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Obamacare was really bad, eh guys?

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Obamacare was really bad, eh guys?
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>>128642325
Dude they're just going to call you a faggot and say you don't understand economics
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>>128642475
Which makes it even funnier because nothing they say changes the facts.
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How many of those are full time, and subject to Obamacare requirements?
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>>128642325
>full-time jobs lost
>part-time jobs gained
>net loss of employment that looks good on a chart
>nigger liberals buy it
shiggy
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Why do Americans hate universal healthcare, it's free to the point of use
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>>128642748
>>128642728
Come at me.
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>>128643063

>seasonally adjusted
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>>128643174
....do you even know what that means?
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>>128643063
>>128643174
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>>128642325
lol nice try tho op
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>>128643031
They let the same people who make an absolute killing from the American healthcare system convince them that all of the rest of the world is stupid and has shitty healthcare.

These are the same kinds of people who voted for Trump, mind you, so you can see how easily they get played.
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>>128644212
>GDP having anything to do with employment or healthcare

Nice try tho retardo.
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>>128644333
yea the economy has nothing to do with the economy
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>>128644565
Actually he's saying employment has nothing to do with economic growth
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>>128644565
Don't be an idiot, idiot. The GDP has no direct bearing on whether the job market has done well. It's a myth that profits relate to employment. If that were the case, there'd be 0 unemployment in this country, because they have record profits.
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>>128644565
probably has nothing to do with this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession
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>>128642630
>>128642325
Do you know what QE is?
If you did you wouldnt tie the economy to obama.
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>>128642325

leftism, failing at economics since forever
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>>128642325
>>128642475
>>128642630
correlation != causation
Also I understand economics just fine I am a PhD candidate at DRT. You kids are obviously undergrads.

dont bother responding, im ignoring this dumbass thread after this
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>>128644930
Apart from that time the Soviet Union went from having a shit economy on the brink of collapse to having the second best economy
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>poor people (which you are, else you wouldn't be here) hating on obamacare

only amerifats can be this retarded
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>>128642325
Doesn't look so good when you view the full time jobs chart eh. You mean government regulation encouraged more part time jobs to get around the regulation?!?! You don't say!
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>>128644954
Oh running away hey, I'll bite yer fuckin' legs off ha yellow bastard
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>>128642325
This retardation has earned you a sage.
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>>128645374
Retardation means to slow down
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>>128643031
>"Free"
No it isn't. You pay for it through taxes and you pay more than Americans for worse healthcare, it's wealth redistribution AKA Communism.
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>>128645114

>he unironically thinks the soviet union has anything worth noting of accomplishment
kill yourself commie scum
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>>128645486
Free to the point of use, read the full sentence you dumb cunt. Also we pay far less than Americans
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>>128645516
I see you don't like facts
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>>128644226
OK kid, let me school you how healthcare works. In a free market people can choose which insurance policy best covers them, and can adjust cost to benefit ratio to suit their needs, while in a socialist system a bad policy can't be changed and often times is subsidized by the government, shoveling tax monies into a furnace while in a free market they would be forced to change or go out of business.
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>>128645822
Implying the meals on wheels cuts weren't 3%. Try harder
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>>128645114

you are not allowed to just make shit up and pretend you have some kind of argument faggot, this is not your gender studies class
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>>128645486
>and you pay more than Americans for worse healthcare
Objectively not true. Maybe the latter part is true, but you pay much more than most countries.
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>>128645170
Hans... I....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/07/28/overwhelming-evidence-that-obamacare-caused-premiums-to-increase-substantially/amp/
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>>128642475
Why is jobs relevant? I care about cost of my health insurance, not whether some shithead gets a job.
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>>128642325
>ignoring the republican house majority starting in 2010
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>>128645634
Do you pay taxes? Then you pay for it.
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>>128642325
shadowstats.com

The official employment numbers are artificial.
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>>128646327
If you actually read about the Soviet Union you will see that this is fact
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>>128646334
Americans pay less taxes than Euros.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_in_Europe
Insurance is not as expensive as people think, Obamacare fucked everything up.
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>>128646531
Whilst you pay taxes for it it is called free to the point of use
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>>128646864
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>>128643063
aAhAHAHAH please tell me you have rest of the graph, you know, like in the bush years? 2000 to 2008? Let's see where Bush's high was as well....
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Yes, I unironically hate poor "people".
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>>128647133
>>128646864
Kek
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>>128642325
>stock market stops crashing
>jobs increase
fucktard
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>>128643275
Apt
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>>128642325
Job growth is a red herring
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weakest 'recovery' ever
all new jobs created are mcjobs
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>>128647842
>buying fox news talking points this hard
kek
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>>128642325
>Durr Obamacare must be adding jobs because it is healing dem employees and you saving dem lives.
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>>128642325
>Obama we got more jobs
>Reality is full time.got split into two half times for many
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>>128643063
>US population grew by 12 million last 6 years
>Jobs grew by 11 million
Wow impressive
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>>128644954
>dont bother responding,
You just conceded defeat kek
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>le president effects le economy
nice meme
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>>128642325

It was.

My premiums doubled and my quality of care dropped.

Tell me how either of those things was good, faggot.
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>>128648229

THIS.

Turning a full-time position with benefits into 2 shitty part-time positions with no benefits is not "job creation", but liberals seem to think it is.

Because they're fucking retarded.
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>>128644212
>greatest financial disaster in almost 100 years had direct impact on growth
you left something out
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>>128651524
>>greatest financial disaster in almost 100 years had direct impact on growth

If you know anything about recessions than you should know that there is a huge boom in all sectors and measures of growth once it is finished.It should have impacted Obama's results much more favorably than they did.
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>>128652116
wrong...it took WWII to get us out of the great depression
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>>128642325
I'm sure Obamacare is the sole driving force behind the US economy.
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>>128642325
Employment would go up if the government hired a load of people but that's not necessarily a good thing, why would shitty government services subsidised by the tax payer be good for the nation
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>>128644801

The job market didn't do well under Obama. First of all, the employment numbers were faked throughout his presidency. Second, this >>128644879, retard. Neck yourself
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>here is the ufiltered truth
Democrats are always better for the economy, even Donald Trump said it before he became a pozzed elephant cuck. Republicans are a protest party that attract low IQ whites and hispanics. Okay Democrats get the low IQ blacks but they also exclusively get High IQ whites and asians.
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>more workers
>same wages
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>>128652433
>wrong...it took WWII to get us out of the great depression
How does the method of escaping a depression have anything to do with my statement? You do know that there is supposed to be a huge surge in growth after a depression has run its course right?
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>>128642325
Here you go newfag

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
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>>128642325
lol i work a part time job and they told me in the interview they cant hire full time bc of aca
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>>128653187
there isn't a huge surge
look at the time between 1929 and 1940
no surge
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>>128653984
there is alot of problems with your comparison, but first lets get this out of the way.
>comparing 10% to 25% unemployment rates.
But getting that out of the way we then get into the heart of the matter as to what quantifies a recovery.
That is a complicated question to answer, but this graph should show the surge that you can't see. Also most people consider the Great Depression to have ended in 1939.
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>>128655600
you're comparing employment to the GDP growth chart above
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>>128642325
Schlomo pls. Are these "jobs" or jobs? If you're going to play Semite Semantics at least try and deliver better bait.
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>>128656297
The GDP chart also follows that model
Look at that huge spike from 39-41
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>>128657662
39-41 was 10 years after the crash
our economy and housing market crashed in like '07-'08
so that means the economy should be returning to normal right about now
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>>128644565
>what is automation
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