HAPPENING

>>128623194
Can anything Soros says be trusted though?

>>128623194
>any day now
>ANY
>DAY
>NOW

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>when is crashes, it's going to be twice as bad as 2008
>tfw Portugal came out of 2008 not 1 year ago

>>128624608
your gonna need a bailout from Angola after this one goes down

>>128624015
You can trust him to tell you how he can make more money.

>>128623194
>what is the VIX
>how does it work

I'd also like to point out that in the '87 "crash" markets had completely recovered the following day.

Honestly, look at PMI, U2, all the big metrics. Everything's fine, at least if you have money in the market.

>>128624608
>PIGS
>recovered
ha

I hadn't heard about this. Selling all my shares rights now, buying gold and MREs. Thanks for the heads' up, OP. Enjoy some Reddit gold!

>>128623194
I'm just going to buy a house. Should I wait?

>>128623194
Housing has been too expensive for well over a generation.
Rent too. It's just too damn high and there are more abandoned homes now than we have homeless people.

>>128625423
>what is deception

it's ogre

>>128625944
if it's to live then yes

>>128626025
Exactly. Why would he ever tell anyone the truth or try to help somebody other than himself or his agenda?

For all any of us know, the market could be bound to keep going up, and he's just saying it's going to crash to create a run on the banks.

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>>128626025
The best way to lie in my experience is to tell the truth. People still won't believe you.

>>128625944
Yes...you should put it off for six months and then pay 110% of what you would have paid today.

>>128623194
>C'mon goyim, do a bank run! Surely you must be feeling the panic!

>>128625440
can you give me the basic gist of VIX?

>>128626281
Lol

>>128625423
soros says market will crash and asks everyone to short/ sell
but soros is a jew, we should do the opposite of whatever he says
but the jew will also try to con you into throwing away your riches, while he invests in it while it's cheap
but what if the jew is telling the truth and warning us
but jews never tell the truth unless it's for his own benefits
but his benefits relies on you making a mistake, which he claims is, which may be true, but by a jew
...

>>128623194
i REALLY want a huge crash, something that will unleash a riot or conflict

>>128625440
>notsureifserious

The markets are a complete hoax. Feather volumes and a 1:1 correlation between central-balance balance sheets and more or less all asset classes.

As soon as we start watering-down the punch-bowl we are allllll fucked. And not fucked in the way most people like to fuck, but fucked in the way that elton john likes to fuck.

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>>128626536
It's a derivative meant so that you can make automatic money when the market is volatile. So in other words, if you can't figure out how to play the market, just buy this magic index that plays it for you.

It's not a terrible hedge, but the more you look in to it the more wtf it gets and you realize that it's all jewish house of cards. It's been a while since I analyzed it for a friend, but it wasn't hard to find how close it is to going upside down at just the wrong moment.

This is the only chart you should pay attention to

http://www.macrotrends.net/2577/sp-500-pe-ratio-price-to-earnings-chart

>>128623194
Don't forget, our current FFR is near 0 as a leftover present from the Obongo years of fucking our country over economically. If the market crashes, we have no way of restarting it with normal monetary policy because they kept it at 0 for 8 years to make King nigger look like he did something right.

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>>128623194
As somebody who looks at charts all day, I can almost feel it's CRAVING to come back and test that fucking huge double top it broke out of. Yeah, it really does need to do that.

>>128626579
Correct! But if you are familiar with information theory, then you know that every move contains an information signal, and this is in fact actually amplified by how much noise you can cause for people not meant to receive it.

>>128623194
BUMP

>>128623194
>>when is crashes, it's going to be twice as bad as 2008

Which means a bailout twice as big as the last one :^)

>>128623194
>any day now
It better crash within this week or else I'm going to kill you OP

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Does this mean I can buy a nice house on the cheap soon? I don't need a boomer sized house, just enough to raise a few white children. Prices right now are ridiculous.

>>128626010
this it costs like 1500 for a 1 person apartment that is shit where I live near DC. Fuck this shit. I hope it crashes. I honestly do. Maybe I can afford a place here and go to school without having a miserable life just to pay rent and bills.

>>128627271
Can you explain that in layman terms to a dumb cunt like me?

>>128627712
No, it means all the rich will buy all the houses and then charge the same rent for them.

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>>128627775
>>128626010

>>128627604
It's rattling the cage. The way to win the game is to have already won before it's over. 100% predictable that this would start up as the geopolitical seas are getting rough. It's just the beginning.

>>128627712
If you need a house for your family and you're going to stay put, then start shopping and give it a while to see if prices dip or not. Think of a house as a money pit you need, kind of like you'll need to bend over for a family van or whatever.

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>tfw going to college next year
>tfw see this
Give it to me straight, how will I be effected

>>128628173
>going to college
>effected
Sorry, anon. It's too late.

>>128628173
>going to college
That was your first mistake. Enjoy your Marxism.

>>128628173
Don't go to college. Wagecuck and stay at home. Now is not the time to be getting into debnts

>>128626579
(((They))) could crash they market and he is just giving us our (((fair warning)))

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>>128628366
>>128628271
DESU, I was thinking I might drop out after first semester and join the navy, did you know we have rail guns now?

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>>128623194
>Stock market will crash
good

time for bitcoin to ascent to its rightful position as a global currency

>>128628563
Not just rail guns. More than that.

I don't have a firm opinion on joining the military. I hear a very large number of vets saying to steer clear of it. But if you don't get yourself killed, learn something, and come back out in a position to fund education or get a job or whatever, then I think that's probably not a bad idea.

>>128628563
Then why even go in the first place? Work at a shit factory or warehouse for a while and get a true taste of the drudgery of Emmanuel labor

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Well then I guess it's a good thing we have a real estate mogul as president ;^)

>>128626536
>>128626896

There's a particular formula used to price options (calls, puts, etc) called the Black-Scholes model, which uses a bunch of different inputs: price of the stock, strike price of the option, current short-term interest rate and a measure of volatility (standard deviation of returns).

