Why was World War One so bloody?

War on the industrial scale with no idea what's over to deal with it.

go in your backyard, dig a hole and sit it in. Every time you pop up to look over, you die
Rains and can't change socks? You die or at least love feet
Every not and then, randomly you die from mortar or airplane
Time to experience certificate a barrage! In your hole close your eyes and then put your head down. Now take your hands and put palms over ears and fingers to back of head, now drum one finger at a time up the back of your head as fast as you can. Those thuds should give you an idea as to the sheer amount of shells fired for DAYS to soften a line. Just imagine.

That's why it was so bloody

>>128650693
>You die or at least love feet
feet fetischists truly are the worst

>>128649892
It's just what happens when you have high troop concentration fighting in artillery/defensive centric battles. On the Western Front the allies were facing 3 Germans for every yard of front

>Tfw by 1917 we wanted to declare peace but so many men had died one side had to lose utterly

>>128649892

Listen to this OP - and you're totally up to date i promise you !!

http://www.ihr.org/mwreport/2012-03-28

>>128649892
you know there weren't even real "rifles" before that war

not to forget all the other shit like artillery
and then ofcourse the biology warfare

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The Anglo was the true victim of this war.

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>>128650693
Feet fungus turns its victims into feet fetishits, so that it spreads.
THIS IS THEIR PLAN, PEOPLE THESE ARE DEMONS! JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS, IT'S BASICALLY AN INTERGALACTIC INVASION INTO THIS SPACE, THROUGH FUNGUS. I'M TELLIN' YA! IT'S WHAT ALL THE ANCIENTS SAID, IT'S WHAT THEY WARNED OF: THEY'RE DEMONS!

>>128649892
Just watch Dan Carlin's series on WWI

Basically this was the first modern war between large powers. Technology had advanced so far and so fast since Napoleon's time that militaries were just kind of winging it in WWI. They didn't know how effective modern artillery and other weaponry were going to be. The only way they could develop effective tactics to be effective and survive modern industrial warfare was basically trial and error.

It's why you see countries essientially zerg rushing for the first few years of the war.

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>>128649892
technology was out pacing tactics in war. No one knew how to deal with machine guns and advancing across open ground.

it was basically "lets bomb them for 9 weeks straight and then run across the no man zone"

>>128653793
It's interesting to consider the fact that Germany, Greece and America are the only three western nations that lost more men in WW two than in WW one. Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Portugal(not even involved in the second war), France, Belgium and Italy all lost much more men in WWI than WWII

>>128653793
its crazy to think this all (ww1 + ww2 and every other slaughter in western europe) happened in not even the last 100 years

and now we're here, completely effeminated thinking women quotas / migrant bullshitery are some of the biggest issues of our society

>>128654183

>zerg rushing

some of my ancestors died in that war and I cant stop laughing at this

>>128649892
Leaky skin

>>128654374
Russia? :P

>>128653480
uh you mean chemical warfare?

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>>128652902

And look where that got us.

>>128649892

Prior to WWI large scale engagements involved standing in an open field and firing at each other.

On the onset of war, generals and tacticians were still using outdated methodology to devise battle tactics - one German observer noted that when the French first engaged the German lines they were dressed in their bright blue uniforms complete with stripes. They were picked off pretty easily.

Warfare changed and there was no precedent. So they hunkered down and adapted on the fly.

>>128654620

he obviously means chemistry warfare

>>128649892
Because military tactics have not yet caught up with advances in military technologies.

/thread

>>128653480

Rifles were not new, the first conflict where breech-loading rifles vs breech-loading rifle happened was German-French war of 1870/71.

What was new was the machine gun and effective artillery and of course the gas.

Machine guns and artillery made advances impossible which is especially horrific when retarded generals think its a genius move to do bayonet charges.

>>128649892
It was supposed to be quick, the idea being that modern weapons made war speedy and reduced suffering. In fact the opposite became true. Horses were not reliable in transporting anything, and cars did not really exist, so men did not really move as much or as quickly. The war just became static and men had to live in zombie graveyards for years.

