/qcg/-Qatar crises General

>>128600203
>gulf states+Egypt cut ties to Qatar because it "supports extremist groups"
well shit. which group, best ally? also this makes them terrorists so we can bomb them and take their oil right? freedom and all that

Allah souria bashar

>>128600203
Is this the big happening?
>>128481625

>>128600404
ISIS I think

>>128600544
holy fuck

The west is gearing up to invade Syria, Qatar will be used as a scape goat to cover up the crimes of the Saudi's.

>>128600404
Dont listen to the jew. It's because they support the Muslim Brotherhood. Saudi also supports HTS/ISIS so I doubt thats the reason for cutting ties

>>128600404
No, because they support Muslims Brotherhood.
They are extremists, but not according to our ruler. Our governing party has some of them in Milan's council

why are they claiming Qatar is supporting them? evidence?

>>128600404
No, because they support Muslims Brotherhood.
They are extremists, but not according to our rulers. Our governing party has some of them in Milan's council

>>128600203
this probaly means that Qutar wont host the world cup that was planned to take place there in 2022

>>128600544
>ISIS I think
so israel ? what a surprise

>>128600769
>Saudi also supports HTS/ISIS so I doubt thats the reason for cutting ties
hear that a lot so why is this big news? why Saudi not just cover it up

>>128600840
They openly support the Brotherhood and they hate each other for this from years

>>128600896
Qatar two days ago told the Hamas rulers (the Palestinian Muslim brotherhood) to get out of their country

>>128600544
But we're ISIS, brother.

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>>128600908
This youtube auto translation of captured nusrats finally makes sense.

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hey retards, Saudi Arabia is behind Al-qaeda and ISIS.

Qatar is just tired of playing along with the Saudis, refusing to fuel the jihadis any longer.

So the US + Saudi cucks throw Qatar under the bus. Qatar was in on it with Saudis, UAE and the rest,

>>128600908
Let's admit it guys. This is the real reason why everyone is ganging up on Qatar.

i would post a good article in Hebrew about this crises but 4chan thinks its span if i do
so type ynet in Hebrew and open the main article and try to Google translate or something

>>128601130
Do your people actually realise everything that is going on around them?

>>128603097
i mean the crises is the main news here now

Qatar must align with Iran or bow to Saudi demands. There is no other option.

>>128601157
Link?

>>128600544
>ISIS I think
Ohohohohoho

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What did Iran and the US mean by this?

>>128603523
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/06/05/524282/Iran-Qatar-Saudi-Arabia-Bahrain-Yemen-UAE-Egypt-Yemen-Bahram-Qassemi-Mohammad-Javad-Zarif-Alaeddin-Boroujerdi

http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/06/05/524245/US-Tillerson-saudi-Qatar-Egypt-UAE-Trump

>>128600203
(((Israeli (((media))))))

>>128603523
Don't behave like a bunch of fucking Arabs.

Will this "conflict" affect the price of petrol? If "yes", how? Just askin

>>128603854
Gas, not oil.

>>128603854
It might cause a speculatory jump, but that's it. Qatar's chief export is natural gas, not crude oil.

Finally a thread about the Qatar issue using a map marked with kosher Hanukkah runes. Been waiting for this all day.

>>128604466
its from a ynet article

>>128604466
>>128605078

I dated a girl fluent in Yiddish and whose last name was basically just the English spelling of a Hebrew letter.

Does that make me one of the Tribe?

She wouldn't let me cum in her mouth, but up the ass was okay?

Did we break any Kosher laws?

>>128605364
>yiddish
was she haredi? because no one aside from them and like 80+ year olds speak it

>>128603858
Starve, perhaps. But they have desalination facilities. They'll require rationing no doubt, but they won't die of thirst.

>>128603858
So they only lost 14% of their water i see no problem as long as kuwait does not cut it's with qatar. Plus now they will probably import from Iran or Iraq.

>>128605917
*cuts it's relations with Qatar.

>>128600203
Is this over syria or, more likely, the unwilliness of qatar to take a hard stand against iran?

