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Agnostic fag here
I'm looking for a religion and have decided to go with Christianity.

My question is what sect should I align with? I'm leaning catholic but want the most pilled one.
>inb4 pagan cucks
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pagan cucks
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>>128690605
Christian Identity. Don't be a dumbshit and bomb stuff though.
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The Orthodox Church was founded by Jesus Christ in Jerusalem circa 33 Ad. It is still under the same management.
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>>128690605
Baptist. look up "sanderson1611" on youtube and watch his vids.

or atleast protestant

or read the buble and choose yourself
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>>128690974
no it wasn't

and don't catholics say it was theirs to
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Catholic or Orthodox
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>>128691080
and they aren't anything like they used to be
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>>128691080
I think Catholics and orthodox where once one in the same however they split do to disagreements on certain issues so yes I think both could claim it was theirs who was founded first because they where both one at a time.
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>>128690605
Catholic is good. Check out "Defeat Modernism" on Youtube for the best Defender of traditional Catholicism on the net. Pagans BTFO.
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>>128691141
Epheians 2:8-9
Romans 4
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>>128690605
Become a Mormon. You'll love it.
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>>128690605

REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


Mossad, the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.
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>>128690605
You could also visit the local churches in your area and choose which one you like best. My personal advice is to not waste your time at liberal proddy churches or Pentecostal ones. If you live in a city area this might be a little too time consuming, hope I could help.
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>>128690605
>I'm leaning catholic
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>>128691246
Steven Anderson is much better
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>>128690605
>I'm looking for a religion and have decided to go with Christianity.

Us. If you wish to know the truth about God, the truth about the world, and the truth about the future that is about to come then go with us. We are clear, concise, direct, and simple to understand. We will give you a free Bible study. Go to our website JW.ORG and search for

>https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/

At the very bottom. We will give you a free Bible study and help you to use and understand the Bible. In the mean time, AMA.
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>>128691317
Or you could visit the pentecostal churches for a good laugh
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>>128690605
>I'm leaning catholic

REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


Mossad, the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies
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>>128690605
Check out the Catholic answers YouTube channel and website. They have lots of great learning material. Any question you have they've already answered it.

https://www.youtube.com/user/catholiccom
https://www.catholic.com/
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>>128690605
Eastern Orthodoxy
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>>128691301
>>128691301
>ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley)

I think you mean Thelema. You're gonna have to fix your copy/paste. Don't get me wrong I appreciate your post. It is all true, I don't deny it. It would be better though if you started your own thread. I don't think anyone starts these thread because of Catholicism, Orthodoxy though. Some are sincere.
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>>128691485
tell me about bohemian grove
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>>128691456

OP don't listen to this heretic. They're a cult you can even look up some of the crazy stuff JW's are known for. IMHO either catholic or a red pilled nondenominational church. But if you're gonna be catholic please be a reverent one not the fake Catholics who only do it because tradition.
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>>128691729
A jews posts those. Cut out 2/3's of people who call themselves Christian? Really forces one to cogitate.
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>>128690605
Orthodox is the best.
Protestantism got made up in 1500 so king Henry could kill his wives.
Catholicism is idolatry.
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After this, you'll convert... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjGPHF5A6Po
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Proper Religion: broad scope Nicene Christianity. Style of prayer really doesn't matter, and its best to simply follow in the footsteps of Constantine
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>>128690605
try islam, I hear its the bomb
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>>128691824
Grandmother forced me to go to kingdom hall.
By far the most pessimistic sect.
>The world is ending
>Don't bother with school
>Say no to relationships
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>>128691903
This. Catholics fell for Satan's third temptation at the garden of Gethsemane, and protestants aren't even in a church. It's more like glorified bible study--which is okay, as long as you eventually become part of the body of Christ in Orthodoxy.
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>>128691485
I am Catholic and am known at my Campus for being the biggest Nationalist and Anti Commie in the town
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>>128690605
>amerinigger
>thinks he's white and could ever be pagan
kek you niggers
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Paganism
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Roman Catholicism
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Anglican.
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Lul Pope Francis is a huge cuck, idk why anyone would be catholic at this point
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>>128692139
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>I'm looking for a religion and have decided to go with Christianity.
Why? I'm genuinely curious.

the main things that confuse me are:
A: it's a non-white cult so I can't understand a white man worshiping a non-white deity.(Since all deities lack evidence equally)
B: Yahweh seems like the least believable deity on the planet, his cult is just a clusterfuck.
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>>128690605

Gnostic / St John of the Cross / Meister Eckhart
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>>128690605
Orthodox Christianity. The original faith.
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>>128690605
Evangelical Protestant. Catholics, Orthodox, and Mainline Protestants are all liberal cucks.
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>>128691824
>(Psalm 35:16) Among the apostate mockers for a cake There was a grinding of their teeth even against me.

>(Matthew 5:11) “Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake.

>(Acts 2:13) However, different ones mocked at them and began to say: “They are full of sweet wine.”

>(Jude 17, 18) As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18how they used to say to YOU: “In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things.”
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>>128691382
All you need to know about that faggot right here:
https://youtu.be/WVMZUgmrJrk?t=75
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>>128692361
My Brother.
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>>128692107
>European
>Current year
>White
Reminder that we will always be superior.
What the fuck are you known for anyway? Chocolate? Literally European Canada.
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>>128690605
This might seem like a bit of a cop-out, but I would just believe in it. Don't choose one of the 9 million slightly-different groups, just believe in Jesus and what you interpret from the Bible. Just my way of doing things, and I don't run into any unnecessary disagreements.
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>>128692468
>Brothers Karamazov.
My favorite book too. You really are my brother ;)
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being a christian is about believing in christ

catholics go to hell they never got born again

The Bible Way to Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY
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orthodox
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>>128691246
>Catholic is good
Yes they are heavy into pedophilia stuff and homo as well
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>>128691903
>idolatry
there is a difference between veneration and worship and it's a clear line drawn between what Catholics do when they praise God and ask saints for their intercession
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>>128691546 is a strawman samefag to prove >>128691485 right
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>>128690605
Catholic or Orthodox. Protestants are omay but most of them are just cultish. Their whole movement was based on reforming the Catholic Chruch, but it didnt happen quick enough so they left, then the Catholic Church reformed anyway and then the protestants just went crazier and crazier over the years.
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>>128690605
Also, Interesting thing about Catholicism. It's univeral, and fits well with cultures that have multiple gods due to Catholics having priest. That's why in places like the Carribien and South America they have a lot of saints involved in their religion. It's because some of the saints matched up with their gods and so it was an easy switch.
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>>128690605
Lutheran
/thread
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>>128693072
That's because it started with pagan roman temples getting a quick Christian facelift
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You can only take the restore the Empire decision if you covert to Catholciism first.
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>>128690605
Most pilled is Orthodoxy. Am soon to be catachumen.
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>>128690605
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>>128690605
If you're going to go Christian, you may as well go all out and be a Mormon. The only thing that really sucks about it is you're not supposed to drink.
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>>128693301
Jesus and Mary, not Jesus and Martin/Calvin/InsertYourFaggotFounder'sNameHere

Faggot.
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>>128692364
That's not so true. Catholics in the south are overwhelmingly Conservative, same for the others. It just depends on where you are
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>>128692382

ok false prophet, you're accusatory language isn't Christlike in the slightest. No grinding of teeth, just warning OP about your cult, seriously come to the light, accept the trinity, and get out of that demonically oppressed cult that is JW. The spirits of Jezabel and Control, the pharisees and religion run deep in JW. Faith by works and fear, not from love of the Father nor his good will for our lives.
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>>128693527
LSD still on the table?
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>>128690605
I'm in the process of converting to Eastern Orthodoxy, you should look into it
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>>128690992
I lost complete and total respect for him after his Hindu video. the man needs to read his old testament. reincarnation is real.
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>>128691244
Schism of 1054 AD. Charlamange and the filioque. Its not a big pain to learn about, and Orthodoxy to me makes more sense. Rome be the heretics.
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>>128693609


It took only one day for all of this destruction and death to transpire. Of the 30,000 citizens, only 5,000 survived, most of them had fled into Magdeburg Cathedral. Tilly finally ordered an end to the looting on May 24, and a Catholic mass was celebrated at the Cathedral on the next day. For another fourteen days, charred bodies were carried to the Elbe River to be dumped to prevent disease. In a letter, Pappenheim wrote of the Sack:

I believe that over twenty thousand souls were lost. It is certain that no more terrible work and divine punishment has been seen since the Destruction of Jerusalem. All of our soldiers became rich. God with us.
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>>128690605
catholic is the most organized, the only church with any real power.

It's also the original church.

