Why do Conservashits vote against their own economic interests?

>>128976308
Becasue democrats only care about virtue signalling to minorities. Has the democrats even attempted to break into the deep south?

how has "voting for your economic interests" worked for blacks.

spoiler: the only economic interest your rep supports is the lobbyist. they don't give a shit.

>>128976308
>Voting for more gibs to destroy our society

>>128976308

the South has only been voting GOP since Nixon. Before then is was Democrat.

>>128976448
>When the left cares about anything it's just "virtue signalling"
>You should be like the right and be openly sociopathic!
I love this argument. It's almost as the.

>Kill all the niggers and jews and muslims and Indians and Asians and Native Americas and...!
>Democrats are the REAL racists!

>>128978959
*almost as good as the argument

>>128976308
niggers have been voting for Democrats even longer and they're poorer

>>128977863
Came here to say this. Thanks Muhammad

Do not respond to shill threads without sage.

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>>128976308
Poor black democrats have been voting democrat for generations

AND THEY'RE STILL POOR.

>>128977863
This. It's astonishing how dense these libtards are. I bet they also think Southern slave owners were Republicans and Lincoln was a Democrat.

>b-but they just changed places, the Republicans then became the Democrats of now!
Yes, I'm sure on some good day they just magically swapped their viewpoints

>>128977863
>>128979159
The left and right haven't changed AT ALL. Same beliefs. The parties just switched. The Democrats of old are the exact same people as the Republishits of today. Keep ignoring real history though.

>>128979362
See: >>128979388

It's astonishing how dishonest these conservashits are.

>>128978959
>implying /pol/ is an accurate representation of republicans

At least they have a hope of some sort voting republican. Democrats being as ironic and selfish as they are dont give a shit about conservatives and thats that, why would they do so anyway.

>>128979752
It is. The truth that nobody speaks is that the left and the right are NOT fucking equal. AT ALL. The left is varied and has many philosophies and many degrees. The right is monolithic. It's stupid people who want to dumb down society, who are racist and shill for despotism (generally theocratic) and capitalism. You can scarcely point to a right wing extremist view that all right wingers don't hold to. The same is not true of the left.

>>128976308
Because the Democrat party is the antithesis of white America's social interests.

>>128979424
>>128979388
>be Democrat senator, born in the 1920s
>suddenly 1960s
>a staff member suddenly bursts into your office: "sir, the parties have switched, we're the progressives now!"
>become a progressive leftist

Yes I'm sure that's how it went

>>128979913
>History clearly didn't happen because of this strawman argument I'm trying to build. Nothing personal kid.
Don't cut yourself on your katana.

>>128979388
>>128979424
>muh switch

Top Kek.

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>>128976308

>>128976308
Poor niggers all over the country have been voting democrat since they've been legally allowed, and they're still poor too. Huh....

>>128979981
>personal
Gtfo newfag, and take your ham-fisted attempt at rewriting history to suit your preferences with you

>>128976308
>vote for a candidate
>wtf I'm still not successful

Is this how libs really think?

>>128976308
>Democrat president for 8 years.

>Still poor.

>>128977863
this kys millenial fag also the kkk was a democrat organisation

>>128980080
>Be right wing
>Don't know history
Really explains a lot. Like why you morons think you can recreate the 1950s with the policies of the 1880s.

>>128980141
>Lie openly about history
>You're lying about history!
We call this projection. Also Down Syndrome.

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>>128976308
Conservatives who uphold the Bill of Rights are more selfless, wiser, and principled. Cultural values matter more to them than materialism, hits of candy, and cosmetic fixes. Conservatives know the value of independence and nationalism in preserving the ideals of western civilization and not selling their liberty away to foreign control.

Leftists who presume to know others people's "economic interests" are useful idiots who serve globalist tyrants.

>>128976308
democrats wouldn't help them either, they're fucked and its a damn shame

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>>128980288

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>>128980259
Funny how it isn't now though, isn't it? Almost...like the parties switched or something!

>>128976448
Hits the trifecta of proving nothing, being hypocritical, and actually incorrect.

