We must not tolerate firearm violence

>>128953919
b-but uhh schools are gun free zones anon

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>33,000
>33

Masonic kike shill detected

nope government tyranny is just around the corner

>>128953919
>2nd Amendment
>allows anyone
Fucking Leaf

>>128953919
If you lived where I lived, you'd realize this is a complete waste of time. It's never going to happen and nothing is going to change. Don't know if it's possible to confiscate all the guns anyway.

>>128953919
ban black people and the problem will solve itself

>>128953919
Not enough gun violence. Please come here so I can shoot you, and stop seeing this ridiculous thread.

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>>128953919
>We all take off our shoes at the airport.
For the record I am against the government hiring unqualified, untrained, and underpaid EOD specialists to violate my 4th amendment rights.

OP's pic is invalid liberal bullshit. No one with balls wants this. I would pay $10,000 for the training and the right to carry a firearm on a plane. It's not like I don't already own frangible ammo and practice to be a horrible shot.

>>128953919
> taking your shoes off at the airport

Do Americans really do this? What a bunch of beta cucks lmao absolutely pathetic

>>128956320
Fuck off.
Breed more.

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>>128953919
False dichotomy.

Are we to ban all shoes then? Guns are already banned from carry-on in planes.

Ban All Shoes!

.
Btw, one could easily go from classroom to classroom slitting throats or stabbing hearts and would achieve higher numbers because the adjacent classes wouldn't hear a thing.

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When all Canadians being raked maybe America will put down their guns.

DAY OF RAKE SOON

>>128953919
SHALL

>>128956320
>English teacher LARPing as nip.
Kill yourself

>>128953919
>There are more than 33,000 hurt feelings in America every single year. This is completely unacceptable.
>There is a fundamental problem with how the first amendment allows anyone to speak freely.
>The only people who should speak freely are police officers and soldiers because their work requires it and they know what is best for you.
>Ordinary people don't need free speech, they use it to hurt each other's feelings in large numbers (proof:the United States). It's even worse because children are also victims of free speech.
>For the the sake of the future of your country please repeal the second amendment America.

Also for the record, extreme gun violence wouldn't even be an issue if not for Black Culture, just look at Switzerland and you'll see it to be true (they have many guns, hardly any blacks and their own culture isn't shit).

Also:
>"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb, and we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one school shootings since Columbine and no change in the regulation of guns."

Showcasing another's retardation to justify some other retardation is a sign of pure retardation.

I'm patiently waiting for the Day Of The Rake to come.

Having everyone take off their shoes including an old white man is retarded, they should limit it to only sand niggers

Having everyone give up their guns including an old white man is retarded, they should limit it to only niggers.

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>>128953919
>second amendment
>allows
Why do leafs choose to be such faggots?

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>no change in the regulation of guns

Nigger have you ever seen a NYSAFE compliant AR15?

it should be 33,001

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>>128953919
>No change in the regulation of guns

The 2nd Amendment has already been effectively repealed by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and dozens of laws passed since then. In the grand scheme, there's hardly anything left to ban.

>>128953919
But I can still wear shoes in America

>>128953919
Shut the fuck up, leaf. Doesn't impact you so why start a thread?

For the record, not everyone can legally have a gun due to LAWS despite the 2nd amendment, yet anyone can illegally have a gun- including fucking leafs. And holy shit "for the children", really??

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>>128953919
Cry moar, leaf fag.

>>128953919

shoebombs aren't deeply ingrained into our culture like guns

>>128953919
>one is protected by our constitution

/end
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>>128958144
Hello, /k/ommando

cut firearm deaths by over half by legalizing euthanasia and making it cheaper than buying a gun

17,000 of those 33,000 are caused by suicide

>>128957127
based leaf
I'll help you clean up your yard bro

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>>128953919
>

>right to wear shoe

Argument BTFO'd in an instant

>>128953919
Airport security was beefed up because of 9/11, not the shoe bomb, which came later.

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nothing else need be said

>>128953919
Fuck off Canada.

Why are fags from other countries always trying to make us act like cucks

>>128953919
>It's even worse because children are also victims of firearm violence.
Who cares about niglets dying?

>>128953919
a Leaf
thread discarded

>>128953919
well stop harassing people at the airport then. If we profiled sandniggers we wouldn't need to have nearly as much security.

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>>128953919

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LOL here come the NRA shills

>>128953919
i need gun

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>>128960384

>>128960384
Make one for Nig-splainer

>>128954543
It's literally not possible, and I love that. Libshits can try all they want to take something away that causes fractions of deaths compared to vehicles or heart disease, because they are scary. Guess what, people are afraid of things they don't understand. Yet the anti-gun people are more than happy to be swarmed with armed guards. Fucking hypocrites.

>>128960384
>gunsplainer
don't you just hate when you cut yourself, and then you go to the hospital and a doctor starts medsplaining to you?

>>128953919
How about you remove the suicides from that made up deathtoll. The majority of left is directly tied to gang violence which primarily uses stolen handguns.
How is taking away Bubba's AR-15 stopping Tyrone from shooting Jamal for his shoes? Stopping gang violence will all but remove gun deaths.
We also have to weigh the amount of lives saved by guns against the number taken. Which is extremely hard to prove because even drawing a gun is enough to force most criminals to flee.
Also even 51 years of mass shootings don't even come close to 20 years of terrorism in the US. Remove muslims.

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>>128960533
no

>>128953919
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3
Fuck off

>>128953919

I could talk again about the flaws in OPs opinion but I'm going to switch it up on this one.

Canada is a fucked up nation full of pussy liberals and backwards fascist laws. How can a fucked up nation like leaf land be so close to the most powerful, greatest empire in the history of man kind? Can we just invade this cuck nation already and skin them for lamp shades? I hear faggot lampshades smell like freshly douched pussy when you turn them on

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>>128960846
..

>>128959653
is this true?

>>128961258
Yes.

