Is /pol/ statist or anarchist?

statism to endure bad times

anarchism to enjoy good times

>>128635027
Doesn't statism also create the bad times?

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>>128634799
/pol/ is both of those things and more.
Which is why i like it. You see the true anarchy not the bulshit in your pic.

>>128635688
no, liberals do

Old /pol/: libertarian
Neo /pol/: totalitarian

>>128634799
Statist.

Anarchy eventually devolves into a state. The minute a social contract is signed between neighbours to peacefully associate a state has developed

>>128637666
Tfw I am an Ancap 1776 Pauls

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>>128634799
Statist, but with rights and a Constitution protecting free speech, due process, and the right to bear arms.

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ITT philosophers of freedom

>i didn't know freedom meant people doing things that suck

>>128634799
anarchist so I can steamroll other anarchists and form my ideal state

>>128634799
/pol/ is not a collective, retard

>>128638364
People shouldn't have "Freedom" they should have responsibilities, but not obligations.
Freedom is total chaos. Responsibility is tempered freedom.

>>128634799
I believe violence is a way to solve problems, so I guess I'm a statist

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>>128634799
I'm in Pinochet faction which makes me a statist I guess.
You need strong and ruthless state to remove leftists and other excrements.
Other that that freedom should be preserved.

Anarchy depending on the type waries from utopian to plain retarded.

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>>128634799
Taxes are the bedrock of civilization.

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>>128634799
I don't know when exactly it was that people mistook race realism and hatred of niggers for actual national (((socialism)))

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/pol/ is a mob of teenaged shitskins that can't decide what they are without rubbing their faces all over a plate of tendies.

>>128638834
Oh shit don't wake up the AnCaps!

>>128634799
Statism, but with limitations on government.

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>>128634799
What's preventing a powerful "statist" state/military from subjugating you? Good luck forming any reasonable form of resistance without rulers.

>>128639467
The point is that that Reich soldiers themselves would have been better off with anarchism instead of dying in the Siberian tundra.

>>128638536

every society that has been made has crumbled because humanity can't be contained.

the only constant is change yet conservatives exist.

All failed ideologies like communism and nazism, base their utopias on agreement, while humans will never agree, that should be the basis for politics (them not realizing it is just another reason why politics isn't a science)
A system should thrive on disagreement, and we should choose it based on its worse possible outcome, rather then its "hopefull" best possible. There is a reason communism and nazism failed.

>>128639205
Sounds like you

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>>128637897
lolno

old /pol/: natsoc
new /pol/: LE TRUMP AMIRITE? xD $0.02 HAS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT! SAGE AND REPORT SLIDE THREADS! NAZI LARPERS ARE SHARIABLUE SHILLS! PRAISE KEK! SHADILAY! SLAVS ARE WHITE!

>>128640026
>inb4 "dem jews mah nigga"

>>128639467
The state military at the very least consists of our people so there's chance of them not going openly against their own kin.
Doesn't work every time to be sure but there's nothing better you can get.

And what's the chance on anarchy not being subjugated by foreign power which won't give a shit about your people?

>>128634799
The idea that the sum total of advanced human organization rests at the lone stipulation that we do no harm to each other cannot possibly have anything to do with civilization and greatness

>>128634799

Being stateless just means that the first unified nation of people who comes along is going to fuck you up and take your shit.

there has never been any historically claimed instance of An-Cap society.

>>128640026
What is your ideal state annon
Sounds like a anarchist shithole
My great grandad went into the anarchist side of spain in the civil war (anarcho syndicalism) my grandad told me it was a total shithole to live there

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>>128637666
I choose Christian State

>>128634799
Fascist

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>>128640878
It's the only right choice.

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>>128640878
>>128642774
>no BBW Christ-chan pr0ns

Maximum sadness.

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>>128640597

aslong as people choose their shithole i don't have any problems with it. My ideal state is local direct democracies, and they can come together by making a national collective community ect.

The 4 principles are a fact no matter how one looks at it
1. no one agrees
2. change is constant
3. humanity can't be contained
4. its the worse possible outcome that one should look after, not the best possible. As every society can be an utopia, the question is how bad it is when it all goes wrong

In the end the ideal world might look alot like the wolrd today, some stupid niggers and white niggers fucking up, and you being forced to move to a country/community that fits you better.
I just hope people realize that anarchy is the state we live in, and that its visable when one looks at the internaitonal community rather then their authoritarian local community. You are never free within a society, and thats fine, just choose your chains rather then letting them being force on you.

Good luck /pol/acks with your ideal soceity, people will vote with their feet or their strenght when they disagree enough
pic ironically related

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>>128643028
That's degenerate as shit anon, I know the pain of having a fetish but Christ-chan is off limits.

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>>128637666
>reactionary militarist dictator
>anarchist
Pinochet was a capitalist but he sure as hell wasn't an anarchist

>>128634799
its statist right now but when september rolls around i figure it'll probably go back to memeing an-cap