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New (((TRS))) PsyOp: "5TH POLITICAL THEORY"

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THEY CALL IT FIFTH POLITICAL THEORY (5 pints, get drunk (((good goy))))
>THE LATEST TRS SCHEME TO FUCK US ALL OVER
IT'S THE NEW VERSION OF MARXISM INVENTED BY MEME-WIZARDS TO POISON OUR BRAINS

(((TRS))) promoting 5PT in their newest episode podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqawqX1tMwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqawqX1tMwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqawqX1tMwY

https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/

It's a whole scheme to dismantle and destroy any/all White nationalist movement and keep us out of power, instead making us focus on becoming a tribal (((kike))) copy, basically White Judaism. Read it for yourself, it's pretending to be prowhite but is in fact another plot to destroy us before we can be strengthened.

The blog
https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/
https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/
https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/
https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/
>Named after the Antiwhite Stalinist (((Alexandro Dugin)))'s "4th political theory" (antifascism)

These fucking spastic psychobergs are trying to brainwash us all and destroy National Socialism forever.

1. IGNORE ALL TRS/FIFTH POLITICAL THEORY/ANTIWHITE KOSHER NATIONALISM
2. ONLY REAL FASCISM WILL PREVAIL
3. THIS IS THE NEXT FUCKING THING THEY WILL PUSH TO BURY THE ARYAN RACE FOREVER, AFTER THEY ADMIT TRUMP WAS JUST A KIKE TOOL
4. WAKE UP PEOPLE, (((((((TRS))))))) IS OUR MAIN ENEMY, THEY ARE THE TRUE FACE OF THE JEW WORLD ORDER
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IGNORE ALL (((TRSKIKE SODOMITE))) ORDERS

KEEP CALM AND SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>128825239
ok now you have posted a anti-TRS thread.
if 80% of replies are not pro-TRS, you have a inorganic, shill-fest
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>>128825513
K
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>it's a schizo thread
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>>128825777
>if 80% of replies are not pro-TRS, you have a inorganic, shill-fest
they never were, TRShill
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>>128826027
Nothing I said is schizo though, anyone schizo enough to trust (((TRSkike))) ideologies like /5PT/ needs to be oven'd
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Jew here part of the ruling class. Sounds pretty alright by me
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>>128825858
such a /pol thing to reply
>>128826127
OP is a fag
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Fuck off crazy shill fag. You're the only one who's making the threads about it.
>>128804996
>>128784892
>>128636189
>>128623430
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>>128826265
you're literally the only person who keeps advertising 5pt on /pol/ lol
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>>128826323
we are educating /pol/ to reject 5PT kikes

fuck off

Fifth political theory raped your tender asshole, kikeboy?

>>128826524
a big army of informed anti TRS dudes is forming, we are destroying your kike lies.
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>>128826633
im in this thread to tell you to stop using proxies to act like radical yes men.
Of all the things which people call slide thread, this is the only one which is obvious
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>>128826964
the hell, I never use proxies, go to hell

Denounce the fifth political theory or FUCK OFF, faggot. You are hilarious
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>>128825239
Is this anonymous5s new namefag routine?
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>>128827065
literally quien?
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haha, your thread died
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>>128827644
no it didn't, retard, we are breaking YOUR conditioning
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>>128827730
why dont you get on the forums and disrupt their org internally? this board never has a TRS thread so you stick out like a nail here
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>>128828035
we neeed to sticky this, dumbshit, you're lost, we NEED to expose them and ban them 100%

they are worse than kikes
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>>128827037
Based 5PT
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>>128828439
>we need to sticky TRS threads so people ignore TRS threads
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>>128828551
if only there was a hell for folk like you

>>128828641
this is ANTI TRS education, moron, you need help
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I support based TRS against the kike OP.

TRS even invented the parenthesis meme that he is using to discredit them.
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Lol I'm listening to FtN right now, go bother infinichan or something.
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>>128828778
sometimes the kike drops redpills so he can take nationalist money, IDIOT, Kike Eunuch doesn't mean what he said, he just wants to SEEM based so he can drive the Aryan movement into meaninglessness

TRS isn't natsoc so it's crap, they even joked that natsoc is "autistic" which is another kike lie

>>128828954
fuck off I posted it there already, everyone needs to be vaxxed against the 5PT mindvirus that almost affected me but I rejected it fast and hard.

It's like a fuckin tooth u have to pull just yank it.
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This is next level dedication to D&C tactics. Are we sure OP isn't just a lunatic who actually believes this shit? If TRS wanted to destroy white nationalism they wouldn't have worked so hard to build it in the first place.

hide and ignore
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>>128829373
FOR MONEY AND RESPECT, IDIOT, SO IDIOTSL IKE U KISS THEIR ASS AND GIVE THEM WADS OF CASH TO HELP (((OUR MOVEMENT)))

5PT=A NUCLEAR BOMB OF BLACKPILLS TO BRAINWASH AND SUBVERT OUR RACE TO DEATH. WAKE THE FUCK UP

SHAMELESS BUMP
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>>128825239
Well its true that nationalism's energy has run its course and thats actually why globalism has taken hold because nationalism just does not have an answer to the power of nuclear weapons. I didn't need TRS to come up with that and nobody ran a psyop on my I just can see whats happening.
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>>128829601
You swallowed the blackpill

"IT'S HOPELESS GOY, JUST GIVE UP AND BE A TRIBAL LOSER LIKE MUSLIMS"

