What went wrong for islam? How did it grew so violent and out

>>128625744
Muhammad.

Islam is not violent you mother fucking racist islamophobic piece of shit
islam is peace may allah burn you

>>128626404
this, death to OP, read the koran you bigotted fag

>>128625744
> Where did it all start?
In its inception. Muhammad was the Joseph Smith of his era, but instead of manipulating Anglos in America he manipulated Bedouins in the Arabian peninsula.

>>128625744
Around the 600 AD

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>>128625861
fpbp

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>>128625744
>What went wrong for islam?
Women weakened it.
They got reckt by mongols.
Went full retard over it.

>>128627544
>sexing a loli
>bad
normies need to leave

>>128625744
Islam has been violent from the day Mohammed went from Mecca to Medina.

The Quran will never change, its interpretation never reform. It will always create jihad.

The solution is for there to be no more muslims. The Quran will sit on academic library shelves, a mere curiosity of history.

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>>128627557
Same thing that's happening to the west.
It appears the curse of development is seeing women as people.

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>>128625744
>How did it grew so violent and out of touch?
Wtf are you talking about man? Islam was never a nice, peaceful, religion which became corrupted.

It was founded by a child-raping, slave-trading, warmongering Arab. It's ALWAYS been fucking violent. It's the only major religion founded by a fucking violent pedo and immediately spread exclusively by war against other religions.

>>128627641
wat

>>128627557
The corruption of women I've heard about before in this context and it's no surprise - it's always what happens.

But blaming the Mongols is bullshit - The Russians/Poles/Chinese suffered far, far, fucking worse under the Mongols than did the Arabs/Persians.

Anyway Islam was never 'right' so it can't ever have 'gone wrong'. It was founded as a violent warmongering cult by a pedophile 7th century Arab.

>>128625744
>How did it grew so violent and out of touch?

There was never a time when Islam wasn't violent. It used the whites of the former Zoroastrian religion to do its science and when the last of them were mixed out of existence or escaped, it finished falling into the stone age. I butchered innocents from day one.

>>128628325
But there were Medieval rulers such as Saladin and Mehmet II who were secular and completely different to how most Islamic leaders rule their country today.

>>128627641
"it became a hate spewing machine" - It always was. Disregard Aisha for a moment. The religion was spread through the sword, it was forced on people. As it is at the moment. It never changed, which was the question of the post. When did it 'change'. What "happened". Nothing happened to it, it only moved here.

>>128628325
Obviously its not a single thing. But at the time the intelectual elite (hellenophile) and the fundamentalists were battling it out and the sacking of Baghdad was the beginning of the end for the hellenophiles and the rise to dominance by the fundamentalists.
There is no guarantee it wouldn't have happened without it but most certainly sealed the deal when it did.

>>128625744
It was founded my a warlord.

What did you expect?

And that asshole Mullah (or whatever he was) back in the 14th century who decided math was "satan's language" made sure that ignornace became a virtue.

The last chance for modern civlization was Kemal Ataturk.

But that's been squandered now as well.

>>128625861
FPBP

>>128625744

Here's what went wrong with Islam:

>>127095105

Cbf to post it all again but at least it's archived. TL;DR hadiths are the problem. If you have anything else to ask feel free to do so.

Le Young ((((((Turk))))))

>>128625744
>Islamic Golden Age

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The West grew decadent, weak, psychologically unstable, and self-loathing, courtesy of hardcore Marxist brainwashing through the education system and entertainment industry.

Weakness is provocative. Muslims undoubtedly respected and feared Westerners pre-WWII. Two world wars may have been simply too much for the West to survive with respect to pride, moral, and identity.

>>128630281

this

>>128625744
If you analyse it rationally.

There are no prophets.

Men cannot be Gods or in touch with them.

He was a mentally ill Arab, who literally committed acts that would make mass murderers today look like a Saint.

Until we snap out of our collective irrationality, elevating despicable charlatans to god-tier status without any evidence, humanity will always be in the gutter.

It seems you need a history lesson OP...

Part 1) https://youtu.be/guXBTgAxhIw

Part 2) https://youtu.be/_Z_RAbOJcu0

>>128630281
>Westerners pre-WWII
No such thing retard
"western" is a general term for American influenced society, shit out by Jewish propaganda books post-WWII. Read any fucking book pre-WWII, you won't find the term "western". /pol/ is so fucking retarded some times....

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>>128633275
Arthur de Gobineau - Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races, 1853–1855

Arrogant retard.