>>128980270
>>128980319
Funny how your entire narrative stands and falls with a flimsy, haphazard attempt to glue together grave inconsistencies

>>128980270

My sweet summer child. For example Georgia didn't get a Republican governor again 2003. It stayed Democrat for a good bit of the 20th century

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Georgia

But tell me how I'm rewriting history

>>128980288
>Conservatives
>uphold the Bill of Rights
You retards literally hate the Bill of Rights. You only agree with ONE amendment in it. The rest you're vocally and openly against.

>>128980406
Your ignorance is not "my narrative".

>>128980411
The fuck is that supposed to prove?

>>128980317
>whites are the only ones preventing the US from turning into a swedes wet dream

>>128976308
>>128980083
/thread

>>128978959
Democrats believe the Nigger to be inferior to the white man. If that wasn't true then why gibesmedats? Why affirmative action?

>>128976308
>expecting Republicans to gibbs whitetrash more welfare
Not Republicans fault white trash fail to make themselves better.

This entire thread is typical conservashit behavior. Lie/be ignorant about everything, while believing that because you're being smug doing it, you're not a moron.

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Uh sweetie the democrats did well in the south until recently despite even the """"southern strategy""""

What /pol/ might might find interesting is that blacks voted overwhelmingly democrat long before JFK.

>>128976308

They don't.

Why do retarded commies post the same threads three times a day?

beer is cheap food is cheap own your own land and house neighbors you can trust family is tight can fix anything that breaks

>poor

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>>128980416
False. Your brain is trapped in a neocon bubble. RINOs are just as bad as many communists. They vote to pillage through globalism using different semantics.

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>>128976308
BENIS!!!!!!

>>128980481
That "muh switch" didn't happen like you think. Southern states stayed under Democrats for a large part of the civil rights movement. Poorer southern areas actually had more interracial interaction

>>128980411

Now show me the senators/represent Ives.

>>128980141
The Democratic Party lost the fiscal conservatives after the New Deal and lost the social conservatives after the Civil Rights Movement. That of course is a bit of an oversimplification, and it's also an oversimplification to say that the parties "switched", but broadly it's true. It doesn't stop being true just because you don't want it to be true.

Certainly it's asinine to act like the parties' platforms in the 19th century have any-fucking-thing at all to do with their platforms today.

>>128980447
>ur icknuhrunt

Nice arguments you got there, mr. Revisionismstein. Do tell me what happened with all those people having certain opinions, how would they switch places like that? It's not just the voting public, you're talking about an entire party infrastructure with thousands and thousands of people just either changing their entire opinions or all switching parties. In the last case, it would be a lot more convenient to, you know, not change parties

But keep parroting muh party switch theory, I'm sure some mongoloids on Plebbit will buy into it

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Republicans and democrats should all be hung on the day of the rope. Big media kikes will sweat when the people wake up to the two party dichotomy.

>>128979894
>0.5 cents added to your wallet

>>128976308
This looks like Slavland to me.

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>>128976308
BOOO
LAME
SAGE IT

>>128980696
https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_United_States_Senators_from_Georgia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_Georgia

Still overwhelmingly blue

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>>128980573
>I cant lose if I make things up and refuse to refute your argument!

>>128980813
>doesn't know about the Southern strategy

This nigga....

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>>128976308
Detroit had democrat mayor since the 70s

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>>128980520
Yes. Guess which culture and race predominantly engineered all of the western civilization you take for granted around you. You take for granted Caucasian cultures with higher average IQs and longer tail of 160+ IQs.

You live in the lap of luxury. You're like an ant born in sugar. You probably take the entire history of western civilization for granted because you're uneducated and worse yet bluepilled.

Respect reality or don't.

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>>128976308
Let's see the leaf come out

>>128976308

Because trailer trash and redneck hillbillys are stupid to get rich, and even conservative economic policies won't fix stupid. That's all there is too it.

>>128976308
you don't know what our interests are. we aren't selfish so it isn't about our own personal wealth.

>>128980573

>spergs out on slide thread
>everybody is stupid but me

Whatever is holding up your suicide put it away. God needs another angel.

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>>128980573
Still spreading that old myth. Here is a verifiable Fact: first Republican President was Lincoln. The Democrats wanted to keep slavery. Pic related.

How come lower IQ niggers vote different then higher IQ whites?

