WWII Lasted a total of 6 years. Assuming that Hitler started

You ever notice what this always goes back to? "Yes, goyim, six gorillion, great human tragedy, etc. Now, Switzerland, let us at that Nazi gold."

Why can't you just gas 100 of them at a time again ?

>>128685792
>Why can't you just gas 100 of them at a time again ?

It's easier to kill people than get rid of the bodies. Way more work.

>>128685792
Nobody said you can't, but you can't cremate 100 at a time without 100 ovens.

actually it was 1 million in "auschwitz" which was a collection of camps. get out of our board stormfag.

also sage

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this is what Jews believe

Is this true. Did math just destroy everything I learned while being indoctrinated in school

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post yfw jews create a mass grave of muslims and discover it in the future claiming its the missing bodies of the gorrilion

>>128686035
they weren't all cremated...have you never seen the pictures of the mass graves?

the number is inflated, and we focus too much on the jews killed and not the slavs etc, but they weren't all cremated

>>128685792
You can.
Go ahead. Run these numbers again, instead factoring that 100 were killed at a time and 15 were burned at a time. You can't change the number of ovens, however you can change the length of the line of Jews waiting to have their bodies disposed of and just rotting in a room.
>you're really smart, anon.

Imagine if we also factored every other body that was killed by typhus or the cold or similar causes of death besides the gas chamber.
Now we have even more bodies to get rid of, and even less being killed intentionally. Woo!

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>>128685518

is why do you want the holocaust to be fake? why don't you devote as much effort to calculate how many russians did stalin killed or how many french did the haitians decapitated? the real question for me is: who is manipulating your emotions and for what purpose?

btw, I am a historian and I can safely say that the holocaust did happen and it's very well documented.

>>128686694
>that picture
Why?

>>128686198
>you must be new here
rather then flashing your jewishness, do you have a refutation?

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>>128685518

>>128686602
You mean those bodies that look like typhus victims? Yes, I've seen them, but not millions. The majority of deaths were caused by the allies.

>>128686694
I don't think anybody here **wants** the holocaust to be fake. Most people come here because the medium for discussion allows dissenting opinions to be considered without bias of the speaker.

If you follow the history books, yes the holocaust happened. If you apply rationality and logic--look at the events both before and after-- one begins to question the validity of our pre-subscribed history.

If it truely didn't happen, what's the issue with a few people investigating for their own intellectual curiousity?

>>128686584
Wouldn't surprise me if they use the mass graves of Palestinians that they murdered in a few decades as "evidence".

There are certain groups in society that claim completely separate rights to every other group to the point where questioning a historical event is perceived as an attack. that's how narcissistic they are.

Why does one human being have the right to initiate force against another simply for asking a question.

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>>128686694
>I am a (((historian)))

Yeah fuck off Schlomo

卐 - HOLOHOAX
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>Pastebins
http://pastebin.com/35E6BdQ4
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>In 10 seconds
http://youtu.be/oUGKmCdAaN4
>In 20 seconds
http://youtu.be/zGwn5R1PC9Q
>Harold Covington: Common questions and answers
https://youtu.be/zeqsiR4HVCA
>Germar Rudolf exposes Auschwitz's Curated Lies
https://youtu.be/PSYJBVvyP08
>The First Holocaust : The Surprising Origin of the Six-Million Figure
https://youtu.be/yBnMtkbWPCs
>Eric Hunt: Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor
http://youtu.be/7dxsVSzL4HE
>David Cole
http://youtu.be/Os0eldMv-wE
http://youtu.be/RHzWo79dCHs
http://youtu.be/QxAvpvz_4wQ
>David Irving
http://youtu.be/MLloM6ufVgk
>Gerd Shulze-Ronhoff
http://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
>Steven Anderson
http://youtu.be/rhGMCYWqKI
>The Haavara Agreement
https://youtu.be/zE_daetNn8s
https://youtu.be/VBLiohokieI
http://youtu.be/j-1ts3VTeeI
>The 6 million
“You shall return minus 6 million"
http://youtu.be/LjRsoLqHGr4

