/pol/ communism general

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>Communist
>Brainlet
Pick both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcbLrhUeFLg
Nothing they say is reasonable or supportd by facts. When will they learn?

>>128851731

So everybody who works/fights for the cap class in a world revolving around $ turns their guns on their $ income providers, vanquishes and liquidates then divides their old leaders' monies equally among the peoples then becomes carpenters to support autistic wizards?

Soz didnt read your resources cbf

How many times will you make this wretched thread?
How many nations need to be ruined by communism, how many lives destroyed, before you finally fuck off with your Marxist bullshit?

The bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc
if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois
if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc)
a good litmus test:
''1. do you work for a wage?
2. do you get to decide your wage?
3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?''
if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois
if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois
if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois
if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois

If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian.
It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

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>>128851731
Apparently the crazy taxi clicker is pretty woke

>>128853523
What if I do not work at all or am a public employee (aka no-show or no-work job), like you?

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>>128853717
Makes sense the genre would go there.
All clickers are prety much a satire of the natural result of capitalism.

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>>128851731

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>128853523
Farmers who own the land they work aren't bourgeois?
Then why did communists genocide them? Did they just hate Ukrainians or something?

>>128854334
They were producing food.
That's a capital sin in communism.

>>128854334

Kulaks are enemies of the people. Those who are competent enough to work hard and eventually own a piece of land are a threat to glorious equality.

Only when the entire world is turned into a desert of mongrel people (Trotsky's words) can there be true equality. The competent and smart kulaks therefore must be destroyed.

It's for social justice obviously.

>>128851731
>general copypasta

>>128853285
Picture praising Stalin

>>128853523
>copypasta

>>128853637
>Youtube video

OP fag doesn't really say anything himself because he can't think of himself.

Sage'd in options

>>128855488
>socialism
>marvels of science
>culture

OP never comes up with any intelligent arguments and posts sassy sozzie maymays.

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>>128851731
>Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

>What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

>ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

>It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

>Resources:
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

>>128851731
Comunism is good
Untill you start to starve

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I bet OP hasn't read this book, nor he will try

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this is now an anti-commie thread

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>>128856661

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>>128856878

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also, jews did 9/11

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I bet OP doesn't have friends irl because nobody can stand his speeches and constant propaganda

>>128856878
Well kekd 'stralia

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>>128857012
translation por favor

>>128857071
All what I don't like must be forbidden
All what I like must be paid by someone else

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>>128857130

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coup de grace, kys OP

>>128851731
Shut up, commie, this shit does't work

>>128851731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc

>>128851731
I think you should go into a communist country,live there and shut the fuck up.

Oh wait....

>>128857392
It is really a shame all what's happening to Venezuela, it used to be a rich country and a lot of Spanish emigrated there in the 20th Century when we were in the dictatorship and now it's a mess and soon it will be a failed state

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPoJgQaGuSw

>>128853459
Depends.
How many times will you fail to see no state can develop properly under full embargo

>>128857725
>128857725
Germany under Adolf Hitler?

>>128857628
You sick prick.They literally ran over protesters in the recent protests.And all you can say is "what a shame" ?You should be put down you salsa pot.

>>128857811
I know it's worse than "a shame" all what's happening there, but thank you for reminding me

Is Corbyn /ourguy/ ?

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This is very accurate

>>128851731
Oy vey, fuck off with these commie threads.

>has never read one of Marx books
>"communism is shit"

>>128858243
Everything sounds good on paper.Not so good in actions after.

Ive noticed most shareblue, shills, lefties are leaving Pol. More better threads are made.

Or mods are doing their jobs, or Soros money dried out, or we scared them away.

Anyway the good guys are winning the war on Pol.

>>128858243
>never live in Russia under communist regime
>communism is great

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>>128859025
really hoping this whole post is a troll.

>>128851731
Pol is not a Jewish board, nor is it a Jewish ideology board. Fucking eliminate your meaningless life.

>>128857725
How can't you see that people from other countries don't want to trade with countries where people's feelings are above law and stability? Embargo is the least you can do to a country that wipes their asses with contracts

>>128851731
socialism or communism are not jew friendly systems so they ll never exist
your masters will do everything to prevent world wide communism/socialism coming through, including supporting batshit crazy people, like they did on afghanistan, like they are doing rightnow on syria

>>128859186
Vatniks and sovoks - yes, russians - no

>>128860345
>created by jew
>not jew-friendly
Kek

>>128859186
Most English regret the fall of the British Empire too.
Imperialism is funny like that.