What the VIX does is basically back out the implied measure of volatility indicated by current prices of options on the S&P 500. This supposedly gives an indication of what the market thinks volatility is going to be like over the next 30 days.

In practice, the level of the VIX is correlated at about 0.75 with what actual volatility ends up being over the next 30 days. That sounds impressive, but you find pretty much the exact same correlation between actual volatility over the previous 30 days and the subsequent 30 day period. Meanwhile, the correlation between the VIX and previous 30 day volatility is like 0.9, meaning that's pretty much what it's measuring.

>>128624015
He said that brexit happens and Trump wins. He is very redpilled, you are just his cattle.

>>128626655
Same, my friend, same... *sighs*

>>128624608
>Portugal came out of 2008
No you didn't, nobody has
None of us have come close to breaking even yet ffs
This "unprecidented growth" is literally just growth unhindered because we're so in the negative going up is increasingly easy
The '08 Crash saw the DOW go from 14,300 something to 6,800 or so.
The world market as a whole has gotten bigger in the decade since.
Therefore our gains aren't jack shit compared to what we were before the drop.
A lot of 2nd and 3rd world nations have been beefing up their market presence and as a result the market as a whole globally has gotten larger, but that's misleading because the market share has increased along with the markets expansion so it's not more money going to the same people it's more money going to the same people and then some causing profit margins to shrink
You don't drop 777 points in one day and just magically recover from it by driving your numbers back up. That's not how economics works

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>>128628729
Whenever I look into the military it seems kind of cucky
>recruitment websites/material push stronk wimen
>mandatory sexual harassment/assault training
But then I think college is that minus guns and appicable experience

>>128623194
>Trump upsets Jews
>They fuck over Jewish property owners to teach him a lesson

Woah... that really shoahed my goys.

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>>128628875
>Black-Sholes model
oh anon you're bringing back memories

>>128623194
FRIDAY: Total Economic Collapse Begins (9th Jun)
"LABOUR MAJORITY GOVERNMENT" will splash across the London newspapers by 1am GMT Friday morning.

Expect...

By 2am GMT, the pound and UK bonds will be in free fall and the Australian markets will be off a couple of percentage points.

An hour before London markets open, the European markets will be off 5 or 6 percent.

By opening, the London markets will plummet.

By Noon, London markets will be down 10% or so and they will start worrying about the US.

With no cards for the Fed left to play in terms of interest rates, New York will also start to slide as the dollar skyrockets.

As New York slides, any recovery has gone in London and a fall of well over 12% will have occurred by closing bell.

Now, propelled by the final sell off in London, New York will plummet and be off by over 10% by the closing bell.

Over the weekend, the dollar will continue to power ahead with bond prices tumbling. Attempts to stop failure by Government action will worsen things.

By Monday, Australia will plummet triggering another round of selling and the capital markets seizing up.

London and New York will follow.

...And, a few weeks later, US Banks will need yet more bailout or total failure will occur - whether they can or will get it, I have no idea.

>>128628935
>He said that brexit happens and Trump wins

While doing everything in his power to stop both of them from happening.

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>>128627868
The more I watch it, the more spooky and esoteric the market seems to be. But one thing is simple, it likes to come back to important places, and it like to do that to fuck as many people as possible.
That big M shape it went past in say 2011, that's a big level, and it really needs to come back and test it, and fuck as many as possible long term buy and holders before probably resuming. When this happens is another matter, but the other unfailing rule is that the big money will be selling to the mugs, at the peak euphoria, when 'this time it's different'. It applies on all time scales.
These principles when charted seem to apply to all human activities, pic related.

>>128628271
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>>128629197
yes, he is redpilled, but he isn't on your side

>>128629104
Well you'd probably want to aim for some technical part where you get skills, resume items, and free help on your way out.

Don't ask me or a recruiter though. There are plenty of military people around here who could give you better advice. What I will tell you is where I got my university degree is an eighth of an inch from being a cuckshed, levered only by looking like last time I was in Dubai.

>>128629196
That's correct - a Labour win would trigger this crash 100%

>>128626708
>but fucked in the way that elton john likes to fuck.
If the Jews have their way pretty soon that WILL be how most like to fuck
Regardless you are correct, I find it funny that your last middle finger to the Jews before real Germany died was to go even harder than the likes on shadow economics
Kind of endearing in the beauty of it's complexity

>>128629382
Right, and my point is that you can't trust shit he says, especially in this case, because you don't know what his actual intentions are. Keep up, Pavel.

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>>128628563
I went Army Infantry and it was the best decision I ever made. Skip college for now. Enlist for 3 years and learn a trade or learn to kill sandniggers. When you get out you can still go to college but you have the GI Bill. The government actually pays you to go to school and not be in debt.

>>128629415
You can go into law enforcement after the military right?
My grandfathers did that
One an Army MP
the other a sailor in the navy

Both became cops in NYC back in the 60s

>>128625440
>I'd also like to point out that in the '87 "crash" markets had completely recovered the following day.
That is utter bollocks. They didn't recover for quite some time. In-fact, the markets dropped even lower the next day.

>Honestly, look at PMI, U2, all the big metrics. Everything's fine, at least if you have money in the market.
t. bagholder trying to convince themselves that buying at ATHs with near record high valuations is sensible.

>>128627775
>it costs like 1500 for a 1 person apartment
It's like 900 here in Florida, and water and electric is included until you hit the limit(which 3 people could barely hit in a month let alone 1)
Why would you pay that much money to willingly live in DC which is one of the worst nigger areas in the country?

>>128629535
Alexander is more much popular name than Pavel or even Ivan in Russia.

>>128629689
I don't know anon. My grandfathers and grandmothers were all part of the war effort, and I have tremendous respect for that. But it's a different world today.

I make some of my money on military contracts, but that's quite a bit different.

