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US suspects Russian hackers planted fake news behind Qatar crisis

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Is this real life? Is this timeline hacked?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html
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>>128857613
Archive

>http://edition cnn com/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html
https://archive.is/rH420
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russia russia russia russia. what did they russia by this?
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It turns out everyone tried to give Amy Schumers comedy special 5 stars but Russians hacked it down to 1
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>>128857613
who cares what cnn says
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What the fuck is going on
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>>128857613
Slav hacking is the best in the world. They use babushkas to get enemy passwords
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https://youtu.be/BMdmyisIFNo

37:37
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>>128857613
Can I get a quickrundown on what the fuck is this Qatar crisis everyone seems to be talking about?
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>>128858012
38:47
On spying
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>>128858166
Smokescreen flavor of the week made to cover up more consequential issues.
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>>128857613
Holy fuck. I just realised that "russian hackers" is the normie version of "the jews".
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Why are they so desperate to defend qatar?
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This makes no sense. If they planted fake news with the state news agency, wouldn't the news agency have noticed, removed the report and issued a counterstatement?
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>>128858902
O M G! Are russian hackers actually supertalented jewish zionist hacker group that rules all of US?
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>>128857625
I love you :3
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Just in Russia has hacked their way into heaven [Reports CNN]
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>>128857625
Thank you.
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Join to discuss the current state of events in Qatar

https://discordapp.com/invite/S4KJa
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>>128857730
Great reflexes, KGB is happy about your free shilling.
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>>128859692
>only reading PI news
They did, their website was offline for several hours, though.
And nobody was actually interested in their corrected version as they all went full-blown instaretard.
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>>128857613
> US still doesn't realize that as soon as they open their mouth about russian hackers, the whole world knows it was actually the americans

can you fuck off with your literal jew propaganda already?
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>>128858902
(((russian hackers))) did 9/11
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>>128857613
CNN is ISIS
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>>128859819
>responding to a bot script
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The guy on the panel at the end calls them out on their (((sources))) for this story they are speculating on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVm-rRCX5M8
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>>128857613
they found out there was a complication with the saudis plan to attack qatar so as to discourage any one from being to friendly with iran.

it seems that the united states would be required to defend qatar. they have a similar but not identical situation as japan where the united states is legally required to defend them in the event of a attack. i think it was when they put the american base there they made the agreement

the saudis dont want to back down so to save face they blame russia
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>>128858902
Lets force this idea that its a codeword for it so they can't fucking using it anymore because its OY VEY ANTISEMITIC
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>>128860707
Baghdadi is CIA then.
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>>128860771
>not having a bot gf
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>>128860938
This is actually a great idea
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>>128860909
> tfw putin suddenly backs qatar and nukes saudis
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>>128859814
Well the Bolsheviks were all Jews, why should we think Russia still isn't a Jewish state?
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>>128857613
>(((CNN Exclusive)))

>>128857983
>Trump got Taqiyya'd
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>>128860938

russian hackers killed JFK
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>>128860909
>implying potus knows there is a base in Quatar
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>>128861133
>Assuming the potus cannot access information on what countries has military bases or simply doesnt know because 'durr hes stupid'

I thought germans were rational thinkers who didnt let their emotion cloud their thoughts
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>>128860938
The EU is controlled by Russian hackers.
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>>128861305
literally every single election in the EU, russian hackers control all of the media, so the hacked population votes for the russian hacker candidate
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>>128857613
What did that kike boast? Something about when Americans can't tell truth from lies then their goal would be accomplished

