Trump BTFO by thunderf00t

>>128746234
Climate change is real

Man-made climate change isn't

Bullshit. If you invert the values you can see that the temperature is actually decreasing. Libshits BTFO by their own data.

>>128746234
Ok, now since the earth is billions of years old actually provide an inforgraph that shows the trend over at bare minimum a few million since we're currently at the end tail of an ice age and the earth regularly heats and cools.

>>128746660
There's a difference between rapid man-made climate change and,
slow natural climate change

>>128746792
Yes, and I'm asking you to show that the man made part is substantially accerlerating the natural trend.

>>128746234
> implying thundercuck is always right

>Yet another climate change thread
At least do flat earth or creationism where the denier bait is more entertaining.

>>128746234
Did we just start releasing carbon dioxide in 1980?

>>128746919
There is no other explanations for it than Co2 pollution.

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>>128746234

Expand that to 5000 year range than well talk

>>128747635
>muh 97% consensus

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>>128746234

Thundercuck is a lefty globalist boy.

If it wasn't because the feminists backstabbed him and banned him from the blog they hijacked, he probably wold have been on their side.

I believd in man made climate change.
The paris agreement is still retarded.

Hurr durr let's give money to shitskin countries in a NON BINDING agreement with no obligation whatsoever.
Oh no the money we send to china goes into coal how could this happen?

>>128746234
>Turdfoot says he's going to stop making videos
>Fucks over all his e-celeb friends so he can get out and retain his lefty cred

>Continues to make reactionary LE DRUMPF videos instead of science experiments

lol, and he wonders why people don't see scientists as paragons of virtue

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>>128748692
>The paris agreement
Yeah that thing is a fucking joke.

It's full of politics that doesn't have shit to do with the climate.

>>128746234
>climates are always changing
>how can you refute that

>>128748188
>Man-made climate change is wrong because some predictions was wrong and uh, the earth was pretty hot millions of years ago

So what is causing the rapid increase in global temperature then?

>Uuuhm, definitely not humans at least! Did I show you this graph? It's jus a (((natural change)))


Made me think

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>>128746234
who?

>>128746234
>less than 100 years in the grap
>temperature variation of less than 1 degree

kek, I love this

>>128746234
>>128746234
>Royal Society lecture on Global GREENING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5M1qtN62yk

>Since 1970s earth has gained the equivalent of 2 USAs worth of greenery across the planet
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-global-greening.html

Ambient levels of atmospheric CO2 throughout the history of Earth have fluctuated greatly irrespective of human activity and exhibited cyclical patters far before the industrial revolution and the advent of widespread petroleum combustion. The climate is a dynamic system influenced by a myriad of factors including volcanic and oceanic venting, solar cycles, cosmic events, general planetary cycles, methane releasing from the ongoing thaw of the previous ice age, and the biosphere itself, including human and industrial activity. Such complex and dynamic systems are quite robust and exhibit qualities of homeostasis; for example, as CO2 rises, the biomass of plants consequently increases – plants thrive in warm, wet, CO2-rich environments. The effect that CO2 has on temperature is largely logarithmic, with each doubling of CO2 the corresponding temperature increase becomes evermore diminished, and at our current amounts, the effects of increasing CO2 has approached levels of saturation, changing temperature very little – the modest increase in temperature due to CO2 effectively represents a burst of life and organic productivity. The extra warmth allows more water vapor to be liberated into the atmosphere, thereby allowing more plants to thrive in areas where they otherwise wouldn’t be able to – with more plants, more CO2 is drawn out from the atmosphere and incorporated into the surface flora; since the 1970s it has been observed through satellite analysis and surveying that the Earth has gained a continental-sized increase in greenery across the planet, all the while CO2 has been increasing.

>thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeRJ7KoroDI

>>128747597
Toxic hypermasculinity derives its significance directly from the conceptual penis and applies itself to supporting neocapitalist materialism, which is a fundamental driver of climate change, especially in the rampant use of carbon-emitting fossil fuel technologies and careless domination of virgin natural environments. We need not delve deeply into criticisms of dialectic objectivism, or their relationships with masculine tropes like the conceptual penis to make effective criticism of (exclusionary) dialectic objectivism. All perspectives matter.

>>128749421
Thunderfoot should be an expert on gamma males. His exemplifies the phenotype.

>>128746234
Yeah, that's not a catastrophic trend.
Earth has seen bigger spikes and has equalized itself in the past.
Quit cherrypicking your data.

>>128747635
>Climate scientists: 77
>Climate scientists saying Yes: 75

that's literally 97% of the relevant experts

Correlation does not imply causation.

The average yearly temperature is 1 degree Celsius? Fuck, that's CD.

>>128751230
You know those surveys are given on a scale

>To what extend is global warming man-made
9-10 = entirely
7-8 = mostly
5-6 = moderately
3-4 = a little
1-2 = negligible

if the person being surveyed scored it above the 1-2 range it was counted as "agreed with anthropocentric global warming" then this survey data of 97% scientists agree is used as justification for mass global carbon taxation schemes administered by a corporate bureaucracy to enslave the planet.

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>>128746234
>using a chart that somehow disagrees with actual collected temperature data
Good job I guess.

>>128751821
not this one doesn't
the "#2" referred to was the question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?", which is a yes/no question

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>>128750054
>dialectical materialism / objectivism

Kys

>>128746234

IT'S BEEN THE HOTTEST YEAR IN RECORDED HISTORY

aka hottest since 1920 aka hottest in about 90 years. This is perhaps one of the most intentionally misleading claims that stirs mistrust.

http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2011/11/23/news/world-news/climategate-2-knew-lying/

>>128752054
>>128746234
It's obvious difference datasets are being used. What are the differences between the datasets? Why should one be reject in favor of another?

>>128746234
He was wrong about some stuff he said about Lauren Southern in the past, but instead of admitting it he's now targeting her as if any new hit on her would prove the falsehoods he previously claimed about her. He just. Can. Not. Let. Go. Not. Go. Let. Can. Go. Let. Can. Not.

>>128746400
/thread

>>128747597
No explanation for what?

He asked you to prove that the temp increase the last 100 years is an unnatural anomaly

I still haven't seen satisfactory numbers

If we can definitively say this was off-the charts strange, what was the 2nd highest century-long temp increase in last 5k years, 10k years, and100k years, respectively and how do they compare?

>>128753096
/thread

>>128752616
/thread

>>128750054
You had me at conceptual penis

>>128753175
>>128753251
>>128753311

I'm not autistic

>>128746400
Climate change is not real either. Stop being a fucking retard.
Climate has not changed and will not change for thousands of years.

Why would a fucking billionaire with lots of businesses care for the environment? Trump is a cultured jew, money first before others

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>>128746234

Oh look something is threatening thundercunts wallet again

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>>128746234
Fake graph
>>128747635
Nvidia-tier graph

>>128746234
Why does he call legitimate criticism and arguments "denial"?