>>128961258
Read this >>128960900

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>hurr durr no one ever got hurt before gunpowder
ban guns then criminals still have guns and people hang themselves or stab each other instead of shooting

>>128961476
So what? Suicide deaths suddenly do not matter?

Suicide goes up when it is easier, and guns make it easy.

>>128953919
>Typical white male. Doesn't mention the thousands of black men killed every year and just focuses on white kids.
Oh hang on, if he mentioned that he'd have to think about who was pulling the trigger and whether it was a gun problem or something else.

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>>128953919
>Gun "deaths"
This means you're including suicides, which would occur irrespective of guns.

Every libcuck does this; I cannot take your argument seriously if you're going to start from such a dishonest position.

Pic is literally true in this case.

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>>128953919
>33,000 gun deaths

And approximately 2/3rds of the are suicide. Not murder.
There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls

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>>128953919

>>128961557
I thought liberals were all about allowing suicide. I guess not when it's the literal easiest and most pain free method.

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>>128961557
>Literally no evidence

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>>128953919
everyone get this fucking extension, pic related

https://sleazyfork.org/scripts/21130-cucknadia/code/Cucknadia.user.js

you need tampermonkey for chrome to use it, fuck canada

>>128961710
Yea, for those with terminal illness.
>>128961749
use google dumbass

>>128961557
>Suicide goes up when it is easier, and guns make it easy.

That must be why Japan, a gun free nation, has a far higher suicide rate than the USA.

>>128961817
Or whoever. You forget assisted suicide has always been a liberal staple and it matters not the condition of the "patient"

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>>128961817
There is none.
Access to free education certainly didn't help you.
Argument BTFO.

You don't deserve a higher level of discourse.

Doctors kill more people

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>>128961557
OP is a fag for implying the 33k deaths/year are all murders
suicide matters but people will find a way with or without guns

>>128953919
THAT'S RACIST!


YOU HATE US BLACK PEOPLE!

YOU FUGGIN NAZI! HOW DARE YOU HATE BLACK CULTURE!

GET OUT!

>>128953919
"Muslims kill thousands of people in the States, why haven't we banned Muslims?". See, I can do it too you ugly faggot.

>>128962314
nice reddit argument

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>>128960705

It's easy. You get caught with a unlicensed firearm they take it away and fine you, possibly jail if it's exceptional (ie a gun that would be illegal now) Eventually all the guns not licensed go away.

owning a gun for defense in a civilized society shouldn't be needed. Owing a gun for hunting, sport, or just as a hobby is fine, but carrying that shit around and keeping it under your pillow is just asking for accidents.

I mean we got a good thing going in Canada, the Brits are doing good, Japan is good. Countless other countries do alright

America isn't ever going to change though like being over weight, sharting in the Mart, it's part of their culture.

>>128961853
Actually, Japan has over 100k owners of guns, not including illegal guns owned by yukuza and others. There's also a grenade problem, as in people have them.

>protip: this actually further proves your point because no one uses the guns for suicide.

>>128962237
The only number in that 33k that matters is accidents involving minors. Shitty parents are the ones to blame for that for leaving loaded guns laying around. Still not the guns fault.

>>128953919
Fuck off Kike. Do you get paid for thisÉ sage this shit everybody.

>>128953919
Take suicides and illegally possessed firearms out of that number and get back to me.

If you really want to reduce crime then go after the root cause; negros. If all blacks were deported the total crime rate would drop about 75%, murders would go down by half, average IQ would increase about ten points, STD rates would decrease near 50%, welfare spending down by half and GDP would rise an estimate of around 1%.

>>128962400
>civilized
>society

Pick one.

>>128953919
21000 of those are suicide
A huge portion of what's left is just gangs and drugs, i.e. nogs killing other nogs
Let's also not forget that strong gun regulation tends to lead to an increase in violent crime.

>>128962400
>You get caught with a unlicensed firearm they take it away and fine you

That is racist against Muslims and black people.

You're a white racist Nazi.

>>128961557
wrong.
Look at south Korea idiot. No guns and they kill themselves using other methods

>>128962379
You can't just use Reddit whenever someone BTFO of your argument leaf. That's not how it works.

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>>128962400
>You get caught with a unlicensed firearm they take it away and fine you, possibly jail if it's exceptional (ie a gun that would be illegal now)

Police would refuse to enforce this law over fear of being shot, because we would shoot them. A third of Americans own a gun and believes we don't have to ask permission to. This would start a civil war that the government would lose. Then we'd have a million gun deaths a year, instead of 12,000 gang homicides and 18,000 gun suicides.

>>128962400
The Brits are doing goodÉ Now I know your a troll or a shill fuck off.

>>128963202
>Muslims
>sapient creatures with thoughts and feelings

>Assault weapons
>mindless death-machines

Excellent argument, my inbred alt-right friend.

Why we should keep the second amendment:
1. Self defense: When someone tries to harm you with a weapon (a gun since criminals break laws) how will you Canadaian Libtard commies defend your selves? Slap them with a dildo?
2. The government: So if only soilders and cops can have a gun that means the people can't start a reveloution against the government (IF they treat y'all like shit).
That the main reason why we have the 2nd amendment. Keep the government in check (Make it to where the government suck our dick. Not the other way around like in Canada)
3. School shootings: Schools are gun free libtard. Maybe if the teachers had guns they could save children's lives.
4. Shill: You're probably shilling cause anyone with a single brain cell knows that banning guns is a bad thing. But I'm taking the bait anyway

>>128953919
Fuck off leaf.....flying is not a right enumerated in our bill of rights....weaponry is protected.....flase equivalence argument AGAIN

We will never cede power that the government never had dispensation to give, nor the moral right to remove....

We like our nation just as it is.....should liberal idiots decide they cannot live around free men then why not move to Mexico city, Manchester, Chicago, or Oakland? Those gun free areas seem like real winners.......

