How do you guys view the ordeal that was going on in Crimea?

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However President Manlet tells me to view it. Literally based!

>>128667065
Thanks...

>>128667065
Didn't know Bill Maher was related to Putin.

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>>128666434
The people there overwhelmingly voted to secede. It's pretty fucking cut and dry really.

Democracy won the day. Get over it.

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>>128667459
The nose knows

>>128666434
It was democratic, which makes it legitimate.
Ukraine didn't get what it wanted, which is fine.
The EU didn't get what it wanted, which is brilliant.
For some reason lefties shill these two desires being denied as properly fascist and anti-democratic.
Funny that.

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>>128667502
>>128667698
120% voted for it! Epic win epic win!

>>128667698
Would you also count the Azov battalion as a reason for why Crimea should stay with Russia?

>>128667746
Reminds me of Clinton's popular vote thing and how that didn't matter.
Funny that.

>>128667502
I'm not trying to disagree, but you do have to understand that the crimean citizens were under duress.

>large russian military rolls up to your door
>tells you to vote yes
>Ukraine in middle of civil war, will not protect you

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>>128667998
>aardappel compares American elections to Russian ones

Kek

>>128668015
It's understandable to think that, but have you seen the situation in Donbass?

Russia got Sovastapol, achieving total naval supremacy in the area. Fantastic piece of geopolitics by Putin.

>>128668208
Tiny Putin it's to damn qt.

It reminds me of wang wang the phillipine midget.

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>>128668472
Moar you say?

>>128666434

What ordeal? Crimea has always been Russian. Some dipshit "gives" it away on a lark doesn't negate the fact that it was and is Russian.

>>128668614
I know that may be a fact, but there are bigger reasons as to why they annexed it.

>>128666434
AK-74 GL ACOG?
Would buy two or three if I could.

>>128666434
Rightful Russian clay.

>>128667998
Won the popular vote? Of the illegal racist beaners?

>>128666434
Nobody cares about hohols or squatshits, Not even human beings.

>>128667065
Sup sharia blue/CIA/US mil?

>was

Is.

>>128668288
>Russia got Sovastapol, achieving total naval supremacy in the area. Fantastic piece of geopolitics by Putin.

Not really. It was reactive. Some force, maybe the CIA or George Soros, I don't know, put up the money and organization to overthrow the democratically elected government of Russia's neighbour, so that a anti-Russian government could be set up that would join NATO and the EU.

Russia is a powerful country that is strong enough to have its own small sphere of influence. The Americans are trying to extend their hegemonic power over the entire world. Ukraine becoming a Western puppet is very bad for Russia. It is better for global stability that a small buffer zone between Western powers and Russia.

With the overthrow of the elected government in Ukraine, Putin has done well to mitigate the damage. He has secured the Crimea so that the government in Kiev cannot cut off Rostov on the Don from the Black Sea and thus Russian naval force's access to the oceans. There will also be a new buffer state made out of eastern Ukraine with alignment towards Russia.

It's not a better situation than before, but he has done very well to control the damage.

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>>128666434
Give that shithole to Russia.

>>128670542
Donbass probably is an example of why Crimea should stay with Russia for the time being.

>>128671304
>Donbass probably is an example of why Crimea should stay with Russia for the time being.

Russia is going to want Crimea as Russian territory and Donbass as an independent buffer state for strategic reasons. It's just common sense.

Everything was great with Russia when President Bush was in charge. Russia was never a problem until someone came along to try and fuck it in the ass.

>>128672149
Have you not seen it, they got Azov, some Neo-Nazi "nationalist" group literally funded by a jew going around arresting people in the area.

>>128670542

>http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-20/leaked-memo-proves-soros-ruled-ukraine-2014-minutes-%E2%80%9Cbreakfast-us-ambassador-pyatt%E2%80%9D

Leaked Memo Proves Soros Ruled Ukraine In 2014: Minutes From "Breakfast With US Ambassador Pyatt"

We noted in a previous post how important Ukraine was to George Soros, with documents from DC Leaks that show Soros, and his Open Society NGO, scouring the Greek media and political landscape to push the benefits of his Ukraine coup upon a Russian leaning Greek society.

Now more documents, in the massive 2,500 leaked tranche, show the immense power and control Soros had over Ukraine immediately following the illegal Maidan government overthrow.

Soros and his NGO executives held detailed and extensive meetings with just about every actor involved in the Maidan coup: from US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, to Ukraine’s Ministers of Foreign Affairs, Justice, Health, and Education.

The only person missing was Victoria Nuland, though we are sure those meeting minutes are waiting to see the light of day.

Plans to subvert and undermine Russian influence and cultural ties to Ukraine are a central focus of every conversation. US hard power, and EU soft power, is central towards bringing Ukraine into the neo-liberal model that Soros champions, while bringing Russia to its economic knees.

