Sudetenland | Arguing against History teacher

look up the Munich agreement

they were given it, how was it not justified? international community seemed to think so at the time

>>128609190
well, only reason i got was that the sudeten germans did not want it (no sources from her).
Hitler apparently just wanted to grab up more land.

She also said the sudeten germans never considered themselves german, but were just happy when the germans wanted to protect them. So they wanted to be part of germany, not because of their blood, but because of protection.
Any arguments against that?

>>128608760
bump

>>128608760
As I understand it, the Polish govt was extremely neurotic at the time, I've also heard claims that the poles oppressed ethnic Germans in Poland

Also, it was Rightful clay desu

>>128609946
don't have any source though, rigth?

>>128610242
I do not
I'll look around real quick

>>128610303
thank you so much

>>128608760
Because they signed a treaty with the other great powers of the world that gave it to them. What other justification would there be? And what is you're teacher talking about that sudeten Germans didn't consider themselves Germans. What else would they have considered themselves? People who spoke German were German that's all was to it. Bohemia was part of the Germanic states and confederations for over a 1000 years.

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>>128609560
>sudeten germans never considered themselves german
Because they considered themselves Austrian. Pic related arose out of the ashes of the KuK

>Germans in Austria, Bohemia, and Moravia assemble together in the wake of Slavic independence
>Neighbours refuse to trade with you
>Seek annexation into Germany
>Get broken up by Allies in the treaty of St Germain

>>128609946
That's not Sudetenland m8

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>>128610609
Ok here's a source that ethnic Germans settled parts of Poland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_German_settlement_in_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
Still looking

>>128610816
you are right! Thanks.
I completely forgot about how it was also part of austria-hungary and the holy roman empire!

btw, she also said Czechoslovakia is an "offensive" word, therefor we should adress the Czech part of Czechoslovakia as Czechia, and the slovak part as slovakia, even though these countries did not exist yet. Is this true?

>>128609946
The Sudetenland isn't in Poland what are you talking about? Maybe you're thinking of Danzig?

>>128608760
the ppl there were literally german and wanted to be part of germany

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>>128610609
Found even more info, take the source with a grain of salt
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

>>128608760
>Give me one reason why it was justified for germany to take the Sudetenland in 1938.

Because they signed the Munich Agreement which gave it to them.

This is like going to the store, buying some bagels, and having some faggot jump on you in the parking lot and go "WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE BAGELS???!"

>>128608760
>muh history teacher

I bet your (((history teacher))) also told you that hitler was a dick, and that the holohoax was real.

Grow up you faggot, or else you're next in the gas chambers

>>128611191
Nah, I'm just a dumb cunt who associates Poland with Sudetenland

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>>128611170
>btw, she also said Czechoslovakia is an "offensive" word

>>128611170
It might be offensive to people in those countries but if you're teaching is telling you you shouldn't say the actual name of the state that seems really extreme. Should we not call it Yugoslavia?

>>128608760
After the breakup of the Austrian Empire. Millions of ethnic Germans were forced to be oppressed minorities in countries that shouldn't have even existed (Czechoslovakia). Furthermore, much of the Austrian industrial base was effectively handed over to the Czechs. The Czech nationalist movement during WW1 was closely aligned with the Bolsheviks as well.

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/czechconspiracy/cc00.html
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/czechoslovakiawithin/csw00.html

Although the territory of the Republic represents only 22 per cent of the former Austrian Empire, it contains by far the greater part of its industries. In addition to the greater part of the textile industries, the Czech Republic has taken over the industries in the old Empire according to the following proportions:

Per Cent
Sugar factories 92
Breweries 65
Malt factories 95
Liquor industries 50
Glass industries 70
Leather industries 70
Chemical industries 75
Paper industries 70
Building industries 80
Ceramic industries 80

Cotton, wool, flax, jute, and silk industries vary from 75-95 per cent.
Of the 282 coal mines formerly in the Austrian Empire, 219, or 79 per cent, were included in the Bohemian province of the new Czecho-Slovak Republic.15

Out of the 13½ million inhabitants of the Republic in 1921 (Census), 2½ million were engaged in agriculture.

Is it not strange, then, that, as we shall see, having seized all the richest and most prosperous districts within the old Austrian Empire, the Czechs have, in the course of twenty years, succeeded in reducing German Bohemia to a state of destitution and misery with the highest rate of unemployment in Europe? (See Map 3.)

tl;dr The Deutsche Volk were fucked by Versailles

>>128611370
Don't you have a militia to be joining right now or something?

>>128611432
best reaction.
She said you czechs hate slovaks and vice versa, that is why we should not name it czechoslovakia back then

>>128610609
Also look up "100 documents from the war."
Every conflict Germany got into was over ethnic Germans in the land basically, and in Poland they were being discriminated against allegedly pretty badly, which the allies knew about and didn't care, and Poland dropped out of the League of Nations apparently because they required minority rights laws that Poland didn't respect. The conflict apparently went on for years while the nazis tried to deescalate in vain, and Poland apparently denied access to that north eastern plot of Germany land, cutting Germany off from its own territory.

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>>128608760
Mights is right
Fuck your faggot teacher and fuck you for arguing with him/wasting your time

>>128611709
It was at the express desire of the Czechs that the Sudeten German areas were included in the new State at the Peace Conference. It must be conceded that the Czech wish to possess so rich an industrial country was a natural one. Not only did the Sudeten [51] Germans play an important part in industrial affairs, but they were also large landowners in the German-speaking area, while their financial and banking houses had an influence in the economic field commensurate with that which they erected in the field of production.

With the object of weakening German economic power the Czechs started a campaign against this key position. At the same time the policy of Czech penetration was begun, with the object of converting the purely German-speaking areas into mixed districts.

The prevalence of large estates in the Sudeten country, as opposed to the relatively small number of small holdings, has led to agitation in favour of redistribution of land, even in pre-war days. This measure of land reform, however that may be, was undertaken by the Czechs soon after the creation of the Republic. They were not, however, actuated by a zeal for social reform; their action was purely national. "Land reform" was exploited by the Czechs as a means to the expropriation of non-Slav soil, and in order to permit of the settlement of Czechs in the German-speaking districts. While the Government claimed to be taking from the rich in order to give to the poor, they made no attempt at an equitable redistribution of the confiscated acres. Over 1,250,000 acres of German land were expropriated between 1921 and 1932, with the semi-officially admitted aim of weakening the German position. This land was acquired by the State against paid or promised indemnities amounting to a mere fraction [52] of its real value. Ninety-six per cent. of this land, all of which had been in German ownership, was allotted to Czech farmers.

>>128611170
You're dealing with an irrational progressive, you won't win any confrontation with them.

Even if you manage to find a scenario that destroys their world view, they'll ignore it, or worse, try to claim that x never happened.

The best you can manage is to give the teacher what they want, assuming you care about a good grade.

>>128612099
The German-speaking population lost one-sixth of their land and the formerly compact German enclave was now dotted with Czech cells. A negligible proportion of the land was returned to German ownership.

The German-owned forests were also confiscated by the State. In Bohemia alone 300,000 acres of forest land, 87% of the whole, were taken from their German owners, while the Czech forest owners in Bohemia lost only 13% of their holdings. Land reform was also used as a means to appropriate German industrial enterprises. Many German breweries, sugar factories and saw mills, shared the fate of farm and forest land. The so-called reform has been conducted in such a manner as to lead to the present-day possession by the German-speaking population of only 3% of the whole land in the Czech Republic, and has rendered acquisition of a larger proportion almost impossible.

