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well?
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>>128666894
As long as im not called a bigot. Let those refugees in.
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>>128666894
Who gives a shit, they're just useless brown idiots that will live off the government all their lives
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>>128666894
There's a 1 in 5 chance that statistic is completely made up
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>>128666894
well?
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Migration is inevitable and desirable.
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>>128666894
>well?
I think you failed math, faggot.
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>>128666894
Wow. A leftist meme that's actually funny.
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>>128666894

"HAH YOUR CHANCES OF BEING KILLED BY X ARE HIGHER THAN Y SO LETS INCREASE THE CHANCES OF Y"

No
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>>128666894
If they don't manage to kill you they still shit up the country.
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>>128667323
kys
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>>128667323
>244 million are on the move
That line alone should strike fear in anyone with fucking instinct
Shoot them if they get close.
Seriously.
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>>128666894
>3 gorillion refugees
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>>128666894
>you have a higher chance of being killed by a refugee than you do winning the lottery

How many people play the lottery? They deserve to know their life is in danger.
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>>128666894
This is bullshit.
More than 2 people have died.
If you don't understand, then you suck ass at math.
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>>128667323
Well, scuse me whilst I "migrate" to your house, then whitey.
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>>128666894

Chances of demographic replacement and destroying property values and increasing crime... 100%
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>>128666894
You are only considering refugees. But including immigrants, son of immigrants, son of refugees... Muslims in general, you something like pic related
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>>128666894
List the chances of being killed by a second-generation immiigrant.
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>cafe
Of course the site run by actual hillshills will make obvious propaganda like this.
What a bunch of losers.
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>>128666894
>Walks past 100 refugees on street
>doesn't die
>Later that same day gets killed in 1 of 3 attacks that happen in the same day

>WELL ITS ONLY A 1 IN 3.64 BILLION CHANCE

Really activates my almonds.
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Meming this
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Have another
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>>128667932
That's different.
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Typical self-centered leftist logic. You're barely human. It's not about the risk of me getting killed, it's about the innocent victims that should have not been killed at all in our formerly peaceful cities. Go fuck yourself.
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>>128668082
In disbelief, I combed through all of the data it's based on myself. It was completely accurate.
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>>128667323
It's true, my sperm must migrate to a woman's womb to invade her egg and produce a child.
Are we gonna just let me rape that woman?
Best we don't.
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>so, what are your qualities? why should we hire you?
>theres only a 1 in a billion chance that i'll kill you
>you're hired!

even if 0% of muslim immigrants did anything illegal, that should be a given. the real question is if they're a net gain to our society and economy. the answer is that they're not. europe and america would be better off without immigrants. "we wont kill you" is not a convincing argument that you will be a net gain.
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>>128667323
Bringing your quadcopter along when you migrate
Just muzzie thing.
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>>128666894
You have a chance of being killed by a refugee anytime you're within their line of sight.
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1 in 3.64 billion

Wait so they're saying in the entire world refugees have only killed 2 people?


BULL FUCKING SHIT
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>>128669542

What about calling illegal immigration non-consensual immigration and thus rape?
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>>128666894
>skewed and cherry picked data
No one would ever do such a thing, r-right?
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>>128669231
>numerator - denominator fiddle

kys 2 digit IQ innumerate burger faggot
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CNN was comparing Islamic Terrorist Attacks to the IRA.
So I looked it up:
Since 1974 the IRA killed approximately 74 people with bombs and Most were solders.

Islam killed 174 people with bombs in January 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_January_2017
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>>128669966
Of children, yes.
Anchor babies are rape victims. Raped, by their parents.
As for grownup illegals, they're the rapists.

Now then, what's the penalty for rape?
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According to this, only 2 people have ever been killed by refugees.
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>>128670218
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>>128669231

No it fucking isn't. Stop lying

World population is 7.5 billion

If there are only two murders by refugees overall in the entire population it'd be a 1 in 3.75 billion chance of being killed by a refugee

Even among normal populations that's retarded. It implies there are a little over two killings committed overall in the entire population of millions of people.

Use your goddamn brain and realize when you're reading bullshit
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>>128669114
We're all human beings
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>>128670179

Depending on the color of your skin in Sweden it's either 20yrs in prison or 30hrs community service
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>>128670366
Well, until the Terrorists get you at least.
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>>128666894

So you want to play game one? Play game two as well then, or just shut the fuck up.
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>>128666894
Why would I want my chances to go up?
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>>128666894
> No, that terrorist was born here, from a family of refugees, but he wasn't a refugee. So it doesn't count.
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>>128666894
>chances of being shot with a gun are low
>haha that means I'll be fine if I put a loaded gun to my head and pull the trigger
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>>128670571
Why do you only care about yourself- not about Syrians fleeing war or North Africans fleeing slavery?
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>>128670795
I care about Americans, the rest of the world can fend for itself.
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>>128666894
>being so left you're actually defending the people that want to execute your tranny-foxkin-gay ass
That cognitive dissonance must hurt !!
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>>128670551
Mexicans never committed terror acts. Are you fine with them coming to the US?
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>>128666894
I would like refugee defined by OP or the creator of this image.
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>>128667233
>le Molymeme
ahahahahaha XDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>128670903
So you care about people that are like you, but not about people that aren't like you? It would be better if you didn't care about anything at all, and just stayed out of the way.
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>>128671412
What's wrong with that? I don't have to support things I don't like, and you have no right to force me.
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>>128671013
what do you call hanging a naked, headless corpse from an overpass?
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>>128670266
wat

faggot u replying to the wrong post, calm down
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>>128666894
>making an active choice that values one life over another

you are like a little baby
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i want there to be roaming packs of the idiots who apologies for muslims and terrorism and adopt the wasp in bee hive method,where in when a terrorist is spotted the roaming idiots swarm the terrorist saying "we love you" and "we are not racist" over and over and when enough of them have jumped on him he will either be crushed to death or cooked alive...yes quite a few idiots will die but i think we can live without people who clearly at this point carnt see the harm in islam.
what do you think?
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>>128671610
>what's wrong with that
Are you dumb?
If you don't care about people fleeing war and slavery then you will support policies that trap them there or arrest them when they try to flee.
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>>128666894
Ah, the american education system at it's best I see
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>>128666894
>Implying it's just about the terror attacks and not the unending masses of violent crime and rapidly diminishing quality of life brought on by these uncaring disrespectful assholes
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>>128667323
somebody get me the video of the gum ball guy talking about immigration
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>>128671412
Of course I care more about people like me. It would be unnatural any other way. It makes more sense evolutionary speaking to care more for your family and tribe, and to regard other tribes with caution and suspicion.
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>>128672053
why should the west have to look after these fucking idiots? like someone else said they dont want to work and will do everything to avoid it
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>>128671013
define "terror acts"
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>>128667117
sounds like they'll fit right in with the other millions of lazy white trailer trash
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>>128667323
>>128672329
https://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE
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>>128666894
It'd be zero if we didn't let them in.
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>>128672299
Digits
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>>128672335
So right-wingers are just brutes that can't rise above their animal desires?
I still blame you for giving in to them. It's pure hedonism.

