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Guardian: Oldest H. sapiens bones ever found shake foundations

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>The braincase (blue) indicates that brain shape, and possibly brain function, evolved WITHIN the Homo sapiens lineage

http://archive.is/yHKsW

Where were you when human biodiversity became mainstream science?
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>>128895917
Best. Timeline. Ever.
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>>128895917

OY VEY, SHUT IT DOWN!
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>>128896344
Checked.

The 21st century is going to be a wild ride. I have a feeling the fun hasn't even started yet.
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Can someone explain to an autistic NEET like me what this actually means?
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>>128896938
It means the Jews didn't shut it down hard enough yet.
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>>128896938
It means that just because niggers are "human" doesn't mean they're not inferior subhumans
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>>128896938

If it's true than we are not "all equal"

"It really does look like in Africa especially, but also globally, our evolution was characterised by numerous different species all living at the same time and possibly even in the same places.”
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>>128895917
>>128896938
>300,000 years old
>knapped stone stools
>in Morocco
>more Mediterranean than central African as out of Africa theory suggests
>evidence of major evolutionary divergence within the H.Sapien line directly confronts leftist view of there being no meaningful difference in ethnic groups
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>>128896938
It means that we evolved into separate human populations over 100,000 years earlier than previously thought, that were facially identical (ish) to modern humans long before the rest of us (our bodies, our brains) evolved into what they are today.

The implication being, that once these early proto-humans that looked like us but were about as smart as Homo Erectus migrated into different areas, that they then evolved into the modern human sub-populations according to localized evolutionary pressures, shaping their brains and bodies accordingly.

>>128897317
What this guy said.
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Meanwhile in America
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>>128897415
oy vey goy if you translate it correctly it isays the goyim are not equal and developed from many different species of cattle from around the world and need to be treated equally.
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First they find the oldest human remains in the Mediterranean a week ago and now this?
They're really killing out of Africa theory here.
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>>128895917
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>>128897974
>bill nye's face when
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>>128896938
Race is more than a social construct, it's a biological construct. Forensic Anthropologists already knew that but now there's damning evidence in support of it.
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this just in as well
http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/06/05/145409
>Ancient genomes from southern Africa pushes modern human divergence beyond 260,000 years ago

>Southern Africa is consistently placed as one of the potential regions for the evolution of Homo sapiens. To examine the region's human prehistory prior to the arrival of migrants from East and West Africa or Eurasia in the last 1,700 years, we generated and analyzed genome sequence data from seven ancient individuals from KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa. Three Stone Age hunter-gatherers date to ~2,000 years ago, and we show that they were related to current-day southern San groups such as the Karretjie People. Four Iron Age farmers (300-500 years old) have genetic signatures similar to present day Bantu-speakers. The genome sequence (13x coverage) of a juvenile boy from Ballito Bay, who lived ~2,000 years ago, demonstrates that southern African Stone Age hunter-gatherers were not impacted by recent admixture; however, we estimate that all modern-day Khoekhoe and San groups have been influenced by 9-22% genetic admixture from East African/Eurasian pastoralist groups arriving >1,000 years ago, including the Ju|'hoansi San, previously thought to have very low levels of admixture. Using traditional and new approaches, we estimate the population divergence time between the Ballito Bay boy and other groups to beyond 260,000 years ago. These estimates dramatically increases the deepest divergence amongst modern humans, coincide with the onset of the Middle Stone Age in sub-Saharan Africa, and coincide with anatomical developments of archaic humans into modern humans as represented in the local fossil record. Cumulatively, cross-disciplinary records increasingly point to southern Africa as a potential (not necessarily exclusive) 'hot spot' for the evolution of our species.
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The brain has always been the first part of the body to adapt to the environment. The fact (((science))) is just releasing this now means they are going to try to use this info to try and leverage homosex and trans shit as (((evolution))) even more.
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>>128898052
I read it as there finally being a push towards embracing the fact that ALL genetic anthropological data, ALL archaeological findings, ALL cognitive studies, and ALL the anecdotal sociological data points to differing heritable intelligence and behavior patterns between the races. All of it.

Scientists have been terrified of talking about it and getting the James Watson treatment, but as the years go on the evidence is growing so overwhelming that in the face of race-driven social dysfunction throughout the West, more and more of those who are informed are feeling the need to speak up and say something before the white race commits suicide.

Stuff like this, and that story from a couple weeks ago, to me, tells me that the scientific community, or groups within it, are setting the public up for some sort of "Galileo moment" that will shatter the 20th century notion of racial/cultural egalitarianism.
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>>128898720
The pushback from the scientific community could be incredible if this happens.

Perhaps the prevalence of Asians and Indians within the biological science community is the greatest thing that could happen to HBD.

We know that the gooks and the poo-in-loos are way more comfortable talking about racial heirarchies, and between the Caste System/paid sterilizations and the One-Child Policy, we know they aren't afraid to actually do something about it, either.

I can see white scientists playing along with >>128897974
>>128898277
because they want to virtue-signal and not risk their careers, but there's no way that Pajeet and Chang are going to play along once the overwhelming evidence against that purely political hypothesis finally out in the open.
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>>128896938
anti-racist pseudoscience which has dominated science, history, and politics has finally been disproven
also, whites really aren't descended from niggers as the 'out of (sub-saharan) africa' (((theory))) said
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Why white and black people can make babies and their mixed kids arent steril?
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>>128898419
>South Africa
>not a Antarctica
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>>128897082
>criminally underrated
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>>128898890
I think theres only one way this will turn out.
Things to keep in mind:
Africa is drastically larger than most people think
There was much more mega fauna in the world just a few thousand years ago
Humans would have been prey for dozens of large predators
Crossing through an immense and near impenetrable forest like the Congo would be near impossible for primitive people who were food for larger animals

Out of Africa was always a theory of massive gaps. I think its flat out wrong, I'd go so far as to say its wishful thinking. We have here a body near the Atlantic Ocean, only a short jaunt south of modern Europe from across the Mediterranean sea. Really this finding just poses more questions. Humanoids have been around for a very long time, and it could be that they had solid knowledge of navigating great distances over open terrain.
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So where exactly do they imply that we're not descended from east africans? Couldn't those various sub-species still have evolved from them? Explain
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>>128899442
Do you think Pajeet and Chang just don't know what causes street-shitting in their countries, or are they covering something up?
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>>128900543
>Africa is drastically larger
true!
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>>128896938
Previously:
>we're all the same, we all came out of Africa and any differences are the result of changes picked up along the way. We're all on the same evolutionary branch
>linear progression

Now:
>we actually came out of the Mediterranean, went our separate ways and evolved entirely differently from there. We're all different sub species
>complete divergence
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>>128900081
fucking Canadians.
>Why white and brown bears can make babies and their mixed cubs arent sterile?
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>>128900710
The Caste System, and it's modern descendant, the sterilizations and such aimed at the poor, as well as the One-Child policy tell me that at least the elites in China and India have no illusions whatsoever about the sub-human tendencies of the lower class populations within their respective societies.
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>Hah I totally believe I science and evolution while you guys believe in a grand sky wizard. Checkmate.

>What!? You're telling me that humans evolved differently all over the world? You fucking racist bigot! Everyone is the same! Diversity is our strength!
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>>128900910
?
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>>128895917
Leftists rejecting things like human biodiversity, race realism, evolutionary psychology, and sexual dimorphism is why I refer to them as "creationists of the mind".
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>>128896938
It means that the just one thing that niggers had which was being the cradle of man, it isn't true anymore.
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>>128900543
>I think theres only one way this will turn out.

And what would that be?

