WHY DID YOU FUCKING DO IT AMERICA WHY YOU FUCKING RUINED EVERYTHING

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>>128766903
Implying

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>>128766903
Hindsight is 20/20, you can't be mad at them for what they did, they didn't know. Instead of trashing on the dead, how about we world save the world they built for us before it was subverted by the jew and avenge them.

Also, Pacific War Marines and Soldiers literally did nothing wrong

>>128766903
I'd burn that demonic pagan hellhole again in a heartbeat.

>>128766903

This is your daily reminder that FDR instituted American National Socialism and nobody realized it. He even sent 'people' to camps and genocided nearly a million nips as cannon fodder. Hitler was just competition to the American Empire. We were supposed to 'help' Europe rebuild and in turn own it.

Boomers ruined this starting in 1965. America stopped being an ethnostate and Europe took the wrong kind of socialism. Thanks Dad!

>>128766903
My bad

>>128768474
>We were supposed to 'help' Europe rebuild and in turn own it.
But that is exactly what you did, except it was privatized and every bit of power in the continent was outsourced to jews. You killed the last hope for white civilization, and delivered half of Europe to Socialism.
And now you are paying the price, enjoy sending your children to college so they can be beaten over the head for oppressing all those poor nigs, enjoy watching your country become Brazil 2.0.

You sacrificed Europe, and your own demographic for a bit of money and power. You threw your "greatest generation" into the meatgrinder, and now you get your reward.
American's win the Goys of the Year, every year.

>>128766903
The only real mistake was not wrecking the soviet union when we had a chance

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>>128767361

You did the wrong thing for the right reasons. Help Europe sort our shit out and we'll forgive you, senpai!

(((They))) tricked us by using our empathy to anger us into attacking Germany. Patton realized we fought on the wrong side and then they killed him.

>>128770401

Really? That's the first I've heard of it.. Got anything related that I can read? Some type of source?

>>128766903
They are good goys.

>>128771035

Even Wikipedia implies it if you can put 2 and 2 together.

>starts lamenting what is happening to post-war Germany
>starts asking the Jewish Question
>has an ''''''accident'''''' and dies in the hospital

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>>128771587

Makes me glad I awoke to the NatSoc truth when I did.. I was always very conservative, but didn't embrace NatSoc until a year back.

We have to fix this, Anon! MAGA then MEGA!

>>128766903
>Leaving Krauts in charge of Europe

LMAO, you're a stupid one aren't you paddy?

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>>128766903
The AXIS violated the NAP

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>>128772213
>Leaf

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>>128772213
>Leaf

>>128769339
Lets not pretend Europe didn't fuck everything up well before WW2. The greatest flourishing of human civilization existed in Europe in the 20 years prior to WW1. There was peace, major cultural and scientific advances on a nearly daily basis, levels of global trade and interconnectiveness that only today are we starting to reach again, the savage brown lands were tamed, and rising prosperity for all classes of people like never before.

All this was early 20th century Europe and you threw it all away. Yes Hitler by the time of the second world war was a last desperate attempt to save some measure of past glory but he himself was merely a final remnant of a truly great and now dead civilization.

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>>128772680
>says the cucks who would be arrested if their posts were made known to the authorities

I bet you smile and nod when you're with your liberal friends. Basement crusaders.

>>128768474
Truth. Sad.

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>>128766903
Germany declared war on us, if they didn't want to get their shit kicked in they could've just left us alone.

Every time Germany tries to get control of Europe, it goes down the shitter.

We did you a favour, paddy.

>>128766903
For short term financial gain, of course.

>>128772894
>Yes Hitler by the time of the second world war was a last desperate attempt to save some measure of past glory but he himself was merely a final remnant of a truly great and now dead civilization.
It's dead because you killed it, you chose the jews over Europe. Whether you knew it at the time or not.

>>128773183

But Germany literally did nothing to provoke you. You got involved with Europe's shit not because of Japan, but because you view yourselves as the fucking world police.

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>>128773014

I won't dox myself, but I'm already well known by the authorities :)

Not entirely unexpected to see the leaf contribute with absolutely nothing.

>>128773183
So you dont know shit about ww2 or the civil war. Gonna have to search that pic now to see what other faggotry you have graced /pol/ with today.

NATIONALIZE THE FEDERAL RESERVE

DO NOT RE ELECT ANYONE IN AMERICAN POLITICS

>get declaired a WMD

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Hitler was a schizophrenic druggie who slaughtered millions of whites.

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>>128773556
>But Germany literally did nothing to provoke you
Except, you know, DECLARE WAR ON US

They wanted good goy points

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>>128773183

www.thegreateststorynevertold.tv

Watch that. Until you do, all your points are invalid.

>>128771035
Apparently he said that they attacked the wrong enemy and started questioning (((things))). By mere coincidence, he died in a car crash with an (((american army truck))) soon after.

>>128773823
wat lol

>>128773540
Hitler lost as soon as he invaded Poland. He challenged the Anglo and paid the price

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>>128766903
That's not even the bad part, pasta.
We allied with pic related.
Only fucking Patton had the balls to call us out for our bullshit, and demand we invade the Russians afterward.

For this, the leftist press hated him.

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>>128773540
Again Europe killed themselves long before the Jewish vultures came feed on the corpse. Weak and feeble the lot of you.

>>128766903
Hitler was killing Middle clas Jews while letting the elite Jews wine and dine with him and his officials.
Hitler was and is just another Jewish puppet.

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>>128774134
>invaded

you mean rescued his people from genocide?

>>128766903
Because, and this might blow your fucking mind, Hitler was actually so stupid as to declare war on both the United States and Soviet Union at the same time.

Let that sink in for a second.

Think of all the human beings in the entire history of mankind that have ever been born or will ever be born and just imagine how many of those untold billions of people who when asked the question "do you think it would be a good idea to declare war on both the United States and Soviet Union at the same time" would answer in the affirmative. How many do you think it would be? No more than half a dozen people, maybe? Well Germany somehow had a man so stupid leading them that he was in that select group.

I mean really what the fuck would you have expected to happen? Germany LITERALLY did it all to themselves.

>>128774347
I wonder if Polish NEETsocs believe this meme too

>>128773804
Dude you're a huge faggot. kys

>>128766903
Fuck off papist. Go suck your priest's dick again.

