How long till European countries have civil war?

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>>128833751
there won't be any civil war
France, Germany and eveything between them will keep being more and more islamic
when they reach critical point and attack either Spain or Poland, we will kill them all and retake Constantinople, ending muslims once and for all
also Trump/Putin will nuke mecca at that point

>>128833923
Trump is a Total Saudi lover though

>>128833923

Pretty much this. War, especially civil war, takes balls and you will find them in very short supply on the European continent these days.

>>128834120
I still believe in him
he supports Poland and all honest, hard working people over saudis and kikes and germans, who are the worst

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>>128833751

>>128833923
I hope I'm not too old to fight when the time comes

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>>128834243
He doesn't give a shit about you. ;-;
I care about you

What is Jerusalem worth?

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>>128834414
it will happen again soon
this time we shall make biggest armoured cavalry charge with tanks
last time we got rugs, cofee and camels out of it
pity there won't be any spoils of war this time

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>>128834571
A nuke.

>>128834243
Don't generalize asshole. I was born in Germany near the Polish/German border. Now living in the US. I think Germans near the polish border are more based than the germans closer to the french border. :P I think it's in our DNA to resist.

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>>128834571
it is earth that Jesus walked on
divine benefits are not good enough for you?
>>128834511
>He doesn't give a shit about you
even so, our interests align

>>128834686

>it's in our DNA to resist.

Is that why you left to come to America?

>>128834225
I like it when the creators of the beta meme judge the amount of "balls" other nations have.

>>128834784
newp, my parents had enough of Europe. Like the Europeans before us that left for America. Meaning... YOUR GRAND GRANDPARENTS assuming you're not asian, black or middle eastern :D

>>128833751
When Merkel orders independent European armies to disband in favor of her EU army.

become pagan white man

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>>128834934
your emoticons show that you are inferior
I've had enough of this thread
goodbye

>>128833751
It's starting to look like Europeans are so cucked that they will simply fade out of existence.

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I predict there is gonna be an exodus of white europeans that will flock to the US. The last truly white place in the world. Well, except a few niggers, spics and chinks in the big cities... but most of America is pretty much still white. Unfortunately though whites have lost the major cities. There no longer is a single city where the majority is white. Tokyo still has a majority of japanese or asians, the middle eastern cities still have a majority of muslims, African cities a majority of blacks, latin America's cities still have a majority of latinos... only whites... whites are targeted. Or can you name any metropolitan area in the world, any city that is still mostly white? Well maybe Moscow.... but that's about it.

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>>128833751
I dont know how the war will be fought, but i do know who is waiting eagerly for such an event

>>128834225
I bet that's never been said before. I bet Muslims didn't say that exact same thing a thousand years ago. Etc.

Should whites do as muslims, niggers and chinks do? Why don't white people move to the middle east, why don't white people move to Africa? Why don't white people move to Asia? Oh, that's right, I forgot... because they are shitholes compared to what white people created.

>>128835397
>US
>The last truly white place in the world
>52%

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>>128833923
>Trump will nuke mecca
Hello Rebbit

>>128833751
2/3 years

>>128835143
yuck, who's that in the picture? He looks like the ultimate jew.

>>128833751
They don't need to fight a war when you retards let them enter and take over whole cities willingly.

How are they going to have a civil war? They don't have guns.

>>128833751
just wait for a real war, economic crisis, 9/11 tier event

shit will pop off quick

>>128833923
You realize they will have inherited France's nuclear weapons by then?

>>128833751
When they realize they are imperiled Europeans will truly engage.
Until then it's just a slow boiling of a frog.
Whites, on a net level, are intelligent.
Even Piers Morgan is starting to notice that something is afoot.
This isn't a time-line issue.
It's a psychological issue.
You cannot solve a problem you refuse to acknowledge.
They have yet to acknowledge that there is a problem.
Until then more will die.

>>128833923
Pretty much this, except for the "Poland doing shit" part.
Western Europe is getting Islam'd just the way formerly Christian or heathen countries in Arabia and Africa did.

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>>128837074
This. Many thousands will die before any war starts. I'd wager there is less than 10 years to wait, maybe 5.

Elements that need to be in place first:

9/11 Tier loss of human life
Legitimate Pro-European political parties
Destruction of priceless cultural artifacts
Significant anti-immigrant media pressure
Arming of civilian population

Last one will be the most difficult to achieve.

>>128833751
It's already a low level insurgency, there's attacks every other day now

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>>128833923

so in the next 3-8 years?

>>128837228
Wrong. Africa and Asia were islam'd by war, conquest and massive suppression of native cultures and religions.

Europe is to this point being invaded, but there is no resistance physically. The Muslims aren't destroying everything yet. It is a very different situation.

>>128837723
10 years tops. I wager 2019 or 2020 but who knows

Hey Poland, let's repeat Grunwald battle

>>128837843
The physical resistance will come, but only when it's too late.

>>128833751
Recently bought a new helmet and gauntlets. I'm good to go.

>>128834120
Gotta sell guns and keep the petrodollar floating. Basic job requirements for any US president.

I hope he will turn however.

>>128838184
>too late
Europeans are truly bigger pussies than I even imagined. Why aren't you doing anything? Too afraid of death?

>>128838438
Decades of brainwashing.

>>128838205
Good man. Get a longsword and ballistic armor too, you'll need it when the fighting starts

>>128837604
How can we get weapons into Europe to arm the people though? Through the east?

>>128838480
You didn't answer my question. Why aren't YOU doing anything? Assuming you have intelligence and courage, you should have every capacity to figure out ways to undermine, subvert, sabotage and combat your occupiers and invaders. You have no excuse for inaction once you are aware of the situation.

>>128833751
> You will never be a leper.
Kill me now.

>>128838748
Trans-atlantic smuggling operation is needed.
Obviously ships are more reliable than planes, I don't know specifics, but i'd guess Norway would be the best entrance point, being outside the EU.

>>128838808
Doing my best by being openly anti Islam, sneaking in the red pills and of course not partaking in filthy Muslim bezness like buying stolen trash or putting money into their Kebab money laundering outposts.
I can't just go full Australian and punch random Musloids in the face, I don't see how me being in jail would be a more positive contribution to what I am doing now.