And agreed. Africa is mind-warpingly gigantic, and full of environmental obstacles that are essentially impassible without late-stone/bronze-age technologies. To cross the Sahara without most of your tribe dying of dehydration, you need domesticated camels so you can travel quickly between oases. To cross the jungle and the Savannah without most of your tribe being killed by big cats/chimps/gorillas/megafauna, you need fairly advanced weaponry and an evolved sense of teamwork.

It's much more likely that tiny seed groups spread out into these isolated pockets and proceeded to evolve essentially independently from each other, like Darwin's Galapagos Finches, than it was for some monolithic population to spread throughout the continent the way people did in North America or Eurasia.
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>>128900694
I'm sure there are a number of hushed opinions in academia, but nothing anyone is willing to risk their career for.
There being multiple branches of Sapiens existing concurrently is possible, but you'd still have to explain how they got to where they were.
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>>128901320
oh, I thought you were trolling, sorry. While certain animals can produce offspring that can't reproduce themselves like the offspring of tigers and lions or horses and mules (is that one true?), other animals can, like different bears. The reproduction between ice bears and brown bears happens in Canada for example.
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>>128901385
The oldest art is from your country, Spain.

The oldest musical instruments yet discovered are from Germany.

What does Africa have left? Oldest disease?
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>>128901383
I refer to them as dogmatic leftist fanatics. Their opinions and core political beliefs departed the world of reason and evidence a long, long time ago.
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>Liking "science" is the new hot new liberal, nu-male fad
>it shits all over their beliefs about equality
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>>128902222
>>128902066
>>128901866
>>128901211
>>128898277
>>128897600
>>128896344

I'm really liking the digits in this thread, BTW
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>>128902222
Truthseeking is poison to the left. They made a mistake throwing their hat in with "science"
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>>128902066
Oldest kangz
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>>128902066
Oldest flying pyramids
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>>128901748
>And what would that be?

Its suspected that the capacity for intelligence of early sapiens is very close to modern people. What then is the implication to the data we have available?
We have modern Africans stagnating in Africa, allegedly not terribly far from the supposed cradle of life where they first emerged.
We also have an even earlier example at the north of Africa spitting distance from the Mediterranean. If man is driven by following food sources then going around the Mediterranean would be an intelligent choice.
We know that some people groups carry certain portions of Neanderthal DNA while others do not.

Early man traveled with the Neanderthals. The Sapiens in the belly of Africa were the ones who got left behind and evolved entirely separate.
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Guys whites come from crashed generational spaceship.
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>>128901320
Different dog breeds can reproduce. That's a better analogy than the bears thing.
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>>128903286
dogs and wolves can as well apparently. I'm reading about it right now.
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>>128903609
A lot of dogs are part wolf mix. German Shepherds are something like 10% wolf still.
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>>128895917
Here is the actual link instead of the retarded Archive shit:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/07/oldest-homo-sapiens-bones-ever-found-shake-foundations-of-the-human-story

Pro-tip, use adblock so they dont get revenue. Problem solved. Fucking retards keep falling for the archive meme.
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>>128902435
The best thing we have going for us is the left's tendency to self-cannibalize.

Currently, it's chic for scientists to associate themselves with the left, because universities/academia/the media are all run by leftist humanities major types and the scientists need to
A: kiss their asses to keep their jobs
B: attract funding from leftist grant admins
C: hitch themselves to the side that appears "right" in order to gain legitimacy, in order to aid with A and B

Mark my words though, most true scientists still value the pursuit of truth, and still get a hard-on for following the data. It'll be interesting to see how they react once their science begins to veer from the left's pre-conceived dogmatic notions and they find themselves the targets of Gamergate-style attacks by the leftist media and the social sciences, complete with NY times Op-Eds about the need to
>challenge the toxic cultures of whiteness and masculinity within the life/cognitive sciences communities

Look at what that did to radicalize the basement-dwelling hentai-fapping shitposters of 4chan into a bunch of un-ironic 1488-ing national socialism advocates who drove a grassroots internet campaign powered by raw autism that pushed Donald J. Trump over the edge to beat the most coordinated campaign in the last 50 years into the white house.

Imagine what will happen when tens/hundreds of thousands of upper middle class folks with incredible social/political influence find themselves the targets of a similar coordinated attack, simply for doing what they love and pursuing the truth?
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>>128904207
The archive works fine.
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>>128903609
Do you even White Fang, Hans?
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>>128895917
This sort of stuff has been known in medical/genetic/bio research fields for decades but there's just been so much push-back at basic levels from lefties that most of it is still suppressed. Publishing of basic obvious research is prevented by raving Marxists who will demand your head if you dare go against the everyone is equal narrative they push. Even this will probably be prevented from going mainstream.
There was a a scientist, I forget his name, I think he was Chinese or Indian living in America? some years back that proved something similar to this but the backlash from the left made him lose funding and eventually abandon the whole project.
It should all come to a head soon though with China just not giving a fuck about the "morality" of genetic engineering and research in the face of being able to secure future dominance through real Eugenics.
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>>128904207
Fuck off shill
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>>128895917

American education strikes again.

Pray do tell, where is Morocco?
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>>128903160

What about Homo Erectus admixture in sub-saharan blacks?

One look at H. Erectus facial reconstructions makes me think that it gets even "darker" than that, and that sub-saharan populations may well have regressed due to admixture with pockets of H. Erectus and other pre-human hominids, which would explain away both the incredible genetic diversity between sub-saharan ethnic groups s well as the fact that they are so intellectually lacking compared to other human populations.
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>>128904679
>GRORIOUS CHINESE EMPIRE
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>>128904757
Northwest Africa, just south of Spain. Where do YOU think it is?
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what if autism is due to too much white DNA? we all know too much similar DNA is bad. What if all our maladies we cant explain are due to either race mixing or incest(basically)? is that possible or am i just retarded?
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>>128904768


Maybe they mixed with Homo naledi

Would explain the small brains
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>>128904679
now here's a thought experiment:

What do you think will happen once knowledge and discussion of this data goes mainstream in the US. What happens when it it no longer becomes possible for the left to suppress it and avoid discussing it?
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science

S.ome
C.razy
I.deas
E.ven
N.erds
C.ant
E.xplain
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>>128904933
Honestly its a real concern, they're quite obviously already working on designer babies and will be years ahead of other countries in developing them even if early attempts create horrible mutant children, and the only reason is that we're forced to play out this pathetic "moral dilemma" while they do it.
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>>128905667
This is litetally the red pill weve been waiting for lets spread this shit asap
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>>128895917
Fuck yeah, & thank you for the archive
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>>128904757
>where is Morocco?
is that the one that got molested during the crusades or the one with the bad food ?
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>>128904757
Are you stupid?
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>>128895917
>Fossils recovered from an old mine on a desolate mountain in Morocco

WE WUZ MOORS N SHIET
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>>128904757
HOLY SHIT THEY FOUND THESE IN
MOROCCO?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco,_Indiana
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>>128895917
They could only ignore it for so long.
>It suggests, said Hublin, that the modern brain evolved in Homo sapiens and was not inherited from a predecessor.
So to be clear, we're talking about speciation?
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Wake me up when they "discover" how niggers are natural evolution and whites a product of alien gene engineering to serve as the tip of the spear against the evil in the galaxy.
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why does the article say not to get too excited?
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>>128905498
I have a hypothesis that naturally occurring autism is a product of the universe's natural "immune system" against the dark cabal seeking to confuse and control humanity and the world. This would be considered "High functioning autism."
However, then there is neural poison induced autism brought on by giving "one size fits all" vaccines to kids and babies, and who knows what all else. A dependency on overly processed food in one's diet is more than likely going to make it worse too.
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>>128905667
I don't really know, maybe they embrace designer babies so long as darkies can still look dark. Superficiality is pretty big among them so it may be more true than I even think.
Maybe we'll just fall behind and become part of the third world though.
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>>128895917
What's the basic gestalt on this?
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>>128896938
Evolution doesn't end at the brain.
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>>128905727
Meanwhile, the US has the potential to beat them at their own game if we ever decided to push the designer baby meme.