>>128672401
In many countries they are barred from working. In Britain there are many of them that are working or training to get jobs.
Why should you help them? Because it's the right thing to do.
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>>128671412
I grew up in a muslim country .You dont know shit.
The people you're so passionately defending just ran over and slaughtered your countrymen lile sheep .These people wouldnt hesitate to blow your open mind right out of your skull.

Go walk around pakistan with a sign that says "I'm an open minded Brit that loves you " and see what happens. You'll die,son. You'll fucking die.
>buh buh they're brown!!
You fucking lefties crack me up!! You want to import millions of people,who dont share our identity,cultural, etc. You want to just keep the doors wide open for people who :
>They dont believe in democracy .
>They believe in sharia
>They dont believe in enlightenment OR education for women
>They oppress women and cut off their clits
>They hate/ kill gays
>They hate christians and other religions,especially sihks
>They've been spreading their beliefs with the sword for 1400+ years
I could list 100 other reasons why Islam is incompatible with western culture but I doubt even these reasons will get through your close open mind and the virtue signaling praise is too powerful. Africans are incompatible either way.
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Wow, there are literally trillions of refugees on the planet. How did I not notice all these guys?
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>>128666894

so you if youre gonna go for a walk in the park and a thunderstorm hits, do you go anyway or do you say home?

if you stay home, KNOWING FULL WELL that lightning strikes on humans are INCREDIBLY RARE, you are a bigot.
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>>128666894
>chance of paying for refugees
>100%
Welp, looks like they have to go back.
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>>128672579
And so you'd like to add to that number?
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>>128672993
>brutes
This little girl run over by your precious muslim niggers.Fuck you!
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>>128666894
Only 2 people were ever killed by a refugee?
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>>128666894
Any given refugee has a 1 in 3 billion chance to kill you specifically
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>>128666894
Jesus, there are already 3.64 billion refugees?
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>>128673144
Did I say anything that was pro-Islam?
I oppose those beliefs as well. They don't justify blocking asylum seekers.
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>>128666894
>less than 3.4 billion have entered Europe
>thousands attacked women on new years
>several involved in terror attacks, ie French football suicide attacks
>somehow your chance is 1 in 3.4 billion
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>>128666894
By this logic, given the number of humans on earth, I should be allowed to kill 3 people and get away with it.
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>>128673538
That's funny. A few months ago you were ridiculing leftists for caring about dead children washed up on beaches. Which is it?
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>>128667323
This looks like propaganda almost sarcastically made for a movie clip set in the future about how this all went down. Almost like a commercial you'd see/hear in Children of Men
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>>128670795
Cuck
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>>128668082
Asians more that whites? Where are those headlines?
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>>128670795
That image is satire, right?
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>>128673936

Yes they do.

The Manchester suicide bomber's parents were asylum seekers from Libya more than 20 years ago. These people are cancer, and so are their offspring. Sure, some are begin tumours, but many are aggressive metastatic tumours that will utterly fuck our shit up.

Kys my man
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>>128672053
I already do support those policies tho
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>>128666894
only 3.64 billion? more like 6 gorillion
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>>128670795
Somewhere out there, people believe this image is actually true.
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>>128666894
That picture is fucking hilarious I don't care who you are
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>>128675027
You haven't demonstrated anything near the proportionality you're looking for. The danger that they were in, under Gadaffi, is much worse than the danger brought by another Muslim in Britain.
There are literally millions of Muslims in Britain.
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>>128671399
Wtf i hate arguments now
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>>128672578
>Tfw can't decide if going full deus vult is more appropriate in Syria or Mexico at this moment
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>>128670795
>Stalin
>not fucking up gays and muslims
Why are leftyplebs so dumb?
>>128671412
It would be better if you dropped dead. But we can't get everything we want.
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>>128667233
NOT
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>>128675027

Benign*
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>>128671790
6 feet over
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>fuck a country up
>escape it
>fuck another country up

City retards, everyone
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>>128675726
>There are literally millions of Muslims in Britain
And every single one is cancer that should be removed.
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>>128668082
Wonder if this has been updated in the last 6 months or so since trump won.

A lot of alt right shootings have happened.
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>>128676132
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>>128667323
>when you have to assure everyone repeatedly that you are human
wew
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>>128667233
i checked and that graph is not an argument
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>>128675726
If you're saying that it's morally right to even out everyone's risk of dying throughout the world, consider that that plan might involve turning the entire planet into a homogeneous shithole. You can't have nice things if you don't have borders.
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>>128666894
Percent of black being shot by whites 0.0003%, therefore we shouldn't care about racist killings.
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>>128667323
>being such a bigot that you think that american life MUST be better than african life

fuck off shit head, /pol/ is an inclusive board that is welcoming to ALL cultures.
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What's the chance of being killed by Nazis or the kkk using their methodology?
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>>128676823
Good goy!
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>>128675726

What makes you think I give a shit about the danger they were in under Gaddafi? And why should I and us as a nation give a shit?

They were Islamist opposition who should've been killed by the Gaddafi regime. It's a shame they weren't.

The world is full of injustice and we can't take in every single bleeding heart case, who are you to choose who gets asylum?

And why should we accept Muslim asylum seekers given the cultural, social and political threat they pose in every country in which they are a growing minority? We don't even need to talk about the terrorist threat to acknowledge how much of a stain they are in whatever countries they reside.

The terrorist threat posed to a country is directly proportional to the amount of Muslims in it. The more Muslims you have, the more potential extremists and then among them the more potential terrorists you have. They're not worrying about these kind of attacks in Tokyo or Buenos Aires.

