universal basic income

>>128837927
You forgot hand lotion.

>>128837927
Because the rest of us would have to work and pay taxes so that you could live like a nigger.

>>128837927
>Flag
>Dude weed lmao

In a theoretical almost self-maintaining society, I would want

>Internet
>Computer
>Phone
>Plumbing
>Bed
>Food
>Water
>AC/Heating

Too bad that won't happen.

Best I can do for you comrade is soylent rations, communal housing and a cycling license. If you all pitch in enough voluntary labour units at the cricket flour mill maybe we can get you set up on the social media+netflix combo.

All I need is

>concentration camps
>one reich
>one folk
>one leader
>nationalism
>socialism
>mp40
>10 million jews a month

Why are you against ethnic genocide?

Because it goes against everything natural, this is like saying "oh why don't you want women to be whores, free pucc man!"

>>128837927
I agree op, why does anyone care, anything I do with my money just gets pumped back the economy. I hate life and want to die a neet .

>>128839920
this

>>128839524
thats already the way it is, wagie

>>128837927
who's paying for u to be a bum, pleb?

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>>128837927
Why should i pay for this shit? If you want it work for it. Get the fuxk away from my money you tax grabbing cunt

>>128837927
that life is a lot better than working almost any job that pays under 50k a year. It's also completely unproductive and unsustainable.

>>128840503
America pays yours.

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sometimes there's a neet... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a neet. And I'm talkin' about that neet here. Sometimes, there's a neet, well, he's the neet for his time and place. He fits right in there.

>>128840503
Says the jew.

>>128839524
Robots will do the work, why would anyone do work if they didn't have to?

>>128837927
Because I don't want to pay to give you anything.
Pretty simple. I'll pay a bit of my income for the bullet that should be used to put you down.

>>128837927
Get a job then. I've all of those things and I'm a fucking accordion teacher (a damn good one at that). Just go learn some programming and get a semi-well paying dead-end job

>>128840312
Not for me. I own my own business and don't pay taxes. I will start when welfare leeches are cut off.

>>128837927
Because I would have less for my work so that you can have more for fucking nothing. Try to offer something back before asking me retarded questions like why I don't give you my money.

>>128840969
That's the future, this is now.

I work a bunch, I'm surrounded by assholes who don't work and complain about "the system" fuck these niggers

>>128837927
Because if we gave you that you'd give absolutely nothing back.
Money doesn't grow on trees you faggot

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>>128837927
>Not wanting to
>OWN your own house
>OWN your own land
>OWN your own car
>OWN your own clothes
>OWN your own phone
The list goes on and on faggot.

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>>128837927
>$50 a month for leisure
NEET detected. Who the fuck wants to only make 50 bucks?

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>>128840503
This is reverse psychology.

>>128837927
So in this case universal basic income exists in Germany already for decades. With Hartz 4 you can afford all of this. You get a flat. Ticket for public transport and around 200-300 for food and other necessities.

>>128837927
DUDE
WEED
You forgot a dog to suck your dick you fucking leaf

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>>128837927
Gee I dont know, why would I be against outright bankrupting my own country...

We can't afford it you fucking retards. Deal with it.

>>128840503
Youre getting paid by America to even have anything you filthy kike. PAY DEBNTS

>>128841148
He could just grow weed and sell it to support his leafstyle, then it would grow on trees.

>>128841532
if you unjewed your country you could

>>128841207

You don't own your house/land, you rent it from the government under the guise of "property taxes".

The state is literally making up jobs because the economy is so bad.

If the entire welfare system and the beaurocracy could be removed then universal income would be affordable.

Minimum wage jobs and bus drivers / taxis / pilots are going to get automated within this decade.

>>128838145
only good goys marked by the jew need lotion m8

>>128837927
Because I like driving my 60k car while wearing 300 a piece clothing and dining at 5 star gourmet restaurants. Your sorry cucked leaf self can stay at home a fap all day eating ramen noodles.

>>128837927
how can anyone smoke weed while being unemployed?

When I get high, I sit at my PC and think of everything i've done wrong recently.

>>128837927
>toilet
>no sink or tub

Are you going wash yourself in the toilet?

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Is there a job for every adult to support themselves on? Not minimum wage, an actual job they can live off of?

If there isn't, what do the leftover people do?

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>>128841818
Though I am not disagreeing about certain taxes, my 7,000$ property tax per year > 800$ per month renting and 7k is considered high in my area.

universal income should only cover shelter and food, you should pay for the rest of your shit. UI can only work in an otherwise unregulated free market

>>128840174
No it's not you mongrel. The only natural thing there is, is fighting for women.

>>128842121

Retards tend to think about nothing when they get high, like they do most of the time anyway. Smart people start thinking too much. I get really fucking paranoid and start analyzing every little action that everyone around me makes, for instance.