Imagine if we picked up where the slaveowners left off, and continued to engineer black males into being the perfect IQ 95 subservient muscle, to serve as construction workers, infantry, law enforcement, and everywhere we need somebody big, strong, reliable, and able to take incredible amounts of physical punishment.

Meanwhile, we engineer the asians and the hispanics into diligent, if not particularly creative or dynamic middle class labor, doing everything that requires a couple brain cells and not much more.

Meanwhile, we latch onto the greatest qualities that whites have, which are bravery, ambition, and creativity, and breed the white race into the overseers, the leaders, the 21st century Washingtons, Jeffersons, Madisons, Franklins, and such. Warrior-poet architects of our nation's future overseeing an army of specialized racial sub-populations that are perfectly adapted to their niches within the great societal machine, a modern evolution the very nation that our Founding Fathers created.

The more I dig into this stuff, the more I'm convinced that if/when humanity ever gets off this rock, it won't be as an egalitarian utopian society like The Federation.

No, we're going to go a different route. If we're to advance to the stars, we're going to become The Dominion.
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>>128906856
>naturally occurring autism
>against the dark cabal seeking to confuse and control humanity and the world

Autism is just half-socially functioning apes. It happens.
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>morocco
>not in africa

>homo sapiens lineage
>implying the other older human bones are not in sub-saharan africa

We all come from chimps stupid jesusfags
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>>128904757
Read the thread you moron.
1) that refers primarily to the "out of africa" theory which says humans evolved as a single population in subsaharan east africa. Morocco is south of the Mediterranean, on the other side of the congo and across the sahara. That, combined with two other recent studies constitute a major blow to the out of africa theory because the idea that humans evolved independently in or around Europe and the middle east is potentially supported by these.
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>>128902222
Could replace "science" with "islam" and it'd still be right
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>>128895917
just red-pilled my mom and dad; I'm looking forward to the conversations that follow
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>>128906516
Read "Coming Apart" by Charles Murray (of The Bell Curve fame). He basically says without saying that the economic pressures of the 21st century knowledge economy is resulting in further speciation along class lines.

I redpilled my fiancee on the real causes and implications of socioeconomic inequality based off of that book.
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>>128895917
Humans were made by gods ie aliens. Different races were made by different gods in different places, so for that reason there wouldn't be found something like "one proto human language".
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>>128899442
my Indian friends appreciate culture and tradition far more than my white friends
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>>128906884
Realistically, I think it's painfully obvious that our multicultural societies are going to branch into Elysium-like super-Brazils in terms of the rich/poor divide that will eventually lead to breakaway societies once the high caste of whites/asians/indians achieve the means to leave this rock.
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>>128905667
The truly intelligent among the intellectuals will show themselves and adjust their perspective while the pseudo-intellectuals will somehow blame this on Trump and claim that this sudden departure from the we wuz kangz theory just proves how corrupt he is.
I wouldn't pin any hopes on this waking up the zombies. They're already too far gone.
That's what happens when someone invests too much of him or herself into something that he or she doesn't even understand and relies on feels to guide him or her. Pride becomes the anchor that drags them down to drown.
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>>128904507
This
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>>128904507
Watch them take over the Christian right's rhetoric. "Science doesn't know everything!! Science changes its mind all the time! We know the truth!" They'll do it, it'll happen.
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>>128907986
One of my fiancee's best friends is a Zoroastrian Gujarati who, even though she's liberal and voted for Hillary, laughs and is in 100% agreement with me when I talk about the "demographic dysfunctions" (i.e. low-IQ blacks and hispanics) within the US and how they ensure that Scandinavia-style socialism would be a fiscal disaster that would cripple this country's economy because of the rate at which they consume existing welfare spending.

I also grew up in a very immigrant-heavy community in Massachusetts (Lexington) and when I voted in last year's primary, one of the moments when I knew Trump was something else entirely was when I saw a little old Indian, housewife, replete with sari and red dot, proudly holding a "Republican" ballot with the bubble next to "Donald J. Trump" filled in.

Even left-leaning Indians and Chinese are incredibly redpilled when it comes to domestic/social issues.
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>>128900894
>>complete divergence

Every biologist that paid attention during their introduction to evolutionary taxonomy has known this for decades. They just couldn't say so until now...
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>>128907193
Sounds like jewish talk boy.
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>>128909214
Post YFW 100s of years from now, the "egalitarian" science behind Out of Africa, Women's Suffrage, the Civil Rights movement, etc is spoken about as a deviation from the truth and reason in the same vein as alchemy, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Salem Witch Trials are today.
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>>128906917
Read the thread faggot.
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>>128909446
If my cock was uncircumcised, I'd timestamp it. I like to think that we'll take care of the JQ before that all would happen, though.

Jews care only about money, which is why they never explored new lands or pushed humanity forward on their own, instead choosing to make money off of the fruits of White/Aryan ambitions.

We're going to need to shed those parasites if we're ever going to right the course of humanity back to where it was before JFK was assassinated and get our asses off of this rock.
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>>128909511
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The weak chin, prognathism and rounded nasal cavity makes it very apelike (read: negroid).
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>>128909511
In about 30 years, maybe less, I imagine the whole Transgender thing will be looked at almost exactly in the same light that Lobotomies are looked at now. These people kill themselves at such a rate that any science currently claiming that sex reassignment is helpful cannot hold up for long.
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>>128900694

b-but we wuz kangs n shit nigga

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/
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>>128909511
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>>128903286
>>128903609

The term you two are digging for is 'reproductive barriers', of which there are two:
1) Pre-zygotic barriers
>barriers to reproduction that occur prior to fertilization, often either behavioral or anatomical in nature
2) Post-zygotic barriers
>barriers to reproduction that occur after fertilization, can be behavioral but are more commonly related to reduced fertility
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>>128910120
uhm sorry sweetie but race is only skin deep :)
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>>128909869
>If my cock was uncircumcised

poor americans
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>>128896938
It means evolution isn't real.
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>>128910445
interesting. So a Chihuahua wouldn't be able to reproduce with a huge dog breed because of a pre-zygotic barrier I suppose. I guess those may be overcome by artificial fertilization?
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>>128901748
There was no sahara at all relatively recently, well within these timescales. Maybe 6000 years ago the region was tropical, more like parts of central america and SE asia. What happens is the sahara cycles between tropical and desert biomes with the precession of the earth. When the axial precession is of a greater degree (i.e. the current 23.5 or whatever), the climate warms slightly and that vast continental expanse cannot sustain a tropical biome like the much more narrow regions of land around the world at similar latitudes. Northern africa is several thousand kilometers wide and vast stretches of land are susceptible to runaway extremes, unlike say mexico or the cambodian peninsula, which have more nearby coastline, and land near the ocean is more "regulated" and has less extremes of climate
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>>128909511
Speaking of the Civil Rights movement, Brown vs. The Board of Education ruled the way it did due to social science convincing the justices, particularly the famous doll tests where black students in segregated areas were found to assert positive tendencies to the white doll instead of the black doll. However, it is disputed as being cause of segregation as it was argued in the court. In an alternative interpretation of the Clark doll experiments, Robin Bernstein has recently argued that the children's rejection of the black dolls could be understood not as victimization or an expression of internalized racism but instead as resistance against violent play involving black dolls, which was a common practice when the Clarks conducted their tests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_and_Mamie_Clark#Doll_experiments
https://books.google.com/books?id=f_mgPpS-xXsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=racial+innocence&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NvABT_KdC4T20gGU8aTRAg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=racial%20innocence&f=false
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>>128910505
It's amazing to me how at one point people like this suddenly appeared on the scene. Where did they acquire these vastly different features from the 100k old ones?
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>>128909511
Dont put Alchemy in with that bullshit. Alchemy is the precurser to chemistry. Retired fields of science are not on the same field as unscientific hogwash.
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>>128897512
>>128895917
Gonna be honest, mythology suggests people came out of the Levant region.
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>>128895917
The complete vindication of human biodiversity is going to be very sweet indeed
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>>128895917
So how big is Greg Cochran's erection right now?
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>>128909511
The Spanish Inquisition was an anti-semitic movement in Spain. They were mainly against (((humanist))) philosophers. Yes, they were Jews.
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>>128906856
nice larp kek
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>>128911151
And how the fuck did they eat? Presumably once they started to get a taste for meat and move away from gnawing on shrubs all fucking day like an ape, they started to kill animals and eat them raw. Then, by pure accident they may have dropped raw meat onto hot coals and noticed the flavor explosion and ease of chewing. That one small tribe then began cooking all their meat, that custom spread and they gained intelligence and spread out, outcompeting hominids wherever they met them.
That's my best guess anyway.