This land appropriation was regarded by the Czechs as the most successful method of German denationalization. They adopted further means to [53] this end: The Civil Service became predominantly Czech. Czech nationalism was emphasized by the appearance of a horde of Czech police, customs officials, post office clerks, and the like; most of them chosen with an eye to the size of their families. They were soon followed by Czech business men and commercial travellers and attempts were made to introduce Czech working men. Wherever a Czech appeared a German lost his occupation, whether as official or labourer. In other words, he was deliberately deprived of his means of livelihood. Between 1918 and 1938 150,000 Czechs were "dumped" in German-speaking areas, giving rise to a commensurate increase in German unemployment figures.

>>128612231
that is where facts come into play.
You see, if i own her in front of my class, the other students will finally loose respect for that kike and break free from her.

at least that is what i hope

>>128608760
Fuck Czechoslovakia, that's why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WppUD9IpODU

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>>128608760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9tSIjcr0RA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y96vynlPWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCF9lzhDv8

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>>128611788
>Might is Right
>Lose both World Wars

Phew...

>>128608760
Actual Bohemian nobility here
We invited you to settle there, Hans
You were our friends and backstabbed us, so don´t fucking ever consider the Sudetenland as your rightful clay, you piece of deceiving bitch

>>128613590
>backstabbed
care to tell me how?

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>>128608760
see text below OP

>>128610816
you idiot.. prime ministers signing some shitpiece of paper is not justification. Munich treaty was null and void from the start because it was a clear violation of international laws prohibiting
1) aggressive assault war as a tool of international policy
2) forced changes of borders that are challenging Treaty of Versailles

also it was a treaty signed without expression of free will of one of its signators (czechoslovaks). We got sold by Frenchmen and Britons to calm down Hitler. It was called void when it was signed and also right after the war.

Because of that we got robbed of our national middle-age golden treasure - 100 tons of pure gold (with immense historical value), our industry and technology was hijacked for Hitlers war and after that we got fucked by commies for 40 years devastating economy, morals, church, willpower of people - we got sucked by SSSR... our future got stolen from us...

As far as your ignorance about Sudetes goes, Czechoslovakia gained sovereignty in 1918 with Germans in border areas as well as other places with huge German minorities (Brno city, Iglau, Prague) all pledging loyalty to newly formed state. German-ethnicity people in Czechoslovakia had not that much in common with Germans from Reich since they were living here (as you stated) for decades forming their own society. They got fanatic by propaganda (see "Heim ins Reich") and used as an excuse to break down democratic successful state.

>>128613590
That's like inviting Muslims into your land and not expecting them to demand it (see: India/Pakistan)

>>128613882
You're country shouldn't have even existed in the first place. Nevermind the part where you dispossessed all of those good willed German minorities soon after.

See >>128611709
Those are old books, not revisionist bs to be written off.

>>128613882
there were huge tensions between czechs and germans after ww I in borderlands especially but that was product of collapse of Austro-Hungarian empire and old world order in general. Germans were invig in our lands because
1) they were said to come by Czech rulers in 11th century because vast parts of Bohemia were unoccupied
2) they came in during decades of attempts to germanize Bohemia
but they were different from Germans living in Germany or Austrians/Hungarians speaking German language

>>128609560
>well, only reason i got was that the sudeten germans did not want it (no sources from her).

The Sudetenland had the highest rate of NSDAP membership in the entire Reich. Hitler and National Socialism were wildly popular there. Your teacher is an imbecile and a liar.

>>128614292
alright..never mind our 1500 years long history with emperors that were ruling Holy roman empire..gj murrica

Might makes right desu senpai.

>>128613747
You backstabbed us by playing the ones oppressed, when this asshole arrived:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Runciman,_1st_Viscount_Runciman_of_Doxford
So the Sudetenland was taken away, because you whined lies to him

>>128613893
We were in the HRE (basicly EU with monarchies) and had a lot of unused (and mostly mountainous) borderlands, so our kings continually invited Germans to prosper there. We thought, that they would be just another part of our kingdom, so we were kind to them for generations, but then Germanisation happened and National Revival after it, so we started to distance ourselves, but still friendly toward each other

>>128614654
>they were said to come by Czech rulers in 11th century because vast parts of Bohemia were unoccupied

Funny. Germans living in Russia had the same story. It's almost as if they are a civilizing, and culture creating force or something.

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>>128608760
de sudaten deutscher volk

duh op
women and children
they lost their homeland forcibly after ww1
they were being mistreated

>>128615449
yes they are.. but it does not prove any of your bullshits about Bohemia/Czechoslovakia or Munich treaty

>>128615741
>women and children
>they were being mistreated
Amerikun edukaishun

>>128615741
It is a lot more complicated that that..yes they got uprooted from Austro-Hungarian empire by its collapse and by the end of old world order, but they got to stay in new homeland with all their possessions, culture, traditions etc., reminding you that it was Bohemia - land of Czechs for 1.500 years, that we are talking about

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>>128608760
Want to be edgy?

Turn the tables. Ask why it was justified for Soviet Union take half of Europe or Allied forces to divide Germany up after the immediate aftermath of the war. Might makes right. Germany had the necessary means to take Sudetenland and they took it. Then they took some more land to build even more lebensraum and then they almost conquered the whole of Europe but decided it was a genius move to try to achieve what all those who came before had failed to do and conquer Russia during winter. Had Germany won there would be no question whether annexation of Sudetenland was justified or not. History is written by the victors. Had Hitler won, holocaust would be completely justified by the victors narrative.

Explain to her: Power has no morality. History is written by the victors.

>>128611170
Czechoslovakia is not offensive WTF?

>>128619164
She maybe meant, that we basicly financed their agricultural shithole to let them build all the things. Slovakia was in truth built from Czech money.

>>128619164
These people love to be offended on others behalf.
It's also funny that we German are evil for disliking anyone, but when Czechs and Slovaks hate each other(according to her) then we have to respect that.

>>128608760
Because unity is better thsn division #1 world under hitler no borders accept hitlers love.

>>128620820
No borders, Hitler wanted to unite the world, and imperialist states divided the people from Hitler.

>>128609560
>well, only reason i got was that the sudeten germans did not want it (no sources from her).
Viele wollten Heim ins Reich. Andere haben es skeptisch gesehen, aber nicht weil sie sich nicht als Deutsche gesehen hätten: wir sind und wir waren Deutsche und nochmals Deutsche. Im Blute, im Geiste, in der Kultur. Sondern weil sie einfach keine Nationalsozialisten gewesen sind und Hitler skeptisch gegenüber eingestellt. Mein Urgroßvater war beispielsweise SPD Mitglied und im Arbeiterturnverein.

Im Übrigen ist der Genozid an den Sudetendeutschen, ihre Entrechtung, Enteignung, Massendeportation, systematische Massenvergewaltigung und Ermordung eine der größten verschwiegenen Menschheitsverbrechen, die dieser abscheuliche Verräterstaat heute unter den Teppich kehrt und missbraucht.

t. Sudetendeutscher

>>128610983
lol no, we didn't consider ourselves Austrian. Besides Austrians and Germans are the same people in different states.

