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Take this shit for example: Loyalty is now apparently considered something negative...

What the fuck has happened to our world?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/814491/donald-trump-james-comey-latest-updates-congress-russia-fbi
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>>128994145
In the leftist mindset loyalty is the hardest thing... they are never loyal nor respecting
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>>128994145
Demanding loyalty from a person is some godfather shit. Loyalty is something you earn, not something you demand.
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>>128994145
>demands loyalty to america
>but comey had already given loyalty to hillary
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>>128994145
It's nothing new that virtues are a bad thing nowadays.
I'm not a christfag but the 7 virtues were a good thing.
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>>128994412
I think it's pretty acceptable to tell someone to do their job properly and stop giving into hysteria.
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>>128994412
No, if you are working for the president you need to have loyalty for him... please stop your madness
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>>128994145
Comey didn't owe loyalty to Trump. Law enforcement should be impartial and have no loyalties to anything but justice.
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>drumpftards can't understand that demanding 'loyalty' from someone currently investigating your campaign is inappropriate
You are all mentally underdeveloped.
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>>128994412
The president MUST demand loyalty and if they are not loyal they belong in Mexico
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>>128994592
>demanding
Comey eventaully gave him "honest loyalty" and Trump accepted. What he fuck is that? Clearly this is all ambiguous bullshit.
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>>128994412

Aren't all government employees supposed to be loyal to the government and the president? Isn't that the reason they do all the background checks and polygraph testing?

Why would you need employees you can't trust?
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>>128994548
Then what does asking for loyalty have to do with obstruction? Lol retards
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>>128994145
Judiciary is separate from the executive. Asking loyalty to the executive is treason against the US constitution. Maybe Trump believe he's running a corporation.
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>>128994145
what do you call it when the cucks get fucked
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>>128994731
>what is separation of powers
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>>128994592
>Wasn't handling the investigation personally
Whew lad.
>Presidents routinely replace heads of agencies
It was strange he didn't do it sooner like the presidents before him. Oh wait tha'ts right hes not a born crooked ass politician and is figuring out how shit works.
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This was in my local newspaper this morning talking about this.
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>>128994894
>hes not a born crooked ass politician and is figuring out how shit works
Or maybe he's not very smart.
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>>128994744
We are laughing at you now.
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>>128994851

There's a difference between Loyalty and Subservience, or Loyalty to a Fault.

Also OP
> Express.co.uk

Sage.
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>>128994636
>how to stay in his little bubble
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>>128994851
not the same thing.
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>>128995042
>Subservience
Muslims need to be subservient by definition. Is Trump starting a new caliphate?
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>>128994423
>Exactly
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>>128994145
I get the feeling the press may have hyped this up too highly and now they're doubling down, looking for smoking guns that simply aren't there. If anything, this vilified Don
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>>128994731
>Aren't all government employees supposed to be loyal to the government and the president?
no, they're suppose to be loyal to the constitution, America and its people

>Isn't that the reason they do all the background checks and polygraph testing?
that's to make sure they're not shitbags and criminals and also if they're in positions of power or where they'd have access to secret info they wont end up being blackmailed
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>>128994851
>Separation of powers
Dude bro, Law enforcement is executive branch.
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1. the only new info in Comey's statement is that he DID tell Trump he was not being investigated.

2. If Trump is impeached over this there is no way in hell the Senate convicts and removes him from office.

3. If Trump is impeached and not removed, he will not be impeached again, because that's just how things go.

4. So, the best thing for Trump would be to go ahead and get it over with and serve 4 years doing whatever the fuck he wants to do.

But the actuality of the thing is that everyone will grandstand today and the MSM will go crazy AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO ANYBODY.
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>>128994145
even a president has to earn loyalty. he doesn't get to walk into the job and demand it.

he can expect the people who work for him to follow, because that's what the country needs them to do. but that isn't exactly loyalty. loyalty is what keeps them on his side when shit hits the fan

this is not something you get to to twist into some left/right bullshit. not to mention, if there is a guy trump certainly doesn't get to demand loyalty from, it's the fbi chief. professionalism obviously dictates the guy doesn't fucking commit treason, that is not the same thing as unwavering 'loyalty' to the president.

he was investigating who he was supposed to

this was some clusmy hamfisted shit from trump
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>>128995029
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>Please join my executive branch of the government, but feel free to fuck me over for no reason, whatever
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>>128994851
>>what is separation of powers

