*crickets chirping*

>my baby is your responsibility

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>>128950232
Who wants to keep sex confined to the bonds of marriage?

>Me

raising other people's children as your own is the ultimate cuck. I say we kill all children given up for adoption and forcibly sterilize everyone who does not meet basic aptitude levels in tests.

>>128950232
> who is against murder?
> who wants to pay for food and shelter of the victims?

really jogged my noggin

>>128950232
>who is for abortion?
>who wants to be fucking killed without there consent

leftists are demon filth, they alone are reponsible for the spread of suffering and starvation

So your solution is to kill the innocent baby?

>>128950232
I'd like to adopt a qt young girl, but they told me very clearly that as a single guy that's not gonna happen. Hope they change that in the future.

>>128950232
>>128950346
Letting them live tho creates an unstable population typically without fathers or stable homes.
Prone to violence, and out taxes pay for them one way or another.
even if you take away all benefits at the very least you are paying for more police or a wall to keep them from jacking your car.

Would rather take the death of unborn children, which they are. they are children who are better off dead for the benefit of society since we don't have the fucking self control not to have had them to begin with.
If we could solve the issues with sexual promiscuity first (which is impossible with niggers) we wouldn't have to own up to the consequences of "sexual liberation".

>>128950399
Me

Pence actually said during the VP debate that "pro-lifers should also be pro-adoption".

Probably the only line about anti-abortion that liberals can't argue against.

>>128950961
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I just think all the typical pro-abortion arguments pretty much come down to denying that you're killing a child and deflecting personal responsibility.

>>128950232
There are long lines of people in the US who want to adopt. People wait for years to adopt.

Problem is they want a child that is similar to them in race, aka a white kid. This is why we hear of those disastrous cases of Americans adopting psychologically disturbed street children from Russia.

>>128950232
What is contraception

>>128950232
Misleading.

There is a huge adoption demand for healthy newborns. Couples have been searching outside the U.S. for years due to lack of supply.

Or we could put all the babies on an island with thousands of cameras. See who makes it and who doesn't.

Gambling would be a trillion $$$ business.

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>>128950232
>nobody wants to take care of these human beings so let's just murder them

>>128950399
Me

>>128950232
*who wants to take care of thier own shitskin children instead of instantly referencing adoption?

>fixed

>>128950232
There are people who want to adopt so badly they go to AFRICA to do it.

Perhaps instead of forcing adoption on responsible people we could force sterilization on those degenerates? I don't understand why they get to make bad decisions and get out clean. The number of abortions should go on the license of both the girl and the guy so every time they show it to someone they get shamed

Our native population growth rate is really low, there are orphanages that they can be sent to instead, if that is your problem with it.

>>128950232
Or you can take responsibility for your fucking actions and raise it yourself.

>I'm such a free spirit independent women I'm going to fuck all the Chads and Tyrones and let the betas and society deal with it

>>128950232
its funny because you'll force a man to pay alimony for 18 years but you wont force shitty parents to raise their children.

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>>128950232
>being against abortion

Good goy

>>128951527
That's mostly virtue signaling though.
Adopting a kid from a poorer country gives you more liberal brownie points.

I think that a healthy baby straight out of the womb would have 100s of couples competing for it, regardless of the kid's skin colour.

The problem is that most children who are up for adoption are in fact not babys just being born but kids that are at least a couple of years old thus already plagued by behavioural problems and all kinds of other bullshit that no one wants to put up with.

>>128950232
>who's against murder
*hands raise*
>who wants to be a policeman
*crickets chirping*


Anti-murderers BTFO

>>128950931
Thats very singlephobic of them. you should seek legal advice.

>>128953049
That's why we should incentivize abortion-seekers to instead donate their newborn baby to an adoptive couple.

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>>128950232
While it has inherent advantages, abortion isn't the solution. Are humans so inept in logical capability that they cannot see the true underlying problem? Or do they choose to remain blind, resorting to murder to retain the status quo?

The abortion problem is caused by giving women social power, when they clearly lack the responsibility that goes with it.

Perhaps it is brought about by hedonism and nihilism, caused by the social decay of modern society. Personally I don't think women have much agency, the most being to receive the most immediate pleasure and to be a social parasite.

The ultimate problem is western men, who are too weak and incapable of maintaining this society, and it will die because of it.

The solution is so simple, for white men to be white men. To set fire to this filth, cleansing it of corruption and vanity. Yet it's so impossible.

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>>128951315
Redpilled pro abortion arguments point out the disproportionate rate that brown people receive abortions. Without abortion, black births would triple white births.

>>128950232
>who is for abortion?
>who doesn't know what birth control is?

>>128950488
Raising a legitimately orphaned white child as your own alongside your own family is one of the greatest symbols of the superiority of the white race and western culture. It's the fucking shitskins who rut like animals and are incapable of caring for their young that have destroyed what was once a sign of maturity, honor, and charity among western societies.

Just like faggots and degenerates have ruined the concept of mentorship, adoption of legitimately orphaned children is a concept relegated almost exclusively to white societies for a reason.

>>128954395
> Personally I don't think women have much agency, the most being to receive the most immediate pleasure and to be a social parasite.
That's enough agency to blame them for this shit. And it isn't even a matter of agency. You might say you blame the party involved with the most agency, because that will be the most effective in changing circumstances, but laying blame isn't how you change things, and isn't what blame is intended for. Blame is to acknowledge responsibility. And in this case, women are responsible.

>The ultimate problem is western men, who are too weak and incapable of maintaining this society, and it will die because of it.
>The ultimate problem is homeowners, who are too weak and incapable of maintaining their house, and it will be robbed because of it.