So what this means is fire and cutting tools had to have been discovered before we learned how to cook:
Hominids that digested raw meat every day possessed human-like intelligence to harness fire and create tools with which to cook it (probably a spit or a kebab skewer) and tolls with which to cut it (blades of flint).

It's all amazing
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>>128910993
Bit more complicated than that, unfortunately. Since they are both domestic canines, they are compatible genetically, but yes there is the anatomical barrier present.

The most common pre-zygotic barrier to genetically compatible species of the same genus are behavioral. The prairie chickens and wood grouse are genetically compatible with each other, but rarely interbreed in the wild due to differences in behavior; 1) differing habitats, differing reproductive cycles, etc.

Example:
>http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=biosciornithology
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>>128896938
You know how retrievers make good seeing eye dog and chows don't? Same for people
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>>128911151
So, raw meat eating hominids must have been such for eons, slowly developing brains that meat eating can afford. But the paradox is they needed tools to carve up the animals in the first place, so where the fuck did they get the intelligence from to do that before eating meat and creating fire?!

At some point I gotta just go with aliens bruh
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>>128906668

because it's only one group of bones they found vs the thousands of other groups of bones in east africa so its still possible they'll find other bones like this one in that area or this finding is some sort of random outlier, although usually when that happens there's other things odd about the bones so it's probably accurate
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>>128897082
GIVE THIS MAN MORE (You)'s !!!
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>>128906620
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>>128903609
We've known dogs and wolves could breed for a very long time hans
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inb4
northern europeans are neaderthal and cromagnon hybrids(ie aryans) that intermixed with "homosapians" (which are probably what celts branched off from) to live on instead of going extinct
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>>128911151
People are forgetting that humans are old as fuck the oldest human cranium found is 400000 years old. thats just what we've found. approx 16000 generations(if a new generation is born every 25 years) for all we know blacks could just be a new group that evolved and polluted the earth with teir less evolved DNA(out of africa theory) and whites were here long before them.(neadrathals/ other sapiens)
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>>128907193
What is Brave New World?

Deep down, human beings love being flawed.
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>>128911897
this is super interesting, It seems like no one has actually tried to understand how all of this actually happened from an evolutionary point of view. and how fast does our dna adapt? How much do i contribute to the evolution of the species? How can we further evolve or species? We need to get people looking into the actual mechanism of evolution.
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>>128912646
indeed but those archaic skulls all look pretty different from the CroMagnon development, I agree with the Finn that such development is quite impressive
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>>128913054
Read the 10,000 year explosion
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>>128910868
>mfw CI-3 with a largely intact frenulum

At least I was circumcised at 18 mos or so due to adhesions and chronic UTI's by a physician who held off on doing it until it was clear they weren't going away.

I'm still restoring because I'm a borderline sex addict and I can't wait to explore new sensations.
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>>128909511

Chemistry wouldn't exist without Alchemy.

Though I see your point.
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>>128912197
>>128911897

They filled a niche eating animals that would have made it possible. animals that are long since extinct because they are particularity easy to be hunted by a being like that but perhaps not so much for others. We forget that there were countless evolutionary diversions in all kingdoms that are long since gone. some for obvious reasons. but even in modern times we have driven entire species to extinction. those types of creatures that would have been extremely easy would have lost dominance when human beings entered the environment and allowed us to thrive.
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>>128912390
what if all aliens look humanoid or even are the human(theory that life in the universe is all carbon based and would all grow into similar things with minor environmental adaptions), and there was a landing/crash onto earth and the aliens didnt want to die out so they bred with humans and this is what caused our brains to jump in size 2 milion years ago
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>>128910074
I can't wait to rule the stars with our chink brothers.

They may be a bunch of insectoid sociopaths, but my god can they be bro-tier sidekicks once they warm up to you.
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>>128909511
Honest question: Are we in the dark ages?
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>>128913819
No they don't, they are literal locusts and a nation of conmen
It's too bad because their civilization was based
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>>128897415
Well fucking obviously. If anyone saw an abo up close they would know those dipshits are subhuman.
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>>128913219
but those are only the skulls ((we've)) found what about the other species. and i guess your right we forget that were constantly adapting and changing, what if that skull was simply a unique adaption to that human
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>>128913054
Evolution is full of contradictions, it all boggles the mind when you really think critically about it. Lloyd Pye, while he put too much stock in the Star Child, seems to have good points about the fraud of mainstream evolution theory. It just doesn't make sense, for many more reasons as I pointed out, and scientists are strikingly comfortable with the prevailing hypotheses. I thought this talk was pretty mind blowing, not sure what /pol/ thinks about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
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I had a good article from a few years ago. It was a bunch of leftists scared about scientific racism becoming a thing
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>>128913696


like a rabbit that wasn't as fast, or a bird that couldent fly for long periods.
humanlike creatures have had quite some time to exterminate all the easy prey from the world that require atleast a little bit of humanlike intelligence to hunt.
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>>128904557
>>128904739
>tells people to use adblocks and actual sites
>disregarded
>called a shill.
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>>128913953
I'd argue that the period from 1970-onward will, socially/politically, come to be seen as such.

Not quite a dark age, but certainly similar to England under Cromwell or the Spanish Inquisition.
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>>128914269
What site?
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>>128914239
just for clarification i mean evolution as the mechanism of adaption not necessarily that we came from apes
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>>128913776
really makes you think
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So does this mean that we now have scientific proof that niggers gonna nig?
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>>128913953

Kinda.

Logic is taking a back seat to feels.

I'd say this is more the precursor to the dark age.
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>>128914465
Diversity is our weakness, too much DNA mixing/diluting the more evolved white DNA will be discovered to cause mental illness and emotional instability and low iq
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>>128914400
They can still fingerprint you, especially when you come from 4chan. Fingerprinting is almost unavoidable unless you're really autistic about it.
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>>128914576
especially because we can never actually know
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>>128913953
>are we in a scientific regression because of religion?
Yes. The religion is progressiveness.
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>>128913054
>We need to get people looking into the actual mechanism of evolution.
The mechanisms are selective pressures. The actual genetic changes are 100% random. The mechanism for evolution is external, not internal.
>How much do i contribute to the evolution of the species?
not much, lucky for you weve discovered a method of adaptation that is both quicker and more specific than evolution, called society, and you can completely transform that and meaningfully impact the course of human history.
>>128914239
Giraffes are a good example of seemingly absurd and impossible adaptations. They have biological structures that allow them to keep their neck from killing them, but why evolve the structures without the neck, an how evolve the neck without the structures?
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>>128904207
Fuck off, Guardian
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>>128915193
this
how do people deify the state? how cant hey not see the complete and under shit show that is government? its literally how everything bad in this world comes about.
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>>128913953
i suppose you could say that no matter what time period you are in 100 years ago were the dark ages.
except after rome fell and you were european.
the skills and devotion to infrastructure were lost for a little bit there. a few centuries where roman roads were like skeletons and hollow reminders of how things used to be.