>>128833751
Can I come to Pattaya and pull you off?

>>128833923
I will go myself to aid europa

if i am too old, i will be sending my sons and any sort of aid

>>128839035
Iceland is a good waypoint, too. What about Poland/the Baltic states? Direct access to Germany from there.

>>128839283
Iceland is even more sheltered and peaceful than Sweden. When the Muslims arrive there they will be gone in no time.

>>128839283
control of the straits would need to be secured, assuming that Denmark or Sweden can last long enough

>>128839084
Fair effort, but I challenge you to go a step farther and start collecting a group of trusted redpilled friends and training together, collecting various legally obtainable weapons and armors, perhaps investing in a rural property to use as a base of operations/ refuge for your families. Build and collect everything you would need for the worst case scenarios, use your head.

>>128833923
Why is there a picture of Milo on that banner?

>>128839357
That's why we have to fortify it first; it's a perfect forward base to support arms supplies

>>128834571
Nothing... Everything.

>>128839377
If we could secure Zealand and Kronborg, and then destroy the Oresund bridge and firebomb Malmoistan, that would do it

>>128839283
>>128839377
Perhaps directly shipping to a Polish contact would be the best. Avoiding customs and storing weapons in secure locations is another issue, perhaps take some lessons from the mistakes and successes of drug smugglers.

I'm also assuming NH is the best state in the US for operations to leave from given their weapon fetish. Coordination between Europe and the USA is key. This needs to happen ASAP, before naval vessels are actively preventing it.

>>128839857
NH is the best state on the eastern seaboard, but it only has one real port, and it's right next to Boston. NH could send overland to Maine though, which has a lot of coast and is the whitest state in the union

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>>128834571
Bout' tree fiddy

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>>128833751
How do you sue a car for its incompetence and bad roads?

>>128833923
Nice LARP, idiot. It's not about ISLAM. It's about SUBHUMAN NON-WHITE I M M I G R A N T S

>>128835433
Baltics - predominantly atheist
Have state sponsored NatSoc commemorating parades
Locals hunt down Med, niggers and other subhuman tourists for sports

SMART racist Whites reject the kike poison.

Christian = low iq (98/100 times non-white) subhuman

Fuck jesus, Heil Hitler!

>>128838748
Czechia has weapon industry and quite liberal gun policies. Hungarian government wants to introduce firearm training to high schools and create more civilian shooting ranges. Afaik Poles want to do the same. Both of our countries have very strict gun laws though and the number of guns in civilian hands are very low, but that always changes if shit hits the fan (we supplied Croats with guns against the Serbs in the 90es for example). The bigger problem is the general aversion towards guns in most European countries

>>128833751
Its not civil war if you are fighting an invading foreign enemy. When the goths sacked Rome that wasn't a civil war.

>>128833751
I'm hoping soon. I'm ready.

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>>128833923
This, there will be no revolution in germany or france. But in sweden the chance is geting pretty high actually.

>>128840905
Lithuanians are quite religious afaik. Latvians and Estonians are meme nations and their paganistic and Nazi LARPing is just compensating for their lack of history and their made-up national identity.

>>128841273
Germans are Swedes are too conformistic for a proper revolution and the Nazi meme could be used to turn the populace against any efforts like that. You shouldn't underestimate Germanic adherence to the rules.

My bets would be on France.

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>>128838438
>until it happens in your country

we should realy get a name for this calling other cucks until it happens in your own nation and you do nothing. It's hard to do anything what should you do? Run down with an axe and get killed and set the election for the pro imegration party? We need to cut of the poison first, in our case it's the jews that controll all the information books, tv, speach and news. That's the goal and what we organise for, to give people the correct picture.

>>128841636
France is pretty split too. If I remember right, only the eastern half has been enriched. Holding Nantes/Bordeaux/Normandy would allow us to help the rebels more easily. I have some hope for Denmark too

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>>128841636
We are north germanic and as swedes we are actually very culturally diffrent from germans, we have our own culture in the north. Also anti natsoc jew tier propaganda dosen't work in sweden anymore, sweden probably have progressed furthest in the state of the revolution and opening the minds for new ideas.

Dunno, but I am preparing. Working out and conditioning myself daily, hiking, learning to move through all kinds of wild terrain efficiently. Got plenty of cold weapons too. Would also like to get a firearm since it's inevitable, but kind of hard here. I hope my Hungarian neighbors will supply us again when needed

>>128841861
>>128841636
It won't happen in france. If you controll paris you controll france. Some small town that never gets any imegrants won't think it's worth to start a revolution with their fists and where most in the village is over 40 to save paris from imegrants. No the minds of the cucks in paris need to change

We just need to remember if the revolution hit somewhere we must flood there to help. It's our duty as nationalists

>>128841294
>Lithuanians are quite religious afaik
It's the gypsy hunnic subhuman that never left his shithole talks nonsense episode
>>128841636
>France
Literally 1/3 of the "ethnic French" are mixed with Catalans or Italians (aka they are part negro now). Good riddance. Balkanisation is the only solution for them
>>128841902
I agree

>>128834225
True gut is only revealed when the time comes. A militiaman who had trained his whole life may shirk when he has a gun pointed at him or he has pointed the gun, and a man who had been a meek man and rarely aggressive may change to be the likes of a man like Trotsky

>>128842131
The problem with Paris is that the French there are surrounded by millions of africans, who will slaughter them if war breaks out. There are no arms in Paris, are there?

>>128842245
As long as its real non-Mediterranean non-Balkan Europe. Why would we waste Germanic and Baltic lives on Portuguese niggers or Serbian rats?

>>128842329
No division right now. They are counting on that to keep us from fighting back

>>128842245
Unless if the revoluiton starts in sweden I aint fighting for the eternal swede

>>128842329
It probably won't be a fight there for ethnic survival anyway

>>128841674
>I never called anyone a cuck

>Run down with an axe and get killed
This is literal nigger tier thinking Sven.
I'm not saying go commit acts of violence out of rage or hate. I'm saying that if I was in Europe, I would be actively undermining our enemies. Provoke Islamic violence to redpill your countrymen, subvert public forums, buy weapons and armor and prepare for the coming conflict. Create/join groups that train together, etc.