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Id like to go to Soros place and just get wicked drunk with him. I bet he's a real dick when he's hammered. I'd love to just there awkwardly after he hit one of his servants.

>>128629579
join the army
get deployed to shit arab country
get shot, survive
come home
have ptsd
va doesn't care
kill yourself
wow, life

>>128629689
Maybe it's not my place to answer, but be young. Pick something you like in the military and be directionless for a while. The Jews want you to think it's a big rush but it's not. Do your time, think about what you want to do long and hard, and then use that GI bill.

>>128627880
Later friend of mine right after the crash went and purchased literally entire blocks in the southern part of the city(they were nigger residents) then proceeded to demolish all of them and turned them into nice homes for middle class people to live in and effectively de-niggerfied the area

>>128629415
then you get ordered around my some woman who thinks shes hot shit b/c she sucked cock to get e-5. Be a man and go infantry. Get toughened up and used to dealing with normal people and chads. Get out and use the GI bill knowing you didn't LARP soldier like some pussy pog.

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>>128623194
is there a way an average Joe could profit from a market crash?

>>128629196
> Australia will plummet triggering another round of selling and the capital markets seizing up.

I dont think the rest of the world gives a fuck about the ASX. Its the hong kong and Jap markets you need to watch from our time zone.

>>128624608
At least you dont have that many followers of the religion of peace blowing you to pieces.

>>128628563
>now
The Navy was test firing (successfully) rail guns 5 years ago at other naval vessels in government owned lakes.
The only thing that's changed since then is how they power it

>>128630275
Gold

>>128630045
That's sad. There was this one AF girl I used to aim to sit behind during meetings because she's hot af and sharp as a tack and she likes to look up all kinds of things on her laptop while she's supposed to be paying attention.

But to be honest she's obviously a nut and not proper housewife material. Just kind of an alluring idea.

>>128628729
>if you don't get yourself killed, learn something, and come back out in a position to fund education or get a job or whatever
Navy Core of Engineers
You'll come out smart as a motherfucker and literally never have to worry about money ever again(plus you'll be far better at booby traping your home than I'll ever be)

>>128630275
Just when you think it cant get any worse buy buy buy

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>>128623194
so should I buy a house before or after this crash? how long should I wait for this supposed crash? I want a fucking house.
and why do you suppose a crash would impact the price we puny insect goyim pay for a house, considering the (((Federal Reserve))) can and do manipulate any market they want at any time with selective PPT/QE injections?
you think just because it happened this one way this one time, it will happen again the exact same way now in an era when the Fed is constantly hemorrhaging QE cash out of its bleeding asshole?
exactly what significant bubble do you suppose is going to pop?
student loans? but they aren't allowed to discharge them, and trump isn't going to change that.
subprime auto loans? i can believe that, i hear ads on the (((radio))) saying "come to us with $25 and proof you have a job, and you will leave approved for a full loan for a brand new car"

>>128629104
Give it time, Trump wants results and hates negative Ines
When women start seeing actual combat and begin to be put in actual life and death situations they will be shown for the frauds they are and their inclusion into combat and coordination duties will be revoked and they'll go back to be only nurses and Intel like they should be.
Ffs only 2 women made the green berets(one of which actually didn't finish until her 4th attempt which isn't even supposed to be legal since you only get 3 tries and if you fail that you get kicked) and the other one only made it on her 3rd try and she almost tucking died.
The diversity bullshit won't last

>>128630777
Always buy before a crash anon.

Buy high
Sell low

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>>128625944

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>>128630275
sell futures
good luck with getting the timing right, you'll probably sell just before the main retracement, get stopped out, fuck this thing, it's going up, go long, it falls like a rock. You sit there watching it completely tank, fuck it, force yourself to sell again right into the V spike back up, you kill yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1xqSZy9_4I

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>>128623194
Bitcoins gonna explode

>>128629579
>When you get out you can still go to college
Mistake
If you didn't learn anything in the military that can get you a job going to school is pants on head retarded

>>128623194
FRIENDLY REMINDER
SOROS HAS BEEN NET SHORT SINCE TRUMP WAS ELECTED
HES FUCKED

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>>128631298
does that mean it's going to go up or down?

>qatar just got dropped by all its bros

quick, someone redpill me on the petrodollar

>>128629909
>Awkwardly
>Not asking if you could beat the servant around yourself

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>>128623194
Lies. You guys are fags. Believing that one LARPer. Seriously pol?

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>>128629909
WTF now i want to hangout with soros unironically. Bet he has the best hookers and blow too...

>>128626896
>just buy this magic index that plays it for you.
go look up what contango and backwardation mean, they're important concepts when dealing with the futures market, be it the VIX or oil.

>>128629917
>have ptsd
PTSD doesn't exist
If you get it you were never meant to be in the military in the first place
Every cunt with functioning motor skills and working genitals are not capable of being in the military. You have to have balls, and be an actual man
If you got PTSD it's because you weren't cut out and lack a spine

>>128631472
SOROS makes all his money starting problems then betting on failure and collapse.

>T. British pound

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>>128623194
OMG GUYS ITS HAPPENING

ITS CRASHING HOLY SHIT ITS REALLY HAPPENING

>>128631333
I used my GI Bill to learn to fly helicopters and get a degree at the same time. Not a bad deal.

>>128631667
>contango and backwardation
So important, folks, so important.

That used to be like the first thing that came up back when you'd never heard of VIX and the other one before.

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>>128630634
>Woman
>In the military
>Wife material

>>128631780
Is this real

>>128631780
the dow is down 20 points after sky rocketing 4,000 points in the last year.
>its not crashing

>>128631298
Ghost is gunna lose his mind

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>>128623194

Praise Jesus. I will finally be able to afford a house.

>>128631387
bitcoin kind of correlate with the S&P 500, so what do you think. Buy coinz today

>>128631387
Up. It will only show how stable bitcoins are, and thus attract more big investment companies.