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>>128774410

Rightful German clay taken from them after WW1.

That's a fact.

>>128774348
lol

so Hitler forced Jews into colluding to destroy Germany and her people?

Hitler forced Poland to murder tens of thousands of ethnic Germans?

Hitler forced Anglos to ally with a communist dictator to murder its allys?

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>>128773183
>Forgetting the USS Reuben James "incident"
>Forgetting that the US constantly aided British ships, despite being neutral
>Forgetting that Roosevelt wanted to declare war on Germany by the end of December, but the Krauts foresaw this, so they've made the first move
Autistic little shit with burger education, fuck off.

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>>128774128
>Japan declares war on USA
>German also declares war on USA
>USA defeats Japan and Germany
This isn't hard to understand, kiddo

>>128767084
Looks way too white

>>128773823

>Except, you know, DECLARE WAR ON US

Not until after you declared war on them and Italy

Not to forget, you also provoked them with the Land Lease Act.

>>128774494
Poles were a great kingdom when Germanic peasant were still squatting in huts on the Rhine. Everything east of the Elbe is rightful Slav territory.

>>128774348
>Hitler declared war both to the United States and the Soviet Union
You're retarded.

>>128774635
Oh, so America providing billions in arms to England wasn't them low key declaring war on Germany long before?

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>>128774634
>but the Krauts foresaw this, so they've made the first move
What first move? What advantage is there in initially declaring war on a nation that you have no way of harming in any way? All you did is give the Americans extra resolve by making it a defensive war.

>>128774410
Of all Hitlers pre war claims his claim on Danzig was the most justified and the least drastic. The only meme was that the UK had any intention of defending Poland. Any Pole should blame their shitty corrupt prewar government for not joining Hitler in his crusade against communism.

>>128774459
Jerry cuck bastard

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>>128774669
>Not until after you declared war on them and Italy
Germany declared war first

>>128774752
No.

>>128774846
The Polish government would've collapsed if they had bent to Hitler's demands, just like the Czech government did.

>>128774702
Yes. That's what happened. Sorry reality is such a disappointment for you.

>>128774752
Don't forget the active protection of UK convoys in the Atlantic by the us navy or the seizure of UK bases and Iceland to protect them from German attacks so they could still be used as bases to supply the bongs. By any objective opinion the US ended its neutrality the day France fell.

>>128774702
Germany was forced to declare war on the U.S. after they declared war on Japan cause, Y'know, that's what allies did back then.
However, war was going to be inevitable cause the Germans were getting tired of the U.S. interfering with the war by sending supplies, it's just Pearl Harbor accelerated everything.

>>128774846
Real life isn't like Crusader Kings. Danzig was sovereign territory. Hitler had no "claim" to it.

>>128766903

>not burning germany to the ground
>not putting the eternal teuton in their place

If Germans aren't being the laughing stock of Europe, their cultural inferiority complex starts to take over and their megalomania gets the better of them. Look at the Roman empire, the Holy Roman empire, Prussian unification and both World wars.

And yet, somehow, when people get tired of their shit, they manage to lose despite being "supermen",

>>128774592
Irrelevant to my fucking point.

Don't want to go to war with America? Then don't declare war on America ya fucking tard.

>>128767624

Every good goy would

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>>128775058
You have a pretty childlike view of history, friend.

Jews attacked Germany. Poles attacked Germany. England attacked Germany. America attacked Germany.

Those filthy Germans, wanting to reclaim their country and people. Let's genocide our fellow whites so we can be conquered and genocided ourselves. Grats bro, you truly conquered evil good goy.

>>128775355
Every nationalist should hate Germany

>>128773183
Literally this. America was poor as shit, we would have stayed neutral. We only declared war on Japan after they attacked us and Germany after they declared war on us.

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>>128766903
>why

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>>128766903
Blame the Soviets. On top of that their psyops are still poisoning minds across the world. Soviet propaganda has lasted longer than the USSR, it's a nightmare.

>>128775073
They probably shouldn't have put themselves in that position then.

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>>128775058
Stop making excuses, infidel. You're not even a white country.

>>128767084

Shame

The world gets shittier, gayer and faggotter by the second, there is no stopping this ride anymore

>>128772356

Even considering this line of argument was legit you are wrong

>>128767624
0.0001 shekels have been added to your account

>>128775423
Fuck, you NEETsocs never change. I can guarantee you're younger than 25

>>128774635

>US provokes Germany with the LLA and multiple other incidents
>US refuses to supply the Japanese with oil because all of a sudden, they grow a heart for Chinamen
>Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor in retaliation
>US chimps out, declares war on Germany and Italy in the process, because why not?
>Destroy a nation hellbent on changing the world for the greater good, and demonize them in history books (despite them having similar racial beliefs, they were even influenced by the US' eugenics program)
>Strongly support the foundation of Israel
>Become Jew slaves


Is that so hard to understand?

>>128775255
Germany has no claim on a city that was founded by Germans, was German for hundreds of years and had a 95 percent German population in 1939? Yeah go fuck yourself.

>>128775517
And Germany shouldn't have invaded. They paid the price in the end

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>>128775606
Strong counter argument.

It's difficult to accept that we were the bad guys in WW2. It's not easy for any of us.

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>>128775423
>Jews attacked Germany. Poles attacked Germany. England attacked Germany. America attacked Germany.
You guys have the biggest persecution complex of anyone I've ever seen.

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>>128775771
>invading your own land

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>>128766903
But according to you Euros the Americans made hardly any difference in WW2 and it was really the manly Soviet heroes that killed the Reich
So which is it?

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>>128773804

>

t. Humphrey Cuckington

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>>128775693
>US refuses to supply the Japanese with oil because all of a sudden, they grow a heart for Chinamen
Does Japan have a right to OUR oil?

>Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor in retaliation
Yeah, an unprovoked and unjustified attack

>US chimps out, declares war on Germany and Italy in the process, because why not?
The fuck? USA declared war on Japan, then Germany declared war on the USA because "muh honor and allies" and shit

>Destroy a nation hellbent on changing the world for the greater good
Oh yeah, Poland was definitely feeling the "greater good" you brought to them

>>128775771
Why not? Their rightful demands were refused. Poland should have known they couldn't fight the Germany. Also note the Soviets invaded Poland too with even less provocation but nobody seems to care about that.