No one has a divine right to move to and live in this country.

Britain's priority is the safety and prosperity of its own citizens first and foremost. Get that through your thick little head Ahmed/6th form Joe.
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>>128669542
That's a job better left for virile alpha African and Islamic genes. The womenfolk enjoy it too, as evidenced by excess saliva, mucus production, and primitive grunting when beautiful brown baby batter invades their albino wombs.
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>>128666894
fuck you kikes. you die first.
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>>128676709
Kill yourself subhuman
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>>128667932
underrated
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>>128669966
It´s a civilization rape.
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>>128672329
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpYQCd9z3Q
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>>128670903
you think the only people who are people, are the people who think and act like you
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>>128666894
kek'd
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>>128676064

>alt right shootings

fuck off shill. there were racially motivated shootings before trump and, surprise surprise, there are racially motivated shootings after trump. the media is just reporting them on a wider scale now to push their narrative
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>>128666894
LOL 1 IN 3.64 BILLION THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS
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>>128677287
Stop sending emails to Shapiro

It makes no sense at all, just stop
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>>128676960
Now you're just resorting to 'we shouldn't care about them, they aren't part of our group'. This is little better than hedonism. It is deeply anti-civilisation.
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>>128666894
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>>128677739
you're more likely to die from a lightning strike while on rollerskates
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>>128667117
This differs from millions of white trash that does the same?
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>>128678223
you need to make that pic larger anon. It does not convey the message well when one has to squint to see the words.
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>>128678278
3.64

BILLION

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>128677739
this suggests that there has only been 0.5 muslim terror victims in our current generation

I'm not an expert but I think they might have misplaced a period somewhere.
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>>128677321
Get run over by a truck, ahmed
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>>128667932
False equivalence. A post so bad I can just leave this shit website again for a few more months. Hope you're dead when I'm back.
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>>128670795
>fleeing war
please anon tell my why the fuck are 70-80% of "refugees" military aged men?
shouldn't they be fighting this war you speak of?
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>>128677726
Sort of like how you pieces of shit run around and be dicks to muslims every time one goes depressed and murders a bunch of people? kys
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>>128678576
its not
the government should be allowed to stick as many homeless into your house and expect you to take care of them or else youre a bigot
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>>128678627
A better question would be "why did you pass through numerous safe countries to reach the EU?"

if you come THROUGH a safe country then you are coming FROM a safe country, which makes them immigrants, not refugees
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>>128676960

>not wanting to accept Trojan horse into home nation in the name of feel good humanitarianism
>wishing to put the safety and prosperity of own family and friends, and own countrymen/women, above those from a completely alien culture who don't identify with our way of life or share our values, but simply want our gibs
>don't want to pretend that increasing Muslim migration doesn't represent growing social, political and cultural threat to life in the UK as we know it
>this is hedonism and anti-civilisation

You're an actual fuckwit. Please neck yourself.
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>>128678627
look at this noble little guy. I don't know about you, but if a shitload of dudes start using technicals on my city street I'm going to fucking dip, not magically get a gun, training and body armor, a bunch of vehicles, water, food and a team to resist with. No, I'm gonna make sure my wife and kid don't fuckin die. What the fucks wrong with you? Have you ever been to a war?
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>>128679027

Meant for:

>>128678063
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>>128666894
1. You can't make a statistic on the likely hood of something so broad as there are countless factors.
2. This doesn't illustrate the other issues that major migration of refugees pose such as we expect to bring women and children and boat loads of adult men show up.
3. Clearly mass migration is a big problem when you don't have a giant country you can spread the migrants out from. They don't assimilate when they can create entire neighborhoods of their native people.
4. Most people aren't actually scared of just immigrants but things like their cultural beliefs, religious beliefs and political beliefs such as the polls that show how most of the Muslim world feels about women and gays.
>Pic Clearly Related
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>>128679027
Maybe your country should've not gone ahead and made a bunch of borders that make no fucking sense. And maybe mine shouldn't have killed 400,000 civilians in Iraq.

You people are all pussies, whites do far worse to muslims every day. Seriously, get a dick and balls people because this shit's not going away, and no matter what every country's gonna have muslims.
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>>128666894
According to faggot, only approximately three people have ever been killed by a refugee, world wide.
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>>128666894
There's 7billion people On the planet and those got damn mudslimes killed 7 people this weekend odds are better than 1 in a billion.
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>>128678981
>why did you pass through numerous safe countries to reach the EU
because "immigrants" are historically ungrateful assholes and they know places like Italy wont take care of them like Germany and Sweden will
and that's not a better question answer mine
why are 70% of refugees military aged men who should be fighting their own war at their home?
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>>128678627
Your image is extremely misleading. In fact it's lying.
Three quarters of those refugees who reach the Mediterranean may be men. But that's because their families are in other refugee camps, hoping to join their families later. They send the men ahead alone for various reasons.
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>>128679082
>I'm gonna make sure my wife and kid don't fuckin die
By fleeing to another country?
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>>128679082
how about they stay behind and fight and not leave the women and children to be enslaved and used as human shields
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>>128679275

>You people are all pussies, whites do far worse to muslims every day

Kys
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>>128667230
so probably its not?
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>>128666894
terror is designed to intimidate and change your behavior to comply with what the terrorist wants (increased celebration of islam, less criticism of islam), to compare it to something like, let us say, auto crash statistics, loses the plot in a deliberately obtuse way
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>>128666894
I'm not sure how this math works, because I'm actually really shit at math.

Because 1 in 3.64 billion seems like it would have been ruined the moment more than 2 people were killed...