Listen, the fake media has admitted that less than 25% of what it presents as 'news' has any basis in reality
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>>128861290
>autism
You took my comment serious?
Of course he knows, he also knows how to defeat ISIS in 30 days.
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>>128860938
Well a ton of Jews have Russian background so it's entirely plausible it's merely a plot by white supremacists to enter the Jewish conspiracy into public mind in disguise.
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>>128857613
Russia is a convenient scapegoat for everything the kikes don't like.
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>>128861381
AY YO
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN
RUSSIA IS BEHIND THE ISLAMIFICATION OF EUROPE AS A METHOD TO GAIN SUPERPOWER STATUS BY ANNIHILATING OTHER WHITE NATIONS FROM THE INSIDE THROUGH LEFTIST RULE?
SHEEEEIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT
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>>128861575
KGB is laughing about your soap star.
America got played and you guys are too dimwit to even understand.
End of the food chain for decades to come, wait for it. Heil Putin.
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>>128857613
>mfw this is a real headline and not a satirical one generated by a Markov chain
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>>128861697
yeah cause russians hacked the birthrates and slashed government programs
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>>128857613
>anything bad happens for globalists
>"MUH RUSHUH DID IT!"
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>>128858902
That's what Putin said last week.
https://youtu.be/8mKe81Gs4FY
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>>128858012
Hey, good stuff man. Thx for posting
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THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!
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>>128858902
everybody has their own word for the jews
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>>128860938
HACKERS??!!
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>>128861738
Okay achmed, good luck raping white women.
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In Russia everything is blamed on the USA too. Glad you guys are catching up.
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>>128861989
Don't let the Jews kill us again, broski. Stay stronk.
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>>128861738
> muh rapefugee muh shitskin dick
What a nice gag reflex you have there.
Keep sucking, goood boy!
As I said no country can be played as easy as a shed full of sub-fish-IQ lowlifes like you.
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someone needs to teach the left some other technique for subversion besides hacking. you can't just keep declaring everything was a hack.
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>>128861989
USA was well overdue for yet another red scare.
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>>128862150
>don't let the russian hackers kill us again, broski
Ftfy
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>>128860938
Considering it was the Jews who invented the "russia hacking" meme, this would be especially funny
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>>128857613
stop hacking me! ADN STOP THAT RUSSIAN BIAS IN GAMES AND STOP HACKING MY FRIG!
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>>128862195
It would make perfectly sense for Russia to hack Qatar and for the american deep state to leak they did.
Putin uses the old US doctrine of 'enemy's enemy is a friend' against you.
>muh leftists attack Putin, he is /ourguy/ now.
Everybody gets what he deserves, though.
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>>128861959
sorry, here you go.
>>128862176
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>>128862195
B-b-but sources say
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>>128857613
> Perez
> Prokupecz
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>>128857613
>muh Russian hacker bogeyman

God I fucking hate cnn
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>>128862337
So are they claiming that Russia inserted an article into a Qatar newspaper? Or that some news feed picked up another article from some Macedonian blogger?
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>>128862258
>>128861958
>>128861533
>>128861305
>>128861086
>>128861020
>>128861381
>>128861697
>>128861850
Alright it is settled then, someone make the thread
Don't let your dreams be memes
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6fp4mx/us_suspects_russian_hackers_planted_fake_news/
they believe it
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>>128858166
Some byzantine muzzie backstabbing. Saudi, Bahrain and Emirates embargoed and travelbanned Qatar. For supporting terrorism...
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(((russian hackers)))
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>>128862587
Who is the macedonian blogger then?
I tell you this..
It would make sense for Russia because they are hurt by low gas / oil prices.
A conflict in the ME makes oil rise as well as gold.
2015 / 16 Russia was massively buying every dip in gold.
Qatar is milking one of the biggest gas fields alongside Iran.
Iran may already have made a backdeal with Russia to go into dwarf-state Qatar as protectionist force once they situation boils over.
You are getting played, it's that easy.
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>>128857613
>Russia
>an ally of Iran
>planting shit that gets Katar into troubles
>for being too close to Iran

They don't even try to keep their lies coherent anymore.
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>>128857613
No honestly at this point CNN language is that of nigger speak. Just replace oonga boonga with Russia and Trump and you literally can't tell the difference between the two.
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The Saudis have had an Anti Qatar rhetoric since weeks. I doubt the Qatar ban is based on some 'Russian fake news'.
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>>128857613
It's always the fucking ruskie, I tried to warn Americans about it for years. Cold war never ended, KGB still operates on full swing.