>>128963651
>Muslims
>mindless death-machines

>Assault weapons
>mindless death-machines

Fixed for truth.

>>128953919
Do you think fire extinguishers should be banned as well?

>>128962400
>Brits are doing good


You might want to turn on the news the UK is having more than a slight problem.

>>128963651
THAT'S IT!!

EUREKA! YOU HAVE SOLVED IT!

ISLAM IS A WEAPONIZED IDEOLOGY!

ISLAM NEEDS A LICENSE!

>>128963761
1. Self defense: When someone tries to harm you with a weapon (a gun since criminals break laws) how will you Canadaian Libtard commies defend your selves? Slap them with a dildo?
just call the police, and maybe try not to treat your minorities like dogshit?
2. The government: So if only soldiers and cops can have a gun that means the people can't start a revolution against the government (IF they treat y'all like shit).
That the main reason why we have the 2nd amendment. Keep the government in check (Make it to where the government suck our dick. Not the other way around like in Canada)
The people shouldn't overthrow the government, you fucking limp-dicked ancap
3. School shootings: Schools are gun free libtard. Maybe if the teachers had guns they could save children's lives.
your so called ''''''''teachers''''''' (half of them don't even believe in evolution) would probably just shoot up the schools themselves, fat boy
4.
>You're probably shilling cause anyone with a single brain cell knows that banning guns is a great thing.
ftfy

Please watch understand and share this
:https//youtu.be/xI0bp7unPB8

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The second amendment is outdated and needs to be repealed

>>128964717
>banning guns

So you admit you hate black American and Muslim culture.

You're a white racist Nazi.

Seriously, you're bigoted.

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>>128953919
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

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are al bombs even illegal outside of airports? that'd be the logical comparison for this argument. he's just arguing you shouldn't be able to brings guns into airports with that comparison

>>128965068
Holy totalatarianism


Just ask for what you truly want a dictatorship

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>>128965621
I just want a society where the common people who obviously can't be trusted with having weapons of war in the fucking suburbs don't have them and don't slaughter innocent people with them.

>>128965941
>the common people can't be trusted with power!
I want a society without YOU.

>>128953919
Assumes facts not in evidence: (((Gun regulation))) is not proven to prevent school shootings.

>>128953919
It's illegal for kids to buy guns

>>128960705

drugs cause more deaths than guns by a lot and liberals want to legalize them all

>>128965941
It's also the country with the most niggers in the developed world, ever thought about that?

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As long as there are more good uses than bad that 33k number means shit.

>>128965941
You need a dictatorship freedom frightens you I recommend Islamic conversion asap then you will be less frightened of common people not being controlled

>>128953919
We have more guns than humans in the US and of the gov tried to take them, civil war 2.0 would start lol. It's impossible for gun regulation to be implemented. We're a country built on guns. It's called freedom faggot.

Fuck this topic is ancient.
Sage

>>128967221
You are never going to stop people from using drugs, the best thing to do is give them safe environments to do them in such as safe injection sites where clean syringes are provided and where people can have their drugs tested before injection

>>128967221
it's a fair argument as far as civil liberties go. you're a dipshit and a pussy if you think the founding fathers would've wanted the gov telling them they can't get high. people going to jail for a petty drug crime and having a record and not being able to get a job is a real problem for some people which lead them to a life of crime.

>inb4 they didn't have drugs like fent
people wouldn't take these drugs if they could get something like oxy or could take proper dose if they did want to. if this is your argument, clearly you haven't thought too much about it

>>128967833
drugs like fent being used could be blamed solely on the fact people use the black market and are trying to get other opiates instead

>>128967709

you're never going to stop people from killing people. even in paris bataclan boyz got ak-47s

>>128964717
I still think you're shilling, but I'll take the bait again.
Or you're really this retarded
1. Police: Just call the police. Yay problem solved! Wrong. It takes the police around 7 minutes (depends where you live) to arrive to your house and save you. You can easily be killed within 7 minutes if your unarmed. OR you can save your own life by shooting the killer with a gun within that 7 minutes. I'd rather live.
Minorities: America doesn't treat like minorities like shit. They treat themselves like shit.
2. Government: First of all I'm not ancap, I'm a conservative.
Second, so if the government makes really shitty laws (idk things like allow cops to beat the shit out of you for no reason or allow the government to take your stuff) you would put up with it? Or what if the government goes communist? You'd put up with it? Fuck that.
3. Teachers: "half of them don't believe in evolution". Sauce? But even if it's true what does it have to do with this? Oh yeah it's you avoiding the fact that I'm right and you're wrong by trying to win a different argument.
Anyway, "so your so called ""teachers"" will just shoot up the schools themselves". You know here in America teachers go through what are called "background checks" which make sure that teachers are mentally stable and have no criminal records so they WONT kill children.
4. Other countries: Look at Europe, they don't allow guns. Look at how many terrorist attacks happened there.
Some don't even use weapons. They used cars. LET BAN CARS.
Look at America: We allow guns and look at how many terrorist attacks happened here. We had FAR LESS attacks than Europe.

>>128968100
ones impeding on others rights, one isn't. what don't you get? you're comparing apples and oranges. i can get high right now and you will never know. i couldn't shoot you or your mom without you being effected

>>128968327

i can own my guns lawfully and never harm anyone. you can shoot smack and and never harm anyone. How do i know you won't go kill and rob people for your habit? how do you know i won't shoot you for being a useless drug user? pretty similar bro.

>>128965941
Funny how they always use the caveat "in the developed world". America is the single largest 1st world nation in terms of population, of course they're going to have the highest homicide rate REGARDLESS OF WEAPON. They also have the dubious honor of having the largest nigger pop. Control for gang violence and Americas gun related homicide are on par with many European countries.

>>128953919
Easy to say that when you're not living next door to Venezuela.

>>128958144
How is that Walther?