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>>128621464

Relevant. Siehe anbei.

>>128613590
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>>128620656
Der Ewige Tscheche.

>>128621764
So ist das. Vertreibung und Massenmord gelten nur bei unseren armen, armen Juden. Wenn's um, iiiih, "Biodeutsche" geht, interessiert es diesen antideutschen Staat nicht.

>>128621464
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>>128622284
Věčná pruská svině.

>>128622746
Yeah, fuck you, too, Untermensch. We will never forget, we will never forgive.

>>128608760
Might makes right.
check mate socialists

>>128611170
Are you all completely out of your minds? fucking Krauts..

>>128623058
Oh you will, when your nation is replaced by the turks.

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>>128609190
> Czechoslovak president Emil Hácha traveled to Berlin and was left waiting, while orders to invade were already given.
> During the meeting with Adolf Hitler, Hácha was threatened with the bombing of Prague if he refused to order Czech troops to lay down their arms.

> This induced a heart attack, from which he was revived by an injection from Hitler's doctor.

> He then agreed to sign the communique accepting the German occupation of the remainder of Bohemia and Moravia "which in its unctuous mendacity was remarkable even for the Nazis".
> Churchill's prediction was fulfilled as German armies entered Prague and proceeded to occupy the rest of the country, which was transformed into a protectorate of the Reich.

Jesus Christ.

>>128623431

more like check mate national-socialists

>>128623757

But the checks killed germany Frauen und Kinder in a crazy way, it was reported in multiple journals, even the american and brit ones

>>128623058
God bless Beneš decrees! Should be included into the constituion.

>>128614864
Source?

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>>128623058
My ancestors came from Bavaria, you Untermensch Turk, but unlike yours, they kept their mouths shut. Now, thanks to their silence, I get to enjoy all that Slavic pussy

>>128609560
She's the one that need to provide sources.

>>128608760
Because according to international law, if Sudetenland contained a majority of ethnic Germans for a period longer than a century, at the time of the declaration, it would provide the motherstate, being Germany, a rightful claim and a valid Casus Belli. Thus an annexation was indeed justified.

It was also accepted by the international community at the time.

You can look up the sources yourself.

Stop going to your teacher's classes, she poisons the mind.

>>128608760
There may not have been a reason other than conquest. This is an argument for or against imperialism

Then again I know nothing about this part of history

>>128624744
Degenerate fuck.
kys

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>>128608760
Because they could.

Might is right. A nation is either dominating or being dominated.

>>128625197
What´s the problem, snow monkey?

>>128616744
Even better: ask why the soviet union was justified in invading the baltic states and finland before they joined the allies. Also point out that the 1939 invasion of Poland was a joint effort between Germany and the soviets, with russia taking the eastern half with literally no repercussions whatsoever (despite the same act being cause for britain to declare war on germany).

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>>128625204
>claim "HURR MITE MAKS RITE!!!11"
>Get absolutely BTFO in thge only war you take part in
>Complain about how the people who beat you treat you afterwards

Is there anything more pathetic than a stormcuck?

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>mfw both czech traitors and ewige saupreißen call each other subhuman in this thread, when in reality they both are only slightly above niggers

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>>128625557
Do you understand what "might makes right" means? Why do you think the Allies won, because they were moral and "on the right side of history"? They even carved up Germany for themselves after the war.

Used to be empty because it's mostly "highlands" and no Czechs/Slavs lived there except for few cities that were on ancient trade routes. In the middle ages germanic people moved there and created some great cities out of nothing. Most of those cities became rich after industrial revolution because muh German work ethics. People who lived there were mostly germanic. After Czech uncucked themselves in 1850 and rebuild their slavic identity (after 1620s official language was only German) Germans in Sudetenlad felt alienated from them and naturaly gravitated towards their German brothers

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>>128625557
The most pathetic, lol

>>128626243
>says the Austrian, who is the most possibly of the Czech descend
1860s and 1870s NEVAR FORGIT

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>>128625557
Yeah, an Anglo.

>>128626243
>only slightly above niggers
That's rich coming from your flag.

>>128626565
Thank you for giving me the gift of righteous hate for you and your people. May you rot in hell and die a horrible death.

>>128608760
It was full of ethnic Germans who had been living there for a very long time, same as Poland. Also Hitler didn't want to take over all of Poland originally. He just wanted railroad access to Danzig.

>>128608760
Claim historical reasons since it used to be part of the Habsburg Crown, a German state, and passed to the hands of Czechslovakia, a Czech state, leaving the German minority unprotected and ruled by foreigners after more than 1000 years in the Holy Roman Empire.

>>128611170
How the fuck Czechoslovakia an offensive. In the contrary, refering to them independently is more offensive IMHO

>>128626606
Exactly, they´re dumb as the nogs, just look at some Austrian posters, they shitpost the most

>>128626763
Fuck you, Saupreiss, we wanted to be your friends, but all you did was backstabbing

>>128626870
They were protected by the constitution, we were democracy until 1938 (puppet state)

>>128624219

6 GORILLION

>>128623431
Nords and niggers share so many values

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>mfw subhumans reply to my posts and actually expect me to read their mindless drivel

>>128627336
I'm not saying I agree with the annexion. I just gave OP an argument to defend it.

>>128628256
>Literal subhuman calls europeans subhumans
Well, fuck you too, then, you fucking autistic cumstain

>>128628318
Yeah, but you must be aware, that there are more people than just OP

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>>128626791
>Also Hitler didn't want to take over all of Poland originally. He just wanted railroad access to Danzig.

>>128628256

>filthy kaffir think he is hot shit

this could've been a great thread, SPD voters destroyed it though :'^(

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guys guys calm down. We need to kick out the muslims before we do this shit again.

>>128629340
It can still become one, two hundred posts left

>>128629175
>Based Brazil
NO WAY

>>128608760
Because Germans are autistic niggers compared to based Czechs. You guys literally have a consistent pattern whereby you take whatever ideology is popular at a particular time (imperial nationalism in the late 19th century, natsoc in the 30's, neo-liberalism in the 21st cnetury) and extend it to it's most radical, retarded extent.

>>128630182
FUCKING This.

>>128609560
They needed protection because they were being persecuted in their own country for being ethnically German. Hitler wanted to protect his own people, and the international community agreed that it was best if the land was given back to Germany and those people were no longer tormented by the Czechs.

Sudeten Germans considered themselves Austrian, and the Austrians were already part of the German Reich. Those people were being placed back where they belonged. The justification for doing it was written in the Munich agreement. Hitler did not force anyone to sign it, it was a compromise for a delicate situations engineered by Hitler and Chamberlain. All parties walked away happy.

Czechs are also objectively the master race of the European continent. God tier central european genes combined with superior slavic culture, untainted by degenerate, arrogant, pseudo-intellectual German culture. I'm glad my ancestors are Czech instead of some German mongrels like most Americans.

>>128608760
>Give me one reason why it was justified for germany to take the Sudetenland in 1938.

it was majorily German and the Munich Agreement of 1938 shared that view. Hitler broke the Munich Agreement by invading the whole CZ though.

>had no right to it
one always has as much right as one has power.

>>128609560
many Sudetengermans indeed were socdems opposing Hitler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Social_Democratic_Workers%27_Party_in_the_Czechoslovak_Republic

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>>128630756
Bitch please
You call a friendly behavior to culturally different behavior a torment? Is this another Frankfurt school bullshit?