I would say we were in a lull. still piggybacking off of atomic science. There hasn't been any major scientific breakthroughs in nearly 100 years.
It's not like you get an Einstein every 100 years even. (albeit einstein himself said that one of his contemporaries would have figured it out anyway just a little bit later.)
but sometimes you wait a few.

One would hope this is speed up by communications technology which in part is has but each step up the tech tree as it were requires more and more work. i dont think there will be a singular genius mind that pushes us forward anymore. It will be collaborative works from now on with more and more assistance from machine learning.
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>>128904207
newfag detected, back to r*ddit with you nigger
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>>128914269
Its been a thing what are they smoking?
>>128915193
Gonna have to disagree. Not that progressivism is a religion but that religion cause regression. The dark ages werent caused by Christianity, Christianity actually mitigated its effects. it was caused by the breakdown of social order and the resultant and blatant authoritarianism.

Healthy, intelligent and properly socialized humans dont require pervasive power structures to function in unison, but when that social superstructure decays, their social bonds do and authoritarian structures emerge, but by their very nature these are regressive models of socialization. The dark ages were the result of top down societies taking over Europe, and Europe progressed under the guidance of bottom up reforms.
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Not gonna deny whites are superior but why pol seems to suggest blacks are inferior?
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>>128907193
How about we keep our genetic engineering for ourselves and kick shitskins out?
We don't owe other races anything
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>>128915287
but does the fact that i am a aware of this mean i can make it not random? ie i can choose how i react to situations. or is it simply if survive the genes continue? would that mean there are a finite set of genes and they can be whittled away? so breeding and sterilization and death are the only mechanisms to control Evolution? (hitler might be right goys)
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>>128911897
>Be berry picker as fuck
>Stronger man comes up
>Brings fire
>Cooks meat
>Gibs me dats
>Meat is delicious and nutritious (because they threw shrubs and berries on it)
>No parasites
>No fucking parasites
>Get strong as fuck
>Make civilization with other strong mans
Literally no parasites.
The lack of parasites in meat allowed us to eat a ton of different foods, sating all our nutritional needs. We were stronger and we lived longer (because once again less parasites).
B12 is also incredibly good for the brain and nerves, B12 is found mostly in meat. New parasite free meat allowed us to eat more.
Since we lived longer we could teach our children more.
Everything goes back to cooking meat.

Vegans eternally BTFO.
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>>128915838
Seems like the most logical conclusion
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>>128915838
Something can't be superior unless something is inferior. So if you truly believe white people are superior then that means someone has to be inferior.
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>>128915833
lets get deep so if its in both of them what is the meta"religious/ideological" idea that causes regression?
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>>128916199
>>128916293
If you open a history book on africa (unlike most of pol) you realize they archieved the same most other races have done, at a comparable level to ancient semites.

yes, blacks had had libraries, medicine, trade, books, writing, and other shit.
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>>128915531
>no matter what time period you are in 100 years ago were the dark ages
Civilization does not "progress" linearly.
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>>128895917
oooooh holy shit

the Leftists were wrong, and genetic differences don't stop at the neck?

oooooooooh woooooooooooooah
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>>128916141
Well the thing is evolution is mediated by two things. Genetic mutation and selective pressures. Genetic mutation is essentially random. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift
But why bother with genetic evolution when you could focus on memetic evolution? Memes are superior to genes and we are living proof of this. In the span of less than 500,000 years weve gone from eating raw meat and banging rocks together to exploring the stars and straining to glimpse the very limits of reality. To put that in perspective, it took about 400,000 years for macaques to lose their tails and adapt to the cold of Japan. Which is an extraordinarily swift change in evolutionary terms.
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>>128915833
You do realise that the popes ruled with an iron fist over western europe during the dark ages? No-one was powerful enough to keep their power in check until Charlemagne, and it was the pope that caused the decline and downfall of the Empire of the Romans (Byzantium) due to the assertion that saint peter was the 'Rock' or leader of the Christian faith. It was only really with the rise of the HRE and the sacking of Rome in 1527 and the Renaissance that truly brought us out of the age of papal tyranny, and gave power back to the rulers of europe, allowing them to pursue scientific advancements and suchlike.

TL:DR; Inquisitions and Absolute unchallenged papal rule caused scientific regression.
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>>128896344
>he doesn't know Mandela effect
Just wait for the next shift
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>>128914529
I'm looking. They had pictures of hitler above the article.
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>>128917019
Why bother? to raise iq so we dont have as many problems memeing. low iq dindus ruin memes
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>>128915531

Except there have been massive scientific advances, they just have not been shared in the public sector.

Look into plasma double layer electrostatic propulsion, for example.

Completely makes combustion based flight obsolete.
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>>128916610
R A R E
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>>128916571
(((history books)))
Jokes aside, no they didn't achieve those at the same levels
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>>128916376
>>128917177

so too much sit down and shut up and not enough scientific exploration. so people slip into the monkey they used to be?
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>>128916571
you must be part african
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>>128907193
Designing a caste system will just make people in every caste want to destroy your civilization.
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>>128917642
look up the gondar castles.
I didn't mention they archieved at the same rates, I'm not an expert, but blacks archieved a level of civilization as well as other races.

everytime I post pre colonial african history you fags claim is islamic, and even if I post pre islamic african architecture, you fags keep moving the goal post.
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>>128917836
not really, I spend some time reading a bunch of books on african history, unlike pol.
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>>128905667
This is why the left is rushing Islam
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>>128918031
sorry hunter gatherers warlords and minor blessings from white people arent really that interesting.
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>not really
ok bud
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>>128907193
>engineer black males into being the perfect IQ 95 subservient muscle
Perfecting AI would achieve this same thing with much less overhead in the long run (e.g. you don't have to raise young, manage the workers, feed the workers, house the workers, don't make human error, etc etc)

>the 21st century Washingtons, Jeffersons, Madisons, Franklins, and such
Lmao. That's the point. What did those men do? They turned against their masters. AI will never turn against you (inb4 skynet). It's better to just delete any person or group who have any sort of capacity to pose a threat to the power structure in the very long term.

>if/when humanity ever gets off this rock
There is no "off" this rock.