In the morning, just today, I open the fridge and BAM the fucking GRU officer inside. I go to the car, want to put something in the trunk - BAM, two FSB agents jump out of it. My smartphone, notebook and toaster have already been compromised by russian hackers. Beware guys and stay safe
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>>128863054
Hate on CNN, but don't forget to use your brain while at it.
It is disgusting to see how easy americans suck up the narrative, I blame it on your low level of education.
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>>128857613
From now on when parents want to make their kids behave
they'll threaten them with Russian Hackers
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>>128863098
Since Trump signaled them to show strength.
Witness how the US get lured into a conflict with Iran in slow-motion, mark my words.
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>>128857625

Thanks Archivebrah
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>>128862977
for all these claims of "russians planted fake news" not once do they let you see an example of this fake news story. let's see the story they're referencing in Qatar. Is it out there and I'm missing it?
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>>128857613

>CNN exclusive

heh
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>>128857613
>tfw Russians will never hack your virginity
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>>128861431
Just throw out every single article that cites anonymous sources.
The few legit ones you might unfairly discard because of that are an acceptable sacrifice.
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>>128863159
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>CNN
stopped reading right there

EVERYTHING is Russian with these faggots

6.9 quake rocks L.A. Sources say Russian hacker to blame
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>>128857613
>CNN
So literally not true
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>>128863189
Fuck off Ahmed
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>>128862821
Scrolling over it, most seem to say that CNN is full of shit and that Russia is just a convenient scapegoat for SA trying to undermine Iran's influence in the region.
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>>128863602
At least their post-election hysteria made scanning the international section in the Germans news much easier.
Just ctrl+f for "CNN" and "Washington Post" and I know if it's worth reading.
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>>128860244
>butthurt liberals
lol
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Do you think we could qualify as an anonymous source at CNN? Why don't we start blaming Russian Hackers for the 2008 financial crises, bloods for oil, and global warming? Just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
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>>128863331
How it went down exactly or what do you mean?
There are a few sources, I only found german ones.
State media of Qatar released a statement 05-24-17 acknowledging Iran as muslim regional force and that Hamas was the legitimate spokesperson for palestinians. Furthermore that Qatar seeked 'strong ties' to Iran and that Iran was 'a stabilizing factor to the region'.
After these statements were sent out Qatar denied them immediately and blamed it on hackers.
In fact the site of that same news agency was offline for several hours.
That didn't stop SA and others to go full blown retard, though.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/saudi-arabien-vs-katar-darum-geht-s-beim-showdown-am-golf-a-1150708.html
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>>128857613
Yeah, 5 countries all of a sudden cut ties with a country solely based on fake news.
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Russia hacked 9/11
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>>128863189
its not education they good monkeys memorizing. Its emotional maturity.

that s why trump won with its retarded hate speech. Thats why only some young people in europe did fall for the meme.

The older you get the mature you are and emotional stable, that´s why he cant get any support in Europe. Thats why trump is failing in Europe.

if you talk to a american you have to talk like to a retarded child.
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>>128864136
thanks. so they're going to claim that Qatar's news agency didn't send that out and that it was hackers. Got it. I guess their options were limited.
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>>128863910
You forgot NYT ABC CBS MSNBC NBC PBS BBC
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>>128857730
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

FUCKING THIS ;)
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>>128864219
>german proxy
>reddit spacing
>trying to demoralize by attacking age