Is there any reason he needs to be intellectually dishonest when making his (incorrect) point?

>>128746400
Don't bother, it's too much for them. There's a reason why all of these morons defending this bullshit ran away from Maths, Physics and Chemistry in school, apart from those scientists being paid by the UN of course..

>>128753434
So do you think you have to be a heartless bastard with no regard for the world around you to ever become a billionaire?
Or is it just a symptom where the people who inherent the money also don't care about anything but themselves and of course their money?

>>128746234
WEW sure is good obama put in all those regulations. Really seems to have helped.

>>128746234
Fascinating. There is correlation between Trump existing and temp increases. He's literally so hot the entire globe warms up. Can we use trump genetics to create a new form of green energy tech? Quick, someone publish a paper on this. This is game changing.

>>128746660
https://xkcd.com/1732/

>>128746234
I wonder if the compiled temperature data from before the 1950s is really "global" and not taken from a small pool of labs in the relatively mild climates in the US and Europe.

>>128754229
>>>>>>>>>>>>citing xkcd

>>128746234
Look at how much it increased during Obama's presidency. How can libtards defend this?

>>128752945
http://web.archive.org/web/20101119032610/http://www.examiner.com/essex-county-conservative-in-newark/hadley-cru-hacked-with-release-of-hundreds-of-docs-and-emails

>>128754372
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meme arrows

Hadn't hear Trump's ideas about the ozone layer before. Topkek. Drumpf BTFOs himself like clockwork. Tick tock.

>>128754636
"And, you get to see somebody with the name of phil jones say that he would rather destroy the CRU data than release it to McIntyre. And lots lots more. including how to obstruct or evade FOIA requests. and guess who funded the collection of cores at Yamal.. and transferred money into a personal account in Russia[.] And you get to see what they really say behind the curtain.. you get to see how they “shape” the news, how they struggled between telling the truth and making policy makers happy. [Y]ou get to see what they say about Idso and pat micheals, you get to read how they want to take us out into a dark alley, it’s stunning all very stunning. You get to watch somebody named phil jones say that John daly’s death is good news.. or words to that effect. I don’t know that its real.. But the CRU code looks real"

>watching thunderfoot after all the retarded social justice drama he pulled

you're never going to get your global carbon tax you fucking retards. even if you dream dreaming that you're going to tax people for breathing is delusional fucking dipshit. a bunch of subhuman feminist, kikes, and shitskins will never dominate the world

>>128754845
http://web.archive.org/web/20100128005153/http://www.examiner.com:80/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d21-Who-leaked-the-Hadley-CRU-files-and-why

>>128754919
with brexit he basically has shown hes just has the same thought patterns and uses the same tactics he criticizes the feminist for.

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>global warming stopped in 1998
>the scientists literally just go back and change the data so that it now didn't stop in 1998

Daily reminder: Climate change action is pushed for by the 1%.

>>128750054

Being that women are the top consumers, drive cars around like crazy, and can't sit still for five minutes? Everything you just said falls to shit. Bye now.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/13/climategate-3-0-has-occurred-the-password-has-been-released/

>>128747597
>Doesn't look at the sun

Pro tip brah its kind of a big deal

>>128749308
>starts the industrial revolution
>blesses the rest of the world with global greening
wtf I love white people now

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>3rd largest industry in world is OPEC
>$1027 billion revenue
>..
>the reason all the data points to man-made climate chnage isss the climaate change shiillllsss!!!!

Nice logic /pol/

>>128746234
>Climate change
>"change"
i see what you did there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_861us8D9M

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>>128746400
the global temperature has been changing ever since the creation of earth. for instance durring it's first few hours it was a gazillion degrees. and humanity survived that just fine 6000 years ago. climate change btfo.

>>128755801
Because I'm sure you can trust the (((climate scientists))) who make their living exclusively by this. Also the tax on carbon (the building block of life) is a tax on fucking everything ever,.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html

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>>128746234
May as well post this, since it's gonna be one of those threads again.

>>128755801
That is not a good argument. If you bring down that industry, it will need to be replaced. Guess by whom? Really makes me think...

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>>128746234
>it's another college professor shills for climate change memes to get government funding episode

>>128755587
>blog
>>128755211
>news site
>>128754636
>news site
>>128753663
>reverse image leads to blogs
>>128753096
>one pixel of human made CO2 emmisions
>>128752054
Cherry picking, blogs and al gore
>>128748188
One pixel of human made CO2
>>128747635
>Disproving your own point
>>128756433
>Cherry picking
>>128756282
>news site

How about someone posts a SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEWED PAPER?

>>128755847
>humanity survived that just fine 6000 years ago
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>128755801
>>128756299
Just an example. Portugal got on the climate change bandwagon during 2000-2010. We all said: let us save the environment and lead the world by example. As a result, we massively invested in shitty technology that produces electricity at 4 times the cost. At the moment, almost half of our electricity bill is to cover the additional costs of renewable energy. And do note I'm saying additional costs, so I mean this is what you pay above what you would pay were you using fossil fuels. Portugal has now some of the most expensive electricity in Europe, even when not accounting for the cost of living. This makes Portugal very uncompetitive for firms and screws final consumers.

Temperature records suggest that global climate models have overestimated the impact of global warming. The records are always on the lower end of their estimates, meaning there is clearly something wrong with what they're doing. Given that temperatures are not rising as much as predicted, and that renewables are still not up to par with fossil fuels, we should simply wait. Wait until renewables are a feasible and profitable alternative, and wait until you indeed start having signs of the catastrophe they have been announcing since the 1990s.

tl;dr Portugal was scammed by renewable energy.

>>128753422
Latvia was under an ice sheet 10,000 years ago

>>128746234
If climate change is real then why do libshits consume the most by far?

City faggots are the worst.

>>128746234

dosnt matter if its real or right, its become politiciezed and Trump is on the right side

>>128756823
find one yourself

>the right climate is coincidentally also best for humans

really makes me think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqsRD4HPtH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o38ywQ2ukcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pZKZX0FYc

>>128746234
wait, are you saying that the WEATHER IS ACTUALLY CHANGING?

>>128746234
Thunderfoot is also pro-nuckear

Thinks fukushima and chernobyl are not big deal and dumping irradiated water into our rivers is also ok

>>128747597
>Co2 pollution
you sure about that?

>>128746234
Thunderfoot is a crashing bore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0

HOLY SHIT ZERO POINT EIGHT DEGREES? WE'RE BLOODY DOOMED!

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>>128753096

>>128752455
Yes, retard. Also, TO WHAT DEGREE.

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GUYS IT WAS +8 THIS MORNING BUT NOW IT'S +28! WHAT AN INCREASE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!