You watch too many Hollywood movies...
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>>128995211
The FBI investigates possible violations of federal law for the Department of Justice and conducts intelligence operations within the executive branch of the U.S.
As such it can't be loyal to the executive should the DoJ be investigating the executive.
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>>128995407
Exactly. I'm a leaf and you're not.
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>>128995354
Why is it weird when trump does something his predecessors do? (both left and right)
Liberal logic is seriously underpants gnome tier. You skip important critical steps to arrive at your conclusions. TWO SCOOPS IMPEACH BLUMPF NOW!!!!!
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>>128994412
>Demanding loyalty from a person is some godfather shit. Loyalty is something you earn, not somethi
I'll be sure to tell that to my country the next time I commit treason.
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>>128995582
Do you think the director is actually doing the investigation himself. At most hes kept up to date. You are a nigger.
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>>128994145
>Loyalty is now apparently considered something negative...
In a democratically elected government -- yes.

In a MAFIA FAMILY -- no.
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>>128995795
I know you're trolling but I'll bite anyways.
He might not be but he certainly can remove resources to such investigations if the president "he must be loyal to" asks him to.
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>>128995332
>Flynn won't get fired
>The Travel Ban won't get blocked
>The wall won't be defunded
>Sessions won't recuse himself
>Trump won't bomb Assad
>Bannon won't be demoted
>Trump won't dine with the Saudis
>Trump won't sell weapons indirectly to ISIS
>Dubke won't resign
>Spicer won't get demoted
>Comey won't testify
>The FBI isn't investigating Trump campaign
>The Russians never interfered with the election or colluded with Trump campaign
-YOU ARE HERE-
>Trump won't get impeached
>Trump won't resign in shame
>Trump won't try to spin this as a 4D chess maneuver
>Trump won't have everything he's done be reversed
>Trump won't set back the right for 30 years
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>>128995821
>In a democratically elected government -- yes.
wrong
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>>128995042
White house is not McDonald's. It's not enough just to show up on job you idiot.

tmw left is looking for arguments to make loyalty look bad.. kys fagot
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>>128996004
I want so much to love my leafy neigbors when I see them, but you sir are one of the ones who deserve the day of the rake.
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>>128994145
they mean loyalty as in
"you need to be loyal to me, don't say anything about what happened, capiche ?"

indeed seems taken out of context, and the full quote was different iirc.
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>>128995700
if Trump was supposed to be different, why are you giving him a pass to do the same shit the people he is supposed to differ from did before him?
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>>128996078
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>>128994145
No the media is just setting a narrative. Comey thought the conversation with Trump could be a prerequisite for an inappropriate relationship. He goes on to say that he never felt that Trump tried to influence him in any way but he wanted to make sure the encounter was written down in case something else pops up in the future.
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>>128995110
>referring to what?
I'm curious to see if you're really that dumb...
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>>128994851
FBI is part executive branch. Making Comey answerable to Trump.
Separation of powers refers to between executive legislative and judicial
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>>128995187
Again, too many Hollywood movies. Get real.
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>>128996390
Yeah, I screwed up.
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>>128995354
>expect the people who work for him to follow

How do you follow if you're not loyal?
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>>128996156

Are you talking about Trump just walking in?

Because i'm agreeing a certain degree of Loyalty is most definitely necessary for all members of any federal government, and well within the right of the commander in chief of any government to demand of what are effectively (for 4-8 years in Americas case) his employees.
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>>128995704

>next

Reported to ISIS for past treason
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>>128996630
slavshit, imagine you have a boss that is an incompetent prick. he is still your boss, so you follow his orders. you are not loyal to him however, so when management comes by and asks you your opinion on him, you tell them bad things about him.
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>>128996174
Because I'm right or because you don't really mean it when you say you want to love your leafy neighbours.
BTW we love the US and its people. Sure its not utopia there but we can get along.
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>>128994731
All branches of the justice department are loyal to the us constitution, or should be.

They cant act on anything that isnt a law or a bill or whatever.

The president is the ceo of america.
Has some legislative sway and can help shape policy, and also gets to say who we attack, congress can vote it down, but congress cant choose targets.
I could be wrong on that last part.