>>128953919
> 33,000 gun-related deaths per year
> US population is 321 million
> One percent of one percent of the population per year

Try harder, OP. Criminals would still be able to obtain guns regardless of the regulations the US puts in place, meaning the vast majority of gun-related deaths would still be happening.

Citizens are not the children of the government in the US. The people give the states power and the states give the country power. This nation was founded on freedom, and if you restrict the freedom to defend yourself effectively against attack on yourself, your family, or your property it won't be too long until all your other freedoms go up in smoke.

Government is to be criticized and controlled, not given free reign over the country it belongs to.

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>>128953919
YAWN

>>128967709
By leaf logic child rape will never be solved we should provide condoms and lube to make it safer with less STDs and torn tissue.

>>128968540

Dumbass, you control for these things. That's why statistics show "per 100,000 people" where the US is still way out ahead. And you think other countries don't have gangs? You know what else other countries don't have a lot of? Guns.

>>128953919
>leaf

>>128968445
alright you're definitely shilling now or really dumb.
we should ban probably food too cause people may rob someone for money for food.
>possible consequences from an individual activity is equivalent to choosing to break the law by using your gun illegally
mugging someone would still be illegal so you didn't even give an actual argument. apples and oranges my dude
think, I'm begging you

>>128969024
I suggest you travel more. Criminals have guns every single place except prisons.

>>128953919
3000 deaths in car crashes in the US every DAY

EVERY

DAY

>>128953919
sage

>>128953919
>Lots of gun deaths
>mostly nogs. Some Mexicans
>Problem solves itself

>>128953919

There have been many changes to the regulation of guns.

>>128969332
Cars have many uses

Guns are solely meant to kill things

>>128958144
mauser and a nugget? how are they not fighting right now? why aren't they strapped down? pretty negligent gun ownership right there

There is no substantial argument of repealing the 2nd amendment kys shareblue sliders

>>128953919
Actually there has been a change. We de-regulated them, and shootings decreased.

>>128969383

Retard logic

>>128969492
Not an argument

>>128953919
Cut the niggers out of your statistics and you'll be relieved to see we don't have a gun problem, but a nigger problem.

>>128965068

It's pure rage bait.

>>128955938
>>/k/

35,000 deaths annually from vehicular accidents in the USA.

Ban cars.

>>128953919
A Fucking Leaf

>>128953919
Stay in Canada you faggot. If you come here you might just happen to wash your mouth out with buck shot one day.

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>>128953919

This fucking thread again. By yet another fucking leaf.

sage

>>128958144
Ur opinion on a 5.8x39mm ak74?
Sounds sexu

>>128969801

So can we agree you need a license to get a gun? And training? And you have to regularly renew said license? And that there are strict rules for when/where you can use your gun as well as depending on other factors like how much you've had to drink?

>>128969383
Cars have one use. To get people from one place to another. Doing that is important in accomplishing several things.

Guns have one use. To deal damage to targets from long ranges. doing that is important in accomplishing different things.

The gun is the natural evolution of the bow and arrow just as the car is the natural evolution of the horse-drawn carriage. Believe it or not, murder is sometimes justified and the government does not have the right to a monopoly on being able to do it effectively.

>>128970105
No. The bill of rights doesn't guarantee the right to drive.

>>128953919
>33,000
>In a country of 300+ Million
Yeah, if you wanted to save lives you should be more worried about traffic deaths faggot

>>128953919
having guns in my society is an important freedom to protect against tyranny large and small
having muslims in my society is negative in every way

>>128970105
Oven the libtards.

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>>128970135
10 "justified" murders don't make up for 10,000 innocents being gunned down in the street every year retard

i will surrender 1 gun in exchange for john oliver. he must be shipping to anywhere but here

>>128969296

So why is America the only developed country with a gun problem?

>>128970394
It doesn't have to be justified. The 2nd amendment says fuck off.

>>128970540
Because it has a lot of niggers.

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>>128970394
>le Redditfag
Nearly all actual homicides with guns are gang related. Very few are neighbor shooting neighbor for "reasons" or crazed gunman shooting up populated areas. The rest are suicides.
10,000 niggers being killed by niggers, seems justified to me.

>>128970394
Something like 80% of firearm homicide "victims" have prior criminal records

The vast majority of the gun crime in the US involves gangs shooting each other. These people are your precious "victims".

>>128970394
Gonna need a source on that ratio. Even a brief google search has fuckin' WaPo saying it's 1 in 35 for self-defense killings versus homicide/suicide, not 1 for every 10000.

>>128970183

Ah, so we'll just accept a few thousand deaths a year because 200 years ago so dudes assumed guns wouldn't advance much farther than the musket.

The 2nd amendment needs to be repealed or at least the Supreme Court needs to get off it's ass and regulate firearms like we used to. Sick of it.

>muh freedom
>Sandy Hook is just the price we pay

This fucking country sometimes.

>>128970995
nobody is forcing you to stay here. get our or get shot faggot

>>128970995
>implying sandy hook happened
top kek

>>128970540
Hmm.... Charley hebdo, Brevik and Jo Cox ring a bell?

And for bonus points please explain Mexico where civilian gun ownership is illegal

>>128953919
>33,000
Bullshit figure, citation needed

Meanwhile a 900,000 perfectly viable children are murdered in america each year.
End abortion

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>>128965941
Your meme image is a complete lie. The norm for Libtards.

Luckily I'm here to correct your lies!

>>128970394
here's a redpill. Most people with a brain realize deep down that total homicides and suicides increase b/c of gun legalization. This is well worth the benefits of having a society that isn't completely cucked and vulnerable to whatever post-modernist zombies throw at it.

>>128953919
Liberals and CIA Commies did all the mass shootings. Then they racketeer that they will stop murdering people if we give up our guns, so they can effectively mass murder even more people.

> allows anyone to have a firearm

Second amendment doesn't "allow" anything. God and Nature allows us.

Felons can't own guns, if you attack someone life liberty or property, you lose your god given rights.