>>128759506
Fugg, did it wrong. Here:
https://youtu.be/OqsRD4HPtH0?t=8m3s

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>>128758749
>Thunderfoot is a crashing

literally

>>128746234
Thunderf00t is literally one of the ugliest people I've ever seen.

>>128746234
Thunderfoot is a faggot. I prefer jews and niggers to Thinderfoot

>>128746234
>current ice age is ending
>why is the temperature increasing?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bNzLj5E_Q

Of course this Jewish neanderthal is pro Paris Climate Agreement, he think he'll get some funding out of it.

>>128753217
>If we can definitively say this was off-the charts strange, what was the 2nd highest century-long temp increase in last 5k years, 10k years, and100k years, respectively and how do they compare?

I would love the answer to this if anyone has a reliable sauce

>>128757840
>You haven't got a single bit of credible evidence
>find it for me

>>128757325
It aint easy doing the right thing. You'll be rewarded in the long term though.

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>>128760111
UHM A AFEIST IM A SCOIENIST I ONLY LUK AT DA EVUDUNCE

>>128758764
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
5-8 degree celsius increase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event
>96% of all marine species[6][7] and 70% of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct.
8 degree celcius increase and 2000 ppm CO2 increase (we just hit 400 ppm CO2)

Possible cause:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis

>>128760442
fuck off

you always talk about how the oil industry is behind "climate denialism" but a shit ton of shekels were made in Portugal, and a whole inefficient industry of dependent people was created because of this. Subsidizing renewable energy is cancer. When it gets efficient enough, electricity producers will gradually shift towards it. There is no need for intervention.

>>128746234
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to short of a timeframe to show actual climate change.

How about you pull up the ones that shows the difference by thousands of years? That's right bitch you won;t because it shows that nothing out of the ordinary is happening.

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>>128761253
Explain this kike

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>>128761458
THE ERF IS DOOMED

>>128746792
>natural changes are always slow
Bullshit.

>>128746400
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>>128761458

>>128762259
You'd think that the kikes would actually appreciate a warmer climate being called blooded lizards and all

>>128762402
yeah but they appreciate making money while it's on it's way up, they will do the same shit when it's on its way back down too mark my fucking words.

OY VEY THE WORLD IS COOLING AND ITS BECAUSE YOU! CO2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE BLOCKS SUN RAYS FROM HEATING EARTH DONATE NOW!

>>128746234
Thunderfoot is a god among men. He literally destroys shills with his amazing intelligence

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>>128746234
>climate change threads

>>128761458
>reverse image search gives blogs

Solar irradiance data:
ftp://ftp.pmodwrc.ch/pub/data/irradiance/composite/DataPlots/
If your image was true it seems our earth should be cooling right now.

Here's a nice simple explanation for why your image is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kejSYPD7U

>>128761458
wow you might as well be a flat-earth believer with that chart.

>implying we have historical records of what the temperature was in 2200BC

>"whenever volcanic a ctivity has increased global temperatures plummet"
>graph shows the complete opposite

>previous ups and downs are slow and steady
>current century shows sharp peaks and valleys
>implying this is normal

you science deniers are so goddamn stupid it hurts

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>>128752054
Natural carbon and half of human produced is balanced out by nature.
anthropogenic climate change is real, but carbon tax is not a solution and only hurts small businesses there are also lot of exaggeration by leftists politicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6Z04VJDco

>>128762770
He's an utter and complete idiot.

>>128761616
You do realise extinction events have happened in history due to temperature changes?

>>128762997
>hasn't read a single scientific paper on climate change
>instead of reading one makes a image in paint characterising climate scientists as retards

>>128762770
thundercuck pls go

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>>128762997
updated
>>128763576
i don't need to, i don't contribute to the problem, or at least an EXTREMELY small amount. what else can i do more than that? i'm not going to force people at gun point to pay money to a central authority that will "magically" fix the problem. the problem is consumerism and satanism, its a retarded cultural problem not scientific and authoritative problem.

>>128763101
>extrapolations of what the climate was like millions of years ago being less exact and showing fewer fluctuations than more recent data acquired by far more precise means is abnormal
and you have the nerve to talk to others about "science"?

>>128763066
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228392-300-hyperwarming-climate-could-turn-earths-poles-green/amp/

Are you denying that the current erf temperature is extremely low to what it usually is?

>>128763368
How do you liberal kikes gonna deal with it then? You faggots will pray for the government to invent a magical McGuffin to save the planet, and fap over scientific doomsday predictions. Implying that the temperature isn't rising naturally since the end of the ice age to what it was before the ice age and it will keep Russian no matter how much you faggots virtue signal about saving the erf when this is the natural state of the planet to begin with

>>128763101
There were no ice caps 50 million years ago you retard it was a lot warmer so warm in fact to support huge ass land lizards Who was doing the global warming back then you kike?

>>128746234
>Starting Year 1920
>Accurate representation of temperature change

>>128764021
The issue to progressives is not the best way to tangibly resolve a problem, but how to look like they're doing something proactive so they can virtue signal and pretend that those who disagree with their proposed solutions to issues actually deny the very existence of the issue. It's an extremely complex web of strawmen and psychological issues along with a complete disregard for pragmatism that leads to this.

Constantly thinking within a framework of social interactions/relationships and caring more about what sounds righteous and acceptable to others than proper solutions has always been associated with femininity, and recently with reduced activity in the neocortex (same thing), for a reason.

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>>128761458

>>128746400
The thread has ended

>>128749150
clearly you didn't "think" because its not "rapidly" increasing at all.

Also, this climate "science" is bullshit you can't present a hypothesis only to have it rejected but then tweak the algorithms slightly and act like this time its settled science.

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>>128761458
>>128764021

>>128751681
but you need corrolation for there to be causation

>>128746792

The difference is that we have historical measurements for the current situation and """proxies""" for everything else.

Hell the historical data is being mass manipulated. The mismatch between tidal gauges and satellite data is getting fucking retarded.

There is no AGW, the sea level was fucking rising already before the oil industry took off ... and sea level rise is not accelerating (using tide gauge data).

>>128758656
The water they dump isn't irradiated. But they don't wait for it to cool down so it fucks the river's ecosystem anyways.

>>128763836
>I dont need to read the raw evidence, the news and random blogs will tell me the truth
ok man good luck with that

>>128764021
I like how you linked a new scientist article when I advised you used scientific literature. That's cute. Though you need not because everybody who's left primary school education knows that the earth was hotter at some points in history.

Nobody is contending this. I suggest you look what happens to biodiversity during temperature swings. If we were above the average temperature and we started cooling dramatically because some man-made procedure was sucking greenhouse gases from the atmosphere that would also be alarming.

>How do you liberal kikes gonna deal with it then?
Invest in renewable energies. Like Germany has done and like Portugal has done. It will cost you economically to start with and electricity prices aren't going to be great initially. But hey, at least you aren't part of the problem. Most models show mass immigration gives a net gain to the economy but I'm guessing you would sacrifice that economic gain for the greater good.