>>128842170
Subsistence farming

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As soon as Zuckerberg hands me his money and kills himself along with Al Gore, I won't even consider it.

>>128837927
You're a disgusting, lazy unambitious fag. Some of us like to buy nice things and don't just lay around like unholy slobs

>>128837927
That might work when automation starts producing a surplus of everything and the population gets cut down by 80%. But don't forget the mouse utopia experiment. When we are completely comfortable without effort, we are doomed.

>>128842459
Why is it disgusting to not have an insatiable desire for material goods and services?

>>128837927
Here I fixed your list:

all you need:

>shotgun, 12 gauge
>12 ga slug
>itchy trigger finger

blow your brains out faggot

>>128842459
You are still allowed to work for extra money

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>>128842261
>UI can only work in an otherwise unregulated free market

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>>128841025
>I own my own business and don't pay taxes
Gonna laugh when the govt comes and takes your house away. Matter of fact, here they come now

>>128842572
>disgusting to not have an insatiable desire for material goods and services?
That's not the issue. The issue is that you are asking for someone else to support your lifestyle. Why should I or anyone else have to pay for YOU?

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>>128837927
leeching faggot

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>>128842572
>for material goods and services?
You don't have to care about these and still not live under a control system like the one OP is putting out. You fucking retarded kohai?

>>128842459
not buying nice things and living a meek life makes you a slob.
thanks for the life tip, america. i'll always do my best to try and be more like you.

>didn't ask for laundry soap or body soap or shampoo or a razor

>>128842170
This is the problem. Nobody against things like a wage hike or UBI understands that there's flat out not enough jobs left, because fuckers who wanted their pocketbook fattened even more started shipping whatever they could to the fucking third world starting in the 70s so they could pay them pennies instead of dollars.

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>>128842590
He really only needs pic related

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>>128841025
>complains about welfare leeches
>doesnt pay his taxes

>>128842590
This,i dont want an universal income beacuse parasites like op would get to still live on this planet.

>remove all illegal immigrants and cut all federal funding for states tolerating sanctuary cities
>federal work requirement for welfare
>federal drug testing for welfare
>cut federal waste (harsh penalties for high-level government officials buying billions worth of electronics and burying them to keep/increase funding, etc)
>isolationist defense and aid policy
>federal legalization of cultivation and possession of weed (+taxation to fund these programs)
>ban on muslim immigration, surveillance on 1st/2nd gen muslims currently in country, commit to strong alliance with assad and russia in the current theatre as a means a more swift end to isis to allow for eventual cutbacks in defense spending, etc

I have no problems with some socialist policies such as this so long as it strictly benefits hardworking americans

>>128842368
Does everyone get free land to farm on? Is there enough?

>>128842572
I save my excess money and am extremely frugal but I still WORK and then SAVE what is leftover after necessary expenses.
That's his money and he can do what he wants with it. Your money from gibs is NOT your money. You did not earn it. You are not morally superior when you didn't even earn it for yourself.

>>128842916
What? Taxation is disastrous if taxes are managed by bureaucrats and used to fund niggers. Don't compare someone who doesn't want to give up their income to someone who feels entitled to another's income. Fuck off.

>>128842641
Good luck with that.
>>128842916
Paying federal taxes gives me nothing of benefit whatsoever. I don't support the purposes for which the military is used for and thus don't contribute into the military industrial complex. I don't support welfare leeches and thus don't pay for their welfare.

The things that matter to me are distributed among state sale taxes, tardo.

>>128841818
this guy knows what's up
The same goes for "your" car which the government taxes you for and can quite literally take back from you if you don't use it as you "should"

Ownership in the modern world is nothing but a delusion. That's why billionaires want to become presidents - because they realize that it was never about money or property but direct executive power and the ability to put yourself above the law. That's when you're truly free.

>>128842989
Yes. At least for now.

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>>128843087
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/federal-income-tax-laws-not-paying-taxes-4992.html
>Punishment for tax evasion, which includes not paying your taxes, can result in you spending up to five years in a federal prison. The federal government can also require you to pay fines of up to $250,000 for an individual and $500,000 for businesses.

Kek see you in the clink twerp

If we had universal basic income 75% of the population would be bored to death and would do stupid shit to entertain themselfs. Just look at those who get welfare for a longer periode of time. They have no drive to work or do anything at all. They are miserable people and they don´t even want to change.
People often bring up the argument that if we are freed from finincial problems we are free to persure our dreams. The problem with that is that the average IQ is 100 wich means half of the population is below that. Those people lack self-discepline and creativity.

In addtion to that is of course the moral problem and how to pay for all this shit.

>>128837927

>Unnecessary
>Unnecessary, also illegal
>Check
>Check
>Check
>arguable, though I'd personally give it a check
>Check
>fits with the first one.

any more questions?