Start fighting back, use posters, video, social media and physical demonstrations to detail the irrational and traitorous nature of your government.

>>128842501
There is no unity to begin with
>>128842520
What do you mean?

>>128842505
*swedish caliphate declare war*
>it's swedish clay ogaboga it was swede 100s year

If you help us during our revolution it would probably consolidate your land forever

>>128842646
Well placed for victory too. The Swedes are evolved to survive in those ice mountains. See if they can't cut off vitamin D supplies for the muzzkies in the cities

>>128842654
What people are threatning the extinction of serbs?

>>128835397
America is the least white country in the western world, you kike brainwashed faggot.

>the Muslim menace will reach critical mass in Europe by the year 2023 and then the Russians will be called in to start the purge.

Euro fags and amerifats, whites, must come to South America you retards, if you want to escape we have nice weather and summer, and pretty much no real competition for your skills or business.
If you are going to run because of your omega balls, come here and try to make a living.
Well maybe you have epsilon balls when the earth starts moving so I think, you are another disappointment to your freedom fathers.
Uff what a nice shit post I gave to you.

>>128842329
Are you a Baltcuck or a Nordcuck? Or just a Russian with severe identity crisis?

>>128841902
You are quite similar to North Germans in a lot of things. Though they don't have this law of Jante cultural phenomenon afaik, which sounds quite dystopian to me desu.
If you manage to convince the majority of the people in a legal way, you might be able to get a right-wing Sweden, but I doubt a right-wing revolution would get any support as long as the state is functioning. If the police can't keep order, armed right-wing militas could easily gain the support of the population, but you need things to get worse quickly for that.
>>128842131
Paris isn't really French anymore.

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>>128842646
Many of us already do

>>128842910
America has almost 200 million whites still, and all of our minorities are separated out into their own areas. I met a black person only twice while growing up

>>128843222
Was he your dad?

>>128833751
>European countries
*western/northern europe
slavlands stronk

>>128843222
Murrica is the most big Latin country in the whole continent I think, almost 80 million spics.
Am I right? Or more? Maybe now you have like 100 million spics plus the niggers.
White genocide has really fuck you in the ass sempai.

>>128843306
lulz. Nope. Full-blooded English/Norwegian dating back to the Mayflower

Never, they're cucks.

>>128843055
Nah germans work diffrent. I could easily argue for a swede to be anti imegration and he would listen and question and in a few weekes he could be converted i would never be abale to do it with germans

>>128843151
Good work then. Start encouraging your countrymen investing in rural property as well, you'll need safe houses and bases for your families and foreign allies in the future.

>>128841636
The good news is that any revolt in France, Germany, Sweden, or any of the other small Germanic states would probably lead to armed conflict in the all of them
>Just hope my nation and Russia don't fuck them over.

>>128842905
10 octoroon American hookers is enough to kill off Serbia genetically in 200 years, if bred and allowed to stay. Armed resistance has one goal - NO NON-PURE WHITES ALLOWED EVER. Need diplomacy and shiet? Use skype

>>128843377
60 million. Yeah, we're being overrun by fat mestizos, but they are almost entirely congregated in the southwest. They've destroyed California, Arizona, and New Mexico, but haven't really infected many other places

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>>128843509
Also question: What donyou guys think, civil war in a Western European country by 2020, 2025, 2030, or 2040?

>>128833923
this will be the plot of starwars 56 a new god, at best. The future for entirely christian countries like Poland is grim.

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>>128836868
yes,but they will use missile silos as goat barns.

>>128843615
Before 2025.

>>128833751

I always said it would be in 250 years.

Basically the same length of time it took for Yugoslavia or Northern Ireland's demographic changes to lead to their late 20th century broo ha ha, but cut in half.

I think I was being too generous. It could be within one generation.

It will happen. Unless there is a peaceful transition to Sunni Islam. But I can't see other countries like China or even Israel being comfortable with Wahabi-tards having their fingers on the nuclear buttons in France or the U.K.

But yeah, give it a generation or so. When the Sunni numbers start to get around 30% of so in France/U.K.

Also, I'm assuming the Africans they're importing will be pulled into this maelstrom on the Sunni side. But who knows.

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>>128843740
I hope.
>8 years and a lot can change in 8 years

>>128833751

There was no civil war in South Africa. The blacks just slowly moved in and voted the whites out.

The same will happen here if we don't wake up soon.

>>128843615
I think that must be hand to hand with a economic crisis. 2027 June I think.

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>>128843615
2025 sweden. Set

>>128838748
During the reunification and the fall of the USSR 2 years later a shit ton of weapons got "lost" in East Germany. Most of that stuff got used in the wars in the Balkans but my guess is there are still a large amount of small arms hidden in the east.

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Also, the shift IS definitely coming.

You can feel it in the air. It feels like 9/11 again, only worse.

Did you see that concert they did for Manchester?

Those things are usually really motivational/moving/soothing. This one just felt utterly strange. Completely cowed and fake.

I mean, the images from outside are pretty telling.

>I don't have the one of the cute kid with the bunny ears inbetween the CT guys looking edgy as fuck.

>>128842910
>most diverse
>greatest strength
America YASSSSSSS

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>>128843835
>250 years
Lolwut m8?

>one generation
This is most likely. Gen Z in their 20s will be it. Oldest ones are already 20, so I'd say less than 10 years left.

>>128844277
That concert was completly degenrate

>>128833751
Never happening. I am willing to bet money on this, nobody today has the warrior spirit.

>>128843968
Although now we have South Africa as an example. The whites there were tricked into thinking the blacks wanted peace

>>128844608
Atleast not in canada that's for sure do you guys even have a national movment ?

>>128844658
>tricked by blacks
>the whole (((global community))) forced them

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>>128844608
>nobody today has a warrior spirit

>1 post by ID
>a fucking leaf

>>128838748
Maybe the south? We will need full control of the Mediterranean anyway

Anyway, Yugoslavia reached Civil War status when it got to about 10% Muslim (I think officially it was 8%, but in reality closer to 15%).

Northern Ireland needed to hit about 40% of each other.

With Yugoslavia there was obviously poverty + collapse of Soviet Union.

France is 15% muslim.

U.K. is about 5%

Obviously the attacks are larger and more frequent in France as a result.

