does leftism related to low birth rates in Europe?

>>128948020
https://youtu.be/4wpca1ZDIRQ?t=20m13s

Yes, ive met European leftists and they don't want to have kids for political reasons.

>>128948305
watching it, it is an interesting video
>>128948522
but what political reasons make you dont want to have kids?

>>128949586
Just jump to 24 minutes

>>128949586
Hatred of Humanity, Hatred of their own race, desire to avoid traditional gender roles, etc

>>128949586
Extreme enviromentalism, Internationalism, cosmopolitanism, socialism. They told me it was selfish to have kids. Which is ironic because they would be just living for themselves.

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>>128950080
Also What this Aussie said

>>128948020
Your hunch is correct Egyptbro, but leftism has a special effect on Europeans that causes them to suicide their genetic line. Avoid it at all costs.

>>128949859
as I thought leftism related, thanks for the video and the channel it is very interesting
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why would anyone hate his genetic line or his race or how it is selfish to have kids ?! I know I am from different culture but this stuff drive me crazy trying to understand it, I am glad we still appreciate the family values here

>>128951805
Europeans and Whites in the US were convinced by (((Marxists))) that because they had successful empires which were mean to the people they conquered that there own race was somehow evil.

They think it is selfish to have kids because they think the world is overpopulated. This is a false assumption

>>128951805
>why would anyone hate his genetic line or his race or how it is selfish to have kids

if you're socially indoctrinated enough you'll believe anything

here some white people hate themselves because they think we stole the land from the natives, americans do the same with black slaves, english for their empire

we're also taught that the world can only sustain a certain number of people, this means some think it's selfish to reproduce and that they can solve the problem of this and racial guilt by being the end of their genetic line

>>128948020
Leftism tells people not to make more children, but to make only 1 to 2 maximum children because they are supposed to be more happy since you would have time to care more for them, it would cost you less money, and so on, which is bullshit with all the benefits they give if you have more children.

>>128951805
because weve been taught that everything the west has accomplished, is because our ancestors were evil exploiters and murderers of the colored people. we are taught that our consumption is destroying the planet. we are taught that our race is the same as an africans so no need for us to personally have kids.

mostly, the act of having a child is seen as selfish act because of doublethink. in reality, its used to justify the selfish tendencies of people to pursue their own happiness rather than find happiness through serving a new life.
plus everything else... extended adolescense, wage stifling, women in the workplace, fucked gender relations. our biology is working against us too, somehow we've poisoned ourselves. men used to have average 40% good sperm. our average is now 4%. i want a fuckload of kids but just found out my sperm dont know how to recognise what an egg is. fucking hell.

>>128948020
Leftists not reproducing means that natural selection in the future will get rid of leftists.

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how anyone with fully functional brain would be convinced by this argument? isnt logical to compare the old history by a modern eye and identify it as evil, this making me confused because I know the west have good educational system, that why many of us got to study abroad and I am going to study abroad, but good education is the opposite of these bullshits
>>128953258
but in the same time muslims reproducing like rabbits in this rates the west will be other middle east and I dont like the idea of living in a world with a majority of muslims

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>>128954102
>this making me confused because I know the west have good educational system, that why many of us got to study abroad and I am going to study abroad, but good education is the opposite of these bullshits

education used to be very limited, doctors and engineers would get degrees
but then from the 60s on schools have been offering more degrees which only enable you to teach the classes you took, so sociologists need to get more students

if you're studying science it's usually better

>>128955716
hmm yeah like the gender studies thing, I dont know what is the point of having a whole degree for this thing?!
I am going to study engineering, it is away from these bullshits

>>128948020
Women that stay home get bored and make babies, while in Western Europe and the West in general women are expected to pursue a career, so they have less time to make babies, also less time to raise them so they have to pay someone to do that (that's why new generations turn more and more fucked up).
It isn't necessarily ideology although ideology could solve this problem I guess.

>>128956720
Nice thinking Egyptian, become a strong man and make your country and community better. Despite our differences, I think our nations ought to be able to have an amicable future

>>128948020
Socialism drastically reduces incentives for raising children while also effectively increasing the costs (despite claiming to reduce the costs).

Reduced incentive is simpler. With nationalized ("public" or "universal") healthcare and pension systems, you get the same retirement lifestyle no matter what. Having more children does not mean you get more. Even if the system reduces this incentive so much that it causes its own failure (not enough tax revenue to support benefits), as it will eventually, you can't have enough children to affect the crisis.

Increased (effective) cost is complex.

Children are costly to begin with. They take time, effort, and money to raise. In most societies (all by the worst), this will be far more than just what is needed to educate the a child for future work and keep it alive until adulthood. Parents also want to raise their children with a standard of living equivalent to or better than the one to which they are accustomed. This means "luxuries" - things beyond those provided by the state in a socialist system.

Socialism makes luxuries more expensive in two ways. First, it reduces available funds through income taxes. Second, it makes goods and services themselves more expensive through various other sorts of taxes (VAT, sales tax, consumption tax) and other regulatory costs. Socialism promises to compensate for this by taking care of things it considers necessities, but people who had more than the minimum amount of earning ability needed for survival already had the necessities covered without such programs. Maintaining a given standard of living level above the what is provided by the state is more expensive than it would be without socialism. This penalty is multiplied for each dependent to whom a given earner tries to provide a given level of "luxury".

>>128948020

Short answer OP.

Yes

>>128957521
well my mother is a teacher so she is working but still she put her family first and knows how to balance her life because she knows her family more important than a career supposed to earn money so you can support your family and your life what is the point in living only for a career? , I dont think woman who wants kids cant work in the same time if they wanted to work.
>>128957606
Thanks. Exactly!

>>128948020
>does leftism relate to low birth rates in europe?

Yes. Since leftists are usually economically incoherent and Keynesian, they eventually lead themselves into inflation, taxation, homelessness, and death. Simply, the lack of knowledge concerning monetary policy is the fall of the left (and right today, because its under israeli control).

>>128952563
The funny thing is, Despite the US having 300 million people it's still underpopulated. Nearly half the US (Not counting Alaska) has no people living in it. We should cut immigration for nearly everyone minus whites and raise our birth rate.

>>128959995
Look Up the block data for the U.S and you'll basically see it's true. Only the Midwest,West Coast,South and Northeast are populated.

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>>128948020
It's more to do with atheism than leftism.
No community connection, no purpose to life, everyone's just a meatbag stuck in a pointless struggle to survive and pass on genes, so why have kids?

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>>128948020

No.

>>128948020
Is birth control and condoms popular over there in Egypt?

>>128948020
>does leftism related to low birth rates in Europe?
Leftists have been shoving the hoax of "overpopulation" down the throats of Europeans for decades now. Combine that with ever increasing taxation and it gets harder and harder for Europeans to consider large families.

And that's when the leftists do the 180 and tell them they HAVE TO import shitskins to shore up the tax base to provide for the "aging and shrinking" european populations.

It was a very clever trick expertly done.