> Ordinary citizens have no need for guns.

It is the duty of every man in good standing to stop a crime in progress.

>>128971098

All singular cases that don't even scratch the surface of American gun violence on even a yearly basis. How many of those countries have had their leaders shot? How many times have we lost a president or had one critically injured by guns?

>>128953919
Since most are black people shooting other blacks, and most blacks are Democrats, I can see how the left would want to stop this. Given that Republicans are typically responsible gun owners, protecting themselves from democrats, I mean blacks, of course they won't let that right be taken.

>>128953919
FLOGALD WUMPF!

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>>128971194
>comparing first world countries to third world countries

Stretching a bit aren't we?

>>128953919
kill yourself shill rat

>>128970995
> Muh dead children

> Schools are gun free zones, making them obvious targets for shooters looking to make it on the 5pm news.

>>128971055

I would move to Canada if I had some God damn money and it was easier to immigrate up there. Health insurance and not having to worry about guns in addition to Republicans? Sign me those fuck up.

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>>128971223
Sure bub

>>128954110
fpbp

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To the leftist, one child dying from a gun = ban on guns but 22 dying from a fucking Muslim invader is meaningless

To the leftist, one child dying from a gun = ban on guns but niggers shooting themselves and others up is meaningless

>>128971480
>implying there weren't armed guards at columbine

Really though, your argument is more guns at schools? Our country's so shitty we need marines with M9's standing outside preschools? Great, nothing like looking like an Afghani refugee camp to induce learning.

>>128971364
Really Brevik has high score sport. And you really want to bring political assanations into it? Jo Cox was a MP killed by a person in a country where hand guns are illegal.

Keep trying I'm here all night.

>>128961090
that's racist

>>128970394

except there are more defensive uses than criminal uses retard.

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>>128971434
Gun control either works or it doesn't nigger, which is it?

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>>128970540

>>128971496
Oh yes just move to Canada. That place that just signed in a law that allows children to be taken from families that don't agree with gender reassignment.

>>128957555
One does not choose to be a faggot, one simply is.

>>128962400
>owning a gun for defense in a civilized society shouldn't be needed
it fucking is if you live where i live

most of the guns i hear going off outside at least twice a month are illegal anyway. what will taking away my gun do but put me in danger?

>You get caught with a unlicensed firearm they take it away and fine you, possibly jail if it's exceptional (ie a gun that would be illegal now) Eventually all the guns not licensed go away.
In what world does this work? Ok coke and weed are illegal. Every time the the cops stop someone with illegal drugs they take that shit away. How come there's still coke and weed on the street? Huh it's almost like PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK

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>>128971501
We know you hate us and we know you want to kill us, basically your post is the best justification that we need a lot of guns.

>>128971496
Why do libtards always have so many excuses for why they can't accomplish something. Ffs a family from South America can emigrate to Canada on foot but you can't?!

>>128953919

Countless failed attempts at bombings and we still let Muslims into this country.

>>128957751
Ramadan bombathon is quickly catching up to that number

>>128970831

i already posted the answer and it is more defensive uses than criminal uses by all estimates acc. CDC study -

>>128967519

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Who is coming to take them from me?

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>>128953919

>>128971657
Funny my highschool in the 1980's had ROTC a shooting team with on campus practice and an archery team guns were allowed in vehicles for after school hunting and the knife rule was sheath knives were not to be worn but folding knives were fine. My woodshop year end class project was making cross bows.

Seems to be a culture problem not a equipment problem

>>128971971
Is that a fucking rpg?

>>128965941
>Country with the loosest gun control laws in the developed world
That's not Switzerland

>>128953919
Tools cannot commit violence as they have no capacity for thought

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>>128971434

there is no relationship between # of guns and homicide rate - full stop

Guns are expensive, you think you want to drop $400 on a Glock at a local pawn just to kill someone?

Also, people die more from medical errors than firearms entirely.

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>>128953919
>checks flag
Mind your business, Canuk. I don't tell you how to fuck your dog. Don't tell me how to shoot my guns.

>>128972059
yes you fucking idiot. and a Klobb

>>128954264
wew lad good one, didnt notice
fucking kike mason faggots

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>>128972119
Look at the guns most commonly pulled off of criminals.

We're talking $100 rusted to shit Hi Points, Ruger P series and fucking Ravens and Jennings, along with the occasional stolen Sig or something.

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>>128972059
:^)

>>128965068
1. K end 2nd amend to add new one
2. So if someone wants a gun they will have to wait a long ass for the gun circulation to go down to 50%
3. That is sorta overkill just replace this with 4
4. This is where the "being nessesary to the security of a free state" comes in. Looneys with guns are not "necessary..."
But that part is somewhat vague (what's nessesary... exactly it's debatable)so something like this isn't a bad idea.
5. Taxes on guns? So those financially struggling (including poor people in shitty areas where a lot of violence takes place). Extra tax on southern states? Present day southerners did nothing wrong. Fuck #5
6. So even if you just go minimum have 2 guns (it's good to have back ups) you would need half a million dollars of insurance (on top of taxes). Having a gun is expensive. Those in poor and violent areas won't be able to defend themselves.
7. Now the government can stalk you anytime they please AND guns will be even more expensive to have. Again, poor areas where self defense is needed will suffer. This would probably start to get a bit expensive for average americans too.
8. Terrorist: "a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." The NRA and other organizations do not break laws nor use violence or intimidation.
9. This is one of the 2 provisions so far that make sense and can actually make us safer
10. 100 rounds lasts quite shorter than you think when you practice shooting at a shooting range or when you're hunting. 100 rounds can easily last less than 2 days. Also if a war takes place here you'd be fucked.
11. I don't believe in banning assault weapons for 2 reasons
1. If war takes place here they can be really handy
2. They allow the people to have power against the government.
However I do believe they should require more regulation than other gun types. Something like strict background checks.
12. I believe congress should have the final say 4 this

>>128971657
> Using the generic example of a school shooting to assume armed guards will never work.