But unless there is a collapse of the financial or governing systems in Western Europe and Britain, I don't think anything will happen. Even if they did collapse, the Muslim population has only been there for a relatively short time, less than a century. That might not be enough for them to want to declare independence or push for power etc if a collapse happened. It would also depend on outside players and what they want.

If the U.K. collapsed, say, and Saudi Arabia started pouring billions into changing London and other areas in to autonomous Islamic zones, that might prompt conflict.

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>>128843740
>>128843992
>>128844169
Mid 2020's it is then. I pretty much expect that too. Shit is getting so crazy and Muslim numbers are rising so fast. Just look at the world compared to 2010.

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Does anyone have studies on impact from terrorist attacks on public opinion?

>>128844703
Well yeah, that too. But de Klerk(last Afrikaner president) persuaded a lot of whites that everything would be okay, like how the American 1965 immigration act was passed

>>128843615
before 2020 please

>>128844863
>But unless there is a collapse of the financial or governing systems in Western Europe and Britain, I don't think anything will happen. Even if they did collapse, the Muslim population has only been there for a relatively short time, less than a century. That might not be enough for them to want to declare independence or push for power etc if a collapse happened. It would also depend on outside players and what they want.

THIS.

Until the economy hits a wall and hits it hard, nothing will change.

>>128844491

Well, other ethnic conflicts in the modern era were preceded by a few centuries of grumbling and varying levels of coexistence.

Many of the Muslims in Europe feel and ARE foreign. They might not have the same loyalty to the land.

There is also the question of acquiescence. Canada, Ireland have both introduced anti-Islam blasphemy laws. Maybe there will be some sort of bastardized degenerate Police Meets Halal State born of this.

>>128844863
I wish the English would wake up already. The capital itself is no longer ours.

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>>128844919
See
>>128844865
I bet around 2020 we will start to see the rumblings of one. Probably an extreme increase in police suppression and more visible, even if not in the media, autonomous Muslim governments.

>>128844911

After Thatcher was out, the Seff Afrikans basically had no choice. America fucked them into being destroyed. They also fucked Serbia, although the Serbs weren't exactly innocent in that mess.

The big question is how this goes for Israel.

>>128845094
We aren't as soft as people think we are. The Anglo-Saxon people will not submit.

>>128845016
>>128844863

If you have any understanding of the current global economy, a collapse on par but likely larger than 2008 is inevitable. It will happen.

>>128845086
The Lebanon route could be another possibility for Europe, since it went from ~80% christian to a civil war in just a few decades

>>128845086
Sweden also have it but for all religions except christianity

Why would muslims as a whole rise up and try to dominate these countries?

90% of them are on neet bux and rely on the state, they ain't going to do shit so long as they keep getting their neet bux.

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>it's another episode of americans collectively grabbing their own dicks and agreeing with eachother how Europe is shit

>>128845116
this we will go full police state in many countries soon

>>128845116

You can see it in the reaction of Theresa May. There is no intention to halt the steady progress of Islamification or suppress actual terrorism. But an insistence on stripping even more rights away from ordinary citizens.

I believe they think they can rule like the elites in third world countries.

My concern with that is that there has always been a first world release valve for these third world shit holes.

When the U.S. is Brazil and the U.K. Pakistan...Who steps in when things spiral out of control? Where do the wealthy flee to or seek protection and sanctuary from? Where exactly are they going to be able to keep their offshore accounts and who is going to insure them?

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>>128845231
Once Brexit is done and dusted by May I'm confident the British will go full fash and save the West.

>>128833751
>countries
>civil
what

>>128845362
neet bux are a finite resource. Economies will fail within 10 years.

>>128845291
>Until the economy hits a wall and hits it hard, nothing will change.

I work in finance. Trust me, we are completely fucked.

Its akin to a little kid at the swimming pool trying to hold a beach ball under water that keeps getting more air pumped into it.

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>>128845180
Why does the US always have to stick their nose in someone else their business?

>>128844863
>Anyway, Yugoslavia reached Civil War status when it got to about 10% Muslim (I think officially it was 8%, but in reality closer to 15%).
The start of the war had nothing to do with Muslims. Slovenian independence started it in 1991, which was a short and quite bloodless war, then the Croats decided to leave as well and things got bloody really quickly because of territorial claims. The Bosnian war started later, in 1992.

>>128845424
terrorism is a means to an end for shitheads like May

>>128845424
The elites don't think that far ahead. Ideally, their path is going to be straight to the guillotine for treason

>>128845508
Tell me more

>>128845319

Right, but see my later post - Lebanon had the benefit of having numerous stable, larger players in the mix. They also had an escape valve. Imagine if Lebanon didn't have that. I guess what I'm saying is imagine a situation like Lebanon or Syria, but with nowhere for refugees to flee to, and no U.N. stepping in to curtail one sides or box in the craziness.

What's going to happen to the top dogs then? Flee to China?

I mean, guys like Trudeau are obviously Chinese fifth columnists anyway, but it's still strange to think about.

>>128833751
when (((they))) think they can win

>>128845521
USA=Zion vassel state

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>>128845521

Because their happens to be quite a few big nosed people living here.

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>>128845362

What happens when the neet bux run out?

What happens when it's the countries that fund the IMF who go broke?

I don't think the Chinese and Japanese are going to step in to fill the vacancy.

>>128845367

Most Americans realize they're not far behind. Hell, there situation is potentially worse in some regards.

>>128843992
I also believe this.

>>128845434
They will deliver, unless they crack down on us. If they crack down on us with a police state which seems to be in the works, thats indication that they are scared and fear us. And believe me, they should be. People call the English soft and weak because we've let terrorists attack us and even attack our children in places such as Rotherham. They have absolutely no idea what awaits them when they finally push us over the edge. Not even the military will be able to stop an angry mob of Englishmen.

>>128845291
This also. It's a race between the state and the people. Will they pass enough laws and shift the public opinion enough with the anti-terror agenda to severly limit the internet and phone communication. This is the question who wins. They are already massing agenst the internet. In germany facebook get fines of 100thousand dollar for """"fake""""" news. jewgle is changing their search engine. The battle is escelating

>>128845530

Yeah, that's why it's hard to really use it as a good tool, same with Northern Ireland. The Muslims in Western Europe are new. The Protestants in Northern Ireland or the Muslims in Yugoslavia had centuries old claims to land.

