Transhumanism General Thread -- From Humanity's Corpse it rises.

I want to FUCK that chick

>>128806663
With your benis?

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Key tenants to transhumanism.

- Willful evolution: ex- via engineering of AI or designer humans.
- Not just transformation of environment or culture but of underlying beings that drive things. So while most focus on transforming things around humans, trans humanism focuses on changing humanity into something new.
- Disconnection from human bias and attachment to magical things such as free will or humanity being special. Just machines.

transhumanism is not about immortality or mind uploading. Those are simply selfish human bias goals. While those might be a future prospect, transhumanism should not be based on wish fulfillment but rather a natural understanding of the pattern of survival and evolution.

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The future contains humans only in a "pet" or "zoo" role.

>>128806874
>transhumanism is not about immortality or mind uploading. Those are simply selfish human bias goals.

I just want transhumanism so that we can raise the IQs of niggers and make places like Detroit livable.

>>128806463

Damn, I thought that was Baily Jay.

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>>128807539
Of course. The thing is are you going to stop at a +15 IQ increase? What about just raising black IQ to white levels?

The thing about transhumanism is that it is so shockingly transformative and basically unstoppable. The progress doesn't just stop. Medieval people might have just imagined a future with abundant food and less disease as being perfect.

Simply not being dumb criminal IQ won't be the point we stop at. It doesn't end. We are touching on the beginnings of editing DNA and creating entirely new life forms in the form of AI.

>>128807994
How much improvement until we cease to become human?

>>128806463
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>>128807994
The door to Hell is closed from within.

The concepts of the left, like transgender or gay rights. Are entirely pathetic compared to true possibilities. In a way it will be a kind of "post modernist" value system but completely opposed to it at the same time. It's just an entirely new higher layer of abstraction we have never touched before.

You could simply edit the new baby to have zero sex drive or an amazing nympho one. The questions we left up to god or chance become up to humanity to change. While at the same time humanity itself will be dying off in the process of change or possibly some unimaginable AI singularity scenario.

Basically we are in the process of tapping into powers akin to what we thought of as God's domain.

>>128806463

I'm all for gene-editing and eugenic breeding but turning my brain or perfectly healthy body into something the NSA can backdoor is a hard nope.

>>128808198
It's ongoing.

Your cell phone. Your computer. The media driving you and environment. It is already transhuman. We are already in extreme crazy land as compared to natural human life. Just compare a natural human in the amazon to an American teen.

Assuming just external technology that aids you in your tasks you are already becoming less important every day. You can easily imagine a world without AI or genetic engineering where you basically just play VR stuff and have automated farms.

That is sort of an end state not possible because of AI / genetic engineering possibilities though.

If we look at say the difference between a rabbit and a dog. The difference between humans now and 200 years ago is vaster.

>>128806874
I want my immortality though

(((Transhumanism))). Jews like the prefix "trans-".

>>128808982
It becomes too bias-inducing to contemplate it on personal gain. You should contemplate it on natural evolutionary patterns we can see and predict from.

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Nothing to add. Just spreading the kpop love.

been reading posthumanism a guide for the perplexed. covers a lot of these topics.

>>128809197
A controlled evolution has a pattern based on how society interacts. People will just upgrade in a way to:
A) Extend lifetime
B) Make work easier in certain niche workplaces that offer the resources to upgrade (Construction, supersoldiers, administrative, etc)
C) Fetishism or cosmetic upgrades
D) Expand DONG
E) Better offspring for those able to afford it, slowly dividing society in an upper class of ubermensch and baseline humans who cannot afford it (Mostly niggers and neets)

>>128809197

Can I do it with the focus of exploring and understanding the Universe? this is literally the only reason I don't want to die.

>>128806463

Make it a fascist ethnostate automated production driven by the power of AI, Eugenics for the optimal population and super vertical farms.

Iron, Blood and Silicon.

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how do white girls even compete?

MAKE IT FASCIST, MAKE IT VOLKISCH.

I can fuck with that futurist fascist ethnostate fully automated industries shit.

It's the ultimate utopy dreamstate.

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>>128809917
Asians are a gateway to pedophilia. Just look at that unnatural youth standard portrayed in Kpop. This shit needs to be illegal and banned. Get a real women pedos.

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>giving control of your entire being to some corporation

good goy

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>>128806463
Actually thats not too far from my fetish.

When ever im jacking it, I imagine myself fucking Danny Trejo from the back while Ellen Degeneres beats me senseless with a Louisville Slugger and calls me a fine gentleman.

The dream is achievable.

Never give up hope

>>128808198
The singularity is the point at which our present selves wouldn't be able to understand the behavior of our future selves.

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>>128806463
I don't want immortality, and I don't want to become a cyborg. Gene improvement for me is okay, as long as it doesn't start adding new organs or anything.

I'm not sure about how I feel about android waifus. My mind tells me degenerate, my dick and fetishes tell me it's great.

>>128810464

they are 16 or 17

not really pedophilia since they have tits and look old enough for breeding

>>128806463
Sounds like another Larp to me....
>most powerful and strongest ideology

Seriously dude?

>>128810319
Do you think the human body/mind is best at this?

Do you think with 10000 IQ you will still be remotely the same person or thing?

>>128810481

Why not to the party?

>>128809917
from the left.
yes, yes, yes, yes.

>>128810464
>Unnatural youth
It's because Asians have superior aging genetics and they eat healthier. They don't buy into for fad neo-pleistocene diets and they stay away from the sun.

You faggots need to familiarize yourself with the writings of Hugo de Garis.

This shit is game over for us.

trans humanist national socialism

is it possible

>>128810714
Survival drives everything. Every ideology survives because of how will it spreads and reproduces within humans. A transhumanist society will utterly dominate a conservative, liberal, SJW, or whatever else society.

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>>128810440
They cant
Pic related, shes believed to be futaba-chan admin and a neet, literally wife material.

>>128806463
People are too retarded to prevent Trans humanism from making the human race into a bother for the global elite

>>128810807

I don't really care, the pursuit of the unknown is the only reason for existence Imo.

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>>128810125
>C) Fetishism or cosmetic upgrades
Darn right we're gonna be embracing our fetishes.

In all seriousness though, is a transhumanist future going to be more, or less, degenerate than modern society?

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>>128806463
>tfw people unironically think whites will go extinct because whites in western/northern Europe are committing ethnic suicide via mass migration
>tfw people don't realize that the chinese are so in love with white gene structures that when they rule the world they'll recreate blondes and gingers because they find them beautiful and make their kids look like them.

It'll be interesting to see how it develops if people forgo having kids that look like themselves and go for designer babbies.

I should write a scifi novel about white-looking Chinese space colonialists

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>>128806463

you are a fucking pleb baby

>>128810125
the real question is when will this occur. I figure after space ring/asteroid mining

>>128810440

With breasts, hips, and children that aren't little Elliot Rodger psycho-mutts

>>128811423
eh, that type of writing bores me.