>>128605917
it did

>>128600813
That's one of the definite good things coming from this already, the Muslim Brotherhood being called a terrorist organization. Maybe enough of our MSM propaganda shills are rather uninformed and let these statements in their reporting. The Muslim Brotherhood has been infiltrating Western governments everywhere.

>>128600908
any idea who will host it instaed? i thinkw we german should get the wm, thx to all the refugees we can even pretend it happens in qatar

>>128606227
wait it didnt

>>128605917
14% is a lot.

>>128605917
if a war does start Iranian controlled Iraq and Saudi Arabia will fight on Kuwait cuz with controlling it they could starve nations it exports water to

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All for show, the Wahhabi's have been found out giving money to terrorist. This all for appearances.
Turkey caught 4x giving weapons to ISIS. Saudi's support The Wahhabi idea and fund it!!

>>128606276
To be desu, I'm kinda tired about the constant "hospitality" and "welcome culture" talk, so I'd rather see that shit elsewhere. I don't want football getting abused for (((their))) propaganda any more than it already is.

>>128605524
She wasn't Orthodox, that's for sure.

We bonded when we both found out we had a relative that died at Baden-Baden. She lost a Grandfather there and I lost a Great Uncle who fell of the guard tower.

>>128606695
shes probably just weird

>>128606863
She threw a Molotov Cocktail at my house when we broke up. I'd say that's pretty normal.

>>128606576
Still they atleast didn't lose the %51 percent but again they could very soon. And now if they do lose that than they are fucked.

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Qatar is a chickenshit sized microstate, it couldn't possibly have done the things that disturb peace the region like supporting extremists all on it's own. It's at most one of the small players in these games.

In actuality it's KSA and it's coalition that has been the main source of most of the recent instability. Now they are trying to cast Qatar as the villain instead after getting some recent bad press in the West. A sacrificial lamb. But it won't work. You can't wash clean the Saudi hands.

Qatar will suffer a lot from this blockade due to their location and small size, but on the other hand all the countries that oppose Saudi objectives in the region now have an opening to covertly help Qatar, even if they disagree on many/most things with them.

Why Egypt jumped on this bandwagon is a worthwhile question to ask, but honestly it has much to do with the recent history between Egypt and Qatar specifically and less to do with these latest KSA provocations.

>>128607620
Water isn't the problem. They have more than enough desalination to keep everyone alive. Nobody is going to get a shower any time soon but they won't die of thirst.

The big problem is food. No overland shipments, and major potential for naval blockade. This could just end up being one giant siege.

>>128606601
It will be too risky for Iraq because the US Militiary is already inside Iraq and they are supporting them on Mosul. Also the US would side with Iraq and this would lead to a huge scale of war if Iraq ever attempted to takeover kuwait again it is simply too riskful for Iraq or Iran to invade kuwait if you ask me.

But i do think kuwait will cut it's ties with Qatar along with Oman. Than Qatar will be highly dependent on Iran.

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>>128607746
Qatar has more liquid money than USA

>>128607916
Agreed i think Kuwait and Oman are the only GCC nations that still haven't cut ties with Qatar yet and once they did the only nations in the regions that they could have shipments from is Iran and Iraq and possibly Pakistan.

Qatar is going to shift sides if you ask me.

>>128603858
It's 2017 who tf imports water, the most abundant resource on earth? Like fo real nigga, just go to lake lol

>>128607746
Qatar supports the muslim brotherhood which Sisi overthrowed in the 2013 coup and than designated them as a terrorist organization yet Qatar still continues to support them. Also Al Jazeera showcases Sisi's rule quite badly.

And if you add the fact that Qatar supported the Clinton foundation and that two weeks ago Trump met with Sisi and the King of Saudi Arabia i don't think there are any complications here.

>>128608298
I would be interested to know where Egypt's major surface combatants are right now. My guess is passing through the canal or getting ready to.

>>128608625
don't know if troll or retardation

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>>128608625
is this a meme

>>128600203
Are the Gulf States + Egypt doing this because of what Trump said / the pledges they made or is this just a coincidence in timing?