You're the bext goy

BUMP
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>dude kike trs shills!
you are in red.dit country, no one gives a shit you moron xD most of this board is trumpflakes not interested in any idea of white nationalism

now back to your mindless retail my ubermensch white trash nazi friend
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>>128829981
>>128829981
>you are in red.dit country
you wish, fucking trash
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if you are doing anything with those threads you are giving free advertisement to TRS since 99% of lurkers here don't know who they are

and since /pol/ will support even kike pedophiles and trannies, I doubt they will find a problem with TRS message
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>>128830161
check /ptg/ it's like the_donald but with a couple of shitskins posting hitler memes

now back to your mindless retail my ubermensch white trash nazi friend, lmao
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>>128830291
You and most here are TRSlaves

FtN is antiwhite garbage that pretends to be pro
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Reminder that the ugly D+C kikess in pic related is behind these threads.
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>>128830393
>FtN is antiwhite garbage that pretends to be pro
I bet the thousand of listeners would disagree

so tell us what did you acomplish in life, cleetus?
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>>128830606
absolutely nothing
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>>128830446
I respect her because she exposes TRS kikes, but she's too wrong on many issues. Fuck off niggerlover.

>>128830606
They are contaminated with the kike mindvirus TRS retardation, and most cannot be fully saved from the psychological enslavement
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>>128830727
so working in retail vaccinates you against this kike virus? interesting

>>128830446
who is this even
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>>128830854
>so working in retail vaccinates you against this kike virus? interesting
i work in the national socialism business, and I'm here defending national socialist all night until 5am when I have to go work

stop stalking me, you dumb polish retard, poland is fine but u fucked over Deutschland so fuck you too

bump
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>>128829773
We'll see. I suspect that in the future nations will be sort of impartial observers between warring factions organized under whatever, maybe a corporation, maybe a family like feudal times, religion or race I don't know it doesn't matter but the point is that nations will have very limited, regional power and everywhere else will be the wild west
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>>128830854
>who is this even
she's a very nice lady who is kind of wrong on some major stuff but also she 100% exposes the TRS kikes, but she believes in the occult and paganism and in a flat earth theory and she is just wrong there

check out her vids exposeing the (((altright))) and TRS
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>>128831049
nations > tribes

fuck off 5PT/TRS kike
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>>128830974
>i work in the national socialism business
on what position? Expert On Spreading Failed Ideologies?

>defending national socialist
havent you heard of 1945?
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>>128831113
>lives in a nation where everybody racemixed
>dude but nations
did you do a 23andme?
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>>128825239
>this thread for the millionth time
Fuck off kike shill.
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>>128825239
TRS went to shit when Fash the nation left, the daily shoah isn't even funny or informative
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>>128831150
jackass you can't save the white race without natsoc

Natsoc is the fucking blueprint for everything. Anyone who doesn't totally embrace it can never be a leader

I don't trust anyone who will not be NS for our race like (((Mike Enoch, Jared Taylor or Jazzhand McFeel))) they are pure kikes

>>128831315
fuck off if u hate the truth, but it's gonna set u free

>>128831290
the only real Americans are Aryan whites who reject christianity and embrace natsoc 1000%

the rest just live here, I should be in charge

>>128831150
>Failed Ideologies
gtfo NS helped Germany bigly

>>128831424
(((TRS))) has ALWAYS been cucky bullshit and kike crap, idiot.
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>>128831474
Fash the nation was the best news source on the web.
Fight me scrub
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>>128825239
>>128825513
>(((moarpheus)))
(((TRS))) is gay and you are too.

>>128825777
He's a shill.
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>>128831424

FTN's back
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>>128831578
how can you denounce TRS and not side with me? fck off loser
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>>128831566
pssst they are back
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>>128831474
>Moarpheus is pretending to be national socialist

>>128831658
Because you're a kike who tries to feed disinfo here even though anyone who
1. isn't a newfag
and
2. has a brain
can see right through your shit you JIDF leftover plebe.
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>>128831667
>>128831644
You lads better not be memeing me are they really?
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>>128831474
>Natsoc is the fucking blueprint for everything
why did they lost

>the rest just live here, I should be in charge
I doubt you are in charge of your own life t b h xD

>gtfo NS helped Germany bigly
yeah look where are they now with millions of niggers and arabs, thanks hitler
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>>128831760

https://radio.therightstuff.biz/2017/06/03/return-of-fash-the-nation/
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>>128831752
tell me how my fucking info or renegade's is wrong, we are waking people up, fuck off

btw ** have issues with them but who gives a fuck they are natsoc, unite with us or fuck off\\

>>128831833
kike
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>>128831760
check fo yoself nigga
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TO ALL NEWFAGS:
Read this shit immediately. This is the kind of shit we've had to put up with for years. Morpheus is a faggot.
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>>128825239
>talks about WN on /pol/ constantly
>someone says it in real life and /pol/ goes nuts
Richard Spencer, TRS, Anglin, you name it. All of them are accused of being FBI/Jews/commies etc.
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>>128831889
>>128831920
Oh shit, I cant be the only one who is hype as fuck about this
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>>128831899
that's all you could come up with? yeah, you are just trailer trash larping as a nazi, how refreshing. Not.
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>>128831899
Divide and conquer.
Now that you kids are in against TRS I'm going to have reconsider my opposition to that cancer.
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>>128831113
You're just beyond obstinate now. Theres nothing wrong with imagining the world after nationalism. We've gone through changes in societal organization in the past and we will again. Its 100% inevitable. And the systems which bring it about are so big and complex that no amount of autistic screeching on a malaysian cartoon imageboard can do anything about it.
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>>128831064
>she's a very nice lady