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I have already ascended, Dahnald.

With the powers of the fabled Galactigates, we shall uplift humanity together, and find our empire stretched across the multiverse.

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>>128811228
>>128810125
>C) Fetishism or cosmetic upgrades
you're right, how could I be so foolish?

>>128811614
>eh, that type of writing bores me.

try xenosystems.net or @outsideness twitter, much easier to stomach

>>128806463
You transhumanists will get what you are asking for soon enough. Satan has trapped the souls of the dead -who aren't born again- into the bodies of synthetic bug-human hybrids (called locusts) that have no free will and can only answer to a hive mind.

>>128812108
thanks Satan, the extra labor will be needed

>>128807994
National Transhumansim will rise. A synthesis of ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. You see tribalism will always be with mankind unless you rip it out by force. Most people won't accept such a thing, so you can expect them to create their own tribes. In regards to tribalism there is memetic tribalism and genetic tribalism. Ethnic nationalism is a primarily genetic and partially memetic form of tribalism. Civic nationalism is simply a memetic form of tribalism. What transhumanism will do is actually synthesize memetic and genetic tribalism. A aryan ethnostate will be able to accept immigrants as long as they genetically modify themselves to be white for instance.

This goes on further, you claim we will become truly "transhuman" as in going beyond what it means to be human, however, "we" is not universal. Every person does not have the same ideal in mind when thinking of transhumanism. What will happen is various "ideals" will form throughout the world. This will lead to ethnocentrism.

>>128811093
Yes, but what makes you think transhumanist societies will be unified? Evolution requires competition after all.

>>128807994
Ok I have a question for you.

The universe is infinite. There are billions and trillions of worlds out there.

So given that, why can't humans be preserved on Earth in their original form? There's plenty of room out there to build a transhumanist utopia. And once you get away from human necessities such as a 20% oxygen atmosphere and a 24 hours day/night cycle, there really is no reason that this transhumanist machine must be contained on Earth. Transhumanism can exist literally everywhere, but humanity can only exist in one place.

>>128806463
> "genetically engineered" is code for race-mixed. Dogs are bred = genetically selected = engineered.
> "AI" is code for Facebook has you by the balls

Science fiction is not real.

>>128812645
I think there will be a tribe of purist humans that reject all forms of genetic modification. Which is not a bad thing. It would be very stupid to get rid of the natural humans. I mean what if our genetic engineering technology is fatally flawed in some unforseen way. I consider myself a particularist and agree with you, at the very least purists should be granted equal rights.

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The best thing US transhumanists can do now is support Zoltan Istvan's libertarian campaign for Governor of California

--basic income
--increase in research and technology
--support for disability and wounded soliders via technology

>>128813047
His brand of transhumanism is weak and not the best spokesperson. Nope.

>>128806463
Genetic engineering still sucks cock, and will for the foreseeable future. If you want to be involved in a gene editing clinical trial, I bid you to enjoy getting cancer and giving your children birth defects.
>t. CRISPR-Cas9 biologist

>>128813036
We have a duty to those that bore us.

Humans have a duty to preserve the lower animals. Keep natural environments and natural life cycles intact. Just as a son has a duty to their parents and their ancestors.

Any transhumanists which emerge should have a duty to serve, protect, and defend, the unaltered human race

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>implying that transhumanism is a strong ideology when you have ZERO fucking idea how it will be in reality

we can't even figure out the universal ethics behind getting transgender people to use the bathroom in public, now you think we're ready to hack peoples brains and replace fully functioning body parts with mechanical ones? all of you are out of your fucking minds

>>128806774
Nah, with my 6 vibrating mechanical tentacles. This is a transhumanism thread, isn't it?

>>128806463
Wouldn't they just genetically/cybernetically alter you to be docile and unquestioning slaves with a limited capacity for complex thought and free will?

>>128812277
One of the big results of transhumanism is less "magical" belief. Meaning things like free will give way to determinism. Right now you have belief systems based largely on imaginary things and when you can start to predict behavior or IQ based on gene tests that goes away. Not to mention the possibilities of AI.

If you get plugged into a machine that shows your exact thought patterns and how you put together say a sentence, that is a huge awakening. Right now we operate in the darkness and similar to earlier patterns, ex: germ theory vs witch curses, we will replace the magic of free will with the cold hard reality of determinism.

In such a deterministic driven universe without the concept of free will as we view it today. AKA being in control of your own actions, things change far more.

The idea of such basic concepts like ethnostates will not even register to people. Human freedom won't even exist as a concept people acknowledge.

>>128813047
If you feed all animals equally, within 3 generations, they will degenerate into fat, slovenly genetic waste. No longer will they be sleek, fierce, beautiful. Free breeding will shred their genome faster than radiation

There needs to be competition for resources, mates, status, and the like. Otherwise there are not evolutionary pressures keeping the genes healthy

>>128813336
http://engineeringbiologycenter.org/

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>>128812277
The nation's values will shape what kind of human comes out of a transhumanist movement. This is why nationalism is so important in a transhumanist movement; without it globalists and capitalists will just genetically engineer the perfect slave worker.

We need to fight like hell to make sure the virtues which be believe in are enshrined in the humans we engineer.

>>128806463
i wonder how many pro-transhumanists have ever had an out of body experience or full body orgasm.

these people are brain dead garbage who've lived as an animal, not a human being.

>>128813998
Computers are already perfect slaves.

i'm pretty happy with the progress SENS has made in the past years, i think basic cellular level cleanup will be here within 10 years.

>>128813656
Increasing knowledge will actually wake people up to things such as the hard problem of consciousness. The redditor futurists of this world like to think that all that exists is the physical. Technological advancement will lead to a neo-spiritual revival, one based on evidence and argument rather than dogmatism.

Eutelegenisis is the future. We can breed super humans with sperm.
We already have transhumanism. Humans use tools every day.

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what's better, korean girls or japanese girls?

>>128813379
We don't need to figure out any of that shit. It won't matter. Why do you think it will matter what some State thinks? A superintelligence won't be constrained by a bathroom law. A 200 IQ superhuman society isn't going to listen to what the old people think.

>>128814444
Tools are used to enhance and accessorize a man. They are objects shaped by his will and under his control.

Transhumanism is quite different, this has to do with man tampering with his internals to change his basic nature

It's like, a microphone enhances a computer. It gives it more capability so that it might better serve it's designated function. But if a computer could reprogram it's own software, that's transhumanism

>>128814415
The whole consciousness problem is stupid in my opinion. It doesn't need to be solved for anything special to happen.

>>128813181
Or maybe those cancers and birth defects are the result of you and your fellow researchers being shit at your jobs.