And the 2nd least cuck behind orthadox, every other domination besides these 2 is literally sjw or backwards retard crap.
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>>128690605
You don't actually believe this stuff do you anon?
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>>128693567
How about just Jesus, and not 7,000 droning Hail Mary's and bowing to statues?
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Pray to the Lord and I know he will guide you, anon. The orthodox churches all are good. Mainline protestants, the varying Orthodox/Catholic rites are all good and have good believers in them. Any that preach of salvation through the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit.
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>>128690605
orthodox. the only truly uncucked, traditional religion out there.
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>>128693750
Who founded your church?
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>>128691301
Russia isnt communist anymore, shoot, America is more communist than Russia now.
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>>128692462
I bet those dogs smelled VITAMIN K
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>>128690605
read the bible
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>>128693832
...Christ?
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>>128690605
>>128690605
I grew up Roman Catholic. I basically only ever attended mass was when my school would have mass. I'm not publicly religious, but I still believe in God and being a good person. From my experience the other sects make it seem like you MUST GO TO CHURCH or you'll be a cuck in hell.

>>128692502
also, this doesn't seem like a bad idea to start off with and make your own opinion.
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Us Trad Catholics are pushingback though. Cardinal Sarah is becoming a favourite for the papacy and he is one of the most anti-immigration guys out there.
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>>128691456
don't listen to this fucking heathen, go Catholic or Orthodox
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Biggest differences to understand between Orthodoxy/Catholics and protestants is that protestants take the bible literal word for word. They can generally recite shit front to back and they always mean it Literally. Where as Catholics, they use the bible simply as a tool for worship. They still read it, but they wont go reciting front to back as much, and they dont take it as literal. They look at the message behind the stories. Also important to understand that there are some christians who believe the old testament should still be followed, or others like me who beleive that when Jesus died giving us a new covenant and there fore we only folllow the new testament. Just read into it ourself and go with which ever one suits you I guess. Talk to people from both and study it yourself to make that decision. Religion is more of a individual thing of teaching yourself how to behave in our world.
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Do you autists realize that your constant bickering drives people away from Christianity as a whole. This is one of the reasons I'm taking a sabbatical from church and Christians right now, the arrogance is just overwhelming (Talking about my community not /pol/, but threads like these also do not help). I thought God opposed the proud but gave grace to the humble
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>>128690605
Catholic or Orthodox. Both started by Saint Peter. The misconception with both was that there was a centralized Christian church before Rome let there be. Before Rome let there be, it spread by word of mouth, which caused the Catholic/Orthodox split. desu both are valid.

I'd go with Catholic though. Much bigger. Or at least go with one that has apostolic lineage. Any others are just faking.
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>>128690605
The Catholic church seems pretty okay with molesting children. You really want to be associated with that? If you want old school, go Eastern Orthodox. If you want new school, it's just a matter of trying them on for size.

Considering your background and probable life style, might want to avoid Baptists - especially Southern or Primitive Baptists.

Your best bet is finding a good non-denominational church. The kind that approves of wearing jeans to church and sings Christian rock during service instead of the old hymns. They place more focus on reading the Bible and doing community service than worrying about a person's tattoos or if someone's kids went dancing (baptists....)
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>>128691261
I know im a christian, and haven't picked a denomination and i've always fallen towards protestant, but how do you feel about James 2:14-26?
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>>128691903
>Catholicism is idolatry

t. someone who know jack shit about the catholic rite
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>>128692294
This, but attach to a (((real))) tradition otherwise you lose the community aspect.
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>>128691456
Fuck off, take it from a former JW, they're not worth the trouble. They're like the business version of Christianity. It's a doomsday cult.
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>>128691272
You guys still wearing magic underwear and baptizing the dead in giant cow cauldrons? Thought so.
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>>128690605
>I'm looking for a religion and have decided to go with Christianity.

y tho?
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>>128692139
We need another Pius, I'm catholic and I hate that bastard with passion, he is destroying my church with his liberal bullshit

also he shouldn't even be the Pope according to his Jesuit vows...
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>>128693900
>AYAEEEAAAEEEEEEEEGHHHHHRHHHEH
what did he mean by this
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>>128694371
>Sweden
Fuck off ahmed.
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>>128690605
Go with Judaism, or at least the Noachide.
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>>128690605
Can you share your journey on how you come from Agnosticism to Christianity specifically?

-To the other anons what do you think of the ESV bible?

-To Catholics and Orthodox what are your thoughts on the KJV bible?
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>>128694371
Fuck off with your modernist bullshit
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>>128692382
Luke 21:8 And He said, "See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not go after them.

Sounds familiar. Jehovah's Witnesses claim that the end is near, their whole history is wrought with fake end of world predictions.
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>>128694490
Blacked.com is an American site.
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>>128691903
Pick up a history book, Dingo. The Protestant Reformation was started by a German Catholic priest named Martin Luther who thought the selling of indulgences was a corrupt practice.
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>>128694582
>>128694490
Do you really not see a problem with picking a religion off the shelf devoid of faith?
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>>128693072
the caribbean mumbo jumbo is just voodo fucks using catholic and christians symbols to practice their bullshit without them having to burn at the stake back in the colonial times
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>>128690605
Why would you believe in polytheism with three Gods? Just go for paganism instead.

>Believing in a dead Jew on a stick

Blue-pilled as fuck.
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>>128694182
not him but it seems to be talking about fake faith more than anything
like a guy is convinced by Pascal's Wager and says "Jesus Save Me" but doesn't actually understand who Jesus is, what He wants, or that he has sins he needs pardoned
y'know, a true believer will actually try to do good things, you will know them by their fruits, don't just sin sin sin and try for a deathbed conversion sort of thing
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>>128694641
Many of the protestant churches if not most are not luteran or luteran based though.
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>>128694566
KJV is heresy. The Bible is the word of God and not to be tampered with.

>inb4 A COUNCIL MADE IT

Yeah, based on a certain set of parameters. All of the New Testament was written by apostles or their apprentices. Certain books were thrown out because they didn't jive with the rest of the Bible and they were written by people who weren't part of that in-group.
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>>128690605
Protestant is comfy
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>>128694708
I do, but if the guy is truly faithful and wants to learn more, why not?
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>>128694717
One god in three forms.

Yeah, you're 3 people because you have a personality for home, a personality for work, and a personality for friends and family. That makes you 3 different people.
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>>128693595
no
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>>128691272
Mormons only group in America keeping it white by pushing out babies
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>>128694149
Honestly, where I am from it i generally the Baptist who try and start stuff with the Catholics. I'm non-denom myself, I witnessed a Baptist friend of mine yelling one day at our Catholic friend simply because the Catholic friend said that the Church didnt have a bible until later, that at first it was all tradition, (the argument was that Why do Catholics have all the tradition, why not just go by what is in the bible) the Baptist friend just wanted to show the Catholic that he was of the better. In all it really doesnt matter, I just think people need to understand the differences. Most of it springs from ignorance of them. I hope youre not leaving your faith though. Regardless if what you think of the denominations, that shouldnt effect your relationship and beliefs with God.
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>>128690605
The one holy catholic apostolic church
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>>128693593
>>128694106
>“The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299.

>“The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”— The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299

>“The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are Greek philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—John L. McKenzie, S.J., Dictionary of the Bible (New York, 1965), p. 899.

John L. McKenzie is a Jesuit Catholic Scholar and his book, Dictionary of the Bible, is considered imprimatur.

It's pretty well established that the Trinity is not Biblical to the point that non-JW Churches admit this.
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>>128690605
baptist or if you want to be more mainstream protestant
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>>128694756
Just pointing out that the Original KJV has the apocyrpha in it and you can still buy them with it.

Does that change your position on it?
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>>128690605
Can't go wrong with Protestants. Catholics are submissive to their cuck master. Protestants built the US. Protestant thought was a central reason for manifest destiny. Protestants put the prairie niggers on reservations.
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>>128695061
Didnt Jesus found a church not write a book though?
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>>128694952
>It's pretty well established that the Trinity is not Biblical to the point that non-JW Churches admit this.
Implying catholics/orthodox believe in the Sola Scriptura doctrine.
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>>128694952
Just to warn everybody, and I'm not really going to get into an argument because I'm very rusty on this shit, but Jehovah's Witnesses are really good at finagling things to fit their parameters. Just remember that it has as much validity as Mormonism, eg. some dude claimed that Jesus changed his mind on things, and even though there's no proof other than his word, he got lucky and a religion was formed. For this guy, he got lucky that WWI started when he said the world was going to end. So, to a lot of people, it seemed that it was.
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>>128694911
GREAT point
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>>128694264
Family is Catholic, so I do know jack shit about the catholic rite. The reason I am no longer Catholic? Many fold, but one is the realization that praying to statues of dead humans instead of to Jesus was a huge mistake.