She's clinically insane and a mudshark.
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>>128832180
>wn
>insane people
gee, is there a pattern?
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>25 posts
>Out of 67

This wouldn't happen to have anything to do with Uhhh... Fash the Nation coming back would it antifa shill?
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>>128825239
Never heard of 5PT but I've known for a long time that the only future for white nationalism that has any possibility of actualization is to rethink our conception of nationhood.
Glad TRS is on-board. I may consider dropping some shekels on their (((subscription service))) once it launches.
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>>128825239
fuck trs and fuck you too. #smokedabs
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>>128831976
they are though
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>>128832498
fuck ftn they're fake nationalist
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>>128832773
dummies like you would accuse hitler of being a kike shill, that's what funny about you, trailer trash larpers

>>128832826
>no true trailer trash argument
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>>128833008
He's not a larper he is a straight up shill.
Also note how he keeps removing the name even though he still has the ID.

>>128832773
>>128832826
Tell your boss to give up the contract your company sucks.
You belong back on Facebook fucking faggot.
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>>128833008
troll you can tell they won't take the fight to the libshits, they would talk to them and be "polite" which would mean they are complete fucking fools

we need militant atttudes here not being "nice" and being "smart" by explaining detailed politics.

fuck OFF
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>>128825239
EVERYONE IGNORE THIS POSTER THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING THAT HAPPENED ON 8CHAIM. THIS IS AN ANTIFA FALSE FLAG THEY WANT TO TURN EVERYONE AGAINST TRS CAUSE ITS THE BIGGEST WN COMMUNITY ON THE WEB.
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>>128833164
>militant attitudes
>give me screencaps of you goyim advocating for violence so my friend at Buzzfeed can make a hit article on you guys!
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>>128833008
>trailer trash
i live in my parent's basement, thank you
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>>128833305
haha loser I moved out at 18, 19 here btw

TRScucks lose
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>>128833108
no, I believe WNs to be paranoid morons, no matter what you will say, thats why WN need IRL organising to root out the dumb element

>>128833164
yeah, the problem is you didn't acomplish nothing besides being a constant embarasment for the white race. And no, those hitler vids of youtube are worthless you dope xD most countries block them right away
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>>128833434
im not pro TRS and i lived on my own until a month ago goy. just biding my time until the equities market tanks
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>>128833434
>19
I'm sure you have a vast knowledge of life lmao

19yo works in retail - Imahugenazi.wav
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>>128833434
You're scared of them aren't you?
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>>128833461
>he responded to the wrong post under a different IP
Wh-
How
Wait
WAIT

>>128833434
>>128833592
You proxying piece of shit.
That just confirmed 100% you're a shill.
Enjoy your ban asshole, proxies are against the rules.


For any dumbos:
He was trying to respond to my other post

Going to cap this thread to help educate newfags on the shill question.
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>>128832673
you deserve the cross you red nigger
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>>128825239
>>How a typical pol thread about a podcast would go:
Anon-A: I like this podcast, episode 3 was my fav.
Anon-B: Its alright, episode 4 was a little better
Anon-C: This is not my favorite podcast but you guys should try this other podcast
Me: Thanks for the input guys I'm going to check all of them out

>> How a TRS thread on pol goes
Anon-A: SHILL SHILL SHILL
Anon-B: SHILL SHILL SHILL
Anon-C: SHILL SHILL SHILL
Me: ?

PS: Moarpheous is a faggot and TRS has done more for my own personal sense of white nationalism then any other source
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>>128833896
just took a big ol hit o dabs while reading that
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>>128833827
well, seems you're just another paranoid cuck
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>>128834058
You don't deserve the money you get paid no matter how low the pay is, Moarpheus.
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>>128833827
liar
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>>128828724

>this is ANTI TRS education, moron, you need help

Get a load of this shill. So let me get this right. They have some kind of joke or drinking game where they drink 5 pints of beer? And you are creating entire threads to complain about this?

You. Fucking. Loser.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>128834353
if you red the thread I've been shitting on this nigger through the whole thread and some older too, what would be the point of proxying then? present me with you logic
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>>128831290

Yeah ok faggot.

Mostly whites breed with whites. So you have like german irish or english dutch or nordic scottish or whatever.

The amount of people who marry out of race is very low comparatively.

LE 56% face.
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>>128825239
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>>128826633
>we
Cripple chan?
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>>128834535
Moarpheus. I didn't even question this character you've got going.
Scroll up if you have short term memory loss, you responded to the wrong post of mine under the Polish address about something related to what Moarpheus was on about rather than yourself or I.
You've fucked up, you got caught with your pants down.
Stop while you still can faggot.
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>>128825239
IMPORTANT BREAD
>>128834974
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>>128835074
you are wrong, but whatever, turns out I'm right, wns are a bunch of paranoid morons, you are no better than this 8c.h dope xD
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>>128834877
HEIL
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>>128835244
>he calls me [target group] as if it means anything in this
So far have I said anything "white nationalist"
No, so far I've been on your ass Moarpheus.
I'm anti-shill, and that's the only ideology I've expressed.

So what I'm saying is you suck, you don't deserve what you get paid, and shove a broomstick up your ass you lackluster wannabe.


Also
>this 8.ch dope
Wait were you using this Polish address to pretend to be opposition?