The jews also influenced the bolshiviks to overthrow the tzar and jumpstart the communist revolution.

>>128649892
mental cucking, it's the same thing that effects the majority of people posting on /pol/. Something in your brains makes you keep doing the same thing over and over without being able to think outside the box.

only a few (like Adolf Hitler) can overcome it.

>>128654374

Russia/ soviet union and China both lost more people in ww2 than the total dead in ww1 each >>128654887

>>128655208
kek the germans literally sent lenin to russia and financed his movement
if it wasn't for german autism we'd be in a much better world today

>>128654388
It's the very reason why we're choosing effeminacy

>>128654887

Ww1 was the second race war, the first being the American civil war and the third being ww2.

Sadly the wrong side won all three, and the right side wore grey in all three.

>>128655208
True. The German broke through the lines several times toward the end of the war but they didn't have trucks that can maneuver the craters to supply the vanguard.
Then light tank was invented and rolled over everything.

>>128655917

kek I noticed that as well.

Someitmes I LARP as a southern plantation militia man, but my uniform is butternut colored.

>>128649892
The new technology that had come in; better ways of entrenching and fortifying, barbed wire, machine guns, artillery... overwhelmingly favoured the defender in every confrontation, and strategists failed to come up with a response. An analogy to your typical WW1 battle would be an unarmoured man trying to attack a knight with a stick

>>128649892

Long story short; they were using yesterday's battle tactics against modern (at the time) technology.

Easily the most horrific conflict in history.

>>128657195

The first battles were pretty cool though

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>>128654183
I listened to this one. He is great at putting things into a good perspective

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>>128650693
>Time to experience certificate a barrage!

>>128649892

Dismounted assaults through obstacles with no cover or concealment that are being overwatched by belt fed weapons with enfilading fires and indirect fire support is always going to be a recipe for slaughter.

>>128654183
>They didn't know how effective modern artillery and other weaponry were going to be
I think this was also a overlooked part of why they went to war in the first place. The European governments and nobility for the past 30 years or so had built up massive arsenals and invested in the development of new military technology, and were itching to try out their new toys. If they had known what a drawn out bloodbath that would result, if they'd known just how destructive these weapons were and that they wouldn't see a swift victory in less than a year like in other European conflicts of that period, they would have done more to avoid war

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>>128649892
Well, lets see.

Since it was a brand new type of war, there were no regulations. So devastating weapons like poison gas and artillery were used for the very first time on a major scale. Also, since it was a standstill war in muddy trenches, infested with diseases, many would die in the horrible conditions. Plus, throwing men into machine gun fire probably had a lot to do with how many deaths there were.

No penicillin ...you got a scratch you died.

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They were new to modern war. The Brits almost recalled helmets because they noticed more head injuries being recorded. They didn't realize it was because they would have been counted as deaths before helmets were used.

>>128659055
And here we are again.

Wait till the unrestricted drone warfare begins. And then come the rail gun batteries being leased out to alligned 3rd world shitholes to fight their neighbor shitholes.


Shit's gonna be litty.

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>>128661141
Cold war gone hot is basically a nightmare scenario.

NATO had all but confirmed immediate use of tactical nuclear weapons to stop the massive soviet push should it have happened.

>>128660933
Reminds me of the story of the guy who decided to put more armour on the parts of the planes that weren't shot up when they came back from engagements.
(They were shot in those places and still came back, therefore, it's the ones shot in other places that don't come back.)

>>128661763
https://youtu.be/GuwtNDkHch0

>>128661763
If technology in the next 20 years makes it affordable to hand out weaponry like rail guns to allies on the cheap for brinksmanship without nuke purposes we will start to see world war body counts over the course of a decade. Might even last longer since there are a lot more peripheral nation peoples on Earth today, and we can make it easy for them to do it to themselves.

