free: as they cannot destroy either one or the other of these contrary propensities, they strive to satisfy them both at once. They devise a sole, tutelary, and all-powerful form of government, but elected by the people. They combine the principle of centralization and that of popular sovereignty; this gives them a respite: they console themselves for being in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians. Every man allows himself to be put in leading-strings, because he sees that it is not a person or a class of persons, but the people at large that holds the end of his chain.

By this system the people shake off their state of dependence just long enough to select their master, and then relapse into it again. A great many persons at the present day are quite contented with this sort of compromise between administrative despotism and the sovereignty of the people; and they think they have done enough for the protection of individual freedom when they have surrendered it to the power of the nation at large. This does not satisfy me: the nature of him I am to obey signifies less to me than the fact of extorted obedience.
>>129022521
Nations, as well as men, almost always betray the most prominent features of their future destiny in their earliest years.

>>129010371
Because their feelings are more important than your well being.

>>129018841
No nigger, good luck to you when your severed head is in my hand.

>>129020110
I will beat the slovak out of you.

>>129013195
Why? To save the weak and stupid from themselves?

>>129028127
Because no man can define the value of another man, all men have implicit value, and to say otherwise is tyranny in and of itself, making you no different than the tyrants you wish to overthrow.

>>129026457
That's hot

>>129020169
this. Statists get the McGas®

>>129028587
So we need tyranny in the form of oppressive governance to save ourselves from the "tyranny" of letting people who make bad decisions fail? What makes them worth more than a person who can succeed on their own merit? What justifies taking from the self sufficient to give to the parasite?

Newfag.

Anyway I think libertarianism is a ideal end goal. But humans aren't ready for that now and they may never be. For such a system to work your average citizen would have to be very intelligent and empathetic.

>>129020169
Freedom of speech can only exist on public property. Private property owners can ban whomever they like due to freedom of association.
Still, communist propaganda will not be tolerated even on their own property.

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>>129033972
Which is why they should be forced to live by our peaceful ways.

AnCap is the philosophy of peace!

>>129019574
Your personal responsibility is not getting an oven full of fully-baked Jews and their half-baked arguments dropped on your head.
You try to get your point across through strength, we'll see how that goes when your precious state decides you're the next one whose house will be given to niggers.

>>129034914
Hey I know this guy.

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>>129018504
Yeah you're getting the oven.
t. /lrg/

>>129015911
It will quickly become your problem if they decide a peaceful man like you is an ideal target.
The best defense is offence. Keeping them at bay is a priority.

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>>129018504
Johnson is a fag. Now go bake me a cake nigger.

>>129035152
AnCap taqiyya?
>>129035239
I might as well be a tripfag when I'm the only Slovak libertarian here.

>>129006662
That's why they all talk in ideal terms of 'should.'
You don't have any responsibility to create a practical system if you take the moral high ground.

>>129037505
All white ancap Sharia rape gangs when?

And yeah, you're the only Slovak I've ever seen here.