YUP shareblue is up early this morning
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My bus arrived 3 minutes late today. I suspect Russian hackers, but I can't confirm it. Do any of you lads encountered anything related to Russian hackers lately?
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This is not the week CNN should be talking about fake news
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I think Russia hacked my vodka and that's why I'm an alcoholic
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I dropped my coffee mug this morning, resulting in it breaking and coffee being all over the floor.
I called an individual familiar with Vladimir Putins thinking and he said it is very possible that the Russians can have hacked into the atomic particles of the mug and made it unstable, resulting in me dropping it. Another source is highly likely to confirm this soon.
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>>128864756
Just got back from the call with this other source who is in intelligence and he said that the Russians does indeed have this capability. So that's 2 very very legit sources saying the same thing
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>>128864219
So basically we are just getting old?
Went to america, they don't even understand irony or sarcasm and I was in NY and not in the bible belt.
I think it has to do with education as well, logical consecutive thinking is not something you are born with. Look how they those autists react to your comment.
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>>128864429
He's true though.
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>>128864429
its always Russians or reddit. God forbid there is Russian reddit your ass explodes from all that butthurt.
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Anonymous sources confirm Russian hackers are responsible for propagation of hateful online frog images
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Russian hackers are doing absolutely fucking everything these days

Did you know that Theresa May didn't actually want tomorrow's election? The russians hacked her and made her do it.
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>>128865175
Anonymous sources confirm fish DNA is better than yours.
>liberals attack Putin, wtf he is /ourguy/ now
Why do you americans always stick to that age-old 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' doctrine? KGB loves to use that against you.
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Now that I think about it I think a Russian hacker hacked my girlfriend's pussy because she is pregnant now and I always wear a condom.
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>>128864956
pretty much, we are grown up while they are children.

In Europe you learn to think in america you learn to memorize. They are just not challenged. hence you see that in voter behavior, all the artists and thinkers scientist did go dems while the retards cached by burger propaganda did vote trump.

You may or not may heard about the talks to let 16 year old vote being thrown around in Europe, thats because amerinigger propaganda cant catch on in euro adults but works perfectly fine on children and teens.
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>>128865483
Non-anonymous sources confirm you are a cuk
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>>128857613
>Russian hackers planted fake news behind Qatar crisis
The Kremlin did the same thing in Ukraine in 2015
http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-cyberberkut-hackers-link-isis-ukrainian-weapons-negotiations-qatar-russian-2195165
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>>128865613
>In Europe you learn to think

Not anymore. I have to deal with the Erstsemestern and they do nothing but parrot shit they learned by heart.

If you present them with a question they don't even fully read it, they read maybe half and then they stumble across a keyword and just reiterate what they have learned to spout as response to that.

It's insanely hard to train them to use their fucking brain at that point too, because the Prägungsphase has been left long ago. They have serious problems processing any sentence that goes past a couple words, or actually thinking about the question.
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Russia is so evil that since WW2 they hacked :

Two atomic bomb on a ready to surrender japan just to impress capitalist america
Napalm and agent orange over vietnam, war started on a false pretense, killing millions of civilians.
A democratic government in Iran
The funding and training of Alqaeda and the Talibans in Afghanistan
The destabilization of Iraq, under false pretenses again
The destruction of Libya
A coup in Indonesia
A coup in Greece
A coup in Brazil
A coup in Haiti
A coup in Guatemala
A coup in El Salvador
A coup in Chile
The 2016 US presidential election
Qatar
Dota 2 servers
CS:Go servers
A 12 years old minecraft server
My mom
Chelsea Clinton's mom

This country must be stopped, we can't allow this anymore.
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>>128865708
>still using the word cuck
Sure, snowflake!
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>>128865613
>In Europe you learn to think in america you learn to memorize

No you don't, not in the educational system anyway. Luckily it is still fairly common in the culture compared to many other places however, so parents tend to teach their kids to think, more than in many other places. But I do feel it is rapidly going away here too, while indoctrination form the state and media grows at a rapid pace instead.
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>>128865613
Yes I heard about letting 16 year old vote, interesting idea, I will dig further.

This next generation is clueless anyway, but I can't blame them.
They didn't had the chance to see 2001 and how the public opinion was slowly swayed to support war against Afghanistan and then Iraq, they barely witnessed 2008 and if so blame it on democrats who were just elected that year, same as they think Trump is responsible for the fixed economy he inherited and good numbers coming in.
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>>128866305
You forgot about my toaster buddy, and that's where I draw the line.
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>>128857613
take the ultimate red pill
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves
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>>128866987
>>128865613
Letting 16 years old vote will be the biggest shitshow ever and you will be labelled all kind of -phobic if you're against it.