Soros' NGO, International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) plays a key role in the formation of the “New Ukraine”…the term Soros frequently uses when referring to his Ukraine project.

>>128672623
So it's either the globalist eu, or Russia.

>>128672149
>Everything was great with Russia when President Bush was in charge.
You might have missed the colour revolutions, and the Georgian war, and the missile shield, and the NATO expansion, and the Iraq invasion opposed by Russia.
Need I go on?
Of course it's fine yo you when Russia doesn't speak up.

>>128670542
You don't need CIA and Soros for that, Yanukovich was shit. Poroshenko isn't better, but you only need a small minority in Kiev riled up to spark a revolution. And Kiev has always leaned more towards the West.

>>128673066
So did Georgia start the war, or was it you guys? Try to be honest with me.

>>128672149
Ask Georgia.

>>128666434
we were shitposting like nothing else
remember that this happened in 2014 and it was one of the biggest happenings to date

>>128673359
They did, but our response was disproportional to the amount of aggression exerted by Georgia. Pretty much what the EU report concluded, and it makes sense.

>>128666434
I hope we can ally with the Russians and then totally fuck up the middle East and the fucking kikes. I respect Putin and Russia.

>>128673808
I wouldn't go that far with them, remember Chechnya and Dagestan still exist.

>>128672149
And of course that somebody was a nigger. Imagine that.

>>128667746
>>128667585
>>128667065
>>128668208
>>128668578
spotted the ukrainian shill

>>128673961
Good point anon. Thanks.

>>128670215
Actual Russian shill detected

Also Crimea is legit Ukrainian clay, and Ukraine is American clay. You faggots have about a year until we make you give it back

>>128674276
I gotta say, the Ukrainians living outside of the country seem to still believe the Russians are committing genocide.

>>128667502
Thinking the elections were legitimate
>being this naive

>>128666434
It was fair

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>>128666434
Imagine for a moment we lived in a militarily adventurous nation interested in protecting the interests of the majority

>>128667746
UN polling for several years prior to the vote showed the vast majority in favour.

>>128674663
Situation is going better than in Donbass...

>>128674663
>being paid to post on 4chan

>>128674899
97% voting in favour is not a legitimate result, just as how Putin and his party get 99% of votes in Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia. There was a tatar minority not in favour of the annexation.
Still, a legit vote would still have yielded the same result, but with less decisive numbers.

>>128675387
Well isn't Putin trying to make Chechnya a nice place so the muslims stop being terrorists?

>>128666434

It seems pretty reasonable to me. Crimea has been under Russian control for most of the past few centuries

Worry about the rest of Ukraine, things are going way better in Crimea than they are there.

>>128675677
No, he doesn't give a shit. They rebuilt the Grozny city centre for propaganda photos and called it a day, the rest is a dirt poor shithole. Like one Chechen anon once pointed out here once, half of the generous funding for the region gets stolen by Russian officials, another half gets pocketed by Kadyrov, local warlods and clan leaders, people get jack shit. He is allowed to do whatever he wants in his sandbox, as long as extremism and separatism is harshly cracked down on.

>>128666434
I view it as not being my problem or concern. Additionally if the US government is mixed up on something over there they need to cut it the fuck out.

>>128676378
Well do you want Chechnya fixed or all muslims gone?

>>128667502

This.

>>128675387
>>128675289
Told from an actual Russian yet i get paid to post lol

>>128676647
Chechnya can't be fixed. We can't let go of them, because they'll turn into a local wing of ISIS at this point, we can't do anything to them, because it will trigger muslims in other regions like Tatarstan and muslim allies like Iran. And they certainly don't have what it takes to be a nice, developed republic.

>>128677065
Also, is the whole gay purge thing actually happening there?

>>128676647
And send them where? How fucking dumb are you? They've living there longer than you lived in New Mexico Jose

>>128677226
Well i guess they are stuck with them until Chechnya demands independence again.

>>128677179
Who knows. I'm sceptical. The clickbait headlines like "gay holocaust" are bullshit, but some small-scale abuses might be real. I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually encouraged by the locals. They still practice honor killings, and I wouldn't put it past them to put their fag relatives out of their misery just for their sexuality.

>>128666434
russia is in the wrong and should give it back

>>128677014
I forgot proxies didn't exist

>>128667746
>votes are only legitimate if it goes in my favour

>>128666434
Watch this.
>Victoria Nuland's Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine"

>>128666434
And this...
>Listen: Victoria Nuland Says F*CK The E.U. in Leaked Phone Call

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QxZ8t3V_bk

>>128666434
These mf-ers destabilized Ukraine and caused a Civil War right on Russias border, and Russia knows we did it.
Victoria Nuland, Obama, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, they're all warmongering shits that might get us all killed.
Russia is NEVER going to give Crimea.
Crimea has historicaly belonged to Russia.

>Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES

>>128679772
shit, here's the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY

>>128680486
and here's this one.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k