>The solution is so simple, for white men to be white men. To set fire to this filth, cleansing it of corruption and vanity. Yet it's so impossible.
Ah yes, because they stopped being white men recently, while somehow being white men? This is completely illogical. What you're looking for is "for them to better themselves." And quite simply no matter how better they get, nothing will change until the system collapses. Democracies operate by majority vote, and women are the majority of voters. Democracy must fall for civilization to be cleansed. It is not a matter of fighting, but a matter of waiting. Waiting for the bell to toll and the crop of the degenerate women and the society they created to be reaped with grave consequences.

>>128950488
The fault here is the parents, not the child.
Kill parents who can't raise children, especially single moms and most issues of society is resolved.

>>128950232
>hur der we have surplus population so let's kill them and call it humane

Reminder that all liberals get the rotors

>>128953009
What's the problem with this accomplishment again?

>>128950346
thats right. they arent, so let them have an abortion cuckservative.

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>>128950399
Me

>>128952134
this

>>128950232
Is chemical castration literally not an option anymore?
If you're on welfare, chemical castration.
If you believe in transgenders being people, chemical castration.
If you're black, chemical castration.
If you have more than two children, chemical castration.
If you're retarded, chemical castration.

It isn't hard.

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>>128950232
state should adopt all unwanted children
teach them
train them
give them 2 options. military or civil service.

>>128954986

There's also the argument that the kind of woman who would get an abortion is exactly the kind of worthless slut we don't want passing on her worthless slut genes. Abortion is incredibly eugenic, and best of all, the retards filtering themselves out of the genepool feel themselves "liberated" to be doing to themselves what the nazis could only dream of doing by force.

>>128951315

What's wrong with killing an unborn baby? We kill people literally every fucking day, you know what there's no shortage of? People.

>>128961181
Who is the semen demon?

>>128961364

Some YouTube trap.

>>128950232
I like abortion because it's eugenic.
If you're too stupid to either have protected sex or plan ahead to have children, you're too stupid to reproduce.

>>128961364
Claire Abbott

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>>128960600
>having more than two children being a bad thing

>>128950399
Me

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>>128950399
>"Who has already had sex?"

>>128951527
the street kids are a hell of a lot less disturbed than the ones in the orphanages.

>>128962127

Gratz, you fail as a real man and have absolutely no right to expect your future wife to be pure. Enjoy raising another man's child.

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>>128962127

>>128950232
Hey OP. Go fuck yourself.

http://archive.is/ZO0eC

>>128950232

Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwiː/;[1] Latin for, "you also") or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).

Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore X is false.[2]

An example would be

Peter: "Based on the arguments I have presented, it is evident that it is morally wrong to use animals for food or clothing."
Bill: "But you are wearing a leather jacket and you have a roast beef sandwich in your hand! How can you say that using animals for food and clothing is wrong?"[2]

It is a fallacy because the moral character or past actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]

I can't have kids and have been trying to adopt for years. It's damn near impossible

Literally fuck off OP and delete this image from your fucking computer

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I would adopt if single men were allowed to

>Apryl is a very lively child with an infectious laugh and smile. She enjoys being chased and tickled. Her favorite thing to do is to play outside. She loves to swing and jump. Apryl enjoys swimming and playing on her iPad as well. Apryl is diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. She is very receptive to touch and enjoys hugs. Apryl is active, generally happy, curious, adventurous, and opinionated. She is physically healthy. Apryl has made great strides in her speech in the past year. She uses a word book to help her with communication with adults. Apryl requires fairly constant supervision and redirection.

>>128961184
I think it also works the other way though. Among the white community, the kinds of women who are apt to have the foresight and access to resources (i.e. able to pay for abortions that are not free via planned parenthood gibs) to get an abortion are also the kind we want having kids.

Among the white community who tend to be more k selecting, smarter women who feel like they can't afford to provide a good life for the child tend to be more likely to get an abortion than lower IQ women who would rather stick them with the kids grandparents.

>>128962578

OP isn't a fallacy of any kind, let alone tu quoque. It's perfectly possible to be against abortion AND not want to adopt, nothing contradictory there, and it's not even hypocritical. Dumbshit Amerifat.

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>>128954986
>why yes goy abortion is nigger control
>No no ignore the fact abortion only exists in white countries
>here look at these stats from america to feel better about murder goyim

>>128962999

Women with foresight are on the pill until they WANT to have a child. It's the dumb sluts who don't take the pill, sleep around, and then find that OOPS they're pregnant.

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death penalty for people who get an abortion

only 1 child that needs to be adopted and the criminals are taken care of for good

>>128962824
Uh they are allowed to. I know gay men who have adopted girls.

>>128950399
Me.

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>>128950232

I can accept abortion as a practice even if I don't agree with it morally, so long as all men also have the right to a "legal/financial abortion", allowing the father to abdicate any and all responsibilities towards the resulting child within the same time frame that the mother would be legally able to get a physical abortion.

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This cartoon completely ignores the fact infants go like hotcakes and we have to rip those fuckers away from the mothers who pledged to give them up and not let them even hold the child because there is a big issue of mothers changing their minds.

>>128963406

Gay men in a civil union / gay marriage can adopt, as can single women, but single men can't.

>>128950232
Strawman. Lots of conservative couples adopt. Leftists stereotypically go (((childless)))

>>128962824
How do children raised by single fathers typically turn out?

>>128963940

Pretty well, much better than single mothers or gay couples, not as well as two hetero parents.

>>128963940
Better than being raised in a state house for orphans. I guarantee you that.

>>128950232
First off don't get pregnant is the answer not someone else has to take care of it. Second white babies get adopted. Its only fucked up kids and non whites who don't.

>>128963940
Better than single mothers, worse than monogamous heterosexual couples.

>>128950346
>Want to outlaw abortion
>Don't want to adopt
>Waah why are there so many people on welfare?
You aren't aborting future doctors and presidents, you are generally aborting future felons.

>>128959935
>my neighbors kids arent my responsibility

So lets just kill them.

>>128950657
Me

>>128950232
And they also don't want to let the gays adopt anyone.