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>>128686694
>why don't you devote as much effort to calculate how many russians did stalin killed or how many french did the hatians decapitated?
First of all, you type like you had a stroke. Secondly, it's because no one is profiting off of exaggerated numbers from these massacres. No one is being censored or incarcerated over these. In fact, Germany arrests you for comparing the Holocaust to the Holodomor. Israel was founded on it and it has been used to milk reparations from Europe. It's been used to discredit and criminalize not just the ideology of national socialism, but any factor related to it that does not have instantaneous overlap with its competitors. If similar circumstances were the case with other historic events with potentially exaggerated numbers, we would be all over those, as well.
>who is manipulating your emotions
Literally no one. There's nothing emotional about this, you fucking idiot.
>and for what purpose?
You should really ask this question out loud and listen carefully to it. Unless you already have preconceived answers to these two prongs to your question, then it should be clear that there is no manipulator, as there is no point for one.
>btw, I am a historian and I can safely say that the holocaust did happen and it's very well documented
I'm a historian as well, but I can safely say that the Holocaust did not happen, and while revisionists are on the right track -- they are wrong in thinking there was any attempt at a genocide against the Euro-Jews in occupied territory. The documentation is easily dissected and shown to be faulty. It takes the most uncritical, faith-based eye to look at the information and think about it, only to believe every word of it. If this event were very well documented, then every argument made by a denier or revisionist would be easily thwarted, but it is not, because there is no definitive evidence for it.

>>128685792
Where are the proofs? If it was a crime, there should have been a proper forensic investigation. Since there was none, Occam's razor says there was no crime.
To top it off, the sites of these alleged crimes, I won't call them crime scenes since there was nothing of what we could call a documentable investigation at the end of the war, were all on the Soviet side of the territory of the war, so the allies never had custody of these areas. You are asking me to trust the Soviets during the height of communist power, when you can't even trust the Russians of present day.

>>128688945
anon, one of the most famous photos of those mass graves features a jewish boy on his knees with a pistol to his head, about to be shot and thrown in

the holocaust happened. the numbers were just inflated by the russians to cover their own tracks for cleansing their own jews.

>>128690559
That's not good enough. If we start admitting hearsay as evidence, there is no end to the shenanigans that can be imposed upon us.

>>128690559
Yes and please tell us what uniforms those soldiers were wearing, because those arent German, nor was it a german pistol

>>128690538
>proper forensics
>WWII
forensics didnt become a real thing until after WWII honey

this is the dumbest shit i ever read. youre using basic fucking arithmetic in a real world situation.. you absolute fucking idiot

>>128691335
>you're using basic fucking arithmetic in a real world situation you absolute fucking idiot
t. hates math and science

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>>128690559
>anon, one of the most famous photos of those mass graves features a jewish boy on his knees with a pistol to his head, about to be shot and thrown in
Oh boy. Don't worry, you'll go from "purple pilled" to red pilled sooner or later.

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>>128691017
Explain please

2 dead jews a minute. Or 120 dead jews an hour. Even if I was forced to use a knife, I could find a way to murder 120 people in an hour. Are you trying to make the argument that the nazi's couldn't have done it? cause that would be dumb.

>>128685518
Dumbass forgetting 1.2 million were shot by death squads in dug trenches :^)

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>>128686694
>very well documented.
We don't have any sort of document ordering or managing it.
We don't have videos.
We don't have pictures that don't show emaciated, sick typhus victims corpses.
Loads of the pics in the history books (like the famous one with the naked jew guy) are proven false.
The Nuremberg trials were a total, complete farce.
The only witnesses were jews and soviets, and they were caught lying many times.

Very well documented indeed, Schlomo.

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>>128692658
>just using a knife

Heinrich Himmler, Posen speech.

"I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.' And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew. But none has observed it, endured it. Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000. To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person — with exceptions due to human weaknesses — has made us tough, and is a glorious chapter that has not and will not be spoken of. Because we know how difficult it would be for us if we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and rabble-rousers in every city, what with the bombings, with the burden and with the hardships of the war. If the Jews were still part of the German nation, we would most likely arrive now at the state we were at in 1916 and 17"

>>128685518
Wouldn't it be easier to just lock them in a room and let them starve? Why gas them and house and feed and clothe them? All of that costs money.

Starvation is cheaper and more efficient. If Nazis were the evil death squads they truly were then they would know the easiest and most effective way of removing people would be through starvation.

>>128685518
I thought it was like 1~ million in Auschwitz
and thats the whole compound

>>128685518
Wait I just realized something, why the fuck did they had them? Prisoners are already subdued, isn't the easiest way a bullet or trauma to the head? Fuck at the rate the gas and ovens worked a fucking hanging would be quicker

>>128693563
With water but without food you can live up to a week, without either you can live up to 2 to 3 days on average, the screams would drive them insane.
Not everyone that died was gassed, most weren't, they died to things like disease, exhaustion and starvation since those camps were slave labor.

>>128686694

blasphemy!!! These photos go against the word of god himself! This is heresy!

>>128693708
Shooting someone takes an impeccable amount of courage, it's really hard to knowingly kill another man like that unless you are a psychopath.

>>128694071
I beleive they did that as well

>>128694211

Nah, just need to be a sociopath.

No psychopathy needed.