>>128630783
I just wonder why Czech Americans are always the smartest. Literally, guys like Ashton Kutcher are top tier. Scandinavian, Germanic, Slavic, Celtic genetics make up for one of the most beautiful females on Earth

>>128622284
die Biodeutschen kümmern sich ja noch nicht mal um den Rest Deutschlands der ihnen noch geblieben ist, warum sollten sie sich da für das Sudetenland kümmern? Meine Cousins wissen nichts darüber...
Die Deutschen sind schwach und schäbig, und werden vergehen, das ist nicht die Schuld der Tschechen.

>>128630783

COPE
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>>128631812

Stimmt. Ich hasse diese ekelerregende Gesellschaft so sehr, überall Feiglinge und Duckmäuser.
Schade dass ich nicht 45 gefallen bin dann wäre mir das erspart geblieben

>>128608760
who cares, turks and niggers own gercuckistan now, you're done gercuck.

>>128608760
I'll give you a major reason they had no right to it. Without those mountains Czechia is defenseless against Germany. I don't give two fucks about who lived there and what language they spoke.

>>128632806
This

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>>128611170
>Czechoslovkia
>offensive

>>128632379
uh, wie alt bist du denn?

>>128633401
24

>>128632806

But we like the Czechs as defenseless as the waffles

>>128624648
In elections held on 4 December 1938, 97.32% of the adult population in Sudetenland voted for the NSDAP (most of the rest were Czechs who were allowed to vote as well). About half a million Sudeten Germans joined the Nazi Party, which amounted to 17.34% of the German population in the Sudetenland (the average in Nazi Germany was 7.85%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_Germans

>>128630783
>untainted by degenerate

that's why all the interracial porn and hookers come from there. There's no need to give too much credit to post-socialist societies.

>>128633549
also nicht 1924 geboren oder so - ich dachte du wärst ein Veteran...
Tja, die Sache sieht nicht gut aus, nur was tun?

>>128608760
At what point in history do you look at. Orders and say "Okay aaaaaaand THERE, that's it those are going to be the borders we have for all eternity."

What contrived reason do you have for the natural progression of humanity to migrate and conquest to cease?

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>>128608760
>Give me one reason why it was justified for germany to take the Sudetenland in 1938.

Because Slavs are subhumans.

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>>128634182
The tail end of I'd say the 1980's. Borders are pretty much completely set in stone when it comes to western nations.

>>128633753
>Implying German porn isn´t already full of the nogs
Hah, Hans, what a joke, good one, coming from you

>>128634223
I have heard so many things about Germans, mostly about their poor hygiene. How exactly are you superior to Slavs except your industry being rebuilt by American half-Slavs?

>>128634553
>borders are set in stone

Had a slight chuckle. Remember to explain your reasoning.

>>128634712
>Hah, Hans, what a joke, good one, coming from you

what joke? I have been to CZ on a school trip and your girls bonked any German for 20€.
You somehow think the degenerate Western lifestyle is what needs to be copied.

>>128621764
Schönes Bild. Wo könnte ich so was finden? Ich wünsche mir dass eure Geschichte anders gewesen wäre. Alle die ich kürzlich in Deutschland gesehen habe sind schwach geworden. Schade...

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>>128634712
because you're dirty subhuman filth, as simple as that

>>128635082
Whores are always filthy, what the fuck you expect? The whore is a profession, so she has to choose even among subhumans like you

>>128635414
>Some Saupreiss calls me a subhuman
Better Czech your genes, mate, you sound as stupid as a Pole

>>128608760

I would not take the bait.
UK still had colonies all around the world.

Churchill in his D-day speech said that the british forces where figthing for "the continuation of the british empire".
That is what they thought they where fighting for, and that is what they fought for.

Back to taking Sudetenland it may have been against international rules.

It was certainly not a "unique evil".

>>128635643
>Whores are always filthy, what the fuck you expect?
I meant regular girls, the amount of non-professionals is high.

>The whore is a profession, so she has to choose even among subhumans like you
why so salty?

>>128625513
>Also point out that the 1939 invasion of Poland was a joint effort between Germany and the soviets, with russia taking the eastern half with literally no repercussions whatsoever (despite the same act being cause for britain to declare war on germany).

This one really gets people's gears turning...that and the jew-led War of 1918 in Germany.

>>128608760
>Give me one reason why it was justified for germany to take the Sudetenland in 1938.
Germany majority, self-determination, Czechoslovakia falling apart, etc.

>>128623757
When the German parts of Czechslovakia seceded, it threw the country into chaos. Slovakia also wanted to secede, and Poland and Hungary were also demanding their territory back that had been given to Czechoslovakia wrongfully by France after WW1.

The Czech government couldn't keep order in its own country, so the Germans restored order.

>>128621464

Tanto les cuesta postear en inglés?

>>128627434
>Just because the holocaust didn't happen, no other genocides ever happened

>>128609560
>never considered themselves german
German=/Germanic
>not because of blood but protection
You don't trust those who aren't invested to protect you.
Sudetenland had no value aside from uniting Germanic peoples.
>>128609946
Danzig, and yes Poles were fucking with German shipping and German citizens.

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>>128608760
its one of those problems where no option is good

for czechs:
>historically part of bohemian kingdom for a thousand years
>sudetenland germans were settlers and immigrants since 12th century or something
>mountains critically important for defense
>you just dont give up land, silly

for germans:
>germans live there

also, pakistan would be able to annex london in 50 years using this logic, kek

>>128636024
Our girls are smart enough to know, how to exploit western money and then friendzone them ;)

>why so salty?
I dunno, you Germans are letting so many subhumans, that you will basicly dissappear in less than 10 years, so that´s kinda accurate description for you right now

>>128609560
kek, 95+% of them supported it

>>128611758
>czechs hate slovaks and vice versa
???

>>128637192
>Our girls are smart enough to know, how to exploit western money and then friendzone them ;)

good then, still the seduction of quick money is high.

>I dunno, you Germans are letting so many subhumans, that you will basicly dissappear in less than 10 years, so that´s kinda accurate description for you right now

As a half-Swiss half-Dane I only can try to give an explaination: the leaders genuinely think a new race and settlement policy bringing down the ethnic homogeneity of Germany is payment for the holocaust. Others are more pragmatic, in a heterogenous society no democracy and popular sovereignty is possible, the regime can play the different ethnic groups against each other without being challenged. The main concern is this rotten thinking also spills into Denmark, from both sides (D and S), and Switzerland, as well as CZ even though on a lower level.

>>128636641
>>128609560
>>128609190
Also all of the Czech bunker defense lines and heavy industries were in Sudetenland, so the country was useless and defenseless without it (Sudetenland forms a semicircle around the rest of the Czech Republic, viewed from the German border)

>>128611709
You clearly enjoy reading on the internet, but lack actual knowledge of the situation and therefore your viewpoint is utter shit.

Bohemia existed alongside German nations since early medieval ages. That means Czechs. Yes, we were part of the Holy Roman Empire, but that was a very loose organisation, and for the nost part, we were an independent kingdom (of Bohemia) with our own king.

We came under the rule of the Habsburgs largely by choice of the Czech nobles, and their rule over our lands were later strenghtened during the 30 years war.

The Czech people are largely Germanized both culturally and genetically, and there is a big settlement of German people in our lands.