>>128963729
Any source for this claim?

>>128964247
More like lets let my neighbors kill their own kids. My hands are clean, I'm just not complaining about infanticide.

>>128950232
Who wants to look after my grandmother? No one? Okay, I'm having her put to sleep.

>>128964323

Ha good luck with that. No putting the genie back in the bottle, can you imagine the uproar from the SJW crowd if they tried to ban disgusting child-molesting queers from adopting kids?

>>128964487
I'm fine with that.

>>128959935
>I shouldn't have to take responsibility for my decisions you should instead

>>128950346
>My body is your responsibility

>>128964332
Have you been asleep to the fact everyone is forced to go to china for babies due to the combinations of our regulations and limited amount of babies compared to infants being demanded?

>"who thinks that sex is procreation purposes only"

>>128950232
Amazon announced that they are offering major discounts on Amazon Prime for those on Food Stamp recipients. The elites are stepping up their game and recruiting an army of those who envy. Step up your game!

>>128961286
True, there are a lot of people from our perspective.

You also have to realize that as far as we know, we're the only self aware creatures in the entire universe. We're the only creatures that can actively change the course of the planet, and eventually the solar system, galaxy, universe. Despite there being 7 billion of us, in the grand scheme, we're pretty fucking rare and special.

>>128950232
Doesnt adoption cost a fuckton of money and take a ridiculous amount of time to go through?

>>128950232
Only virgins are against abortion

>>128950232
>who wants people to start having sex responsibly as a means to start a family together rather than pleasure

everyone raises hands.

>>128965001
Even the people who are able to jump through all the hoops aren't always able to get american babies. They have to go out of country.

>>128965108
theres plenty of married people against abortion

>>128963940
Molested

>>128964976
>self aware

I don't know why people think they're self aware. Explain to me how you make decisions, how your mind works, how you form sentences, how you parse sentences of others, etc etc etc. We have little to no insight into the inner workings of our minds, by what possible measure are we "self-aware"?

>>128965001
Pay $5000 MAX for an abortion
Or pay $10000 for raising a child for only the first two years of its life, before school fees and toys gotta be bought.

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>>128965108
>every white nation that adopts birth control culture gets BROWNED with immigration due to birth rates dropping in desperation to keep the ssci(or your respective version of oldman gibs and other welfares) boat afloat
>"only virgins are against birth control hahahha"

>>128965194
>who thinks that infertile couples or old couples should be banned from having sex?

>>128962127
>i held hands with a girl once

>>128950232
>killing babies is a right

I recently lost a libtard friend like this. I told him he can kill his babies if he wants to but I won't, kid got butthurt.

>>128965258
I am aware of myself. I recognize my body in a mirror.

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>>128965307
>people PAY MONEY to get abortions

you cant make this up!

i didnt realize how evil this is that they want it so bad theyre willing to pay money for it

>>128965251
>HURR

Most victims of abuse are abused by women.

>>128950232
>not wanting to adopt your very own fuck toy who isnt your blood so its cool to fuck

>>128965531

So does a magpie. So what? Are you aware of how your brain works? No? Then what does it mean to say you're self aware?

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>>128953009
>>128954986

>>128965532
>MUH BIKINI BODY :'(

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but seriously, abortions are fine - just the right demografic should start using them

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>>128950232
Is the majority of /pol/ even against abortion?

Right now it's the closest thing to eugenics we can get. Not only that but it doesn't even have to be enforced. Niggers and shitty parents line up to have their children ripped out of them and discontinue their shitty genes.

The only people I've ever seen against abortion are retarded christcuck zealots that are too busy jerking off about how everyone but them is going to hell to bother reading their holy book.

>>128965818
Murdering people isn't the only form of eugenics, you mentally deficient child.

>>128965762

I don't care what race it is, people who would willingly abort their own child are worthless trash no matter what race they are, and I am happy to let them remove themselves from the genepool.

>>128950488
I mean that is literally what cucking means

it's where it comes from

the fucking cuckoo bird lays its eggs in another bird's nest and that bird raises the cuckoo's children as its own

>>128965950
Is that what I said you illiterate retard?
>Right now it's the closest thing to eugenics we can get.

>>128965251
he said single fathers, not gay couples

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>>128965818
>exist only in white countries
>eugenics

most abortions in the world and history is white blood wake the fuck up you moron there are more people aborted than born especially whites

>>128965818
It's eugenics but at the same time the dumb whores who made bad decisions that led up to an abortion still live and eventually have stupid children anyways. I'd rather people be stuck with the pregnancy and be an example to others to not be fuck ups. As long as we stop subsidizing it (single mother hood) as well.

>>128966048
That's not even remotely true, though.

>>128950346
Cheaper to abort than it is to have the state fund them, you retard.

>>128950931
Will you fuck it?

>>128965258
>>128965665
This.

>>128966056

Have you ever heard of a place called "China"? Guess what, you dumb cunt? Abortion is legal in China! I guess they must be white, according to dullards like you!

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>>128950232

>>128966056
That's completely wrong though.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/

Just one of many articles showing that only niggers and EXTREMELY shitty while people get abortions.
>>128966061
I can agree to that but, you're right, that would only work if we totally ended all subsidies to mothers. I don't see that ever happening.
The ideal outcome would be true eugenics and sterilization.

>>128966158
Maybe the state shouldn't fund them, you retard.

>>128950232
I don't care about abortion as long as my taxes don't pay for it

>>128966132
Legally and ethically speaking, yes it is.

We have the technology to gene splice super babies tomorrow but no ethics community is even close to allowing that shit. (except maybe in china)

>>128966459
>gene splicing is bad but murdering babies is ok

Fuck off.

>>128965762
Im the third pic, always have been.

99% of people who willingly have abortions are democrat. THE IRONY

>1 post by this ID
really tickles my pickle

>>128966546
Take it up with international ethics committees, not me.