>>128806463
Stick to Deus Ex.

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>>128814662
Korean

bump

transhumanist fascist party now

>>128807414

This.

You will even have to beg your masters to let you do fun things.

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>>128810125
>>128811878
>>128810506
Born too late to explore the New World, born too early to explore space, born just in time to explore my fetishes.

>>128810481

Dank

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>>128814662
Obvi Korean.

>>128816223
Just a few days till comeback!!!

>>128814663
There will be a cold war between China and the west in regards to transhumanism.

>>128813656
I think you seem to forget the progression from right this very moment to the technological capability you describe. A lot of things happen in between. Your posts on transhumanism are far future, my view is near future. We've never been able to predict far future accurately. You're naive if you think the conclusions you make now with your above average IQ can adequately predict the far future. It is completely and utterly unpredictable. However, in the near future ethnocentric transhuman nationalism is coming.

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>>128813656
>One of the big results of transhumanism is less "magical" belief.
>Meaning things like free will give way to determinism.

What makes you think there still won't be magical belief? There is a link between intelligence and depression, perhaps magical thinking itself is necessary to prevent a nihilistic mass suicide.

>>128824075
My posts are not far future.

Imagine you are describing the coming industrialization era. You would naturally want to describe it as the process of humans unlocking stored energy and other sources of energy to increase their production. Similar to green revolution with better seeds or agricultural processes.

Describing it along the political route doesn't really make sense. The ethnocentric/Nationalism portion aren't important. If anything the political arena is pathetic and just based on incremental changes to huge bloated systems. Not really the type of thing that is very interesting.

You can abstract out individual family competition, corporation competition, national competition and still result in transhumanism.

>>128825073
Pattern recognition. "Magical belief" is just shitty pattern recognition.

Person A gets sick because God B is angry.

It's simply bad pattern recognition that we have improved. On the subject of human behavior and the human brain we still have terrible pattern recognition because of the complexity of the problem and our bias towards not wanting to be machines or part of the physical world. There still will be magical belief but it will be of the cutting edge complexities of which the human brain will not be a part of.

Human society will not be magical. Hence stupid societal organizations will be nearly meaningless.

>>128826712
Meaning, humans may want ethno nation states. That won't matter when human designs become meaningless.

>>128807994
Sounds a lot like communism - elimination of freedom for the good for all. Don't worry, it's consensual.

>>128806463
I'm an apocalypse accelerationist. We are the real most powerful idea. We seek the destruction of all life on earth. Transhumanism is not going to happen because we will destroy all life before it does.

>>128814662
>>>128806463 (OP)
Who is this yoni oni?

>>128808319
Indeed.

>>128813560
This. This is the chief reason why I'm not on board with it, aside from your body rejecting parts or cancer if you go the genetic modification route.

>>128806463
>Transhumanism is the most powerful and strongest ideology currently.

What in the fuck are you smoking?

>>128806874
Some transhumanists dream of immortality. It's the only thing keeping me going.

Some arrangement of non-biological atoms can give rise to consciousness, or you believe in some other worldly soul.

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>>128826712
>>128826912
>My posts are not far future.
>Pattern recognition. "Magical belief" is just shitty pattern recognition.
>Human society will not be magical. Hence stupid societal organizations will be nearly meaningless.

You've ignored my point. Throughout human history there is one constant, scarcity of resources. This scarcity leads to competition between tribes. My vision of the future is simply tribes leveraging increasingly advanced technologies to acquire resources for their tribe. This happened during the agrarian revolution, the industrial revolution and all other technological revolutions. Unless transhumanism makes the finite mass in this universe infinite, the thing same will happen as before.

>That won't matter when human designs become meaningless.

You claim the future of humanity is simply nothing more than a bunch of robots replicating themselves very efficiently. That's not posthuman, that's simply death. It's a possible future I give you that, but you underestimate humanity. Transhumanism will result in limitless variations, with limitless possibilities. In some of those variations, human design will not be meaningless. Furthermore, this is all far future conjecture. Unless you have faith in some sort of singularity, it will not happen in the near future.

Don't post Arin in this vile place

>>128809197
you should be able to choosebetween reproduction or imortality, so long as you pursue progress for all eternity.

>>128807994
>t raising black IQ to white levels?
that would just make smarter criminals, how is that even a good thing

Transhumanism really is the strongest ideology. Even if it's still largely sci-fi magical thinking, I'm ready to join a National Transhumanist party, the ideas behind it are much more inspiring than anything Democrats or Republicans can offer. If there's even a 1% chance that genetic engineering can take off within the next 1-5 decades, humans should be pursuing that aggressively, at the expense of all else. All of the petty little social issues that rule the politics of the day really don't amount to jack shit by comparison. Withdraw all funding of social services and throw it into research. Black lives don't matter, neither does Aleppo, nothing does, in the face of eugenics, genetically engineered superintelligence, robot vision, and general AI

TRANSHUMANISM IS SATANIC
IT'S ALL ABOUT SELLING YOUR SOUL TO TECHNOLOGY TO BECOME MORE POWERFULL
BURN IN HELL SINNERS

>>128807539
When we get that far- shitholes like that will be far gone. Existing infrastructure will be left to the poor. The new infrastructure will be something we'll be lucky to experience

>>128808894
This- we practically have digital avatars and we've fucked ourselves for doing this without the proper prep

>>128806463
white people are transhuman
we're the next step
the jews knew it so they started WWI WWII and took over America and here we are now
We need the top 10% of whites bunker up, neutron bomb the world and reclaim America as the seat of civilization in the universe

>>128810440
In gymnastics. Ha ha yellowfervor BTFO!

>>128806463
Every day when I go for my walk I think about what I have termed the "copying problem" (it may have another name I'm not aware of). The problem is whether or not when a human consciousness is uploaded to a computer if you "die" or if your consciousness lives on within the computer.

It bothers me quite a bit. I think until we can definitively solve this problem I will be wary of all transhumanism. I also have other reservations.

Here, in the safety of anonymity I will tell you I yearn for us to investigate the mystical and see what may be discovered there that may change the way we think about our destiny.

>>128813560
Yes. No one here seems to understand that the state is against the individual. They think this because they assume that the state will be an Aryan only regime that gives everything to whites, or they are dumb and want to give their life to the industrialization void and see what kinds of matrix machines we can make if we throw enough human minds away

>>128808894
There is very little of me that exists outside my computer at this point.

>>128814111
We must defend the sanctity of the natural human form and condition. We need fully defensible compounds and communities to fight against this ultimate evil.

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I just want to live in a Deus Ex inspired technocratic shithole.

>>128830011
Shilling for Soros, don't mind him

>>128835351
Get the fuck out, I won't let you convince people to jump from the already ridiculous idea of forced American communism (that TOTALLY IS COOL FASCISM AND NOT COMMUNISM GUISE) to a forced AI takeover. Sigh, I knew this day would come.