Now comes the tricky part and what you've gotten mostly wrong. We didn't steal anyones industry after WWI. On the contrary, we were the industrial heart of the good old Austrian Reich, and thus have naturally remained in control of it, after the division.

Yes, the division after WWI was not very natural, and it perhaps would've been better to remain in commonwealth with the Austrians. However, you must recognize that Czech people felt the Austrians rulers as a foreign and alien rule over our lands (especially with connection to the germanising, that was in process since the end of the seventeeneth century).

The (completely) german minority of Sudetenland wasn't discriminated against until Hitler came along, but it is natural they have felt like they are under foreign rule.

>>128638188
this was the problem. we built massive line of defenses on our mountanious borders. problem was that all those regions were inhabited by bohemian germans.

>>128620744
You are absolitely right Hans and shouldn't take that shit from her, but we really don't hate each other.
Czechs and Slovaks are brothers.

>>128638166
>payment for the holocaust
Shit, mate, that´s bad
Also. Sorry for being harsh, but I mean only to scare off the stupid Germans to not fuck up this wonderful thread even more

>>128608760
there were ethnic Germans living there. It's the exact same argument against Israel for occupying Palestine. Literally no difference whatsoever

>>128638689
This. This is just so beautifully written.

>>128626763
Calm the fuck down you LARPer.

>>128609560
>well, only reason i got was that the sudeten germans did not want it (no sources from her).
Pretty sure Hitler held a referendum and they voted to join the Reich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election_and_referendum,_1938

>>128639657
Go to bed, pepik. You've got school tomorrow.

>>128639980
Appreciate it Jan.

It pains me to see, how many people are too quick to accept simple viewpoints on such difficult situations, driving the division of European nations even further.

How were Sudeten Germans opressed?

Only Germans I recall being opressed were Carphato Germans in Slovakia in times of A-U.

Thanks God those traitors got kicked out, both Sudet Germans and Carphato Germans.

>>128641264
Go to bed, Miro, your daily gypsy rapist is waiting on you in your home in Kassa.

>>128641454
Oversimplifications are mostly made by the brutes like Muricans, because their educational system is even worse than the polish one.

We should unite as Europe, but hell, can´t do with all those supporters of the migrations, there are like 250 millions people migrating in Africa

>>128642467
True.

You dislike Poles though? Any reasons?

Polaci jsou nasi bratri desu.

>>128608760
how much of a cuck can you be to act like the annexation of the Sudetenland wasn't completely justified; the rest of the Czech lands, no. I bet you act like Danzigers didn't want to be part of the German state

>>128642340
Sudeten Germans were never oppressed, just they whined lies to Runciman, when he visited the Sudetenland.

Actual lifestyle would go like this
1) Wake up and feed animals
2) Go into fields
3) Have a good, fine lunch at home
4) Go herd the sheep
5) Return at like 5 p.m., good thing it´s saturday, so there might be a festival in the village
6) Take a beer and sit down with Germans, talking about those crazy revivalists
7) Laugh with them after this insane idea, that revivalists are actually spies from the Entente to dismantle our beautiful empire
8) Go home happy from coexisting with these fine working people, who are just speaking a language, what is not your mother tongue

>>128643062
They are simply traitors.

They don't complain when they have all rights, and a very good live. But when papa Hitler tells them they can be part of reich they will sure betray you.

Same thing was with Carphato Germans. They were helping SS divisions finding partisans.

Kicking them out was best thing to do.

>>128642939
>You dislike Poles though? Any reasons?
Reasons:
1) Own Silesia and Lusatia
2) Have retarded brains and educational system, also, their food is shit tier
3) They want Hungary to annex Slovakia, so they might have "common border"

>Polaci jsou nasi bratri desu.
Yeah, they´re, but more like your regular retarded cousin, who are you forced to talk at family reunions

>>128643421
You´re indeed right, brother Slovak

We were marrying with them, laughing with them, drinking beer with them and then suddenly, they just straight up backstab us

>>128643450
Slovakia is more a part of Hungary than a part of Bohemia

>>128643775
>>128643421
You two were just about ready to kill eachother before Hitler stepped in.

>>128643450
Man, you are so confused.

>>128608760
German population that wanted to rejoin with Germany. Read up on the German nationalist movements in Austro-Hungary.
Got suppressed hard even near the end.

>>128609560
They considered themselves German.

It's all fun and games until another country doesn't agree to give you more land and then start a total war over it.

>>128643791
I do not deny that historically, but damn, Slovaks deserve their own freedom. They had a lot of shit to put up with.

>>128643885
That´s not true, females in my bloodline were all born with German surnames. You seem to be some kind of a troll or a quite retarded person

>>128643885
???

If you didn't know, we wanted seperate goverment in Slovakia at first. We didn't want to start a war with Czechs, neither they did. They still had their troops in Slovakia in times before 15. march. If they would be "ready to kill eachother" they would do that, but they didn't.

Slovak state existed only because it was the only solution of not being cutted in half between Poland and Hungary.

>>128626565
thats a mighty pepe my friend

>>128644030
Let me name some of Polish descend:
Merkel
One of my classmates, who is pretty, but she is also pretty retarded
All those Prussians with no brains, only shilling for some extreme left or right
Modern Poles, who are dumb fucks, who like their children to be molested by the priests

>>128643791
Where was Slovakia mentioned in that post?
Did you forget to take your medication today, Leaf?

>>128643450
Do you live by the border? I only get to meet Poles occasionally, but most of them are good folks.
It's just that we will never be able to amount to anything, if we squabble amongst ourselves so much.

See this thread as an example. Germans, Czechs, Austrians, Americans, dirty smelly Leafs, yelling at each other for shit that happened seventy years ago. Divide and conquer.

>>128613882
I read in a history book that the Wehrmacht was extremely relieved they didn't have to fight the Czech army, because the Czechs were actually extremely armed and would have inflicted heavy casualties on the Germans in an invasion event. If Britain wanted to stop Hitler, they should have fought the war right then and there with the Czechs.

>>128644680
Poles are "good", but they´re not intellectually capable of being equal to us, mate

>>128644680
>>128643791
Fuck, I'm retarded.
Sorry leaf, this one was my bad.

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>>128644680
>Where was Slovakia mentioned in that post?

>>128644540
I think, I have a higher resolution of this, but tired to search for it further

>>128608760
Read Wilson's 14 points after ww1.

Germany was all about returning persecuted Germans under German rule. If we lost a war and the North East was given to mexico...just analogue it with us today.

>>128644898
Well, yes and no, but you are well read.

We wouldn't have been able to stop them most likely, as the population difference is extremely big, and there were already minor conflicts breaking out between the soldiers and the Sudetegermans.

However, it would have slowed Hitler down significantly, since we were prepared fpr a defensive war (unlike the Polish for example).

>>128644941
Tak hlavne at se to nedozvi ty vole.

>>128644988
See >>128644972

>>128608760
The torture and murder of German people was a pretty good reason.

>>128645756
Lol, to by jsme museli udělat Zaolzie thread, aby se vůbec ukázali

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I still wonder why Hitler didn't attack Hungary.

It is Hungary where germans were put under huge pressure of magyarization (before WW1).

If was Hitler really protecting Germans so much why didn't he invade them? Reason is obvious.