If it were up to me abortions wouldn't ever happen because only very few people would be having children and those children would be VERY well taken care of.

>>128966410
Which they shouldn't. Planned Parenthood turns a profit every year. Just a gov. scam to get tax payer money to a liberal program full of crony kick backs.

>>128966365
>The ideal outcome would be true eugenics and sterilization.

No, the current system is superior because it's self-selecting. A bureaucrat can make a mistake or be corrupt, and sterile a good woman or fail to sterilize a bad one, but when it's the whore herself who seeks the abortion, that makes it certain that only worthless cunts get sifted.

As to "well even if she gets x babbies spiked, she'll still eventually spew out x more that she keeps", a woman who has even one abortion is unlikely to ever have more than one living child.

>>128966370
>children going hungry is a-ok as long as clumps of cells aren't removed from a woman's vagina
Fucking kike lmao

>forcing someone to raise a child they can't support, ultimately eating away at welfare And making more unemployed people
Today as well force people to have organ donation, it's practically the same.

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>>128966294
Oh I'm sorry, the place with billions of Chinese insects and is desperate to control themselves because communism and opium spiraled them out of moral decency for eternity??

Did we have the same problem as them, you asshole? No we were perfectly fucking fine and in fact could used to grow a little but instead of doing it with OUR children these RETARDS put us on the pill and import SPICS.

You are fucking blind and you know it. Abortion is one of the heads of the hydra we are fighting, just because it bites the others sometimes doesn't mean we spare it you dim witted FUCK.

WHY does germany need nigger control? Sweden? or any of the Europeans In the 60s-*80s? No you will stare at the states from a country that is now 56% white BECAUSE of shit like abortion and smile and say "LOOK BROTHERS! our ally the hydra!"

>>128966365
>posts american statistics in a time its barely majority white when i mention the world and history
insect minded SHEEP.

>>128966686
Maybe start advocating genetic engineering instead of murdering babies, then.

>>128965211
kek

>>128966819

Your own picture proves what a moron you are. Abortions are dropping... but so is the population growth. HOW COULD THIS BE?!??!?!?

>>128966783
>taking responsibility for my actions is bad, I should be allowed to murder all my problems away

Just go.

People always want to adopt babies. No one wants the degenerate older kids.

>>128966204

of course he wants to fuck it
like he's flipping through a loli menu

>>128966821
That's literally what I'm doing.
Are you one of those christcucks I was talking about, by chance?

>I consider a clump of cells that doesn't even have a nervous system yet a person, and that's murder
>but I don't think helping support them and their life once they're born to be something worth my money

Reminder that the right wing loves huge government as long as that government is enforcing their rules instead of dem rules.

>>128966981
>something that isn't alive is being murdered
Keep lapping up the koolaid, you good for nothing, filthy fucking kike lmao

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Wow, you're against robbery? I guess that means you're going to just give them your money so they don't have to rob you for it, right?

>>128950488
Unless you're impotent or something.

>>128965258
>>128965665

I have no idea what I'm doing or why almost all of the time.
The rest of the time I'm not doing anything.

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>>128966980
Thats population growth of WHITE people you idiot.

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>>128950232
So we should muder children? Is that what the comic is saying?

>>128967086
Go read your original post and tell me how in the fuck you are advocating genetic engineering. Because to me it sure sounds like you support killing babies.

>>128967133
>something that isn't alive
Well, at least now I can say with full confidence that you are retarded.

>>128967191

This is the case for everyone, nearly all the time. We call ourselves the "wise ape" and boast about our "self awareness" but it's really just a shell game. We're "more" aware than other animals (perhaps, who knows about dolphins) but nowhere near fully "self-aware".

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What's that, you're against rape? So you're going to willingly offer sex to ethnic youths for free, right?

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>>128966819
>insect minded SHEEP.
As the other anon said there are plenty of countries globally killing brown babies at rates that dwarf the TOTAL US abortions (let alone just the white ones which I just established are about 15% of US abortions)

On a global scale white abortions are low.
On a national scale white abortions are low.
And on both scales brown babies are aborted at astronomically higher rates than white ones.

What's your point, man?

>>128963940
Horrible with women.
And little to no empathy for anyone vaguely different.
t.Raised by based dad.

>>128966981
It's not that a person taking care of their shouldn't be expected, it's there are too many dumb fucks who won't. And that shouldn't be held against an innocent kid.

No silver spoon, but the basics to grow up with a fighting chance should be provided

>>128967228

So? Abortions go down, so does population growth. Hmm, it's almost as if you're a fucking imbecile!

>>128950399
Me

>>128967432
>but the basics to grow up with a fighting chance should be provided

Sounds like a great argument against abortion to me.

>>128967275
Remember that part where I said it's the closest thing to eugenics we have right now?

That almost implies that I'm striving for something better.

Think long and hard on what that might be.
I believe in you.

>>128967511
It doesn't matter what you "strive" for, if your ideology supports killing babies it is a SHIT ideology.

>>128967672
Nice goalpost shifting, christcuck.

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>>128967437
>whites go down shitskins go down who cares if whites are trailing behind desperately
>birth control is awesome if i completely ignore its the pandoras box to shitskin immigration for whites

>le nobody wants to adopt anyone maymay

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYONE WANTS TO ADOPT KIDS THE PROCESS IS FUCKING DIFFICULT AND LONG HOLY SHIT I PERSONALLY KNOW LIKE 14 COUPLES THAT WANT TO ADOPT KIDS ONE OF THEM DOESNT EVEN CARE ANYMORE SHE'D TAKE A TEENAGER FUCK THIS COMIC IS DUMB

>>128967814
What goalposts have been shifted? From the very beginning I've been calling you an awful person for supporting the murder of babies, you fucking retard.