>>128631780
>not even a whole percent

Nope.

Interesting times to be 19 years old.

>>128631799
Online classes?
Like I said should learn a trade in the military, with them as a reference you'll never be short of work or hiring options
Especially in the US since lots of places actually list you as priority

>>128632132
think of all the younger teens who are gonna be so redpilled in the future

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>>128632130
>a brit not being able to detect sarcasm

>>128631896
hey man on one side my grandma was in WAAF and that's how she met my grandpa :(

Oh what easier days those were, it seems

>>128632132
>Interesting times to be 19 years old.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU STUPID FAGGOT
>t. 2008

>>128632202
>Eurocucks
>Redpilled
Toppest of keks
The large size of coming up generations are so vast that cherry picking kids as "redpilled" will seem like an average due to the sheer scope of it
The majority of them are fucking homos and bluepilled cuck just like my generation

>>128623194
soros has been betting on a market crash every quarter for 2 years now and been wrong every time. his fund is shit.

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>>128627271
what did they mean by this

Greece is going africa-tier if 2008 happens again.

>>128632199
no I go to both an actual college and a flight school at the local airport.

Also learning to kill sandniggers IS a trade. We'll get to use that skill set when the civil war finally kicks off.

one thing is for sure, whatever bad thing the Jews do to trigger the crash, they will pilpul a way to blame it on whitey and/or muslims, and never ever stop blaming them

>>128631298
There are a lot of hedge funds in bit coin. If we have a market correction they are going to pull out of it and go into bonds

>>128626536
>>128625440
reminder that the VIX is broken

>>128623194
This crash is going to be EPIC. however, it will suck ass for 99% of the world. On the bright side, we got WW3 to look forward to.

>>128632341
>WW2
>Anything like it is today
Prior to the 1980's is okay
Anything after and they're a retarded whore or a retard to legitimately thinks women are just as good as men

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>>128623194
Who here long cash?

Got 31 grand in my bank account ready to buy the dip.

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>>128631339
Further reminder that he has to sell into an uptrend, because he's too fucking big to buy muh dip. Additional reminder that he can sit out a lot of shit, not for ever, but a lot.
So, maybe, maybe not.

>>128632596
vix isnt broken its just meaningless

>>128632444
your trips doesn't convince me

Whites have risen before they can do it again

literally every white kid in my former school will vote for the anti-immigrant party

the deeper we go into multiculturalism the more they will wake up

>>128632675
how long have you had that position?

why not be in a money market mutual fund atleast jesus christ

>>128632658
One of my favorite things she said to me was that she believes a woman's best place is in the kitchen, but that the best man cook would always be better than the best woman cook.

She's so wise.

>>128632675
Hello fellow cashman

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Are we seriously paralleling the Weimer Republic?

>Economy crashes hard while the government injects more liquidity to help it recover
>Spend almost a decade living in a degenerate identity politics filled world
>Populism starts to rise since people despise what society is coming to
>Economy crashes much harder and the bubble that society used to live in has popped
>Populism grows stronger while countries become more nationalistic while overthrowing their former governments
>World War breaks out

The similarities are mindblowning

>>128632584
>Implying you need training to kill dunecoons or any other kind of shitskin for that matter
Anything is easy to kill when you lack apathy for Sub-humans that aren't your own race
You're wasting time hombre(the school part not the flight school)
Should have taken online courses when you were in the military if you were really gunna go to school

>>128632771
My savings account earns 1.05% APY which is better than any MMMF offers.

>>128632888
Checked. What memes and dreams are you buying when the shit hits the fan?

>>128623194
meanwhile, it goes up and up and up

>>128632893
>Weimar
Rather try Paris 1789

>>128632985
how long have you been holding?

>>128632675
Good luck getting access to your 31k when this mother crashes.

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>>128632589
Oh they'll blame it completely on Trump, just like they did based Hoover
But unlike with Hoover they're trying to do it now and that's a terrible idea because you have a money mogule running the nation and giving him literally years to fix an economic fallout. Hoover only had a few more the so they could easily point at what he was doing to try and fix it as "ineffective".
Trump will wipe away their shitty attempt at economic collapse and while the whole world is floundering we'll ascend even higher

>>128633168
if its in a bank account it has fdic. literally the safest thing you can hold

>>128632675
>implying we won't have massive bail ins and there won't be $0 in your account

top kek.

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Technical Analyst anon here. Chances are way above normal that the market could crash. Doesn't mean it will, but it is poised for at least a short term correction. Risk of being long is significant.

>>128633291
if you trust any institution of authority with your property you are mentally ill human garbage that deserves to lose everything. kys.

>>128632709
>the deeper we go into multiculturalism the more they will wake up
You better hope so Sven
But remember, that means fuckall if your women keep popping out brown babies. Mullatos will ruin your genetic consistency and slowly turn you into brown people just like it did spain, Italy, and Greece if you aren't careful.
>>128632879
Like the madman Gordon Ramsey says," women are cooks, only men are chefs".

>>128633083
Since about March.

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>>128632893
Not even close

>>128633363
correction?

according to people itt even savings accounts and national banks are going to be wiped out , all houses not payed for fully will be repossed and martial law will be declared where gold will be the new standard currency
>>128633458
I started with 10k in 2009 after the last crash and made over 500k trading equities since then. cool story

>>128630275

Sure theoretically it's possible.

It's much much more likely you get burned hard trying to do it though.

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>>128631724

>>128633779
so you missed the huge bull run after french election but thats about it.

if the crash doesnt come soon you wouldve been better off just holding

>>128633201
Please God let this happen

>>128633643
Right? So what's all this garbage about women in the military all about? I have yet to encounter a single military man who doesn't think it's laughably ridiculous, let alone those who say it's terrible to put our women in danger instead of protecting them.