>>128686694
then why is it illegal to dispute the numbers ? the only genocide that is illegal to DENY ANYTHING , if you say that only 1 milion jews died you get shut down no matter what , but deny that staling killed 20 milion and nothing happens , why ? doesn t it ring 1 or 2 bells ?


i believe that they killed jews , but i don t believe the numbers..

>>128691796
>implying you can see shit about the gun
>implying that's a pistol
>implying that's a photo of a boy standing over a mass grave
visual illiteracy and gullibility are rife in you

Other shits photoshopped, and its very easy to tell if you look closely. There's an unexplained shadow on the man in the centers pants, the product of poor clonestamping.
In the third photo, you can clearly see warping on the jackets in the sepia "real" (fake) version, and the same head appears twice in the photo (far left soldier, soldier behind man in center)

Some in the left column are actually fake, however, but they're only there to lend credence to the others, and are clearly more modern fakes. For example, the resolution of the two people hunkered down vs the man with the pistol shows those photos aren't even taken on the same filmstock, or probably even in the same era.

t. I'm a photo-retoucher by trade, I'm not falling for that shit.

>>128694211
>Shooting someone takes an impeccable amount of courage

No. It'll simply remove all illusions of safety. Killing someone essentially makes the consciousness suicide the child part of the soul.

>>128685518
Literally nobody claimed 6 million jews were killed in auschwitz alone, you inbred mongoloid.

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>>128686694

Because of shit like this.

It's literally a joke.

>>128693647
They figured that out in the 90s. Jews were claiming 4 gorillion in Auschwitz from the start.

>>128686602
How do you explain the fact that no mass graves were ever discovered? No human ash, either. Where did the bodies go?

wtf this thread is literally making me a nazi now
tfw

>>128694882
don't forget about the holocoaster tycoon

>>128686694

>very well documented

There are exactly 0 documents you can present right here right now as concrete evidence

>>128695233

That was just out of a book right?

The thing I posted was legit testimony given during the trials.

>>128695291
the holocoaster is from the sovier nuremburg trials

i hope your almonds are going quantum

>>128695197
tfw
u hav 2 go bak
its a cray cray feel

>>128695442

The audacity of those niggers

>>128685518
>It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp.
Modern crematoria, by state and federal laws regulating the disposal of human remains, are required to burn for typically anywhere from 1-2 hours, however it only takes about ~30 minutes of combustion (actively burning inside the muffle of the crematorium) and another ~15 minutes of post-combustion 'smoldering' in the collection area to reduce ~95% of an average human's remains to ash. Source: EW Jones, "Factors Which Affect the Process of Cremation", 1975, Annual Cremation Conference Report for the Cremation Society of Great Britain.

>The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.
The official statistic is 1.1 million (Wikipedia), not 4 million.


Not saying the there aren't still massive problems with the numbers, and we all fucking know that at a bare minimum two-thirds of the deaths (at least) were from disease, starvation, and exposure, not execution. Just saying that the disposal of that many bodies isn't the part of the official narrative where shit breaks down.

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>>128686694
LEF POT

>>128685518
I know right OP? I made this research myself, what is often brought up is that they were cremated on pyres which is done in india, but these do not burn bones to ash (not hot enough), which then blows a hole in their explanation. But didnt Auschwitz have 42 ovens?

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can i post

>>128685518
MATH IS ANTISEMITIC!

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>>128686694
Are you going to tell us about the skin lamps and the shrunken heads?

>b-but that was just a rumor that got out of hand!

Why would US officials show german citizens shrunken heads from south america or sheep skin lampshades and attach Jewish sob stories to them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLXpNtPsp8

>>128685518
WE NEED AN OFFICIAL UNIT FOR JEWS GASSED PER MINUTE

I suggest one milliCaust.

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>tfw Labour are probably going to win this election.
>tfw Labour are probably going to ruin this country.

Is there any hope?

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>>128692572
Exactly. Look at that hat

>>128695810
Kek. ...or, the franke.

>>128685518
holohoax

>>128685518
>The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.
No it's not

Also you're an'idiot

>>128692572
You call that a mass grave?
Gtfo
https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=44e_1406655216

>>128695773
That blue book has some wacky shit in it.

Water wells downhill and less than 20 meters from mass graves. Gas chambers running off russian tank engines. The Holocoaster. Top notch shit.

In that book, they also discuss how they mistreat a factory owner who is captive along with them, because he used to be their boss.

As an aside, were any Sonderkommandos ever tried?

>so much for German efficiency.

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>>128685518

Auschwitz was open for 3.5 years. Let's say for 3 of them were actively killing in full swing.

3 years is 365 days x 3 = 1095 days, or 26,280 hours.