Not to mention the mid-level civil wars in the civilized countries when offensive drone technology in the hands of law enforcement sees serious proliferation.

This century could be worse than the 20th, and the west will be lucky to see the 22nd at that rate.

>>128660933

Brit helmets were shit though

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>>128662752
And this is way better right anon?

>>128649892

I'm sure someone else said it but Napoleonic and American Civil War tactics combined with new and untested technologies ramped up the body count.

>>128662752
Fuck off stahlcuck

The Brodie helmets served their purpose well and were on par with your shit

>>128663220


>be German
>develop best helmet design after 2 years of war that has been copied all over the world and is the current standard

>be British
>design "helmet" that looks like a soup plate and is ineffective
>stick to shit design through two wars just to silently copy the German design and never talk about it


really made me think

>>128662752
meh... they did the job they were made for and were fine for the time, by WW2 though I agree they were very much outdated

>>128663721

That is why every nation uses the Brodie design right now :^)

Remember which country had to fix your current ordnance rifle because you are too retarded to build proper guns? Oh it was us :o

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What about this one?

>>128664073
>Germany
>nation

Kek

But h&k was owned by us at the time so

>>128663931
>Be German
>Lose war
>Claim enemy has shitty helmets
>Improve your helmet to a near modern standard
>Enemy keeps same helmet
>Lose war again

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>>128649892

Because kick ass grrrrls had to regulate you fascists.

We would have lost the war without strong women. FACT

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>>128663983

indeed

>>128664211

Didnt the Polish use them as well in their two weeks of WW2?

>>128664328
>>128664346

>be British
>"win" war
>get stabbed
>get bombed
>get trucked
>get raped

>still proud kike slaves

really made me think

>>128655161
The technical term is Franco-Prussian War. Jesus, Germany has really lost their identity and intelligence these past few years.

>>128655208
Horses were a huge factor in transporting artillery guns, they even had front line veterinarians to help the horses.

>>128664888
>resorting to "you have Muslims" memes because you can argue for shit

Go prep your refugee bull for grelka and go donate €100 billion more euros to your Jew masterlords you dirty krautcuck

>>128649892
No counter to the machine gun until tanks were made more maneuverable post-war.

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>>128664511
Reminder that Wonder Girl > Wonder Woman

>>128665519
Who reads this shit?

>>128665109

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsch-Franz%C3%B6sischer_Krieg

>let me tell you about your country

Hang yourself, don't forget to use a steel cable though

>>128665340

>

t. Somebody who just had happen 3 major terror attacks within 2 months in his country and rage posts about Germany while Sadiq rapes his mom

Don't be mad, Humphrey Cuckington

>>128653480
Like the M98 Mauser from I dunno, 1898?

>>128661141
We are still in the post WW1 mindset that war is hell and we will never go back.

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>>128665628

>>128665629
Yeah but from these it's just making people angrier towards Muslims you had 100s of women raped at cologne on a single night and you cucks daren't even talk about it after, not to mention the week where you had 4 Muslim terrorist attacks in a row

>>128665629
>uses a modern German cuck term for a war that unified German states, stay classy Hanz.

>>128665519
THICC

>>128649892
>Why did Germany and the allies lose so many men
we needed to make the world safe for trannies and kebab

>>128666116

It was always called that to emphasize that it was an all German war against the French which is why it had an unifying effect.

Again, please end yourself you degenerate lardass.

>>128666105

Maybe all of this would not have happened if you didnt side with jews in WW2?

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>>128649892
>WWI worse than WWII
lol
6+ million axis and soviet soldiers buried in the Russian steppes would disagree

>>128649892
because it was a bunch of tough,fucks with archaic weapons only slightly improved by "technology" being commanded by indoctrinated retards who were taking orders from retards that thought they were smart.

>>128666403
There was no German, just Prussian, know your history Hanz, De-Nazification really did a number on your people,eh? Uncle Otto is rolling in his Prussian grave.