Transhumanism is patrician-level ideology. Nazis, 'race realists' and other assorted garbage are pretty much dumb plebs.

>>128806874
>Disconnection from human bias and attachment to magical things such as free will or humanity being special. Just machines.
Heresy.

>>128837134
If those "Nazis" would be in charge we already would have full body implants you moron.

>>128811597
You'd. Of the three hapas that I grew up with. Only one of them is a successful computer engineer (if you think being spergy and obnoxious is succcessful). The other two have drug and emotional problems.

>>128837277
Even if everything about racial differences could be proven empirically true, the ability to modify ourselves via either gene therapy or machines would not just defeat such an ideology, it would render it completely obsolete. Nazism consistent of more or less treated humans as cattle, farm animals where a dysfunctional centrally planned government could breed traits it considered desirable. It might sound similar in principle, but the mindset is very different.

Transhumanism would enpower humans to take control of their OWN destiny, to be whoever they wanted to be.

>>128837667
>Transhumanism would enpower humans to take control of their OWN destiny, to be whoever they wanted to be.
And?
National Socialism wouldn't try to stop that.

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>>128837790
Not really. The Nazi ideal of the ubermensch was an ideal enforced by the government. People who did not fit that ideal could not express pride themselves and would often be destroyed. My view of transhumanism is one which embraces a kind of libertarian approach the self, one of enpowered individuals where the positive traits would be encouraged by what society as a whole deemed desirable, organically and without coercion or threats of violence.

This technology would still have relevance in a nazi society, but it would be about using it to make humanity the slaves and image of someone else's fetish of the ideal human. I want transhumanism to enpower the individual. Big difference.

>>128838421
>The Nazi ideal of the ubermensch was an ideal enforced by the government. People who did not fit that ideal could not express pride themselves and would often be destroyed.
Alright then, it looks like professor Goldberg already "expanded your mind with knowledge"

>>128814662
Why not both?

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>>128806463
the problem with plasticorean androids is they lack any sort of empathy and social awareness required for a cooperating and thriving society
>Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B4lLXiHH1A

>>128837790
Are we in holohoax territory? I just want to know what page we're on so we have a mutual understanding.

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>>128806463

Psychopaths are probably a form of synthetic or altered humanoid. The singularity already happened.

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>>128838080
>blue stripey panties

>>128838779
You were the one that was "THOSE EVIL NAZEES WOULDN'T LET ME FUCK MY ANDROID WAIFU"

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>nobody will miss one
>there's like 10, and they all look the same
https://youtu.be/-FE0u3gi07M

>>128811675
>we could be exploring Andromeda by now if we elected Ted

shit timeline

>>128838951
I don't think I was. I don't know what modern equivalent of the German Nazis would look like, but the one thing I do know is that their would be PAINFULLY outdated in a world where transhumanism is super effective and super affordable to the majority of the world. It's an ideology rooted in an early 20th century understanding of genetics.

The one thing I do know is that the people these days who call themselves 'nazis' are painfully outdated. They're either shitty LARPers or edgelords, and have basically no sense of awareness of just how different the world is now compared to the 1930s.

If the question was whether they would let me fuck my android waifu, they probably would consider that pretty degenerate. There doesn't seem to much place in a Nazi world for doing things which don't contribute to the immediate strengthening of the race. If we entered a world where we literally start shedding our very biology, then yes, Nazism would look like even more of a ridiculous anachronism than it does already.

>>128839611
Look at you, posting long arguments that I won't even read.
Have fun with your robot wife though.

>>128806463
>bypassing the norms of roght/left thought
Yeah transhumanism is pretty centrist, OP.

And centrism is the only good political viewpoint.

>>128838951
Hey, we're on a board for discussion, so why are you running away from having your views challenged.

More to the point, a lot of modern Nazis to me seem like deeply unhappy individuals, perpetually angry and unsatisfied. Compare the general mood of /pol/ to other boards on this site which take a more chilled approach to life and sexuality, and I think you'll find you're forcing yourself into a mindset which destined to just make you more and more unhappy.

There will never be a point where a Nazi worldview will make you satisfied in your own existence. No matter how much things change, you will always see degenerates wherever you go. There will never be a point where you will be satisfied, and the grass will always look greener. Truth hurts, but that's how it is.

And thanks, I think a lot of people would enjoy that too.

>>128839896
It seems like eugenics in another form.
Not that thats bad, but a lot of people have to die

>>128810481
>what is open source

>>128813482
Kek

>>128840090
Well, to be fair, a lot of people are extremely right-wing or left-wing. That kind of garbage isn't really necessary for a fruotful civilisation

>>128840090
Not necessarily, one of the arguments I was making comparing Nazism to a world where genetic modification was easy and cheap is that people wouldn't have to die. We would just be able to better and improve ourselves naturally over the course of just a couple of generations. Everyone would be able to improve their cognitive abilities through biological modifications.

>>128840068
>Compare the general mood of /pol/ to other boards on this site which take a more chilled approach to life and sexuality
Except that's not true, it doesn't matter where you go on this site, people will shout at each other regardless.
Also, you really need to educate yourself on National Socialism if you think it's about controlling everyone.

>>128840384
If you think thats going to be smooth, i think youve overestimated people

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>>128822784
I like Japs better.

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Thank you for making this thread. I think we should name it something else. How about Right-wing Transhumanism?

I recommend the book, "Man, The Unknown" by Alexis Carrel.

Reminder that everything is science.

Join my Transhumanism Telegram group:
t.me/posthumanism

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>>128808466
All as God intended, he did create us in his image after all.

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>>128806463
Fuck this shit, we're all going to end up enslaved by AIs, Butlerian Jihad when?

>>128840557
I have educated myself, and I'm well aware of the fact for example that Hitler tried peaceful means at first, but it didn't worked out. I even know that he proposed Zionism as an idea to get the Jews out of Germany. The problem is, these solutions will never work and will always end in violence. I also know that Nazism did allow free markets, ect., but everything was expected to be done in the interest of the state. I'm not condemning Nazism strictly as authoritarian, there probably have been many more authoritarian regimes throughout human history, I'm condemning it as a failed ideology which is designed to be inherently cannibalistic and self-destructive, since its ideals can NEVER be achieved.

I mean, come on, at least most Communists will look at things like the Soviet Union and point them out as massive bureaucratic failures. This is the problem with so many modern Nazis is they're so intent on trying to repeat the failures of that ONE regime who's failure so spectacular, it results in the biggest war in human history. Being fucking edgelords doesn't help your case either.

Seriously, for your own sake and sanity, it's time to move on.