>>128967382
>whites desperately outbred per capita
>but anon theres a billion niggers thus so many of them die who cares is we linger and fade out of existence as we become completely swarmed out by the hoards of orks thank god we have abortion were more white women get abortions than give birth dog bless welfare

>>128967828

So you agree that you're a fucking imbecile? Good talk. Now go fuck yourself you pinhead dickwad.

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>>128967951
>you should advocate for genetic engineering instead of abortion
>>I am.
>WELL UR STILL DUM

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>>128950232
>>128950399

>>128968013
So you agree abortion is not nigger control when abortion hardly exists in nigger countries(lmao when you post chinks) and starts up in white countries and other birth control and is thus the source of the immigration? Good talk.

>>128968010
I never said we're not being outbred.
You're arguing that abortions are bad because more white are being killed than muds.

That is patently false.

>>128950232
>against murder
>not a career cop
durp
>against arson
>not a firefighter
hurp
gtfo op

>>128950232
>adopt
Why the fuck is this a thing. Foster families are a one way ticket to abuse. Why can't we just have well run orphanages?

>>128968171

What makes you think abortion doesn't exist in nigger states? Oh right, it's your total stupidity and ignorance. Also, we're talking about the US, try and keep up retard. What difference does it make to you if niggers breed in nigger countries?

>>128950232
>Average cost of adopting a child is $40,000
>Average cost of abortion is $300

>>128950804
>baby
It's not even human when it is a fetus, just a clump of cells. It shouldn't be a problem unless the baby is around a month from being born.

>>128968083
And you're still a terrible human being for wanting to murder babies in the mean time.

Tell me this: If your end goal is genetic engineering, how in the world does abortion fit in to this? If genetic engineering will eventually fulfill your eugenics goals, doesn't that just mean that any life lost to abortion is wasted needlessly in the mean time?

>>128968199
Yes its blatantly true.

Whites have a more morbid KDR than niggers because of abortions. Just because you kill one infant nigger or kill many infant niggers a day(because they outnumber you objectively) doesn't stop her from having five before or after that said abortion. Whites on the other hand almost never have children before or after abortions, especially not in their primes and thus have complications. The majority of niggers getting abortions have already had children. Its actually a way for niggers to stabilize themselves in the welfare systems as too many children means you start falling off the max welfare profit plateau of three.

Its another piece of the welfare chess. Throw the entire board out.

>>128950232

Lame liberal argument.

There are more couples looking to adopt than there are kids to be adopted at this time.

Learn to not be such a fucking retard for once, you liberal cunt.

>>128968306
Waiting for you to find them. And even then are you really doing any good if they have more children than you anyways? You are just throwing in another game for the welfare queens to play with YOUR money.

>>128968171
That's a terrible argument.

LIFE in nigger control.

The only reason africa has ANY niggers left is because of white people babying them.
Also, liberals in their nigger loving wisdom, are starting to push for abortions in africa as well because they're fixated on the idea of "muh single motherhood is the sole cause of poverty."

Expect them to become the baby killing capital of the world withing 5-10 years.

>>128968422
>And you're still a terrible human being for wanting to murder babies in the mean time
Just the ones whose lives will be horrible wastes of time and resources anyway.
>how in the world does abortion fit in to this?
It's a stop-gap
>If genetic engineering will eventually fulfill your eugenics goals, doesn't that just mean that any life lost to abortion is wasted needlessly in the mean time?
No it means we did the best we could with what we had.
It's like throwing buckets of water on a fire until the fire department shows up. Not a total waste, just not as good as what the future holds.

>>128954986
Wtf i love abortion now

>>128968706
>white people should stop babying africans
>but we should pay for their abortions that also gives our own a way to kill their children and stifle our numbers

lmao at your retarded logic.

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>>128968673

Find what, you thick prick? Abortion rates in Africa? Oh look, 0.0001 seconds in google, wow that was really hard to find, I can see why a total moron like you had trouble!

For contrast the rate in the US is 14.5, but only ~1/3 of those are whites. Gee, I guess that completely destroys your """argument""", doesn't it, thick-o?

>>128968706
>It's like throwing buckets of water on a fire until the fire department shows up. Not a total waste, just not as good as what the future holds.

Are you fucking kidding me right now? We're talking human lives here, not buckets of water. I'm all for waiting 50 or 100 years if it means sparing millions of lives. How in the world can you possibly justify this kind of evil? There is absolutely NO way it makes sense to kill millions of babies if mere patience is all it takes to save them. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>128968863
WE'RE not paying for it.
It's mostly shit like christian missions and other such excursions of naive white women funding pushing liberal bullshit overseas.

Even if we did pay for it, is that not money well spent to you? Woudl you rather it go to feeding them and building them houses and facilities to ruin by the next year?

>>128968923
>And even then are you really doing any good if they have more children than you anyways? You are just throwing in another game for the welfare queens to play with YOUR money.
>And even then are you really doing any good if they have more children than you anyways? You are just throwing in another game for the welfare queens to play with YOUR money.

can't finish reading before you feather get ruffled, chap? Sure its great its legal in african countries, probably not for free to any egress in many of those if you dig deeper thus worthless, now answer white germany, swden, ect ect even american when it was majority white? This has only opened the floodgates to the hordes breeding like animals behind our civilized guards.

>>128969103
Money well spent is money spent supporting whites and white families, not niggers killing their own they do it just fucking fine without us BELIEVE ME.

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>>128968706
>The only reason africa has ANY niggers left is because of white people babying them

keked at how stupid you are to think the africans who outnumber whites in such abundance that single whites kept entire families of africans as slaves wouldn't exist without your intervention. When there were too many niggers for niggers which is why they sold them to you in the first place.

>>128969135

Nice goalpost shifting you semi-retard subnigger. I accept your graceless admission of total defeat.

>>128969099
I "justify" it because I'm not a christcuck that attributes human characteristics to a lump of cells and I'm not a short sighted faggot that wants to force children to live under shitty parents that can't support them.
Even if you think they're fully functional beings it's just a mercy killing which I have absolutely no moral qualms with.