Whatever the case, you can liken it to the "You have a higher chance of being killed by a cow than a shark" or some shit like that... which neglects to remind you that you're chances of being attacked by a shark are pretty much 0 if you never get in the water.
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>>128667323
>GRATEFUL
don't make me laugh
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>>128676823
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>>128670068
>events
Oy Vey goy, you can't trust Wikipedia goy, unless, you know, we want you to.
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>>128679807
being afraid of it in anyway is playing in to the terrorist's hands because they are trying to bluff you into thinking they are more powerful than they are
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>>128678981
Because refugee camps are shit?
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>>128666894
Over what period of time? That """statistic""" means that only 2 people have been killed by refugees ever. Who the fuck makes this?
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>>128679742
They aren't leaving their families behind. That isn't what's happening. You only see the men because they sent the men ahead to Europe.
Their families are in other refugee camps.
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>>128680014
"Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air-conditioned tents sitting empty"
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Lol there are less than a billion people in london and a bunch of em got fucked, so is the argument implying that as long as you're in north america your odds are good?? If so why would we let them in?
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>>128676945
>>128679918
>tone deaf reddit shitters missing the point
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>>128679493
> bbbbutt he is only 12.....he is refugee from some -stan

ayy fuck it I cant stand this stupidity, Im just tired of this shit, history repeats itself indeed. Enlightened people. Such a BS, they didn't study Troy history at all.
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>>128680360
explain yourself faggit
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>>128666894
Where do they even get that statistic from? Approximately speaking it would mean that only 2 people in the world have been killed by refugees which makes no fucking sense
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>>128679968
>Muslims
>kill dopey white people
>Dopey white people response:
>IT'S PARTY TIME!
i'm pretty sure celebrating our own conquest and destruction like innocent sheep plays into their hands, rather than not letting them in like Poland
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>>128680238
Nah man, you can't use reality as an argument, you can only speak here in convoluted meme talk.
>>128680141
The picture is retarded, but it's incredibly unlikely that you will become unsafe by providing humanitarian aid and refugee status for people caught up in a warzone or famine. Unstable regions are where terrorist regimes ferment, by using the security apparatus of the United States the planet can actually be salvaged into a better place. But go on everyone and waste the Earth on some "brown people are scary" shit.

>>128678857
If you listen to people that are this retarded you are barely alive.
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>>128680605
>leftists always promote multiculti bullshit
>leftists think migrating AWAY from their home towards another is better
>leftists are displaying cognitive dissonance by implying that america is better than all of africa, yet they promote multiculturalism
>leftists admitting that african life is inferior without consciously being aware of it

tl;dr - lefty hypocrisy
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>>128680313
I'm not trying to live in a Saudi Arabian refugee camp. FUCK THAT, if that were operational it'd be a mafia-run shithole that you would almost certainly die in.
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>>128666894
"the only bad thing that can happen if we let regufees in, is a terrorist attack"
the picture is retarded in so many ways I cant even begin to put them all together

first off even if you understood how percentages work. which you dont. you are literally saying

"it doesnt matter as long as its not me"
because someone dies even if its not you
thats very liberal of you

also you are not taking into account all the other bad things that happen when you let immigrants into your country
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>>128680950
Nothing is so special about American life except for the fact that there is multiculturalism. There won't be a race war here because enough people support people of other races that are their neighbors and friends. Genetic diversity also equals genetic strength. Your family probably is a bunch of dumbass inbred rednecks, but far more aren't.
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>>128680313
They aren't taking refugees.
And living in an air-conditioned tent is still shit.
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>>128666894
Now what are the chances of me personally reaping any benefit from my taxes going toward refugee gibs?
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>>128680876
The fact that you think telling these people out of warzones somehow civilises them, or that the ones fleeing now are all peace seeking innocent families is hilarious. I'm actually a non Muslim middle easterner whose family left the middle east years ago specifically because of Islam. Please tell me more about how Muslims from that part of the world act. I'm sure you have lots of insightful experience to share. Tell me more about how ones in the west that were born in the west don't radicalize, despite the fact that I see it happen all the time. I'm sure you know all about it.
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>>128681281
If you let little kids die in a warzone, you're saying "better you than me" except for America we have the resources to expend no problem and every family saved from war is a family unlikely to become a problem for American interests down the road. Syria for example has world class cities and a shitload of skilled workers we could import that'd be glad to get to work.
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>>128678281
Those people are trash too. Do you think we should add to that number?
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>>128667323
>"grateful", "skilled", "compessionate", "human"

cant decide which is the most ridiculous
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>>128681523
get nuked again faggot
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>>128681644
The whole fucking point was that people are skeptical based on national origin and ethnicity. God damn do poor Americans hate the poor.
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>>128676619
I understand that you are just memeing, but one of the important things to consider when digesting the fact that a significant portion of Muslims justify terrorism is that, although they are not the ones directly committing the attacks, they act as the support base for the terrorists. Although not all Muslims are terrorists, too many Muslims offer both moral and financial support to terrorists, which speaks to the dangerous nature of the ideology.
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>>128681724
Uh oh, looks like instead defending the literal bullshit you were spewing earlier, you decided to make an offensive joke, but forgot that you're not smart enough to be witty or funny.
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>>128679027
>in the name of humanitarianism
Why is humanitarianism a dirty word? Is it because you hate most of humanity? I think it is. Look what your racist ideology has done to you.

>wishing to put the safety and prosperity of own family and friends, and own countrymen/women, above those from a completely alien culture
The Mafia also put their own family first. It's not a perfect excuse. You don't get to just care about yourself and your friends. You need to care about everyone. This is morality.
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>>128681281
t. reddit
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All these goddamn, rich fuck assholes want to bring people into this country for nothing. Then even more, rich fuck assholes...want too keep them out. While We, the people, foot the bill. Either way, Ieveryone is paying to view this shit on cable. So fuck it, let more poor people in, where can I sign up, can I be a refugee? I'm poor, I'm scraping by. Why not. Maybe I'm first world poor. Yea, where I have enough money to enjoy this rich place, but I have no money left over from basic expenses other people make money off of. we pay for the water to literally come to our mouths. Is it greed? Is it...boredom?
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>>128666894
Bullshit statistics are everywhere man, I don't believe that for a second, besides, they do other things you know? Lik raping, robbing, rioting, assault etc... I that said chances of being attacked by a refugee the number would be a lot higher, or not, because it would be made up too.
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>>128681610
you logic is faulty
"If you let little kids die in a warzone, you're saying 'better you than me' "
the warzone and children getting killed is because of that, a war. which was set in motion by people that have nothing to do with me.
they should resolve the issue by facing the ones responsible
you on the other hand would rather do what the media tells you to do.
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>>128667323
propaganda to mix europe with niggers and create the new negroid race . i fucking hope hitler comes back
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>>128682020
i just think you're lying. yes refugees are a big fucking problem. I can't justify leaving human beings to die in combat or of famine though, even if there are security risks. The long-run risks are exacerbated when you sit on your hands and do nothing while the world is watching.
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>>128682085
>Why is humanitarianism a dirty word? Is it because you hate most of humanity? I think it is. Look what your racist ideology has done to you.