>>128747597
>Co2
>pollution

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>>128764805
> muh chart

> muh counter chart

http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/07/26/is-todays-climate-warmer-than-the-medieval-and-roman-warm-periods/

> Climate alarm skeptics will be pleased to see in the chart above evidence that the Roman Warm Period and Medieval Warm Period were warmer than the late 20th century. On the other hand, they may not be pleased by an apparent implication of the study. If Northern Hemisphere temperatures have been in an overall cooling trend for two millennia due to “orbital forcing” (i.e. reduced solar irradiance), then the burden of proof becomes greater on those who attribute the warmth of recent decades to solar variability rather than rising greenhouse gas concentrations.

Your kikery will be far more convincing when the average temperature goes above the highly industrialized ages of Rome and The Middle Ages

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>>128747635
ALL DAT CONSENSUS

>>128765479
Germany and Portugal are irrelevant, filthy Chinks, Russians and Amerifats need to be nuked and then everything will be solved, if Hitler would have won none of this would be happening now.

>>128746234
So it grew the most during Obama administration. Thank, Obama.

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>>128765417
>°F

>medieval warm period only was 0,25°F warmer and mostly colder than today

>Invest in renewable energies. Like Germany has done and like Portugal has done. It will cost you economically to start with and electricity prices aren't going to be great

It will still increase. You cannot maintain the temperature if there is a spike in solar or volcano activity it will rise and the ice caps will still melt and the methane will still be released from the permafrost into the atmosphere and it will still get warmer and you kikes will still screech autisticslly what are you faggots gonna tape over all the permafrost so the methane doesn't escape in the summer?

>>128765417

The little ice age got a lot deeper since the hockeystick graph ... wonder how much longer it will take for the medieval warm period rises a bit.

>>128765667
It's still close in your graph and temperatures will keep growing now.

>>128765829
Please take your meds then come back and talk rationally.

>>128765753
Is this supposed to be evidence against AGW?

It says right there in the image that only 0.7% of papers reject it.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024/pdf
If you had actually read the paper instead of just reposting this image you would have read that:

"Among abstracts that expressed a position on AGW, 97.1%
endorsed the scientific consensus. Among scientists who
expressed a position on AGW in their abstract, 98.4%
endorsed the consensus."

The number you are highlighting is simply the number of papers which do not take a position on it in the subject matter...

You can decide which one you are now: dishonest, stupid or both.

>>128766852
I said nothing wrong, kys paki

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>>128766758
So what caused the spikes before 1800 when industry began to emit carbon into the atmosphere? The ice left over from the fucking ice age is melting and as this happens methane escapes into the atmosphere accelerating the process causing more melting. You don't have a solution to this because it's already in process you can completely ban CO2 and still get BTFO every summer since fucking methane is 90% of the cause when it comes to actual warming

>>128767413
>puts fart bags on every cow

>>128766276
>solar radiation and volcanic activity are the main drivers of climate change
This is not true and you've given no evidence for it. I also gave strong evidence to the contrary above which you've ignored.

>>128767148
Perhaps, but you said nothing relevant. Instead yo blurted a stream of uncontrolled autist rage.

>>128767230
>some people are doing it worse so we shouldn't lead the way
This is like saying we should shit in our own backgardens because Indians shit in the streets. Also China has just made MASSIVE investments into renewables just recently and may become a world leader in it soon.

>>128767574
You can kill all the cows and animals and people as well the methane is released by the melting permafrost you can observe it in Siberia and Northern Canada with the melting ice literally boiling as the methane that was hurried for thousands of years is released

>>128746400
/thread

>>128758656
They put less radiation into the environment than a coal burning plant, you worthless uneducated plebeian fuck.

>thunderfaggot

>>128759636
Jesus christ if it goes on like this it will be 6 gorrillion degrees by the end of june. WHAT THE FUCK!!

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>>128746234
Nobody cares, Fedoraf00t

>>128746234
>still giving thundercuck attention after he went full sjw for pussy and got denied.

this loser got moot'd

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>the Earth's temperature has stayed the same until humans invented the car

>>128768277
Kind of an important issue to just ignore... sure seems a lot of people care about it.

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>>128768222
checked

>>128768465
So our brains are just another fetus that grew inside of our skulls? I learn so much here, make sure to put on some extra layers boys june is going to be a scorcher!

>>128768371
No scientist has ever said that and the fact that you think they have is disconcerting.

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>>128760393
Core samples from the ground and ice caps

>>128768719
yes my friend our third dimensional body is merely incubating our fourth dimensional selves that are born when we "die".

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>>128768746
That's the implication of your stupid little graph, though.

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>>128767413
Solar activity, decreased volcanic activity and ocean circulation
Fuck you leaf, I'm dying of heat cunt I want more ice ages. most humans should be exterminated that's the real solution.

>>128767796
It was relevant, Hitler was environmentalist
>trusting the chink
Chinks and Amerifats fucking breath too much, they deserve to get their throats slits along with Oilniggers

>>128748893
his smug attitudes after the brexit vote lead me to think he is a piece of shit.

>>128767413
Also is not 90%, it's more like 30% faggot

>>128768746
> What’s happening today really started about 22,000 years ago, when the world began to warm at the end of the last Ice Age. When much of the far north was covered in glaciers, central-interior Alaska was an oasis for mammals that grazed on the area’s tundra grasses. Then the climate began to warm, and the icy layers of permafrost already under the grassy tundra, which never used to thaw, thoroughly melted during the summer months, causing the ground to subside and meltwater to fill the depressions, forming lakes and pools. All that melting permafrost pushed greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, accelerating warming, much as it does today.

> Without a lot more data, there’s no way to know for sure how much methane is escaping from lakes like these globally. But according to the latest estimates, published last year in Biogeosciences, thawing beneath lakes in yedoma permafrost—the oldest, most carbon-rich type of permafrost found in Alaska and Siberia—could, by 2100, increase the amount of methane accumulated in the Earth’s atmosphere by as much as 2.6 billion metric tons. By 2300, that could spike to 10 billion metric tons. Before 2000, yedoma permafrost hadn’t thawed enough to begin forming these methane lakes. Now there’s no looking back. “It’s like the food for microbes has been locked away in the freezer for 30,000 years,” Walter Anthony says, “and now the freezer door is open.” The degree of warming that implies is catastrophic. “The methane causes climate warming, which causes more permafrost to thaw, which causes more gas to be produced, which causes more warming, so you get a positive feedback loop.”