1.1 million/26,280= 41.8 deaths per hour.

This is roughly 1k people per day and doesn't seem out of reach for a legitimate killing factory.

Doesn't seem too outrageous to me. Even if it is a little bit high, the significance is that Germany tried to exterminate them, not that they got x million number of them.

Also, Germans wouldn't have burned all of them. Many people were just buried in mass graves and covered up with bulldozers.

What do you think their interests would be in lying about the number killed? Are you claiming it didn't happen at all or that they just exaggerated? Please explain.

>>128696788

>What do you think their interests would be in lying about the number killed?

For sympathy.

Do you think people care how many gypsies or fags died?

Jews drown it out.

Nice Copypasta, reverse google search this

>>128695158
easily; they were, there are photos of US troops walking among the mass graves. Daft cunt.

>>128696479
>that white dude in the white robe with the m-16

>>128696788
That all sounds great until you realize no bodies were ever count they even claim that 900k people were dug up at treblinka after 3 years of decay then cremated and spread their ashes thats why there are no bodies

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>>128696412

Nice try, surrender monkey.

>>128696788

The energy and other resources required would have crippled and broke Germany long before the Americans got involved .

>>128689927
Good links

>>128696788
The truth is in how cremation works, the time required to burn multiple bodies at once. The average body takes at least an hour to burn, if you add 10 bodies that doesn't mean they will all just burn in an hour. It's not possible to burn 24/7 because of part failures and there would have to be daily downtime for fixes/cleaning.

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>>128685518
>killed roughly one Jew every 30 seconds

yeah but then you pull it out one end is burning hot and the other end ice cold

>>128697214
>>128696412

It's not his fault that the narrative is heavily regulated in Europe. Bless their hearts.

>>128696788
numbers only allow for 50,000-300,000 jews killed during the entirety of ww2, regardless if they were a prisoner or a soldier on a side, regardless if they were killed or died of any other reason of which there are many, including starvation and disease which was not uncommon.


the holocaust is based on the claim that 6 million jews died and much of them were burned in fire, or ovens. by this definition of the holocaust, it did not actually happen and is entirely fiction. considerably more millions of people died as soldiers in the war than the jewish population under any circumstance.

>>128697504
This doesn't even begin to cover the facts that their supply lines were being cut off during these specific years, so to justify them wasting these precious resources just to burn bodies seems suicidal.

>>128685518
Not all Jews killed were gassed, and not all corpses were burned in crematoria.

>>128697659

Correct they couldn't even afford to feed them. Hence, the emaciated body images the allies took when they liberated the camps.

>>128685518
OP has little imagination ...im german and studied/researched this problem.

They found solutions, often times burning piles of corpses on the fresh air outside. Or stacking multiple bodies in the oven over another. Problem was not the gassing but the burning of the corpses but after some initial friction they managed to do this in vast numbers at the end.

tl;dr: holocaust is real, get over it

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>>128692572
looks like some waffen-ss foreign legion maybe, can't quite tell based on uniforms as they are strangely unmarked (no eagle on caps or breasts), executing someone with what looks like a Ceska Zbrojovka vz. 27 or a Colt Model 1903 or Tokarev TT-33 (basically any semi-auto hammerless pistol). I don't think germans made any hammerless pistols at this time, but they did use ones from other countries in small numbers. Regarding the uniforms, I find these strange because germans usually have pretty noticeable insignia on their uniforms, right breast and cap, and their boots usually do not go up to their knees.(see pic related) Though it is possible for uniforms to have very little markings, it is pretty unlikely for all soldiers in the pic to have no markings at all.

>>128685518
In other figures, there just weren't 6 million Jews in the Nazi occupied territories.
The number is pure fiction. 1.8 million can be historically substantiated, and most of those died of hunger and disease.

>>128694520
Denying Soviet crimes in some countries gets you in hot water.

>>128697879
I know its illegal to say otherwise in your country, but that doesn't mean you have to say anything at all. You don't actually have to attempt to defend the validity of the holocaust.

>>128697091

US troops never entered the places that are now claimed to be death camps. All those places were liberated by the Red Army.

What you saw was deaths due to typhus and starvation because, due to Allied bombing the entire transportation system had collapsed or was close to it. The films you saw were taken at places like Bergen-Belsen and Buchenwald. No mainstream historian (Bauer, Hilberg, Gilbert, etc) claims that any of these were death camps. US Army records show that more people died at Dachau (opened in 1933) in the last seven months of the war than during all the previous years the camp was open.

Also, inmates were in charge of food distribution in the camps (Sonderkommando) and decided who got the available food and medicine. Some Allied soldiers admitted they found inmates that were as well fed as any soldier.