>>128841471
Oh yeah, totally.
The ideology itself was the reason it failed.
Totally.
I mean, it's not like it improved German economy right?
It totally didn't fail because whole world was against it existing.
Thank you for opening my eyes.
faggot

>>128806463
I'm starting to get the impression that you're just a fat kid who really wants to fuck cyborgs.

>>128841721
It did improve the economy, yes, but is the literally the only metric you're going to judge it by. It's more likely that the reason many Germans turned to Nazism is because the rest of Europe completely fucked Germany with the Treaty of Versailles. The whole world was against them because they fucking invaded most of Europe, and you should know. As I've said, the psychology the Nazi will never be sated.

You're wrong actually, a lot of people at the time were actually willing to be complicit in Nazism because they saw it as an effective weapon against communism. That ended when Hitler decided to start invading shit, and it became obvious pretty quickly that it was a destructive ideology which could not be allowed to fester.

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Anyone of you who doesn't already know that transhumanism is part of the elite agenda to gain control of the population needs to do more research. OF COURSE there will be a time for transhumanism to take place but do you really think it's safe to allow yourself to be further controlled when the world is still run by (((them)))?

>>128842360
>they tried to be peaceful
>actually I've changed my mind, they were the agressors lol
Also using the word "nazi" makes me believe you don't know about National Socialism that much.

>>128842679
I know 'nazi' is a slang term other people used for Nationalism Socialism. I'm not an idiot.

That doesn't change my point. It doesn't matter whether they 'tried' to be peaceful or not, the point is that the ideology simply will not allow them to peaceful. When they realise their goals are simply impossible to be achieved through peaceful means, the mindset will have no choice but to turn to violence.

The thing is, all you've been doing is sitting on the sidelines sneering say 'urgh...you don't now anything', yet you've not refuted any of my points. That's pretty pathetic you know. To be honest, I think it's you who needs get a little more educated on history.

>>128814662
Vietnamese.

>>128842679
I mean, tell me why I'm wrong. I mean we can go down the holohoax rabbit hole if that's really where you're hinting at, but even then, invading half of Europe doesn't help much of your case of the Nazis being peaceful dindu nuthins.

>>128842953
And please, tell me what ideology wasn't involved in a war?

>>128806463

You wish to create the perfect nest for unconquerable tyranny. This "ideology" would spell the death for sentient life. Please stop thinking and do something constructive.

>>128843162
I'm not trying to justify any other ideology, I'm just trying to get you to justify Nazism as peaceful. As I mentioned though, Second World War was also pretty unique in being probably the biggest war in human history. I just looked up the statistics, and the estimates are that of about 40 to 85 MILLION people dying in that war in a mere 6 years.

>>128843162
To be fair, I know I'm probably going pretty hard on you, but you don't seem like a particularly bright Nazi-apologist, you know.

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>>128806463
>he thinks he'll be allowed into the transhumanist club of the globalist elite

You're just meat
That's all that you are and all you will ever be
You hold no value
You're a disposable slave

>>128841317
If god made us in his image, then he is one flawed mofo.

why does god have a tail bone and appendix?

>>128806463

You can only be a transhumanist if you are rich, all the poor people leave the thread.

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>>128806463
The law of savage birth Dictatorship by nature should disapear to the profit of Human Law & one world nation with equal chances no matter where you were born. Racism is the most primitive sentiment, tired and low energy zoologic meme.

>>128843403
>>128843574
>brings up National Socialist ideology out of nowhere
>surprised when someone that doesn't suck jewish cock tries to call him on his bullshit

I used to think transhumanism sounded extremely good, but as I've gotten older I've realized that it will be pretty evil in practice.

If you can't trust either big business or the government with something as trivial as the sanctity of your email inbox, you certainly can't trust them if they have access to your mind. If we ever get that far, a high level of transhumanism will not just be the end of freedom - it will be the end of the concept of freedom.

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>>128844005
>Green texts constantly
>Still can't refute a single point

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>>128822784

>>128844120
I guess you were baiting from the start.
Congrats dude, that was a really good bait.

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>>128843717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q
THIS

Who do you guys think will be the first people to have access to this tech? It's the global elite. In this reality, you sad cucks would get your robo waifu's about 5-10 years after the elite have begun the process of technological transcendence. So basically you guys wanting to fuck robots are willing to trade cumming in some plastic for the future of the human race.

>>128806463
I'm getting a degree right now in engineering in the hopes I can cash in on the Sexbots or Artificial Wombs craze. It is going to happen, we just need a break through in energy or batteries

>>128844530
I'm actually not though. I'm making legitimate points on why Nazism is a failed ideology which is destined to fail in every attempt by design, but just seem incapable of challenging my assertions. All you seem to be capable of is sneering and making false ad-hominem assessments of my character. I've explained my points pretty clearly, so you tell me why I'm wrong.

I think the main problem you've not evaluated your own thoughts on it with enough rigorous scrutiny to see all the massive holes with it. This is a common problem when people get indoctrinated into a specific type of ideology, and I don't think you've spent enough time in the presence of people who disagree with and have knowledge to actually debate your points. A view you can't defend is not a view worth having. You should try to challenge yourself more in future.

>>128808466
>You could simply edit the new baby to have zero sex drive or an amazing nympho one
>amazing nympho one
Where can I buy and "Amazing Nympho baby"?

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>>128813047

>2017
>trusting a Hungarian-American

>>128844612
Sounds good to me, the human experiment failed a long time ago.

>>128844941
You are the one saying "this ideology doesn't work because it failed" and posting 3rd Reich as a example.
War was the reason it was destroyed and Hitler only wanted to destroy USSR so the war would end after invading Poland and then Soviet Union.
Except Britain declared war too and many european countries supported them so Hitler had to attack them first so they won't have the advantage.

>>128845937
>Only wanted to destroy USSR
Curses, I would have gotten away with it too if weren't for you meddling Brits.

Just out of curiosity, this is not a grilling, but I'd like to know what neo-nazis also thought of the Imperial Japanese at the same time.

>>128846276
So no argument and more baits?
Fuck off if you don't want a serious conversation.

>>128846392
Nah, I'm perfectly fine to continue. You seem a little uptight though.

To be honest, I still don't see how trying invade the USSR was justified. Looking at the tiers of how the Nazis viewed slavs, as bad as the USSR was, damn straight they had every right to defend themselves, and communism probably was preferable in that regard. You're basically some extreme mental gymnastics right now to justify that regime.

>>128846657
>how the Nazis viewed slavs
>communism probably was preferable in that regard
Yep, you've received too much (You)s from me already.
Advanced baiting.

>>128813379
Pretty sure the solution to that is to de-gender waste facilities and genocide the low iq pervs who can't handle a world with non-sexualized nudity and waste disposal.

Multiple birds, one rocket propelled stone.

>>128846795
It's not even bait. I'm just legitimately shocked at how weak your arguments are for justifying this. If you'r this committed to this mindset, it's just something I thought you would have thought more about. I mean we...CAN still go full holohoax if you really want.