It seems inconceivable to me, particularly when there are so many jobs, cook, secretary, or whatever that need to be done. My other grandmother tested transistors to build radios for the war effort, and she was so good at it she bossed the other girls in to line.

>>128633291
It's more of a liquidity thing.

>>128632614
>>>128623194 (OP)
>This crash is going to be EPIC. however, it will suck ass for 99% of the world. On the bright side, we got WW3 to look forward to.

Does this crash affect me? I am 30 and and I live in my mom's basement.

>>128633787
The 08 recession was much greater than the one in the late 70 as the entire world almost fell into a depression. Everyone lowered interest rates to record lows and the Fed overprinted money.
Since then numerous bubbles have formed and have inflated much larger than the one 10 years ago. The EU is losing control while its countries desperately need bailouts while the US is falling apart socially and economically as it hardly recovered from the 08 crash

Honestly the Recession of 08 was the practically the end of the world and right now were all in purgatory waiting for our sentences

>>128632594
>go into bonds that won't pay shit

Yeah no

>>128623194
The market will only crash when the majority of plebs are bullish. As of now the majority of plebs are bearish so sadly, we won't get the rational pullback.

>>128632560

nah, there will be an new tier if it happens again African tier will be above it.

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>>128632474
can I hav proofs :DDDD

>>128635065
Folks like Soros don't trade on inside information. They're the agents of the people who create the inside information.

>>128632594
Your average tom, dick or harry wont go into bonds

>>128634877
absolutely nothing threatens the financial system of the US nor the EU. prove me wrong

>>128635408
What about your average abdul, salam, or abdul salam?

Where is the mohommed growth market?

>>128626010
Another reason we need immigrants and refugees, rents and housing would become increasingly cheaper if there aren't enough people to rent to. Gotta keep those prices high and juicy for as long as possible.

>>128631724
>I'm so tough I never joined, but all those really tough people who joined were just babies because they cry themselves to sleep and murder themselves.

>>128631185

Pretty much this. If you're along this kind of question then you shouldn't try to play the market. You'll only fuck yourself. Hard.

>>128634780
Only if your mom is leveraged to the hilt, and loses her house.

>>128634914
bonds always trade at a premium during downturns in equity markets
>>128635408
ya but its the whales that move btc, not all the virgins on /biz/

>>128635635
Except the Federal Reserve and the Eurocrats
If the Euro fails then Europe is absolutely fucked while the U.S is still floating because of the petrodollar as well as over-printing of money. If countries decide to not trade oil in USD then the inflation rate will skyrocket to the point where a can of Coke costs four dollars

>>128636485
Our vending machines already accept twenties and return change in fivers.

>tfw it used to you can use them to put in a dollar and get quarters
>and what they vend is actually worse

>>128636762
things are only more expensive now because they are of vastly superior quality compared to the past. we should be grateful for this.

>>128626579
I think he's trying to buy it from you for cheap and wait on the market to balloon further, then sell it back to you for 110% more than you sold it. Then the market will crash.

>>128633893
It's possible. The house of cards will collapse at some point. I think everyone should have a significant amount of gold, guns, water and food at all points, but it's a fool's errand to trade the stock market as if one knows exactly when it's going to happen. Also, in a worldwide collapse, money could flow into the US markets because of perceived comparative safety. Who's to say. I have no crystal ball.

That said, this is one of those moments where the risk to owning stocks is quite high, so I'm long only a few mining stocks atm.

>>128637178
Tell that to me and when I bought garbage food for everything less than a dollar.

But hey you can pay $4 for an old bottle of starbucks sugarburst if you want.

Please crash so I can buy a house.

>>128637531
I just dont see what the huge risk is.

There is incredible economic growth in china/india. Rest of asia is growing quite nicely as well. US and Canadian economy has picked up. Emerging markets aren't great but they never are.

Equity valuations are so high right now because there is an incredible amount of wealth being created in the world

Market crash will trigger nuclear war

>Tfw renting, cash and bitcoin on hand, no money in the market

Ready for the bloodbath.

>>128637872
The huge risk is uncertainty. That's why normies flock to VIX and bitcoin and magic government pensions.

Just the other day NPR ran a story about how the problem was people didn't want high paying jobs anymore because they wanted jobs the could count on to have tomorrow.

And people wonder why everything is tipping toward communism on purpose and can't see it coming. Holy Christ.

>>128623194
Good. Then Trump will have a mandate to start arresting the jews that did it.

>>128634026
>Implying I'm not right
If you can't handle seeing people dead or killing people or losing friends in battle what the actual fuck are you doing in the military then?

Money is pouring back into the country and the future looks very bright for the USA. Especially if he reforms the tax code. I'm not saying there won't be a correction at some point but it should be short lived and the next ten years should be as prosperous as the last ten have sucked.

Good thing i just rejoined the Army so i can ride this one out.

>>128638157
What is the uncertainty about?

political? Trump was elected and people said that would crash the US stock market but it didnt even move the needle.

Fiscal? Yes there is *maybe* long term fiscal problems in the US and other western country but things like social security arent insolvent for atleast another 40-50 years so that cant be priced in right now.

Growth? Like I said most of the worlds major economies are chugging along very nicely right now, in fact its the best global growth we have ever seen.

>>128623194
QUICK!!! What should i buy?????!!!!????!!!

>>128634201
Liberals, plain and simple
Motheruckers have been pushing for it since the 80's and once they got it they wanted to open up more and more areas to them so that they could weaken and make the military less effective. Because with our military nobody will ever have the balls to outright ho to war with us.
But if our military magically because 50% women well then who the hell wouldn't be trying to take us over
Army literally had to erase fitness requirements so that women could actually pass muster at boot camp in double digits numbers

>>128638231
We have been on a bull run of 8+ years right now.