>>128665932
We have no problem providing weaponry which can kill thousands to our allies. What about when we can cheaply give away enough armaments to kill hundreds of thousands without violating geneva conventions?

Drones also allow a government to kill all sorts of people in situations where it would normally be difficult or require the transfer of a lot of authority to death squad generals. A general ratcheting up of the body count without reaching the sustained peak mortality levels that would replenish our burnout on war. If you kill as many people a were killed in WWII but take an extra 10 years to do so, how difficult will it be to deescalate?

>>128666403
I personally didn't side with any Jew,
But that was the only period of German history where you guys were alright but the modern German state should be nuked as it caused the refugee crisis and thus more terrorism in Europe

Not to mention Germans politicians will regularly take it up the arse from kikes just so they can be the king of the ashes when Europe is destroyed

>>128666457
If you look at how many men went to war versus how many came back WWI wins out. It was proportionately more bloody.

>>128666618

If you are not trolling your are the most retarded poster I encountered for months

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>>128666563
> archaic weapons
>only slightly improved by 'technology'

>>128666719
Good point but we are thoroughly jewed now. Whatever furthers (((their))) narrative and however they want to portray it is what people will see

>>128667038

Kek, you fall for their tricks again.

Ready to kill some whites because it was actually Germanys fault right? Not like Germany is a brainwashed puppet state to the US for over 70 years now or something.

No a third world war will solve it goy, and after it your country will be 30% white but at least you defeated the Krauts again!
Also stop pretending you were any better, as the recent events showed Brexit means shit.
Your country is as invested as ours. How many paki niggers did you string up after the Rotherham scanald was uncovered? Right. None.

>>128649892
Because military technology was way ahead of military thinking. If a general from the Napoleonic wars was present at the very start of the First World War he probably would have at least recognized a lot of the doctrines and tactics used.

>>128654374
It's not surprising. Basically 2 entire generations were wiped out from WWI

>>128649892
stupid get out of the trenches and storm the machine gun nests tactics.

>>128667127
>I GOT IT, LETS MAKE REALLY BIG BULLETS!!!

by the way, if you look at the progression... WW2 the Abomb, progressed to "civilized" war,... then the "information war"... there's war on for you mind (TM)...

>>128649892
Research the battle of the Somme. For a few months Brit bongs were sent over the top, marched to their deaths in some cases 200,000 died each day.

>>128667114
Damn nigga wtf you think? Im bored and needed a reaction to occupy my day. Thanks for your time Hans

>>128649892
It was the first major war where all sides were heavily industrialized. It was the first war with the machine gun. It was the first war with chemical weapons. It was the first war where artillery could hit a position without being in line of sight. It was the first war where the standard infantry rifle was accurate and had the range to make use of that accuracy.

Officers did not understand the different tactics required for these new weapons. Most believed that all that was required was to fire artillery and then charge into the enemy, expecting the same. They never stopped to think that the average rifleman could pick off their men from several hundred yards out. they never stopped to think about how the machine gun could spit out enough lead to stop a charge cold. That's why it turned into such a stalemate eventually. Nobody knew how the fuck to move up on the battlelines, because the bolt action rifle and the machine gun gave the average solider far too much firepower to charge and overwhelm without vastly superior numbers. The war turned into a back and forth of artillery barrages and hopeless charges. Things didn't really change until the tank was invented and allowed offensives to actually work again, plus the inclusion of fresh American troops to revitalize the Allied lines.

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>>128649892
DETERMINATION.

>>128667727

>I was just pretending to be retarded

stop man, just stop.
I promise not to mention it in future

>>128667677

It worked though. The German military on the western front was seriously fucked after the battle of the somme.

>>128667770
It was the first war uder the central banking system, where supplies could be regulated for both sides from the same money supply.

They wanted to keep them fighting forever.

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CJ Chivers gives a pretty good breakdown in his book 'The Gun' on how both sides totally misunderstood new technologies. (He focuses specifically on machine guns, as the book is overall about the AK-47.)