>>128859560
lol why would jews be for communism if it destroys (((big business and banks)))

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>>128851731
haha how do you even get up in the morning and think "I'm going to do what's best for my shitty government that barely gives me enough food to avoid starvation"

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

>>128860540
yea yea pls tell me more about how a system that values society more than wealth is jew friendly compared to a system solely depends on wealth hierarchy
best arguement you have against communism is the brutal ways of the previous regimes, which can be acceptable relative to its era or conditions
or how it would collapse if it is applied to current capitalistic systems (it is funnier that you defend the measures taken by the jews to support that idea)

>>128861354
All the wealth is owned by the jews. Society is nothing.

bumperino

>>128859560
>Pol is not a Jewish board, nor is it a Jewish ideology board.
I think its the ancaps you should be getting mad about in that case.

Has someone read the essay "Why socialism?"

>>128861354
this

>>128851731
communism was invented by the Jews to enslave your stupid ass
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2DRkqR2hkM

>>128868967
sage
>never built

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>>128856967
>JEWS DID WTC!!!
It's funny because it's true!

Secular Socialism does not fucking work. It fucking has not, and never will.

When the working class introduces the $$$ into the pyramid, it disappears into the top layers, where the kike lives.

It also successful genocides the Gentile population when the aforementioned kikes don't give a shit about what embezzling those funds does to the said population.

Marx said "the first step is to remove religion" and the rest of his theory was spot-on.

Hitler said "Fuck that heresy of the first part" and Christian Nation Socialism conquered Europe, pulling Germany from a Great Depression into a war machine.

If the Jews didn't incite violence among the Allies, all that industry towards Submarines, tanks and aircraft could have been used on medical advancements and farming.

I fucking hate you Commies and will put a bullet between your fucking eyes if you try to blue-pill too hard.

>>128870198
I don't care if this was old. I had to control my laughter (it's late as shit) but I couldn't contain my tears!

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>>128870797
>When the working class introduces the $$$ into the pyramid
The whole point of communism is that there is no "pyramid" and no "$$$" you dolt
>If the Jews didn't incite violence among the Allies, all that industry towards Submarines, tanks and aircraft could have been used on medical advancements and farming.
Are you just ignoring the fact that Germany invaded most of Europe along with Russia, while their ally Japan invaded China and attacked the US? The nazis intentionally devoted their industry towards military purposes in order to plunder other countries like the barbarians they were, and hilariously it was largely funded by usury schemes such as the mefo notes.
Put down the kool-aid and open a history book, anon.
>>128867802
>communism was invented by the Jews to enslave your stupid ass
Do you have even the slightest idea what communism actually is? The whole idea is to free the working class from the wealthy capitalists who leech the value from their work. And no, not all of the capitalist parasites are (((DA JOOOOZ)))- there are capitalists of all ethnicities and they're all fucking you over. It is capitalism that enslaves the working class, not communism. If you seriously believe in Jewish conspiracy nonsense then maybe you should take a look at Murray Rothbard, the guy responsible for right-"libertarianism"

>>128872553
You're a foolish pseudo-intellectual who subscribes to a satanic ideology who got off the ground by murder a Russian Czar, his German wife and their CHILDREN. The initial Bolshevik Central Government was 95% Christian.

I don't think YOU understand how Communism works. Wages are predetermined based on labor, regardless of the actual turnover on the product. Therefore excess profits DO go into the pyramid. Wages come from that pyramid.

Fuck, how are you not gonna touch on 66 million dead Soviets under your Jewish economic system?

And go fuck yourself about Gentile-capitalists fucking me over. The trilateral commission, wall street, bilderburger, Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court and the BANKS have disproportionate Jewish representation to the tune of several thousand percent. You are a blue-pilled faggot who reads kike books.

>>128873363
The initial Bolshevik Central Government was 95% Jewish**********

>>128851731
>POL communism

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO
no ahhh... ahah.. no. Yeah no.

Get in the helicopter. Or gas chamber. Doesn't matter rope will do the trick.

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>>128873727

Hi there comrade, you seem to be in a great mood, did you start reading Marx?

>>128857276
I'm happy with doing both

>>128874126
Dude I'm down with socialism but take the national socialist pill. It's so much better than communism. This class war is bullshit, is means nothing with a united people bound by race. Wealth redistribution is unnecessary because a united racial party will create the class cohesion. It's the same reason families work together with different wealth inequalities in the family.

Take the red pill.

>>128874126
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ddOmzQlgY

Wong pwace fwaggot

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>>128870491
is somebody forgetting the great leap forward and stalins purges?

How many anons red pilled on the (((economy))) and became communists?

>>128876350

>> implying not (((communism)))?

>>128876350
You're the same fucking idiot in the other thread that was claiming that Marx was calling out Jews, while being a fucking kike himself

Off yourself.
sage

>>128876350
Get the fuck out of my country, subhuman.