People say it can't continue another 10 because that would be unprecendented, but I dont see why not

>>128623194
>market crashes
>again
>the eternal jews keep making billions of money out of the common John's wallet with their greedy finance
>people born in the 90s that has grown up with the constant fear and terror of the crisis and the lack of job finally get sick with the jewish shit
>globalisation dies in 20 years, killing the jews, their finances and their crisis the same way a lack of oxygen puts out a fire
>BRICS and 3rd world countries will go back to be shitholes
>Europe and the west live in harmony, in self respect and with their national identities
I really, really can't fucking wait

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>>128634877
>almost
Also I'm not saying it was worse I'm just saying that we are re-living the 70's and the Jews are doing it on purpose

>>128637178
The prices are what people willing to pay. Productivity has gone up and the cost of production has gone down, yet prices increase because people are willing to pay it.

>>128623194
On scale from 0-Rake how fucked is Canada?

>>128638523
if you believe the market will crash, quadruple leveraged inverse s&p500 etfs.

market crashes by 25%, you gain 100%

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>>128623194
>tfw bought gold instead of btc

>>128636466
To an extent, but this latest rise was caused by your average shinzo, takeo and masato

>>128638501
Try living on debt month to month and wondering how you're going to pay the bills.

And now people are out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars with no expectation of being able to pay it back, and the government made a pact with the banks that there is no such thing a default.

Try it. It's pretty crushing, psychologically. How do you think Communist Bernie got so many people raging?

>>128638590
When the world gangs up on burgerland and annihilates every living thing on the continent, NOTHING of value is lost. Fucking fake-jew parasite.
>>128638766
You can't honestly say they're willing if they lack other options.

>>128638776
Yey me?! I got cash, literal cash. I don't want it to lose value

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>>128623194
"Market is gonna crash!" says increasing nervous insider for the 10th time this month

>>128638501
>political? Trump was elected and people said that would crash the US stock market but it didnt even move the needle.
It definitely moved the "needle", just upwards. There was a ton of futures trading happening during the night.

>>128635759
>Cry themselves to sleep
>Tough
That ain't how it works faggot
Either you're cute out to be a soldier or you're not
You can be physically prepared for it all you want but if you're mentally weak you're not going to last and you will get ptsd
My neighbor has it really bad and he still struggles with not killing himself weekly(since you're clearly against what I'm saying because you know someone) but that doesn't change the fact that he was too mentally weak to be in combat and he never should have been
Stop being a fucking pussy and realize that not everybody is cut out to gun down other people

>>128638590
Then I'd like to see more woman marches with pussy tit hats about how awful it is they have to meet the fitness requirements.

wenches.

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>>128638773

10/10 cucked

>>128629104
Say you join at 18... You have a solid 20 year career and retire at 38. You will collect a 60% pension. In Canada, you will probably retire as a Warrant Officer. Highest a WO can get in terms of pay, last I checked, was $92k. At the age of 38, you will retire with useful job skills, experience in that field and a guaranteed income of about $55,000.

Add that to what ever job you get on the outside and you should be pretty comfy. The military has absolutely the best pension around.

>>128623194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-oBwi4vv_c

>>128636485
No it won't
It'll force our politicians to finally let us go self sufficient again
We have enough oil to last ourselves 500 years if we wanted to completely rely on ourselves for oil.
Severing our ties with foreign oil(which would be a death sentence for you since 60% of our oil comes from Canada) would do us just fine.
Economically we really don't need anyone else and protecting our domestic market would not be hard

As a basement dweller that lives with mommy what should I be worried about?

>>128623194
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>>128639594
Start with the basics. Water filter (yes, they do work) stock up food, etc. The usual.

Think: what would you need to ride out a bad storm where all the roads were shut down for a month or two?

>>128624608
at least you came out :^)

>>128639712
>>>128639594 (You)
>Start with the basics. Water filter (yes, they do work) stock up food, etc. The usual.
>Think: what would you need to ride out a bad storm where all the roads were shut down for a month or two?

I do work and make okay money to survive. I guess I should stock up on healthy foods and what I need to survive.

>>128639281
You won't
They don't draw attention to it anymore because more and more of them are realizing that if enough attention is put on it they'll be shitcanned as an entire gender because looking at just the naked numbers shows women in the military not only are a tactical nightmare but actually costs the military more money than an all male force would.

>>128639904
Keep a notebook of everything you buy on a given day. That will help you understand what it is you need to live off of.

Then buy 2x as much of it.

>>128623194
buy your gold now faggots

>>128637872
The problem is that all macro economic data around the world is compromised and massaged to get the desired result so that politicians can stay in office based on the fake economic data. Just like how our 4.3% unemployment rate is a total farce. All presidents (all of em in my lifetime at least) want to corrupt data to look like they are economic geniuses. They do the same with CPI to keep COLAs down for SS. A wise man once told me, "never believe anything until it's officially denied" when it comes to economic stats, reports, hype, etc.

That's why I use TA only for trading. It is always the same. Price action on a chart is purely a gauge of greed and fear, which are universal and timeless.

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>>128623194
>it will crash
>this time for real

>>128639904
>>128639712
its a market crash not a total collapse.

Get out of stocks now (obviously)
Get out of cash too

>>128630777
If there's a crash, you might luck out and your mortgage holder goes out of business.

>>128636485
>petrodollar

There are multiple petrocurrencies in play. OPEC only uses USD for quotes.

>>128625296
underrated banter desu

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>>128639517
>We have enough oil to last ourselves 500 years if we wanted to completely rely on ourselves for oil.

>>128640322
Markets are mainly psychological. The idea here is to stop out on what you need to not worry about what you need day to day so that you can ride the market waves without a care.

>>128632675
same. i don't understand this shit at all but it's crashing just when i'm wanting to invest.

i have 60k liquid to blow

>>128626281
Underrated post.

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>>128640256
the market will catch up to the hard data once investors realize the Trump tax cuts are definitely not coming any time soon.

Only remaining afloat now thanks to the possibility of world war

>128638677
> killing the jews, their finances and their crisis the same way a lack of oxygen puts out a fire
NOTHING kills the jews!