>>128608982
no one but them know

NEWFAGS:
Quit being stupid.
Get real facts into this thread or don't post.
If you want to make idiotic statements and ruin threads then go to fucking Reddit.

>>128600444
trips dont lie

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>>128608982
Trump said: Israel and Saudis will go full on jihadi support to fuck with Assad and Iran.

Qatar said maybe that is too autistic, and was thrown under the bus.

>>128608857
A war is too risky if you ask me. I think they are simply going to blockade the country for a long time to fuck it up. It will also greatly benefit the other gulf countries especially the UAE because Qatar airways is a rival to Emirati Air.
Also the same thing can be said about Oil Sales.

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>>128608298
They'll get pressured into line sooner or later. Probably sooner. It's not possible for them to "change sides" in this particular case, although one option for them could possibly be to emphasize their ties with Turkey going forward instead of KSA/UAE/etc. Anti-Shii'itesm is too powerful in Qatar and the region to start buddying up with Iran in any meaningful way. It's almost unthinkable.

>>128608732
Yes, but that's what I meant. That the issues with Egypt are particular and somewhat separate from the problems with KSA et all at the moment.

>>128605714
It's not hard to see though that the price of water would skyrocket as a result. Desalination is an expensive process meaning that poor people will most likely riot against the rich throwing the country into chaos.

>>128601454
I aint trying to read nothing in that hock-a-loogie goat fucker language

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>>128607286
>Tfw i dated a diaposa jew from boka raton (near miami)
Crazy ass niggas i say.

>>128609262
Gotta have warships in the gulf to do a blockade. The Saudis don't have enough especially given their troubles in Yemen, and Egypt has the largest navy in the region. They've also got those Mistrals that they're probably itching to try out.

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Reminder that Muslims lie all the times

this is a charade, don't fall for it

>>128608869
>surrounded by water on 3 sides

Omg allahu ackbar we're fucking thirsty!!!

>>128601454
Link the page.
I'm on the site but can't find the article.
I will even translate it.

>>128601355

This was what I was wondering. Qatar wanted a pipeline, didn't get it, and maybe they're now reconsidering their geopolitical allignment. They can still get a pipeline if they make nice with Iran over the LNG fields and dial back the support for "ISIS" in Iraq/Syria.

>>128600203
Why is this happening? Is because Trump pushes middle-eats countries against "terrorism"? Has somebody tell him what Saudi Arabia is? Are they going to invade Qatar?

>>128610052
War is imminent.

>>128609830
shit its now gone
i cant link it cuz 4chan thinks its spam

>>128610006
Yes, hitler did a bad job and keeping the crazy ones alive.

>>128610160
use Archive.is

but the translated google link please.

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>>128609669
(You)
>>128609561
God i hope the houthis sink one of their and some kind of huge happenning happens and it results in the third gulf war. I just missed me some happennnings. Also im going to Bulgaria next week than to Serbia so i'll probably not die.

Didn't Qatar start getting cozy with Iran recently? Of course (((they))) won't let them break away.

>>128610318
http://archive.is/nKB0T
youll need to use a translate program

>>128610318
https://archive.fo/aVWOd

>>128600203
Is the final islamic showdown about the begin ?

Have there been any statements or moves from the Turks?

>>128609369
Egypt and Saudi Arabia have good relations as of this moment and Qatar is a common enemy i think it just benefits them both in different ways.

Random thoughts I'm having:
>Qatar support MB, which's an enemy of Iran
>Saudi Arabia which's rumored to be a supporter of ISIS is an ally of Egypt and UAE against Qatar
>UAE isn't hostile against anyone not even Israel and Iran
>Saudi Arabia and Qatar both fund people against Al Assad but now they turned against each other
>Iran will evantually pick a side
>Tfw Iran will ally with one of its old enemies
>Tfw Syria might ally with Qatar after all these years (since bashar will follow whatever Iran does)
>Mfw MB might be an ally with the Syrian regime after all these years of constant hostility which leads us to a political solution inside of Syria

>>128610702
Has Trump said anything about this? He's being eerily quiet about such a big development. I would at least expect something like:
>Qatar has taken advantage of the American people for too long! Very disrespectful! Bad!