Catholics are idolators. End of story.
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>>128693636
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment"
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>>128695333
>Implying there is no difference between Latria and Dulia
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>>128695277
yea except the part where mormonism is sick and a false religion so it cancel whatever good you think they do

Think about your soul before thinking about your race because it won't matter much when you're dead
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>>128690605
Im a catholic.
You find decent folk all around in catholic churches.
The pope is a jesuit so it's normal he says "refugees welcome" at some level.
Catholics in general tend to be redpilled.
My city just organized a marg against abortion, literally over 700.000 thousand catholics showed up (city has a population of 2 million)
We tend to reject most kind lf shit like trannies, gays, and so on.
I also graduated from a catholic school, know dozens of girls who are /pol/'s archetype (devoted Christian, virgin, gay/trannie hating) at least this is the state lf the catholic church here in my country.

I've seen more and more of orthodox Christianity recently, they seem to be the most based of them all, and have a lot of common with catholics, but tend to be more based in general.
I legit think Europe's last chance of surviving all this is by converting to orthodoxy.
There's an orthodox church in my city and unironically have thought of going/converting, but it's simply tol far from my house to regularly attend.
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>>128690605
Stay agnostic religion is for fagz
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>>128694743
True. But the Church of England is remarkably similar to Lutheranism. Also, Henry would never have had the balls to start his own church is Luther had not set a precedent.
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>>128690605
Orthodox or Catholic. You want something that has long standing traditions and hierarchy. Older branches of Protestantism might also work. Stay away from anything that tries to brand itself as cool or in with the youth crowd.
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>>128694584
Any so-called Christian organization the refuses to use God's name, believes in the Trinity, gets involved in politics, and doesn't follow the command of Christ to preach the Good News of God's Kingdom door-to-door, country-to-country, and person-to-person is not Christian at all.

>(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling YOU any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching YOU publicly and from house to house.

>(Acts 5:42) And every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus.

>(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

>(Matthew 28:19) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

>(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.

>(Romans 10:18) Nevertheless I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in fact, “into all the earth their sound went out, and to the extremities of the inhabited earth their utterances.”

I don't see you guys following the commandment and example of Christ and his apostles to go door to door and preach the Good News of God's Kingdom and make disciples. If you are the true Christianity you're welcome to step up and demonstrate it with your works.

>(Mark 7:6) He said to them: “Isaiah aptly prophesied about YOU hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honor me with [their] lips, but their hearts are far removed from me.

>(Matthew 15:8) ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me.
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Old, hardline Catholicism is what built Western Civilization. It is patriarchy at its noblest: kind and compassionate to men of good will; high art and grand architecture; and a rugged blend of the meaningful, the intellectual, the physical, and the mystical. Aquinas. Becket. More. Augustine. Jerome. Urban II. Wojtyla. Buchanan.

But to its enemies that threaten its existence: crusades, inquisitions, exorcisms, and excommunications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnxJyEF4qLE
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>>128695260
Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are both bullshit. JW's Watchtower overlords have been making failed predictions of the end times since their founder, all the way up until the 70's. The Book of Mormon is a historically inaccurate clusterfuck, and Joseph Smith also made failed prophecy.
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>>128695527
You are correct on that, but let's be honest, he is the only one who did it with interests other than reforming the church.
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>>128690605
>>128695517

>The pope is a jesuit so it's normal he says "refugees welcome" at some level

Forgot to add, while the pope says that, most people don't accept that, and don't want muslims living amongst them.
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>>128690605
read the bible and listen to talk radio
it's the best you can hope for, western churches outside of extreme rural south are mostly infiltrated
cruz's campaign mostly confirmed this
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>>128695333
Not a Catholic (or a Christian) but as I understand it, aren't you more or less asking the saints to put in a good word for you with Jesus rather than bothering the man himself?
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>>128695333
You must not understand that the Saints dont actually answer the prayers, they simply give them to the big guy. I wouldnt be suprised if you were lying about being Catholic because I dont see how you wouldnt know this.
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>>128695582
Shut the fuck up, nobody likes you, and your numbers are dwindling because you're a cult.

>>128695607
I know, it's disgusting.
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>>128695516
Didn't mean it makes Mormonism true
Just identified a redeeming quality
God=good
Perpetuity of the white race=also good
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>>128695517
So you've been molested
Got it
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>>128695690
This guy knows what's up.
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>>128695100
This is fact. I own one. The apocrypha was not even removed until the 1800s anyway. For 200 years the KJV was just another really good translation.

Catholics act like there was ever only one version before King James came along and started a trend. Not true.
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>>128695582
>I don't see you guys following the commandment and example of Christ and his apostles to go door to door and preach the Good News of God's Kingdom and make disciples. If you are the true Christianity you're welcome to step up and demonstrate it with your works.
We have hospitals, Schools, fosterhomes, we even have incredibly large international aid campaigns. That enough?
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>>128695529
Orthodox and Catholic are idol worshippers and are for feeble minded fools who rely on intercession to communicate with the almighty. Protestantism is the way to go. Agree on the edge lord cuck sects tho
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Being religious to me is almost as bad as being an SJW. U overly religious fags are an embarassment.
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>>128691729
>It would be better though if you started your own thread.
What is shadow anchoring...

>>128691806
>tell me about bohemian grove
Fags who larp and preform a ceremony to remove guilt. It's a play based on something stupid, a sort of joke play.

Anyways, fags (like the pedos of today) are always used by criminal sects (Jews) to take over a nation. See Eunuchs of China and Catholic church.

>>128692090
>I am Catholic and am known at my Campus for being the biggest Nationalist and Anti Commie in the town
You will never rise in power.
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>>128694952
>>128695206
>“The Jews never regarded the spirit as a person; nor is there any solid evidence that any Old Testament writer held this view. . . . The Holy Spirit is usually presented in the Synoptics [Gospels] and in Acts as a divine force or power.” – Edmund Fortman, Catholic Theologian, The Triune God, (1972)

>“The Old Testament . . . tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. . . . There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead. . . . Even to see in [the “Old Testament”] suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers.” - Edmund Fortman, Catholic Theologian, The Triune God, (1972)

>“The Creeds of that early day make no mention . . . of the [Trinity] at all. They make mention indeed of a Three; but that there is any mystery in the doctrine, that the Three are One, that They are coequal, coeternal, all increate, all omnipotent, all incomprehensible, is not stated, and never could be gathered from them.” An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, by John Henry Cardinal Newman, Sixth Edition, 1989, pages 14-18.

We don't believe it because even your own scholars admit it is not true.
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>>128695590
Built Europe, which is a shithole
Protestantism built US
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>>128691661
Protestant if your feeling super reiligious (Baptists, JW, Anglican etc).

Catholic if your feeling like half assing it.

Orthodox if you also want to convert ethnicity and learn a new language.
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run down
mormom's are psychotics that believe they're the new jews and missouri was their jerusalem until they got kicked out
JW's are shitty mormons
catholics are reinvented pagans from the roman pantheon using religion to further luciferian causes and waiting for the return of their king
just read the bible yourself
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>>128690605
Be a hipster and go Nasrani.
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>>128695664
Right. Intercession is for cucked slaves
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>>128695854
Again, doesn't know the difference between latria and Dulia.
This is why most catholics and orthodox don't really like evangelicals.
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Praise kek
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>>128695892
they aren't though, and if they are they aren't our scholars.
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>>128696003
Asking favours is for slaves now?
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>>128696017
Just excuses to "venerate/adore" (worship) saints (idols). It is idolatry no matter how you slice it.
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>>128691301
>paid Catholic shills
I wish.
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>>128696017
This is why there is so much fighting between Catholics and Protestants, they simply don't understand the differences nor respect them.
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>>128695853
>We have hospitals, Schools,

You charge money for those services?

>(Matthew 10:8) Cure sick people, raise up dead persons, make lepers clean, expel demons. YOU RECEIVED FREE, GIVE FREE

>fosterhomes,

Pizzagate

>we even have incredibly large international aid campaigns.

Money laundering

>That enough?

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 14And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.
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>>128696230
I'm nerves soon of the saints = an idol playing "middle man" between you and god
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Why are you fags fighting abt which fairly tale implemented to control people is the best.?
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>>128695892
It's funny, we don't need to dredge up quotes or biblical passages to debate you because your entire religion is based off of lies and has absolutely zero connection to Jesus Christ. At least mormons try to fake it.

>>128696272
I know, right? Hey, Vatican, where's my fucking money?
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>>128696300
I respect Catholics. Just think they're wrong. They have every right to be Catholic
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>>128696231
There is a huge difference between the two though.
Notice we never ever revere a statue or representation of the Father.
They aren't God, they aren't nearly as powerful as God, we only ask for intercession.
Even my bluepilled feminist normie cousin knows that.
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>>128694027
What we really need is an African pope.
All the fire and brimstone of a proper Catholic with none of the infamy from leftist media to go with it.
It's flawless.
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>>128696402
*intercession
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>>128696499
It's a legit argument which is why it's been made for so long, but praying to saints, Mary etc. seems like idol worship. Who not pray to the father?
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>>128690605
Stick with Catholicism. Their churches are prettier anyways.
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>>128696427
Yeah, I hate it when they want something that's fairly a tale, but not quite, to control people. Goddamn those fairly tales.