>>128646121
Hitler wanted swedish steel and hungarian aluminium, that´s why he never attacked them

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>>128638689
I like this post. It is mostly correct and neatly written.

Although some details:
>we were an independent kingdom (of Bohemia) with our own king.
True. Also need to be added that we always had unique set of laws in the HRE, up to the point our membership was mostly symbolic. There were initially some conflicts about it, which mostly ended with defeat of the German emperor on the battlefield. After that, it was established by helping various german emperors in their conquests (Italy is probably the best example).

>We came under the rule of the Habsburgs largely by choice of the Czech nobles
It was always very controversial and definitely not accepted by a majority. But basically you are right.

>The Czech people are largely Germanized both culturally and genetically
Wouldn't say largely, partly is better word.

>and there is a big settlement of German people in our lands.
They were invited by the Přemyslids quite early, 13-14th century.

>we were the industrial heart of the good old Austrian Reich, and thus have naturally remained in control of it, after the division.
Exactly. Not to forget that most of those companies were fully Czech controlled with Czech workers.

>Yes, the division after WWI was not very natural
Generally, it wasn't. Regarding only Czech/Czechoslovakian region, it was very natural.

>It perhaps would've been better to remain in commonwealth with the Austrians.
This was rather common sentiment even before and during the parting with a old monarchy, even Palacky believed in that at first. And it died quite quickly from obvious reasons, it couldn't work and it was against everything Masaryk fought.

Other than that, your post is perfect, Czechbro.

>>128646009
Quit the bullshit and pick up a book star-spangled.

>>128646113
Joo, je tu podezrele malo sislani, na to jak jsou jinak vsude slyset.

>>128646649
Thank you sir. Was trying to be as general as possible.

Also, this is now a Czech thread.

>>128646649
>>128646113
>>128644988
>>128644540
>>128644030
>>128641264
Kolik nas tu je panove?

>>128608760
It was about pan-germanism. Uniting all Germans in a German nation.

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>>128647357
Can I be a honorary Czech?

Part of me is Czech. Kutná Hora.

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>>128647488
Lol sure.

Then again, tell me why didn't Hitler attack Slovakia AND Hungary in 1939 when he was "uniting all Germans in a German nation"?

>>128646649
If we would go into details, the posts would be enormous, we should just stick to basic explanation to let the burgers grasp atleast some of it

TL;DR
Don´t make American brains explode

Also this:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

DNA makes us more than 1/3 Germanic already (also with Scandinavian portion)

Politics of the Kingdom of Bohemia were mainly diplomatic, we never were conquerors

The remaining parts are okay with me

>>128646906
Jn

>>128647357
Dost, Czech general thread uděláme v sobotu, dneska už jsou všichni v posteli

>>128647540
Slovaks are honorary Czechs by default.
Which part? Kuttenberg is cool.

>>128647858
>Politics of the Kingdom of Bohemia were mainly diplomatic, we never were conquerors
Přemysl Otakar II. and half of the remaining Přemyslids would like a word, senpai.

>we should just stick to basic explanation to let the burgers grasp atleast some of it
Quite a good idea.

>>128648507
Přemyslids, yeah, but damn, those were high middle ages, all over the Europe were massive wars just for lolz

>>128648706
That is true, but those glorious fuckers were successful as hell in the whole war business. Bohemia touched two seas, mang.

We always had great warriors and soldiers, people tend to forget that. And then there is this strange trend that we mostly fought for our country from illegality.

>>128611758
What the fuck. I mean - yes, it's true we might hate slovaks to some degree but Czechoslovakia is the name we had from 1918 to 1989 it's definitively not offensive to us.

>>128648172
Alright kapitane.

>>128647858
Yeah, that was also my idea. Burgers won't follow of you dump too much info at once. That's why they don't read.

>>128647540
Brothers are brothers mate, you are honorary by birthright.


Alright gents, hope to see ya'll here soon again. Goodnight and Slava Cechum!

>>128608760
Since Crimea i became much more understanding toward Hitler actions. A weird feeling.

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>>128630182
>this

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>>128649172
Have a good sleep, good anon.
Sláva Čechům!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYpf_tW_zko

>>128649036
Královec was the city built by Teutons to honour Otakar II., so not entirely ours, he just helped the knights
Although, we touched Adria, that´s true.

Yeah, hussites basicly fought the entire catholic Europe for a damn long time. Well, then also Radetzky.

>>128649172
>>128649555
Sláva Čechům
Vskutku

>>128639657
I always wondered why Slavophobia is this widespread, its like German nationalists only have one concern: taking back the eastern provinces.
Danes of course want Slesvig-Holstein back for Denmark, but its no good idea considering the pollution overhere, our small community won't last too long either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_minority_of_Southern_Schleswig

>>128649574
Hussites fought off five (!) crusades. Based as fuck. We helped defending Vienna against Turks as well, count Kaplíř even lead the defense of the city. Then Radecký as you mentioned and many more literally heroic guys with the old monarchy. Then Czechoslovakian legions, who raped half of the Russia with absurdly small numbers. Then our anti-nazi fighters, RAF pilots and a hell of a number of individuals in the WWII around the world. Czechs have glorious tradition in the French Foreign Legion as well.

>>128650195
Eastern provinces are still rich, but with a lot of obsolete economy, it´s not worth it for Germans to want to take it back.

Danes are cool, I love them, based against nazis, Swedes and migrants, have some of Czech folklore and a great beer

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>>128608760
>Give me one reason why it was justified for Germany to take the Sudetenland in 1938.
***BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE READ: 'Der Krieg Der Viele Vaeter Hatte' by Gerd Schultze Rhonhof and search "Sudeten" keyword:
>https://archive.org/details/DerKriegDerVieleVaeterHatteGerdSchultzeRhonhof
My answer: Several reasons, but this must be prefaced by saying these are moral arguments. Nothing can stop your teacher from disagreeing, especially if the teacher is ideological, and an Oikophobic leftist (see Roger Scruton for definition of oikophobe). Let's examine the historical arguments:
>The terms of Versailles were agreed to under threat of starvation blockade, so a hostage treaty
>All the terms of Versailles were unjust because Germany didn't start the war, nor did any foreign army set foot on German soil, and Germany conducted the war honorably and legally throughout
>Sudetenland was formerly German territory: Czech region as well as parts of Poland were created out of Germany -- that's why there were ethnic Germans living in it, and these people lived under persecution and physical threat (as we saw before, during, and after WWII)

Link to relevant section from book I mentioned:

https://books.google.com/books?id=gLSnAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA482&ots=b3jZU4jHM1&dq=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wintersonnenwende.com%20sudetenland&pg=PA482#v=onepage&q=https://www.wintersonnenwende.com%20sudetenland&f=false

Audio version:
https://youtu.be/7Xe4veY6Ei8

English version for those interested:
https://youtu.be/7mA0kk29DBA

>>128650645
>tfw Czechs are only experts after legendary Spartans to defeat armies, while being outnumbered

Also. Czechs were one of the few able soldiers in French Foreign Legion, Poles were also great, though

Just for the sake of your debate OP, consider the following (from https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/worminapple/wa06.html ):

>Those Germans who criticize the establishment of the Protectorate as an act of force and thus as a deed of Hitler's to be condemned, I would ask to consider the following:


1. In Munich Hitler had no designs whatsoever on Czechoslovakia; all he wanted was to have the Sudeten-German regions back. In Hitler's directive of October 21, 1938, which is forever being cited as proof of his lust for conquest, he merely states: "It must be possible to crush the remaining part of Czechoslovakia at any time, if it should engage in anti-German policies."