>>128964247
>So lets just kill them.

No let them grow up to be degenerate filth

>>128968390
>nip calling somone else subhuman

>>128968667
Bull
S
H
I
T

People don't want to adopt what's available. No one wants to adopt a crack baby named La'tishamaqua.

>>128969289
Read my fucking posts these are points i have brought up long ago its not my fault you have the mind of an insect. Construct you argument with more fucking thought than that next time.

>>128964844
check

>>128969253
>niggers sold niggers because there were too many niggers and not because they wanted shiny beads
niggers actually believe this

>>128969305
We're all just lumps of cells. Dehumanizing something just so you can justifying killing it is not acceptable. You need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, anon.

>>128950232
This is hardly an argument.

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What does/pol/ think about down syndrome people and other genetically hindered people? What's your stance on abortion for those?

Also what are your views on Euthanasia?

>>128969407
slaveery was a convenient way to remove rival factions and adjusting their children to your rule, even whites know that.

you white devils ran out of native american slaves and went black.

/the blacks reproduced like cain toads and now you're trying to figure out how to fix it.

tough shit. should've pickled your own cotton.

>>128969253
They're r selection breeders. This has been shown time and time again to be a failed strategy because when the food dries up all of your vast vast numbers will be wiped out in one fell swoop.

The only reason that hasn't happened is because we keep shipping them food.

If the world started ignoring africa tomorrow their population would decline by 95% by next year.

>>128968390
You're a clump of cells too.

Tell me, how many rocks makes a pile?
How many cells make a human?

>>128969365
>HURR Y ABORT ONLI IN HWIT CUNT?
>"But look here you stupid nigger, abortion rates are LOWER in white countries than anywhere else bar Japan"
>DURR I MEN WELFAR Y DIS IS BAD
>"You realize the solution to welfare babies is MORE abortion, not less?"
>HURRR
>DURRR
>DEEEERRRR

I'm done with you dumb-dumb. Go play in traffic.

>>128950232
America has a ridiculously high adoption rate
Essentially, if you give a newborn up, it's guaranteed to be adopted within 6 months unless it's special needs.
If we had no abortion, it'd still be awhile before we drop into low numbers.

>>128969432
Did you forget how to read again?
>Even if you think they're fully functional beings it's just a mercy killing which I have absolutely no moral qualms with.

Or do you think resigning a child to a life of misery under a shitty whore of a mother is better than just giving them the mercy of a quick death?

>>128969305
Just because you're such a pussy that you would rather die than live a hard life doesn't mean someone else is you coward.

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>>128969661
>HURR LOOK NIGGER CONTROL
>whites not having babies silently
>niggers having a fucking orgy and outbreeding us loudly funded by shlomo foundation with goyims money
>g-go play in traffic how dare you shake my world view like this NO ILL KEEP PAYING FOR NIGGERS YOU CANT STOP ME I WONT HAVE KIDS REEEEEE

>>128954173
>incentivize abortion-seekers to instead donate their newborn baby

We tried that, and the insane drug-abusing baby momma comes back for custody.

You can't deny her, and if you try to buy her off it gets worse.

>>128969432
>keep once lump of cells alive but ruin the lives of 3 or more lumps (the family)

Or

>periodically kill one lump so that the others can survive and have a better life.

Would you be in favour of keeping people with horrible mutation alive? Or forcing a mother to bear a child if it will literally kill her?
What about organ donation? Should we force everyone to give up their kidneys so people without them can live ?

>>128969831
Just because you're such an internet badass that wants to suffer through 70 years of misery while draining every institution you touch doesn't mean everyone else is, you retard.

>>128969831
It doesn't mean that you should force a whole family to go through with suffering of another too.

>>128969641
>They're r selection breeders.

implying all humans aren't

>This has been shown time and time again to be a failed strategy because when the food dries up all of your vast vast numbers will be wiped out in one fell swoop.

I gues that why after being mowed down repeatedly by famine and euro wars, they still outnumber whites by a billion, as do the asians and indians who faced similar circumstances of food drying up.


If the world started ignoring africa tomorrow their population would decline by 95% by next year.

But they won't ignore africa all the minerals in your electronics come from africa. And they have to keep it under control through central banks or else the world markets would get flooded with diamonds and gold.


Honestly you just wann believe yourself superior to brownskinned folks because you're white and realize your homeland is becoming the home of brown people due to the actions of your own leaders.

so idk why you hate blacks so much when it seems their mating strategy works, and yours is failing.

>>128970027
Little bit of projection there anon. You're forcasting of another's yet to be determined life isn't an argument for execution.

>>128969778
>mercy killings

So you're not only ok with killing babies, you're ok with killing any one you deem in need of your "mercy"? You're a genuinely evil human being. I'm not even going to continue this conversation with you, you're clearly fucked in the head.

>>128950232
Fair enough, let's just kill them then

>>128970255
Then put it up for adoption.

>>128950232
"Who wants to be a responsible adult and keep their dick in their pants or who is willing to take care of their own child"

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>>128970304
Yes because children of whore single mothers and brood mother niggers are known for their amazing success rates, right?

>>128970014
My sister has a severe mental disability. No one's life was ruined by allowing her to live. She is at worst an inconvenience, and I don't think it's acceptable to kill people because they are an inconvenience to me.

>>128970304
Yes you can, if it's known the child will be born with horrible mutations and it's known that the mother will be killed in child birth then you can accurately assume that the total worth of life has been diminished by not having an abortion.

>>128950399
me

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When you think about it, you would really benefit by having military owned orphanages like spartans.

Put those degenerate to work.

>>128970474
'Success' is nonspecific term that is irrelevant to an individual's right to life

>>128970499
Nice to know, but for someone with a severe mutation that renders them brain dead and/or trapped in their own body with no way to communicate or comprehend I would argue it's worse, that and if the mother does during child birth I would say it's worse as well

>>128961181
Name of semen demon?