>>128696402
You're not forced to ask saints to pray for you. Just don't do it, I rarely do.

>>128696303
Also, tripfagging on /pol/? Shit's like writing your name on a nametag. Blow it out your ass when the minister says it's alright.
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>>128696682
Fair, but all the reverence and adoration for saints still seems idolatrous to me and my Protestant sensibilities
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>>128696303
If they are in dire need? No, and most of the time only so we can maintain the structure of the place and keep it well supplied.
Besides, how the fuck do you charge kids in fosterhomes? Those are kept exclusively by donations and voluntary work to which I once took part and could see that the children weren't being mistreated.
Besides, there are also rehab farms for addicts that have saved lives including some close family friends.
"Money laundering" you know jack shit about catholicism
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>>128695928
I'm good with the Puritans and Amish. Europe is indeed a hellhole today. It coincided with the decline of Church influence and the rise of the moneychangers. But newsflash, the US is on its way. Middle America is all that's keeping us afloat.
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>>128690605
Fuck religion. Make your own damn religion you fuckin thief.
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>>128696682
Religions for the most part were just made to make people behave civilized by making up stories of higher powers that do not exsist. Prove me wrong.
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>>128696461
Praying to a Saint is not worshipping though. They are simply their to be a mediator if you choose. There is no requirement that you must pray to them. Hell id be surprised if Catholics could name the different Saints. Saints are simply people who did what Christ taught exactly and went straight to heaven for it. For that they are highly respected and that is all it is. There are no masses held for saints, Catholics just view them as an example of how the should follow Christ. Im sure Catholics view protestants at being wrong as well.
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>>128690605
Seventh Day Adventist or Orthodox.
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>>128690605
The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
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>>128695664
that's pretty much what we do,and with the Blessed Virgin Mary it's pretty much the same as going to your mom first instead of your dad
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>>128696923
Even Peak Europe was too collectivist
But you're right about the increasing degeneracy in US. Middle America needs a serious cultural revolution that should start in the churches. Return to faith and heritage
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>>128696661
We do that too. Asking for intercession is the same as asking for someone to pray for you or your friend only that the person you're asking to has already achieved grace.

>>128696510
exactly
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>>128696681
they'd show up, kill everyone, steal everything of value, and build huge temples over ritual/worship sites
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>>128696819
Believe me, you're not alone. When I was going through the Catholic process, one of the dudes who was teaching us was talking about how it was the hardest thing for him to get past as a former baptist. Dude was a great guy.

>>128696879
Dude, he's a lazy Jehovah's Witness. I know he's just trying to get his "Witnessing" hours up because he thinks spewing shit over the internet counts. It doesn't, nobody cares or really ever listens. You know how awful you are to be around? Nobody who's not a Jehovah's Witness likes you because all you talk about is your phony religion.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, or better yet, put that in your gun and blow your brains out with it. Nobody wants you to be here.
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>>128690605
Orthodoxy
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>>128697061
>achieved grace.
I think St. Paul just interceded against you for that
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>>128695412
this is exactly why I don't like him, nor that one verse you cling to that can be easily be used to defend it.

yes, my flesh dies once, my soul is judged, and part of that judgement can be to get sent back to live another life

read.
your.
old.
testament
Hosea
14Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol? Shall I redeem them from death? O Death, where are your thorns? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion will be hidden from My sight.

Genesis 37:35
Then all his sons and all his daughters arose to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely I will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for him.

1 Samuel 2:6
“The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and raises up.

in the KJV it mistranslated Sheol, Hades, which are the same place, Tartarus, which is a different place, with Hell

read.
your.
old.
testament.
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>>128695686
this

think of heaven as a big office with the Big guy managing everything, the saints are in layman's terms God's secretaries so to speak
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>>128696973
Ancient Egypt was made to apease a giant purple tortoise.

Prove me wrong.

See? You can't because there's no way to figure out the motive.

>>128697141
Just to be clear, I was telling the Jehovah's Witness to neck himself, not you brazilfag, you're alright in my book.
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>>128696936
I agree
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>>128697011
We both think the other is wrong
>tfw we can live next to each other without blowing each other up (except the potato niggers)
The important point is that Christianity of any sort is a superior belief system to the vile and degenerate ideology of the mudslimes
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>>128696661
Again, there is no requirement that you must go through a saint to pray. They dont even really teach Catholics to give their prayers to saints until they are in Confirmation if at all.
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>>128697141
Yes. Jehova's witnesses can be great people, but they can be excrutiatingly annoying too.
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>>128697089
>goes to Catholic church
>most art and woodwork are done by whites
>goes to Protestant church
>blue carpet on floor
>benches made in China
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>>128697253
Ancient egypt was created by kek
Proved wrong
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>>128697354
Fucking this, m8

>>128697352
Fucking hell, I was one of those. It sucks knowing how annoying I was to be around. Nobody liked me.
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>>128697203
Went to heaven, achieved sainthood, many other ways.
Sorry if I haven't expressed myself properly and passed the wrong message, english is my second language.
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>tfw I've never wanted to put on a suicide vest and wanted to blow up Catholics
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I too am an agnostic mate, I lean a lot to Christianity, I probably will become one.

Just don't be one of those fucking peaceful 'turn the other cheek' faggots that takes shit from everyone.

Be the crusader type, defend Christianity, hate the Islamists, God with you
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>>128697505
I'm glad you got over it brother.
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>>128691244
>>128691080
>>128690974
Catholic Fag here

The schism was caused by only two, but very major issues

One is far off lands had their own pseudo popes (the patriarch of Constantinople [istanbul] {roach hive} ) and they wanted them to have more power.

The other is literally one phrase in the nicean creed.

Thats it, otherwise except for a few traditions they are the exact same

>>128690605
To the agnostic, catholism or orthadox, your choice.

All the prods acutally have autism for thinking
>sola fide or
>sola scriptura
are legitimate bases

sure there is corruption in any church, what matters is the theology and the Catholics (or orthadox, depends on that one fucking verse) have it right.
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>>128690605
Esoteric Kekism
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>>128697036
I've heard this before and really don't like the implications it has. One, it implies Mary is like a wife to God.(this is minor, I know it is just an analogy) Two, it makes Mary seem more loving than God, like she'll consider your prayers more than He. Three, it seems underhanded. Why would you ask your mother to lend you something that belongs to your father? There's no reason to avoid asking God directly unless you know He'll decline.
Asking Mary when you can ask God is like asking your friend if he'll ask out a girl for you. It's the sort of petty stuff you'd expect to see on a playground.
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>>128690605
>I'm looking for a religion and have decided to go with Christianity.
That's not how that works.
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>>128697591
I can literally thank God for that one.
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>>128696456
>>128696456
>we don't need to dredge up quotes or biblical passages to debate you

(Proverbs 3:5) Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding.

(Jeremiah 9:23) This is what Jehovah has said: “Let not the wise man brag about himself because of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man brag about himself because of his mightiness. Let not the rich man brag about himself because of his riches.”

(1 Corinthians 3:18) Let no one be seducing himself: If anyone among YOU thinks he is wise in this system of things, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

>because your entire religion is based off of lies and has absolutely zero connection to Jesus Christ.

(1 Peter 4:4) Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU.

(1 Peter 2:12) Maintain YOUR conduct fine among the nations, that, in the thing in which they are speaking against YOU as evildoers, they may as a result of YOUR fine works of which they are eyewitnesses glorify God in the day for [his] inspection.


If OP is paying attention I'm the only one where God is using me to speak to you through his word. I'm the only one using the Bible and letting God speak for himself. Let that be a hint on who to follow. Again, come here

>JW.ORG

Go to free Bible study section in your country. We will come to you.
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Can a religious person here explain what draws them to a religion? I really can't understand it.. I have never felt the need to "pick" a religion..
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>>128697758
>That's not how that works.

>i can have the chicken, the beef, or the pork
>ill have the beef
>now how should i have this beef

>i can be a kike, a Christian, or a muslim
>i think christians have it right
>But which KINDA Christianity
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>>128697308
Agreed, and Im glad there is no real hostility like that here. I think Catholics and Protestants simply need to speak more. I was raised Catholic myself, even went to a Private Catholic School and was an alter-boy for a while. I went through a lil phase of being Nihilistic and am just now returning to my faith, although through non-denomination for now. Ive spoken to many many people from different denominations and the biggest issue I see is that they dont have an understanding of why there are different denominations, and what those differences are. Christianity under every denomination howver is still that of the teachings of Christ, teachings of peace and love and every true Christian shows that.
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>>128697919
This is an earthly decision making process. If a god doesn't speak to you, you're just LARPing.
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Read your bible and your history and choose for yourself. This sort of thing can't be handed to you by another person, it really is the journey that matters
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>>128697049
Agreed. Men of all Christian faiths must find common ground and unite against the hordes that threaten the existence of all that is good remaining in the world. Else, mankind will fall into the progressive's Slough of Despond, dragging us down into that mire with the fedoras, self-loathing SJWs, Muzzies, and the chosen people, where nothing of any tinge of the sublime can ever again grow.
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>>128697790
what are you now?
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>>128697887
you need to read the Bible
this passage is a very nice introductory point
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5-7&version=KJV
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>>128690605
>I'm choosing a wrong religion!