The Justice branch are like the workers that carry out the policy.
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>>128994731
No, they're loyal to the constitution, not the president. Comey took an oath to be loyal to the constitution.
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>>128996368
Like OP said: subservience and full submission to his will and desire. Trump was put there by God, right?
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>>128994412
>i need you loyal to me and not leaking documents to reporters illegally
nah, you fucking retard. i expected obama people to be loyal to him and i expect bush people to be loyal to him. trump can get people who are loyal to him as well. it's especially true he needs loyal people when it's him against the fucking world and they're leaking shit and lying like crazy
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Where does it say that you have to kiss the president's ass? Because I'm not seeing it.
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>>128996470
sorry you don't like it but that's how its suppose to be
the FBI director took this oath when he got the job
>I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
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>>128997086
Yes, the WH needs to be loyal to the president to run well. Elsewhere nope.
That's because there's ton loads of shit to leak. Some is bound to get out. Imagine how much hasn't been leaked yet. I'm surprise we don't see more on wikileaks.
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>>128997216
>kiss the president's ass

We're gonna need a bigger mouth.
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>>128997216
>I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion
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>>128996937
>Because -faggot.
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>>128994145
Current year
>free speech is violence
>loyalty is treason
>racial segregation is good

What the fuck is going on man? This is what happens when narrative supercedes reality.
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>>128997526
>>racial segregation is good
but this one isn't bad
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>>128994145

oh god damn you retard.
this is totally out of context, for sure loyality is still something positive, but the question is loyality to whom.
loyality to an orange ape or loyality to the country and law.
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>>128994145

Loyalty is retarded. If the President does something wrong, you call him out on it. You're just another lacky if you follow every word.

If my son or mother robbed a store, I'm not going to defend them or take their side. They did something wrong and they have to face the consequences.
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>>128997413
Please
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>>128997054

You misspelled hillary
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>>128994145
>Loyalty is now apparently considered something negative

The FBI is independent, you know. Does /pol/ not know basic facts that we learned in middle school? Or did most of /pol/ not make it to even high school?
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>>128994145
>Bosnian not understanding how a non-corrupt government is supposed to work.
I shocked.

Also, let me guess: You're a Bosnian Serb, right?
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>>128997570
Whats it like tying your identity to your race/ethnicity? Is it too difficult to be a self made individual? Hows that herd life treating you, üntermensch?
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>>128994412
Loyalty is what you expect and respect is what is earned.
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>>128997609

Yes, we know, you're jew, and you hate all christian values, fuck of shlomo!
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>>128995674
>I'm a leaf
That's not something you brag about.
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>>128997871
>Bosnian can't into logic
Are you having a stroke, retard?
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>>128997825
>flag
Quit while you're ahead. Go lurk some more, you're already looking like an idiot..
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>>128997887
But it is. We proudly display our leafy flag wherever we travel.
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>>128994791
This.
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Hey guys, what do you think of Trump's work so far?

Please vote here
http://www.strawpoll.me/13138793
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>>128997973

Oh i see you are new here.. Why don't you take a moment and get familiar with how things work here..

https://www.4chan.org/faq

Also if you have any questions regarding our voting system, feel free to contact mods.

Welcome to 4chan.

.kys lurker
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>>128994791
>>128998090
DOJ =/= Judiciary
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>>128998047
So does ISIS...
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>>128994533
and at the same time investigate him fairly? Get bent. The President is not above the law.

You are being pro-corruption right now. Trump is a lowly public servant, not a fucking king. He is supposed to pick a director that serves Americans, not to serve him. I dont want the FBI director loyal to anyone, I WANT HIM TO WORK FOR ME, the fucking taxpayer. Trump isnt representing anyones interests but hiw own when he demands loyalty and that is not what anyone sent him to washington to do. We sent him to represent US.
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>>128998882
>Trump is a lowly public servant

potus is now low-tier....
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So Trump demanded loyalty then:

Asked Comey to go easy on Flynn for his phone call with Kislyak AFTER the FBI said they weren't charging him. (CNN has a video on the 13 Feb, convo was on 14)

Said Flynn was involved and other stuff, and that "satellite associates" may have been in the wrong. Said it would be good to get to the bottom of it.

Asked Comey to tell the American people the truth, that he personally was not under investigation.

Some loyalty. Reminder that Lugenpresse CNN had "anonymous sources" calling Trump a liar when he said Comey informed him three times that he was not under investigation, and Trump was telling the truth, corroborating his justification for the firing. They have less than nothing. They have only their lies and misdirections.

I hate them.
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>>128994894
I like how you just make up your posts.

The FBI director gets a ten year term, and usually does not change with administrations. Obama gave the last one an extension of two years before appointing Comey, who was a George Bush appointed attorney general at the time (Comey was a republican appointed official originally).