>>128775762
Poles lived there first. You realize how subjective this argument is, right? That's why international diplomacy has always tried to be as objective as possible. Gdansk is Polish, shall be and shall remain. National sovereignty trumps any claim of authority just based on the demographics of a region.

>>128771035
Patton actually wanted to attack the Soviets in 1945 , and he knew about ((((them)))) i have some good pics with some of his quotes but unfortunately it's on my computer and im on the mobile phone

>>128774348
Germany did have the best equipment backing it up tho, that type of grandiose thinking issomewhat understandable. An you wouldnt be in space had it not be for them, everything that makes usa great is because of nazi germany think about that you lazy lousy 14% half indian ass nigga

>>128766903
>dick measuring contest over who did the most to defeat Nazi Germany
America did nothing, the Russians did all of the heavy lifting
>figuring out who to blame over the Nazis' destruction
Fuck you America; everything is all your fault

t. every yuropeasnt ever

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>>128774843
>What advantage is there in initially declaring war on a nation that you have no way of harming in any way
Sinking newbie American ships before they come up with a strategy, I wonder what were the Germans thinking
>Forgetting the Amerika Bomber projects
Few bombs from the Germans and you would've started to panic like rats on the sinking ship, just like you did in Vietnam or during 911.
The US is reckless, not strong, because no one smashed the "we're untouchables, because we're surrounded by water" fantasy. Yet.

>>128775820
Again, strong counter argument.

What if I told you that Judea declared war on Germany first? What if I told you that Poles drew first blood in WW2? What if I told you that Hitler explicitly did not want to attack England, even expressing admiration for them? What if I told you that America was pressured into attacking Germany by the Jewish Federal Reserve because Germany dared to remove the Jew dollar and take control of their own economy?

>>128776137
>The fuck?
The was never any doubt the US would join the war against Germany after pearl harbor. Let me ask you why did the US devote most of its resources and energy fighting Germany if the japs were the ones that attacked us? Why not ignore the European war and focus on the nips?

>>128766903
I unironically agree that America shouldn't have intervened in the first world war, and that the Jews were directly responsible.

However the second one wasn't our fault. Japan literally attacked us, and then Hitler declared war on us. He should have denounced the Japanese for their cowardly sneak attack on a neutral country. Before that, there was significant sympathy for Hitler in the U.S., due to a perception that they got screwed at Versailles, and the British and French were abusing them.

Hitler did do something wrong and that was it.

People say he had to do it, because he signed an alliance with Japan, but the Germans similarly criticized the English for intervening in WWI for the sake of a defensive treaty the Brits had with innocent Belgium.

Germany made mistakes, but I agree it would have been better if they had won ww1 or ww2.

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>>128776150
>Their rightful demands were refused
No, they weren't "rightful" demands, German rightfully lost that land after they chimped out in WW1

>Poland should have known they couldn't fight the Germany
That's literally just an appeal to force, and seeing as to how Germany got defeated in the end, it looks like they should've heeded that better as well.

>>128776174
>Germany did have the best equipment backing it up tho,
>muh only relevant equipment in war is a tank delusion
Literally no. Both the UK and US were able to field superiors fighters and far superior bombers. Hell the Americans standard issue rifle greatly outclassed its German counterpoint.

>>128776137
>Yeah, an unprovoked and unjustified attack
We knew it was coming and did nothing, it was a false flag.

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>>128772213

This. G*rmans only destroy you can never trust them.

>>128776594
>Japan literally attacked us, and then Hitler declared war on us.

America was supplying the allies with arms long before Pearl Harbor. What did you expect Germany to do? America were the aggressors first. Even still, Germany didn't declare war until Pearl Harbor. Which they had no idea was going to happen, and were extremely not happy about.

>>128773823

Also, Pearl Harbor was almost as staged as 9/11. You are not cool and nobody loves you anymore, deal with it.

>>128776150
>rightful demands
Don't exist. Germany agreed to Versailles, the territory of the Corridor is Polish, the city is independent under a customs union with Poland

>>128775425

BASED Israeli nationalist like you should, Yes.

>>128774592
>Hitler forced Poland to murder tens of thousands of ethnic Germans?

Stop repeating this lie.

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>>128776490
>Forgetting the Amerika Bomber projects
"Oh, hey Hans, do you think we should declare war on the USA before or after we complete the superweapons program to bomb them"
"Definitely before Fritz, after all, we wouldn't want to use common sense, now would we?"

>>128776563
>The was never any doubt the US would join the war against Germany after pearl harbor.
So then why not just wait until the USA declares war on Germany? At least it would have bought you some time, given how busy you were with the Soviet Union.

>Why not ignore the European war and focus on the nips?
Because at that point it was also a race to see whether the commies or the capitalists got to control Europe.

>>128776800
>America was supplying the allies with arms long before Pearl Harbor.
So what? Sweden was supplying arms and resources to both sides the entire war and no one felt the need to declare war on them.

>>128776170
Prussians lived there long before the slavs. While Danzig was a german colony long before the poles moved into the region. International diplomacy had nothing to do with righteousness after ww1. Poland wanted a harbor and they got one, a German one.

>>128776695
>Both the UK and US were able to field superiors fighters and far superior bombers
Only in the last year of the war and the Junkers that Germany was rolling out could have bombed the US and returned on one load of fuel. They also tested a bomb on Rugen and had a better method for sublimation of fissile material than we did.

You may want to read paperclip files if you are so deluded as to thinking that Germany only had good tanks. The transistors in the computer you are using are a German invention from the war. The over the horizon radar systems that prevent your plane from hitting other plane in mid air are also of German origin along with the jet engines that keep the plane in the air.

>>128776881
Voided once Versailles began to be overturned in other areas without repercussions. Poland should have made a new treaty with Germany. At the time Hitler gave them fair terms.

>>128776490
>the Americans are weak. They have no resolve
How did this meme manage not to die with Soviet Union?

>>128777017
>At least it would have bought you some time
They did have time. It was 2 years before the US arrived in major force in Europe such was our unreadyness for war.