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.newsweek.com/2016/06/10/permafrost-greenhouse-gases-global-warming-465585.html%3Famp%3D1

Good luck trying to prevent this climate cuck

>>128746400
/thread desu

>>128746234
it is real
what the fuck are you going to do about it?
oh right, nothing, because industry depends on hydrocarbon fuel sources to be cheap

>>128746234
Why do these pseudo scientists only ever use climate data going back to the turn of century when climate trends occur over thousands of years.

Looking at such a small sample is like trying to determine a song from the first second of music

ONE.

ONE FUCKING DEGREE, over 100 years.
This is why nobody intelligent takes this seriously.
Where is the margin of error, where are the data points located, how many data points are there, how are the city data points weighted versus rural and arctic points?

Now he has a watcher less.
Kys attention whore

>>128769893
> The Arab Spring mass migration and the Syrian civil war was because the temperature increased by one degree over a hundred years

Best fucking one

>>128769893
One degree GLOBAL, also most of the warmth is going in oceans.

>>128768928
I haven't posted a graph?

Do you understand what gradient is? Do you understand that over a region of time there can be a higher value but a lower gradient?

Do you understand that why high gradients (temperature swings) are a bad thing?

>>128769521
>links news site
Without reading the entire news article what I'm guessing they are describing is the clathrate gun hypothesis which I've already described in the thread.

>try prevent this climate cuck
>hahaha that will show him: I identified a possible doomsday scenario and advocated running straight towards it
What is your end game? Are you implying that we should drive straight into these feedback mechanisms and fuck ourselves in 100 years rather than 10,000 years?

>>128746234
Theres no point if china and india keeps polluting the earth. Trump is 100% correct.

>>128770380
The graph you're defending, the OP's.

You're offended that I'm not becoming a climate cultist after seeing the graph.

>>128768846

right
so what's the answer?

>>128769893
>This is why nobody intelligent takes this seriously.
Source on this? It seems only hicks and Trump deny the scientific evidence.

>Where is the margin of error, where are the data points located, how many data points are there, how are the city data points weighted versus rural and arctic points?
Things you would know if you bothered to read scientific papers.

>ONE FUCKING DEGREE, over 100 years.
5-8 degrees is huge extinction range, See >>128761253

>>128770757
Do you understand that its the rate of change in temperature rather than the temperature itself that is a threat?

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>>128746400
Wrong, current type of global warming cannot be considered natural since it's scientifically proven not to be due to the Milankovitch cycles, but due to CO2 / Methane emissions and thus the greenhouse effect.

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>>128746234
>Data going back a few decades
>at all sufficient to establish climate trend

Thunderfoot is a retard and doesn't understand math or science. That is literally like looking at stock market data over a single day and trying to pick a trend. And even if it was sufficient to show a trend, that does not show what causes the trend. And even if it did show what caused the trend that cannot be established in the first place, it doesn't show how the Paris scam solves the alleged problem at all.

>>128771020
The rate of temperature change has stayed the same until humans invented the car?

Is that what you're arguing?

>>128771150
False.

>>128770380
> linking a news site

I'm sorry is that bad? Are we scientists? Are we in a university? Are we writing a peer reviewed paper right now? Are you yourself a scientist, faggot? Do you have a poster of Neil D Grass Tyson on your wall? Do you fap when you hear TED talks and listen to Stephen Hawkins electric voice talking about transhumanism and the singularity? Is Captain Spock your favourite sci of character? Are you a radical centrist and an atheist? Kys kike it mentions muh scientific study as a source so does this one

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/sec.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/melting-arctic-permafrost-releasing-ancient-carbon-study-confirms/article31542434/%3Fservice%3Damp

> What is your end game?

I hope the climate wipes out your fucking island through a massive rise in sea levels while all that melted ice will make Canada have a agricultural and water monopoly with unlimited lebensbraum

>>128746234
Climate change is not real. There, helped you finish your sentence you bumbling anti science moron. Climate change is a fraud, just like the Clintons appearing to be anything but Satanists.

>>128771384
There isn't sufficient data to say one way or another

>>128771270
>Thunderf00t is a retard who doesn't understand math or science

>Thunderf00t is literally a scientist

>But Thunderf00t doesn't even into science

How can you be this fucking stupid.

Do you even know who John Tyndall is?

>>128756823
>>one pixel of human made CO2 emmisions
the one image you don't ignore because of its source or argument, you make some babble brained remark that doesn't make any damn sense.

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>>128771593
That's a lot of money for a "maybe".

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>>128746234

>>128765479
all your arguments are is "muh sources i want muh papers". isn't that a logical fallacy? rhetorical question, yes it is. regardless, you don't even say what your reason is for ignoring the sources of information.

>>128771522
I love you brother

>>128746234
>atheist faggot that has to find a a problem with everything

>>128771934
>oey vey goyim you need to redistribute the wealth in order to combat the climate change!! Dont worry, give the money to us, the world bank, and we will redistribute it fairly

how can anyone fall for this? If global business leaders want to reduce emissions... then why dont they just reduce emissions in their businesses? Why do they instead demand that we pay them money to do something they want to do?

>>128772270
The West has made great advances in reducing emissions. Third world countries have not and will not anytime soon. Yet the climate cult demands that the West pay trillions of dollars into a slush fund that will just go to corrupt third world governments and the pockets of the cult leaders.

>>128772270
because theyre jew fucks who want to trick stupid people who think theyre smart. classic scam

>>128771522
Except it is real. You're a fucking moron dude. Even the right admit it's real now. The question is what can we do? The answer is absolutely nothing unless we want to stop all progress and stop using any fossil fuels whatsoever and stop eating meat. So basically it ain't happening.

>>128772270
How are the liberals gonna prevent billions of niggers in the third world from burning wood and coal for energy and farming? It's very Eurocentric of them having industrialized through coal in the past saying to industrializing third worlders that they are doing it wrong. If I was a third world government I'd just wait for the arrogant faggot at the EU to kill his industry and competitive advantage while proceeding in full fucking force

>>128746234

Is it time for a...DAILY REMINDER?

* A doubling of preindustrial CO2, absent any feedbacks, would result in a maximum forcing of +1.2C.

* The General Circulation Models, and the IPCC, predict 2-8C of warming because AGW theory assumes a positive H2O feedback. They assume that if CO2 causes a little warming, the atmosphere will hold more water vapor and that more water vapor will lead to a lot of warming.

* The warming predictions cover such a large range because everyone assumes a different average H2O feedback rate.

* Every GCM based on this assumption has failed to model temperatures for the past 17 years. They are all trending too high.

* In the late 1990's the modelers themselves stated that if they missed their predictions for more then a decade that would falsify AGW theory.

* There is no data to suggest a +H2O feedback either now or in Earth's past.

* If there is no +H2O feedback then we literally have nothing to worry about.

* The average climate change believer knows none of this. Politicians, citizens, activists, surprisingly even a lot of scientists are literally ignorant of the theory and the math. In their mind it's simply "CO2 = bad" and "experts say we're warming faster then ever."