If that's what makes parents most comfortable about their children's safety, then yes having armed guards at schools are an important step. It's not like the kids are going to come to school packing 9mms in their lunch pails.

It's either that or abolishing the school system.

>>128971665
>Really Brevik has high score sport.

Still doesn't scratch the surface of American gun violence on a yearly basis. Especially not when we get shooters with death tallies upwards of 50 every once in a while.

>Jo Cox was a MP killed by a person in a country where hand guns are illegal.

Yeah no shit, how many more you got? And how many die on a yearly basis from gun violence there? When was the last time an elementary school got shot up or some nut went around a college campus killing everyone he came across?

When was the last time they lost a prime minister to some dmbass buying a gun out of a magazine?

>>128971501
Strawman. guns are for fighting other civilians, not the government.

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>>128972246
Good eye on the klobb. The angle of that pic makes it hard to see or distinguish. Top down pic didn't work out at all.

>>128972258
True, they're small .38 wheel guns or shitty 9's.

>>128953919
1 million releases of fake news from propaganda media like CNN and they can still broadcast.

>>128970995
They had automatics and semi-automatics 200 years ago, dummkopf

>>128965068
>The second amendment is outdated and needs to be repealed
Yeah, good luck with that.

>>128956752
I hope so. We really deserve it.
The whole system up here is one big SJW factory.

>>128953919

>There are more than 33,000 gun deaths in America every single year.

It's burgers and niggers dying, barely any value to be lost.

>There is a fundamental problem with how the second amendment allows anyone to have a firearm.

I think it should be treated as right to drive car. I wouldn't allow to have to the person I wouldn't allow to drive a car. (Blind, schizophrenic, etc.)

Also, and crucial part for it, I would go full fascist on families and relatives of the school shooters (though it's little to change, since fuckers that do shooting, literally, don't give a fuck about everything).

I would also stop the fucking attentionwhoring that (((News))) enable to those fuckers.

>The only people who should have firearms are police officers and soldiers because their line of work requires them to have one.

The concept of owning firearms is not bad by itself.

> When ordinary citizens have guns, they use them to kill each other in large numbers (proof: the United States)

When NIGGERS, Dumbfucks and omegas have guns.

> It's even worse because children are also victims of firearm violence.

Children are also victims of car crashes, ban the car, leaf.

>For the sake of the future of your country please repeal the second amendment America.

The problem of America lies not in Second Amendment, but in people it applies to.
If burgers would shoot on sight every retarded nigger, sperg or dumbass redneck, there would be no problem with gun violence.

Oh, yes, I forgot crucial detail: hang half of the jewlywood and all of the censors that consider that gore and violence are ok, but you show as much as one female nipple in television and Moral Guardians go full "THINKOFDACHILDREN THEYARETRAUMATIZED".


Once again, there is myriad problems in America, but Second Amendment is not one of them.

>implying laws are any deterrent to someone planning a mass murder that will likely end in his own death.

>>128953919
I can't carry a gun on a plane.

>>128953919
if you ban guns then all the sand beaners with there illigal guns will run the streets. guns are already here,

>>128972604
Fuck off leaf, 1817 didn't even have brass cartridges.

>>128972356
Jo Cox was killed last year JFK was killed in 1963 and it is still classified as to what really happened. The nightclub was a Islamic fundamentalist San Bernardino was husband and wife Islamic fundamentalists. Fort Hood was an Islamic fundamentalist. Virgina tech was a self hating gay liberal Democrat.

It is a culture problem not an equipment problem disarmed law abiding people fixes nothing.

And please explain Mexico.

>>128953919
we don't have a gun problem, we have a nigger problem

>>128953919
>current year man
>leaf

Its time to rake the yard

Most of those 33,000 firearm deaths are suicides. Of the remaining, many are committed with illegally obtained firearms, between criminals, in states with stronger gun control.

>>128965068
Your citizenship is now null and void, traitor.

>>128972604
Puckel gun qualifies

:https//en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu
ckle_gun

>>128973036
Fucking Mexico, mom goes there for family but I loathe every second.

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>>128965941
Not only is that pic completely wrong, correlation=/=causation.

>>128958144
>Mauzer
>Nagant.

You can't shoot them both Macedonian style, 0/10

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>>128971501

>what do you mean he doesn't want to surrender his constitutional rights? is he some paranoid tinfoiler who thinks the government is out to get him?
>SICK THE GOVERNMENT'S WAR MACHINES ON HIM IMMEDIATELY AND BLOW THE FUCKER UP HAHAHAHA!!!
>this is what liberals seriously believe

>>128961258
Gun makes it exceptionally easy and failure prone to kill yourself.

>>128965068
>people actually taking the bait

>>128972879
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_rifle

>>128959927
>Implying Mass shooters, especially school shooters, give a fuck about possibility to be shot

>>128953919
>33000 gun deaths
Great, so the guns work. That's good to hear.

>>128972342
>It's either that or abolishing the school system.

You're willing to give up public education before even bothering to try to regulate firearms?

>>128971501
Vietnam, Afghanistan, any city who resisted occupation during WW2

>>128953919

Tell you what OP. We will agree to pass gun legislation down here, if you agree to make everyone who lives in California, Quebec, New York and Vermont collect the guns from their owners.

If they agree to come and take them, we agree to let them try.

>>128973483
Even if no mass shooter gives a fuck about being shot, an armed teacher can still save many lives by killing the shooter.

>>128973459
Got me there.

Columbine was a false flag. If you actually spent any time on here you'd know that you stupid leaf faggot.

Yeah because some kid definitely went around asking friends "hey who wants to shoot up the school with me" until he found the angry suicidal one and nobody else rated on him... Real shooters don't just fucking "team up" they go in alone. CIA agents will work in pairs like that though

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>>128972356

> When was the last time an elementary school got shot up or some nut went around a college campus killing everyone he came across?