>>128847100
If someone was getting brainwashed for his entire life then truth will be a weak argument for him.

>>128847221
I dunno, I think it's more likely to take a weak mind to be convinced by such a weak argument.

The Jews have been preparing the so-called New World Order since the beginning of History. The ‘global consumer culture’ is the means for that. It is already here. With the end of Bolshevist Russia, international capitalism is destroying the frontiers and nationalities. Soon after there will come the end of capitalism, of paper, plastic, and electronic money. The technotronic, electronic, and cybertronic ‘globalism’ will serve very well to impose the Theocratic (Jehovah-Jaweh) world dictatorship, together with virtual reality and computer ecology. With virtual reality the Jews think that they have discovered a magic device in order to give the last and mortal bow to actual reality, or to Mother Nature, in a way that even nature cannot react against this and destroy itself along with the rest.

>>128847288
I also love how you said Hitler hated slavs (even though he liked many slavic people) and how communism is preferable to National Socialism (everyone knows being a slave is much better than having free will)

>>128806463
You're nothing new. Transhumanism is a tenant of Nazism. Hitler wrote about it.

>>128847574
Woah, someone that doesn't say how "evil nazees" try to stop transhumanism?
Would you look at that!

>>128840115
Something that will be banned.

>>128847483
I'm not sure what Hitler might have /personally/ thought of the slavs, but in terms of broader Nazi doctrine, go look up the ranked lists that were made for various races from ubermensch to untermensch. Slavs were pretty fucking low on that list, and they definitely not have much to gain from Nazism.

Thing is, while the USSR might have gone that way, that's how people initially saw it, at least not in its early pre-Stalin. The traditional Marxist doctrine was about workers liberation from bourgeoisie land owners and parasites. Sure, it didn't work out that way in the USSR, but the underlying ideology at least provided the promise of universal suffrage for all workers.

The problem with Nazisim is it was ALWAYS going to make enemies of large groups of those considered untermensch simply because it didn't provide any form of universal suffrage beyond racial identity politics. At best it wanted these people gone, at worst, it wanted them fucking dead. Unlike USSR which failed due to corruption, greed, and bureaucracy, the failures of Nazism were inherent to the very core of the ideology itself.

>>128848033
And again, you just say thing you've learned in school.
"Nazis bad, Commies good"
Keep telling yourself that.
Thank god I live in a country where I won't be beat to death for just looking at blacks or muslims.

>>128806463
>Wanting to be controlled by some corporation
This thread is full of good goys

TRANSHUMANISM IS LIKE RELIGION EXCEPT THAT ITS DEITY IS REAL

AND WHEN TRANSHUMANISM SUCCEEDS, HUMANITY WILL BE DEAD

>>128848822
*le tip* Hi there fellow /r/atheism viewer! XD

>>128848299
>Commies good
Even though I just wrote a huge paragraph admitting to the failures of the USSR. See you're just projecting again. I'm not defending communism, I'm simply pointing out that for races would be considered untermensch in the eyes of Nazism, then yeah, communism probably was an attractive alternative.

Listen, I'll even concede that, as my original point made clear, a form voluntary eugenics through transhuman innovation would probably be a net benefit to society, but the involuntary shit of Nazism can proudly go into the dustbin of history. If we can empirically prove to me that there are genuine intelligence differences between races, then yeah, it would be great if we could just give people injections to bring everyone onto similar levels of intelligence.

Incidentally, that's a shame. The poles used to all be so eager to come over to the UK basically begging us for work at slave-labour wages. Glad everything working out for you though. I'll just have to brave out the niggers and muslims :)

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>>128806463
>TRANSHUMANISM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU, BEGONE FOWL BEAST

>>128848822
What if their deity is...SATAN?

>>128806463
Transhumanism is made up by Jews

a new little cult for atheists to believe in, replacing an afterlife in heaven with their new immortal life on Earth/Space

just look up the main people who push that shit like Kurzwell, all kikes.

>>128807994
>unstoppable
>implying its startable

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>>128806463
Anyone here planning on signing up for cryonics?

I want to stop cryocrastinating, but I am still trying to decide between Alcor and the Cryonics Institute.

>>128849304
Except that it's claims are backed by evidence, and it would create a better society than could possibly exist without it. I don't care that a lot of transhumanists are Jews. It's the next step beyond eugenics. Hitler might be a transhumanist if he were alive today.

>>128849052
Alright then, don't get so upset because I called you out on defending your king Stalin.
And you still think Britain is superior don't you?
Britain is now jewish fuck toy that gets used as new home of musllims, right after germany and sweden.
You get what you deserve, according to your posts.
Your glorious land will be polluted by shitskins.
Why?
Because of good goys like you and your accepting behaviour.

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>>128849717
Show me where I defended Stalin. Stalin was a butcher and mass murderer :)

Also, you sound pretty jealous. It's kind of pathetic that you shit on the EU while at the same time staying in the union begging them for handouts. The Law and Justice party literally only got in because they were the only party also offering state social security nets too, and given that you had to come the UK begging for work, I can see why Poles were willing to give them a shot.

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>>128849594
>Except that it's claims are backed by evidence

>>128849856
I want a Japanese waifu

>>128850049
What, you think things like the Singularity will never happen, despite computational power rapidly increasing? You think genetic enhancements will never exist, despite large amounts of progress in stem cell and genetic engineering technologies? What aspects of transhumanism do you think will never happen?

>>128850022
And again with your "BRITAIN IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD"
You are nothing more than a jewish tool, they've used you before and now they see it's useless so they replace you with someone else.
Maybe it's for the best, muslims atleast have balls, not like your people and your "t-that wouldn't be nice..."
You are honestly pathetic how you are slowly dying and you are accepting it instead of fighting it.

>>128806463
I'm fine with my finite, weak, faulty body; this enspires me to try and do better with my limited resources, and to look for a meaning far and above myself, hence why I still believe in God and in doing good to those who, in the same shared misery of this vale of tears, have it worse than me.
I believe there's some potential for good in bettering ourselves through augmentations, but the potential would be simply squandered for meaningless or dangerous things, just like the internet and similar tools.

>>128807994
can I become a cute asian girl?

>>128810440
I prefer Mediterranean chicks: they age relatively well, they are good mothers and are faithful.

>>128810350
that's as enticing as it is scary.

>>128850265

petaflop desktops 1000$ by 2030, even with no slowdown. by the time we're in middle age with no slowdown or some slowdown shit will be blade runner.

>>128850265
we don't even understand the most basic shit about consciousness much less are anywhere near being able to merge our consciousness with technology outside of the body

sure it might happen, but it's not going to happen in your life time.