Pic related. Our future. Megacities filled with crime, disease, and subhumans. Uncrossable chasm between super elite and the peasant poor. Watch the movie Elysium, somewhat accurate representation.
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>Fossils recovered from an old mine on a desolate mountain in Morocco
>“The face of the specimen we found is the face of someone you could meet on the tube in London,” Hublin said.
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>>128918396
>>128918415
not really, they have their own history, which was supressed during slavery.
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>>128918561
is carbon dating reliable?
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>>128895917
Now this.....is something big

Has this been getting spread through twitter and the likes yet?
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>>128918698
That's something I've always wondered myself
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>>128904207
>http://archive.is you see that nufag learn to use it
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>>128918535
>there is no off of this rock
Not so fast kiwi, I WILL make Gundam real
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>>128918698
They didn't use carbon dating for these fossils.
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>>128916610
what the fuck are you
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>>128919120
is there any other way to date things?
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>>128919158
He's got an Isle of Man flag, pretty based
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>>128917756
history is a constant cycle
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>>128914400
Using Adblocks allows them to work on countermeasures for adblocks. The archive works just fine, what's your problem with it?
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>>128919158
go away newfag
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>>128917177
they contributed but the real problem is the fall of the roman empire
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>>128919356
reminded me of the indian history cycles and how we're living in the age of decay.
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>>128916571
>all blacks are the same
Some non bantu North Africans are the only ones that really achieved anything. The majority of blacks these days are bantus that have a tendency to wipe out other groups.
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>>128919284
Yes, you sell their father a goat
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>>128919284
There are a lot of ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating#Modern_dating_methods
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>>128919619
ethiopians are pretty based.

blacks are pretty diverse, is an interesting topic.

some are even smarter than whites.

igbos (black jews) tend to be pretty smart.
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>>128919443
what is a newfag xD ?
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>>128917177
Nah, I'd have to disagree.
I'm a Catholic so perhaps there is some bias on my part in favor of the Church.

That said, I believe the real cause of regression was caused by the rise of various heresies. Regardless of what your thoughts are on them, whether they were right or wrong, they led to different ways of life for their followers that differeda d was even hostile to the prexsisting society which formed under Catholicism

T;ldr: infighting causes regression
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The scientist who lost funding was Bruce Lahn at the University of Chicago. And his discovery was Haplogroup D for ASPM and Microcephalin
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>>128918561
Lol.
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>>128918685
top kek. mud huts and wars
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>>128919514
I think history is pretty cyclical desu
>>128919716
What's the most accurate dating in your opinion?
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>>128920066
Can you explain what that means to a suburban retard who voted for Trump like me?
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>>128911212
That's where civilization began. Doesn't means anything
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>>128895917
>this is what atheists believe
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>>128911212
Well it makes sense that civilization, or centralized city states, would arise out of an adverse environment such as the Levant first
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>>128920226
I have no idea but I doubt it is a matter of opinion.
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>>128896938
It means we came from the Mediterranean-Persian Gulf region just like the Bible says.
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>>128897082
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Glorious information.

This needs to be in textbooks as quickly as possible.
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>>128921081
Not so fast Goy, don't forget who owns the printing houses
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>>128920328
racism is back in style
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>>128920481
also did the earth look different when humans started out?
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>>128909869
>I like to think that we'll take care of the JQ before that all would happen, though.
This is all linked. Who do you think pushed Out of Africa theory and egalitarianism and anti racism in the first place?
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>>128910120
My thoughts exactly, this just confirms that niggers are an archaic and unevolved (compared to European and Asian humans) form of Homo sapiens.
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>>128920481
I'd say Mythology is prior to Civilization, i.e. agriculture.
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>>128921499
I'm sure there are relatively minor changes caused by erosion/weathering, long drought periods, etc.
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>>128903192
this battlestar galactica was actually a documentary
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>>128915838
There is no superior and inferior in evolution, just better adapted species.
Niggers are the best at living in mud huts in savana, we're the best at living in civilization.
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>>128916571
Africans were actually kangz yes, but the majority of Africa's development came from foreign occupancy. Greeks built the libraries in Africa. But that's besides my point, you said that you don't deny white people are superior which means you think someone is inferior
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>>128911212
sub-saharan people are GARBAGE. People that migrated all the way into fucking Siberia than into America THEN to south America still managed to create great civilizations, compleatly isolated for something like 10000 years and yet they were still way ahead of the african shit that had contact with europe and the middle east
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>>128916376
Gnosticism. Gnostic predispositions create prejudice and preclude the unknown, thus discouraging inquisition, innovation and progress. Full certainty in the rectitude of your moral and social systems creates violence against opposition and suppression. Unwavering statism is a result of the same.
>>128917177
>You do realise that the popes ruled with an iron fist over western europe during the dark ages?
Literally a myth. The notion that the Pope held any direct physical authority over the fiefdoms of the other kingdoms is blatantly false. The state regularly asserted its authority over the church. they worked in conjunction, but the Church was rarely supreme. The religious class were scholars, clerics and bankrollers.
>No-one was powerful enough to keep their power in check until Charlemagne
You mean the first major ruler of the middle ages? Its also hilarious to me that you mention the Inquisition, which happened because of secular authority and in spite of the Church, not because of it. The Inquisition was pepretrated by catholics but was a creature of entirely spanish, not catholic origins and was largely political in nature. In fact, the strictly religious institutions of the church, the patronage, the monasteries and tutors, the religious knights, were the structures that bound Europe together and created progress. Copernicus was a friend of the church, the Crusades were a good thing. the Knights Templar and Hospitallers crossed national boundries creating secure systems of money and humanitarian care. The church patronised the arts, religious scholars codified philosophical, historical and religious works and taught literacy. The bible is the reason we got mass literacy. The very tenets of christianity are what led us from the dark ages. The darkness was caused by the warring of fiefdoms among christians, and of the authoritarian nature of government, not the church.
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>>128921723
>Mythology=agriculture
What?
Anyway, I think it makes sense that such practices would develop in the adverse environment of the levant First, where the people would have to discover new techniques out of necessity
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>>128918685
You do understand that the ancient African empires were slave empires right? You do understand that slavery still exists today in Africa and the middle east right? You do understand that Africa and the middle east have been home to the largest slave trading markets in human history right? Where do you think Europeans bought all their slaves from?
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It was always likely. The fact that African groups are so distantly related to each other was evidence. For instance, West Nigerians are more distantly related to East Nigerians than, say, a Scotsman is to a Japanese (who are not closely related whatsoever!)
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>>128921986
You're forgetting about Australian Abos
THEY are the worst
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>>128895917
This has been known for the last century. It has only been recently that the left has tried to dispute evolution.
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>>128900081
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I need to try and redpill some lefty engineering/science friends.

Can someone post links to the other recent findings/articles that BTFO the out-of-Africa theory? I know there was the jaw (?) bone recently, but was there something else?
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>>128914948
>Diversity is our weakness

Agreed, but I'd like to think that we'll overcome it.
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>>128922047

Wrong. Youre fuckig retarded. Even charlemagne, the greatest king of western europe and later crowned emperor of the roman empire (8th century) was forced to do concessions in wealth land and power to the pope of his Lombard conquests. Noob history niggers are the worst and you should kill yourself.
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>>128911897
Scavenging after a fire sounds more likely if you ask me.
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>>128922535
Day one day all of humanity is homogenized into one race, now ALL of humanity is suceptible to the same diseases
If another Plague comes about, humanity is schlonged
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>>128921723
Mythology is beyond history. It speaks to a part of us that exists atemporally. The earliest myths straddle the realm between what wer are and what we were, and later myths follow that pattern. From Gilgamesh and Enkidu to Christ and the Catholic Saints who wandered into the wilderness and caves and confronted the loneliness and the savage demons.
>>128920870
this desu
>>128921904
also this. The only organisms that qualify as inferior are pandas
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>>128916097
That's also an option.

But I think that no matter what date comes out, we'll be hesitant to adopt hard eugenics against the blacks, though a one/no child policy may well happen.

I'm just proposing a worst-case scenario where we can still advance and turn human biodiversity into a boon for our society.
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>>128898419
So, Africans have been getting bleached for thousands of years and they're still shit.
Just imagine the ultraniggers that existed there before.
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>>128922360
looking at them they somehow look worse than africans i dont even know how that is possible
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>>128916188
Unironically this.