Dunblane, 1996

> When was the last time they lost a prime minister to some dmbass buying a gun out of a magazine?

Percival, 1812

>>128954110
Didn't stop the CIA from commiting a false flag there

>>128973036

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. And you jump to Kennedy, are we forgetting Reagan or Ford? And what about the thousands of other deaths a year from guns?

>>128961476

> criminals still have guns

Because it's a goddamn fairy godfather that gives every nigger a gun instead of a fucking burgers that get robbed for said gun.

>>128973684

Damn, wish I could say as an American that that's the last time we ever dealt with those problems.

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>>128973723

Now lets control for suicides and niggers killing each other over stupid bullshit, then take another look at the crime rate associated with guns.

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>>128953919
You and some other swedish faggot keeps pushing this shit.Shut the fuck up already you cocksuckers.

>>128953919
>1 post by this id

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>>128973811
Move to Mexico. Mexico has completely solved the gun-violence problem, by banning guns.

Why do you torture yourself living in a gun-filled hell like the USA, when your anti-gun Utopia is right across the border amigo?

>>128973575
Public education is cancer and your understanding on rights proves it.

You are rather ignorant on the founding of the modern "public" education system. Best do some research on how and why it was created and why it is a clone of the Prussian education system.

>>128961629

>which would occur irrespective of guns.

American strikes again.
Gun is an ideal suicide tool. It doesn't give you time for survival instinct to kick in, it has pretty high fatality rate, and doesn't need much preparation.

You can literally make the choice to off yourself and do it five seconds later.

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>>128973811

That's not to say there haven't been any assassination attempts on PMs in the last 200 years, they've just been bombs that missed their targets for the most part. There have been on the order of 3 or 4 times more attempts to kill the PM vs the Prez in the past half-century.

The latest gun mass murder in the UK was in 2010. UK cops are quite well-armed.

>>128963186
>No guns and they kill themselves using other methods

Murritard forgot about the retarded (((working ethics))) of South Koreans. If murritards would have the same drone mentality, we'd see either the wave of suicides, or murders of the bosses.

>>128953919
>33,000 firearms deaths
How many are suicides?
Homicides?
Justifiable?
What race has the most firearm deaths?
Do they occur in gun free zones?
No liberal will ever answer those without questions destroying their own argument

>>128957127
>>128972736
Guns are easy to buy illegaly. Maybe I should go commit an actual mass shooting not this pussy 13 people working in a 2 man team shit like the depressed gay couple from columbine. I'll go somewhere where everyone isn't unarmed and I'll bag 50 or more ALL MYSELF

Eric and Dylan are overrated fags. they picked the easiest target you could possibly pick (a school) they were a two "man" team and still failed to rack up a high enough count and their stupid bombs were a joke. They did that shit for attention but then felt remorse like weak fags when they realized they actually couldn't undo. They should have just cancelled the massacre waited a few years until they could legally marry eachother and then died of AIDS instead of pulling a half ass attack making gun laws tighter and in the way of actual serious killers. 13 people is respectable ish for a lone man with limited weapon availability at a harder target but a team with decent weapons at a defenceless school? There's no excuse for not getting 60+ kills

>>128968279
>You know here in America teachers go through what are called "background checks" which make sure that teachers are mentally stable and have no criminal records so they WONT kill children.

And what's the problem to apply the same shit to people buying guns?

>>128973902
>guns cause violence, let's just take out the ones I personally don't think count

Not like I think you could provide those statistics even if asked. Regardless, suicides are a problem and yeah getting rid of the guns would help. That's why getting rid of guns is a good thing. Doubt if you go back a couple hundred years that those black people wanted to he here. Didn't have much of a a choice did they though?

>>128974025

so why do South Korea and Japan top the list on suicides despite nogunz and america is in the middle around all the euro no guns

>muh cultural differences

>>128971194
>Switzerland

Switzerland also has a mandatory military service, though, so there is a little bit more than jewlywood "guns r cool and hip" behing an average gun carrier in Switzerland.

>>128972823
Or an agency pulling a false flag for shits and giggles

>>128971480

> Schools are gun free zones, making them obvious targets for shooters looking to make it on the 5pm news

Schools have children. That's all that matters.
Since shooters, usually, turn the guns on themselves anyways, the fear of getting shot and killed is non-existent and won't prevent shit.

>>128974821
God you are an amazing leftist you are the poster child for non-sequitur

>>128953919
go back to your uk shit hole john oliver.

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>>128975124

you're talking a lot of shit latvia for living in a relative homicide hellhole

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>>128953919
>London has had multiple stabbing victims every month for quite a while
>Ban all knives
>People are never responsible for their own actions
>Pansy liberals should kill themselves

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>>128974372
>uk cops are quite well armed
Meanwhile in reality...

>>128953919
see the thing is most people think the frisking and regulations are invasions of privacy and dont do anything anyway.

I want you to watch this and tell me this is ok. he even goes back for more after he had already decided that was enough penis fondling.

>>128973902
great point. we no have gun problem we have nigger problem.

>>128975348
forgot link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1437103/Mother-films-invasive-TSA-pat-disabled-teenage-son.html

>>128974676
Columbine was a false flag man

Eric and Dylan literally never actually existed

>>128953919
yes yes we know the deep state / NWO hates our guns, still not giving them up, sorry

didn't you know trump won and there won't be any gun laws passed for a LONG time shill?

sage

>>128953919

>over 300,000,000
>only 33,000 gun related deaths annually

Not bad, to be honest.

>>128953919
Shill thread

>>128973605
>an armed teacher can still save many lives by killing the shooter

Not giving said shooter weapons in the first place can save even more lives. You know why there was only ONE school shooter in Russia? Because it's a fucking bitch to get a gun there, even in black market, which effectivelly cuts off spergs from obtaining guns.

Meanwhile in America, even a fucking degenerate with voices in his head can have guns because of "muh constitution".