Basically, people who had become officers in the era of cavalry just couldn't comprehend what machine guns were capable of. The Russians were some of the first to pick up on Gatling guns, and later maxim guns. There were battles in the Japanese and Russian war where the Russians did massive damage with machine guns, but nobody took notice. European countries had observers at these battles, but most never actually visited the battlefield.

Going into WW1, Germany had vastly more machine guns than France and England because the Kaiser had happened to be shown a military demonstration of Maxim guns a few years before and thought they were cool. The English had some at the start, but were barely trained on how to use them, and only issued a couple hundred rounds of ammo per gun. The French didn't really have any.

So in the opening stages of the war, the allies got totally wrecked by machine guns (and both sides by artillery.) But the officers were so out of touch and didn't visit the front, so they literally didn't believe the reports from infantry about the devastating effects of the guns. Even up to the Spring Offensive, the French and British generals were prioritizing new bayonets over machine guns and ammo.

They figured it out after awhile, but way too late. And then America entered the war and hadn't gotten the memo, and it was back to zerg rushing into machine guns for awhile.

And let's not even get into how badly prepared French artillery was!

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>>128668020

>>128655799
you know its cowardly to retract and hide. we need to not fear who we are, what we're capable of, or our past history of existence. we should be pushing forward, being brave and understanding the truths about ourselves.

But to be honest, the true red pill is understanding that opportunity was lost in 1945, this is the reality we're stuck in.

>>128668073
>It was the first war uder the central banking system, where supplies could be regulated for both sides from the same money supply.
Can you expand on this, or link some suace that does?

If I understand your meaning didn't the same dynamic exist between England and France during napoleonic wars?

>>128667410
>Germans accusing us of white genocide

Pot kettle

>oh it wasn't us who elected merkel oh it wasn't us who is behind the EU at all it was all the US boogie man!

Take responsibility krautcuck, since reunification you've stopped being an actual US puppet state (well at least to some extent) I remember being here when your country applied political pressure to other European countries (which it continues to do so) and then is in complete denial that opening the floodgates has caused any problems like overcrowding and crime

For this I still believe that Germany should be obliterated from this earth by using bomber Harris to firebomb you Mongols into oblivion

Also non memingly pretty much everyone involved in Rotherham got caught hence the media attention chances are there are probably 10 rotherhams going on there but they're still covering it up

>>128667677
>200,000 died each day
wat. Proofs? How is that possible?

>>128668085
>America hadn't gotten the memo
>What is the BAR
>What is the M1917

America didn't get the memo until it was about to enter the war and saw how devastating the machine gun really was. That's when they bought the M1917 and BAR from John Browning and entered them into service.

>>128649892

Chivalry met industry.

When you had to make a sword and armor for a warrior it was and somehow majestic. When they figured out the mass production of a rifle, it was easier to make rifles than warriors. The gun talks less and kills more.

WWI was a clusterfuck because all of the armies had guns. Before it was more of "We got rifles/carbines, they have muskets/swords/stones" It was More technology than strategy.

>>128654080
KEK

>>128663721
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-German-soldiers-have-better-designed-helmets-than-British-soldiers-in-the-First-World-War

I learned a lot today

>>128668628

>builts first concentration camp
>genocides the Boers so niggers can occupy their land
>abandons South Africa and Rhodesia and supports nigger movements
>sells their Empire to jews just so you can drop more bombs on Europeans
>brainwash and cuck Germany for 70 years
>"W-why are you brainwashed and cucked Germany? I guess we have to lend some money from Mr. Noseberg to bomb these Krauznahtzees again!"

really made me think


>"For this I still believe that Germany should be obliterated from this earth by using bomber Harris to firebomb you Mongols into oblivion"

nothing suprising here, good goyim gonna be good goyim

>>128668708
Look up literally any source on the battle. WWI was only matched in brutality by the Eastern Front in WWII.