IAMSILLY comics don't work why do you assume IAMSILLY conversations work?
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>>128835592
wtf am I even reading
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>>128835702
btw I'm going to doxx your ass with my friend who has some tech skills, ur goin down nigger

can run but can't hide
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>>128825239
No one talks or cares about the "fifth political theory" anyways on here, why do you keep making these?
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>>128825513
>using the keep calm """meme"""
At least try to hide being from T_D
>>
How much longer are the mods going to let this namefaggot spam?
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>>128825239
>modern world has created a system of nationstates that inevitably lead to doom
>the world of identity will begin melting down on a tribal level.
>we are returning to the era of ethnic citizenship

What's wrong with this?
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>>128836419
fuck off this is a crock of horseshit designed to make u give up on nations, WAKE UP TRSKEK

>>128833461
I'm not WN idiot, I don't give a fuck if your genes die out if yu're from south of the alps or east of berlin.

I'm only on the white nationalist team b/c we need all the numbers we can get, but i don't really care about anyone but northwest euros like myself

real natsoc isn't for THE WHOLE WHITE RACE dumb nigger

>>128836356
fuck off if u hate the truth, you mentally enslaved little bitch
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>>128833008
Hitler was a loyal white man who fought for his race and got dragged in to a war thanks to the international Jew.

If the dumbass who started this thread understood National Socialism he would know Hitler said his doctrine was tailored for the German people and was not for export. The ideals within National Socialism may be eternal but its symbols, branding, and political platform was the product of a particular time and place. TRS more or less acknowledges this fact and they are a very successful propaganda machine because of it.
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>>128837018
>Hitler was a loyal white man
DON'T FORGET HE WAS GERMANIC

GERMANIC SUPREMACY SHOULD BE THE RULE WE ALL FOLLOW, I RESPECT POLES AND SPANIARDS BUT THEY NEED TO OBEY GERMANIC FUHRERUNG
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>>128829773
fucking kek

T shirt worthy
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>>128837128
Germany is going to be repopulated by racially inferior turkroaches and you want to talk about lording over Poles and Spaniards? You are a joke.
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>>128837432
SPAIN IS COMPLETELY DEMOGRAPHICALLY FUCKED RETARD, ALMOST THE LOWEST BIRTHRATE IN EUROPE

AND POLES ARE BASED YEA BUT THEY'RE NOT MY PEOPLE, THEY'RE EASTERN EUROPEANS

I CARE ABOUT ANGLOS/IRISH/FRENCH AND GERMANS AND DANISH AND SO ON

FUCK OFF WITH THIS "ALL WHITES ARE EQUAL"

GERMANIC SUPREMACY ALL THE WAY
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For the love of god just end your life already you sack of shit.
>>
clean non whites out of euroep and usa including jooo

race war NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>128825239
>When retarded fascists call out other fascists.
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>>128838203
...
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>>128838604
The amount of petty infighting that goes on just among your "pro-white" little groups is proof that if you guys had the reigns you wouldn't bring forth your great ethno-state. You fucking retards can't even decide what is the races are acceptable.
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>>128829540
lol how the fuck do anglin fanboys still trust this Jew lmfao
>>
>this manlet again
OP pic related
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>>128838820
FUCK OFF IM NT AN ANGLIN FANBOY

HES TOO MODERATE

>>128838937
im 6 foot 4 nigga
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>>128830727
You have a diagnosable mental illness
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>>128838983
sure you are
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Hello again Moarpheus, do you remember me from the last few threads you made here and on 8/pol/? Remember how I said I would ask the author for clarification? I will post the context of our conversation now.
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Shifting the Overton window to the right and gaining enough traction as a movement to hold office and remove the nation-wreckers from positions of power so that you can influence the people to value their in-group above all else. That’s the stance. Trying to achieve something of a fourth Reich for all white nations. Pushing for whites to value their own identity/in-group and a state to oppose subversive elements (i.e. individuals/groups/corporations that seek to undermine the traditionalist morals or future of the ethic citizenry). That ought to be the final goal.
As if it is the equivalent of some unsatisfactory product or drug that must be “peddled”. It is the only solution that remains for large-scale survival. Civil war is not an option? Not now, of course. But once whites operate with unity, removing the socially undesirables will only be a formality, not a challenge. This is defeatism at its worst. It’s ceding any territory before any attempts are made. Trump becoming president and securing the borders (if he follows through) is a massive step for an ethno-state as it limits the floodgates, even though it may be argued that the damage of replacement has already been done. That’s where the removal comes into play.
“Instead of a preoccupation with nationalism, statism, or electoral politics, 5PT is about the self-selected tribe, no questions asked and nothing owed to others unless necessary for its perpetuity.”
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>>128839493
This is devolution of thought for the sake of crafting a movement. Nationalism (i.e. the formation of an ethno-state) is the only solution. You are describing anarcho-primitivism. You didn’t have to create an elaborate blog to post how nuanced the movement is, it’s already been defined. That’s the problem when you advocate for “not focus[ing] on wielding power on the international stage”: you will not advance anywhere. If these bands of whites were to form (under the weak state apparatus existing only as a showpiece for the bands to exist under, as pseudo-provinces, so to speak), the neighbouring nations would plunder the lands within the month because anti-nationalism (anarchist movements) will decrease unity as a group (logically, as it is individualistic). If the US disbanded its state and threw the entire concept to the wind, then they would be replaced even faster.
“are there any European or Eurocolonial nations which support ethnic nationalism and nativism? Are there any nations which conceive of themselves as nations outside of the third world and Eastern Europe?”
That’s the entire point: pushing for movements that seek to unite the nation and its ethnic citizenry under one banner and to expel the subversive elements from society. Doing away with the fifth column, so to speak.
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>>128839527
It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine whites and start fresh, which is something I think most of us can get behind. I just don’t understand how isolated bands of whites will be conducive to promoting a white nation, if that even is your end-goal. It seems to promote disunity. It’s one thing if you advocate for, say, the Confederate states to secede because the North has become plagued with a cancer of the mind; it’s another thing to tell the Confederate states to secede and throw down the banner of their people, opting to operate as nomads or “diaspora”. Anti-nationalism is against the interests of any group of people that wishes to further their future. Why do you think Jews fight so hard to attain positions of power and influence in the US if not to achieve a stable future for their diaspora population (by enacting hate speech laws, for example). I can sympathize with the return and revival of the roots (like a phoenix, rising from the ashes), it just seems to promote disunity by promoting anti-nationalism. Why become a “diaspora” in your own nation if you can actively influence your fellow countrymen towards your cause and remove the parasites?