Whties be igorent

>>128976308
>Implying democrats would make their situation any better
Unlike what you think, it is easy to live as long as you have food, a pussy to fuck and a ceiling above your head.
It is easy to be poor. On the other hand, a great amount of effort and self discipline is requeried to get out of poverty, and most poor people simple don't think it is worth the effort. These people are acostumed to it because you don't miss what you never had, they don't know what is to not be poor.
Believe me, I'm brazilian, I understand everything there is to know about poverty. I've been there.

These people's poverty is not the government fault, it is theirs, and they know that.
The reason they vote republican is because of their moral values, they don't care about ecenomy as long as a politician is defending the right moral values.

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>>128979388
>>128979424
Fig. 1.

"The Switch"

>>128979388
are the democrats of the 1960's the democrats of today? because that is the party that fought against integration and civil rights.

>>128976308

>implying democrats will help these people

Saged you dumbass.

>>128979981
your educators have lied to you. read a book

>>128981276

Look at the kike telling us how rich them niggers are in blue states.

Now why would a kike call whites stupid for voting different then 85 IQ niggers?

>>128980288

>"conservative"

what is this meme? do you mean classical liberals? or libertarians? or ancaps? or nat socs?
or (((neo conservatives)))

>>128979894
(Different ID became I'm over LTE)
I'm gonna take the risk of taking a bait.

The right political spectrum is as diverse as the left. According to you libertarianism is the same as right wing fascism.
You call us racists while your many from your side promotes segregation based on race, but that's not racist because blacks benefit. Please.

Right wingers want capitalism? Who would've believed that those who want economical freedom shill for economic freedom.

>>128976308
Its got something to do with common decency.

liberals "economic interest" involves taking other peoples money. Conservatives would rather be poor than take other peoples money. Because they have their money taken from them. Which is why they choose to be poor. So that liberals cant take their fucking money. They vote conservative so all you leeches will starve to death. theyll get a job when they know their money wont be taken and given to jamal or paco so they can take care of their 12th fucking child.

>>128976308
Poor niggers have voted democrat and are still poor, so what's your point, retard?

>>128976308
Ban

>>128981941
>your many of your side promotes
Many of your side promote
I hate typing on a phone

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>>128981827
Yeah, it's not as if (((they))) noticeably have an agenda to serve globalists and conquer white nations through dysgenics as a top priority to get there or anything.

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>>128982070

>>128980780
>The Democratic Party lost the fiscal conservatives after the New Deal and lost the social conservatives after the Civil Rights Movement. That of course is a bit of an oversimplification, and it's also an oversimplification to say that the parties "switched", but broadly it's true. It doesn't stop being true just because you don't want it to be true.
yep, that is exactly what they've been teaching since 1988. Read any history book written before that and you'll find something different.

>>128976308
>Poor blacks have been voting Democrat for generations, and they're still poor.

Voting for neoliberalism and neo-Marxism isn't in the benefit of working class or poor whites, all it does is displace and vilify them.

>>128981827

>There are no stupid white people

...How fucking deluded are you?

And I didn't say blacks in blue states have it better.

Omg it's almost like some people are gonna end up poor no matter what and the government doesn't decide who succeeds and who doesn't

>>128981988
And you're both still a bunch of liberals drinking the cum of the market.

They vote for what they think is right even if it hurts them .

>>128976308

I just realized something a moment ago. Left wing liberals were always trying to find ways to call me a flip, because I'm Filipino-American, well shit, just drop the American. Eventually, I got pissed and now call them faggots. Now any time I use the word faggot, they call me a flip. Fuck these left wing liberal faggots.

What do you call left wing liberal people? You call them faggots.

>>128976308
Just because I'm not making money doesn't mean I should make the world a worse place for people who do.

>>128982149
It's taught because it's essentially true. As I said, it's an oversimplification; the Democrats' loss of the south was not immediate, it took a generation. Incumbents still have an edge in elections even when their parties are falling out of favor, parties that have been entrenched for decades don't disappear from a state overnight, and of course the very large black populations in many southern states buoyed the Democratic Party for some time (and they still do). As somebody mentioned above, the Republican's southern strategy was inextricable from the whole process.