So it's hard to say if a Pakistani is really going to chimp out and get himself killed trying to claim Ealing or Hackney.

A lot of them don't even feel European themselves, which is part of the problem.

I think they'd need to be directed from outside. By someone like Turkey.

>>128833751

soon

remember this ?

https://youtu.be/qQC9AQpC-MA

If any of you think there will be any kind of war, then you're an overly optimistic fool.

Much like Amerisharts, whites in Europe will slowly but surely be outbred. And the normies will eagerly await it.

>>128845554

The only way we can keep money circulating in the macro-economy is to make the return of capital more than the cost of capital.

When incurring new debt/equity costs more than not incurring it, governments, enterprises will quit financially expanding and just meet the bills. Thus, the cost of capital has to shrink at a rate faster than real returns.

The problem is in most ofthe world centrally-planned interest rates are already at zero, close to it, or in the case of Rainbowland negative.

But these super low interest rates cause asset bubbles measured in the currency said interest rates are measured in, fucking everywhere.

As asset prices skyrocket more and more and more people/companies/governments/entities are priced out of the market, thus reducing supply and lowering the real rate of return, thus putting additional downward pressure on the cost of capital necessary to keep these bubbles inflating.

Its a classic ponzi-scheme backed by the full faith and credit of the US military and (((THEM))).

>>128845725
the US is a fucking nightmare but we have so much habitable land that we can just constantly move away when the shitskins move in
Europeans don't have that ability.

>>128845362
They already riot constantly in sweden with neet bux, the economic crash will bring something completly new. The naive open borders swedes will probably die out in this era if it gets worse enough

>>128843222
Where the fuck did you live Alaska?

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>>128845922

Somewhat true of Australia and NZ too.

Melbourne and Sydney are fucked, hell maybe one day Brisbane or Perth too.

But then you look at say pic related - Island the size of England. Population of about half a mil.

Likewise, you can just throw a dart at empty space between Sydney and Brisbane, or Sydney and Melbourne.

The entire West, South and North of the country are basically just unused. For now.

>>128845881

This is why I always lol at fucking lefty retards bitching about the U.S. military.

Without the U.S. military effectively telling people to keep playing the game, or making it impossible for someone like China to cash in their chips on them, the whole system is going to go down the toilet.

People seem to forget there is no Gold or fairy godmother backing the global reserve currency and debt. Just the word of the U.S.

>>128845782
I really hope the English Boudicca-style retake London

>>128844863

15% is nowhere near enough for civil war.
You shouldn't look at the whole of Yugoslavia, but at Bosnia.
There aren't such large regions in France with a Muslim majority. It's just some neighbourhoods in big cities spread out over the country.
In Lebanon they waited until they were over 50%.
No matter how much you want it anon, there will be no civil war anytime soon. Stop being like a leftist and expect that reality conforms to how you wish the world to be.

>>128842646
>Provoke Islamic violence to redpill your countrymen
isnt this something you go to jail for in Sweden ?

>>128845881
It's a debt run system it's designed to fail so the banks can buy cheap. It's a reason why 6 big banks own the world

>>128845881
Mein Gott... What would be your time estimate until the bubble bursts?

The best way for a normal person would be to invest in gold right? In times of crisis the price always rises.

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>>128833751

already having civil wars. Spain, Portugal, Germany, France, Sweden, Italy are actually living in "looming" civil war. they just drop billions at problems so it doesnt go hot and instead only looms quiet and low as a war on terrorism. i would even say that most countries which have an US army unit on own soil are in constant civil war situation.

>>128846259
nevermind i read provoke violence against islam

it might be a possibility in 20-30 years, but that is a worst case scenario, it's really not that believable in spite of how pol talks

>>128846015
Rural western Washington

>>128846259

Encouraging Muslims to express their culture isn't illegal in Sweden. Quite the opposite.

>>128833923
>underage the post

>>128846219

Correct. Without the threat of "Look what we did to Saddam/Ghadaffi/Assad/Houthis" etc., etc., we couldn't keep this going.

Its why what is going on in Qatar is so important, if SHTF there and the SRF is overthrown and someone takes their place who don't require USD ... all bets are off.

Scary scenario is when the USD loses its petro-dollar status -- the banks don't fail -- and all those $4 Trillion in USD that are parked outside the US come flooding back in as foreigners dump USD to purchase anything and everything tangible that isn't nailed down before the value of their USD reserves go to zero.

What does that mean for the population -- You're talking a whole different level of hyper-inflation beyond Weimar Germany, something akin to Hungarian inflation from 1945-1946. Prices doubling every 20 minutes.

The US would become a financial leaper colony seemingly overnight. I think they'd kill the banking system to prevent that from happening, as it would preserve the spending power of the USD keeping the .gov solvent by throwing all American individuals, companies, charities, institutions, states, municipalities under the bus.

It would be the bankruptcy of everyone except the US gov, and then they'd only retain their solvency by printing but the first deflationary shock would be so massive, half the population would be dead in 6 months anyhow.

>>128846390
Wake up. How can't you feel it?

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>>128846507

>>128845725
>Most Americans realize they're not far behind.
Sure they do, just read what the american replied to you. They're blinded by their own egos and incapability of admitting that they're far worse than we are. This has been happening in every such thread for as long as /int/ has had flags. The insecurity of the average american from being eclipsed by Europe is actually mindblowing - they will 180 on all their views just to prove that america is "better than europe".

Here's a prediction - in a year or two, most americans on /pol/ will be anti-natsoc and pro-diversity. Why? Because being against diversity contradicts their country's strategy and includes admitting that their country is shit and doomed, something that americans' egos are incapable of admitting

>>128846257

If you read my posts you'd see I was predicting it would be CENTURIES away, but if sooner it would still be a couple of generations hitting peak age.

Also, you have to take in migratory patterns and breeding.

40 years ago Britain was essentially 99% white. It had a birth rate of about 3 kids per lady.

The white birthrate is now below replacement. The Muslim birthrate is at about that 3 kids per number. The percentages are going to shift A LOT faster than they previously have in history.

Which is a new and interesting thing to observe.