That was my initial comment.
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>>128839553
The response:

Referring to your final lines, because it’s not your nation and they are not your fellow countrymen anymore, not most of them anyway. Liberal white people would rather you be expelled from their community than Muslims. And illiberal white people are nearly as domesticated, which is why those who think a second civil war would be beneficial to nationalism have no idea how bad it would get. (It’s not hard to imagine a scenario in which both the left and “right” refuse to work with “racists” during a conflict).

Now, if people want to advocate for nationalism they can. I do not think nationalism is a bad thing per se; my problem is that scattered minorities of Europeans and Eurocolonials demanding they be given control of a state so they can deport millions of people isn’t working, not even on their intended audience of fellow white people. It hasn’t worked for decades. White nationalism is not new and neither is advocating for it. “National socialist” movements in the United States and Europe are not new either.

Nationalists are focusing on what they would do WITH power when they are people utterly WITHOUT power.

People who are both locked out of the demo-bureaucratic state as an interest group and lacking actual real-world communities are not going to change the direction of things, nor will they survive the direction things are headed in.

I think that’s fairly straightforward. If there are no “pro-white” communities anywhere then what is white nationalism standing for beyond fiction writing? If you want a nation you have to work for it, not simply theorize about whether or not it exists and what its territory should be. History of full of examples of nations that disappear from the records for centuries. So long as the population survives and reproduces its culture and sense of place in the world it can regenerate at some point. You have to do more than angrily denounce the status quo.
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>>128839581
My response:

Of course, the traitor is the plague. But instead of purging the party of the undesirable elements, you’d opt to disband and remove yourself from the party altogether before any attempt at winning the culture war has been made. Like I said, it is purely defeatist. “It’s not hard to imagine a scenario in which both the left and “right” refuse to work with “racists” during a conflict”
You’re missing my point, the entire movement is to make them all “racist”. Once they are ideologically united, it is only a matter of time.
“I do not think nationalism is a bad thing per se; my problem is that scattered minorities of Europeans and Eurocolonials demanding they be given control of a state so they can deport millions of people isn’t working, not even on their intended audience of fellow white people. It hasn’t worked for decades.”
Decades since the last time it did. The problem with this entire system is that it vehemently denies the possibility for a “blood and soil” nationalist political climate to ever arise again. The Overton window is not some one-way street, it is a pendulum that shifts given the circumstance. But it must be shifted with work, as well (I ask not for lighter weights, but for broader shoulders, so to speak). It always rises up when nobody thinks it will because of effort and utilizing the circumstances available.
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>>128839602
“White nationalism is not new and neither is advocating for it. “National socialist” movements in the United States and Europe are not new either.”
I never said they weren’t new. They have existed for some time, but have faded into irrelevancy because they have been forgotten: there is no contesting that. The point is that they existed, and Rockwell’s “hate bus” was certainly met with a different reaction that it would be today. The issue is that you see the pendulum swing high up on one end and become blackpilled. All that means is that when it swings back, it will do so with lots of potential energy to spare.
“Nationalists are focusing on what they would do WITH power when they are people utterly WITHOUT power.”

If Trump does nothing else and becomes another Zionist, erecting the Wall will do more for nationalist movements than anything else.
“People who are both locked out of the demo-bureaucratic state as an interest group and lacking actual real-world communities are not going to change the direction of things, nor will they survive the direction things are headed in.”
See, this is where I agree with you. If your whole point is to push for some interest groups when whites become a minority, then that’s only reasonable. But it is a last resort and is set on the assumption that nobody will be able to tell the sleeping gentile that he is nothing more than a frog in boiling water. If you can get him to notice that, then you have won.
“I think that’s fairly straightforward. If there are…”
But it isn’t just waxing poetic for the sake of reviving the “good old days”. There is a great effort underway to push for newer generations to become much more conservative-minded. People are working very hard for their nation. This doesn’t change the fact that many are not, but white males have always been voting right.
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>>128825239
>how many layers of retardation are you on
You're welcome to talk shit if you manage to redpill as many people as they have. Until then, you don't get that luxury.
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>>128839635
All that needs to occur is that the cuckoos who have replaced actual pro-white conservatives must be ejected from the nest.

Some more clarifying questions: is this entire movement just advocacy for whites to operate like non-whites once they become a minority? By that, I mean forming white ghettos (not in the sense of poverty, but an all-white area), sticking by their own culture, preserving their lineage, etc. Basically, like you mentioned in the OP, “sub/trans-nationalism” (or nationalism underneath/beyond ‘x’, which is, in this context I assume, the non-white majority’s nationalist sentiments).
If you’re basically just advocating for Amish communities (in that they are all-white) in a sea of non-whites, then the exact same critique you raise against my points can be extended to yours: what makes you think the fifth column will allow you to exist as you do? They will launch campaigns against your villages of whites just as the Jewish Old Bolsheviks launched a war against “anti-Semitism”.