>>128969500
abortion in general should be decided by the mother, father and a state official but should be ultimately decided by the to-be-parents with official giving an opinion if the child would be able to live a good life
and if the mother decides to keep the baby without father consent, he should be able to back out without any negative precautions, abortion should be recommended if the child is retarded in any way but shouldnt be forced still

euthanasia is a difficult matter as its very easily exploitable, as my opinion it could be allowed but it would need so many security passes that i cant see it being implemented in a smart way

>>128966370
Aren't these the same people saying we gotta take care of our own before we worry about the world?

>>128970409
Would you adopt a Zika virus affected baby?

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>>128964755

Most aborted children are non white.

Fucking hate pro lifers on /pol/, fucking hypocrites. Human life on its own has no sanctity, either. A life must be beneficial to the state, and be a part of something greater than itself. Children that are aborted are just going to grow up in unstable and unhappy circumstances, and become unstable and unhappy people. Life like that is not worth.

>>128970700
>if the mother does during child birth I would say it's worse as well
Literally a non issue. Go look up the rate at which mothers die in childbirth; it's amazingly low in pretty much any developed country.

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>>128966230

>>128970302
>implying all humans aren't
White are k type. That's why we perform so much better.
We have fewer offspring but invest heavily in them.
>the rest
Asians indians and africans have all been saved by european trade.
Asians established the silk road early on which allowed them to become rich enough to breed themselves into squalor.
India only got to where it was because of it's century under british rule.
And africa has been on global welfare since it was discovered. Every single person that's ever had wealth in africa was directly related to european influence.

>so idk why you hate blacks so much when it seems their mating strategy works, and yours is failing.
Why did you even make this post when you don't even know what r/k strategies are?
K types, by definition, have smaller numbers.
We don't need to "beat" them with numbers. I just want them gone because they're shitty to live around.

>>128970758
Thanks for your views, I'm personally for abortions in grave circumstances (mutation, death kg the mother ect). I think it should be taken very seriously and not given out Willy Nilly.

>>128970881
But still, it should be allowed for such cases.

>>128970522
Who is arguing against the case where the mother's life is in jeopardy?? Everything that can be done to preserve both lives should be done but no one is saying that the mother be denyed life-saving procedures.

>>128970679
Nice hair splitting there but you know damn well what "success" means.
Reminder that 85% of the prison population comes from a fatherless home.

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How about banning abortion for whites, while allowing it for blacks?

In fact, why not give economic incentives for abortions for blacks?

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>>128950232
Maybe have an honest conversation about it and people will respond.
If you wanna cough up the money for your own degeneracy, great!
Have at it!!
Don't make me an acomplice in your bullshit while leaving me with the bill.

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>>128950399

Me

>>128971059
I disagree. I don't think taking the life of another because it is an inconvenience to you can ever be justified.

>>128970499
>No one's life was ruined by allowing her to live
All that means is that you were lucky enough to have the time and money to take care of her.
Not everyone is.

>>128950232
pro-abortion for eugenic purposes is the only correct answer

>>128971066
Interesting to note, those procedures aren't, or at least don't need to be, abortions. The most common thing is early induction of labor.

>>128950232

Not adoption, mandatory sterilization for criminals and welfare receivers

It's simple as fuck

Better to sterilize a whore than to kill the whores child

>>128971097
>gets called out on bullshit
>h-hairsplitting!

>>128971399
>implying it's bullshit
>implying I didn't just give a statistic that shows an obvious trend between single mothers and wasted lives of their children
>implying you can read

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>>128950232
/pol/ is a pro abortion board.

Planned Parenthood kills more niggers in a day than the KKK killed in a century.

>>128971579
There you go on with your own, subjective values on how much a person's life has to be 'worth' in order to not be executed. If this policy were actually implemented to the population as a whole, 4chan would be a ghost town

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>>128971841
>If this policy were actually implemented to the population as a whole, 4chan would be a ghost town
Are you seriously trying to say that would be a bad thing?

>>128971990
For starters there would be a huge meme deficit.

>>128972099
I still don't see why that would be a problem.

>>128972156
Shillary wouldn't have gone on national television attacking a cartoon frog.

>>128950232
Lots of people adopt. What kind of shit cartoon is this

>>128950232
whites and christians adopt more than the opposite groups so just what are you implying? how about sterilizing niggers instead of abortions?

>>128950399
me

>>128964755
Is...that an invitation to rape you?

>>128964781
>Forced to go to china

>>128950232
more like who wants to practice safe sex

>>128971185
>mother will die if she gives birth
>inconvenience
I'm 90% sure you just read my post wrong, at least I hope, I'm making the argument that if a mothers life is in danger and all other options have been exhausted, then abortion is justified

>>128951527
Also adoption agencies tend to not let white parents adopt black children because it will lead to "cultural genocide", because black culture is such a valuable and important part of American society.

>>128968390
Its a human being. People who say this are ignorant and trying to justify it. Im glad abortion is legal but lets call it what it is - legalized murder

There should be a stipulation that, with your first abortion, you get sterilized. Also, if you go on welfare, you should be sterilized.

>>128972717
You got sauce on this man?

>>128965993
Why not both?

>>128967255
Christard abortion is preventing the spread of black people.

>>128972716
185/1 million will die. The odds one of those girls wants an abortion makes it even slimmer. Theres literally no way to predict most those complications before the fetus is at a viable age. This is a non argument the left uses as a crutch

>>128972716
I agree that prioritizing the mother's life in an emergency is fine but I don't agree that in those situations an abortion is what's performed. The outcome may be the same but its an important nuance. Early induction of labor before the child has matured isn't the same as going in and dissecting it.