>>128777017
>USA before or after we complete the superweapons program to bomb them
I would suggest looking up the bomb test on the Isle of Rugen and the fact that the Operation Epsilon transcripts indicate that the Germans had a high level of understanding of how to make a nuclear bomb coupled with the understanding of better ways to sublimate fissile material. The man who invented the sublimation method was taken by the USSR and he is the only non Russian in the history of the USSR to win a Stalin award in the field of science.

>>128776695
>Hell the Americans standard issue rifle greatly outclassed its German counterpoint.

t. Somebody who got his knowledge about guns and ww2 from call of duty

kill yourself

I assume it's the government/finance assholes who simply refuse to compete fairly and are threatened by any other alpha force. I assume the same thing is driving the hate towards Russia from the establishment. What else could it be? We do business with all these raghead countries that are willing to be slave bitches but Russia is the bad guy?

Also watching the system whine about Russia hacking when the USA has been implicated in numerous acts of foreign election interference is cake.

There are some real shit heads within our government/finance industry.

>>128767084
>that second article

that's fetishization

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>>128777026
Lol. I think America was supplying a bit more than Sweden, friend. And again, they did not declare war until (((Pearl Harbor)))

Seriously fellow burger, I'm trying to be diplomatic here. If you truly believe this stuff, I suggest you research a bit why us awful neo-nazi Hitler lovers share these viewpoints. The world is not as simple and childlike as you think it is. Good and evil isn't so clearly defined, and history revision is a tactic as old as time.

>>128777142
>Only in the last year of the war
Wrong. The Thurderbolt and Lightning were both superior to the ME-109 FW-190, as was the Spitfire and the Corsair.
> and the Junkers that Germany was rolling out could have bombed the US and returned on one load of fuel
Oh cool. That thing that never existed sounds dope as fuck.

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>>128766903
FDR--our Hitler--ran a good political machine, and the Jewish media and he (as well as Eisenhower, and to a lesser extent Truman) conspired with the communists. Sorry.

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>>128777029
>American education
You understand there were no German speakers in any of these territories until well into the 1200's, right? All of modern Poland was Polish since they converted to Christianity in the 900's until the Germans stole them away.

Hitler was a Jewish plant.

Because of him every attempt at nationalism is shut down because "muh six gorillion" even civic nationalism is seen as evil everywhere except in America, and ethno nationalism is not even in the question.

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>>128776836
>Also, Pearl Harbor was almost as staged as 9/11
Oh, what else was staged? The Boston Massacre? All these recent London attacks? The Rhodesian Bush War?

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If US citizens would care even a bit about Europe or Germany they would start a Petition right now demanding to withdraw from Germany and end the occupation. Also get rid of CIA and their influence in Europe.
DO IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

>>128774348

1941-12-07 (((Pearl Harbor))) -> Japan "attacks" the US (i.e. staged fake attack allowed from U.S. forces to have an excues to enter the war, just in case I was not clear.

1941-12-08 US and anglophone retarted friends declare war on Nazi Germany and Japan.

1941-12-11 Nazi Germany ACTUALLY declares war on the US.

I know you burgers are retarded and mostly incapable of reading, but here is the actual chronology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_war_during_World_War_II

Do you need me to draw it for you?

You entered the war, as always, because you had someting to gain. It's not like Hitler was threatening a continent on the other side of the sea.
You had to meddle with Europe so that you could conquer it when the war had tired everyone up. Now we're more full than your filthy military basis than a fucking Roman province. But at least provinces were not spammed the FREEDOM meme while being subdued to the Empire, like we are.

THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOM

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>>128777446
Interesting how they never used any of this to win the war.

If you didn't know by now, we own every resource on the planet. Europe is rightful american clay

>>128766903
I thought the russians did all the heavy lifting?

This is trump country now, faggot.

>>128777585
>that thing that never existed
>Junkers are a figment of the imagination
Huh, the more you know.

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>>128777380
>It was 2 years before the US arrived in major force in Europe such was our unreadyness for war.
And the Soviets had still not been beaten by that time.

>>128777488
>actually arguing a bolt action piece of shit is superior to the M1 Garand
The Mauser wasn't even the best bolt action piece of shit from WW2.

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>>128766903
It was a damn shame they lost, fuck this (((timeline))).

>>128777663

Most of your excuses to get into wars you were not supposed to meddle in were fabricated. You guys always pushed forward your own agenda, and now it's evident to everyone, that's why everyone hate you.

Guys we're all arguing over who was right. The point is we have seen how the world turns out in an allied victory and it's not good for whites. Is it any wonder we ask ourselves if the world would have been better if the axis won?

>>128766903
Hitler did it to himself by being a massive faggot.

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>>128775583
I don't think I've ever seen a pearl harbor denier before

Reminder that the White House + Intelligence Community had extensive knowledge of the Pearl Harbour plot and not allowed for it to happen and for innocent Americans to burn alive but also fostered the environment for the attack to happen just so they had an excuse to declare war on the Axis. Enjoy your Zionist Occupational Government, it's almost like you deserve it for your apathy.

>>128777875
A Junkers bomber that could get to the US and back on one tank of fuel absolutely did not fucking exist you delusional faggot.

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>>128777957
And yet you joined us in those wars. Looks like your in on the conspiracy too, chap.

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>>128777722
>You had to meddle with Europe so that you could conquer it when the war had tired everyone up.
>You

>>128777760
Even more interesting was the fact that because their production had been moved underground that German production was increasing consistently towards the end of the war despite bombings getting worse. At the end of the war when the newly formed CIA was inventorying things along with their German FHO compartments they were startled to learn that had the war continued in the manner it had been and assuming Germany continued the same production growth they would have won.

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>>128776695
Allied combat aviation didn't rely on being superior to Axis, it relied on the US's ability to shit out thousands of B-17s and P-51s. German aircraft designs were better, but they didn't have the resources to produce them in similar capacity. And, well the pilots got less and less training time as the war went on due to the way the German fighter pilot training program worked

>>128778125
I would suggest looking at the last 14 to leave the production line at the end of WWII and then rethink that statement.