To summarize, it is disadvantageous, but still tactically sound (as a fall-back plan), to push for a game plan once whites become a minority, because at that point, they will already be lost. It will be a losing man’s game and only a matter of time. The entire point should be to avoid whites becoming a minority by following the first paragraph of my response. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mZx787Htrc. Even now, while whites are a majority, the same critiques you raise are extended against them. What makes you think they will not exist once whites hold no power? You will just be sitting ducks, which is why it is defeatist.
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>>128839656
His response:

By the time you’ve made everyone into a “racist,” I think Europeans and Eurocolonials would already be a minority. And to survive as a minority you need to have a sense of tribal consciousness and a diaspora mindset, that you do not belong to your place of residence and are part of a larger community that has been displaced from self-rule.

You can call this attitude defeatism, but what do you call the historical record since the 1960s in European countries? Every country becomes less European. Every government drifts on a long arc towards further liberalism and multiculturalism (with mild interruptions here and there) because that is the nature of the demo-bureaucratic state.

This cannot be fixed by making a good argument against it. That is the problem nationalists are running into a wall with.

White nationalists are a minority of white people and most white people want nothing to do with white nationalism. That minority has the potential to be the future Western diaspora that will itself be the potential revival of our civilization. 19th and 20th century forms of socio-political organization that date to the period where we ruled the world are very different from the situation we are in now.
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>>128839144
I'd rekk your little australian ass, you sassy cunts are just pretending to be apha, haha

>>128839451
you're probably the author himself, covering his dirty tracks

nice job nigger
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>>128839676
My response:

“By the time you’ve made everyone into a “racist,” I think Europeans and Eurocolonials would already be a minority.”
Well, even if we took a snapshot today in the US, this would be true as whites are already a minority of the overall births, and they sure won’t be “racist” after they pass through the public schooling systems.
“And to survive as a minority you need to have a sense of tribal consciousness and a diaspora mindset”
Well, this is hardly news to anybody. That much is obvious. This has always been known, why did this “movement” have to begin to point out the obvious? If whites become a minority, then they must operate to subvert the non-white majority, just as the non-whites did to them.
“You can call this attitude defeatism, but what do you call the historical record since the 1960s in European countries? Every country becomes less European. Every government drifts on a long arc towards further liberalism and multiculturalism (with mild interruptions here and there) because that is the nature of the demo-bureaucratic state.”
Now I’m beginning to have my confusion cleared up. I think the point of the movement (although it is pointing out the obvious) is to put forward a last-case scenario where the most undesirable outcome occurs: whites become minorities. Then, when that occurs, this is like a “Samson option”, so to speak. Bring down the whole ship with the non-white majority on board so that you can rebuild.
I agree on the point about a democratic state naturally advancing its own interests first. Import voters and make them dependent.
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>>128839726
“This cannot be fixed by making a good argument against it. That is the problem nationalists are running into a wall with.”
I beg to differ, and that’s the whole point I’m trying to make. I used to be about as much of a good goy as they come, but after coming across some arguments that I just couldn’t rebut, I, naturally, decided to use them myself. For example, against the modern masses, you can state: “Whites are just a group of people that operate in their own self-interest. What are you, a racist?” Using emotional “I am outraged at your beliefs” arguments is also something good to fall back on, as that is what they are most accustomed to.
“White nationalists are a minority of white people and most white people want nothing to do with white nationalism. That minority has the potential to be the future Western diaspora that will itself be the potential revival of our civilization. 19th and 20th century forms of socio-political organization that date to the period where we ruled the world are very different from the situation we are in now.”
See, this is why I don’t understand why you had to go and make a whole page about all of this. By virtue of that minority being WN, they will, by default and as a result of their beliefs, become the diaspora tribe if they were to become minorities in their own homelands. You seem to be under the impression that the WN minority will forget about all of this if they were to become a minority. That is not true, the opposite is true: they will become emboldened.
Basically, white nationalists will always value whites because that’s why they are white nationalists. There is no need to remind WN of all people to not take up any strategy necessary to preserve their people. This is doubly true if they become a minority. It does come off as defeatist when you point out the obvious because it seems that you are alluding to a future without having first exerted any work to prevent it.
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>>128839694
Evidence is right here: https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/2017/04/29/5pt-intro/comment-page-1/#comment-146
We are two different people commenting. Unless you have evidence. Otherwise, try actually engaging in discussion.

In short, the whole movement is "whites, don't forget to value white tribal identity if you become minorities and to be anti-nationalist towards a non-white state".
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>>128839837
you may be his buddy, or using proxies.

I don't buy this. Ask him to explain why TRS is promoting his fuckin' ideology. Ask him if he will denounce TRS.