>>128668708
I think he meant monthly

>>128667677
Best be trolling.

>>128649892
Old tactics, such as bayonet charges and such, mixed with new technology, such as the machine gun. The machine gun would slaughter platoons preforming a traditional assault.

>>128650693
Is this translated from dutch or something?

>>128649892
Go watch The Great War on youtube to find out why.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar/videos

the tactics used were the same as previous wars but the weapons we much more modern

>>128668628
What can they do? They can't organize because no free speech. They can't criticize because no free speech. Their votes are out weighed by shitskins and gibs already. Their only hope is RWDS and I'm not sure they are capable of it anymore.

>>128649892

People were so ignorant and brainwashed, that they would march into no mans land and slaughter each other, because some interbred toff queer told them to. WW1 was a meaningless war. My grandfather was in both World Wars, and hated those cunts for what they made him go through.

>>128669002
>Germany dindu nuffin it's the Anglo man trying to keep the German man down

Also the boer concentration camps were more like pow camps actually

Rhodesia was a mistake though

>>128655917
How long do you think slavery would have lasted had the south won?

>>128659877
There was a treaty against chemical weapons they just ignored it because they thought it would break the stalemate.

>>128669002
>>builts first concentration camp
So what
>>genocides the Boers so niggers can occupy their land
Wasn't genocide, there was no food to feed them so they starved or got diseased
>>abandons South Africa and Rhodesia and supports nigger movements
Never supported the nigger movements actually, the soviet union did, UK just abandoned them because of international pressure
>>sells their Empire to jews just so you can drop more bombs on Europeans
Empire would have collapsed anyway, nationalism was growing and soviet union was funding all opposition movements, might as well end it 'peacefully' with good terms
>>brainwash and cuck Germany for 70 years
Germans birthed anti fa, the first anti racist movements and protests, critical theory and much more but somehow that's the Anglos thought
>>"W-why are you brainwashed and cucked Germany? I guess we have to lend some money from Mr. Noseberg to bomb these Krauznahtzees again!"
Honestly you deserve to be bombed at this point, Europe is facing destruction thanks to Germany, but if it makes you feel any better UK deserved to be destroyed too

>>128669531
I am

>>128670099
>>128671018

>declare war on Germany over Poland
>sell Poland to Soviets

Almost like it was just an excuse to destroy Germany

You just had to listen. Just had to vote in Mosley and we would live in a state pretty near paradise now.

>>128670668
Impossible to answer. So much would have changed in World History. Does the CSA join in on WWI? Do they side with Hitler in WWII and declare war on the USA? Has the CSA built up enough industry to fight the USA effectively in such a war? Who wins that war? Is the USA unable to invade Europe because they're too busy fighting Japan and the CSA? Does Hitler defeat the USSR because he can divert all of his forces and resources to the Eastern Front?

I've heard a lot of people say that eventually slavery would have been abolished in the CSA should it have won, but I'm not entirely sure. The CSA winning the Civil War means that there is an entirely different country with different beliefs and principles right on the border with the USA. If they sided with the Axis Powers then who knows what would have happened in WWII and beyond.

>>128671409
Or you shouldn't have invaded Poland at all

>muh danzig

>>128664211
The Adrian was the worst helmet from what I heard. But I can't recall why.

>>128671913
Expensive and the material was the least effective of all three designs

>>128667565
It only makes sense that the next progression is into the spiritual "realm".

>>128671798

>invades quarter of the worlds landmass
>no war declared upon by Germany
>gives majority German region to Germanys envious neighbors after WW1 in an unfair treaty
>Germany just wants to get back the territory it held for 800 years

OI M8 WE GOTTA DESTROY THE HUN BOMB THEIR CITIES KILL THEIR CHILDREN AND REEDUCATE THEM AND IMPORT MILLIONS OF INDIANS AND PAKIS INTO THE UK BECAUSE MY RABBI TOLD ME SO

>>128671409
Mosley founded the BUF too late to be elected in time, had the entire media against him on top of that and Britain was too stable for him to be elected. Winston Churchill was unelected and put Mosley straight into Jail, King Edward supported Germany but put his relationship ahead of being a King, there was nothing that could have been done.