>>128777488
kek sounds like you're the one who got his knowledge from CoD or similar. The K98 was an excellent bolt action (often claimed as the best), but it DOES have a lower volume of fire capability than the American and British standard issues of the time. STG43/44 came too late to have significant effect. 2/3rds of your transportation on the Western front was conducted by horses--Americans used almost exclusively vehicles (and later railroads) for their supplies. Germany jad better trained troops--on the Eastern front. On the Western front it wasn't even close between us and you, and your generals (most of the time, but not always, due to the intervention of Hitler) made many more serious mistakes than their American counterparts.

>>128777640
You dont know what prussians were do you? American education indeed.

>>128776170
Actually during the roman empire times Germanic tribes lived in that region. Slavs only moved in later

>>128777889
Yes and?

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>>128778125
Technical details on Ju-390 A-1

>>128778210
>And, well the pilots got less and less training time as the war went on due to the way the German fighter pilot training program worked
I think this was the biggest influence on the air war. The greatest advantage we had in the air had to be our pilots, and that they had a ton of experience whereas the Axis had to throw guys with less and less experience behind the controls. Poor guys never stood a chance

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>>128778356
Going to war with 3 nations when you're not even ready to defeat one of them is a bad idea.

>>128767624

Another line item on the laundry list of reasons why Christians aren't white.

>>128777722
>1941-12-08 US and anglophone retarted friends declare war on Nazi Germany and Japan.
Except that's a lie. The US declared war on Japan alone. War was declared war on Germany on the 11th after Germany declared war on the US.

Why do you feel the need to lie about something so easy to look up?

>>128776836
>>128777663
It wasn't "staged", for fuck's sake, but it was very directly caused by the American government, and FDR's administration went to some effort to prevent the relevant warnings about a Japanese invasion from reaching the command in Hawai'i.

>>128774700

Polaks aren't even real slavs. And teuton tribes have settled east of the elbe river long before slavs arrived. Learn the basics burger.

>>128778256
>last 14
Cool. So something that had absolutely no relevance to the business of actually winning WW2.

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>>128777339
Are you the type of burger that unironically believe you've defeated the Soviet Union?

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>>128778543
Pretty clear you have no interest in actual debate. You've been given a million reasons why, yet you still go back to the same arguments without even attempting to debate

>>128778543
You could say similar things about every war the US has fought since 1945. Hindsight is a bitch.

>>128769435

No, you fucking idiot. Killing white men in a brother war instigated by Jews for Jews was a mistake.

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>>128778446
>only built 2 long range bombers
>a year after they declared war on the USA
This basically proves the point right there.

>>128778790
This

>>128778590
It may have been Germany that declared war, but that doesn't mean FDR wasn't actively looking for war with NS Germany. Any even cursory review of his internal memos or correspondence with Stalin (see: Dear Uncle Joe) reveals an FDR that is deeply sympathetic to communism and yearning deeply for war with Germany.

>>128778723
>it doesnt exist
>Oh well I actually meant that it was too little too late
You are still wrong though.

>>128778790
Fucking this

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>>128778780
"why did the USA declare war on Germany"
>"because Germany declared war on the USA first"
"oh yeah, well, uhh..."

>>128778446
Fascinating. If only they had that think during the war maybe they would have stood a chance of winning said war. And you know I bet if the US had the F-22 we would have bested the Japanese sooner as well.

This is how stupid your argument is.

You know what the US actually did have, and use, during the war? The Superfortress.

>>128778694
They also grouped all the warships they wanted replaced together, so close together that one hit on one could damage more due to proximity. The entire thing was a deliberate choice to inflame the public's sensibilities into entering a war that didnt matter to them.

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>>128777640
>until the Germans stole them away.

literal we wuz kangz slavnigger, kek

>>128777899
>>actually arguing a bolt action piece of shit is superior to the M1 Garand

I never argued that, please quote where I said that.

>The Mauser wasn't even the best bolt action

yes it was and still is

>>128778274

You seem to not understand that the German tactic was based around the squad MG and not the individual rifle men.

Most rifle men were just ammo carriers in the squad. That only changed when the STG44 arrived which based on an individual tactic.

So if you want to draw a comparison you have to do it with the Garand versus the StG.

>>128779053
>using a plane that was never used in the war as evidence that someone had a better plane during the war
Do you not realize how fucking retarded that is?

>>128778775
I just look at an atlas. I didn't see anything called "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". Just to be sure I read a Wikipedia article; it told me the USSR fragmented and collapsed in 1991

>>128779279
>I never argued that
You sure as shit did. No bolt action rifle up to that time could plausibly be argued to be even on par with the M1, let alone to surpass it.

>>128778808
It was a poor long-term strategy for sure not investing in a long-range bomber early on, but back then it seemed probably that the war in Europe would be fast and/or the US wouldn't enter the war. At the point they wanted the Amerika bombers, producing them in large quantities would have taken away from other aspects of the war effort = which is why most of these Amerika bombers are just luft46-tier napkin waffe

>>128779295

It was used in the war though, they were produced at the end of the war and they were used to fly German financial assets out of Germany into South America, why waste them fighting a war you wont lose when you can use them to maintain financial hegemony?

Go read Martin Bormann Nazi in Exile if you want to understand why they made the right choice.

I was born in 1987 and haven't fought in any wars. I'm sorry Germany, I know you were just trying to rescue my mothers side of the family who perished in Russia thanks to the Bolshevik Jews. Time to MAGA world wide.

AMERIFAT DIDNT SHIT

Who won that fucking war was Brazil and URSS, muricas just came to steal the prize. Fuck you vultures.

Ours soldiers fought so they can get paid in order to survive in this shithole. 14/88

>>128779064
Even the official timeline refutes this.

America feeds billions in arms to allies. (((Pearl Harbor))). America declares war on Japan and Germany. Germany declares war on America.

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>>128779645
But the point is that the whole idea that Germany declaring war on the USA was a good idea so that they could get the first strike in obviously holds no water when they were completely unready on any level to even touch American soil.

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>>128766903
>HURR DURR AMERICA DIDN'T DO SHIT IN WWII IT WAS ALL THE RUSSIANS
>HURR DURR ONLY AMERICA IS CULPABLE FOR THE DEFEAT OF THE NAZIS
European scum deserves to be genocided.

>>128779570

I never argued that in a bolt action is superior to a semi auto on an individual scale.
But war is not decided on an individual scale hence I assumed you got your "knowledge" from computer games.