>>128967133
>heartbeat
>brainwaves
>metabolism
>unique dna
>can smile and cry

Sounds like life to me

>>128973054
>Theres literally no way to predict most those complications before the fetus is at a viable age
lol yes you can, just by ultrasound
the biggest two are placenta praevia (placenta at cervix) and ectopic pregnancy (fetus not in uterus)

>>128950232
adoption is designed for families that cant have children.

>>128971190
>not everyone has money
Get a job

>>128973862
Ectopic pregnancy isn't an immediate cause for abortion. Location is important and ectopics have been carried to term.

>>128969657
Ok, so are you telling me everyone is committing murder in the millions each time they jerk off? They are cells too right?

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>>128950232
Somebody can make the faces black for the second image, because nobody wants to adopt black babies, especially blacks.

>>128952134

> are humans even humans?

>>128974138
No. Your gametes are part of your body. When they fuse, they develop the first unique cell of an individual's body.

>>128973862
>placenta praevia
Doesnt happen until mod to late third trimester
>ectopic pregnance
Will resolve itself. There are maybe a handful of cases where an ectopic goes full term and it wasnt fatal for the mother. Try again faggot

>>128973054
>ultrasounds mother
"I'm sorry, but your child had developed and been affected with a mutation that will cause it to kill you if you should carry it to term, it has 8 arms and is embedded into your uterine walls"

"Can I have an abortion? I don't want to die"

"Lol no, the chance of this happening is so slim that we don't let abortions happen"

>>128962335
Lol and who exactly is going to enforce that "right"??? Chads are 2000% more likely to marry your innocent virgin qts if they want to

>>128974138
Wtf Are you literally in junior high? Do japs not take biology in school?

>>128974382
More children would be saved from banned abortions than women would die from banned abortions

Your argument is invalid.

>>128974382
What are things that have never happened

>>128974083
you do know that the vast majority (>95%) of untreated ectopic pregnancies end in massive haemorrhage, right?
and the minority that are viable are born like on the 28th week where they only live in 1st world countries with lots and lots of $$$ for intensive care

>>128962338
: (

I'm pretty sure there's a shortage of infants for parents looking to adopt

>>128950232
Most abortions are black.....

>>128950804
Yes.

>>128974171
sterilize all niggers

>>128974371
For the sake of playing devils advocate, some ectopic cases occur in the fallopian tube which will 100% not be able to go to term and are a real threat to the mothers life. However, as ive argued earlier, abortion isn't whats used to resolve this. Removing the compromised portion of the tube respects both lives because it is not a direct attack on the child, but a treatment to the mother that has the forseeable, but not intentional ending of their life.

>>128974611
You made that number up. Hardly anyone ever dies from ectopic pregnancies. Less than one in 3000

>>128950399
me

>>128975138
Theres a big leap from treating an ultra rare ectopic pregnancy that is life threatening to using abortion as birth control

>>128975527
I agree. However discussing all possible scenarios is good for demystifying the whole "abortion saves mother's lives" meme.

>>128972717
That's bullshit.
My brother was married to a chick for 10 years, she had one son from before my brother, one daughter with my brother, and then they adopted two black kids, one with down syndrome.

Unrelated but after about 3 or 4 years with the kids his wife ended up deciding she was a lesbian and divorced him, she's now with some other chick that has a kid of her own from a previous guy.

I don't believe a woman is a lesbian if she's ever had a dick so far up her cooch that she got pregnant multiple times. This woman is a complete and utter cunt in every sense of the word.

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>>128950232

Why is it so difficult for so many people to place a simple piece of latex on their dick?

>>128974312
Exactly, its half a baby, just like fetuses which isnt complete.

>>128975723
It decreases the amount of pleasure derived from sex. Youd know this if you wernt a virgin

>>128976210
>weak ass bait
Have a pity (You)

>>128974576
So does that make it right? Killing a few mothers to save many children, the logical stance would be to allow mothers at risk to get an abortion.

The overwhelming majority of children who's mothers die in child birth are also still births or at great risk of dying them selves, why not save the mother at least than force both the child AND the mother to die.

81% of children die when the mother also dies in child birth.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4423767/


>>128974606
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1994004/pregnant-child-bride-dies-giving-birth-because-her-body-was-too-young-to-take-the-strain-of-pregnancy/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213168/Fawziya-Abdullah-Youssef-dies-labour-Child-bride-12-dies-Yemen-struggling-birth-THREE-days.html

And we haven't even begun to talk about rape babies or young underage children being forced to carry to term.

>>128976272
Just because rape is going to happen no matter what doesn't mean we have to provide a nice, professional bedroom for them to perform the act.

>>128976212
Heroin induced sex is better than regular sex but I don't see excusing heroin induced sex.

>>128976486
No but it doesn't mean you should force a rape victim to carry her child to term either.

>>128976604
Ok so you concede on the fact that abortion happening anyways isn't an argument.
The child is still innocent. Everything discussed in this thread still applies.

>>128976272
>cntrl f
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Ok

>>128976407
I never got the rape meme. What does that have to do with anything

>>128976719
No, I'm making an argument that under specific circumstances (mother will die in child birth, baby is completely brain dead(Zika Virus affected), stillbirths and rape babies) abortion would be fully justified.
For those examples at least.

>>128976726
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4411854/amp/Baby-eight-limbs-gets-new-lease-life-India.html

Terrible mutation can and do happen, majority of the time, if it's life threatening to the mother, the child is aborted, it just so happen in this case it wasn't.

>>128976514
Lots of people fuck on herion what are you on about faggot

>>128976824
A mother being raped and forced to carry her rapist child to term is a massive immoral burden placed on her, she never asked for the child, it was forced on her.

Think of it like someone forcing you to give up your kidney to save a strangers life, admire yes, but you shouldn't be forced to do it.

And yes I'm aware than you can also give it up for adoption. But to force someone to live with a constant physical reminder of your rape for 9-9.5 months is immoral.