Humanitarianism is good. Charity is good. When those things are forced upon you. they are not good. Consent is required. Looks at what your rapist ideology has done to you.
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>>128666894
Well, statistically yes, but depending on where you live you may have a better chance of being struck by lightning.
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>>128681319
triggered leftist retard who can't handle the fact that he got called out for being a hypocrite detected. fuck off back to your safe space, kid. men are talking.
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>1 POST BY THIS ID

Well, you're a faggot
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>>128670795
fuck you stupid godamn jew mohter fucker
fuck that stupid bullshit

no no that picture is wrong you only push communism in it, hoping people believe an idea about being smart and then fall for your godamn bullshit
that controlling more people
counting more
MEANS ANYTHING ABOUT BEING SMART
you should be killed
spreading your shit about communism
when you dont know anything abou9t intelligence
nigger
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>>128666894
>using this image to mock banning muslims
>he gets the fucking girl in the end defying the odds

How fucking retarded are you?
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>>128666894
oh look its another MUSLIM BASH THREAD
conviently WHILE ALL THE TIME WHILE JEWS ARE COMMITING TERRORISM IN PALESTINE
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>>128670795

>the problem is over attachment to the past
>idolising commies that rekt their countries
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>>128682288
Yes, my basic human empathy is just because "the media." Christ, you people are fucking creepy. The United States has the power to evacuate people from a warzone without becoming directly involved in the conflict. They have the ability to deliver water and lifesaving rations anywhere in the world. Most of what the Army does is humanitarian aid missions anyways, I don't see what the big fucking deal is here as to why nothing is being done about Aleppo and Damascus.
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terrorism aside, refugees commit more murder than native citizens. you have a much higher chance being killed by a refugee.

most importantly, we don't want sand niggers. they have their own country. why do they want to escape from their fellow sand niggers?
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>>128681319
"Genetic diversity also equals genetic strength"
-someone who has never read a book on molecular biology 2017

read a book before you spill out your buzzfeed articles as factual data. genetics is far more complicated than that. just because inbreeding causes "problems" (I say "problems" because you probably can't even begin to name two of them without using your precious google) doesn't mean interracial breeding makes you superior.
I would explain it to you but just like your right winger counterparts, facts are wasted on you because you can only think in political views.
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>>128682748
No, at the end of Dumb and Dumber both of the main characters ended up with no girls. Remember when they didn't get on the bus with all the babes? I swear to god you all come up with your own gay realities and match them up against each other all day.
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>>128682840

Why should we prevent sand niggers from killing each other? That's what they love to do. We should help them in killing.
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>>128682840
basic human empathy? you are stupid

if you just sat through a documentary about how your community got fucked up by the immigrant flowing into your country then you would be preaching the exact opposite
so yes, your feelings are shaped by the media
because they showed you a little kid that drowned god knows why and told you it was because of the big bad war
try using facts and logical thinking instead of moral judgement and feelings

and if you don't
you should have more empathy for your own community than some niggers that have far less empathy for you and some would rape your mother without a second thought
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>>128682882
lol, you just come on 4chan to feel superior to others. i am very not worried about your assessment of where I'm coming from.

America is special because so many cultures live here and there is free exchange of ideas. All sorts of cool cultural shit has happened because of the genetic diversity in the united states. you can go to a marketplace and hang out by the bus stop and meet people from literially everywhere on earth. lots of people have lived great lives in the US because of the genetic diversity here. metaphorically, diversity is built into the genetic code of the united states.

anyways all your mothers are whores and this website is why girls don't talk to you.
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>>128681384
>living in an air-conditioned tent is still shit.
its better than a tent with no ac
and a tent is better than living in rubble
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>>128683277
Idiot. Basic human empathy is why he cares for the girls in a warzone.
Your position is not to care for them at all because 'it's not my fault'.
Pay attention
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>>128682337
I'm not lying, you're just a fucking idiot who doesn't understand anything he's taking about. Go talk to any 40+ year old Christian Lebanese person and ask them how they feel about Islam and refugees.
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>>128667323
Why can't they fix their own shitty places?
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>>128666894
Statistics like this are basically useless. I have virtually no chance of being killed by a refugee, because there aren't any anywhere close to me. You can't give me the statistical odds of beating eaten by a shark if I never swim in the ocean, its a pointless aggregation. I do, however, care about the much higher chance of people living near refugees getting killed by them and would appreciate if they weren't put in that risk.
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>>128684166
Because the US destroys all stable governments who try to make their country better so that it's easier to exploit the people as cheap disposable labour.
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>>128673446
I would love to see these monkey buckets get torpedoed
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Oh boy, time to compile the murder rate per year in UK/France and make statistics of terrorists attacks. Coming back eventually.
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>>128666894

>hundreds in europe dead from terrorist attacks
>Europe population ~1 billion
>chance to die in terrorist attack 1/3.64 billion

well that maths certainly works out (if you're a retarded downie leftist shill)
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>>128666894
I dont care if they're all doctors and lawyers, I don't want them here. This is not their country, it never will be. Unless you want to pay for the tracking and information systems to ensure they all go home at the end of the war....MAYBE.....but they can be resettled nearby for much cheaper. So no. I really dont care what arguments they make, you can't keep the puppy you found timmy.
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Chance of being lied to by a kike-human: 10/10
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>>128666894
>Only two people have been killed by refugees in the last couple decades
I highly highly highly doubt that. I am sure nuns and people missing two or more limbs kill more than that many people per capita.
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>>128671399
>if I don't like the person presenting the information, it's false

xd
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>>128666894
You're right mass immigration is a great thing even though there's not enough jobs for the people here right now.

These people are going to integrate into our society, despite being told by the media we hate them, and they don't hold backwards beliefs.

And Germany and Sweden are not experiencing issues with the migrants sexually assaulting their women.