>>128843352
Like I said, good luck. Keep praying they catch me to punish me for not paying for your diapers, useless nigger. Looks like you chose an apt reaction image.

>>128837927
Because then you get to live? And be a plague on our society. And who the fuck is going to pay for this asshole, half our population is over the age of 50 most already get pension. You want me to get taxed more? Or take it from the big American corporations that will just fucking leave if we tax them more.

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>>128843085
>Everyone else pays taxes
>Doesn't pay taxes because autistic screeching
>IRS BTFOs your bank account
>Mfw

Because such an idea like ''universal basic income'' encourages people to be lazy fucktards that doesnt contribute to the society, if you can work and decide not to, you deserve to die from starvation

>>128837927
will you live in a nigger neighborhood?

Does anyone else find it ironic that (((Zuckerberg))) wants us to live in mega cities with no jobs, no land, no home and everything being leased to us, while he and his (((friends))) live like kings?

>>128843734
It's been about a decade it hasn't happened. Keep dreaming nigger.

>>128837927
DUDE ROGAN LMAO

>>128843455
I'm surprised you understand this so well. I thought that only an American with experience seeing the effects of prolonged welfare on the ghetto nigger population would understand.

>>128843745
But it's not supposed to let you decide not to work even if you're able to. It's supposed to enable and increase economic mobility.

>>128843810
>live like kings...
Developing the "NEXT NEW GADGET" you must have for just 2$ a month.
>Meanwhile (((zuckerfaggot))) is on his yacht fucking some boy in the ass.

>>128841025
good man, taxation is unironically theft anyway

>>128843482
>Looks like you chose an apt reaction image.
I did. That's a pavement ape mocking you for being a fucking retard. You will be the laughing stock of your whole town when the IRS owns you like a fucking colonial slave. Even the niggers will laugh at you

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>>128842170

>what do leftover people do

>>128843938
>tax are theft
They can't steal what never actually belonged to you in the first place

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>>128843734
>Everyone else pays taxes
Yeah, and?
>IRS BTFOs your bank account

>he has a bank account

>>128840312
This. Money might as well start going to white people.

>>128843952
>nigger writes fantasy novel of how the good guy government is going to track down people not putting in money fo dem pwogwams
dont stop believing little monkey

>>128843984
>it's okay for niggers to get welfare because the money the government steals wasn't actually that persons money anyway :^)
Well, except it is, as I demonstrate by spending it instead of paying taxes.

>>128843933
>Make people get money for free
>Expect the production of products and services to stay the same, making the money flow
You see the flaw here? As i said, such an idea encourages being lazy

>>128841913
hej miki

Only if receivers of this basic income are sterilized and their voting rights removed.

>>128837927
I am for universtal basic income, but I don't understand why you mention things such as 50$ for leisure, weed, ID and shit.

The universal basic income should only be enough to sustain life, heavily incentivizing people to get a job. What's so nice about universal basic income is that we can remove all forms of "gibs me dat", meaning that we'll actually spend less money on people without jobs since we won't need anyone to examine applications for gibs etc

>>128842354
This.
I can't even smoke weed without taking benzos, because I become overwhelmed with global thoughts of future, present and past, which makes me anxious as fuck.

As long as everyone gets it regardless of income I don't care. Give everyone $1000 a month, even billionaires.

>>128844311
Explain.

WOO PEED ON MY RUG

>>128844195
This

>>128844195
Fun fact, they used to sterilize single mammy niggers as a condition on applying for welfare.
I feel that's more than fair. You can't support one kid, you have no business creating more.

>>128844311
This is bait right?

>>128844123
>he thinks spending it means it was his
You don't live in your precious ancapistan fantasy land, bucky. Everything you think you own is actually being leased to you by the federal reserve.
And it's not okay for niggers to get welfare period

>>128844174
Why wouldn't they stay the same? It doesn't encourage being lazy, what you mean is that it allows them to. And this is only the case if people get to choose whether they want to work.

>>128844311
>1 post by this ID

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>>128843882
Post your fuckin address. I'll send em on over

>>128843985
>He has a bank account
I do because I'm not a scrawny NEET who does nothing but jack off and eat baby fucking carrots

>>128844052
>Calling anyone else a nigger
>Doesn't pay taxes
You better hope the gubment doesn't find you, darkie

>>128844311
how the fuck would any government afford to give every citizen $1000 a month? That would cost 2.4 trillion dollars a year to fund for a 200million population.

All you need is a fucking bullet.
>>128842590

>>128837927
I'm against basic income because I'm against dysgenic government policies.

>>128844494
>bating this hard

>>128837927
>being an underage faggot
>1 post by this ID
Pathetic excuse of a human even for a Cuck.