>2. After 'Munich', however, the remainder of Czechoslovakia evinced not only tendencies to dissolve further (since Slovakia and the Carpathian Ukraine wished to secede), but also exhibited pronounced anti-German tendencies, which threatened to pose a danger to Germany. Evidence for this is available.19

>3. In 1930, the well-known politician Peter Rohrbach wrote in Deutschland - Tod oder Leben: "One day, when Austria is joined with the Reich, when the platitude of 'one people - two nations' has been thrown into the dustbin of history, the territory of the unified German national state will surround Czechoslovakia to the point where the latter will have to try to get along with Germany." That Czechoslovakia did exactly the opposite, despite the warnings which Hitler expressed in his conversation with the Czech Foreign Minister on September 28, 1938, is no-one's fault but Czechoslovakia's.

>>128650820
Fuck off, dumb burgers
GERMANS WERE OUR EQUAL
THEY BACKSTABBED US, FFS
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE SO MUCH DUMB BULLSHIT?

>4. As early as February 1939 - weeks before the Protectorate was created - a leading British daily published a remarkable editorial about the rump state that was left to the Czechs after Munich. This state, it said, was not viable in the long term. Both geographically as well as economically, it was so tightly surrounded by the German Reich that it would perforce have to merge with Germany sooner or later; one might deem this development regrettable, but it was past stopping. England had started something in Munich, and would now have to finish it.

>5. Bohemia and Moravia had already once been part of the German Empire, and for fully 1000 years.

...

>8. In light of the fact that the Czechs did not have the position of an oppressed minority in the Protectorate, but rather that of a largely independent people, I would second Ambassador Abetz in saying: "Anyone who deemed it right that until September 1938 three-and-one-half million Germans were forced against their will into national coexistence with six-and-one-half million Czechs had no right to object against these six-and-one-half million Czechs in turn being assimilated against their wish in April 1939 into a state with eighty million Germans."

>>128651507
He asked for resources to engage in a debate. Have you ever done debate in school? You don't have to agree with a position to represent it, so calm your tits.

>>128650820
Just wanted to check how the thread was going and found this masterpiece. Oh well...

Listen burger, just because someone wrote it doesn't mean it is true, especially if they have an agenda to push.
Once again, sudetenland was our territorry reaching back to early medieval ages.
Only temporarily under rule of Austria (not the German state) and as a part of the Bohemian crown lands.

You could have argued, that since there actually was a majority of german population, it would have beeb fair to let them decide where they want to belong to (e.g. Krym), and that would have been a great argument.
But you had to bring up unrelated shit you didn't really understand, because you just cannot grasp the historical context of central Europe.

Once again, educate yourself.

>>128650820
Man, its always such a cringe to read rambling of a American about our own history.
>Hurr, evul Czechos, torturan and killin poor Germns.

>>128651115
Even today, there is quite a large number of Czechs serving in the FFL, some of them on rather high positions.

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>>128611758
>you czechs hate slovaks and vice versa
What the fuck.
Czech and Slovaks are the greatest BFFs you could ever find. I see Slovaks as just Czech with a heavy accent.

>>128651898
>Listen burger
Listen /pol/tard pleb, debate is an art. You don't have to agree with a position to represent it.
>>128651929
And another insecure mental midget.
Waiting for another before I post... anyone...?

>>128608760
The largest part of the people there were ethnic Germans who spoke German.

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Fucking Czech Internet Defense Forces ITT lol

>>128651666
FFS, why are you acting so stupid? How can anyone be this stupid?

The fucking debate is not an option, if he is alone in the class of sheeple and the teacher, who considers Czechs and Slovaks to be mortal enemies

Done debates, dumb shit, great brains do not waste their time on waiting, they act

Your documents are about the rape of Czechoslovakia, which are accusing us falsely of being against Germans. Well, we will see, how much you will like Mexicans, when they will take your border regions with the mexican populace.

>>128651929
Ikr, we´re so awesome!

Also. Don´t mind the burger, he is just a dumb shit, who is the most propably the descendant of some serfs

>>128651507
>be good cucks under Hitler for 7 years
>immediately switch to genocide when Red army is covering your ass
Czech people sound evil as fuck to me. Capable of anything. I like you. Sorry about 1968, should just have allowed DDR to take care of you.

>>128621464
einfach nur dieses!

>>128652099
Fair enough.
But you do bring up things out of context.
I actually genuinly like Americans, but most of you learn fuck all about the complicated history of different European states.
I read what you wrote after that, and there are some good arguments (although I disagree with most).
It is a bit more complicated than you make it.

>>128652340
Again, this is the best argument that can be made.

Let me offer you a counter-thought.

Germans who settled in the area of Sudetenland were children (and gramdchildren, etc) of LEGAL immigrants to Bohemian lands.
By the same logic, should London have the ability to renounce Great Britain and become an independent city in like one or two generations?

>>128652527
That's a gypsy you fucking moron.

Every European can tell the difference.

>>128652527
Samefagging much, burger?
That may be, because your arguments are pure shit

>>128652668
Fuck off, russian gopnik, you have no place in here
We were rebelling, just read some literature
Expulsion of Germans was needed, so they don´t try to do that bullshit ever again. It was in other countries east of Berlin also.

Czechs are only defending against greater aggressors, they must anticipate the reasonable reaction after chimping out against us.

>>128609560
no, the reason was because the Sudetenland where most of the Cechs had their defense against Germans, so by taking them they basically made them naked to an invasion

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>>128652658
>FFS, why are you acting so stupid? How can anyone be this stupid?
lol why you so mad, CZIDF? He asked for resources to debate a side. You don't have to personally agree with a side to debate it. Its school, this is a typical thing people do at university. If you had gone, you would know that. Sorry you were born with a low IQ. That sucks but we don't think less of you for it.
>>128653156
>But you do bring up things out of context.
No, I bring up a position that you don't agree with, there's a difference.
>you don't know anything about history fucking American
So, the sources I cited are German, not American. Take it up with their flag if you can only process things in those terms.
>>128653288
>t-that's not a r-real Czech
this damage control, CZIDF is hilarious

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>>128652340
You have a house with a three rooms. Your family lives there for hundreds of years. Your bigger neighbor will take one of your rooms and move a group of aggressive hobos into it. They live there for a few years. Police arrest your neighbor, that one room is again officially yours. What to do about them hobos, you ask? Well, let's try to live with them. And it works for some time. Then your neighbor gets out of prison and starts instigating the hobos against you. They start to acquire firearms, harass your people in the other rooms and generally start to be a hardcore nuisance. You push back a bit, your neighbor get all pissy and start bitching about you being bad to the hobos. Fast forward 80 years, some guy from another city is saying that you were bad to the poor hobos and it was alright to take not only that one room back, but also the rest of them as well.

And that's basically how it is with the Sudety and this thread.

>>128652668
Don't be a dumb retard as that mongoloid Americans up there. Our resistance back there were, together with Poles, probably the most successful in the whole Europe. Ask Heydrich.