And let's not forget that terrorism is not a significant problem for countries with refugees, even though 2 occurred in London the last 2 weeks. Quote it's "no cause for concern."
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>>128680876
you make these claims of the women and children being left in these camp, give some empirical evidence of this then. There is already countless reports of roving bands of migrant men wandering the streets of European cities causing trouble and committing crime, not to mention that almost 90% of them are unemployed, so if they left their families behind in a foreign land to go ahead without them, what the hell are they sitting on their asses for?
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>>128686961
So basically you get your news from /pol/ and Breitbart then complain when you have no idea what's happening
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>>128687170
why didn't you answer the question, where is the proofs?
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>>128675862
AN
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>>128667699
Frontline citizen defense when?
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>>128687422
I think this will show you
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php
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>>128667323
Why does this make me horny?
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I don't know what's so confusing. Trump cultists don't understand math.
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if these muslims were so peaceful, why would they need to flee their muslim countries?
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>>128688005
The camps are still majority male, so that means they even more men then what are in the camps now have already left, and given the muslim practice of taking multiple wives, that means that said numbers should be even less then what they are
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>>128689160
Look at their ages.
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>>128666894
>Failing to realize the statistic covers the entirety of western civilization which, on average, has mostly insignificant amounts of refugees in the populations at the current moment
>failing to understand that the mindset of the right wing is preventative when dealing with refugees who have overwhelmingly predictable and violent behavior
>Implying that refugees are anything other than 79% male and ages 12-35, who are coming from war torn countries with no standing laws or traditions outside of the core beliefs of Islam as stated in their ancient, and un-modernized religious articles, all while being expected to assimilate perfectly into modern society

Your argument: Implying that the odds of being killed by a shark while swimming in their tank is the same as fucking around on land on a regular day
B8 r8: 5/8 m8
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>>128667323
that is war is peace tier ingsoc propaganda
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>>128667323
>my country has left me to rot
>better fill it with 300 million Africans, they deserve it
This is why I don't care about being a manchild
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>>128670551

>walk outside; your chances of something bad happening is extremely low

>hurr russian roulette

see your problem now?
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>>128670795
Egoism is by definition the most beneficial system of morality to me. Logically, I shouldn't care about anyone but myself so long as the consequences of their suffering do not interfere with my life.

In the case of refugees, them starving where they live is much less negatively impactful than them coming to where I live. It's the most intelligent course of action to halt their immigration at all costs.
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>>128675750

considering once the middle east stabilizes and there is a rebuilding of persia or egypt. shit will be pretty comfy. mezos however will always be human sacrificing animals. doos valt the middle east now to bring it back to glory. then build a wall around south america
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>>128690305
>http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php
they're combat age
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>gun sales are at record highs...thanks muzzies.
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>>128669733
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>>128691146
>I know I'm a selfish prick but I don't want to feel guilty
>I know, I'll create a moral system where being a selfish prick is allowed or even encouraged
Nice try, but everyone will hate you because they know you are subversive and undermine civilization.
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the chance on london bridge yeterday was about 100%
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>>128670795
>Stalin and Mao
>Enlightened Elite
Hahahaha, they fucking killed BILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
>Muh bigotry
THEY ALSO KILLED FAGGOTS.

Seriously I am fucking sick of seeing dirty commies having this whole fucking moral superiority complex, WHEN NEARLY EVERY SINGLE COMMUNIST REGIME HAS HAD A GENOCIDE.
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>>128691424
Half of them are women.
Half of the males are under 18.
This is clearly the group which has been left in the camps by the men, who have come to Europe.
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>>128692168
>now it's BILLIONS
Jesus Christ, does it never stop?
Yesterday Stalin killed 20 million and Mao killed about 40 million and there was barely a single scrap of evidence for that. Except declining population growth based on the idea that birth rates stayed the same
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>>128692511
>half are under 18

are you special?
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>>128679777
The other 4/5 is that it's partially made up.
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>>128666894
Notice how they write "Refugees" instead of Muslims because then the number is lower.
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>>128692674
Don't bother. Americans are so deluded about Stalin and Mao it's incredible.
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>>128684400
Is that why we destroyed Hungary? Poland? Malaysia? Thailand? Kazakhstan?
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>>128666894
>1 post by this ID
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>>128678281
thats not the point, people like to live around there own. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?

People are different, I didn't realize how fucking subjective that is
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>>128693102
t. Michael Xhang from Toronto
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>>128667323
>desirable
cuck
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>>128691787
>I know I'm cuckold prick but I don't want to feel like a faggot
>I know, I'll create a moral system were being a faggot is allowed or even encouraged

>implying that your mix and matched moral systems that are for some abstract concept like "societal benefit" are any less subversive or do any less to undermine civilization

Being in good thought, I understand that society does not necessarily share my agenda and that society might punish me for subverting them. You can lie to people and cheat all you want as long as it's for something like "the greater good". In fact, you lie about your moral system in this anonymous conversation, because you already follow a system built around your will, it just so happen that your will also entails a kind of virtue signalling that makes other people think you're a "good" person.

Also, there's good evidence that I'm not selfish since I'm advocating that everyone does what's in their own interests rather than the interests of me. I think everyone, not just me, would be better off if they understood the reality rather than work toward some kind of phony moral imperative.
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>>128693753
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>>128666894
It is 100000000 times likely to be killed in traffic than being killed by a shark. Conclusion: Sharks are not dangerous.
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>>128666894

Yea RIGHT NOW. Let in a few more million and watch those chances raise.
I mean I wonder what the odds of dying from terrorism in the middle east is. I'd imagine it's pretty high since that shit goes on almost every day. But then, those countries are chalk full of Muslims aren't they.
And thus we see a correlation.
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wtf i love "refugees" now
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>>128666894
Agree, chances of being killed by a refugee are low. I see the monetary side. The state is enriching itself by bringing in large numbers of people already dependent on the government. We are bankrupt, 42 million on food stamps. If we help anyone it needs to be those already here. Let them live in there country and we shall live in ours. Why are only European countries being forced to take refugees? When will Israel and Saudi Arabia take some?
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>>128672579
>>128678281
>Muh millions of white trailer trash.
We can create jobs for those people. It is impossible to make use of people that can't even read latin letters.
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Has anyone done the math to find out what the odds really are? Using manchester alone the odds are closer to one in 350 million. I'd love to have some accurate numbers to find out how the odds have been trending over the past few years
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>>128666894
I agree, OP. I support the refugees 100%
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>>128666894
OP your disreguarding the fact that anyone who has watch monitored or looked into ISIS or any of these groups or even the fucking leaders of these religions, PREACH. fucking PREACH TO INVADE THE WEST AND OUT BREED AND TO TAKE ALL THE HAND OUTS TO BANKRUPT THE HOST COUNTRY. to force their beliefs and to invade.