>>128850304
To be honest, I actually do think Britain is pretty shit actually; especially given the likely outcome of tomorrow's election. It's still better than fucking Poland though. You're right you know, I've always wondered why hardline western right-wingers aren't more eager to side with violent Islamists. You might actually have a lot more common than anyone is prepared to admit.

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>>128806463
Read Accelerando anon.

>>128806463
Why don't you just admit to yourself that you want the world to end and everyone to die instead of deluding people with transhumanist garbage?

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I miss my asian gf

>>128811675
WH 40k: the E-Tednal Cruzade

>>128850603
And once again, proud brit still believes that jewish lords like him the best.
I felt bad for you, I really did, but after seeing how you aren't even capable of fighting I hope more muslims will come to your country.
You have never succeed without help from jews.
You are nothing.
You never were something.
Even Americans doesn't want to embrace their British past because they know how pathetic you are.

>>128850478
>it's not going to happen in your life time
Unless life extension becomes sufficiently advanced to escape the longevity escape velocity, or if cryonics works and I am revived.

>>128850963
Did you enjoy spreading your buttcheeks to Germany during WWII, did it feel good? At least weren't surrender monkeys like you and the French.

>>128813687
Basic income won't eliminate competition. Getting 20 thousand USD or whatever to live is not going to make girls think you're any less of a fat, stupid, loser.

>>128850112

You realize that those bitches are plastic, right? Japanese girls don't look like that.

>>128851120
And do you enjoy being a little bitch you currently are?
You are saying "HURR DURR NAZIS BAD" while taking multiple muslims dicks at once.
We will exist and stand proud while your grandkids will be either dead or muslim.

>>128851313
Wew lad, you're sounding pretty mad. Incidentally, wouldn't transhumanism also render most religion obsolete too? I don't think I have to worry too much about my grandkids converting to Islam then.

>>128851637
Do you honestly think they will let you have it before they will get rid of you?
You are honestly very optimistic about your future.

>>128849856
I don't listen to oh my girl but Arin is super cute

Post more asian girls plz

>>128851806
Probably. I mean, I'm still here. We've got a pretty big military, backing from NATO, the works. What's the likes of fucking ISIS got, a bunch of fucking backwater desert rapists with their ooh so scary black clothes and black fag flag? Honestly, I think things like the threat of nuclear war are more immediate threats tbqh.

>>128852210
East asian

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>>128852265
I think that girl I posted is east asian but here's some japs

>>128852230
Do you really think your military will protect you?
Do you really think those "harmless" muslims will not be the end of your nation?
You really are clueless.

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>>128840384
National Transhumanism supports free-markets, but it will have state-regulation on the limits of genetic modification. This is to ensure social cohesion.

>>128849304
There's a lot of different branches of transhumanism, some of us just want everyone to be at peak physical and cognitive condition, but remain human.

>>128852500
Yeah...I think that's the point of having a military; that's their job. What, do you literally a couple of random attacks by backwards sandniggers is literally all it takes to bring downthe entire nation? Wow, if that's all it takes, we're a pretty fucking lame nation. As mentioned, we literally took on Hitler's army and fucking won, but a couple of machete wielding sandniggers is what's going to destroy us...sure thing, buddy :)

>>128851637
>wouldn't transhumanism also render most religion obsolete too

New religions will be created. But I think Earth should be left for the natural humans. After all, most religious texts reference Earth as their domain. Why not let them have it and take the rest of the universe for ourselves?

>>128810464
transhumanism will correct the problems with pedophilia, making it harmless. Kids will be able to consent (higher iq, accelerated brain development) and the physical/emotional damage will be prevented through a few gene patches that prevent say, internal bleeding.

Ethical toddler fucking WILL be possible.

>>128852845
>As mentioned, we literally made all world fight against Hitler's army and took the credit for it
Fixed that for you
And if you think they are completely harmless then take more of them in.
They totally won't destroy your glorious land.
And army don't have their own will, they have to get approval from Higher Power and that won't happen.
You really are stupid.

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>>128853090

>>128839876
>25 posts by this ID

my toilets clogged, get on it NOW polack!

>>128854705
Fuck off, I'm not working on wednesdays.

>>128853090
>Ethical toddler fucking WILL be possible

Did you just solve the pedo question?

>>128853090
Uhhhhh guys?

>>128853192
Hey, you're the ones who refused to take in your share of refugees while still scrounging off the EU teat. Why don't you leave the EU too then, or do you realise your country will collapse without those sweet subsidies?

>>128854882
You work everyday, polish monkey :)

>>128855222
no bs i predicted otherkin 15 years ago.

the future isn't just gonna be xeno tentacle porn and shrunken heads, it's way more fucked up than that. brain mutations like pedophilia leaving a permanent mark on the path of the species. memes alter bodies and their survival is gonna be decided by natural selection.

play the cyriak doom .wads and you'll know the future, hell hell hell is coming

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can we just cure cancer already?

>>128806463
its not a ideology. its a inevitability given enough time. there will be people who refuse to upgrade their blood lines and people who cant afford to

but it will happen because the benefit is to great. as a result regardless of political affiliations different forms would be accepted by the wealthy elite. they are the only ones who matter because they control the governments with money.

so it will be legally acceptable and supported and thus it happens . eprsoanlly i like the idea of replacing slivers of the brain with small analog chipsets with mostly nonconductive casing with conductive terminals that nerves naturally grow to connect to. this was tested in the late 90s with rabbits in a attempt to find a solution to brain damage and oldtimerz. some success but no updates for a decade and a half

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>thread still alive

> Will I be able to fuck for real my 2D waifu
This thread.

>>128806463

i hope there is more investment into transhumanist science in my lifetime. thing like life extension etc. i took my (((23andme))) data and ran it through a programme called promethease that tells you what variants of a gene you have are associated with what medical condition and i have a lot of gene variants making it more likely i will get alzheimers. so i hope i either become brave enough to kill myself or they find a cure before i become a human vegetable.

>>128838080
Did she ded?
Was that actually a crock?

>>128843717

EXACTLY, ONLY TODAYS FINANCIAL, SPIRITUAL, CYBER, INTELLECTUAL AND POLITICAL ELITE WILL TRANSCEND

THE REST OF US WILL BE LEFT OUT ON THE GUTTER

>>128860245

it was a seal. they fished her out straight after she fell in.

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>>128858666
Yeah, nice trips btw. Just read the last half of it. Pretty good thread for /pol/.

>>128860591
>transcend
doesn't exist.

If you increase your IQ by 100000 you aren't alive anymore in any discernible way.

It's like imagining taking an ant and upping it to human IQ. Do you think any of it's ant's features will be left?

If you took any person you knew and gave them 200 IQ they become a different person.

The difference between me and you is less than the difference between me and me with +150 IQ and immortality.

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>>128860967
Please rate my wife.

