Who was better

Himmler

>>128881335

Mussolini was a genius and a narcissist, Hitler was bed-wetter and a narcissist.

>>128881335

Good 'ol Benny the Moose.

>>128881335
Those fags have nothing on Putin

>>128881751
fpbp

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Hitler obviously. Took Moosealini linguini for the ultimate ride. One hell of an ending though.

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>>128881335
Neither

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>>128881335
Vargas

>Destroyed the communists agitations sent from Moscow
>Destroyed the communists agitations by jews
>Avoided a fascist revolution
>Avoided being invaded by America
>Got military hardware by Germany until the very last second america allowed him to keep his neutrality stance
>Survived the war with his power intact
>Kept Brazil society out of the war

>>128881335

Mussolini, Hitler was an autist.

>>128881975
Putin is like Mussolini now. Invaded shithole, got embargoes, looking for ally to get away with it.

>>128881810
>genius
>cant seal off the mediterranean at sea
>cant handle even yugoslavia on land

hitler would have been better off just opening another front with italy instead of having them fuck everything up from inside

Mussolini got nothing done and didn't even have ultimate power in Italy.
He started a lot of retarded wars that Hitler had to bail him out of and it costed Germany greatly, possibly even the war as Germany could've started the Soviet offensive a month earlier without Italy's wars.

Ideologically, aesthetically, and politically, Hitler is better.

I doubt people saying they like Mussolini better know much about this stuff.

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>>128881335
>Italy
>starts a ww2 related thread

my day is now complete.

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>>128881335
Mussolini was a delusional, arrogant buffoon. He thought he was the new Julius Caesar but got BTFO by Greece when he mindlessly chose to attack them.

Honestly, Germany would have won the war if it weren't for Shitaly's constant fuckups.

Hitler was a genius and the greatest leader ever.

>>128882811
t. stormfront

>>128882776
Yea we sucked total dick in ww2

>>128882607
I admire Mussolini more as a person than a politcian; and he paid for his wrong actions, hence why he was able to get into Heaven after many years of Purgatory.

>>128882898
Look up Italy's military history during WW2. Germany had to save them time after time, for shit ITALY themselves started. Hitler even rescued Mussolini from capture. But for what purpose? Germany gained nothing from helping Shitaly.

>>128883181
Ye, it's totally not like Hitler forced Mussolini to join his war.

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In terms of success:

Franco >>> all. He was still in command in the fucking 70s and Spain did incredibly well under his rule.

In terms of who was the most fucking based:

Mosley = Hitler = Codrenau > Franco > Mussolini

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>>128882982
Shouldn't have switched sides lad.

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This guy was the smarter of them, he died by natural causes in a hospital at the age of 82 years old.

>>128883544
More people need to learn about this guy and his economic, national and social ideas. He really was an exceptional man and one of the best things to happen to Spain in the last century. He also kept close ties with Spanish south American countries, which are now being neglected and are no longer as friendly with Spain.

>>128883535
I know...

>>128883336
Mussolini chose to ally with Germany after Britain estranged Italy when Italy took colonies in Ethiopia.

Mussolini was very, very interested in fighting wars, just not against the Western powers.
That's why he went around invading countries when France was beaten and the UK seemed beaten.

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>>128883544
>be Spanish
>ww2 breaks out
>decide to have a "civil war" so you dont have to get involved

typical Spaniards.

>>128883544
He didn't leave a system that could survive his death.
How'd that be changed?

>Italian generals

at least they lost less men than greece

>>128884077
Yeah and see what just a small spanish division did (250th division): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krasny_Bor

>>128884093
He based the entire system around his person too much and not about a political party, thats why his "legacy" was weak

Hitler made Benito his cucked bitch.

>>128883181
>>128884006
Past a certain point, Germany effectively annexed Italy in all but name. Generals of the Wehrmacht and even high up NSDAP were fed up with Mussolini and the Italian military's incometance, so they just started telling them what to do and when.