Europe is at a turning point, the old retards "without america we would be speaking german" are slowly starting to die and with internet the brainwashing is harder everyday. Letting retarded young people vote is their only option, at that age you don't care about anything to do any research of your own. You just swallow what the medias tell you.
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>>128867830
You first https://vimeo.com/136182100
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>>128857613
When are we going to wipe Russia off the face of the earth? All they cause is trouble and AIDS
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>>128867876
Maybe it's better to let them swallow what media tells them instead of what degenerate 15 year olds at youtube have to say?
We agree on web 2.0 being catalyzer of brainwash and retardism.
I seriously believe in Europe. Not in it existing structures, but in a woke USE with a fiscal union.
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>>128858902
Can we meme this into reality? It'll redpill normies on how bullshit this Russia story is while subtly suggesting who controls everything.
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>>128868091

we're still talking about the jews right?
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>>128867876
aka emotional/intellectual maturity

You could claim Americans are niggers and or young people are.

Lack of empathy.
Lack of far sight.
Controlled by hormones and emotions.


Truly this would be the greatest shit show ever. Sure there are some 16 year old that are by far more mature then there peers. but by far to few.
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>>128867876
Luckily it won't happen because the CDU still has the majority and they won't allow it.
Their official reasoning even makes sense, stating that you cannot extend the voting right to people who cannot yet be held responsible for the consequences of their choice.

With the inofficial reason obviously that the young would vote for anyone but them.
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>>128862337
Hacking a news paper and inserting an article doesn't lead to the tension we are seeing now. If you belive that you are utterly fucking retarded and need help.
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>>128868461
Stuck by reducing everything to (((them))) while the complex real world is playing ping-pong on your back.
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>>128868475
>>128868550
>>128867876

I demand a 'democratic driver's license' for being able to vote.
Proof that you at least understand the basics before you are allowed to the ballots.
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>>128864956
>be me
>Living in New York
>walking down the street
>see guy shuffling in the other direction
>he stumbles as he passes me
>eyimwalkin'here.jpg
>hear him mumble "dumb americans" in heavy german accent
>nog also hears
>"ay yo get out of here white boi"
>softly whispers "f-fucking 60%"
>"the fuck you say cracker"
>"n-n-nothing"
>guy akwardly walks away
>schnitzel coming out of pockets
>faintly hear "american education" as he walks down the street
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>>128860938
Now that's what I call jewing
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What makes Russian hackers so good? They seem to be capable of hacking anything and anyone without leaving a trace of any sort behind.
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>>128868782
Either that or some kind of voluntary duty you have to perform to get your voting right.

Thinking back to my Oberstufe politic lessons is a fucking pain.

>we spent at least 4 lectures on talking about the German voting system, why you have two votes, what they do, what Ăśberhangmandate are, what the Bundesrat is and so on
>maybe 4 people actually understood it

Nothing more infuriating than talking about politics with someone who obviously knows shit all about it. Same for all those people who always claim that there is "nothing but nonsense" in the party programs, but one question is enough to show that they never read a single one in their life.

Or alternatively people who claim that coalition agreements are entirely worthless when they actually do have a decent rate of being fulfilled, just that the person you are talking to never even knew what was written in there and is still thinking about some vague as fuck election promise.
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>>128863384
M8, I think there are many countries you can visit where you can find a nice Russian lady who will hack your virginity from all angles in exchange for a small fee.
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>>128857613

>Carlos Mencia
>reports

So now Carlos Mencia is an expert presstitute. Wew.
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>>128860964

and CIA is not USA.
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>>128857613
Its called reflexive control.
Look it up. That's what Russia has been doing for years. Creating desired reactions from false perceptions created by them.

https://www.rit.edu/~w-cmmc/literature/Thomas_2004.pdf

>One of the prime goals for a comm
ander in warfare is to inter-
fere with the decision-making
process of an enemy commander.
This goal is often accomplished by the use of disinformation,
camouflage, or some other stratagem. For Russia, one of the primary
methods is through the use of the
theory of reflexive control (RC).
This principle can be used agai
nst either human-mental or com-
puter-based decision-making processo
rs. The theory is similar to the
idea of perception management, excep
t that it attempts to control
more than manage a subject.