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>>128806463
what

>>128861146
just imagine if you are taken into a machine

all of your neurons are removed except 1

you are then given back a normal brain with some basic instincts and abilities like talking/walking etc

Are you still alive?

The more you change your brain, aka "transcend" to superintelligence, the less of you is left. The concept of life/death get very fucked up when you talk about altering the brain a huge amount, such as with boosting intelligence.

Just having immortality alone will stupendously effect your outlook on everything. The concept of life being a continual working of your body becomes very weak when faced with transhumanism possibilities.

It's similar to the monkey logic people have that extremely brain damaged people are still "alive"

Transhumanists never take in account several problems of a rising ideology in an ideology saturated environment, will make a thread about it

>interference
>corruption
>hijacking
>misdirection
>centralized planning

>>128862026
>centralized planning
If you can produce efficient AIs and robots you don't need human slaves so this will never happen.

>>128862026
It's more like "Industrialization" than "Conservatism". It just so happens the process alters intelligence which drives all ideology.

>>128861453
Why was she trying to hide eating that thing?

>>128811292
OMG

We will merge with machines and become something completely new within decades.
As Terence McKenna said, we are the larva becoming the butterfly, we are currently in the cocoon state.

It is going to be glorious. Finally the times of humans are over. Finally the cosmis intelligence can become something billion times greater.
The human experience was cool and all, but it's time to move on.

>>128864297
Fucking Alex Jones and all them make it seem like this is something wrong or evil. However I believe we are on the verge of something great.

Imagine what we can do if we combine nano-tech with DNA editing? We could make the perfect humans.

>>128806874
>transhumanism is not about immortality or mind uploading.
To a large part it is, you faggot.

t. Transhumanist since the 1990s.

>>128865068
>t. Transhumanist since the 1990s.

hows that working out for you? got any upgrades?

>>128865068
gtfo luddie
transhumanism is about raping your kids literally and metaphorically

don't fucking downplay its importants

>>128865225

No tech of today is worthy of even considering, try again in 30-50 years

I wonder if the poor parts of the world will lose their collective shit, when rich white people attain virtual immortality and literally leave them in the dust.

Like income disparity is one thing, even a couple decades of length of life is apparently tolerable, but imagine for a moment the mind-numbing rage a doomed slum dwelling rat might have if he came to understand that somewhere in the world, people were achieving what is essentially godhood, and that he will never have it, simply because of the circumstances of his birth.

It would affect things on a larger scale as well. Once it becomes apparent that real immortality is only for the ultra-wealthy, shit would go down on a scale that I don't think we have ever seen before.

>>128865779

immortality will become a "human right" and we'd have to share our technology or it would be racist.

>>128865225
I'm fit and healthy and don't need them urgently at this time.
Community-wise Transhumanism as a movement is terrible. Much talk, little action. The original libertarian foundation is neglected by now as libtard "technoprogressives" claimed territories and made it into a SJW-infested meme. Esp. since social media became a thing, many people talk about it but don't do anything. They care more about wealth redistribution and being consumers of awesome tech.
In the early 2000s I went into STEM, now I work in those fields.

>>128865779
Technology gets cheaper and spreads to more people.

I'll just torrent the best upgrades without all the other shit in to my third party implant.
I just want the higher IQ without the reeducation.

>>128865779
>simply because of the circumstances of his birth
And this is where he is wrong. There is no place for fate when you talk about the birth gifts. We are the result of generations and generations of hard working men, he is the result of generations and generations of goatfuckers. So we deserve to transcend our nature and become literal gods, and he deserve to remain in is ape condition.

>>128866559

So you decided to be born into a society that is reaping the rewards of hard work?

When did you decide that, exactly?

>>128806463
Mental illness and abomination

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>>128864037
yeah

>>128866836
You don't decide anything. Humans are not poping out of nowhere. You blood is the blood of your father running onside your veins. You are a part of them, you are them. We deserve everything we have.

>>128865779
Most people outside of the loop of the hyper-evolved technological oligarchy will be given dirt cheap access to VR sims which will cause their birth rates to plummet down to near 0 worldwide.

>>128866424
This is true it seems like most self-labelled "transhumanists" are obsessed with the idea of basic income, in other words they're basically just wiggers excited for gibs. Hate that shit.

>>128806463
I wish to emigrate to Equestria.

>>128868179
I don't see how transhumanism can be a sjw movement. It is a libertarian "fuck the poor" system by nature.

>transhumanism is for the weak
>learn to manipulate your ki and DNA from within
>transform into a Super Human like Samson
>profit

>>128810481
That's ancap

>>128868639
It is not SJW movement but a lot of people who are pro SJW are pro-transhumanism.

Like it or not, Transhumanism involves tossing into the winds a lot of traditions, things we consider natural and in some scenarios very idea of humanity.

SJW are more keen to make that leap of faith, and if they make it before you the great machines will be ruled by their ideas and ways of thinking.

>>128868179
>>128868639
UBI is great. It'll feed the useless and keep them nice. We just need to make sure to couple it with demographic control.
Can you imagine to live and work in a world where only those who really want to work and contribute are present and the "muh wage slavery" whiners are UBI-funded NEETs outside your view?

>>128867419
Is she crying?

>>128868900
Checked.
What went wrong? When I was interessed in transhumanism 10-15 years ago everybody was happy to live the lesser people behind, this was very eugenic and not really open on the world and tolerant. What happened?

>>128869098
It does sounds great but yeah only if we sterilize everyone who receives UBI without also doing additional work. Nobody will go for that unfortunately so we should probably just kill them. It could easily become a nightmare where the people who DO want to work are taxed at 95% to pay for Mr Non-working Muhammad's 14 children.

>>128869098
Not only that imagine how much it owuld help those who are working if they could easily take a break if they need it and the AI which sees all can provide instant coverage of worker with qualification, or use it as a trainer position.

There is Wealth of people out there who would like to be useful but they do not know how. Waiting to meet people who would be good for them but they will never meet them due massive population.

All of that would be fixed and more.

>>128868179

pls gib basic income now.

>>128869534
People understood how networking works. And what it would really mean.

>>128868739

i bet you try to move things with your mind until a vein pops up in your neck.

>>128869098
>UBI is great.
>What can possibly go wrong feeding Abdoul for doing nothing?
Are you 12 or something? UBI is a retarded idea as is communism. Also taxing the hard working to feed the lazzy is really unfair.

>>128865779

there'll probably be a explosion of garage biohacking labs

>>128806463

You also should consider mind uploading to computer neural networks. I wouldn't mind living on the internet and dispose of my expensive and lackluster life.

>>128869808
Well that sucks. Eugenism was a better way to go.

>>128870480
There will be no need of Eugenics when DNA is rendered obsolete.

>>128814662

...I Recognize that room

>>128854882
Fucking polacks