Well, choose again, duh
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>>128690605
The best Christians I ever met never went to Church. They called themselves Lutherans but who knows how closely they followed it. You're just adopting it to cement the social and political views you hold anyway, why not interpret the words yourself instead of having your understanding of the word predetermined? Go sit in at the churches in your area and the most admirable or virtuous population is the one you might want to join.
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>>128697887
Community. Being around wealthy, well-rounded elders. It's good for the children.

>>128697997
It's literally Protestant fault for dividing Christianity.
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>>128697887
Belonging to something greater than myself plays a part, Serving my God also does as well.
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>>128697798
you deny the divinity of Christ, why even call yourself a Christian?

By the way, the devil is also fond of using scripture to mislead people, so its not necessarily a point in your favor to just be quoting passages
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>>128690605
Just read the Bible and watch Jordan Peterson videos.
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>>128696879
>"Money laundering" you know jack shit about catholicism

I'm a former Catholic. This is one of the reasons I left. Do you know how much the church is worth while their followers in 3rd World Countries live in dire poverty? Their charities, hospitals, and foster homes are all fronts for money laundering, pedophile rings, etc. They are a classic example of trickle down economics or trickle down miracles in their case. Only a few drops result in any help just for publicity.

This is also the primary reason they do this:

>Matthew 6:1-4 - “Take good care not to practice YOUR righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise YOU will have no reward with YOUR Father who is in the heavens. 2Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full. 3But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, 4that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you.

Doing works of righteousness for publicity is a huge sin in God's eyes.
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>>128698077
I mean so I agree with these concepts like no killing people "Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:" but why do I need to believe in Jesus to just be a decent person is more of what I am not understanding.
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>>128697887
Jordan B Peterson explain kinda well in a podcast with crowder. Relgion is of how to behave in the world. It is a belief structure that everyone has, even athiest have a belief structure and a set of values. He goes on to explain that Religion is one truth, the other is science which is what the world is. Now you can connect those to, to say that science is simply how your diety works in the world. Kinda up to the individual. But yeah, relgion is the world of behavior and how to act. Religions like Christianity have you go agaisnt your basic human instincts. For example look at the 10 commandments. Each of those things would be something youd prolly honestly do if you didnt have religion or any kind of set of values.
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Which Bible do I read? Which version is right???
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>>128698417
Are you anti-capitalist? Because you just described capitalism
>capitalists make money
>3rd worlders starve

Join your church again, anon. Worry about being the best (you) possible. Muslims are 200x more likely than whites to be pedophiles.
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>>128690605
Orthdox all others are degenerate
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>>128698417
But they don't practice in front of anyone though. Most people don't even know sometimes. There is no publicity on the missionary work in africa and asia.
Besides, if we are looking at a "Value" point of view, the catholic church makes way less money in a year than the porn industry. If you think just distributing the money to the poor is going to solve things, again, you know jack shit.
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Eastern Orthodox

Go to a service and see for yourself. They don't push Dogma on you and most eastern orthodox slavic churches (I don't know about the Greek ones) values maturity and individual thought more than blind faith. You won't find bible-thumpers there like you will in any other church. People are reasonable and even the priests understand that religion is there to serve people, not the other way around.

Also priests can marry and don't have to fuck little altar boys.
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>>128698791
>Implying celibacy is bad because one guy in a 1000 is a paedophile.
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>>128698137
Really? Its not the fault of the fraudulent clergy that inspired a slightly more righteous man to list his legitimate complaints? Do you think that with the printing press mass producing bibles, your sole interpretation of the word and then the additional non biblical laws would have been accepted by all Christians forever?

That's the kind of arrogance that is telling of how wrong you are. You better get back in that book and find the parts about throwing stones.
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WHICH BIBLE DO I READ? IS IT NECESSARY TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN TO BE SAVED??
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>>128697887
>“MAN cannot live on bread alone.” (Matthew 4:4, The New English Bible)

As arrogant as it may seem my answer is the only relevant one. Ask if you wish to know more.
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>>128698948
>Protestant propaganda

Which came first, anon? The chicken....or the egg?
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>>128697887
I'm a non-denominational christian, though most would call me Gnostic because I incorporate the gnostic gospels into my canon, as well as many other "heretical" works.

I am firm believer in the existence of the soul, and that the soul is an entirely different being than the body is. what draws me to world religion is what they have to say about the Soul, where it goes, what impacts it, what builds it, and what destroys it. and quite frankly all the lessons are the same, while the symbols are slightly different, most people are Idolaters, and choose Idols over teachings every day of the week. here is the religion pill

>>128698137
catholicism has a nasty habit of burning anyone, and destroying nations who read the bible. One pope killed more Christians than every Caeser put together. Catholicism is a fraudulent Luciferian counterfiet. that is wrapped up in the political system of Rome, you are the whore of babylon who is drunk on the blood of saints. the catholic church invented Islam, which is why you have several popes venerating the Quran, and pushing a pro-Islam rhetoric. the Jesuit/Rosicrucian societies also invented Freemasonry merging with the Stonemasons guild. frankly every single catholic is incapable of reading their bible.

>durr proddies removed books
the vatican removed 14 books in 1684, and the council of Nicea destroyed countless gospels that have never been re-discovered, as well as destroying every other sect of christianity for disagreeing with you. the gospel of Thomas is inspired canon

acts 17:24 24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;

Acts 7:48
However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands.

the spirit of God does not dwell in any church that is made by human hands, and the spirit of God is no where to be found in the RCC, when it was made the state religion in 380 quite frankly it had nothing to do with Peter.
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>>128698443
You dont need to believe in Jesus to be a decent person. The thing is, for one, There is evidence he existed. There are Roman Writers and historians that tried to discredit the church by slandering Jesus, but at the same time kind of confirmed he lived. The second reason, is that well it works. You can tell a difference in your life when you believe. It's hard to explain. You fill fullfilled guess. But youre the only one that can answer why YOU should believe in something. I can give you every reason possible, still doesnt mean you would believe.
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>>128697887
Reverence for the Divine Creator and His Son's sacrifice for us. Finding the path of truth that can only be found through reflection in a world where evil or lost men try to degrade good people and strip them of their dignity and spiritual innocence.
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No racially aware individual could EVER believe in a religion that teaches white men to bow down before a Jewish Rabbi.
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>>128698682
Are you trolling or just being foolish? Charity exists in capitalism which is what the church should be doing instead of getting more gold candlesticks. In a free market you are free to spend money as you wish which includes spiritual matters like helping lift your destitute brothers below the equator. Youd think the current pope would understand this and make different radical changes in his tenure.
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>>128699410
>the edgy pagans are here
you guys are the highschool goths from the 90s

kys
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>>128694182
Read the books of John to understand grace.
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>>128698443
even a single sin is punishable by death (physical and spiritual)
all sins require a sacrifice to be forgiven
Jews (back when they believed) used to slaughter lambs and doves and things
so they'd end up having to kill tons of animals because of all the awful stuff they did
then God unleashed the ultimate sin absolving sacrifice, Himself in the form of a man, so He could be crucified as everyone's (Jew and Gentile) lamb. They have to accept they have done wrong to receive this gift. Even the most perfect of men still sin, and any sin makes the sinner deserving of hell. Because God is merciful, He created a way for everyone to be saved forever. Because He is fair and consistent, He did this all abiding by His own system.
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>>128699028
Honestly I'd go with the KJV, though anything with an accurate translation of the Septuagint and Textus Receptus is your best bet.
Here's a decent movie about it:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ
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>>128699040
Hey, weirdo, he said "What type of Christian religion", meaning you'd have to have some connection to Christ. You can take your heresy elsewhere.
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>>128699452
Welcome to the real world, bud. Let me tell ya, I'd much rather sit in a Catholic church, surrounded by beauty. Architecture designed by white hands, woodwork designed by white hands, magnificent paintings designed by white hands, than to throw a raggity blue carpet down, with a "made in china" cheap bench...No offense, aesthetics is important.
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>>128699061
Please point out where my understanding is false or mislead, thanks. I don't think the protestants are super great guys either judging by the 200 years of bloody religious civil war that followed the major split, so your implication that I am one sided seems to fall flat, again unless you point out where my understanding is flawed. If you pull this snide crap again I'll know what your game is.
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>>128692002
DELET THIS INFIDEL
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>>128699516
Why are (((you))) trying to brainwash whites into following a religion that teaches them to worship the Jewish Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef, self-proclaimed Son of the Ancestral Hebrew god YHWH?
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>>128699700
Exactly. Also, there's "We have cheap things because we give all our money towards charity" and then there's "We have cheap things because the higher ups keep the money for themselves".
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The type of Christianity where you get to kill niggers, spics and jews and get named a Saint as a result.
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>>128699028
>>128699028
>WHICH BIBLE DO I READ?