"Read any history book written before 1988"? So ... read textbooks written as that process was still ongoing? You're not proving how well-read you are and how anybody who believes the "official narrative" is a sheep, you're demonstrating your ability to cherrypick sources that lack perspective because they were literally written in the midst of the history they were documenting.

Sometimes false narratives get repeated over and over until they're accepted as fact. This isn't one of those times.

>>128982292

Such a fucking Kike

First its all about the sheckles (poor, not smart enough to be rich, economics)

Now you are sperging over semantics and intentionally getting statistics bell curves and polls wrong.

You know it can't keep going on like this right?

The goy know more and more everyday.

>>128979388
No they never did. See >>128981425
The myth that the people switched parties was made up by Democrats to keep black people voting Democrat. The whites who were Democrat never switched to the Republican party.

Think about it, why would those evil racist white people suddenly start voting for the people who voted against segregation and for Civil Rights? Why would those evil racist white people suddenly stop voting for the politicians who tried to keep segregation and block Civil Rights?

The answer is of course they did not, and if you bothered to look at actual election maps you would see that. The South was staunchly blue, with the majority of whites being known as "Blue dog Democrats." It was actually noteworthy the first time those Southern states ever turned Red was for Regan in the '80s.

There is also a reason why it is the Democrat party, and only the Democrat party, that had known KKK members and supporters from the South serving as Senators and Congressmen up until the 2000s.

oh dear

>>128976308
love how you pretend its different for your communist party i mean hey look at Detroit lol

>>128976308
And poor inner city blacks have been voting Democrat for generations. Not only are they still poor, but their cities are literally crumbling around them due to corruption and incompetence.

>>128976308
Who cares? It means my family pays less in taxes, so I'll call it a win. Now if only capital gains taxes and the top bracket of the income tax would be reduced, I still lose close to half my official income (not including cap gains) to taxes (federal, local, and state), so that's fucking bullshit.

The reason is probably that rural poor white people are tired of being called racist by the left. If the left abandoned it's social policies (feminism, 'anti-racism' which is honestly just racism against whites, and other bullshit) it could probably gather up a shitload of poor whites.

>>128976449
This

>>128979894
> The group I'm a part of is not all extreme and has many different factions that believe different things, while the group I oppose is all the same and made up exclusively of the most extreme people in that group
If you say so. I happen to not be retarded, so I'm able to look to things objectively. As a result I understand that the right also has many philosophies and degrees.

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>>128982750
The best method is to lure jewish and white communists in playing on their own identity politics. Nothing makes communist synapses short circuit quite like assuming things, thinking you'll agree with them because of your background. Lower their defenses and wait. Then spring a few choice questions that highlight their hypocrisy and tear their SJW delusions to shreds. It's the stuff of prime youtube comedy.

>>128980780
>The Democratic Party ... lost the social conservatives after the Civil Rights Movement.
How you fucking numbnuts? The social conservatives had no reason to vote against the Democrats who supported their stance.

Did you fucking forget basic history that Democrat governors, Senators, and Congressmen, very publicly, fought against the Civil Rights movement? It was the Republicans, including Southern ones, who were very publicly, and did very publicly, get Civil Rights to pass.

The white Democrats of the South had no reason to switch parties because the Republicans of the South were not part of their interest, and the Republicans of every other part of the nation were staunchly against their beliefs.

That is why it "took a generation" (and then some) you fucking simpleton, and even then it mostly comes down to God and guns, as the whole racism thing is a complete non-starter to anyone under 60.

>>128982292
>not understanding rudimentary logic of the metrics of groups compared to individuals

>>128982750

I know I can't stop left wing liberals from calling me a flip or using my own personal info(like the pin numbers to my bank debit cards or my SSN #, or whatever information they can dig up about me), but I'm not going to let that stop me from using the word faggot. I'm just calling them what they are, a bunch of faggots. Anyone want to provide me with links to some websites that have good information and arguments against same-sex marriage?

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>>128976308

Because William F Buckly Jr built a coalition of conservative fusionists using American southern democrat rednecks and upper class neo-conservatives to rub shoulders with DC elitists, and they all operated under the republican/ conservative label

>>128976308
Poor southern whites still have lower crime rates than rich blacks

>>128976308
>endure generations of post-Civil War poverty imposed on them by pretentious Yankee assholes from the big cities in the Northeast
>refuse to vote for pretentious Yankee assholes from the big cities in the Northeast

>>128984142

They also have close families, live in high trust communities, have church, a shit load of freedom to just fuck off and shoot drink fish whatever.