>>128845881

I'd be heavy in physical previous metals, gold, silver and I'd get yourself a nice house in the mittle of nowhere MeckPom or Sachsen. Somewhere far away from large population centers and as far away from the Muzzies in NRW and as far away from the Königsberg - Warsaw - Berlin triangle.

Such properties can be hand now for less than 10k. Then have a plan to get there before a full-on panic sets in.

>>128846574
they're not weaponised enough and there aren't enough of them. but to be fair that could be said of Försvarsmakten too :^/

>>128846571

Good luck getting your gold back from them Hans.

>>128846440
youre right, i corrected myself here
>>128846346
seems like a pretty good iidea, but the question is, how many people will need to die until the country gets redpilled ?

Can you actually get gold bars to ypur house? most kike sellers just want to keep it at their enterprise

>>128833751
>193 posts
>1 post by this ID

>>128835397
Cities in Scotland

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Thread theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8vJ_lMxQI

>>128833923
I like the way you think Polbrah

>>128846798

Its buried in a safe, in another safe which is cemented into my basement floor, which in and of itself weights 250 kilos, and then is completely disguised.

I've got a dummy safe hidden elsewhere.

I am full on paranoid but also completely prepared.

>>128846660

If it's going to happen it wil be neither years or centuries, but decades.

But by then the powers that (will) be will have too much control over the populous for a civil war, because of technology.

>>128846099

How badly cucked is Australia in your opinion? I know the Kiwis, or should I say chinks, are fucked but Australia is pretty fucking white compared to most Western countries today.

and nice ID m8

>>128846936

I meant your countries gold. Isn't it stored in the U.S.?

>>128846975

Yeah, like the other anon said - It's a race to set up the state apparatus before the population get too out of control.

China seems to be the most obvious model. But who knows.

>>128838231

Yep. This was the deal. Saudis basically said "Ok, you don't want to be our mercenaries? Then sell us guns and we'll take over the Middle East ourselves." Don't play along and the infinite petrodollar credit card goes bye bye.

He did ok in this.

Woulden't it be cool if a full crash happend and alot of city states formed? You hate imegrants, just go to that city state that thinks like you. Is the economic crash the solution to all problems?

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>>128847326

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>>128844877

!terrorism" in real life it is people who are fighting for acceptance and equal rights. Sweden svens wanted to get slaves but their math went wrong because "slaves" turned out to be more clever and better educated than Svens themselves. so Svens invented whole fucking system to keep themselves as upper class. part of this system is to welcome extremists and mafia from countries they import slaves from. and now you got what you started yourself.

>>128845782
The British military would be on our side if that happened they hate the muzzies

>>128847326

Confederalism and balkanization do tend to solve a lot of problems.

>>128847127

About 40% of it is, which is long gone. Its nothing but a journal entry.

Shit, we tried to get some 400 tons back (only about 7% of total) in 2013 and it took the US Fed some 4 years to do it.

Its been collateralized, plledges and turned into maple leafs and dori bars sent to India.

>>128834686
My Man, i´m still here. We need to talk.

>>128836727
that´s it

>>128836727
We had someone who run a truck into an christmas marked, we had someone who bombed a concert. The thing is that we know that it´s enough. If i speak for me:
1. i don´t know where i can get firearms,
2. i am white, if i scratch someone nearly coffee-colored i´d go to jail instant

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>>128836768
THIS. Let the pension fund crisis and the sovereign debt crisis hit and ppl getting hungry with no health care going WTF while prisons and police turn into nothings and the gibs crowd will chimp out, making the natives have to fight for their lives or perish where they stand. The whole situation WILL make the natives fight, and it won't be pretty at all. Except for resourceful black pilled ppl who are seeing it coming from a mile away, maybe even then, nobody know when it will exactly start.

Another scenario is natives taking a stand if a big enough habbening triggers the white man chimp out, although I doubt it, I think economic crisis will make the entitled gibs chimp out and attack en mass which will trigger the natives response. And you know what happens when whites riot... lel

>>128847406
I sure hope so.

>>128847367
Wtf are you talking about

>>128847067

Politically somewhere around Canada tier. This is offset by us culturally being more like the U.S. (that is to say openly conservative people with the large population centers full of leftists who idolize Europe). The usual Suburban and Rural Retard schism.

Our conservatives are more conservative than those in the U.K., but they are HARD Neo-Cons. They will sell us out at a moments notice. Or left is far to the left of the Democrats.

But, like I said, they're all sort of reigned in by Australia being "backwards".

Also we are 10% Chinese. The Chinese are economically liberal and extremely socially conservative. But they do not interact TOO much with the rest of the population.

But there are events like "Safe Schools" (a Canadian program designed to teach kids about being gay and tranny). It was kicked out after both the suburban and rural retards AND the Chinks found out what it contained.

The plan was for our country to become like Hong Kong or Singapore. I don't think that's going to be compatible with the lefts desire to fill it with Africans and Muslims.

Also, what a lot of people don't realize is that our laws are already FAR more draconian than the U.K.

On paper. They just don't get enforced in the same way. The amount of shit I can get jailed for saying is ludicrous. They just don't prosecute or investigate that sort of stuff here much.

Also, you know how you guys have CNN? Well, all of our major networks are Centrist/Right. It's our GOVERNMENT channels that are the problem. They're rabidly marxist tier left.

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>>128847471
>Wtf are you talking about


OHH BOYEE!! SVEN WAKES UP AND DISCOVERS HE WAS LIVING IN HIS HAPPY PLACE!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it needs to happen before the muslims get their hands on the nukes in western europe

the unavoidable civil war needs to happen before the muslims get their hands on the nukes in western europe

>>128833751
Whenever the global supply of xenoestrogens runs out. This is really an issue of an extreme lack of masculinity. In any other century we'd have manned the fuck up long ago and started choppin the (((heads))) that desperately need choppin.

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>>128847583
How is this relevant to sweden?

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>>128847456
>the white man chimp out

lol. and then they all will move to australia because american army will mae them into bloody mess if theywill start own indepence.

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>>128847732
>How is this relevant to sweden?

wait for it..

>>128847732
Honestly, the way things are going you might get to see the European civil wars first hand.