>>128610783
Этo пpaвдa чтo мнoгиe из вac yжe пoнимaют pyccкий язык?

>>128611002
oui

>>128610702
Nope the only big news in the country is that Germany has removed it's troops from İncirlik base. No statements about Qatar at all. I don't think erdoğan will cut relations with Qatar though but if the GCC forces erdoğan than i think he will.

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>>128610783
>MB is an enemy of Iran
Go back to school kiddo.

>>128600203
Why did the Jews do this ?

>>128600203
I hope millions of them will die from hunger.

>>128611002
a kak ne bi ponjemali?

>>128610991
Trump himself hasn't said anything, but cabinet members have.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/336339-mattis-tillerson-rift-between-qatar-other-arab-countries-wont-affect-isis

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/05/tillerson-urges-calm-after-4-arab-nations-sever-diplomatic-ties-with-qatar.html

Basically "sort it out without violence".

>>128611293
They tried to fix their relations but that never happened. Iranian proxies still fight the MB and carries witch hunts against them

>>128611466
Use archiving
>http://thehill com/policy/defense/336339-mattis-tillerson-rift-between-qatar-other-arab-countries-wont-affect-isis
https://archive.is/okiGv

>>128603858
>we export water to this shithole
how

>>128610783

MB is not an enemy of Iran.

Iran is a part of MB.

>>128611523
with ships

>>128603854

Any sort of conflict in the Persian Gulf would affect global energy markets. The strait of Hormuz is a strategically important region for energy exports from Iran and neighboring oil/gas producing states.

>>128610783

Is the Muslim Brotherhood an enemy of Iran anywhere outside of Syria? I recall that Morsi was trying to send feelers to Iran during his brief presidency in Egypt. Other than that they seem to have a common enemy in the Saudi monarchy, the Egyptian military, and the American government (depending on your views America's involvement with the Arab Spring back in 2011.)

> Tfw Syria might ally with Qatar after all these years

If Qatar does manage to make the switch their wealth could be extremely useful in reconstruction efforts once (if) the civil war is concluded.

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>>128611466
>middle east
>sorting out problems without violence
>ever
Time to get comfy, then.

>>128600203
>mfw the muslim version of the cold war is still going on
this just blows my mind sometimes

>>128611523
Perrier?

>>128610783
Also important to remember that Qatar was caught funding Houthis and Hamas, and was the main source of funding for Jabhat al-Nusra (AQ-S).
>2014 treaty between GCC explicitly instructs Qatar to "cease funding for Houthis" heavily implying they had been caught already providing it, rumors that funding and support for Houthis did not cease as per instructed
>JaN draws support away from Daesh in Syria, recruit from the same ideological pool, JaN has been much more effective, spearheading most of FSA army offensives
>Recent rapprochement between Saudi/Israel explains pressure on Qatar to expel Hamas leadership
>Qatari willingness to open dialogue with Iran upsets other GCC countries

All of these factors contribute to the current crisis

>>128611710
M113s are so kaiwaii.

>>128611560
>Iran is a part of MB
No this is not true they have their own ideology, but Khomeini was inspired by MB.

>>128600203
are you draging us into another war for Israel rabbi ?

>>128611560
W O K E
not
>>128611698
yes the MB was trying to ally with Iran consedring the Sauds really hated them. werent fast enough and they got couped quickly

>>128611602
That sounds expensive

>>128600908
Oh, and they had such a rich and deep soccer tradition there.

>>128601090
expelling mossad proxies... can't end well

>>128611560
>Iran is a part of MB
dutch education

>>128611989
ships are still the cheapest way of transportation for goods by far, only thing is they take a long time to get there desu

>>128612016
so wait we were at war someone who is our proxy
wat?