New World Translation
American Standard Version
Reference Bible
Kingdom Interlinear
Byington

>NECESSARY TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN TO BE SAVED??

>(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

>(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”

Yes

>>128698181
Answered>>128694952>>128695892

>>128698181
The Devil quotes scripture out of context in order to trick you into doing something wrong. When the Devil quoted the Bible to Jesus it was to trick Jesus into killing himself. Nothing I quoted is going to get you hurt.
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>>128697602
>One is far off lands had their own pseudo popes (the patriarch of Constantinople [istanbul] {roach hive} ) and they wanted them to have more power.
Typical Catholic lies. The Fourth Ecumenical Council established the primacy of New Rome (Constantinople) and the Patriarch therein. It's the butthurt Bishop of Old Rome that wanted more power and so split the Church even though it was Jesus prayer that the Church be one as he and the Father are one.
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>>128699700
>I would rather

Ok so it's your preference, not the actual written word. This seems to be a common theme among Catholics, and y'all still blame protestants for the split when they were following the actual words closer than you.
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>>128699785
>he'd rather europe pagans be destroyed by islam rather than unified under Christendom.

You saw how the spainards got moored and now have dark features because of it? guess what? That'd be throughout all of europe
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Orthodox or catholic.
Prods are fucking morons that have sullied the Christian name.
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>>128690605
Go with Mormonism. I promise you if you check it out you will not be disappointed. Don't go with any just because it's popular, go with what feels right.
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>>128699914
Again, why do you keep trying when your organization was created by some nut based on the lie that the world was ending in the 1910's?

Just fucking stop already. You've racked up enough witnessing hours this week, you don't need a couple more to look good to the minister.

Oh, also

>The Devil quotes scripture out of context in order to trick you into doing something wrong. When the Devil quoted the Bible to Jesus it was to trick Jesus into killing himself. Nothing I quoted is going to get you hurt.

Tell me, is this out of context?

Luke 21:8 "And He said, "See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not go after them."

Meaning, religions that go around saying "The world is going to end!" are false religions. Meaning Jehovah's Witnesses.

Go away, this is a thread for Christian religions, you're not Christian.
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>>128690605
Both are shit. The reason for the split was just foolish vying for power between the Pope and the Patriach. Just read the Bible and follow Jesus teachings without concerning yourself about the various brands of Christianity.
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Nondenominational
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>>128690605
I would pick either Roman Catholic, or Orthodox. Personally RC, but many good friends are Orthodox. You cannot go wrong here.
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>>128700018
You don't seem to have read any of my posts.
BTW, sola scriptura is heresy.
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>>128698756
>But they don't practice in front of anyone though. Most people don't even know sometimes. There is no publicity on the missionary work in africa and asia.

Of course

>>128699644
Answered here>>128695582
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>>128690605
Go Catholic. That cross in the OP pic is St. Benedict's cross, St. Benedict is one of greatest figures in the history of the church.
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>>128700155
>go with mormonism
Oh, you mean the religion based off the lie that somehow Isrealites made it to North America? Oh, and the tablets that say that have only been seen by one guy. When he wanted it written down, he stuck his face in a hat and read it aloud, the writer never saw it. To test him, the writer told the guy that he lost the writings, to make sure that he wasn't just making it up as he goes along. He got angry, went to "pray", and told the writer that God was very angry and that he would read from the book of the Nephites, which was the same story, but told in a different way.

In other words "I don't remember exactly how I told it, so let me cover my ass by telling you the story again but obviously in a different way"

Fuck off, you don't have any connection to Christ either.
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>>128690605
I would recommend watching these videos and to ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. The videos should bring you up to date on the current battle between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan.

Identity Crisis- Passion for Truth Ministries
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-1jUc963g

Know Your Enemy (Part 1 - Introduction)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDGl79x4Pc
I recommend watching all 77 parts. Good Christian videos.

Also watch this, Satan is deceiving Christians a lot right now and making his own versions of the Bible.
tl;dw: KJV or original Hebrew/Greek are good.
"New World Order Bible Versions" FULL MOVIE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgDXZfOfx0
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>>128699914
Can you give me a rundown on the different versions and what makes one shitty or not?
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>>128699535
I have a bone to pick with the KJV, it mistranslate Sheol/Hades into death/hell,

>>128698532
the New american standard bible.
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>>128700099
>it wasn't that our clergy were the most corrupted men, it was the guys who pointed it out!
>Wikileaks has soiled the Democrat name! It has nothing to do with the fact that I lie with each breath I take and have committed multiple high level felonies!

I mean you could at least try to understand another perspective but oh well, your church was all good and the fault rests on the other, I get it. It's just not honest is all.
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>>128700018
You realize the bible wasnt out together until years later right? Even then, Catholics use the bible as a tool to worship God, they still have the same beliefs and still follow it just as close as you do, they simply have traditions and nice churches to go with it.
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>>128700235
>Meaning, religions that go around saying "The world is going to end!" are false religions. Meaning Jehovah's Witnesses.

Did you look this up yourself or did you just believe anything told to you?
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>>128690605
So long as you accept Christ, all will be well. Pray and study scripture.
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>>128700372
No, but it's not. At what point did any of your founding members know anyone who knew Christ or knew someone who knew someone who knew Christ or knew someone who knew someone who knew someone who knew Christ? Never? Oh, right, your religion was formed 120 years short of 2 millennia after Jesus died. So there's literally no connection with God there.

Jesus taught to preach through action, and yes, preach through word of mouth. He didn't teach to do what you're doing.
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The kikeish one
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>>128700551
I don't give a fuck about the leadership.
The theology is the only thing that matters and the prods have shit tier theology. Every single one.
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>>128690605
Catholic because there is substance there. Faith without works is dead.
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>>128690605
Again, it's not about the most "pilled" one.

And if you're in there for politics, please leave
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>>128700715
the catholic/orthodox church are still the 2 legs of Iron in the statue of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel, one leg being the western leg of Rome, on leg being the eastern leg of the Byzantine empire.

quite frankly pretty much all theosis is wrong. and quite frankly not a single catholic has any clue what the bible says, nor do they ever walk in the spirit of Christ.
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>>128700560
I did, actually, I found it myself in the Bible.

>did you just believe anything told to you?

Laughable coming from a fucking Jehovah's Witness. Like an alcoholic telling me that I drink too much.

Here's the problem with debating you lot. It's not that you necessarily believe the wrong things, it's that you're following an organization that's a cult. Yes, the world will "end" at some point. But the JW organization was formed claiming that on this date the world will end, and when it wasn't true, the date was moved up. If I remember right, the date is somewhere in the 2030's now? Idk.

It's such a watered down version of Christianity also. It has no soul. When I walk into my church, I feel the presence of God. It's a very visceral feeling. I thoroughly enjoy being inside the church.

When I walked into Kingdom Halls, it didn't much feel like I was in a Kingdom Hall, it felt like I was late for class. The name "meeting" is so fitting, because it's a business meeting.

You're doing it wrong.
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>>128700363
Not ginna sift thru the thread looking for your ID, link them or take the L bro, I didn't read anything in the bible about how the bible required an expansion pack in order to not be heretical and would be fascinated to know.
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>>128700774
>real substance
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>>128691301
>muh Freemasons
Any Catholic trying to become a Freemason will be excommunicated be decree still in effect today because of their heathen religious views

Catholics actually have subjected and driven out jews many times in history, and it was a protestant king that finally allowed them back in England.

Catholics still believe in the traditional nuclear family, which goes against commie ways, and it's just that Commies abuse the teaching of peace be onto others to get more members and tarnishing the free will given by God. It can be a coin toss at times of how they lean, but I have a good number of right leaning Catholic friends who want to Deus Vult and send to the chopper commies and socialists.
Luciferians and Satanists are pretty much athiest edgelords.

Any faggot pedo bishops or priests deserve the rope, and it sounds like you hate Jews so much that you love Islam instead, kek.
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>>128700979
it still doesn't change the fact that the Catholic Church invented Freemasonry.

and quite frankly catholics aren't allowed to read their bibles. BUT THEY CAN SURE READ THE QURAN THOUGH LOL
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>>128700979
And when you become Catholic, part of what you recite is "I reject Satan and all his works". So becoming a freemason is a huge no no.

>Any faggot pedo bishops or priests deserve the rope, and it sounds like you hate Jews so much that you love Islam instead, kek.

Well, there's no issue with gay priests, they're doing what gay people should be doing, ie staying celibate because gay sex is wrong.