I don't buy the economic interest voting for second but even if I did what sort of kike bullshit is it to call someone stupid for voting for their cultural interests over their economic interests?

It is all about the sheckles even in their propaganda.

>>128976308
We have the largest amount of black people, and we are also the poorest, least educated, and most obese. Do you really think its the white people who are driving the statistics up?

>>128980317

Why did Idaho get all the based chink manlets?

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Not reading this entire thread, but
>>128979913
>>128979388
are essentially right.

Take from a Senator from Texas who became President during the 60s that both pushed for Voting and Civil Rights legislation that helped minorities in his native South and castigated his own party from there forever after, while also simultaneously passing universal social programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Federal Funding of Education, Rural Development, etc) that has been widely supported by Whites of all ages ever since.

>>128983638
Southern blacks began to desert the Republican Party in the 40s with the New Deal. Kennedy and LBJ's (public) support for civil rights also played a role in starting the process (And beyond the passage of the Civil Rights Act there were several other high profile moments like Humphrey's DNC address that aligned the Democratic Party's most prominent members - at least publicly - with the Civil Rights Movement. There are at least a dozen other eamples). Goldwater's opposition of the CRA was also hugely important. Of course there were plenty of Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Movement and plenty of Republicans who were for it but rightly or wrongly, what matters most to public perception is what stance the highest-profile members of the party take. And no, that wasn't uniform either - actual history is rarely polite enough to conform exactly to any particular narrative - but there was a definite trend, starting in the late 40s, for the most prominent members of the Democratic Party to align themselves with the Civil Rights Movement and for Republicans to treat it ambivalently.

The process continued with the GOP's southern strategy, which is really what cemented the shift; before that the process was probably reversible. Or maybe you're going to argue that there was no "southern strategy" and it's all a bunch of revisionist propaganda, in which case I'm not interested in talking to you any longer - it's well-documented.

>>128976308
Poorest parts of Belgium overwhelmingly vote for socialists and they are still poor too.

>>128978959
>>128979894
This. Make them face the truth.

>>128980551
Because all white men (who are, unfortunately, still a majority) are racist and would rather hire an incompetent white than a competent PoC, so we need to compensate the PoC's who are jobless as a consequence.

And your usage of that word really shows your maturity and racial inclusiveness.

>>128976308
Because the Democraps have yet to offer a viable alternative.

>>128976308
niggers have been voting Democrats for generations AND THEY'RE STILL NIGGERS

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>>128980520
Shit, I just read again. I didn't mean the hostile wording of >>128981212 directed at you. No offense intended. Thought it was a diff poster.

>>128976308
Having more of your pay check taken is really not against your economic interests. Infinite taxation is salvation, negros.

kek.

>>128980573
>don't provide an argument
>no one argues back
>"OH WOW NO ONE CAN BEAT ME IN AN ARGUMENT YOU'RE ALL LYING LOOK HOW SMUG YYOOUU ARE"

>>128976491

This. For many people, the purpose of life isn't to make as much money as possible before you die.

You've been corrupted by our consumer society.

>>128982833
>The myth that the people switched parties was made up by Democrats to keep black people voting Democrat.

Ignoring that blacks, when first given the right to vote, voted republican (the party of Lincoln).

>>128976308
poor blacks have been voting dem for generations and they're still poor

>>128976308
high black populations

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>>128985830
You pay one way or the other for the basic modicums of Western Civilization. The only difference is that what you are spending is proportional to what you earn if it's an actual progressive tax instead of a flat fee or privately issued debt that can hang over you irrespective of other circumstances like a neck yoke.

Why care about where you money is going instead of how much you pay? The top income brackets and businesses operate this way which is why I can understand their opposition to higher tax-funded social spending, whether I agree with it or not. I cannot make the same case for any other group.

>>128976308
>their own economic interests
This is a buzzword memephrase, it means nothing anymore.

Sending their jobs to China and Mexico is not in their economic interests anyway.