>>128833751
We are in the middle of a war between Islam and Zion people get woke here and tell others
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

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>>128847793
i'm waiting nigger

>>128837604
you media one seems more far fetched with all these liberal ass new stations

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There will be no war between humans and orcs as long as all Euro countries take part in this transformation. Once humans will be reduced to less then 15%, there is going to be a Orc vs Orc war.

If the East won't go into multicultural mode, then there will be war sooner, before a complete transformation. France as a muslim majority, islamo-socialist, nignog-humanist, nuclear power... will play a big part in fighting the racist Evil.

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Wallahi we will dominate the world
No crusades,no isis,no jews,no serbs no one shall ever stand in the way of the glorious revival of the ottmon empire

>>128847916

I'm actually all for this.

>>128847916
Aslong as the jews die

>>128840351
kek

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>>128847730

Calm down Tommy, or they will send you back to jail again.

https://youtu.be/3ChjfFx_zLU

>>128834588
The 'spoils' will be the uncucking of an entire continent.

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>>128838438
Leftie indoctrination. Ppl don't give a fuck about thinking about this shit here, very few ppl know wtf is happening in Calais, etc. MSM and entertainment is just criticizing Trump every second of the day and intelligent discussion is very very rare in MSM. Poortugal is going the cuck path. Even our shitskin prime minister has repeated the Sahid meme that we have to get used to terrorism. Ppl here resist the red pill, there is antifag graphity in some streets of the capital and if you "critisise" or try to debate islam ppl think you're a nazi. So I say, let this mother fucker burn. When ppl start to get shfted really hard, then they'll find the motivation to take action (or just let themselves be fisted like Sweden).

>>128848040
>"far-right fanatic"
>fanatic

The UK is beyond redemption.

>>128848040
>banned from socialmedia

how do you get banned from socialmedia? Isen't britton supposed to pretend to be for free speach?

>>128839241
Thanks americunt bro

>>128848119
>nazi

that's a slur. It called nationalsocialist

>>128839424
THIS. This is the true black pill, not the nihilist depressed faggy shit. This is the optimal path, redpill others without showing your power level, and prep for the shitstorm that is upon us.

https://youtu.be/5foPxZlIXHg

>>128841027
Ppl are so faggy about handguns here it is sickening. Except for the criminals.

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Sweden must now learn from Israel how to fight terror

We must now learn from the State of Israel, a country with more experience on how to protect citizens from terrorist attacks. Because the latest terrorist attack in Stockholm will probably not be the last in the Swedish capital.

Let us never change who we are, what we do and what we stand for to avoid terrorism.We should not stop living.

But on the other hand, we need to change our view on security so that it will be more difficult to succeed in attacking us and instilling fear among us. We must have better security arrangements around the metro, central stations, airports, the parliament, shopping centers, public holidays and major events, all of which are important terror targets for terrorists. Extensive security arrangements are a part of the everyday life in countries like Israel that for decades lived with the threat of terrorism. We must now learn from the State of Israel that has more experience on how to protect her citizens from terrorist attacks.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/21/swedens-anti-terror-coordinator/

>>128833751
We are in a war between islam and zion get woke here
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

>>128848202

I know. It's hilarious. Tommy just wants to go and have a chat with a fucking terrorist, and he's a "fanatic". The article almost reads like it's sympathetic towards the fucking "Hate Preacher".

Also Tommy just got himself banned for twitter again for "harassing" terrorists and revealing their personal info online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4yEoZ88aU&t=4s

>>128848628
Terrorism is basically a goverment police state op

>>128841861
There is only two places in Denmark where muslim, liberal and communist filth thrive and that's Aarhus and Copenhagen, most of the people living in the countryside or in the suburbs hates the mudslims, they are likely to help us in an event like this

>>128842319
Lel, there goes le cuck gene into neverness.

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>>128848801
>Terrorism

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>>128842329
Thanks a lot for the support pal... But it won't break out in Poortugal, ppl here are complete leftards, the right wing is a bunch of euro-cucks and the far-right pseudo neo-nazi party is retarded beyond belief. The ones that oppose EU the two most are the far-left, imagine that, kek. And agrican and ME gibs are not getting here cuz we are POORtugal.

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>>128833923
What a strange fate that the hopes of the west lie in the hands of the Polish.

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We are pretty much Spain during 1934. Tensions are growing as the desire for a Third Republic rises.

>>128842937
>Uff what a nice shit post I gave to you.
lel

https://discordapp.com/invite/S4KJa
please join we need more Europeans

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>>128849141

>Portugal

Fuck. Now I'm hungry. Why don't you Porco cunts have drive-thrus. It's fucking cold outside.

>>128849348

Nice try FBI.

>>128849440
as if you're not already on a list

>>128845016
Don't worry, it will, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

>>128845291
True story.

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>>128841636
Paris is a city of cucks, they did not even resist the germans in 1940 and only rebelled when the US was about to bring (((freedom))) to the town

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>>128850177
>lying on the internet

for what purpose ? modern parisians have nothing to do with 40's parisians
germans occupied the whole europe tell me which one resisted ?

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>>128850340
>lying on the internet
>modern parisians have nothing to do with 40's parisians
Yes what is left is niggers and effeminate mongrels.

>forgetting about the commies happilly collaborating with germany until barbarossa.
Parisians back then where not only cucks, they were also whores and cowards.

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>>128843151
What's with all those waiters marching?

>>128833751
Probably never. For that to happen you'd need the army on your side. It could happen, but i doubt it.

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>>128845804
True, in a few years there will be no way to get accurate info whatsoever I think, they'll find a way to take down the chans, voat, gab, etc. Google won't show you news of independent journalists about the true situations and the internet will be as sterilized has MSM. ((They)) were not expecting gamergame to suddenly start a wave of political/deepstate redpilling and now their building the dams to stop the wave. But the bird is out of the nest, the time will come when it will come down to redpilled ppl to redpill others without any internet resources whatsoever. Perhaps start printing the news/studies/hatefacts that prove the redpills we can access freely now because the internet is going to be sterilized. Redpilling others is going to become much much harder as time moves forward, we have to solve that issue if this awareness is to keep it's momentum despite the globalist counter-moves.

>>128852584
My spelling is shit, time to get a little nap.