>>128672175
>boohoo muh imperialistic empire

The instances of Germans sounding like niggers in this thread really makes on ponder

>>128653793
Why must they persecute me so?

>>128672498

>its ok when we do it
>still defending what you did despite knowing about the catastrophic consequences being a good goy brought to you

are you retarded?

>>128672249

I wonder (((who))) owned said media

>>128666403
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War
Franco-German war implies that Germany won a war.

>>128674010

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsch-Franz%C3%B6sischer_Krieg
>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsch-Franz%C3%B6sischer_Krieg
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>>128673110
Jews of course, but why do you blame Anglos for what was beyond our control

>>128674340

I blame the Anglos that still think that they were in the right

>>128650693
Either die a man, or live long enough to love feet

>>128674227
I don't care about what your propaganda state tells its citizens to sooth its ego for never having won a war.

The German state did not win that war, Prussia did. Glorious Prussia then united your people, bringing the rest of you to heel.

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>>128668358
This was after the meeting of jekyll island.

I'll throw in one more thing about the artillery. After the 19th century wars both sides had huge stockpiles of grapeshot - which is great for attacking infantry on an open plain but not much use against dug in bunkers and trenches. All it did was churn up the surface of the ground and create more mud, and made it harder for their own troops to advance.
But they had the stockpiles so they kept on using it.

>>128675260
*canister shot not grape

>>128654183
This. Those cavalry charges against machine guns were pretty fucking hilarious as well. I mean how dense do you have to be?

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Technological developments that appeared quickly and for which countermeasures had yet to be developed, combined with tactics intended to deliver knockout blows rather than form part of an overall strategic plan.

Literally nobody wanted this war. Heads of state of the principals were basically all Victoria's progeney and referred to one another as Nicky and Willy. This is a classic example of people unwittingly ceding control of events to the events themselves and was a perfect example of George Washington's warning against foreign entanglements. The alliances that were supposed to protect the individual countries eventually ruined all of them.

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>>128650693

>Time to experience certificate a barrage!

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>Why was WW1 so bloody?
In short answer, the tactics of war hadn't caught up to the technology of war.

At the beginning of WW1, war was fought like it was in Napoleonic times, with bayonet charges and musket lines. By the end of WW1, war was fought as it is now; a combination of vehicles, infantry, and tactical artillery. At the beginning of the war, when they would attempt musket line tactics, they would get absoluetely shredded by machinegun fire, and the whole line would collapse. WW1 was the first time machine guns and artillery were used at such a massive scale, and with the setup of trenches, machineguns absolutely decimated infantry. Going over the top to take the other trench was literally hopping out of cover, and running over wide open landscape toward machinegun fire planted in some concrete pillbox, as well as rifle fire from all the other men occupy the trench. What made this worse was that some Generals lived in the past and fought war in the past; for example they would attempt only bayonet rushes with nothing in the barell, and as a result, got destroyed. That what happened at Gallipoli, they got destroyed by the Ottomans because Gallipoli was a tactical disaster. More then just machineguns and retarded generals, were the mustard gas and overall all the experimentak shit. What you need to understand about WW1 is that it was pretty much all experimental up until the end when they finally got their shit together at the start of the German Spring Offensives. The armies werent prepared to deal with the constant artillery bombardment, the mustard gas being launched into other trenches via artillery, etc etc.

Not to mention that right after the war began it turned from a war of motion into a war of attrition where literally everyside is losing thousands of men just to get a couple hundered feet of contested land.

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>>128668358

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=history+of+the+rothschilds

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>>128668708
maybe 200,000 casualties, which includes both dead and wounded.

>>128649892
First large scale war fought with "modern" technology, using vastly outdated tactics and military ideas.