Hitler unironically should have annexed Italy before WW2. The Iron Pact, while sounding cool, was a failure.

>>128881335
One controlled Europe. The other couldn't control his own country and was hung up by his people.

>>128884423
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krasny_Bor

Im not doubting your fighting prowess just your motivation to actually fight

Also, i find it interesting that Franco's orders were for Spanish forces to only fight the Ruskies on the eastern front and not to confront British/American/French forces.

Mosley

>>128884077
Are you saying Spain should've fought for no reason?
Classic anglo, keep giving your life for the jews.

Come on Benito was the black hole of the axis. Useless overestimated piece of shit. A true embarrasment for the fascism power

>>128885113
Should've let Germany though to Gibraltar.
Could've had a big impact.

The blue division did good work either way.

>>128884077
>>>128883544
>>be Spanish
>>ww2 breaks out
>>decide to have a "civil war" so you dont have to get involved
>typical Spaniards.
You are fake news:
Spanish Civil War: 17/07/36-01/04/39
WWII: 01/09/39-01/09/1945

And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Division

>>128884986
The Blue Division had a special pact for Hitler, they would only fight communism and nothing else.
During these times, Franco made Spain a non-beligerent country, basically part of the Axis but not officially fighting.

>>128882260
>Brazil
>Society

try again monkey

>>128884077
You better check dates.

>>128885269
I think this was a mistake from his part tbqh, Franco thought of Hitler as Napoleon so he feared the same would happen again in Spain.

>>128885113
see>>128884986

You did fight though, you were just too cowardly to fight a worthy adversary, basically just skeet shooting the Russian hordes for shits and giggles.

>>128881335
Italy during ww2 was an embarassment. The only country they successfully invaded was Albania

>>128884006
I think I recognize you from before. You're the based Dutch poster.

>>128882260
>>Avoided a fascist revolutio
thats pretty shitty tbqh

>>128885257
This. Supposed to be a joke OP?

>>128885257
Remember, he was DUCE for 18 years before WWII. How about you read on italy under facism then come back here. Stop fueling a meme

>>128883544
to bad he betrayed the falange

>>128885542
Here's a detail.
Spain's army before Civil War: 1M soldiers
Spain's army after Civil War: 250k soldiers

>>128881335
mussolini

pacifist civic fascist master race

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Spaghettis should just do what they're good at: jewing, and keep the fighting for the nords

>>128883047
>hence why he was able to get into Heaven after many years of Purgatory.
lol. How do you know this?

Hitler was once in a century kinda remarkable. Mussollini was, not.

>>128885619
I've at least seen two other Dutch posters that are generally in line with what I think, but it could be you've seen me before.

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>>128885907
>pacifist civic fascist

>>128885560
Ethiopia as well, dont under estimate the quality of the italian fighting man. You have to blame italys leadership, some of the oldest generals and leaders in europe at the time. They were from a different time, hadnt updated methods and tactics.

The italian navy also gave the royal navy hell in the med

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Obviously Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjED8pWknRA

>>128881335
Stalin

>>128885648
I didint really think about it war-wise but mostly leadership.

>>128885560
They also managed to lose a war to an African country.
>>128885899
so you had a small army, why then go up against the Russians with their millions upon millions of men?

You wanted to join in without risking anything.

>>128886246
underrated

The duce was just LARPING as the new ceasar
He did good but a total looser and incompetent compared to hitler
And he was bitching about that hitler is tooooo extreme hahaha what a fucking moron

>>128885729
Yeah! Everything was smooth till the war arrived. The he lost all the land hitler took for him (greece) and made the germans pospone Barbarosa for almost a year... Why am i still arguing about this?

>>128885824
He couldnt be perfect

>>128881335
Hitler was white.

>>128886544
I hate communism and I support national socialism but Stalin won and died in his bed, Hitler and Mussolini lost. Hitler destroyed Germany by overreaching. Less territory, fewer people, devastated by war split apart into multiple puppet states.