>>128640337
>mortgage holder goes out of business
Only to be sold at pennies on the dollar to some other bottom feeder. Sadly, debnts do not just evaporate so easily as that. You have to go full 1789 on the records themselves.

>>128640523
This is 100% wisdom.

>>128629917
Alternatively, don't be a sperg and come out well adjusted like most veterans.

>>128639369
that's if they dont force you out a year or two before 20

>>128640741
Would you believe learned this from army counterintelligence and came here 10 years ago to try to 'splain it?

>>128633291
If you think the federal government is going to pay fdic claims during an epic crash, you might just be a leaf.

>>128640741
you can wait out the crash and resulting recession if you have 10 years to spare - or you could lock in your gains by cashing out now - or maybe you aren't investing in which case this doesn't really affect you at all - but there may be opportunity to short

>>128623194
This is what we get for electing Drumpf

>>128623194

There won't be a crash, central banks will just apply QE and lower interest rates.

should i clear out my 401K and cash out now?

>>128641065
>all time highs

>>128641065
Roll it in to an IRA.

>>128633893
They won't kick 60% of home owners out of their houses, unless they really want to burn everything to the ground.

>>128640902
>markets are psychological
Oh man, the ancraps would hang you for such blasphemy.
>>128640987
Why wouldn't they, other than that the central bankers wouldn't want them to?
>>128641063
News flash: the President can still create money ex nihilo in the form of proof platinum coins. Bonus: it dilutes existing "shareholders" by which I mean entitled parasites and rewards new work.

>>128626655
Me too buddy, just think of what might happen, the video's thatll go online after a while will be gold

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>>128626655
Ok noob question,how is it going to affect the countries world wide? Should I pack up food and shit,way too many happaning,QATAR and now this.

BRING IT ON!!!

>>128638986
Well, no one is rioting over the price of food yet, so that's what I mean.

>>128623194
cant wait
was looking to buy a house soon

should i sell my house?

>>128631724
Post traumatic stress is a learned reaction to stimuli. It's real and causes problems for people. The trick to keeping it under wraps is being a self aware man with a dick and testicles that understands the honest to God unironic triggers that cause you to get upset. Don't play shit, nigga. It's a real thing that some people just can't handle.

>>128641529
Depends on the market, anon, and why you need or don't need a house, and where you're going to live next.

>>128629197
Playing both sides wow
You know he's a Jew right?

>>128623194
What happened in 2008?
That was a very good year for us, so should I expect better?

>Not posting a cloud of the market
Plebs

>>128641063
we'll be in zero rate land again, which doesn't get you anywhere.

more money in the system will catch up to us eventually.

Fed has to normalize its balance sheet eventually. currently central banks own something like 85% of all corporate bonds

>>128639930
what do women in the military do on their period?

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>>128623194
G-Germany's got our back right?

>>128641695
It was a good year for piling in to your relatively well-managed and oil-centric government fund.

Outside of very strange things happening, I would say keep doing what you're doing and you'll be better than average.

>>128623194

will the 1920-30's repeat for the 2020-30's?

>>128631724
Thinking sitting in a fort eating maccies is anything like real war. In actual war studies found something about 100 days continual fighting turns 98/100 men insane and the other two were insne to begin with (psychological issues ie psychopathic etc.)
Britian found it in WW1 as well or possibly it was WW2. Instead of resting our troops with the most combat experience we sent them straight into battle on new fronts. Despite the rationality that experience means better soldiers they performed poorly as hundreds of days of straight shelling and gun battles puts you so on edge that you turn insane. Can't sleep which makes it worse etc.

>>128628935
he said the exact opposite you dumb vodka

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>>128641902
I love these financial crashes. We end up buying property cheap as fuck and then rent it out to the host country. It's so jewish it makes me giggle.

>>128642337
Well, there's such a thing as "profit taking." When things are going well, consider selling off some and putting it into something else.

Diversity can be a good thing sometimes, since nothing free lasts forever.

>>128640902
Totally would believe it. Military knows about psychology better than anyone. They need to...it's hard to get people to say "how high?" when the brass says "jump" without knowing how humans tick.

I learned through trial and error mostly and from having worked in that God-awful financial industry (hated working for banks, I can confirm the evil. But I do love to trade) around the time of NASDAQ bubble and bust. Manias, boom/bust cycle theories are all the same, just rhyming throughout history all based on human psychology of greed and fear. Greed is longer lasting, hence bull markets lasting years. Fear is fast, violent, volatile and of shorter duration, hence bear markets are the same. Once people learn that, there is $ to be made trading both sides.

>>128642491
Where do you think all the black budget comes from?

Why play the game when you can rig it?

>>128642466
I'm sure we'll sell off anything not profitable. The fund is managed extremely profitable and is in the process of evaluating new kinds of risks and profits in the coming decades.

Short of a coup and extraction of the funds we're cool for a century.

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If it crashes under Trump it means that he'll be blamed for it, and no one will believe him when he claims otherwise.

It was a good run, eh /pol/?

>>128642806
of course he will be blamed - that is kind of the point of letting the crash happen

>>128626281
>Yes...you should put it off for six months and then pay 110% of what you would have paid today.
i don't get it

>>128642902
Nah, I doubt it was intentional. Just typical kike behavior, trying to bring down the economy so they can earn a few extra shekels.

>>128642805
You might well be right, even though I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. I haven't run the numbers in a while, but I'm still interested to see whether or not the Norwegian Kroner manages to play a role in the future monetary regime.

I kind of think it will not and just continue to ride along on its own, but don't tell the globalists that.

>>128641031
No one ever got hurt taking a profit. I'm slowly staging in some out-of-the-money puts, probably now through Sept. (Markets are most prone to sell offs in Aug-Oct). It's the best risk/reward play for me.

For disclosure, I'm not a high-roller. Just a guy who knows technicals and markets really well.