We're nothing but apex carnivores, and we've gotten where we are as a species entirely on the back of that.
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>>128922745
There's literally no way that mythology existed before humans, because mythology and religion were created by humans.
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>>128922817
>how is that even possible
Inbreeding, plain and simple
When the British came they recorded countless cases of Abos raping their own family members
Have you heard of "the dream time"?
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>>128922885
We aren't carnivores, we're omnivores
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>>128922587
Charlemagne made the pope crown him emperor. It was common for kings to force the pope to ascent to things they wanted. In actuality, there were cycles of papal and secular strength. When the Pope was strong, so was Europe, and things ran smoothly. When the Kings were strong, Europe was fractured.
>Dutch Education
I dont even like Catholics I think theyre heretical and misguided but youre denying basic historical facts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy
>when youre so strong that you literally have to relocate in exchange for payment or youll be subjugated
>tfw too strong to control your own actions and policies
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>>128896938
it means, that there is a god
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>>128906620
Search your heart anon. You know it to be true.
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>>128917177
T. Achmed

Your graph is shit. There was still a lot of progress during those times. The "dark age" is just a meme.
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>>128895917
Holy shit, the implications this brings forward is fucking spicy guys, can you imagine the bounds in science we can make with this? All those mysteries about all the different ethnic and racial groups can finally be answered, this is a topic that interests me a lot.
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>>128922047
So the belief in a subjective reality leads to regression. interesting.
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>>128922901
Youre retarded. Did you even read both posts? He said mythology is about humans prior to civilization. I said no. Youre a fucking moron.
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>>128922962
cmon inbreeding is not that devastating, i mean look at the british...nvm i take that back
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>>128895917
>only now realizing how evolution works because it has a dozen driving forces.
Intelligence or grain capacity doesn't start within the brain, it starts with the environment that the entity is directly situated in.
Brain evolution happens because it reacts to changes to the physical world (outside of the 'braincase'.
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>>128922724
kek schlonged havent heard that in a while
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>>128917177
>Christian dark ages

More like ages of muslim conquests
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>>128923251
Kek
No seriously though, there's more inbreeding Africa than Europe or the Mid East, but Abos take it to another level.
They've been presumably inbreeding for the tens of thousands of years they were isolated before the Brits came
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>>128923241
No I just read your comment and threw in my two cents. Mythology is definitely pagan creationist theories so he's wrong.
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Hypothesis: the first humans did not have black skin.

It is commonly known that the first humans was black skinned african looking people. However, when you consider the skin color of apes, which is white/light, then it becomes less likely. As humans evolved from apes, we slowly lost our body hair, slowly revealing the white/light skin underneath our ape-fur. We lost our body hair after we evolved into homo-sapiens. When we lost our ape-like fur, it created a new problem, protecting our skin from the rays of the sun, since our body hair no longer protected it. Black skin evolved as a way to protect our skin from the rays of the sun. So black skin evolved after we already was human/homo-sapiens as a way to protect from the sun. This is the only logical chain of events.

Conclusion: the first humans was light skinned.
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>>128923235
Yes. As a matter of fact the One God of the israelites is an inherent catalyst to science and progress. The belief in an architect necessitates a belief in a higher, transcendent and objective truth. People who believe in capricious spirits and jealous and petty gods could never even conceive of science. The world would not be a constant, governed by invariably true laws. European Christianity is Aristotlean and ideal, and its the ideal that creates progress.
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>>128922811
literal apes
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>>128897082
Kek
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>>128895917
WE?
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>>128918685
can you provide some information?
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>>128923731
WUZ NEVER NIGGERS
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>>128923550
Pictured is a naked chimpanzee, showing its light/white skin color.
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>>128906917
The brain evolved after Homo Sapiens did, meaning different races probably have different brain designs.
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>>128922724
False.
There have been recorded cases of isolated populations that do not develop certain diseases.
It's the basics of genetic drift.
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>>128902066
>oldest disease?
Yes they have the worst plague ever known, niggers
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So this is essentially proving every single tenant of the alt-right. Incredible
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>>128923550
>>128923864
i remember seeing that shaved chimp a long time ago and thinking, well dam,
even monkies are whiter than niggers
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>>128923550
True, bald apes are a pale grayish-brown, which is unlike any skin color I know of. It's closest, I'd say, to certain southern Italians.
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>>128916571
This is why we use the technical shorthand "nigger" in precise discussions on /pol. Niggers = subsaharan africans, who never did shit.
"Africans" is too broad leading to stupid statements like yours.
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>>128923917
Then explain why sickle cell only affect niggers and mud bloods, or why blacks have the worst record of heart disease while orientals have the best?
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>>128922047
The crusades were a 'good' thing, but it was the catholic church who levied a tax from its parish, even if they were starving(the Irish were even betrayed by the pope because the local churches gave church tax to the poorest during a famine).
The reason we got mass literacy was because of the printing press, and PROTESTANTS were the first to start church schools;
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/sunday/hist1.htm

The pope held much authority over the fiefdoms. Why do you think excommunications were a thing? sure, some rulers had sway in the vatican, but for many hundreds of years the pope held much sway over western europe.

Be glad we live in a world where the catholic church's power was curbed, we would belittle better than glorified a middle eastern shithole otherwise, with religion being the centre of our lives, much as it is in south american countries.
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>>128924023
Chimps aren't monkeys, they're apes.
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>>128923596
hmmm so god is just humans embodiment of truth. shit dood and satan is the subjective wow i jst got mind fucked from that everything makes sense now ive figured out the universe
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>>128923596
So i guess the Great library of Alexandria was a fucking storehouse for romantic fiction then??
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>>128923952
I speak the saddest words of either tongue or pen, /pol/ was right again
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>>128923550
When human evolution 'started', it was like an ape overload or different creatures.
Hence the term COMMON ancestors. Doesn't matter if we had black, purple, white, grey, all those apes evolved at the same time, just like all the primates are still around and we 'humans' are still classified taxonomically as apes.
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>>128922901
You have it backwards.
Listen to Jordan Peterson.
Humans were created by mythology.
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>>128924308
and niggers are africans , cmon man fuck off with that shit. How many times have you heard that i know i have atleast 100000000 times
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>>128923550
I never thought of that, but it should've been bloody obvious. Good point.
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>>128924360
You think you're mind fucked now? Read some theology nigga
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>>128895917
Wasn't /pol/ just celebrating the idea that human beings actually came from Europe like a week ago? Already debunked, kek
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>>128895917
take the ultimate red pill
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves
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>>128923917
that just means the isolated populations dna was diverse enough not to get fucked, not that inbred degenerates wouldnt get wiped out by illness
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>>128924442
>So i guess the Great library of Alexandria was a fucking storehouse for romantic fiction then??
>tfw the Library of Alexander was just an ancient yaoi fanfic repository
>Every other story was about Gilgamesh fucking Enkidu
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>>128923930
they are* the worst disease ever
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>>128910362
>HOL UP HOL UP
>smacks lips
>SO YOU BE SAYIN'
>grabs crotch
>WE WUZ THE FIRST HUMINZ 'N' SHIET
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>>128922134
No, civilization starts with agriculture. Myths precede that.
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>>128924251
You don't know what isolated populations mean do you?

For example, if a population of say Russian in the northern parts right now suffer famine, and starvation, and a few of the pregnant women give birth while that was happening, the chances of those offspring to develop diseases like diabetes, obesity, and unstable ketone levels will be extremely high. Now if those kin live to mate and pass on their poor mutated genetics, that population of people will be prone to such diseases.