>>128779466
>I read a Wikipedia article
Theres your problem right there. The USSR collapsed because communism itself is an unworkable ideology and the Soviet Union in particular was a very poorly managed form of communism. America certainly didn't help the reds but they didn't collapse because American freedom was so overpowering.

>>128779279
>the german standard issue battle rifle is better if you consider it as something that is not, by any definition, standard issue or a battle rifle
Sound argument faggot.

Why is some cucked numale kraut talking about firearms in the first place? You aren't even allowed to look at one without being sentenced to tolerance and diversity reeducation much less hold one.

>>128773910
I agree. Every single person who see this should take the time to watch this series. One of the best I've seen and by far the most comprehensive on the subject.

>>128779890

>American jew slave wants to genocide Europeans

nothing new here

>>128779279
>Most rifle men were just ammo carriers in the squad.
Yeah... that's pretty much the same with the US. The US actually had more MGs as a proportion of their troops (I don't remember where I read this, don't ask for source). So, a fair comparison would be between a support squad of K98s and an MG and an American squad of Garands and an almost equally effective MG.

>That only changed when the STG44 arrived which based on an individual tactic
If I remember correctly, the StG was only really given to one guy in a squad (normally the highest ranking), never as a replacement for the K98.

>>128773910
watching nazi revisionist propaganda? no thanks

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>>128779112
I wasn't arguing that it would make a difference, I was just arguing that the thing existed and that it had the capability in a Fernerkampfflugzeug configuration to engage the east coast if it took off from an airbase in France

>>128779954

I own 21 firearms legally.

Stop spouting Breitbart memes. I know more about firearms than most Americans, because I am autistic about them as I am about every of my hobbies.

i even LARP as a southern militia men with my Enfield rifled musket

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>>128779877
America feeds billions in arms to allies. Japan attacks Pearl Harbor. Japan declares war on the United States. United States declares war on Japan. Germany declares war on the United States. United States declares war on Germany. That's the official timeline.

*Russia

>>128779904
No I got my knowledge by actually having the right to use and own firearms, unlike you and your fellow limpwristed country"men."

And regardless of however far you wish to move the goalposts the original point was, and still is, that the American standard issue battle rifle was superior to the German counterpart which is an objective fact.

>>128766903
coming from Italy
you're incapable

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>>128780128

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*blocks your path*

BTFO AMERIFAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M7sUCElJK0

Dont understimate us. If we fought for the Reich you will be our bitches.

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>>128773823
>Germany started it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G57GKUtWzNs

shoo shoo goldstein

>>128780128
Oy vey, that's true goy. Never in my 30 years of being a rabbi have i witnessed such a shoah as that anti-semitic documentary.

>>128780072

I smell an amexican

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>>128780461
>On 11 December 1941, four days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the United States declaration of war against the Japanese Empire, Nazi Germany declared war against the United States

>>128766903
wow what a loser

>>128780120

I think a fair comparison would be an American Squad with two BARs vs a German Squad with one MG42.

Well no, they had experiences squads that would all be equipped with STG44s, especially SS. Just like the SS had whole squads of G43 snipers.

In regards to that topic I can recommend the book "Im Auge des Jägers" (in the eye of the hunter) from German sniper Sepp Allerberger. I just dont know if there is an English translation yet. He also documented a lot with personal photographies of his kills and fallen comrades, pretty aweful stuff.

>>128773823
fucking anime fags like u need to die

>>128780320

>>128780239
>>128780239
>>128780239

Yeah you are right in a world where we pretend that squad MG's dont exist, okay?

I fucking hate Americans

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>>128779919
>expensive arms races and worldwide proxy warfare did no lasting to harm the Soviet Union
Okay

>>128781024
Dont forget famine in areas of the USSR that are historically relied on for wheat production.

>>128780682
>u

Kill yourself you disgusting shitter. I was content with just watching this garbage thread and laughing, but I draw the line here.

Shove your scrawny fingers into a fucking blender and chop your digits off. Never enter the vicinity of a keyboard ever again. You're a fucking disgrace.
Who the fuck types like that.
How the fuck can you be so god damn stupid, and fucking inept, LAZY.

You're literal fucking scum.
What kind of sick fat low life backwater cock smoker is so fucking sucked of life an the will to live that they do this kind of thing.

>>128780864
Was every german issued an MG? Was your conversation ever about MG's? No? Maybe one day we will find a kraut who can admit they're wrong, but I fear it is not today

>>128766903
Russians would have rekt them with or without our help

>>128780469
kek

Still, there are many serious inaccuracies in the film, and its main use should be to redpill normies and show how you could easily empathize with NS Germany given the circumstances, not an acrual source of historical evidence

Also, it does nobody any good to pretend Hitler dindu nuffin. Hitler lost the fucking war--he should let his generals make the military decisions, not pretend to be some fucking tactical genius and dictate against their strong advice what troop movements to make etc. His only strength was oratory and political--he couldn't even draw a static painting with good perspective!

>>128780600
You stupid ass, the Reich was'nt a traitor like you.

>>128781169
fuck u nigger

>>128780600
>not watching the video

>>128780354
>>128780469

i actually wasted the 5 hours of my life to watch that pathetic propaganda piece that would make goebbels proud and it was complete bullshit trying to whitewash nazi machine that not only started a war that took 40 million white people but also completly destroyed idea of nationalism.

so in fact you are good goys still believing that hitler was the good guy. if he really cared about germany he would stop at czechoslovakia.

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>Adolf "hold her tighter, she's a fighter" Hitler tried to have sex with a 16 yr. old when he was 37
>claimed he was against degeneracy
Really makes you think..

>>128781269
Nazi Germany declared war on USA. This is a FACT

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>>128781024
Smug laughs don't change the truth. The arms industry was the only thing the soviets had going for them. Communism was and is always doomed to failure. A minor defeat in Afghanistan and more tank sales didn't kill the USSR any more than defeat in Vietnam and more helicopter sales killed the US.

>>128781268
Low IQ fatass or underaged retard.
Which are you?
I'm guessing both.

>>128772894

I think you should open a history book.