I agree with pedos. If you're a pedophile and you put yourself in a situation where you have power over children, you should be shot.
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>>128691485
And I mean I know we became friends and Orthodox bros are cool with us, but we still would disagree which is right still and say X is better, and on top of that communists hate religion and raped nuns and pillaged churches during their Russian revolution. How the fuck do you think commies are in control of Catholic/Orthodox religion?
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>>128700979
Never mind the fact the church teaches Freemasons to in a state of sin

>The following is a partial list of actions that are defined as constituting a grave matter by the Catechism of the Catholic Church or like sources (such as declarations by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Apostolic Letters, or other sources printed by Church authorities).

>Participation in Freemasonry "The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion."[37]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin>>128701103
>>128701103
>>128701124
You're protestant hillbilly trash
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>>128700503
dude don't trust a Jehovah's Witness
they are cult-tier
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>>128701124
oops didn't mean to quote ya >>128701257
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>>128700554
I'm not saying that Catholics are wrong or bad. I'm recognizing that Jesus was not the type of man that would be comfortable with expensive architecture and gold all around him while good Christians live in squalor. I think Catholics building great monuments and starting universities was fantastic, A1 western civilization. But when Catholics act as if protestants are wicked when they are following at least in their eyes a path that is closer to Jesus and how he lived, or they they were solely responsible for weakening Christianity I find that to be fundamentally ignorant for good reasons I've delineated above.
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>>128692123
American Anglicans are Episcopaleans.

My brothers Episcopalean is dope, it an hours drive away and not worth it.

Go to a few churches in your area and decide between Orthodox, Catholic, Episcopalean or Mormon.
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>>128701257
I'm Catholic though. I was saying that being gay is not a sin, and according to the Catechism, they call homosexuals to be celibate. And if you're a priest, you're celibate anyway, so it doesn't matter if you're gay or straight.
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>>128700928
>>128695425
>>128697061
>>128696499
And it isn't about "expansion packs" It's just that there's literally nothing in the bible that says that only the bible is an acceptable source for theological study and nothing else.
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>>128701266
How on earth am I meant to figure out which group is correct? Every religion - even the mainstream ones - seem to have culty part of their history
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>>128701309
Ah, you're good senpai.

>>128701266
They're cult tier in the same way that bread is carb-tier, meaning they fit the definition to the tee.
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>>128701257
Any other groups who are automatically excommunicated like the masons?
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>>128701103
>catholics aren't allowed to read their bibles
I have a bible sitting on my desk right now that I have read multiple times.
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>>128700503
All Bibles have in common that they are translated from the original Koine Greek and Hebrew languages with the help of other languages of the ancient world. Not even modern Greek and modern Hebrew is the same. Since those ancient languages are incompatible with all modern-day languages getting a 100% accurate Bible from them is impossible. Only 99%. There are two kinds of translations: Word-for-Word and Paraphrase. Word for word stays as close to the original words as possible but strays from some of the meanings of the sentences originally spoken. The other is paraphrase where it doesn't stick to the literal definition of the original word but strays on purposely to give a general idea. The problem with this is that it can stray to far from the original languages. The perfect Bible tries to find the middle ground between both.

The NWT is mostly word for word with some paraphrase wherever necessary.

ASV is mostly paraphrase

Reference Bible is the same as the NWT except it adds commentary

Kingdom Interlinear is mostly a giant dictionary that parallels original ancient words with modern words. Extremely word-for-word

Byington, aka The Bible in Living English is very in-between. A very good one.
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>>128701257
1) Not protestant
2) Martin Luther didn't start the reformation, theres about 10 other people I can list
3) what is the Textus Receptus
4) Not a Hillbilly.
5) Not trash
6) anyone who has studied the origins of freemasonry can easily confirm that it has its roots in the roman catholic church
7) The catholic church even invented Islam
8) a Jewpedia article on "mortal sin" still won't change the fact the Catholic Church is the whore of babylon who is DRUNK on the blood of saints. the inquisition is quite the most despicable act in all of Europe, and one pope killed more Christians than every Caesar put together.
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>>128701477
>answering "evangelicals"

should be a mortal sin desu
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>>128690605
I believe the Pre-Nicaea Christianity known as Arianism is considered the most redpilled sect.
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>>128701103
Wow, I've never met a retard on the internet before. What's it like, being a retard?

There's like five Bibles in my house, and while I was becoming Catholic I was encouraged to search out, not just Biblical studies, but other religion's interpretations of the Bible. Why? Because that helps us understand why our understanding is better.
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>>128701477
bible possession was still banned in the catholic church for hundreds of years, and if I got caught with one, I would have been burned at the stake, or brutally anally tortured for being a heretic.
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>>128701554
I can't help it though. Sorry man :(
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Proddies taking awful heat in this thread lmao
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>>128701498
Thanks, what is wrong with bibles like the KJV or the ESV?

whats the measure of a true denomination compared to a false one?
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>>128701421
>(2 Corinthians 13:5) Keep testing whether YOU are in the faith, keep proving what YOU yourselves are. Or do YOU not recognize that Jesus Christ is in union with YOU? Unless YOU are disapproved.

>(Matthew 7:16-23) BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men]. 21“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

>(John 13:35) By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.”
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>>128701736
Okay, but it's not now, and most protestant religions didn't exist while this was happening, so I mean... how about we compare on the same timescale.
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>>128701736
Sudo historical argument for something protestants did too (inquisition)
Try harder.
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>>128701547
I wasn't quoting "Jewpedia", Mr. "Redpill". It itself was quoting the Catechism of the Catholic Church and it's the authoritative book published by the church on many teachings. Either way you're a conspiracy theorist and wasting your life, I wish you could see the church for what it is and not the way you think it is.
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>>128701774
righteous anger
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>>128701686
>what is the council of Toulouse

Pope Innocent III stated in 1199:

... to be reproved are those who translate into French the Gospels, the letters of Paul, the psalter, etc. They are moved by a certain love of Scripture in order to explain them clandestinely and to preach them to one another. The mysteries of the faith are not to explained rashly to anyone. Usually in fact, they cannot be understood by everyone but only by those who are qualified to understand them with informed intelligence. The depth of the divine Scriptures is such that not only the illiterate and uninitiated have difficulty understanding them, but also the educated and the gifted (Denzinger-Schönmetzer, Enchiridion Symbolorum 770-771)

The Council of Tarragona of 1234, in its second canon, ruled that:

"No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned lest, be he a cleric or a layman, he be suspected until he is cleared of all suspicion."

-D. Lortsch, Historie de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.

>What's it like, being a retard?

look in the mirror, and try learning a little bit of world history.

BIble possesion being banned in the RCC is one of the BIGGEST reasons of the reformation
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>>128701419
Fair point, but that's not a good reason to put faith in non biblical text, because there are plenty of bad ideas that are not in the bible. So what compels you to follow non biblical doctrine aside from tradition? Tradition is a fine enough reason but it doesn't make your doctrine true. How do you know that it was not Satan who penned your auxiliaries to mislead you? Honest questions, its something I really don't understand about catholics.
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>>128701835
How does this point to a religion that was created nearly 2 millennia after Jesus was around? The answer is, only if you've already assumed that JW is the correct way to go about things.

And, no surprise, you've yet to actually address any points.
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>>128701460
Pretty much any secret society/occult

>The Catholic Church first prohibited Catholics from membership in Masonic organizations and other secret societies in 1738

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ban_of_Freemasonry
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>>128701383
I totally agree man, and when I said faggot pedos, I didn't mean gay men, just the pedos who usually attack young boys deserve it. There have been lots of homosexual priests who don't act upon it in history.
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>>128701802
Spurious Text. They on purposely added verses that were never a part of the the original manuscripts. They also removed God's name from the Bible and replaced with LORD over 7,000 times. What is God's opinion on removing his name?

>(Jeremiah 23:27) They are thinking of making my people forget my name by means of their dreams that they keep relating each one to the other, just as their fathers forgot my name by means of Ba′al.

The Baals are the demonic gods of the ancient worlds. They demanded for God's name, in English Jehovah, to be forgotten and never said again forever. Any Bible that simply removes God's name is invalid immediately.
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>>128702018
>Pretty much any secret society/occult

Like what what though? Ive only ever heard of the masons.

Would this cover Catholic communists/marxists or government agencies which require absolutely secrecy and loyalty to the government?
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>>128701863
The ban only served to prevent Protestantism... that's the point. That if you just let everyone read it themselves, significant amounts of the population will find contradictions between the clergy, the word, and the life Jesus lived.
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>>128701863
>historically the One True Church™ said to be ordained and guided by God himself has been lead astray many times but that doesn't mean it's not fine today
Vatican II and the popes are pretty much proof the Catholic Church is a sinking ship
also there have ALWAYS been Christians who weren't a part of the Catholic church
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>>128701835
The trouble is Im not sure what would count as good fruit when it comes to a denomination.