>>128844494
Stop being so edgy, you are scaring the children

>>128844311
>>128844364
>>128844404
>1 post by this id

>>128844494
Only niggers care if other people pay their taxes, because they know where that sweet welfare comes from. That's why you posted an angry selfie flipping me off.
I'll give you my phone number, a nigger wouldn't know how to track someone with just that.
9294517267

>>128844503
How do you think the government affords anything? Just raise the taxes and they can afford anything

>>128837927
Nobody will find the motivation to make your beloved videya gaymes if everybody is paid doing nothing.

I can't comprehend how NEETs fail to understand that.

>>128841207
Ahh you fell for the Jew land 'ownership' meme. Such a good goy. Buy that house built in the 70's for 5000 dollars for the low low price of 350,000+. Don't you want to own it :^)
>don't forget your shekels every year goyim or you won't be owning shit

>>128837927

when universal basic income becomes law i'll become a parasite too, until it collapses and I'll still have my education and career to fall back on while you starve in a ditch.

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>>128844991
>Owning shit
>being a good goy
choose one

>>128844891
Nigga do you even know how the world works?
Do you know what inflation is?

>>128837927
fuck you commie

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>>128844774
http://www.whitepages.com/reverse_phone
Have fun in the slammer, zipperhead

>>128844991
Properties have been in my family since before (((they))) took control. Try again Phaggot, you're just mad someone can have a house and 20+ acres and pay less than you do for rent a year on it. As I said above, I don't agree with many taxes. There are states/counties that have no property tax you know right?

>>128845174
Of course I know what inflation is, and it has nothing to do with taxation. Inflation would only be an issue if the government actually printed more money, which is not what you do by taxation

>>128844991
While this is somewhat true, you do indeed own the house, just not the land.

>>128838145
>America

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>>128845314
>you do for rent a year on it.
Terrible grammar, I am going to bed.

>>128843110
Underrated post

>>128842170

There are jobs.

Unemployment is a good thing. It means people are well off enough to be without work for a bit to ensure that they get on somewhere that matches there skills.

If you really can't do anything else, you can do crime. I have no respect for someone so shitty that they would just roll over and die before doing something drastic.

>>128842368
>thousands of years of technological progress
>go back to toiling the land
This is literally retard logic.

Fuck It'd be better if people just went around with a damn broom and swept the streets/sidewalks

>>128842572

Because they aren't actually free of desire.

They are just burdened with laziness.

You could work seasonally doing something fun. (Camps, lifeguarding). On the off season you can collect unemployment. Doing this you would have enough money to have all the things listed above, you would just need to sleep in a camer van.

You can fish for the northern pike minnow and make 20k per 5 month season sitting on your ass and chilling on a boat.

All that is just too much burden to bear. This is why we have a problem.

>>128845925

Sweep sidewalks, power wash, paint over graffiti, plant trees, renovate public parks.

There is always work to be done.

>>128838145
JEWED

You don't need basic income, you need your balls back and revolt against your socialist government.

>>128846365
stop redditspacing, hombre

>>128837927
The universal basic income is there to prevent you from starving to death.
>Internet and computer
>weed
>50 dollars for leisure
Is all luxury that you're supposed to earn by being better than the absolute minimum.

>>128843110
>can quite literally take back from you if you don't use it as you "should
Not in my country. They can only keep you from using on their roads.

>>128843087
>doesn't pay federal taxes
>still complains about what the gov't spends money on
I hope you get audited
>b-but muh sales tax
Bitch you use the infrastructure, services and enjoy the protections like the rest of us. Pay your share, you're worse than a jew.

>>128846511

Sure thing shill.

Typical divide and conquer shit.

Respond with something so meaningless that there isn't even a second line to space apart.

Faggot.

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>>128838145
>Needs lotion for his mutliated dick

I thank my parents every day for having me at home and not at a hospital.

>>128844195
I'd have to be able to be very comfortable but I'd be down for that if I never had to worry about shit again

>>128846833

Reply with content por favor.

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>>128837927
You need to be sterilized first though.

Also no one will pay your medical bills because no one is going to work in hospitals and clean up shit and put up with crazy old ladies and druggies.

So we will have to send you to a city hospital far away and no one will care about your lazy ass and pay for that because hospitals will be super expensive since no one has to work.

>>128837927
because this "person" you described is a worthless sack of shit, who should be sent to a workcamp

also, NO socialist policies work in states that have non-whites with them, so we can talk about this when the west gets rid of all genetic trash like you, chang

>>128837927
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDkHLPanjkQ

>>128845223
Try me

>>128837927
It's called Comunism

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>>128846897
No thanks, sorry for missing the meme

>>128837927
>oy, vote for me, Goy, I will increase your basic income by 10 percent!
>we just need 300k more refugees per year, but think about the UBI increasement, this is a good deal, Goyim!

>>128845925
>Fuck It'd be better if people just went around with a damn broom and swept the streets/sidewalks
As opposed to doing nothing? Yes.