>>128749150
>tries to fit in using TRS echo meme
>fucks it up
Lurk two years before posting newfriend

>>128746234
That's not evidence it's man-made or that we can do anything to realistic halt it

>>128772992
No goyim, you pay now

>>128752455
"Significant" in a statistical context can just mean "non-zero" Hans

>>128772058
>Scientist claim that CO2 is the sole driver of climate
No, they don't you utter faggot

http://droyer.web.wesleyan.edu/PhanCO2(GCA).pdf

>>128772728
heh, check the satellite readings my friend

>>128767796
>Also China has just made MASSIVE investments into renewables just recently and may become a world leader in it soon

This is going to fuck us economically too. They will be exporting that while nobody wants our dirty shit.

>>128753411

k..keep me posted

>>128756823
>MUH PEER REVIEW!!!

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37798/title/Fake-Paper-Exposes-Failed-Peer-Review/

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/02/peer-review-failure-science-and-nature-journals-reject-papers-because-they-have-to-be-wrong/

Peer review is nothing more or less than someone reading a paper. No experimentation, no replication of results, nothing. Peer review is NOT scientific because it is NOT part of the scientific method.

>reverse image leads to blogs
The data comes from UAH which you would know if you weren't a lazy fuck wit.

>>128764449
/thread

>>128771384
No. I'm saying that when the gradient has been this high before everything has gone to shit. Life needs time to adapt to severe climate change, evolution is a slow process. See >>128761253

>>128771457
>I'm sorry is that bad?
That you're taking data from news sources instead of the primary sources? Yes. I thought /pol/ was the cheif of skepticism and yet your happy to have some journalist scramble up the data put his slant on it then regurgitate it straight into your open mouth.

>Are we scientists? Are we in a university? Are we writing a peer reviewed paper right now?
No but this is climate science. This isn't theoretical physics. You need essentially no background to read a abstract, graph, conclusion or methodology. It is really from a lack of trying rather than a lack of intelligence or expertise. If you can't be fucked to read through a paper or two just listen to a scientist in the field pick apart some climate skeptics arguments. e.g. Potholer54

>another news link about clathrate hypothesis
I know of the hypothesis dude. The science is not out on whether we are in full feedback loop mode with it yet...you're solution seems to be to provide the conditions which would make it so and possibly kill most life on earth.

>>128772096
>isn't that a logical fallacy? rhetorical question, yes it is. regardless
You sound like a 15 year old.

>even say what your reason is for ignoring the sources of information
Do you know why peer review is important?

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>>128774039
>Do you know why peer review is important?
It's not important at all. It's complete bullshit and this is regularly discussed and documented by actual scientists.

Testing a theory by its predictions is science. AGW predictions range all over the place and are quite frankly too wide for the theory to be taken seriously. But even with all this slop they do have a floor. At this point over 90% of the GCMs which try to model AGW are out of bounds. In other words: falsified.

Either there is no H2O feedback (that means more atmospheric H2O AND more warming as a result) to increasing CO2, or a very weak feedback.

These guys are scientists calling bullshit.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/03/09/lindzen-responds-to-the-mit-letter-objecting-to-his-petition-to-trump-to-withdraw-from-the-unfcc/

>>128746400
Citation needed.

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>>128746234

Nice hypothesis you have there. Be a shame if someone were to test it.

I am pretty sure you know about the Minoan, Roman and Medieval Warm Periods. Or Maunder Minimum (Dalton Minimum) etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

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>>128746234


I'm glad you can understand sarcasm. Here's something without politics in that case. I guess you all like SCIENCE so much, and are allergic to politics (a good thing - in this case you should be allergic to BS from China and Russia too).

Just look at the graphs.

Atmospheric carbon is a mixture of different isotopes, the most frequent by far being C12. The (non-radioactive) isotope C13 is usually taken as a proxy for human emissions. The story goes like this: Plants have a preference for the lighter C12, so an atmosphere where much of the CO2 originates from released carbon that was stored in plant matter should have a deficit in C13 (called delta-C13).

As fossil fuels like coal and oil are essentially old plants, burning them would release carbon with a C13 deficit (negative delta-C13) and the more we will burn, the higher this deficit (i.e. the more negative the observed delta-C13). Ice core CO2 samples show that indeed delta-C13 becomes strongly more negative since about 1960. So this would be the non-disputable fingerprint of human activity!

Now look at the NATURAL (C12) vs HUMAN (C13) CO2. Prof. Salby starts with a picture from the IPCC showing the global carbon fluxes: natural emissions and sinks are about 150 Gt per year, human emissions are 5 Gt/y. These numbers are a bit on the low side, actual ones seems more like 152 an 7. But what is clear is that human emissions do represent only a tiny part of the natural fluxes.


Here are the various cross-calibrated proxies including carbon-14 and beryllium-10 recording solar activity in tree rings or ice cores. You could find more about the Maunder Minimum here: "A History of Solar Activity over Millennia". Living Reviews in Solar Physics 5 (3). doi:10.12942/lrsp-2008-3

http://www.scienceforums.net/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-88603-0-23321000-1398752131.png

Here's a somehow related study:

http://solarphysics.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrsp-2008-3/download/lrsp-2008-3Color.pdf

>>128746234
Stop baiting, Thundercuck, we are not watching your videos...

>>128746234
Nice chart, 1930s no longer the second warmest because... reasons?

>>128747597
>Co2 pollution
But plants need it, and I like plants.
Why do you hate them so much?
You aren't an anti-plantist, are you?!

>>128747597
What does Cobalt have to do with anything?

>>128746234

I made it to 2:56 before having to close the video due to an overdose of bluepilled retardation

The fact that he uses a graph that clearly shows no significant warming from 98 to the present or gets away with saying "omg 2016 hottest year ever guyz" when it was 0,04ºC hotter than the previous one just goes to show how completely braindead lefties are

>>128746234
>>128749150

>RAPID INCREASE
>RAPID INCREASE

THIS GUY LITERALLY WATCHED THE FUCKING VIDEO

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU BELIEVE IN IS REFUTED IN THE OWN VIDEO YOU POSTED

PAUSE AT 2:56 LOOK AT THE SCREEN FOR 1MIN AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS

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> "97% of climate scientists agree"..

When these guys calling themselves "climate scientists" wanted to use RICO Act vs climate change skeptics, and all the talking heads in NGO's said "teh science is settled", this reminded me of Galileo.

Scientific consensus is a political term, there is not such a thing in true science. Even in Galileo's time, 99.999% of the "scientists" believed in the geocentric theory. It was preposterous to think otherwise. Yet ALL of them were wrong. But not even then Cardinal Bellarmine had the guts to establish scientific fact by edicts, like Obama did. It's crazy. And dangerous.
___

Last year, the world’s top particle physics research facility, CERN, turned the global warming debate upside down. CERN found, in the first-ever laboratory analysis of cloud chemistry, that solar variations—not CO2 molecules—were the biggest factor in the earth’s recent warmings!