Also, comey was getting daily briefings on the investigation.
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>>128998416
see >>128995582

You're welcome
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>>128998882
Didn't vote for Obama....twice?
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>>128994145
loyalty is not anything negative, but demanding loyalty from an impartial bureau that is supposed to be independent from any possible biases when conducting investigations or handling itself in general, the president "demanding" "loyalty" from the head of the fbi is considered negative.

>inb4 shill
>inb4 shariablue
>inb4 cuck
>inb4 jew

i love trump, voted for him, greatest decision ive ever made second to marrying my wife, hill and the dems are corrupt, but im a man who can recognize the importance of seperation of powers, and i assume you were asking a legit question so i tried to answered it legitly
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>>128997216
>domestic enemy.

If you're not loyal to your president you're an enemy.
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>>128994145
Idiot, law enforcement is impartial and loyal to the law, no one is above it not even Mr orange president man
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>>128998229
>Bosnian has the audacity to act as authority
>He probably only just got internet in his shitty country
>Acts like he knows how a government should work
Just die, honestly
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>>128997615
Go ahead mention it, so that i can tell you how stupid you really are lurker...
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>>128999289
Nice mudslinging. But this whole thread is still pro-corruption and encourages more cronyism, all to uphold precious conservative values at all costs. You guys are making the case that you dont care the means. No one ever argued about Obama demanding loyalty or 'ur fired'.
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>>128999615
>...
Holy shit Bosnian cuck, just kill yourself
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>>128999621
to add to this, no one ever argued that Obama 'should have demanded more loyalty from department heads' and that he was 'not autocratic enough'

These are very new opinions you guys have. Have fun developing them until a liberal head of state makes you eat your words.
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>>128999512
>refers to flag again
Go read my reply once again, maybe you'll get it you mongoloid.
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>>128994412
The way I see it, the loyalty Trump wants is more on the line of not leaking sensitive shit.
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>>128994145
>loyalty is bad now reeee! what do! how live!

t. representative of a mafia-run state
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>>128994995
yuge
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>>128999913
What's your fucking point? Are you implying there are certain rules here? Are you sure you aren't "le newfag"?
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>>128998882
normally I'd agree but desperate times call for desperate measures. Our God-Emperor requires loyalty in order to purge the corruption in today's world.
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>>128994145
kings ask for loyalty. A president can't ask for loyalty. It's a sutile way to say "do what I say, let Flynn case go"

Impeachment is happening folks..
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This?

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/07/flashback-robert-gates-said-he-felt-pressured-to-tell-obama-he-would-be-loyal/?utm_source=site-share
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>>128998991
That's kind of the fucking point, he's a person too, not a fucking king. That's kind of the whole point of the fucking country and the form of government. It's kind of what the entire fucking country was founded on.
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>>129000397
The most incriminating thing is that Trump asked everyone else leave to room first. He knew making demands to Comey would look bad but he did it anyway.
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>>128994809
what a shitty fucking shop job
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LOCK HIM U-
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Or maybe this?

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2014/01/19/cbs-s-schieffer-questions-robert-gates-s-loyalty-president-obama
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FBI is supposed to be neutral when it comes to the president/executive branch.

Ask Nixon that one.
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>>128999829

>Holly fuck is he dumb...

You want another clue, you fucking noob? It's 65 degrees outside.
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>>129000579
I feel sorry for anyone who gets their news from /pol/ jpegs. Most of them are propaganda from people with an agenda to push. If you even opened that, you just poisoned yourself for no good reason.
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>>129000783
Anon you've gone full retard
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>>129000231
>KEK

>Still doesn't get it literally dumber than a day old nigger.

kys
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>>128999988
This, everyone around him is leaking shit left right and centre, there's nothing wrong with asking for a bit of loyalty. Anyone would think he asked the guy to swear a blood oath.
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>>128999988
HH
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>>128997864
this
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All this bullshit talk about loyalty is disgusting. Where was Obama's loyalty to the tax payer when he paid Iran billions in ransom money? Apart from being the first nigger president he was also the first nigger president to negotiate with terrorists. Fuck leftists and fuck Obama.
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>>129004439
>first nigger president to negotiate with terrorists
And Trump makes his first foreign visit to Saudi Arabia. Pottery
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>>128994548
Sad part is that you think Comey is impartial. Lol
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>>128994791
Lol at your definition of treason. Y'all are some desperate motherfuckers
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>>128996012
This is such a sad post.