>>128837927
I'll consider it if you can prove you've never had children and submit to sterilization.

>>128841556
He can do that now

>>128837927
We are in the middle of a war between Islam and Zion people get woke here and tell others
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

>>128837927
because it is a Jewish plot for global enslavement nigger

UBI is possible already and would help the economy by helping people to spend more (which isn't happening/all money goes to 1%/stocks/banks instead of regular people)

>>128848074
>Implying they'd get to choose

>>128846913
>Live on universal income alone
>can't afford going out to eat, can't afford going to the movies, can't afford anything except staying alive

>Work in the hospital
>Make mad bank, can afford whatever you want

Gee I wonder what most people would pick

>>128837927
Because I don't want to work to fund your leisure, asshole. I pay enough tax in cuckville already.

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>>128837927
>Who's going to pay for it?
Every argument you can possibly raise: BTFO

I wouldn't expect a leaf to understand, though.

>>128837927
Who pays the extra so everyone gets the extra though? money doesn't grow on trees so it has to come from somewhere.

If everyone gets more money than the things you buy or services you pay for will increase in price making you have less money in real terms.

>>128837927
Basic income should focus on the bare minimum to live. Food, Water, Clothes, Residence, Heating and maybe basic healthcare. That's all. If you want more go work.

>>128837927
I don't care what you need.

>>128849224
>Who pays the extra so everyone gets the extra though?
Get rid of forced inflation and tax business stockpiles of money and held money instead.

>>128848210

I think it's trying to portray the modern western socialist who doesn't realize that in any socialist country not working was considered a crime punishable with jail time.

>smoking weed
you must be 18 or older to post here

>>128850184
That is the same age you need to be to buy weed.

>>128850240
surely that has prevented underage posters like you from smoking it

>>128850067
Wish they'd start clarifying that, or just come up with a different word for them.

>>128842813
>Nobody against things like a wage hike or UBI understands that there's flat out not enough jobs left

This I used to believe all this shit about if you want to then you can find a job and support yourself. Then I became an adult and realized how hard we've fucked ourselves as a nation. It's fucked up how politicians get to go on TV and brag about 5% unemmployment when the people who have been unemployed for more than 6 months don't even count.

I haven't had a regular job in years. I keep food in my mouth by doing odd jobs. My last one was moving furniture. I woke up the next day with an awful pain in my back thinking "This is good pain. Damn I wish they had more furniture so I could make another hundred bucks."

You already give the nigs gibs for shitting out babies. Can a white man get some for not creating children he can't afford so he doesn't have to live in abandoned houses?

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>>128850035
>taxing productive people to provice basic income for nonproductive people
This is a redistribution of wealth. This is socialism. You can only make UBI work by stealing-- it's simply a universal welfare system and businesses have to pay for it (which will kill small businesses much faster)
This is without mentioning that thepeople who run the businesses will also recieve UBI, meaning you're literally giving them money just to tax it back.

>>128837927
>toilet

Greedy faggot. Just designate a street.

>>128850318
Surely that means they are the only ones who do it and legal weed doesn't sell.

>>128841967
>Seppo REKT

>>128850747
No the productive people are already losing their wealth to inflation, this would just redirect something lost to something useful.

>>128837927
>Why are you against universal basic income?

Because someone has to pay for it?

Socialism is always cool until you run out of other peoples' money.

you need a brain fucking dickhead

>>128838145
Hahahahahahahaha

You can grow your own weed. Better if you could do it outside and utilize nature.

how can you take part in something that does not exist?

>>128837927
because other people want more and they don't want to give you anything

>>128838145
>he needs lotion to masturbate

>>128844494
>I do because I'm not a scrawny NEET who does nothing but jack off and eat baby fucking carrots.
fucking faggot you don't even have buried treasure, what the fuck kind of life is so boring that you lead that you can trust your booty with Jews matey. seriously live a little get a chest full of gold, ammo, gems, and more gold. Bury it. Map it. repeat.

>>128849224
I told you guys earlier in this thread. Taxes and savings made from not having to pay and process any gibs will pay for it. It's actually quite easy, how do you think the government can afford anything?

>>128837927
What is gonna happen once automation becomes more common?

a lot of people will be without work, what are they supposed to do?

>>128850938
>weed video games junk food
>something more useful

Choose one or kys

>>128851395
Don't kid yourself, it's going to be at least 1000 years until we can't make up shit for people to work with. The IT industry is really hurting for people right now, and so is the care taking industry. We're a long way from being able to completely automate away the tasks of caretaking and programming

>>128850943
People always say someone has to pay for it but our money is noting but paper, the shit literally grows on trees... we could get rid of the federal reserve bullshit and have a national currency that is issued through a UBI and then have other jobs on top of that for people who want more than you can get with the UBI. as long as they don't make other work illegal or some other stupid shit to make people dependent on the UBI it could probably work.