Having guns should be a privilege, not a right. And
a) Restricting tards from obtaining the guns legally
b) Assfucking citizens without a lube for failing to manage their own gun safety. Ex: You are a mother whose sperg son took the gun to shoot up a school? Equally guilty.

Would be first steps towards fixing shit, if we're talking about school shootings. Other than, of course assfucking news anchors on enabling the attention whores.

>>128975645
they include suicides in this and police killings.

>>128953919
A fucking leaf /thread

>>128954110
That's /thread

>>128956929
BE

>>128953919
Tell trannies to stop suck-starting shotguns and that number drops to 9k deaths ... from mostly LEO and Gangbangers. try again leaf.

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>>128975330

Yeah, they were Transit cops and PCSOs. Beat cops have been screaming for gunz for ages.

>>128953919
20k of those "gun deaths" are suicides.

Of the roughly 10k homicides, 80% are gang related, No Humans Involved. We don't have a gun problem, we have a leaf problem.

>>128974908
> South Korea and Japan: Work as a drone at soul crushing job for decades, slowly degrading yourself to a nervous shell-like creature.

>Lithuania and other ex-USSR countries: Live in the post-USSR depressive shithole for pretty much whole your life and face the prospect of living in shit conditions with minimal prospect for change for the rest of your life.

>United States: have an especially shitty mood and hurt feefees and be too lazy to lift your fat ass and go to therapist.

THEIR SUICIDES ARE TOTALLY SAME, YOU GOY, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

>>128975778
Not to rain on your parade, but remind me the legal age for ownership in burger land.
Now as far as proving negligence on safety ... good luck. Before you imply Cops go door to door inspecting shit, A: violations, B: Manpower costs.

16,000~ of that 33,000 are suicide by gun according CDC. So I really don't get why you would want heavily depressed people around to be more depressed.

>>128953919
Nice try muhammad we see you're flag

>>128973575
Yes. Because no amount of regulation is going to stop every school shooting out there. It's not even going to stop most of them.

And what about regulations we already have in place on ownership? States have the power to put laws in place that require a buyer to show proof of a gun license. There are only three states in the US that don't require proof of training to purchase a firearm.

Besides, the American school system is shit in the first place. Not like it would be much of a loss.

>>128975778
Yeah ban guns because CIA agents go shoot people in schools using made up identities

Black market guns are easy as fuck here. If someone actually wanted to shoot up their school here they could easily

>>128976826
Ignoring the fact that columbine was a false flag didn't Eric say he black marketed all the guns he and Dylan used in the shooting and specifically made sure to get them illegally as a fuck you to gun laws?

>>128953919
Shut up, Leaf.

>>128975778
You know why Russia is STILL communist.
"Because it's a fucking bitch to get a gun there, even in black markets"
No one is able to start a reveloution cause they will get shot. The primary purpose of the second amendment is to protect ourselves from the government so we don't go communist.
Self defense is the secondary purpose.
Btw there's the part that says "being necessary to the security of a free state"
Which allows reasonable regulation (preventing schizos from owning guns).
That part I somewhat vague cause, what's considered "necessary..."

>>128975287

>Per capita killings.

Funny that you start bitching when Chinese call you the Air polluting shithole by using the same argument, kek.

>>128976461

>muh cultural factors
>US doesn't count! it's the guns! also, ignore the fact US is comparable to all EU nations

>>128975124
> Implying that no amount of security put in place will ever stop or reduce the severity of even a single shooting.

So if a shooter walks on campus, pulls out a gun, and immediately gets shot before he kills anyone, is that still a reason to ban guns in the US?

If someone brings a knife on campus and kills seven kids before he's restrained/shot/killed, is that a reason to ban guns in the US?

If someone walk on campus and beats someone to death with his bare hands, is that a reason to start cutting off the hands of every US citizen?

Where do you draw the line? What weapons are okay? Which ones aren't? When will you be happy? Because I can sure as hell confirm that you're never going to stop murder for good with a paltry law.

>>128953919
apply that logic to black people, Nigel

>>128976826
>There are only three states in the US that don't require proof of training to purchase a firearm.

complete bullshit, there are way more than 3 states that you can just walk out immediately with a gun after a brief (few minutes) electronic background check.

There are more than 35,000 traffic-related deaths in America every single year. This is completely unacceptable etc
third time i've seen you post the same shit (at least you're using a different pic related) in the last hour
kys immediately, OP

>>128977304

it's funny though because you guys have very little guns and are basically 100% white and yet you murder like a commie shitskin island shithole. maybe fix your backyard before telling us how to live. if we had a white population like your's we'd be in line with other low homicide nations

OP is a retard, you do realize that if you restrict guns, the people who use the guns for bad things are going to be the only one with guns? Gun control has been proven time and time again to have absolutely no impact on crime rate, it only puts the average law abiding citizen at risk who, if he had a gun, would have been able to save his own ass. A better solution - Compulsory gun ownership, make it illegal to *not* own a gun. I'll bet you my ass nobody's going to take the first shot.

>>128977294
Bolsheviks black marketed most all the guns for their revolution or had mutinying army members take them from the army supply. Stalins first job for the party was actually running s gang that would rob banks and use that money to buy guns that they'd bootleg back to safe hiding places until they were needed

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>>128953919
Yeah sure. Lets get rid of guns. But lets keep the illegals here. Because its too much of a hassle rounding them all up.

>>128953919
A.) Leaf.
B.) Fucking leaf.
C.) I can't hear you over the freedom of my own country.
D.) If you really want my guns you - an unarmed leaf - are going to have to come and get them from me.

I know this is bait, but whatever.
saged.

>>128977294
>No one is able to start a reveloution cause they will get shot

>American history education.

And these retards have right to carry.

>>128973483
>Implying mass shooters wouldn't go to places knowing they wouldn't be fired upon until police showed up

>>128977426
I'll concede that point. I plead shitty source.