What you explained to me IS genetic drift. Diseases that were only seen in those populations at one time, and most likely have started developing in others because of human globalization.
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>>128924759
>anime was a product of the ancient world
>we are only rediscovering it now
What if...it led to the down fall of ancient civilization?
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>>128923596
>People who believe in capricious spirits and jealous and petty gods could never even conceive of science.
>"God" literally says he is a jealous god in Genesis

I get your point, but it wasn't the hebrew god.
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>>128903192
>>128921832
this theory makes sense to me also if you look at some of the cave man and see it as the planet being seeded as test runs if we could live here it makes sense also i suppose the hole humans fucked and killed alot of things in our past would explain for some of those genetics bleeding into ours there is a whole lot of this evolution part im not buying into we all know there is alot of stuff the unwashed masses are not told about in regards to our origins they only tell us what they want to in so far as to shape a certain narrative........
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>>128924759
I must say, that guy sounds like a fanatic Mormon, or a Christian who has dabbled in christian philosophical studies, and not actual physical history.
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>>128896938
>1 it proves humanity in some form has been here for much longer than we think
>2 and that there are different subspecies of humans that have made up the current ethnic groups. i.e we're not all equal.
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Literal proof that niggers have subhuman like intelligence.
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>>128924570
have you ever looked in to mormonism? i was raised mormon(not mormon anymore) and it has this thing called the "plan of salvation/happiness" its pretty interesting. if you like that kind of stuff.
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>>128924608
Yeah I didn't get why people were so excited about that...
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>>128922047
Exactly. I challenge anyone to find another case in which a fallen empire is not conquered, and then recovered. The only reason we know anything about the Romans and Greeks and Egyptians is because of the Catholic Church. Everything we now know would have been lost had any system been in place during the dark ages. Seriously, the very fact that we can recognize that period as the dark ages comes from the fact that we managed to maintain some semblance of a unified cultural identity with collapsed and forgotten civilizations. Most cultures do not maintain the memory of the people they conquer. They are absorbed in toto. By all rights, the Romans should have been forgotten to history, but priests and monks preserved what knowledge they could, given the considerable technological limits of the time. And, amazingly, it is these same monks and priests, and people taught by them, who created the technological advancements to not only recover lost information but spread all this knowledge across society wider than any other culture. The Catholic Church saved the world form darkness, and it has only been heresies of her fundamental teachings that have created all the problems we see today. IF the church had the iron fist it is often portrayed as having, these ideas never would have seen the light of day. But here we are--the church still stands, but our shared reality is falling apart. The darkness is returning.
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>>128924608
>>128925524
Just as long as we didnt descend from knee grows
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>>128924550
Then use the right wording, faggot.
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>>128925038
>tfw cave paintings were just early hentai doujinshi
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>>128925637
We still did.
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>>128917582
not even rare
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>>128925526
If this is true, the Catholic Church is the main reason why the West diverged from other cultures.

Also, you have the Chinese who pretty much did shit similar to ours. They were also very advanced, and it is said that the industrial revolution would start independently there if you gave it more 100-200 years tops
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>>128925526
Are you retarded? the Byzantines kept 1/2 of the roman empire(because they WERE the Roman empire ofc), and lasted until 1453AD, by that time the Renaissance was happening and the printing press was not far off. The case may be made that monks transcribed the documents of the western roman empire, but that was all they could do with their time and it was a personal hobby and not a divine command. I.e. they had nothing better to do, and they felt honour bound to do it.
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>>128925210
i think hes talk more about the idea of god not necessarily the reality of god.
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>>128915833
>it was caused by the breakdown of social order and the resultant and blatant authoritarianism.
Caused by the Jews and leading them to opening the doors and bringing in outside barbarians to topple the extant power structure. It's no coincidence that the dark ages ending and the Renaissance beginning came AFTER the Europeans started kicking out Jews and Muslims.
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>>128926067
Catholic Church undoubtedly played a major role in the way western civilization was formed
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>>128924254
>the church wasnt perfect therefor it was responsible for the political fracturing and oppressive social situation.
Who do you think executed more people for "heresy" and "blasphemy", the church, or secular authorities? It was St Thomas who laid down the argument that legal punishment for sins was illogical and illegitimate to begin with.
>The reason we got mass literacy was because of the printing press
... Which was used to print and spread the Bible.
>PROTESTANTS were the first to start church schools
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Amun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbas_the_Sanctified
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_of_Nursia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parens_scientiarum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monastic_school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Paris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge
Youre a fucking retard
>The pope held much authority over the fiefdoms. Why do you think excommunications were a thing?
Because the subjects were incredibly religious to the point of wild superstition?
>but for many hundreds of years the pope held much sway over western europe.
>influence is sovereignty
Nope. Because for the ENTIRETY of the middle ages, the Vatican was at the mercy of foreign powers.
>>128924360
Of the ideal. For the Greeks and their humanism this was extreme emotion and physical perfection, for other pagans and their abstraction the gods were aspects, often reflected in physical embodiment of phenomena or animals, for the philosophical, stoic and ascetic Europeans this was truth and justice.
>>128924442
The Church of Alexandria was burned down by tribal heathens. Tribes are notorious for top down structure. The Library was destroyed for the final time by Muslims though.
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>>128926067
The greeks almost started the industrial revolution THOUSANDS of years ago, your point is nigh invalid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile
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>>128896938
means we wuzzin kangs?
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>>128925812
my sides
>the more obscure paints are just cum stains
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>>128913953
Well the last time I can think of that the term Cuck was so popular was literally right as Rome divided
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>>128926415
>professor, what does this one mean?
>oh, that's just a semen stain
>a-a semen stain?
>the cause of which is probably that ahegao drawn right beside it
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>>128926299
so diversity victimhood and edgyness are ((our)) gods now?
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>>128897974
JUST
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Ahahaha
Time to put niggers back in cages, they are fucking done for
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>>128925040
The God of Genesis is the God of the Torah. The Christian God is Jehova, who is Yahweh, but Yahweh is both the one true and righteous god, and the Israeli war god, who was originally of a pantheon. Its a progression and synthesis, not a gensis of a unique creator god. You have to take that into account.
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>>128926324
>The industrial revolution is the steam engine
nice meme
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>>128926590
Remember also that while the East had more problems and more enemies the West always falls first because you're weak.
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>>128925812
The first instance of Japanese tentacle porn dates back to the 1800's
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>>128926716
>man cums on the mona lisa because all art is just porn
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>>128927188
If you wouldn't cum on the Mona Lisa's forehead, you're not a real man
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>>128927188
>ancient Greek boys used to jack off to statues of Athena Artemis and Aphrodite
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>>128926324
This is one of the most important things lost with the Great Library.
>>128926815
Victimhood and edginess are tools. The underlying ethos is postmodernism, the rejection of objective truth, of reason, of logic, of transcendent reality. Its not meaningfully a novel ideal or metaphysics in any real sense, its more a conscious rejection of the form of our old ideal. Literally intellectual opposite day till the old structures go away.
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>>128911151

I think this cro-magnon appearance was the result of two fairly different groups of humans mixing, a very gracile group and a hardened group with sharp, heavy features, like the red deer cave people's.
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>>128927054
>What is steam powered machinery?
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>>128927337
it would be an honor to go down in history as the guy who busted a nut on the mona lisa
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>>128927434
When I was a young kid I did the same thing.
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>>128917177
the "dark ages" as you probably imagine them didn't really exist, it was a term that was created after to describe the vacuum following the collapse of the western roman empire. in reality many of the foundations of modern europe were forged in this important era. btw there wasn't just one renaissance.
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>>128927434
Pretty sure they jacked off to the boys
>adonis and apollo not artemis and aphrodite
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>>128899442
Where were you when Poo in Loos saved humanity?
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>>128913219
>>128927476

Case in point, that skull looks just like a stereotypical human skull mixed with heavy set features, not Neanderthal, more likely something like those red deer cave people.
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>>128924701
Not the spammer we want, but the spammer we need.
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