CERN’s CLOUD experiment findings are now being used to model predictions for the next 100 years—and the model shows a solar sunspot minimum will soon lower earth’s temperatures by half a degree C. The long cold minimum is expected to hit about 2040, and such minimums have historically lasted about 60 years. Equally important, the solar minimum will come on the heels of the current 20-year “hiatus” in earth’s warming, which has defied the climate modelers.
Together, the two events could mean no trend increase in earth’s thermometer readings from 1998 until after 2100! That’s a century of non-warming, and neither occurrence is connected to CO2 changes. This finding demotes CO2 to a supporting role, contributing no more than one degree C warming for a redoubling of atmospheric CO2.

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisavery/2017/04/04/new-eurostudies-confirm-sun-dominates-earths-climate-n2308564?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad

>>128771390
False.

>>128776537
Naturally released CO2 and big part of human caused CO2 is absorbed back, humans are adding too much now and it started accumulating

.

>>128746234
>every year is the hottest year on record

UMMM

FAKE SCIENCE MUCH???

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>>128778242
Both Solar activity and greenhouse gasses are biggest drivers of climate, but recent warning is not caused by sun.

>>128778242

The thing these guys don't seem to understand is that with all the money being wasted into climate change policies, the world could be improved so much by investing on other things. There are literally people dying or living in a lower standard of living because of this collective tripe. People like to say that atheism or statism are the "religions" of the west but there is nothing so dogmatic, emotional and heretic to question as climate change. Climate change catastrophism is the religion of the west.

>>128746234
OI

Of course climate change is real. Now give me a bag of money and I'll make it go away.

>>128746234
oh my god it went up one whole degree in 100 years oh nooooo that suuuuucks

Just a few more dollars guys.

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>>128779742

Nope. C13 (called delta-C13) is the only human contribution and it's small. Look at the natural cycles in history. Nature has a much bigger role in CO2 sequestration (plants, see the yield in crops and so on).

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>>128779742

The Amazon is one of the most important contributor to CO2 in the world, dwarfing by far the human sources (by 2 orders of magnitude). So if you want to be consistent in you defense of CO2 and "globull warming", you should demand more deforestation in that region. :)

Btw, Amazon rain-forest grew after climate change 2,000 years ago. The southern part of the jungle did not existed before. Same in Japan - most of the climate was steppe without trees.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-environment-amazon-idUSKBN0FD00N20140708

>>128752455

> significant

HAAHHAHAHAHA

> hmm yes I guess 20% is a significant enough amount to be considered significant

They dont even ask "do you think 50% of warming is anthroprogrenic"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>128753663

based true graph poster

accept no 'adjustments'

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>>128746234
w-we're going to have another big dip like in the 1940's, right?

>>128746234
fucking hate when retard liberals justify utterly asinine political motions with "AT LEAST IT WAS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION"

>>128780979
I didn't say that nature isn't the biggest contributor.
>>128781331
Amazon is absorbing CO2

>>128772958
u got a link to the late 1990s modelers?

>>128782133
> plants absorb Co2

Typically they emit half of what they absorb although this varies from the type of plant. Ofcourse all plants die and when they die all the Co2 they absorbed over their lifetime gets released anyway so plants don't do shit when it comes to Co2

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>>128748188
>unironically using a chart from 65 millions years ago

This is literally around the time the great extinction event happened that wiped out all the dinosaurs.

>>128772958
>* There is no data to suggest a +H2O feedback either now or in Earth's past.
Took one second
https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v349/n6309/abs/349500a0.html

>>128757375
They still are, apparently.

>>128783134
Amazon forests use to a quarter of CO2 that is absorbed by land by the land. climate change caused droughts and dead tree a releasing CO2 now. more dead tree diffidently is not the solution, dead Chinks is.

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>>128782133
>Amazon is absorbing CO2

True. But it depends on the season. Dry season -> it releases more CO2, as the compost and biological decomposition is releasing more. It depends of El Nino too.

But anyway, this is not about carbon. If CO2 is your problem, then dumping iron in the ocean could be a much better solution (it will be stored as algae and in volume of fish).

Most people don't understand this at all. This is not about CO2. It's about pollution. CO2 is one thing - pollution is another. You cannot see CO2, or smell it - articles using pictures with smog over the cities are not about CO2. It's just a scare tactic. If you are concerned about CO2 levels you could move factories outside any city and not be a problem at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jul/18/iron-sea-carbon

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fertilizing-ocean-with-iron-sequesters-co2/

>>128784069
Here's the archive

>https://theguardian com/environment/2012/jul/18/iron-sea-carbon
https://archive.is/G8zyl

>>128784069
I'm not some libtard amerfat, I don't support stupid shit like carbon tax, stop talking to me like I am. let's dump iron along with killing chinks, kill niggers too they breathe too much.
CO2 is causing temperature rise, overall pollution is a problem too.

>>128783957
Dead chinks release Co2 as well. Most of the plant life in the amazon is hidden under the canopy and typically does far less photosynthesis because it gets a lot less sunlight but emits more co2 for the same reason. The typical argument is that plants release oxygen for the red and that the rainforest is the lungs of the world although that is also bullshit it pretty much consumes all the oxygen it produces

>>128771775
Thunderfoot is a chemist, so barely a scientist. He does not understand real science or mathematics.

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>>128785081
Body of the chink does, action of the chinks won't do.
no the tree are not hidden, amazon absorbs more than it releases

>>128778242
Most bulked in with "climate scientists" are not even real scientists. They are sociologists or queer theorists who write papers like "implications of climate change in post-Foucault fist fucking leather daddy culture." That is where "the scientific consensus" lies. Where are the skeptics primarily grouped? Atmospheric physics, computational physics, fluid dynamics, etc. In other words, real science.

>>128746234
denounce Trump supporters for using only time spans who agree with your opinion.
>use a limited time spans until 1900 to manipulate the perception

>claim to be scientific
>do not name the source or method for the data collection

>>128779714
No.

>>128746234
The climate is changing.
New York is still above water.
Florida still exists.
California isn't flooding.

Just because temperature is changing doesn't mean all these doomsday hypothesis are true.
It also doesn't mean the US should just throw billions of dollars aware and impair their economy so third world countries can compete.

>>128746234
>1920
Every time.

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>>128785594
Climate change is good for genocide.

If the temperature rises as predicted there will be massive food and water scarcity in the global south while the global north will have a monopoly on food and water. We will literally be able to dictate to the niggers that they must take the sterilization pill in exchange for food shipments

>>128785121
Kek but true

>>128746234

What is up with that 1940's peak? 40 years before it hits that again. Large fluctuation.