If he does I will consider stopping my crusade on his BS.
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>>128829089
NeetSoc actually is autistic because it rejects economic incentives and then pretends like it doesn't know why it lost, or just blames the kikes.
Europe was plenty nationalist before WWI, you fucked it up for yourselves.
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>>128839942
Where has TRS promoted his shit? Proof?
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>>128840132
idiot IT'S IN MY OP, WATCH THE VIDEO U FUCKING CVCKOLD

>>128840043
fuck economics WE WANT GREATNESS AND HEROISM NOT A FAT STACK OF NIGGERBUX
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See, this is what I like about namefags. It's like if Jews went out and bought themselves a yellow star to save us the effort.
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>Autist confirmed.
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>>128840132
Sven brought it up and they discussed it for about 10 minutes in the latest TDS. Their interpretation of the concept was that the old systems are essentially on life-support and trying to co-opt them is asinine. They saw it as the notion the "nation" had devolved into the "nation-state" and lost its original purpose, and as such a new nation must be formed from interpersonal relations between individuals rather than seizing control of the current nation-state. Sven was on-board, Mike was indifferent and wanted to talk with the author, and Mosley saw it as just one of the prongs in the two-pronged approach the modern WN movement has undertaken. It was a completely split-consensus and to assert that TRS is shilling the concept is beyond retarded.
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This is some dumb shit. Maybe this is applicable in America.
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>>128840736
Seems like they just discuss it.
The whole concept is defeatist, but if you actually read my comment, I think I made an apt analogy: it is the white nationalist's "Samson option". It is a "what if" scenario.
>>128841042
That's the gist of it I took away, too.
It seems pragmatic, but not ideal. Like I said, it seems to be a "what if" situation. IF whites become a minority and IF they lose all sense of unity, then the white nationalists will have to become tribal. But that's where the entire movement becomes redundant: white nationalists are, by definition and in this hypothetical circumstance, tribal and value the in-group (white in-group).
It seems to just be a reminder of "hey WN, don't forget to be WN even if you're a minority and work against the powers that be which have replaced your people". That is obvious, no shit WN will always harbour those sentiments in that circumstance.
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>>128839694
Please...
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>>128826633
I like 5PT now because you are a fag
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>>128825239
>Croatia
>Bloated Kike
what did they mean by that
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>>128841362
kys 5PTfag
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>>128844325
biump
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>>128841313
i think you need to change that australian character to an asian as well, chang goong fuk
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>>128825239
fuck TRSIDF shills
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>>128846752
T H I S
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>>128847189
Andrew Anglin said whites should be bred out and only sleeps with non-white women.

https://media.christogenea.org/videos/evalion/anglin-iconoclast-radio-promoting-race-mixing
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>>128847700
Anglin was obv. joking to shock ppl though
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buuouomp
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>1/4 caucasus mountain nigger
>looks like one
>won't be considered white in Russia
>Best racist in america
le 56%
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>>128850095
T H I S
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>>128825239
>this thread
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You cant doxx me you little twat xD althought I invite you to it :P you little nonwhite cuckboy
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>>128850650
cuck

>>128851224
nigger
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>>128825239
Oh look, it's a new TRS/alt-right hate thread by the same faggot as always.
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>>128851662
DEATH TO THE AUSTRALIAN LARPFAGGOT COCKSUCKERS WHO KISS TRS KIKE BOOTS
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>>128851936
bump
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>>128825239
Based Moarpheus always dropping the real redpills. Your work doesn't go unnoticed.
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>>128854960
thanks u brother, much respect 4 u
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>>128826127
wtf is TRS
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everyday this fucking garbage.

go kys moarpheus.
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>>128825239
Absolutely based. By all means keep spamming this.

I fucking hate TRS and their cringy LARPing as "subversion masters" with their retarded raids on /pol/, like the ones they did with Milo and Spencer
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>>128855611
fuck off your dirty TRS meme trash

We are going to expose u TRASH

>>128855775
this
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>>128856230
>We are going to expose u TRASH
yeah, i bet "u" are going to expose all the trash. and debunk them, too!

how about you go and expose your asshole to your boyfriends at shariablue.
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>>128856650
stupid turk
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>>128856716
>ur not real german

100% pure swabian phenotype, my veins seethe with the fienst suebi blood, friendo.
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>>128857123
fuck u i have thuringian and swiss blood in my veins, you're just a dumb TRSnigger

No TRS fan can be a real Germanic. Fuck off niggerlover.
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>>128857251
>swiss blood in my veins

explains the retardation and obsessive behavior desu.
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>>128858450
HOW THE FUCK
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>>128856230
>We

just terrible at shilling
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No wonder you are so cucky, you got german blood. Germans lost the war now theyre comiting suicide. Seems like the war fuck you up so bad you are just destined to fail.
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>>128860532
lucky for u im leaving in 20 minutes for my retail ass job, fuck u

if i was sticking around all day id BTFO you to hell n back just by typing

and u'd be crying like a whore haha

faggot
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>>128860687
>retail
I shouldn't be surprised, you are a schitzo.
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>>128860687
did you dox me already? retail master race? :^)
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>>128826027
Time cube is truth
Adults are educated stupid
1 day god is 1/4 real God
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>>128861036
working is very important for mental health of schizos t b h, at least thats what he got for him
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>>128861144
IM
NOT
SCHIZO
IM JUST
ANGRY
FUCK OFF
TRSNIGGER
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>>128861334
you are a loon, pls dox me senpai :^)
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>>128861481
my riend said he will get back to me on it asshole, ur polish ass is going down

i will never forgive or forget u

i thoiuht about u alot and your occult chaos magick BS wont fuck my bran up because im on guard

u are exposed kike bitch
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If 5 pints gets you drunk you're a absolute lightweight and probably not a white man.
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>>128861541
yeah im sure, you are just a little insecure schizo, seek help before you off yourself
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>>128861618
im 6 foot 4 nigger i am stronger than any0ne on this board