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>>128624608

>>128637872
part of the problem is the masses flocking toward risk parity passive investing products.

this will be the sledgehammer to the markets once they falter. there will be a huge wave of cash exiting once the momentum reaches critical mass.

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>>128641444
Who's got time to riot?
>wonders why history books for the proles are piled high with tales of rebellions put down and obedient slaves lauded

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>>128640653
updated:

>>128635670
The Mohammed growth market exploded recently.

>>128630275
Buy TVIX. But dont hold it.

>>128643690
What history books have you been reading?

>>128623194
ahh trumps gonna steal all the money to fund another war. Probably blame it on a stock market "crash"

>>128643877
The post-secondary ones with real research and real sauces, as opposed to the second-form ones that teach the workers to fear the weak.

>>128623194
WHY DID TRUMP DO THIS TO US?!

>>128643397

does anyone else see some similarities between quantum mechanics and economics?
The uncertainty principle seems quite applicable to markets. markets are whatever they are until someone comes in and touches them.

>>128644111
(Full house)
I presume you meant Trump's going to steal it on behalf of the deep state and the Wehrmacht.
>>128644430
Do you see what happens when you're so cucked to believe in something, anything greater than yourself? Or, as Vladimir Vladimirovich put it, "Do you realize what you have done?"

>>128624608
The retards predicting a crash don't realizethat this market is just now making it out of the last collapse. It just took that. Fucking. Long. We're 8 years from another crash. God help our fucking house prices.

Surprised it ever made it out given Detroit and niggers running things. Fucking
Obama.

>>128644572
>another fucking burger trying to pretend economics is a hard science rather than the shit theology it really is

>>128641845
>currently central banks own something like 85% of all corporate bonds

Fuck that's a messy bubble.
Why don't central banks buy bonds issued by me?

>>128644778
Fernando, you cannot even into mexico to build wall.

The interest rate just went 1% higher

>>128644757

T. self aware amerifat

>>128644572
i think the equitization of of risk can lead to some very unpredictable outcomes.

the phrase toxic assets comes to mind. And our exposure to derivatives is higher than it was in 08

>>128644757
>>128644757
hahahahaha i like that. im just pointing out a connection i made not shilling faggot this is a discussion board not your empire you insecure little shit

>>128640832
Well, if you're absolutely shit, that will happen to you. If the military is having difficulty with retention, your contract will be continued indefinitely. The US is big and they always have faggots churning through the military... But every other western military has trouble keeping guys, so it is a good bet if you act like an adult. It's a good bet in the US if you play your cards right.

I met a guy that started in the armored corps, came to the conclusion that he was a lifer and switched over to the Navy to become a welder. He was excited about going into underwater diving, which is really lucrative on the outside. Ultimately, if you can make it work and you don't have a better career lined up at that age already... There's no reason not to try.

>>128643133 del
Yeah, our little crown is gonna stay put. We may adopt the new IMF currency to back it but I think the crown will at least stay in name.

>>128641422
>food and SHIT
>Indian

No, leave all the poo in pooland.

>(((Soros)))

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>>128630275
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Buy now or regret it the same way you regret not buying btc when it was at one usd.

>>128625820
Isn't gold kind of a meme at this point?

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>>128623194
What is happening to the world? A full solar eclipse will take place in a few months, too. Have we truly awakened the darkest gods of chaos?

https://www.dailystormer.com/psa-an-age-of-ultraviolence-is-coming/

I WISH FOR THIS NIGHT TIME TO REST FOR A LIFETIME

>>128645189
Don't take the IMF bumfuck mate. They only want you because you might be important.

Consider BRICS. Where did that go? Nowhere. Be the aloof bastards you are and kindly say "no thanks." Your psychological nationalism is in some ways more valuable than your currency.

>>128640902
Hey SwissGuy, what's new?

Dow or Case Shiller 100y PE ratio is the bestest measure (it was around 17 back in 2007)...bottomed out at 7. Made some coin.

>>128645574
Never been to Switerzland, although I've had some /comfy/ discussions with them, particularly over the issue of the "small couldran" to melt cheese.

It's possible I'll go there later as an attache for medical outreach.

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twice as bad as 2008 you say? let me build a very tall platform and prepare the popcorn.

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>>128645549
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-02/deutsche-bank-admits-guilt-fraud-conspiracy-rig-precious-metals-markets
>Deutsche bank admits to rigging gold futures

Pic: QE at work

>>128623194
I sold 15% of my portfolio today making ~ 30% in cash

PE ratios are at nose bleed heights & growth is not coming & you got a mad hatter in the white house just itching to tweet the wrong thing

Stock's are juiced hoping tax cuts that may or may not materilize will boost earnings on paper

>>128623194
We're absolutely fucked. QE4 will be bigger than QE3, 2 and 1 combined. It will be the last shot of stimulus heroin before finally war.

i miss this part of /pol/
how do we keep the ball rolling?

>>128645568
We use BRICS, but they got kinda scared about it after the lil scandal broke.
I say IMF cause our government is run by a fat bun who accepts anything given with promising words.
Election soon so hopefully we'll make some scandidollar or something.

>>128646001
tax cuts will not come. this year or ever.
4% growth is meme of memes at this point

>>128645977
Holy shit, I had no idea markets were so stable. Well I'm convinced.

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>>128645977
gold price rigged? nooo

>>128645083
The economics muh profession has been pretending themselves smock-wearing particle physicists since the Austrian School, before particle physics was even a thing. Don't encourage them.
>>128644995
I dodged a lot of stupid programming.

>>128645834
How many army intelligence officers post here?!

>>128645079

I think that the Achilles heel of this whole set up is inflation. Everybody is massively indebted and interest rates are at historical lows.

>>128646203
A scandidollar would be very interesting. I think this is a great time to give a shot whether or not it works.

Whoever can figure out a better way for the EU will be sitting in the catbird seat.