1918 was a consequence of 1789. The time that elapsed was a constant fight between the True Europe and Jewish-Masonic (later Socialist/Communist) enterprise.

The Liberals have won. As of yet.

>>128781209

I am not wrong.
I said that on an individual level a semi auto beats a bolt action.
But most of the time battles are fought in squads and the German tactic was based around the squad MG.

Why cant you understand this?

>>128781448
And?

>>128781521

This.

>>128781343

Source.

Also wanting to fuck women in their prime breeding age is not degenerate you eunuch.

>>128766903

Jews

>>128781670
why did his niece commit suicide? he either raped or tried to rape her

>>128781521
If you want to start a monarchist thread I'm down but dont be an asshole and claim everyone is ignorant if they dont reach back hundreds of years while discussing a simi modern topic.

>>128781343

Unironically believing this.

>>128781528
>I said that on an individual level a semi auto beats a bolt action.
Okay, so the american standard issue battle rifle was better than the mauser? You admit this? Because you said something very different here, fritz >>128777488

Shall we move the goalposts somewhere new?

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>>128781234
>Japan chimps out and attacks the USA
"Welp, gotta go to war to help them now. Doesn't matter that it will cause us to lose the war, nor does it matter that Japan was unjustified in the attack, WE HAVE to go to war now, because honor and shit, yo."

>>128781859

He could have strangled her to death and I would still follow him because he was right.l

Your attempted character assassinations are a typical kike smear. Fuck off Schlomo O'Toole

>>128781448
I never said that germany did not declared war first. The reasoning as to why hitler did this is explained in his speech.

Tl:dr roosevelt was a warmongering jew controlled cunt

>>128782124
would you kill the person you 'love', there is your answer hans

>>128782036

No you are mixing up terms.
"Outclassing" implies the German standard issue was a semi auto as well and the American one was just better.

But the American standard issue rifle was just a different animal than the German one.
Because you don't fight wars 1vs1 like in your computer games but in squads and platoons you know?

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>>128781468
It certainly doesn't change the fact that being in constant competition with the United States scientifically, economically, intellectually, militarily, and even ideologically on virtually every corner of the globe put them under tremendous strain, from which they eventually caved

>>128781307
>italian education

>>128781343

Everybody who has a normal sex drive wants to have sex with hot 16 year old girls.

>>128782308

Depends.

>>128782036
>american standard issue battle rifle
That pretty subjective honestly. Personally I prefer a bolt action to the complicated disassembly process of the M1.

>>128781307
If Hitler never turned Germany into NatSoc, and there wouldn't exist such an easy argument against a nationalist movement, nothing would change. The same powers Hitler was fighting wouldn't have loosened their grip on all aspects of power, and if you started a strong nationalist movement then you'd either get subverted or you would be remembered similarly as an argument against nationalism by history.

>>128766903

For the lulz, obviously.

>>128766903
It was russia, not america.

>>128782446

Funny how they can never agree of if Hitler was an impotent one balled pervert or actually being overly sexually attractive chasing 16 year olds.. almost like its jewish propaganda.

>>128782393
>bulgarian gipsy education

>>128782613
Don't question it goy, Hitla was a bad man!! Haven't you watched History Channel? This is like anuddah shoah!

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>>128766903
DESIGNATED

SHITTING

SHAMROCKS

>>128780598
I smell shit, oh wait just brazil

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>>128782380
>on virtually every corner of the globe put them under tremendous strain
Maybe it did maybe it didn't. Maybe it affected us worse that it did them. Seems like they caved from internal pressures brought about by the failures of communism and the inherent instability of a multi ethnic state. Like I said originally America didn't help the reds but we didn't kill the either.

America should learn from their failures as we race towards a more diverse and socialist future and to beat our chests of a Reagan myth.

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>>128766903
One day you'll understand my son, and maybe you'll thanks us that day.

>>128782836
everybody knows that Italians are a mix of gipsy and jews

>>128781887

I was trying to say that monarchy and nobility and christian chivalry are the bedrock of European Civilisation. At least "Germanic" European Civilisation (ever since the fall of Rome).

Without it, and with the liberal revolutions that seconded the French Revolution and virtually implemented the Napoleonic system... European civilisation became sick (It was Napoleon who liberated the Jews from the Ghetto and made them "normal citizens with full rights").

That era of progress before WWI already came with the sick desease of Judeo-Masonry. Whose later encarnation became Communism and "Cultural Marxism".

Basically, if you allow all white men to vote you are dooming us all.

>>128782356
The m1 garand was an inherently better rifle for what WWII was. The mauser was an incredible weapon in its own right (looking at almost any modern day bolt action rifle we can see this), but there was no situation in which it was better suited than the m1, apart from very long distances. And even then, the difference would be negligible unless optics were involved, but the Americans had the springfield, which was based on the mauser, for those situations anyway.

What situations would you rather have a mauser than an m1? Genuine curiosity, not trying to be an ass

>>128783046
*not beat our chests over a Reagan myth.

>>128766903
Jews

>>128767361
Had we not gone to war with the Japs the Chinese population would have been decimated. Both by war and occupation.

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>>128766903
>He thinks nazi germany wouldn't have crashed and burned eventually anyways
>He wants to be ruled by degenerate germans

>>128783086
I got and largely agree. Democracy is extremely overrated.

>>128769339

Oh yes. It's real fucking easy to blame someone else for your problems. Typical lefties.
It surely wasn't European people's LETTING an EU oligarchy be established on them. It surely wasn't voting for leftist principles for decades.

NOOOO! You've had nothing at all do with your decline. It was all what America did 60 years ago. Right. MY FUCKING ASS.

>declare war on soviets and USA
>get ass kicked
>FUCKING AMERICAN WARMONGERS
DURR HURR DURRRRRRRRRR

>>128778790
Why the fuck did Germany declare war on us then? We only wanted Japan until they went full retard.

>>128766903
>Allies with an island full of useless retards on the other side of planet
>Makes a non-aggression pack with a bunch of traitorous communists
>Couldn't keep it in their pants long enough for Italy to have an actual army
It's actually the Germans who ruined everything.

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>>128781307
>its all Hitler fault

oh goy if only you knew how bad things really are

>>128783293
Crashing and burning like Europe is doing now anyway? Ruled by degenerates like the degenerate filth-pushing kikes that rule all aspects of daily life already? +-0, but atleast the Germans were fighting for something great while they lasted

Hey it happened get over it lol. Jeez.