>>128653630
All you do is samefagging, either bring something beneficial to the discussion or get lost, dumb burger

Your arguments are invalid as your serf intelligence

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>>128653968
>All you do is samefagging
Haven't replied to myself once ITT, CZIDFbro. Why so mad?

>>128653630
Again, we all can tell that is a gypsy. You can't.

And unless you are clinically retarded, you must understand that although it was written by a german, it does not represent the major german opinion.

Yes, there is a difference between bringing things out of context and bringing up a position I don't agree with. That's why I told you in the first place. They were historically our land, that's a fact, there is no debating that.

Czech republic has higher average IQ than your country.

And that's a beautiful pic, is that you in your T-shirt Tyrone?

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>>128654423
>B-b-but t-t-that's a g-g-gypsy
This damage control. I see a Czech flag.

>>128654254
Jesus, man, seriously, get lost, you´re only trying to troll and destroying the other people´s thread.

Also. The socks in sandals only proves, that we´re more germanic, than you will ever be, lol

>>128654254
Uuuu yeaaah that swaag.

Want me to post Walmart pics you fucking clown? See who ends up on top.

>>128608760
it was there. this is the only reason the white man ever needs.

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>>128654636 >>128654665

I still don't understand why you gypsies are so upset.

>>128654769
>Burger trying to ruin threads with recycled or dead memes
You´re from 9gag, aren´t you?

>>128653946
Serbs were the best at resistance, they liberated their land by themselves, beat that
>Heydrich.
Brits had to make you kill him to make germans kill civilians and motivate your obedient population to resist though.
>>128653309
Expulsion is fine, abusing unarmed already evacuating civilians and organizing death marches was nasty af. Especially considering how obedient you guys were under them just before.

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>>128654596
>>B-b-but t-t-that's a g-g-gypsy
>This damage control. I see a Czech flag.
Here, have a picture of an average American then.

>>128654596
Ooookay, I can post an Achmed with American flag. Is he the same nationality as you?
>he most likely actually is

Also, it only proves how little you know about central Europe. Gypsies are to us what dindus are for you. Except we don't mix with them.

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>>128654958
>>128655022
>>128655070
>autistic kvetching
I'm just saying, maybe if you had worried more about removing gypsies and kikes, and less about removing Germans, we wouldn't be having this thread.

https://youtu.be/Yy56AONULn8

>>128655265
Hey, you've learned something today.

Proud of you son!

>>128608760

Might makes right.

>>128655011
It was all insane, because there were pseudo-courts organised by some folks with weapons, who wanted to be heroes. Before the government reacted, it was too late. The Germans were already scared and gone.

But well, you can´t change history like that so easily

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>>128655454
Its no fun if we agree.

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>>128654596
>literally biggest sponsors of Israel on this planet criticize someone for supporting Israel.
This is a new level of retarded.

>>128655011
>Especially considering how obedient you guys were under them just before.
Except we were not.

>Brits had to make you kill him to make germans kill civilians and motivate your obedient population to resist though.
Russian education. Amazing, it is nearly as retarded as our local communists. Definitely a coincidence.

>>128655265
>Talking edgy
>Is only 60% white
LMAO, burger, stop, or I will piss myself by laughing

>>128655786
I mean sure, but I have this feeling you are just fucking around for the banter.

Either way, that pic is actually fuckibg great.

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>>128608760
reasons are socially constructed just like your teacher's penis.

>>128655786

>no homophobia

for fucks sake man, you almost had perfection, but you went too far in rejecting islam.

>>128655855
>>128656197
Yay, burger is defeated
Great job, guys
Now, let´s start restoring the Bohemian kingdom by getting some lower nobility on throne (as is our tradition)

https://static1.businessinsider.com/image/58471001ba6eb6d3008b7bf9-1200

some of czechs are really detached from reallity

>>128655855
>The operation was carried out in Prague on 27 May 1942 after having been prepared by the British Special Operations Executive
>The resistance was active from the very beginning of occupation in several other countries defeated in open warfare, but the subjugated Czech lands remained relatively calm and produced significant amounts of materiel for the Third Reich.

That Heidrich fellow literally rode in single car with open top without fuking guards, just 1 driver in the middle of your fuking country and noone thought to target him. Nation of heroes.

Fuck this, I'm going to bed. For real this time.

Op krautbro, if you are still here, don't let yourself be cucked by some libtard teacher. It was a fucky situation, and as some people already mentioned here, the one with more power won. That's history.

Ameribros, no hurt feelings you bastards, we love you even if you're just 60%.

Czechbros, I'll see you in other threads. Slava vlasti!

>>128657827
I am also going off, I am tired too much already

Fuck libtards, lol

Fuck USA

Sláva vlasti, zkusíme to v sobotu

>>128657827
Sláva vlasti, Czechbro!

>>128657321
Oh, and you Pole.

Learn to take a joke for fucks sake. Every country thinks they are hot shit, so don't get all buttblasted right away.

Most of us think you're based as fuck.

>>128613882

"Treaty of Versailles" XD Even the german commies called it the "Treaty of shame".
Maynard Keynes wrote already in 1920 there will be no peace with the Versailles Treaty: So much to "Hitler'sWar".

And the best joke, the Sudetengermans had not much in common with the German Reich.

You Sir, need more immigration to your glorious country. Cucked into oblivion you are.

>>128658173
what he said!

>>128608760
>>128609560
Wait, what? Are we talking about strictly the Sudetenland or the further taking of half of Czechoslovakia shortly before the beginning of World War 2? When it comes to the Sudetenland I assume it was handed over to the Germans, through the Munich agreement if I'm not mistaken, because of the ethnic German population that happened to live within that area. Now when it comes to the occupation of half of Czechoslovakia and, as a result, the creation of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, I have come to conclude that it was one of Hitler's biggest mistakes. I believe it to be the action that contributed the most in solidifying the opinion that Hitler was a "mad dog" and sought to mindlessly expand for the sake of expansion, therefore abolishing any remaining trust any outsider may have had regarding Hitler.

>"It was his (Churchill's) vocal opposition to Hitler’s new Nazi dictatorship in Germany, and his calls for British rearmament, that gradually brought him back to public notice. Initially, it was a message that few wanted to hear, but after the Munich Crisis of 1938 and the German occupation of Czechoslovakia, there was a growing consensus that he was right."

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/the-life-of-churchill/wilderness-years

http://archive.is/D2Xii

Wah, wah, wah I am a whiny kraut OP who almost hates himself as much as he hates his own country and votes the left or cdu.
FUCK OFF.
Here's a magnificent idea how to feel better about your national identity:
Stop thinking you are in the 1940s.
tha's all.

>>128608760

Justification is irrelevant.

Czechoslovakia was a smaller and weaker country than Germany and the allies were piss scared of Germany so there were very few down sides for the Germans going ahead and doing something that would make their nation a little bit bigger and stronger.

>>128633634
Obviously rigged elections aren't a valud source. I don't care how popular you are, 97% of the population never supports you

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>>128611761
They deserved a lot more bad shit. They fully occupied Commonwealth from 1795 to 1918 with Russia and Austro-Hungary(were easy on us under partitions).
Prussians(Germans) tried to germanize Poles and destroy every part of our heritage, history and culture. Russians were even worse. And I don't even wanna start about 2 world war. I enjoy every terrorist attack in those countries. Fuck them. And fuck you.

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>>128666595
Also this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

They can suck my slavic cock. They played dirty games since the beggining.