>>128850747
>stealing
Again, they can't steal what didn't belong to you in the first place.

>>128841118
there's no work to be had because everything's getting automated so it stands to reason that all of society should benefit from things becoming easier

>>128851521
>The IT industry is really hurting for people right now

This

I'm in IT, helpdesk moving onto a more network administration orientated role and if I left my job tomorrow, I could start somewhere else next week. The pay for level 1/2 helpdesk roles have increase to roughly 5k extra per year in Australia over the past 12 months

>>128851750
You realize the dollar has a value attached to it which is what makes it desirable, right? Getting rid of the reserve is about the only realistic thing you posted. If there is so much 'currency' that you can hand it out like candy, it's worthless and nobody will need or want it.
>>128852048
Is your labor worth nothing? You can always take your paycheck and donate to the closest federal institution, you know. Or are you just a hypocrite?

>>128851435
Millions of jobs and hundreds of thousands of hours of entertainment is pretty useful.

Junk food is already subsidized anyway and if it weren't consumed it would just be trash.

>>128837927
You live like a dog

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>>128839920
kek, also this

>>128837927
What a miserable existence. You are contributing nothing to the world.

>>128852400
They're not taxing your labor they're taxing what you chose to sell your labor for.
Your reasoning about the worth of currency is based on it being valuated by the free market. Where stores will hike their prices up, purely because they can get away with it since people have more spending money.

>>128837927
Why are you against living fight club style if thats all you need?

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>>128837927
FUCK OFF JAHANS

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If you support universal income the subtext that you are telling everyone is: 'I don't want to work'.

>Girl I went ton high school with just posted this
>She was a former suicide girl (no I don't have the source, I saw the set once and was proper grossed out by it)
>Is too scared to leave the house but posts on facebook daily
>Mostly about her witchcraft stuff like the wand she just made or leaving her crystals out in the moonlight to charge

This is the sort of person that would actually benefit from universal income.

>>128850684
There's millions of jobs looking to be filled at any given time. There aren't enough intelligent, motivated and productive people to fill them.

>>128839920
Based

>>128854015
No you don't. Introducing universal income will save the government a lot of money since you won't have to process and administer gibs anymore.

Retards like you think universal income means that people will stop working, while the reality is that it's just going to replace all gibs in addition to make it easier for people to start their own businesses.

In most countries today, there are programs set in place to keep people from starving to death. Universal income would make all such programs obsolete

>>128837927
some of us have ambitions other than being a weeabo faggot

/pol/ doesn't support UBI because they have a very simplistic world view where every form of social welfare is considered "gibs" and "free shit." So they don't consider the possibility that UBI will pay for itself in the form of reducing social evils like crime and drug addiction, which otherwise put stress on the welfare state, as well as being easy as fuck to administrate therefore eliminating government bloat in the form of welfare departments.

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>>128837927
You're out of your element Donnie!

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>>128837927
Much more to life than pic related anon

>>128837927
>Why are you against universal basic income?

it's wrong morally, the people are owed a dividend for corporate use of the commons,

so why should we ask that government give us something that is owed, universal basic income sets the wrong tone for us as a nation of productive people

we need instead, a dividend paid to the US citizenry for commercial use of the commons

like Alaska has

>>128854922
>social welfare is considered "gibs" and "free shit."

but they're right, why should you ask for a handout when you are owed

is that how you collect a debt?

>>128855214
Are you also against programs to help the poor and to keep people from starving?

>>128837927
slaving away all the riches of a nation, for a shitty gibs

yes, let automation rule for the jews, you are so worthless, that not even for being a slave you serve, they just pay you for not doing nothing and not revolt now

cgtz faggot, technology now found a way to make a nation productive enough to suborn your worthless ass not to starve to death, while the jews appropriate your entire productive force that is fully automated and now it create riches for them

this tech could set a nation free for it's own people

UBI is only good if NATIONALISM is involved

>>128837927
You don't need weed faggot

>>128854015
I'd have to say that universal income would help bring us a step closer to self reliance

-No welfare system + administration
-No exploitation of a welfare system
-Those born with critical, life altering and expensive treatment will die
-Those who don't save their UBI accordingly, and wind up in financial trouble will bring it upon themselves.
-It's an incentive for people to save their money, and to not give birth to those with severe birth defects.

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>>128837927
My college tuition cost around 3000 for my first year, books cost me 200 I'm constantly tired everyday. All for the purpose of learning something that will still require experice in the end and my goal is just to live a comfy life, why is life a grind bros.

>>128854796
>In most countries today, there are programs set in place to keep people from starving to death
It's called welfare, only present in first world countries, and is given primarily to invaders. UBI will increase welfare spending twenty times if it's to be truly universal and it will attract even more migrants and parasites.
Here's the million dollar question again though: who is going to pay for it?