>>128861654
I have theray and a job, what do you have? you're just a sassy queer
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>>128861618
>american flag
>probably not a white man
what do you think?
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>>128861695
I told you, I'm an MD (dox me!) I help fellow whites while you anonymously screech from behind a keyboard
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>>128861654
>before you off yourself
you wish, kike, im never gonna stop persecuting you into the grave

my crusade on TRS is not going to end EVER

I'm a permamember on infinitychan's /trs/ board we EXPOSE U KIKES

>>128861761
stupid niggerposter GTFO i dont respect u
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>>128861888
a random schizo doesnt respect me, how will I recover?
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>>128862120
u get off to interracil p0rno sickboi??
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>>128861888
>posts per hour: 0
>active users (past 3 days): 1
>posts: 2851
Wew lad.
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>>128862192
do you? :^)
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>>128862349
bump, faggot
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>>128861888
>>128862274
Actually, I'm pretty sure the last non-you post on that board was 4 days ago.
Poor guy, must be lonely.
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>>128862665
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>>128862665
>bumping his own thread
>typing with his face
>generally not knowing shit and being an anklebiter
checks out desu
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>>128840736
>>128840736
>fuck economics
Good goy. Ignore the reasoning behind reproduction, keep thinking economics is only applicable to money.
While we're at it, the ethnic group cannot function without the nation. The nation falls without tribes (or communities, in modern terms), the tribe ceases to exist without families, the families can be undone by a single individual.
If you cannot think objectively, you cannot think at all.
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>>128825239
>59 posts by this ID
it´s this guy again
SAGE
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>>128863053
dude, just let him be a retard, I enjoy it
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>>128833998
you have to admit. after the doxxing the shoah fuckign sucks now. they had like 2 good eps since the doxxing
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>>128830727
What podcasts would you recommend?
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>>128864917
Based Wendy and her hot and juicy pussy.
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>>128825239
Death to all stormweenies 2bh
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>>128865072
Hey, stormies are friends.
This one can go eat an economics book.
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>>128830727
>Fuck off niggerlover.
lol but she used to be a coalburner

She's part of the crowd of people that criticises literally everyone that's more popular than themselves.
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What the hell is going on? Who are TRS? What are they promoting?
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>called out for saying economic shouldn't be paid attention to
>asked 'who should I pay to instead'
>he disappears
OH WHERE DID YOU GOOOOO
HUH
WHERE DID YOU GOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>128831833
>why did they lost
I didn't realise the course of war is an ideological issue instead of a military one

Do you think a commie/liberal government would've won that war?
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>>128863257
fuck u

goin to work bye im late faggots
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>>128865510
problem is nat-retards instigated a war they werent prepared for, that makes them just plain dumb

reality is Hitler had to start a war because his shitty policies bankrupted the country
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>>128865522
kek
imagine being this uneconomic with your time
no wonder he's as knowledgeable as a commie
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>>128826027
60 posts, the guy is off his fucking rocker
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>>128865733
wow did u learn that from a history channel docu

The country was so bankrupted, their debt as a percentage of GDP was decreased!
They weren't armed for the war, but they were also running a gigantic war economy!
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>>128865868
now we wait for the news of 19 old skinny shitskin murdering his parents, I'm convinced he will go haywire after several days of this
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>>128865868
fuck u im fine im just a little unstable fuck off

gotta fucking rush im late as fuck

bye u dirty dumb faggots keep exposing TRS if u side with them u all get the gas
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>>128831474
>reject Christianity
>I should be in charge

nice try Achmed
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>>128865891
still, the economy was unsustainable and the war economy was to small to match the soviets

look the bottom line is natsoc led idiots rule over the proud german nation and led them to a catstrophe of epic proportions and you guys screech all day long how natsoc lets the strongest govern
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>>128865458
therightstuff, known for their podcast the daily shoah.
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>>128866170
Britain and France declaring war on Germany isn't natsocs fault.

The economy was fine, but they should've actually been creating a war economy.
In the end, the war could've been won with various factors having been different, but creating an actual war economy would've pretty much ensured victory.

Germany losing the war doesn't mean Hitler fucked up.
They hate him because he applied a solution. There's no solution that will not look like NS on paper.
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>>128867192
The solution to the germcuck nation. Also Hilters war killed around 60mln white people. It's insulting to whites to suck hitlers cock under the guise of white improvement. Now that germany is flooded with muslims the problem is no more.
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>>128867761
Hitler did not declare war on the west, they declared war on him.
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>>128867819
did poland declare war on germany?

this is retarded nazi apologetics, no one is interested in, especialy when nazis got their asses handed to them
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>>128868013
Poland refused to negotiate with Germany because they had a pact with the UK.
Everyone involved agreed the German demands were reasonable.

After the first day of the war, Germany offered to retreat if the demands were met, Poland refused, hoping that Germany would be defeated by the Western powers.
Poland actively wanted war because they wanted Germany to be a lesser power again.

You must be legally retarded if you think Germany wanted war with the Western powers, or planned for it.
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Our honor is our loyalty right ?
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>>128825239
The poz button and Rebel Yell are pretty good. The rest of it is cringey shotposting in mp3 form.

I doubt they are shills. Just fags and brainlets.
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>>128825239
What is TRS?
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>>128870811
>>128866820
Ah I see. Never heard of them.
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>>128871285
how fucking new are you?
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>>128871285
They're to thank for the echo meme((())).
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5th PT is some pretty good stuff. I have literally 0 in common with normies and they'd rather throw me under the bus to signal how anti racist they are than lift a single finger against the establishment.
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