Another thing is Gerasimov Doctrine
https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/the-gerasimov-doctrine-and-russian-non-linear-war/

If you don't want to read these, you can find your own sources, just look up these terms:
Reflexive control
Gerasimov Doctrine
Active Measures
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>>128864011
RUSSIANS DID THE 6,000,000,000,000,000
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>>128868881
kek apostrophe d
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>>128860938

Russian hackers did 9/11.
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>>128865613
What do the German schoolchildren get taught about WW2 in Germany? From the outside it looks like every generation is burdened with guilt over stuff they had nothing to do with.
Is anyone allowed to defend the German point of view in ww2 or is that outlawed?
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>>128870228
Its generally accepted that Italy s incompetence did caused the loosing of WW2.

You can off coarse start defending Hitler but I never encounter d any retard tryin to do so.
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>>128858902
inc me in screencap pls!
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I'm deeply saddened by the fact that nobody pities my hacked toaster. Pic related is the kind of shit I have to deal with from now on.
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>>128857983
A while I was thinking Trump is just trying to fool everybody, but now I'm really starting to believe that he just honestly doesn't know what he is doing. That he is the one being fooled. Sad.
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>>128857984
Our babushkas can capture your flag for a couple of hours! hahaha.. no... HAHAHAHAHA
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>>128860938
That's brilliant.
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>>128857613
REMINDER

>>128868399
>>128868399
>>128868399
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>>128857613
"Under his leadership, Qatar initiated construction of 2 million square feet of scientific infrastructure to support the Qatar National Research Strategy and made significant progress in recruiting world-class expertise, with more than 500 scientists joining the effort."

"oversees one of the nation’s largest research and development (R&D) programs, with an annual budget of more than $1.4 billion and a portfolio that spans ... global security for the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and other sponsors."

and other sponsors

that would be nsa

http://research.utk.edu/people/thomas-zacharia/
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>>128860938
counter-semitic
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>>128858902
THIS MUST BE MEMED INTO REALITY!!!!
RUSSIAN HACKERS ARE KIKES
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>>128861697
kek, and a hearty one at that
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>>128857872
Underrated post.
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>>128872717
Gold.
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Is it just me or does anyone else realize that this whole sudden "Qatar crisis" is just a big joke?
So they're telling us that SAUDI ARABIA is cutting ties with Qatar because they "support islamic terrorism"?

SAUDI ARABIA would be happy about it, as they support it too. Why is anyone buying the bullshit?
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>>128857625
You're doing gods work, I want you to know that.
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This is honestly getting laughable at this point. Even our own ABC is all "Russua is now a threat to Australian democracy" now. Journalists are scum of the Earth tier, lower than politicians.
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>>128860938
Bring up "200 Years Together" by Solzhenitsyn.
Say russian hackers is a dog whistle for jews. They love dog whistles, e.g. "globalists is a dog whistle for jews."
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>>128857613
>raining
>sources say it's due to russian hacking
>cnn exclusive
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>>128858902
((((((((((((russians)))))))))))))))))
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>>128857983
>Saudi would take a hard line on funding terrorism
Focking gold
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>>128869660
delete it
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>>128858166
Part of the deal Trump strike with Saudis
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>>128857613
How many times are you going to post this?
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>>128857613
>Implying the CIA didn't plant fake news to cover their own ass
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>>128858902
>>128861891

He did and it was brilliant.
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>>128857983
>Unironically fund terrorist organizations
>Tweet this cancer
The hypocrisy is fucking disgusting.
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>>128858902
Russian Hackers were behind the 6 million deaths
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CNN is fucking Fake news
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