This is why we don't want these people.
THEY, WILL, NOT, ASSIMILATE. its that simple.

come to america, the melting pot. become american. YOU LEAVE YOUR BULLSHIT BEHIND. its what makes you an american. THIS IS NOT WHATS BEING TAUGHT by these religious leaders.


from the fucking horses mouth
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/02/18/prominent-muslim-cleric-collect-govt-welfare-as-a-jihad-seekers-allowance/
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>>128692674
>and there was barely a single scrap of evidence for that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
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>>128694340
You have a SIGNIFICANTLY higher chance of being called in a robbery or stray bullet from daily violence for sure. Not a statement on gun control. I support 2nd Amendment and I also welcome refugees who's homes were destroyed and family were killed. Can you even fucking imagine?
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>>128673446
mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xiWw5dwngc
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>>128680605
>faggit
underage
mods please ban
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>>128666894
pretty narcissistic.

terrorism doesn't matter because it doesn't happen to me?
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>>128692674
>there was barely a single scrap of evidence for that
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>>128667323
niggers aren't human. kys
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>>128691019

Now what if I told you that for easy votes your politicians were doubling your chances of being a victim of violent crime? Sure it's double a small value, but it still means that every year, twice as many people are now victims of violent crime and the only benefit is more votes for someone.
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That can't be the case if you narrow it down to just Western Europe.
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>>128694463
>The Blaze
Biased and not credible.
The Muslims I go to school with are pretty chill and very in-touch with Western culture; they have assimilated quite well so I don't think Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western culture. I think these refugees are fleeing from the very things that pushed ISIS and Assad's theocracy onto them. I welcome refugees and all religions into my community. (Tucson is pretty diverse that way anyways) Not trying to start a war, just trying to be less angry in debates.
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>>128693947
People actually believe in the greater good of humanity. You really are worse than the average person, because you only care about yourself.
If everyone was like you, society would be a much worse place to live.
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>>128666894
Now calculate the chances of being

>Maimed
>Wounded
>Assaulted
>Robbed
>Intimidated
>Harassed
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>>128678750
>run around and be dicks
Your definition of what a dick is differs from the rest of anyone who isn't a nigger
>goes depressed
Please show proof that every muslim was depressed

You literally just admitted to a connection between moderate and extreme islam kiddo even if depression isnt much of a factor
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>>128667699
That's horrific. That's almost 1000% of the soldiers that died in WW2. 10 fucking times the amount of men who died FIGHTING in the deadliest war in millitary history. And they're coming. They're coming right the fuck at us.
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>>128666894
what people dont realize is that mass migration is bad, even if the migrants have merits


if they dont
they are drains

if they do
you're hurting the host country

it is a lose lose
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>>128694544
>I support 2nd Amendment and I also welcome refugees who's homes were destroyed and family were killed. Can you even fucking imagine?
And refugees who's homes did not get destroyed and family were not killed? Do you not welcome them, or did you only phrase your post that way to win sympathy for your views?
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>>128669198
wtf I love Sweden now
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>>128671399
>le PEW Research
faggot
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>>128666894
>1 in 3.64 billion
Are you telling me only two people have been killed by refugees?
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>>128666894

The fact that it is even happening at all should be an outrage.

>inb4 what about non-Muzzie mass shootings

Anybody who thinks that the murder of some innocent people can be justifiable is mentally ill. Difference is that there isn't a sect of the population who purposely radicalize non-Muzzie mass shooters (besides maybe some /rk9/ satire). Almost all of them acted upon their own accord or got inspired by the medua's glorification of a previous shooter.
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>>128666894

1 in 3.64 Billion chance of being killed by refugee...

Okay lets crunch these numbers.

In 2001 the US had a population of 285 million.

3,000 American's died in the 9/11 attacks.

On that 1 day alone 1 in 95,000 American's was killed by "refugees".

Just counting that single day alone the chances of being killed by refugees is significantly higher than that photo.
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>>128666894
There is a higher chance of being killed by a refugee than winning the lottery. Maybe people should stop buying tickets and stay out of public spaces.
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>>128694538
Estimates on the number of deaths brought about by Stalin's rule are hotly debated by scholars in the field of Soviet and communist studies.[55][56] The published results vary depending on the time when the estimate was made, on the criteria and methods used for the estimates, and sources available for estimates. Some historians attempt to make separate estimates for different periods of the Soviet history, with casualties for the Stalinist period varying from 8 to 61 million

>8 to 61 million
>8
>to 61
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>>128694926
>The muslims I go to school with
Getting banned on 4chan 101
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>>128676064
>A lot of alt right shootings have happened
I remember reading about the Alt-Right firing squads that would gather protesters and dump their bodies in mass graves. I think it was on CNN somewhere.
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And rising
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>>128666894
>See image.
>Just over the past 30 days many from Europe alone have been killed by refugees.
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>>128666894
put it this way; if you're about to die, there's a higher chance it's due to terrorism
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>>128695207
I've seen the videos posted by firsthand accounts. They've all lost so much, I've seen fathers and mothers crying over their children who died in a war they wanted no part of. I've seen two nurses wearing hijabs crying and trying to comfort each other over the body of the infant in their ward who died in an airstrike. A whole in his head where his brains used to be. Hospitals weren't supposed to be targeted under treaties. People not affected by the war coming here? I'd find that hard pressed to find, and even less likely they'd earn refugee status.
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>>128695367
The 911 attackers weren't refugees though.
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>>128695424
Is this a joke? You have shot up mosques and churches and you've stabbed random people on trains
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>>128666894
I dont want brown people in my country whether they want to kill me or not
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>>128666894
>only 2 people have ever been killed by refugees
Hmmmm
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>>128695692
The only thing that would make this better is if you actually believe this shit.
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>>128695377
I am glad you read the article, but this does not win the argument. Clearly there is evidence of mass murders, and not just birth decline, which was how you explained it. You can't just make up your own truth.
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>>128679610
Yes. This is very dangerous trip.
>Take a boat and go waiting few miles from shore.
>Human traffickers will pick you up.
>Pay the trip
>Profit?