>>128845871
I don't think so, racial and cultural tension raises day by day, and when the next financial crisis hits and the entitled gibs chimpout the cocktail will burst into flames and natives will be forced to defend themselves.

>>128838917

just come to texas and rub an armadillo all over yourself

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>>128846651
America is doomed, most of the ones here who claim otherwise are browns larping as real Americans aka white.

http://www.justicemap.org/index.php?gsLayer=nonwhite&gfLon=-78.847287&gfLat=36.78522832&giZoom=5&

America is going Brazil 2.0 with nukes.

>>128833751

Anyone else hoping it is soon? I want to be young enough to fight in it and defend my lands from the peaceful, exploding, 16 year old children with beards

>>128833751
Lol. When muslims reach 30% they will insist om shariah, by that time whites will be down to around 40% - half of them being cucks. So that leaves around 20% willing to fight for their people.

So you see, by the time people wake up, it will be way too late.

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>>128833751
probably never even if we rise up the demografics of the mudshits and niggers are in their favour.

europe will probably end up like yugoslavia a failed experiment in multicultralism.

>>128854001
You think people would've learned by this, but noo! Let's try it again - this country wtf.

>>128848664
underrated

>>128846440
Kek

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>>128847367
Keep shilling ahmed, your gibs will run out when the crisis hits and the natives will have blood in their minds when that happens for all the shit the misbehaved "refugees" were up to when they decided that invanding the West was a free ride of gibs and pussy.

>>128853977
My man, civil war between future-USA and England started with only 20% of the settlers up for a war.

The rest were loyals to England or didn't give a shit about it.

It doesn't take much to start a conflict

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>>128847916
Implying there won't be pseudo-converts to lone wolf the fuck out of your top dogs...

LARPing faggots galore

>>128848694
That's why mudslimes gonna burn... lel

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>>128833751

It will begin once mosques start getting torched. When this happens it means the natives no longer respect the government and don't fear being punished. It means the many natives recognize the threat that islam is and want to act against it.. And it means they don't believe their governments can ensure their security. No amount of guilt tripping and politically correct name calling will work anymore, in fact it will cause people to be further enraged, Now with governments fucking with privacy on the internet, things may start with even less unrest. The invaders on the other hand don't fear the governments to begin with, and many see their religion as their main or only identity so once mosques start to burn they will start rioting. If cartoons set them off then this surely will as well. I believe there will be riots in the streets of many cities within five years. Who knows after that.

>>128833751
Why the fuck do you want a civil war you dickhead ?

My best bet would be on Romania if something goes wrong up in here. The romanians have fought the muslims before and they won almost every single war while being outnumbered 15 to 1. I mean, they are a shithole, but they have the biggest chances because they are fucking racist and most of them would die for their country.

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>>128833923
Reconquista when?

>>128833751
People here are fucking submissive. They eat what they are told - they now think they should feel grateful for having a job, and they don't care about moral values or collective projects as long as they have little money to survive in their comfy shithole. As long as you let them cherish a little something they could lose, they'll never fight.

There will be no civil war. Just gentle buttfuck, pernicious moves that people can tolerate an get used to until it's too late.

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>>128833751
2020 when euro money runs out and theres no reason to stay chained to this monster :)))))))))))

>>128849384
Eh, what a cunt, can't take a little low temp mate?

>>128856447

Why the fuck dont you want a civil war you bellend

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>>128834571

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>>128833751
not until many many more die and they finally realize their governments have been usurped then they will turn and everything will come down ending with the vatican

>>128859740
Asking the real question

>>128834461
It will be within the next 2 years.

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>>128833751
What are you doing in Thailand you dirty little /pol/ack?

Is it 12 year old girls or trannies?

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>>128860538
U wizard ?

>>128837632
>It's already a low level insurgency, there's attacks every other day now

This. Wait to the looney lefties start amping things up and all of those fighting-age male migrants get swtiched on like the drone army that they are.

Now, you're just experiencing the hard-liners/crazies that can't play their role correctly. Some of the attacks are probing defences & response times, etc. Others are like virgins that blow their loads in their pants before the chick has even stripped.

Give it a year or two and many of the migrant drones are going to start uprisings that go continent wide.

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>>128846257
You guys always seem to forget to account for the relevant demographics, in this case males aged roughly 18-40.
The darkies also have higher fertility rates and there's more people coming into Europe every day.

They also tend to concentrate in cities with more than 500.000 inhabitants in countries with the most gibsmedats.

Germany, Austria, France, UK, Sweden, Belgium and the Netherlands in particular are very much fucked.
Violence seems inevitable at this point.

>>128834588
The spoils are your women will let you fuck them again.

>>128834571
Everything

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>>128862466
Humm...
It would be easier to learn game for that...
But!
Digits confirm.
CHECKED, PRAISED

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>>128833751
>as if France and Germany have a drop of testosterone left

Maybe with another Pope, not this fucking faggot, we can arrange another Holy Crusade

any suggestion for the perfect candidate?

We are united, we are strong. There will be no civil war. If things actually get bad actions will be taken, but it is likely any problem can just be hugged to death like was done with youth communism.

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>>128863154
YES, HUGS WILL STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

>>128837074
What did piers Morgan do?

>>128863680
Hugs stopped communism in country which had to live in shadow of soviet union. All you need to do is hug REALLY tight so they will comform and become citizens which have adapted.

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>>128858418
RIGHT FUCKING NOW BROTHER

>>128862457
Most reasonable post so far.

We're in democraties, which produce norms and their correlated rules according to demographic. Normal Muslims are in reality the most dangerous, since they produce X% more children than other confessions

We're at the beginning of the Muslim shift, yes it will be some small attempt of "reconquista" here and there but I don't see how they could get the moral justification to unify the locals to fight for their forefathers lands.

The only thing that could really change anything would be 1/an economic crisis pushing even the most moderate people to embrace radical views 2/ a movement of "decolonization" as seen in the 50/60's, which is impossible per se since most of Muslims have the nationality of their European "country". And even if we would bypass this huge shared-nationality problem, we won't have anything to stand for / unify the locals:

Christianity is dead. Liberalism/Individualism totally destroyed tribalism in European minds. The U.E severely damaged the concept of European nation states.

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>>128858418
when Spain, Poland or Vatican gets attacked