>>128985474
>white men are a majority
Lmao nigger no they're not, asian men are, black men are 2nd place, then indian men, then whites, then mestizo hispanics and arabs.

White men are 4th place in population. If you hate then so much then go to a nonwhite country, there are tons of them and surely they must be doing great. It's not like only white men and the Japanese have stable societies. Just go.

>>128976308
>implying voting for a party will magically make you non-poor
>implying conservatives are racist when white conservative suburbanites are poor af

I cant stand these cringey leftist "may mays"

"The south" is code for "the black part of the country".

Any attack on the south as a collective is an attack on the failure of multiculturalism.

>>128976308
>rayciss whites are poor
>but also whites are all privileged.

So fucking left, it's Right.

they choose to be poor asshole. there not money hungry niggers.

>>128985474
>All non-whites are one group

>>128976308
Southerners have only been voting R since the 2000's which also concides with the time Texas & Atlanta became non shitholes.

>btfo

>>128976308
>implying democrats would be any better
>implying there's any solution other than national socialism
Who even gives a shit about "muh republicans, muh democrats" anymore besides boomers and retards?

>>128976308
Poor black liberals have been voting Democrat for generations

And they're STILL black.

>>128985980
It's only fair that if we produce more we should make more isn't it? Production per worker is the highest it's ever been

Yet wages haven't increased in almost 40 years, and the average person has less capital than ever.

>>128976308

Well, to be fair they had been voting DEMOCRATS up until the 70s, but leave it to the dems themselves to be as ignorant as goats

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OP and all the other lib-tards need to admit they lost this debate and move on

>>128976308
>>128976308
Ha ha ha that guy is a democrat on welfare and disability. people tend to forget most red necks vote democrat.

>>128979388
>democrats of 100 years ago
>racists that were pro white, anti minority
>social welfare gibs programs

>democrats of today
>racists that are pro minority, anti white
>social welfare gibs programs

It's almost like they've always been good at starting race wars that shouldn't exist, and spending other peoples money.

Republicans are hardly any better mind you.

>>128976308
>implying that every person wants to live a lavish life style. I know extremly wealthy people that live like any other person.
Maybe if the niggers did this instead of buying $500 basketball shoes, they could feed themselves

>>128976308
That's not true tho

>>128976308
Rednecks do have short generations but they've only been Republicans since Nixon.

>>128985474
>This much delusion
The "progressive" movement is perhaps one of the greatest ruses played on gullible shits like you for generations. Do you think the Democrats (or any lefty politician) care about niggers or other minorities? Nah mate, they've just got them on a different plantation, the welfare plantation. As long as they keep those niggers poor and hooked to the government teat they have a guarenteed voting base. Same with women, same with any special interest group that is susceptable to pork barreling.

>>128976308
sage

>>128976308
>Poor Detroit nigs have been voting Democrat for generations.
>Still poor.
Hmmmmm

>>128979388

1850's when the GOP formed was an abolitionist party, they were the SJW's of their day, while the Democrats were the good ole boy slaveowners and plantation farmers. After the Civil War, the Republican party became the "party of big business" It was in the late 1890's when the progressive movement took off and it started out in the Republican party, but after Wilson, it had moved to the Democratic party, and Republicans went back to being the party of the big business owners.

So basically there were 2 brief periods of time when the Republican party was anything more than the party for business OWNERS rather than employees, and that was under Lincoln and Roosevelt.

Otherwise the Republicans have always been interested in 2 things: Laissez-faire handling of the market (in other words, NOT handling it) , and low taxes for wealthy people.

They don't give a SHIT about the owner's employees, no no, those are lesser people, only fit to serve.

Now the Democrats changed from Agrarian slave owners to progressives, but the voting block that kept voting Democrat long after the Democrats had changed their platform from Agriculture to progressivism.

The real final switch happened in the 1960's when the now progressive Democrat party got into law the civil rights act. Then all the white hillbillies switched their votes to Republican, pretty much out of racism, even though the Republican party didn't support their economic interests.

It got reinforced when Reagan brought the evangelical movement into the Republican fold.

So basically southerners vote based on race and religion, particularly social issues that affront their religious beliefs like homosexuality and abortion.