I am for renewables and divesting from oil and using less wasteful packaging and believe in anthropogenic climate change.

Paying blackmail money to some dictators while going on a MASSIVE scapegoating and demoralization campaign on the west is not what i would do.

>>128786385
Disadvantages out-weight advantages. food production is going get more negatively impacted by other factors.

Eurocucks are going to take niggers, give them their food and suck their cocks instead anyway.

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>>128746234

Meanwhile, at the South Pole..

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>>128746234
Still not getting your climate science funding back lol

>>128786385
oh brother......china fucking wants climate change lol

>>128786385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNgqv4yVyDw

>>128746234
Dude it is impossible to get BTFOd by someone who no one knows who the fuck they are

>>128787039
On the contrary, climate change will turn the third world into an uninhabitable desert with their current levels of population. Think of the political shitstorm in Europe with just one million refugees now imagine that the threat is 100 million Eastern Europe doesn't accept them today they are laying down mines barbed wire and machine gun nests right now and imagine once the shit becomes real even Western Europe will go full Hitler

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>>128746234

>>128787027
>What is up with that 1940's peak?

hmmm sweetie, ever heard of the holocaust? ovens are hot y'know?

>>128751230
>Dont question it goy
>The sun revolves around the Earth goy 99% of royal scientists agree

>>128746234
>thunderf00t
>>128746400
checked
/thread

>>128746400
I like how they are using ukraine and leaf flags now

>>128746234
Don't give a shit. Paris Agreement was straight up trash.

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>>128787937
if it starts reversing I'm all for it, I don't want to watch niggers die from underwater. also you are a fucking leaf, it's comfy for you, how is it for me can't stand hot weather I'm already dying at 27c here, I can't breath and have no energy, I'm not even fat.

>>128787945
pic

>>128787937
> imagine that the threat is 100 million - Eastern Europe doesn't accept them today they are laying down mines barbed wire and machine gun nests right now and imagine once the shit becomes real even Western Europe will go full Hitler


The moslems will go to Canada, because your Trudeau will welcome them with a feminist burka on his head and open arms.

>>128787945
Post link asap anon

>>128765417
they take the data from 2 different sources.
Data from ice caped show 2°C lower Temperature than other methodes

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>>128788707

Here's the link from NASA!!

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_15/

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I will just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY4Yecsx_-s

>>128746234
>damaging the planet
>sealing the permanent extinction of your people
Hmmmmm, hard choice.

>>128749308
Yeah because we started programs to replant our forests. Sure CO2 had somewhat a beneficial impact in that respect, but I am not sure if that's a worthwhile price to pay in exchange for flooding in a shitone of cities.

>>128746400
Science is almost sure that its man made. more than 95% of scientists say so. even if there is the possibility that it is not, we should still try to stop it, as the risk is just too high. i personally do not care. Switzerland will be safe for a long time.

>>128785923
didn't you hear what he said?
>in human history
>humans started exiting 115 year ago
>"science"

>>128790983
He said recorded.

>>128790620
Science is not a popularity contest.
None of their models came true.
I've started to take EU cosmology pill and those guys wrek mainstream climatologists, who clearly don't know what they're doing.

>>128790983
yeah he's dumb to do that. earth was obviously warming and cooling a lot of times. whats however important is that now it is heating up WAY faster than it ever did. check the data if you really want to know the truth. do it for yourself. ignore all other voices. if you want to be sure about it, then check that statement ive made. there are literally thousands of studies that show this.

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>>128784405
>CO2 is causing temperature rise, overall pollution is a problem too.

As we can see above, carbon dioxide absorbs infrared radiation (IR) in only three narrow bands of frequencies, which correspond to wavelengths of 2.7, 4.3 and 15 micrometers (µm), respectively. The percentage absorption of all three lines combined can be very generously estimated at about 8% of the whole IR spectrum, which means that 92% of the "heat" passes right through without being absorbed by CO2.

To give you a feeling for how little CO2 there actually is in the atmosphere, let's magnify the picture by a factor of 10 million, so that we can imagine a CO2 molecule as a 20 mm diameter marble floating in the air. However, CO2 makes up only 380 of each million molecules of air – the rest are a mixture of all the other atmospheric gases and water vapor – i.e. only one in every 2632 molecules is a CO2 molecule. Let’s imagine that all the other molecules are colored blue, and CO2 molecules are colored red. All the marbles making up our model atmosphere are equispaced at 280 mm apart. When mixed evenly into our model atmosphere (which is what the wind does) a bit more simple math shows that our red marbles are equispaced at 3900 mm (i.e. 3.9 meters) apart. In the real atmosphere, at a height of approx. 5500 meters, pressure is halved from what it is at sea level. A bit more simple math shows that at a height of 5500 meters (55 million kilometers in our model – that’s 143 times the distance from earth to the moon!), our 20 mm diameter CO2 marbles are equispaced at 4.9 meters apart. Now you know why CO2 is called a “trace” gas.

http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

>>128746234
>1998 climate change stopped

>>128791539
8% would make an enormous difference. Hell 1% would make an enormous difference.

>>128791539
all you say is true, but do you know what a positive feedback loop is?

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>>128789031
>The paleoclimate record makes it clear that a target to keep human made global warming less than 2°C, as proposed in some international discussions, is not sufficient — it is a prescription for disaster. Assessment of the dangerous level of CO2, and the dangerous level of warming, is made difficult by the inertia of the climate system. The inertia, especially of the ocean and ice sheets, allows us to introduce powerful climate forcings such as atmospheric CO2 with only moderate initial response. But that inertia is not our friend — it means that we are building in changes for future generations that will be difficult, if not impossible, to avoid.

You people really are fucking stupid, stupid enough to post links that disprove your arguments!

>>128791539
your arguments are based on a false assumption that if the number seems small in human minds then it can't have much of an effect, we are talking about whole planet here, even little numbers matter.

If not CO2, then what is casing the warming?

>>128792015
Don't forget the reflected light originating in the sun. And if were absorbing 8% of the light then earth becomes hell. 8% is fucking a lot bro.

>>128764374
Space niggers

>>128792460
8% of IR spectrum.

Earth reflects not just IR.
Not to mention that IR is less energetic than visible or UV, which is what the main heat from the sun is.

>>128792188
>"The killer proof that CO2 does not drive climate is to be found during the Ordovician- Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods when CO2 levels were greater than 4000 ppmv (parts per million by volume) and about 2000 ppmv respectively. If the IPCC theory is correct there should have been runaway greenhouse induced global warming during these periods but instead there was glaciation."

>>128793866
But science was shit back then.. how could they have accurately measured the co2 levels?

>>128746400
fpbp

>>128746234
climate change is real, man contributes significantly, and I don't care, and I'm not paying your hydrocarbon taxes, so fuck off.

Why is Venus hotter than Mercury despite Mercury being closer to the Sun?