>>128698088
No it's true, they really did it. That shit happened

>>128697936
3 million were in Poland alone.

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An anon posted this a day or so ago. He claimed he took the pic of it while visiting the Manhattan Project Museum recently.

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the real number goys

>>128697855

If their plan was to gas them all, why would they even be feeding them to begin with?

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>>128697929
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WWII Lasted a total of 6 years. Assuming that Hitler started shooting Soviets since day one, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes. 20,000,000 Soviets killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 6.3 Soviets per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly one Soviet every 9.5 seconds. In the Battle of Moscow, the most famous and biggest WW2 battle, there were 3 Panzer armies. According to Moscow survivors, Soviets would go around the city, be shot for 15-20 minutes, then be buried. It takes 1 hour to bury a body using modern excavators which operate at much higher capacities than the traditional shovels at the city. However, lets say that the shovels were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to shoot and bury 3 Soviets assuming they were all shot and buried simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the bullets to hit and for the bodies to be transported from the death site to the graveyard.) The tanks used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their space limitation. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from death site to graveyard. That means 3 Soviets were shot and buried every 1-1/2 hours. That comes out to exactly 60 Soviets every 24 hours (Assuming the shooting and burying of Soviets was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total # of killed Soviets would be 131,400 for those 6 years. The official Soviet story is that 2,000,000 Soviets were killed at Moscow alone.

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>>128698088

He's been thoroughly indoctrinated by those yearly concentration camp school trips German kids are forced to take and has become totally jewified. BTW, home schooling is illegal in Germany and that's probably why.

Oh yes, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxbV3RsyQwI

>>128698187
It really didn't. There were only 6 million jews in the entirety of europe in the years leading up to WW2. 6 million was a demographic number that floated around before Hitler even started the national socialist party. Population growth models would put the current jewish population at 25 million if there were supposed to be 15 million, then 6 million of those were removed. The current jewish population is only 15 million however, meaning instead of only 9 million survivors, there were at least 5.8 million, which would mean virtually no jews at all died during WW2 under any circumstance to rival even a fraction of the amount of soldier v. soldier killing deaths, or it would mean instead of 6 million dead jews, it would be 9 or 10 million dead jews - which is even more a stretch to imagine than the already evidently fabricated 6 million.

Reality was the jewish population was only 6 million across eurasia, considerably fewer died than any other population involved in the war, the holocaust never happened, with population demographics being altered after the war to say there were 15 million before, 9 million after.

>>128699112
ok this is a lot clearer. I can see 4-5 of them have eagles.

>>128694882
How can any holocaust believer defend this? It's clearly bullshit fantasy. You can't "roast" 250,000 corpses at once. This shit just reads like a fairy tale desu

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No one posted this video yet:
Adolf Hitler The greatest story Never told Full 6 hours Documentary
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XExjrZxTdk

You don't burn one piece of wood all the way to ash before adding another piece.
The idea of measuring the time it takes to burn a body doesn't make sense. They would've added another whenever there was room.
A veritable bonfire of jews.

>>128699585
how do you bonfire in a cremation furnace? Don't you lose all the heat from opening the door?

>>128686532
Giving it 20 minutes of solid thought puts the whole damn story to bed.

>>128686602

The Jews who died at Bergen Belsen while the UK was running because of an out of control typhus epidemic? Auschwitz was built on reclaimed wetlands no holes were being dug there filled with anything but groundwater. Fuck off.

>>128686694

NIZKOR faggot prances on stage on cue. Dance for us monkey.

>>128699938
Same way you add wood to a wood stove. Open door, throw in wood, close door. Oxygen feeds fire, burns hotter with more.

>>128696479
>1 isis squad more efficient than entire nazi germany

>>128688018

Painted brick is an abomination but no one ever said Jews have a a taste for anything aside from lying and incest.

>>128698320
No goy it was 8 billion in poland alone!

>>128698418
Most Jews came from Poland and the Balkan. There are missing a lot of countries on that list, not just the holocaust deaths

>>128697091
Hey fucker, answer this: >>128698178

You can't. Because it's fucking bullshit. Typhus and starvation killed the Jews, not tireless German gassers/burners.

>>128700306

Boy are you fucking dumb.

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By the second sentence it became clear that you're a retard.

>>128700652

Personal experience sometimes leads one astray.

>>128699938
There are other burning materials than just wood.
Gasoline and natural gas work well, or grinded coal even. Anything that can be blown with a normal burner by adding a bit of air. Preheat the air and you can burn a lot faster.

>>128700758

...another 3 way tie for last place winner.

>>128700542
Sling your mud kraut, at least I understand how fire works.

>>128693289
Incorrect translation

>>128699585
>You don't burn one piece of wood all the way to ash before adding another piece.
>The idea of measuring the time it takes to burn a body doesn't make sense.