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>>128840923
well memed friend

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Fuck off you jew socialist

>>128841532
Really nigger? Look it's a fantasy but we can AFFORD anything. We put trillions into black budget projects yearly.

>>128842170
Fuel the ovens

>>128856254
>24 quintillion in debt
>we can afford anything
Solid meme

>>128842170
die, its called evolution

>>128855331

He's saying that profit is made by use of resources that belong to the citizens as a whole and that if a proper portion of that profit were returned to the people in compensation for that use there would be no poor to help.

Pretty much he wants basic income but under a different name.

i would have no problem with UBI if all other federal waste was cut out and it came with a job, maybe something like the conservation corps or something, the only good thing FDR implemented.

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>>128840503

>>128841967
>Marked by the jew
Its like rabbis are meant to do it for beings so stupid like cattle but for burgers.

>>128856347
The real red pill is that hunger, shelter, and basic poverty could be solved at present day.

It's kept this way by (they) to keep the mind from wandering.

>>128837927
UBC doesn't even work on paper as a theory.
Great idea

>>128839920
>one folk
not really into that kind of music

>>128855664
Because you live in a soceity where fucking college tuition is a thing. You really should rise up and fix your country

>>128857406
>you live in a country where college tuition is a thing
Oh shit hahaha
Make way for mohammed, he's getting his phd from denmark hahaha
No wonder you don't mind the taxes, you're not even contributing , are you?

>>128857742
Education should be free. It has been proven that the more educated a soceity is, the more do people contribute and the less violence you get. Why do you think the refugees cause so much problems?

I make around 100k$ a year and I pay around 35% of that in taxes, which is slightly over average here in Norway

>>128843110
>"which the government can quite literally take back from you if you don't use it as you should"
>why can't I get wasted run down 30 people then crash into a telephone pole without THE GUBMINT violating MUH FREEDUMS reeeeeeeee

fuck this is why nobody takes ancapfags seriously

>>128837927
Work sets you free. All you need is a bullet to the head actually.

UBI will create two classes of people
>those who succeed in the free market
>those who use UBI to live and just work part time to supplement, and never really accomplish anything

I just can't figure out what UBI will do to the sexual market. The men in the first category will be highly attractive to all the similar women as well as the UBI/part time work women. Pareto will take efffect, but what if UBI causes the incel class to grow exponentially? Well, that would weed them out of the gene pool and reduce the population. My fear with this is that these non-breeders will be all white guys, as minorities will continue to cum in brown bitches like they always do.

So I'm leaning towards UBI is the final scam to get rid of white people.

>>128837927
get a job retard

>>128837927
If that's the life you're living, all you really need is 9x19 applied directly to forehead

>>128845528
t. nigger

>>128838145
Cutfag jew boy

>>128842368
cheeky bugga

>>128858351
Indeed, more people can take part in the government indoctrination camps if they make it totally free

>>128838145
Why would a man ever need hand lotion?

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>>128860216

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the overall productivity loss easily outweighs any potential safety net-free suffering 100:1

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The NIT is where only a poor person who was left without a job because the modern job crises receives $20,000 a comfortable living because they were in need.

The UBI is where millionaires and billionaires like mark cuckstain receive $5000 in their mailbox and the poor cant afford shit because its ""universal"" and had to pay for everyone rather than targeting the people who were screwed over by the automated economy.

>>128837927
>bus pass

insane city person detected

>>128837927
Universial basic income denies the idea of not being bound onto money value which is the cause of all evil in this world.
No thanks

>>128840240
Because that's MY tax money that I could be pumping back into the economy. Kys NEET

>>128860496
i dont get the pic

whats wrong with bernie!

>>128842704
you already are paying to support premium life styles of people that are much more wealthier than you, why is it such a butt hurt when you pay less for people who are simply trying to get by?

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All I need is the extermination of the poor people that are too useless to even work entry jobs

>>128839920
Based

>>128837927
Because the jews are against it "muh free market" and anons buy the propaganda about capitalism

>>128843455
%75 of the population already doing bullshit jobs and watching /doing moron grade shit to entertain themselves, this is just another industrial revolution phase, people will get culled one way or the other, keep living the life you choose to live instead of being butthurt of others

>>128840503
open your borders and make your women racemix with somalis

>>128837927

because you have to earn those things like the rest of us

>>128837927 (OP)
Because the jews are against it "muh free market" and anons buy the propaganda about capitalism

>>128845925
some people would rather do primitive shit instead of living in your shity cities and contributing your shity lives as you please

>>128837927
actually all you really need is food and water

the rest of that is just modern bullshit. diogenes would shit on you for this post

>>128864089
diogenes is really cool

>>128852551
Things that never happened.

>>128839920
i'm not!!