95% of these "refugees" are not really people in need.
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I think a large part of the confusion stems from radicalized nationals, or terrorists entering the country like the 9/11 hijackers being labeled as "refugees" when they just aren't.
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>>128667323
God the Mediterranean is so beautiful. I need to move out of the states.
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>>128666894
How many times must I say it-
I don't want Muslim refugees to be banned from entering this country because I think I will get killed by a Muslim extremeist refugee

I want them banned because I do not want non Americans with completely different cultures and lifestyles assimilating with the great people that live here
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>>128695611
>I've seen the videos posted by firsthand accounts. They've all lost so much, I've seen fathers and mothers crying over their children who died in a war they wanted no part of. I've seen two nurses wearing hijabs crying and trying to comfort each other over the body of the infant in their ward who died in an airstrike. A whole in his head where his brains used to be. Hospitals weren't supposed to be targeted under treaties.
This is besides the point, and only serves to provoke an emotional response to your argument.
>People not affected by the war coming here?
Not what I said.
>I'd find that hard pressed to find, and even less likely they'd earn refugee status.
Now you are debating your own straw man.

Why do people continue towards Europe after being safe in Turkey? They are perfectly safe there. See, your argument is that the primary motivation of the refugees is to seek safety, but this is clearly not the case when they do anything in their power not to get registered in Italy so that they can apply for asylum in northern Europe. The people that are located in Eastern Europe move back to Turkey. I'ts a fucking scam, and you know it.
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>>128677321
T. Nigger
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>>128695785
If the evidence is so good, why do estimates vary all the way from 8 to 61 million?
And I really meant the number
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>>128666894
actually 1 in 2
you are either killed by a terrorist
or not
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>>128666894
One percent of 1.3 billion is 13 million. That's the same number of people who served in the German Army in WW2. So, we're facing a foe as great as the Nazis.
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>>128695963
This is not true. German intelligence has prevented numerous terrorist attacks. The official statement from European authorities is that there are members of ISIS among the Syrian refugees. It is not speculation, this is the official information.
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>>128696394
Is 8 million not enough?
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>>128695692
Dylan Roof was two years ago. Keep going to that well
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What percentage of migrants are actually refugees though?
Most of them are just muslim migrants
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>>128696787
The Paris attacks were two years ago
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>>128696132
This.

Leftie arguments are invalid.
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>>128696216
I didn't mean to attack a straw man. My brain switched some words around when I read your reply. You asked my if I support refugees who weren't affected by the war coming here. My answer is: No, I don't. Only people displaced by warfare can be defined as refugees. All others not affected by war or seeking asylum should not be granted refugee status and must emigrate through other legal channels. You may argue that I am ignorant, but I truly believe what I have said to you and I stand by it, so please don't say that "It's a fucking scam and you know it." Because I don't. I know about the Pen-Seller of Beirut, I have never heard of refugees refusing to be registered in Italy. I haven't heard of refugees in Eastern E. moving back to Turkey. I truly haven't. When such a massive migration occurs, it's only natural that such huge amounts of people have to spread out across the continent instead of staying in Turkey. One could argue it isn't perfectly safe their either. Turkey often turns over refugees to other countries and has little institutions in place to protect these displaced people. Millions more never set foot in Turkey, instead landing in Southern Europe via the Mediterranean. Do you see my point? Refugee is a word that carries serious implications. I only stand to minimize human suffering. Do you see where I am coming from?
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>>128696132
And fair enough.
Why would anyone mass import a foreign, often hostile ideology that is radically different than the host country unless you intended to destroy the foundations of the host country.
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>>128667230
Considering the world population and the fact that more than 3 people have been killed by a refugee in the past year, yeah, this statistic is not only false but disproved with about 3 seconds of thinking.
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>>128697305
>I have never heard of refugees refusing to be registered in Italy.
According to the Dublin agreement, refugees must be return to the country they were first registered and apply for asylum there. If their fingerprints are registered in Greece or Italy they get returned there, that is why they all smuggle themselves to northern Europe. It is not illegal to apply for asylum in Europe, nor should it ever be. But they refuse to use normal border passages in order to avoid being registered. When Hungary build it's border fence, it was not to keep out the refugees, but to have them enter the country legally.

>I haven't heard of refugees in Eastern E. moving back to Turkey.
I am sorry for this mistake. What I am referring to is refugees returning to Afghanistan after European authorities relocate them in eastern Europe. The reason for relocation is to distribute the refugees so that countries like Greece, Italy, Germany and Sweden does not receive all the refugees.

>When such a massive migration occurs, it's only natural that such huge amounts of people have to spread out across the continent instead of staying in Turkey.
I support this if it is done legally. The refugees that are able to smuggle themselves to Europe are the most resourceful. Most of the children are sponsored by their parents to travel to Europe because it is much more easy to get asylum for a lonely child than for adults traveling with or without children. Later they can apply for family reunion. This is why European authorities now grant a time warranted asylum for groups that would normally not receive asylum that expires once they reach the age of 18.

1/2
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>>128698111
Grats on trips. Arguing over the internet with strangers sure is an interesting thing. About your first point. Do you mean to tell me that refugees arrive in Southern Europe and then smuggle themselves to Northern Europe because it's better there?
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>>128697305
>One could argue it isn't perfectly safe their either.
It does not qualify for asylum.
>Turkey often turns over refugees to other countries and has little institutions in place to protect these displaced people.
The EU has an agreement with Turkey to take many of it's refugees in an organized and not chaotic manner.
>Millions more never set foot in Turkey, instead landing in Southern Europe via the Mediterranean.
Most of which are economic migrants from Africa. The Syrian risk their lives crossing the ocean from Turkey to Greece. Why can they not just cross the official border passage into Europe? It is not illegal to apply for asylum in Europe.

>Do you see my point? Refugee is a word that carries serious implications. I only stand to minimize human suffering. Do you see where I am coming from?
I agree that we should not abandon the principle of refuge, but the refugees need to follow the official procedure. Use normal border passages and apply for asylum once they reach safety.

2/2
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>>128666894
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>>128698648
I think the legal process takes too long for these people. Applying for asylum could take years or more. Near certain death or suffering at home or risk it all to cross the sea. Refugeeism is a legal and special status for entering countries under the Geneva convention, and other international treaties. The Geneva convention actually demands that all those who signed it accept refugees in times of war.
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