The wood is the source of the fire. You add wood to keep the fire going.
Crematorium ovens are fueled by wood or coal or gas or some source of fuel. Bodies are mostly water. Adding bodies reduces the heat in the oven - not adds to it.
You have to wait until the body is consumed before you can add another.

>>128693708
The easiest method is actually just starvation. Which is the method the allies used to murder 1.5 million German pows after the war.

>>128697511
fucking kek KEK

>>128700915
I don't think that is how heat works. Have you taken a thermal dynamics class? The moment you open that door, all the heat and pressure will immediately rush towards room temperature and pressure. It would take quite some time to get the temperature back up after this since there is now more material and air to heat up and burn.

>>128700915


...yes we all know about Jewish lightning Rabbi but that is next week isn't it?

>>128701064

The refractory must be kept spotless and cleaned between cremations.

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>some of these posts are long as fuck
>some angry autist actually takes the time to type these
>you're now aware
>mfw

>>128686602
Those were typhoid victims. Towards the end of the war typhoid was everywhere in Germany. Plus there wasn't a ton of those bodies anyways. They were just the most photographed thing in the camps.

>>128694878
The "official" 6,000,000 depends on 4.5m at Auschwitz.

>>128699585

In typical cremation, bodies don't burn away entirely to ash. Bones do not burn completely away and have to be crushed further after cooling down. And this is using modern cremation technology. Burning bodies in the open air or in pits would make this situation even worse.

It's beyond belief to think you can completely reduce a body to ash this way and never mind that the area around Auschwitz has a high water table and any pit dug would fill with water almost right away.

Also, where is the 3,000 cubic meters of ash (assume 2 liters of ash per body, 500 bodies per cubic meter)?

>>128702090

>Also, where is the 3,000 cubic meters of ash (assume 2 liters of ash per body, 500 bodies per cubic meter)?

...it is in the gleam of possible profit and the clinking of endless muh gibs shekels.

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>>128701149
You seem to confuse heat and temperature and want to lecture us on thermodynamics?
The underpressure in ovens isn't that big and the heat doesn't dissipate that fast.

pic related shows the daily capacity of the crematoriums in Auschwitz according to the SS

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>>128702819
And here the calculations from the company who installed the ovens

>>128699258
no it did happen you fucking illiterate us twenty something. research your facts correctly idiot.

>>128686198
Fuck off, shill.

>>128703011

>research your (((facts correctly))) idiot.

>>128686602
show me sauce of one mass grave of jews made by the nazis, you'll only find euthanasia graves and massgraves of nazis, ss soldiers and german poles and the like who were killed after the war by soviets.

I've searched quite a lot but found nothing

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>>128693100

25 mts of ashes of jews?

Can someone calculate how many jews does that give?

>>128693100

Shit, this is so retarded, why would the Germans do stupid and wasteful methods like this?

Who would spend time projecting a fucking room with stupid moving knifes, when a fucking bullet is much more cheap?

Moving knifes... This shit is pathetic

>>128700531
I'm not claiming they all died any particular way. Just that they died.
Death by disease, slave labor, or execution are all forms of execution when you're held in captivity.

>>128704439
I would separate out intentional execution since the others could easily happen by accident, by suicide, or as punishment in a force labor scenario. It didn't help that saturation bombing left much of the country without food or supplies for months. I would think that if anyone was going to be honest about intentional executions in their documents it would be Germany.

>>128700915

This faggot thinks that the bodies act like fuel....

Throw 3 turkeys in your oven and I'll throw one in mine... we'all see who's cooks first.

GOD DAMN THIS WORLD IS FILLED WITH IDIOTS!

>>128704626
"or as punishment"
so...executions

You can play semantics all you want. The fact is, those people died, and their corpses were photographed, with american troops walking between, not soviet.

When people talk about the holocaust, they arent implying everyone died the same way, and through direct execution unless they're ignorant of history, which is common, as is speaking in colloquialisms.

A large number of jews died. Many were executed. If you think otherwise, you're probably quite unintelligent.

>>128704783

The fact that Jews died isn't the claim.. the claim is that 6 Million Jews were murdered..

>>128704955
If someone dies in illegal confinement, yes, that's murder.
Also you're playing semantics because you realize that the number absolutely is a combination of murder, natural death, and non-jews.

There IS room for a nuance discussion about this. The idea that they all died in once camp and were cremated IS a common misunderstanding, because most people are bloody uneducated morons that didn't pay attention in history, but that doesn't mean it's a grand conspiracy. It just means you overestimate human intelligence and attention spans. People really don't care about the semantics and methodology. It's about people dying in confinement, period.