Half of that shit never happened dipshit
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>>129006241
Yeah, do tell what hasn't come true on that list?
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>>128998882
Nice virtue signaling.
You didn't give a rats ass about honesty with all of the Obama cover ups and stonewalling but now you want to split hairs with words. Lol

You fucking liberals are a plague to every society
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>>128999905
You better be patient because it'll be a long time until that happens
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>>129000397
Lol. Stick to your shit country Spic
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>>128994145
The FBI must always maintain a non-partisan unbiased approach so demanding loyalty to a president is inappropriate at best
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>>128994412
Let me remind you of the branches of government, and how the FBI works for the executive branch, and the President is the head of that branch.
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>>129006426
> Wall hasn't been Defunded... its going to be big and beautiful with solar panels on top
> Bannon hasn't gotten demoted
> Trump isn't selling weapons indirectly to ISIS, if anything he's ended all Obama's hold over Slush Funds
> Spicer hasn't been Demoted
> No proof of Russian and Trump Campaign collusion
> Trump won't get impeached
> Going to be 2 Term President and go down in History
> Enjoy 8 yrs of salty tears faggot
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>>128994321
fpbp. Truer words have never been spoken about the Democrats.
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>>128994145
>Loyalty is now apparently considered something negative.


welcome to the modern world.
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Asking for loyalty from the FBI director as President, especially when you essentially corner him at a dinner between just the two of you, is very inappropriate, but also very legal. Go look up the definition of "obstruction of justice." It requires a bribe. Explicitly. It's not wishy washy or maybe/maybe not. The law says you need a bribe.
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>>129007019
I take it that Trump's "loyalty" he "needed" was don't do anything that would hurt me and Comey being a good lawyer knew to say fuck no. He'll be honest, but can't just turn a blind eye or squash something just because. Can't do that.
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>>129006890
When does the Wall construction start?

Bannon has been demoted back in Feb

Trump has just sold weapons to Saudi Arabia aka ISIS
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>>129007027
for loyalty from the FBI director as President, especially when you essentially corner him at a dinner between just the two of you, is very inappropriate, but also very legal. Go look up the definition of "obstruction of justice." It requires a waifu. Explicitly. It's not wishy washy or maybe/maybe not. The law says you need a waifu.
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>>128995582
>conducts intelligence operations within the executive branch of the U.S.

wut? the FBI conducts intel and counter intel operations with the US borders. it can, if necessary, investigate the executive branch

or NOT investigate, or do a shitty job of investigating like Comey did for Shillary and conducting her nefarious business dealings in her basement server operation.

but what difference does it make?
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>>128994145
Lindsey Graham just bent the knee to Trump on Fox and Friends.
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>>129007027
Correction, but even if we had a completely impartial Congress acting as jury:

>Obstruction of justice is defined in the omnibus clause of 18 U.S.C. § 1503, which provides that "whoever . . . . corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)." Persons are charged under this statute based on allegations that a defendant intended to intefere with an official proceeding, by doing things such as destroying evidence, or intefering with the duties of jurors or court officers.

You can't prove any of that.

There is no case.
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>>128994412
this
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>>129007384
Trey Gowdy will put an end to this today by asking Comey were you threatened? Where you influenced? Were you obstructed? Were you impeded?

And wihen Comey answers no to all of those another liberal meme will be dead.
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>>129006747
>The FBI must always maintain a non-partisan unbiased approach
see
>>129007359
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>>129007558
Nah, Graham just said he already spoke with Mueller and there is no Obstruction or else he would not allow Comey to testify.
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>>128994145
take the ultimate red pill
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves
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>>128998882
>Comey
>Fairly investigating people
I want to know what planet you're living on that granting immunity to people destroying evidence while under investigation is "fair."
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>>128996012
THIS
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>>128994145
We are speaking about fbi director fbi must have no site in politic
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Comey is an incompetent fucktard. Of course he's not loyal, he goes where the money is.

discord/D3kdbDZ
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>>128994145
Can you imagine this shit flying in ANY other industry?
>You wanted to see me sir?
>Yes. I want you to stop investigating Richard dipping his nuts in the deep fryer. SWEAR LOYALTY TO ME.
>Uhhh can't do that sir, need to not let people get food poisoning.
(1 month later)
>SWEAR LOYALTY TO ME AND FORGET ABOUT RICHARD AND THE FRYER
>Sir why are we having a private 1 on 1 dinner?
>SWEAR loyalty to me
Fishy as fuck no matter how you look at it.
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>>128994412
he already earn it by becoming president through legal meaning
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>>128994145
>I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
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>>128994636
NOBODY COME NEAR MY SAFE SPACE!
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>>129006747
Then why is the president allowed to appoint and fire the director of the FBI? Deep state agencies are not guaranteed or protected by the constitution, so I find it curious people are so quick to defend them.
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>>128994145
The express is a propoganda rag for the left, they will push a negative no matter what.