>>128702150
>They also removed God's name from the Bible and replaced with LORD over 7,000 times

So every time there was YHWH in the original text they replaced it with Lord?
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>>128701965
While tradition does make a huge role, the biggest one is the significance of the text to Christianity as a whole, as well as background on the person that wrote it.
For instance, Thomas Aquina's Summa Theologica. He divided it in two parts and explained his position on how he Views God and how he views Christ. It makes questions and answers on whole different points parting from the point of view from someone who studied the scriptures for his whole life up until that point. Is it interpretation? Yes. People might disagree? pretty much. But it is also significantly detailed and well explained.
In short, anything that was written by someone who knows what he was doing, was in connection with the church and did not contradict the scriptures in any way.
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>>128702001
>And, no surprise, you've yet to actually address any points.

>However, we should not denounce those who in a proper spirit express their dissent in respect to the date mentioned [1914] and what may there be expected . . . We must admit that there are possibilities of our having made a mistake in respect to the chronology, even though we do not see where any mistake has been made in calculating the seven times of the Gentiles as expiring about October 1, 1914. - The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 15 November 1913, repr. 5348

>Indeed, as respects the date 1914, which we have emphasized, and respecting which we have repeatedly expressed our faith, our conviction—even respecting this date we have never knowingly spoken in infallible terms." June 1, 1913 Watchtower

>" We cannot say that it may not be either October 1914, or October 1915. It is possible that we might be out of the correct reckoning on the subject a number of years. We cannot say with certainty." October 15, 1913 Watchtower

>We are not a prophet; we merely believe that we have come to the place where the Gentile times have ended - Light, vol. 1 (Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1930), 194

>: ... It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes. It does not mean that the president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society is inspired and infallible, although enemies falsely charge us with believing so.... But we confess with the Scriptures that the day of such inspiration passed long before 1870, as the apostle Paul showed it would...- The Watchtower, 15 May 1947, pp. 157-8.

>The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic. It invites careful and critical examination of its contents in the light of the Scriptures - Name and Purpose of the Watchtower," The Watchtower, 15 August 1950, 262-263
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>>128702018
Just been thinking would that include college fraternities?
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>>128701863
this guy >>128702265
is right.

the Catholic Church has responded with Military force each time a population has put the texts of the bible above the clergy, they even burned mothers alive for teaching the bible to their children in english.

>>128701894
>. Either way you're a conspiracy theorist and wasting your life,

CTR detected.

> I wish you could see the church for what it is and not the way you think it is.

acts 17:24 24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;

Acts 7:48
However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands.

its a place where the holy spirit does not dwell.

you shill for the whore of babylon.
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>>128702244
>require absolutely secrecy and loyalty to the government?
I think that's a different situation to belonging to group like the masons. Holding something like the nuclear codes in your head and other national security things. its not sinful to hold these secrets from the church. I think it all depends on how "evil" a group is and whether they're anti- Catholic, I'm not aware if the church as declared communist to be automatically intercommunicate by I reckon people can't reconcile the two and would have to chose one over the other. sorry I didn't answer your question
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>>128702244
Freemasonry is banned as it teaches it okay to believe that any belief in one God is okay, and one I know for sure to be ok with the church is the Knights of Columbus, which Jeb!, Babe Ruth, and President Kennedy have all been a part of and even I want to join one day. Really, the KoC was created so Catholic bros could crack open a cold one and pool money to help with insurance costs and help out the community or Catholics around the world that need help, which sounds nice. All you have to be is a Catholic guy older then 18, and it's a big society in numbers and how much they donate money, blood, and supplies to help out.
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>>128702689
Sheesh, tiredness is affecting my typing and it is starting to show. Good night anons.
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>>128702779
>its not sinful to hold these secrets from the church.

I was thinking for groups like the CIA and the rather dodgy acts they carried out against people in Latin America, or intelligence agents who monitor the Catholic Church.

>I think it all depends on how "evil" a group is and whether they're anti- Catholic

Does that mean if the Masons formally forbid action against the Catholic Church they would be let back in?

> I reckon people can't reconcile the two and would have to chose one over the other

Nah theres liberation theology which is a combination of them
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>>128702501
>The trouble is Im not sure what would count as good fruit when it comes to a denomination.

Jehovah's Witnesses are the only major Christendom religion that has not participated in any major or minor war in the entire world. We did not participate in WW1 and we got imprisoned for it. We did not participate in WWII and were imprisoned in the Holocaust in Germany and in the US for refusing to participate in neither. In Germany thousands died in the concentration camps for refusal to salute Hitler. All we had to do was sign a form that said we renounce our religion and hail Hitler. We refused and were executed for it. We are imprisoned in the Middle East and South Korea for refusal of military service to this day. We were just currently banned in Russia for absolutely nothing. Like Christ, we were slandered and testified against by false witnesses. We were banned with complete innocents.

We refuse to join in protesting, politics, lobbying, and rioting. We stay as politically neutral as possible. To this day we are innocent of spilling blood even that of our enemies. Beside the verses I posted up above this is how you find the true religion.

>(Romans 12:20) But, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by doing this you will heap fiery coals upon his head.”

>(Proverbs 24:17) When your enemy falls, do not rejoice; and when he is caused to stumble, may your heart not be joyful,

>(Matthew 5:43-45) “...: Continue to love YOUR enemies and to pray for those persecuting YOU; 45that YOU may prove yourselves sons of YOUR Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous.

Jehovah's Witnesses are the only major Christendom religion that has never spilled blood nor hurt an enemy.

>So every time there was YHWH in the original text they replaced it with Lord?

Correct, thus, censoring God's name.
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>>128703060
>Does that mean if the Masons formally forbid action against the Catholic Church they would be let back in?
Yes. The church is very merciful. Like the prodigal son and the woman at the well, the Church guided by the example of Christ extends arms to embrace anyone willing to repent.
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>>128690605
Protestant is best if youre in it for the faith. If youre in it for the Church Catholic or Orthodox have all kinds of fun activities. :^)
Calvinism or WELS Lutheranism. Anything else is heresy.
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>>128702689
So some of them are well reasoned, but that doesn't explain all the doctrines that have been revoked or revised. And this seems like weak evidence to use in support of calling people heretics for not following what you admit to be interpretations of mortal born sinners well connected with a historically corrupt organization. I'm gonna do some more reading but I think it's appropriate that you apologize for such a strong statement or provide better reasoning behind why not following what you admit is no more than manmade tradition is heretical, since it's you that would be heretical in protestant circles. Heresy by nature being defined by the dominant religious group. Also please answer my question about how you know Satan did not write the auxiliaries to mislead if you can.
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>>128702992
>Freemasonry is banned as it teaches it okay to believe that any belief in one God is okay

That seems rather benign for it to be a mortal sin. Does that mean couples like Jews are in mortal Sin

> I want to join one day.
Underage?
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>>128703323
>Yes. The church is very merciful. Like the prodigal son and the woman at the well, the Church guided by the example of Christ extends arms to embrace anyone willing to repent.

Im getting mixed messages from the other anon here who is saying the fact that they say its good to believe in any one God is the problem.
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>>128703506
No, more like it's saying you aren't a Catholic if you follow a religion that doesn't accept Jesus and the one true God, which is true

And nope, 20 but don't go to church as much as I would like and my free time is eaten up by work and college.

Also another reason I want to join the KoC is even at it's creation it was very patriotic and rejects and communists or comunnist morales.
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>>128703323
>Yes. The church is very merciful. Like the prodigal son and the woman at the well, the Church guided by the example of Christ extends arms to embrace anyone willing to repent.
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>>128703506
This is what my family believes and I decided that God is probably a big metaphor. Super important for our evolution as humans and as a culture, not something to be cast away as superstition, but welcomed as the poetry of life that guides you to a heavenly life and warns against bad habits that will make your life hell.

So that's probably why the church doesn't like the freemason idea. My family took a "soft" approach, and now I see the chains of the church and superstition. I'm more virtuous than most religious people I meet, but I pay no priest and put reason and evidence before traditional memes.
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>>128703365
In the end, I'm not a theologian. I'm not even good at expressing myself so I'm sorry for that.
And as for "Inspired by Satan" how do you know that it is? I have some reasons from which I believe it wasn't but that is personal experience and can't be qualified as theological fact. I do recommend however that you read it and get your own thoughts on it, I'm too tired rn.
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>>128703764
Hmm I look back into the thread but if I f had to take a guess it probably has something to the with the Trinity. Catholics believe in one God but God is made up of three "persons" all equal and part of each other with Christ being the son of the God the Father and the Holy Spirit acting kind of like mediator for lack of a better term. The catholic Church teaches Mormons aren't Christian because they deny the trinity,I'm guessing its both this and hostility mason have towards the Church. Read and watch E Michael Jones to know more about the long wars the Church has had against enemies of the church
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>>128704212
>believing in propaganda
I bet you believe the crusades where just white European barbarians beheading anyone who convert to Christianity, huh? Same stupid shit.
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>>128704464
wouldn't*
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