We in America don't deny the numbers of people that died in our POW camps during our Civil War, you know.

the holocaust is a pretty laughable fiction at this point. Most everyone knows. Denial laws preserve the myth that justifies both allied atrocities and jewish guilt-manipulation. It's actually really harsh what happened to the Germans. Victors of wars write histories, and tend to demonize the enemy in this manner (bloodthirsty germans, racist american southerners, pompous redcoat brits, etc.) in order to justify brutality. The official story is typical of wartime propaganda really, and the Jews being almost completely urban/academic/merchant folks had no understanding of how things like digging graves, crematories, animal slaughter actually work.

>>128705163
6 million jews did not die in WW2 under any circumstance, natural or not, in a free country or in captivity.

It is literally a conspiracy to say the holocaust actually happened when math from every angle works against supporting it.

The current Jewish population should be almost double what it is today if there were 9 million jews after the war, as claimed from the 15 million before the war. Population growth model math fails the holocaust.
The ovens and number of ovens at the time could not have cremated as many jews as claimed. Thermodynamics and engineering math fails the holocaust.
The logistics involved with taking jews prisoner before killing them in some roundabout comically over-complicated way as an ends to a means makes no sense when they could have killed jews anywhere and had no camps. Logistical math fails the holocaust.

It's never one piece of evidence that debunks the holocaust, though any one is compelling enough. I

>>128705820
exactly: straight up logic & efficiency... why would a country fighting a war on at least two fronts, several years into the greatest war in history, not just execute jews on-the-spot, why make elaborate systems of jew storage, transfer, eradication, and concealment. It makes zero fucking sense.

>>128704285
In a cone 25m high, 50m wide, 16.3 thousand cubic metres.
Internet says 1 lb cremated tissue = 1 cubic inch ash = 0.0000164 cubic metres, so 25m ash pile is from 994 million lb burned tissue.
If we assume the average weight of a jew was 165.67 lb then that works out to 6 million jews exactly.

>>128705820
>Population growth model math
what's the model?

>>128706128
ok so if a train leaves Berlin with 60 money-grubbing shylocks, half transformed into their true form, and another leaves Warsaw with a load of flaming 3d chain-swords, how much debt is created ?

>>128706495
how much do you want created?

>>128706615
(anyone? anyone?)
6 GORILLION

>>128706365
population growth models are population * (birthrate - deathrate) per year, per year. There are different values across different demographics, obviously.

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>>128692572
All of them are wearing Yugoslav uniforms and carrying Yugoslav weapons. In short, none of that crowd is German.

>>128696788
Modern forensic evidence and ground penetrating radar scans have shown fewer than 5-6,000 skeletons in ALL of the camps combined. Where's the rest of the evidence?

>>128705163
>The idea that they all died in once camp and were cremated IS a common misunderstanding, because most people are bloody uneducated morons that didn't pay attention in history
The common claim is always that 6 million jews were gassed and cremated. No other causes of death are commonly claimed or entertained as possible, it is even illegal in many places to suggest otherwise.

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>>128685518
the 6 gorillion also accounts for Jews that died throughout Europe in ghettos, occupied villages and whatnot, right? it's not only regarding the concentration camp internees. so even if only 657k were killed in Auschwitz, couldn't millions have been casualties of war during those years through the whole Nazi occupied continent?

the only case against that, I guess, is the estimated number of kikes in Europe at the time. if I'm not mistaken, it should have been less than the 6 gorillion that were supposedly killed.

anyway, my point being that disproving the quantity killed in concentration camps doesn't necessarily disprove that 6 gorillions were killed during the war. the total number of Jews in Europe at the time, however, I can't really counter.

>>128707988
That last line is the important one. You can't question that at all.

Its already laughable that people were executed over contrived murder roller coasters and being turned into lampshades and soap. And every camp was claimed to be a death camp up until the allies investigated them and then every camp they investigated became merely a containment camp leaving all the remaining alleged death camps conveniently lying in soviet held territory, and the soviets totally investigated those and confirmed they were death camps and soviets have never made up anything before.

>>128704783
>get into fight
>have to skip dinner or work an extra shift
Yes, PUNISHMENT. Not execution. The word you're thinking of when you say "execution" is in fact "murder." You can maliciously kill someone in an indirect way by depriving them of food or working them to death, but to not count executions as their own category is needlessly confusing the issue.

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>>128707892
>No other causes of death are commonly claimed or entertained as possible, it is even illegal in many places to suggest otherwise.
Maybe people who don't know ww2 say it's 6M gassed but things like Einsatzgruppen are well known official truths. Definitely not illegal to claim they existed and killed a million or two.