>>128649892
I recommend that everyone in this tread goes and listens to Dan Carlin's hardcore history podcasts about WW1.
It's called "Blueprint for Armageddon".
Please give it a listen.

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>>128649892

>>128651324
It was pretty funny Påsan

>>128649892
Little did our ancestors know that instead of killing our fellow white brothers, they should have joined forces and destroyed the arab, asian and the black...

People often say the officers had no tactics for the new weapons. But they did figure it out by the end. Imagine commanding this without the radio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Messines_(1917)

>>128662752

Better than a fabric hat my man.

>>128649892
In WWI weapons were getting CRAZY. Generals from the 19th century were using outmoded tactics in the face of weaponry unlike anything the world had ever seen. Similarly inflated casualties occurred in the Civil War, with generals using firing line volley tactics in a world where rifled barrels, repeating arms, and self-contained cartridges were taking hold.

>>128666116
>Can't green text properly
Fix yourself nigger

>>128654388
All those men died, leaving women as a larger percentage, and they used that new found freedom to indoctrinate themselves in Feminism.

>>128679550

>mobile

>>128649892
The french battle plans still thought soldiers could advance X amount of meters between volleys of enemy fire. They started the way with that in mind. Those frame of mind going up against machine guns is why it was so bloody.

>>128649892
Why does it take six fuckin guys to operate that one weapon?

>>128649892
It was a war fought with 20th century technology, but using 19th century tactics

>>128669185
What an oddly specific question

>>128668358
The rothchilds funded both sides.

>>128649892
It was because they fought with no tactics. They would send thousands of men straight into well placed machine gun turrets.

Which WW1 book truly conveys what the battlefield was like, instead of a matter-of-fact delineation of events and history?

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>>128650693
>Time to experience certificate a barrage!

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>>128649892

remember that during world war I

-women wanted to vote
-men wanted to not die in the battle field

that's the patriarchy at work.

>>128682700
Austria's Official History of the war tells events pretty well. I mean, it is literally an 8 volume day-by-day delineation, but every action is covered in detail. There are plenty of officer's quotes from those who fought in the skirmish and usually a brief analysis of why it went well or terribly bad.

>>128649892
It's crazy to think that all these major wars are caused by nationalist white men, white people are the most violent and child-minded race there is. It feels good that white genocide is real, good riddance fuckers.

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>>128654272
>>128654272

> No one knew how to deal with machine guns and advancing across open ground.

Major General Monash was ignored for months and outright abused by US counterparts because he wanted to implement combined arms warfare.

> Formalized his idea of a mass immediate attack where men are covered by armor and artillery with no warning to the enemy since Gallipoli

>Brits and yanks were retards who didn't value their men's lives and believed a rusty half functioning shitbox tank was worth a thousand men.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot_de_Mole

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Monash

Australians literally shaped modern land war for decades to come. If we had 50 million people instead of 7 in WW1 we would have a vast Empire by now.

>>128649892
Trench warfare.
It is fucking brutal.

>>128654388
>every other slaughter in Western Europe happened within the last 100 years
You serious right now, bruh?

>>128685772
Western civilization is the dominant civilization so of course the most destructive war fought by those with the means.

As for violent, well, have you seen the Cartel in Mexico?

Or the African Warlords and their constant wars?

Or Japan in WWII?

No, white people are not the devil.

>>128655161
Pretty sure breach loaders and magazined reapeaters were used to a significant degree in the American Civil War

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>>128649892
The weapons to kill people had advanced far beyond the tactics to maneuver around the or blow through them. Only towards the end of the war did tanks come onto the battlefield which brought back the offensive option and ability to maneuver through trench lines.

>>128689875
yep, spencer repeating rifles were used by alot of the sharpshooting regiments in the ACW. The civil war was the war that saw rifle technology progress past tactics. WW1 saw artillery and machine gun technology progress past tactics. Both were slaughterhouses