>>128783106

I own semi autos and bolt actions, everyone proficient in weapons knows that on an individual level a semi auto beats a bolt action hands down.
Like when its 1 vs 1. Obviously.

Would it have been preferable if the Wehrmacht was equipped with at least g43s or STGs? Yes of course!

BUT my point is that it did not matter that much because the German tactic was based around the machine gun, which gave squads the abilities to control whole areas despite 95% of the squad being equipped with bolt actions.
That was my point.

If there were no MGs involved the troops wielding the Garands would have obviously slaughteres the troops wielding the Mausers because of the suppressive capabilities.

>>128783653
What did Churchill think the war was won the night the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor and days before Germany declared war on the US then?

>>128783577
Two words
lend lease

>>128783685
Well I mean it was good for us. You guys are were doomed anyways because your socialist system you refuse to get rid of inherently moves towards degeneracy. Hitler would have died or been deposed eventually and you'd have another cuck come in and make it liberal.

>>128783898
I would argue that even with the german MG tactic that the garand would be much more helpful than the mauser. The MG tactic revolved around keeping heads down so the enemy could be flanked I assume? Well when that flank took place I would rather have a group of guys with mp40's and m1's rather than mp40's and mausers.

>>128773183
Women in war? That'll be the day. In your fucking bullshit animes they can do as many push ups and keep up physically with the men.

In real life. They can't.

>>128783399
They have their share of the blame but the United States propped up the liberal jew Oligarchy thats currently running Germany into the ground.

Our government is manipulated by liberal kikes and has been for the last century.

>>128784198
You just described America's future as well you know. What a victory.

>>128784198
Lurk more, NatSoc isn't Socialism. There's an image about Hitler's definition of socialism posted on every single /nsg/ thread because of this stupid misconception.

>>128783046
No it did. By your own admission, The Soviet Union was a fundementally flawed country, having to partake in the very cost enterprise that was the Cold War spread them too thin and weakened them

>>128784261

Suppressing and mortaring also you have to keep in mind that in real life units withdraw when out flanked because their is no respawn.

>>128784384
As long as we have the constitution we've got a foundation to cling to.

>>128784261
They didn't really use mp40s in mass, it was an officer weapon like the Luger.
Soviets handed ppsh/pps out like candy at the end though

>>128766903

It's funny that Europoors never want to admit it was us that won WW2 for the allies unless it's to blame us for all the problems that followed.

>>128766903
The Soviets are the ones you should be blaming

Anglos have a reputation for being perfidious. Antagonizing a monster sized version of Britain was retarded

>>128784428
I don't need to lurk more, I've been here since the beginning. NatSoc is socialism, larpers just don't like calling it that because of it's negative connotations. Hitler's definition of socialism is like Marx explaining how communism is ultimate freedom. It's just a bunch of flowery rationalization that disguises the real word application.

>>128773910
How do I watch this? If I buy it I'll be put on a watch list

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We literally live in a world where the evil side won...


Its fucked.

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>>128776799
>wilhelm II
>declared the first world war

he was on a vacation when it broke out

>>128784616
The Constitution will essentially glorified toilet paper if shitskin population keeps growing like it is.

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>>128781231
>he couldn't even draw a static painting with good perspective
ummm try again sweetie

>>128784616
I'm blackpilled on this one. The courts have made it pretty clear the constitution is meaningless. Every summer 320 million of us have to hold our breathes and see what freedoms we'll still have when the council of elders that is the supreme court makes some rulings. There will be a second constitutional convention in our lifetimes. Hopefully not after a long a bloody civil war.

>>128784438
Seems to me the military spending and the threat of a ebil enemy kept them going longer than they otherwise would have.

>>128785166
Thankfully the republican party realizes we want closed borders now and are willing to vote in an outsider if they don't give it to us.

>>128766903
>Implying the soviets wouldn't zerg rush and control all of Europe.

>>128779884
naw

pictures exist of that airplane flying over new yok

>>128785188
Hopefully people will be willing to go to war. The constitutionalists will win.

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>>128780371
Please bring back better communism and kill the modern American communists that are pathetic trash and ruin the image of power that the Soviet Union once held

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>>128783179
Hi I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son Big Hoss. Everything in here has a story and a price. One thing I've learned after 21 years you never know what is going to walk through that door. This is Pawn Stars.

>>128785400
Unfortunately sanctuary cities still exist and the court system still fights us at every turn. >>128785188

Unless people get off their asses and do more than just vote, we're fucking screwed.

>>128785188

Your digits predict that being jewish will be outlawed at the second constitutional convention by the 88th amendment

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>>128784616
>>128785188
Im sure that will work out real well

>>128784878
What can I say, Hitler's socialism isn't related to Marxism in any way. A Marxian socialist system harvests the people's product not for the wealth of the people but indeed just to provide gibs for degenerates, and fancy imported luxuries for the kikes that are in the higher circles of the marxist-socialist government. NatSoc is more or less centrist economically, and features none of this kike (((socialism))) stuff that you don't like and which nobody does.

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>>128785651

>>128779064
No, they didn't weeb-chan
The Germans shot a civillian ship they thought had munitions on, but was actually full of civvies.
America had to react.

Do you really think america gave one shit about jews? they acted like it so they can say "LOOK HOW GOOD WE ARE! WE DON'T GENOCIDE JEWS! WE ONLY GENOCIDE NATIVES AND BLACKS!"

>>128775425
yet every nationalist should admire Natonial Socialism.

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>>128766903
AND I'D DO IT AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER!

>>128785788
Which part of the constitution will stop that pic from happening?

>>128785748
Nazi germany had socialized heathcare, state run means of production, schooling, and general welfare. That's the type of socialism I don't like, and yes it's degenerate.

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>>128778179
>Germany continued the same production growth they would have won
I dont understand. The germans lost north africa and the oil resources along with it.
I know they were making synthetic oil, but I dont believe it wouldve been enough. It was the allies that now held the oil.

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>>128784318
>In real life. They can't.

They don't have to lmao, pic related, army physical fitness standards

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>>128784198

>Being this stupid