If you look at the hard facts Stalin was a better ruler.

Stalin is

>>128886924
Or he simply ruled a more strategically favourable nation

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>>128884885
>communist partisans
>"""""people"""""
Mussolini at least has a tomb that Italians can pay their respects to.

>>128886595
Wasnt an argument, just a discussion, Italy constantly pleaded to postpone the war until at least 1942. They werent ready. However, they fucked up when they got big heads and declared war after the fall of france

>>128887022
Who cares? All that matters is that he was a winner.

Hitler was a loser. Mussolini was a loser.

>>128887367
then you're not talking about quality of a man

>>128886434
It was a volunteer army, 50 000 volunteered. It was just to maintain good relations with the Axis. Basically, politics, nothing more, nothing less.

>>128886914
We're not black just tanned.

>>128888092
meh, what do you suppose would have happened if Germany won?

>>128888564
Spain in-debt to hell.

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>>128889027
nothing new then.

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>>128883544
sadly he was friends with this bitch, apparently he disliked Peron etc, My guess is he was banging her

>>128888189
give it time

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>>128889425
you would know

>>128889425
By that logic germans are blacks too...

>>128881335
>be luigi
>make fascism thread
>get bullied

I'm sorry Luigi

>>128891730
Dont really care about it, i hate moosey myself.

>>128881335
Neither.

Both were pawns for the jesuit cause.

>>128891045
>By that logic germans are blacks too...
give it time

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>>128881335
You mongrel don t even know what you are thinking about

The best human being ever was, by far, D' Annunzio

>Looks like pepe the frog

>Ugly and bald, he fucked like a thousand women
>Pretended to kill himself at 17 only to sell more stuff
> Became decadentist poet
>Realized that thinking is for fags and became the anti intellectual
>Founded the first Frogmen corp in history (Decima Mas)
>Fought in the first world war doing some of the most craziest suicide missions
>Won the war
>Italy, being fagland, was not able to get enough balcans
> D annunzio called 1,000 of his own private loyalist (yeah this nigger had his personal army) and conquered single handed the city of Fiume, founding his own state
>got bored and retired
>Too cool and busy to become dictator of Italy
>died

>>128881335
Hitler, non-racial fascism is retarded.

>>128885907
>our program is to smash the heads of the socialists
>we do not argue with those who disagree with us, we destroy them
>war is to men what motherhood is to women
>>>>>>>>>>>pacifist

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>>128887022
Fascists care about their countries. Stalin give a shit about his people and only cared about win, so yes, he was better ruler on terms of "winning" but not in terms of get the best for his homeland.

>>128893457
Europe is black too?

>>128882776
again this fake shit

>>128883181
>neautral cowards in both WWs
>shittalks about Italy
You were even helping niggers down in lybia and we dropped mustard gas on your shitty red cross hospitals

mussolini was better, should never have entered ww2. could have let hitler lose, held on to colonies in libya, discovered oil in 1950's = italy becomes global superpower

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>>128899165
how is it fake?

>>128893751
this,he was the real madman
also motti dannunziani

>>128882518
>He consider only his last 4 years of government during the wars and not the other 18 years where he was plauded and named ''the greatest statist alive'' even by Woodrow Wilson and Churchill

>>128882607
He ruled well 18 years before the war started and was internationally pleased.

Bu hey, ''muh the war''. Yeah we were unprepared and untrained, because of the embargo after 1936,

>>128891730
Vittorio Veneto still burns, eh?

>>128903543
He wasn't being aggressive, no need to make fun of him
Now say you're sorry, young man.

>>128886434
But... they won the war in Ethiopia???

If you're talking about the FIRST Abyssinian war, they lost because all of the other great powers didn't want Italy to have Ethiopia

>>128893751
This guy was the real italian GOAT

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>>128884346
they didnt

>>128881751
He was a fucking traitor