>>128708434
>The allied bombings of the German supply lines executed hundreds of thousands of German civilians.

Why is it only neonazis and deranged conspiracy theorists who believe in holocaust denialism? The first group has a heavy bias and an obvious conflict of interest with discerning actual fact from fiction, and the second group is just plain insane.

>>128709614
That's what I'm taking issue with. It's fair to say they were murdered by the Allies, but to call it "execution?" It makes it just plain confusing if some people actually were executed and someone is trying to quantify it.

>>128709751
Probably because you would go to jail for saying it, anyone rational that doesn't buy it keeps to themselves.

>>128709751
It's not a popular subject. You're never going to see a large amount of evidence or arguments for either side, just people trying to drop the subject as fast as possible. Hanging out with freaks makes you a lot more likely to talk it out with them.

>>128709751
Because it's illegal to question

Which is just fucking bizarre and says to anyone with intelligence that there is morethan meets the eye

>>128709751
The best way to deligitamize something is to call it a conspiracy. That way the people who say it's real come off as "just plain insane"

>>128702819
so you're telling me that dumping an extra body on top of the unfinished first will not significantly effect the efficiency of the cremation process? The crematory in the pictures from auschwitz show a slider mechanism that holds the corpse so you would have to slide that shit out so the unfinished first corpse would cool down as you were busy loading the second. If you repeat this process, are you telling me it would be more efficient than just doing bodies one at a time?

>>128686612
Mass graves?

>>128710574
I don't think I made myself very clear on my first statement regarding heat. I was referring to the corpse not the oven itself, as you would have to remove the corpse from the oven in order to load a new one in since the crematoriums use a sliding mechanism to load bodies.

>>128710627
Which mass graves? There haven't been any found that come to even a percent of the claimed dead.

>>128685518
Not all the Jews were cremated. Not all the Jews were killed in Auschwitz. Not all Jews were even killed in concentration camps. Shut the fuck up with this dumb shit.

>implying all 6 million died by gassing
>implying those who were gassed were gassed individually
>implying all the bodies were cremated in ovens

>>128702090
>Also, where is the 3,000 cubic meters of ash (assume 2 liters of ash per body, 500 bodies per cubic meter)?
>Not snorting Jewish ash as an aphrodisiac

>>128704439
Stop shilling, no one with free thought can believe that bullshit holohoax story anymore.

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>>128685518

>>128685518

I always find it interesting to read about Gypsie's experience at the work camps. They do describe them as horrible compulsory labor under inhuman conditions, treated like subhumans, but they never mention anything about gassing. That is a pure jewish story. What's also interesting is that Gypsies never received and compensation, because they never went with the mass genocide narrative and always only described working under horrible conditions, starving, disease and being seperated from your family.

The Holocaust definitely happened, but the jews also exploited it with a killing machine extermination narrative it to gain power and compensation money. In reality most people died to disease and starvation. Which is horrible, but so did a lot of people during the war and was not special to jews.

>>128704369
That's the point. It's Jews making shit up.

>>128695600
I trust you mean these statistics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps

They don't add up to 6m. Not even close. Is this page a holocaust denier? Because it's fitting the technical definition by offering a statistic of fewer than 5m deaths.

>>128685518
Only 1 million were killed at auschwhitz
Kinda fucks your whole system up when your numbers are all off
2 million were killed before camps were even a thing.

>>128714294
See
>>128714979
The 6 million isn't the number of those who died in camps. It's the number of those who died at german hands. This includes people rounded up and shot

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>>128695600

If you don't think the holocaust happened then you need to explain why the Nazis weren't holocaust deniers. Rudolph Hoess, when on trial for his life, had every reason to dispute the claims of the allies. He didn't...

"I have been constantly associated with the administration of concentration camps since 1934, serving at Dachau until 1938; then as Adjutant in Sachsenhausen from 1938 to 1 May, 1940, when I was appointed Commandant of Auschwitz. l commanded Auschwitz until 1 December,1943, and estimate that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total dead of about 3,000,000. This figure represents about 70% or 80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries. "

http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1946Hoess.html

>>128716562
That was an initial Soviet estimate.

Shit has since actually been researched which is why nobody actually claims 4 million anymore.

>>128694211
countless veterans have proved this false

>>128717652
>oops sorry goiym we counted wrong
>it's 1 million
>we promise

Don't believe their lies

More poles died in war than 6 gorillion and no one cry after us

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>>128685518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlbLgl5WDs

>>128705163
>We in America don't deny the numbers of people that died in our POW camps during our Civil War, you know.
they werent trying to genocide americans, the holocaust is about intentional genocide not poor camp conditions

>>128718852
Who benefits from being sympathetic to millions of plumbers being exterminated?