Think CNN x 100
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>>128994412
>implying states are any different from big ass mafias anyway
the eternal fingolian hive insect
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>>128994145

Are you retarded? The law enforcement agencies are supposed to be loyal to the country, not the President.

Civil servants swear an oath to defend he constitution. Not to defend Trump.
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>>129007384

Impeachment is held to a much looser standard of evidence than a criminal case. This is absolutely grounds to raise articles of impeachment.
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>demanded
>expected

very different
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>>128994145
Loyalty to the president is at the bottom of the oath, after people and the Constitution.
You might know this if you actually cared for the USA and not just for a handout.
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>>129011468
Im not saying there was a Holocaust.
Its just that people say there was one they survived.
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>If you're going to work at this McDonalds, it'll be a lot easier if the two of us have a good relationship, right sport?
FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT BOSS DEMANDED I BE HIS MANSERVANT. FUCKING ASSHOLE, WHO DIED AND MADE HIS GAY ASS KING!
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>>129011543
the two things aren't mutually exclusive you fuckwad, he can swear loyalty to trump and also swear loyalty to america... there is no mention of hierarchy
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>>128994412

Look at him in OP's pic. The Donfather
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>>129011987

Read the FBI oath. He only swore it to the constitution.

We don't swear loyalty to individuals like you do, Ahmed. This is a republic.
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>>129011543
>Loyalty to the president is at the bottom of the oath, after people and the Constitution.

>>129012641
>Read the FBI oath. He only swore it to the constitution.

doesn't this contradict?
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>>128994412
>Loyalty is something you earn
Yes and Trump earned it, by being elected as the president of the united states.
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>>128998882
>I WANT HIM TO WORK FOR ME
EXACTLY. Trump is YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE (you are living in a republic not a direct democracy). Trump (/Congress) is representing YOU in the government, being loyal to you and being loyal to Trump (/Congress) is the exact same thing.

Obviously the loyalty has to stop if your representative is acting against the law, but until the evidence for that exist the FBI has to be loyal to YOUR representative.
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>>129015304
Thats not how loyalty works

Comey being loyal to Trump, would not make comey loyal to me. Loyalty he was asking for was personal loyalty.
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>>128994145
America is not a dictatorship, you don't swear loyalty to the president.
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>>129015792
>Loyalty he was asking for was personal loyalty.
As I said. Trump is your representative and as long as he is representing you loyally to him and loyalty to you are the same thing.

If it is evident that Trump is NOT representing you (e.g. by breaking laws, conspiring against the interest of the country) then Comey owns not a shred of loyalty to Trump.
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Loyalty to the elected Administration.

We did not elect the Deep State/NWO to continue with the Bush/Clinton/Obama Agenda.
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>>128994145
drumpf isnt the king he doesnt "deserves" loyalty
The only loyalty comey should be towards the country
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>>128994145

where did the bad man touch you James?
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>>128994145
Trump is not a king. Demanding personal loyalty, not to the office of president or the country is a fucking red flag.
But you righties love red flags flying over the white house anyway, amirite.
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>>129016921
Thats the fucking issue. What if Comey was a spineless crap who wanted to keep his prestigious job that gives him a private jet? And Trump gained his loyalty, and influenced Comey to stop investigating against his better judgement?

It would only be 'loyalty' to me if I was okay with possibly having a criminal President.
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>>128994145
If he's not loyal to the president, isn't he committing treason? Help me here, burgers.
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>>129018259
Then they should both go to Prison, without question, but unless it has been proven that Trump is in any way committing treason against the people, Comey needs to be loyal to him.
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Loyalty is the opposite of 'everyone and everything has its price'. Loyalty is a value tied up in patriotism and love of our country. Years and years ago, immigrants coming to the US were thrilled to pledge their loyalty to their new country. They demonstrated that loyalty to their children and community. Now it is hard to imagine immmigrants feeling loyalty to the US! And that's why they dont assimilate. These days the whole concept of loyalty is old fashioned and irrelevant.
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>>128994321
>>128994145
If your watching the questioning. Trump seemed to be holding Comeys job as leverage for the loyalty. That's not nice. But it seems reasonable if you think he should be loyal to the president but in fact he should be loyal to the country 1st above all else.
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>>128994145
>he demanded loyalty
>that is bad
fuck this stupid ass faggot world
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