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>>128862931
>>128863977

>>128841207
>>Not wanting to
>>OWN your own house
The bank or county gov. owns it. Not you. skip a mortgage payment or forget to pay your property tax and see what happens.
>>OWN your own land
See above
>>OWN your own car
That is useful sometimes, not so much if you don't have to go to work.
>>OWN your own clothes
fashion fag. whats trending now?
>>OWN your own phone
So telemarketers can solicit you and sell you apps.

>>128852551
Reading this, if you believe that this actually happened you have to be retarded holy shit

idk, i don't ever remember bitching about taxes and I'm poor. surely some of these companies can pitch in?

>>128841025
>big strong independent white man here hate niggers and leeches
>doesn't pay taxes
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

>>128865040
If you think your tax dollars are spent to improve life in the States you are also a fucking retard.

>>128843197
>There's enough at least for now

That should be the fucking socialist catchphrase.

>>128865205
no all this stuff just magically happens.

>>128838145
Oy Vey!

>>128839920
This.

>>128864786
why are you denying the holocaust?

economic cuckery

>>128865392
Yes, they need to justify the tax system somehow.
The amount of money the gov. spends on their lunches and travels and whatever other bullshit is absolutely crazy though.

>>128865841
yeah, but nothing to do about it.

Would you guys be okay with universal income for those that took a drug test and passed?

>>128837927
>Why are you against universal basic income?
It won't work. There will still be exceptions for minorities, single mother, disabled and homeless. I don't want to pay a 39% effective tax rate for that. Even if i get that money back in ubi what the hell is the point and where is the money coming from to support it?

>>128865205
I am going to beat you with a heavy rock Encino Man shut the fuck up

>>128866031
i don't think the math works anyway?

>>128858839
nice strawman

>Why can't I drive at 85mph down a stretch of straight road and refuse to give up my license without getting my car towed and impounded after getting a bench warrant

>>128837927
Getting payed by government would lead to a new age of control over masses. It would be a lever for controlling ideas and restricting free though. PC ideology would be enforced much easily if people forfeit their economical freedom. Most of political rights now are backed by paying taxes.

>>128837927
On one single condition. You get a vasectomy first. And we're offering free skydiving lessons every weekend, if you want to join. We'll give you an extra $10 if you do.

>>128837927
>internet and computer
>weed
tfw world is run by internet and weed companies (warlords) because only them have disposable income

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>>128854015
>leaving her crystals out to charge

Damn, how do I get me a qtpie witch wife

>>128837927
You
Run
Out
Of
Other
Peoples
Money

>>128839901

Best response in this thread

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>>128837927
the last thing I want is for my tax dollars to subsidize a useless leaf NEET

>>128837927
>283 posts
>1 post by this ID

>>128839920
based hungarians.

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>>128860250
To masturbate if jews have sold your baby foreskin

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>>128842746
post the original

>>128837927
>>internet and computer
>>weed
>>bed
>>toilet
>>bus pass
>>$50 a month for leisure
you don't 'need' any of that.

>>128871027
best part is that men die early and only majority of women live long enough to get pension

>>128837927
>>internet and computer
>>weed
>>$50 a month for leisure

Nope.

>bed
>food
>toilet
>bus pass
>ID

Reasonable.

>>128837927
So you want welfare for low IQ population, high IQ neet/autists and for the elderly. FUCK OFF!

I already have it.

>>128840969
Because humans turn into deviants without work. You want to live like a nigger? Go ahead. I won't.

>>128837927
No incitment to work if you can shitpost and get high all day.

>>128838145
>Lotion
For your manpussy?

>>128837927
Who's paying?

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>>128838145
ahahahahah GET KIKED

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>>128837927

You are going to have to close your borders completely to prevent the massive influx of foreigners flooding in to milk your system with their 9 kids.

You are going to have special low income neighborhoods that will be avioded like the plague by working citizens. This areas will be crime and drug infested shit holes.

Prices of basic goods and food will rise and negate the rise in income do to the natural inflation of everyone having goverment supplied free money.

>>128838145
You made me choke on my cigarette

>>128873911
BASED JEW

>>128872874

Men die early because they eat shit food, drink booze constantly and don't exercise. At least in this country they do.

>>128837927
It may work in tiny countries where their economy could support it.

>>128856550
>Pretty much he wants basic income but under a different name.

right, the way it's phrased is to give impression the government is the origin of resources when in fact it is the citizen who is the origin of value

government creating handout programs only weakens people who should be encouraged to gather and coordinate with their local community to provide for the needs of that community

what kind of society tells you not to try?

apparently a liberal democrat one

>>128837927
Maybe for you, but a majority of people would get bored and get into trouble. Work is necessary to keep people occupied as a sort of energy sink - without it, you'd find most people are degenerate and greedy and society goes to hell more so than it is already.

>>128842170
Figure it out or starve to death.

>>128837927
Who pays for it? Fucking deadbeat.
Even "The Dude" made his money from writing some shit.