>>128601454
it'll be a trap to get ur IP never trust electric jews

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>>128611852
*glomps your car*
wat do?

>>128612208
https://archive.fo/aVWOd

>>128603858
wait a fucking second
except for kuwait oman and the countries that have cut ties with qatar all the other ones have to pass through the Suez canal to ship anything to qatar
Will egypt make an actual blockade of all ships destined to qatar?

#Israel/i Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman: 'This is a great opportunity for Israel to isolate Qatar from other GCC countries who like us'

>>128601355
This has nothing to do with muh terrorism, it's just a good cover for the fact that the Gulf Arab alliance don't like the fact that Qatar is warming up to Iran a and are developing in conjunction with Iran, the biggest gas field in the world.

They're just using Burger tactics to isolate Qatar,by labelling them terrorists supporters. The truth is, they're all terrorist supporters

>>128600203
This just an extesion of the already existing war so Saudia Arabia gets a good position in Middle East below Israel right?

>>128608142
Yeah, when they move into gold, they buy it by the metric ton.

>>128608869
Yes, derived from being bullied on the internet. wtf nigga just turn yo monitor off, look away lol

>>128600203
Hey look if there is any rich sandn. prince in here pls be my sugar daddy . im
>fat
>neet
>1.85 cm
>medium sized dick
>virgin asshole
>german (white)

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Getting ready for the great American state of Greater Israel.
Only true way to bring peace to the middle east is to have this region under American control.

>>128612096
Yes but water is cheap, meaning transportation raise the price a lot

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>>128612476
>#Israel/i Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman: 'This is a great opportunity for Israel to isolate Qatar from other GCC countries who like us'

That's a ridiculous statement from this imbecile yet again. Also shows diplomatic inexperience to interfere in inter-Arab disputes with a Jewish voice. Israel = the worst "ally" for any Arab country to have.

Anyone know where the Jordanians are in this?

>>128612476
Ehh, he's probably overstating it.
It's good for them, since along with the regular host of nutjobs Qatar wrote checks for, Hamas was among them.
But in terms of relations with everyone else, Isr-Pal conflict remains sticking point.
>>128612543
You're slightly right, mostly wrong.
The rest of the Gulf, and the US, have had a fraught relationship with Qatar over its support of the Brotherhood, in addition to groups like radical jihadists, for decades.
This is an old story coming to a head. The cozying up to Iran at a sensitive time, as well as a new Trump admin looking to get tough to terror financing, were the straws that broke the camel's back.

>>128612889
Qatar are backers of diverse groups that seek to overthrow the Jordanian monarchy. And the Egyptian government. And the Assad government. And anyone else that isn't some shade of Islamist.
You tell me.

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>>128600203
Good rundown on the countries' stated reasons for why this is happening:
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/06/05/Main-reasons-why-Saudi-UAE-Bahrain-and-Egypt-severed-ties-with-Qatar.html

The Gulf is going all-out with its accusations right now. Qatar has now been accused of supporting AQAP, Daesh, Houthis, Bahraini opposition, Qatif militants (Saudi Shi’a), and of course the Muslim Brotherhood, all at the same time.

Background piece on this from a few days ago before ties were severed, when the storm was still brewing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/01/whats-going-on-with-qatar/

Yemen's internationally recognized gov't (the one supported by the Saudis) has also cut ties with Qatar:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-yemen-idUSKBN18W0RS

Libya's eastern gov't (not UN recognized and holds little power) has followed suit as well:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-libya-idUSKBN18W11M

Keep an eye on East Africa next. Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti, and Comoros cut relations with Iran following the Saudi embassy attacks last year after Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr was executed.

Another thing to keep an eye on: The air base in this picture. It belongs to the United States but exists in Qatar's borders.

>>128612889

In Jordan.

>>128612349
I doubt they'll set up any blockade at the canal. Things get real when they do that. If they do anything it'll probably be in the gulf itself, especially if Iran is supporting Qatar.

>>128612349
>>128613409
The canal can't be blockaded by anyone without violating international treaty, specifically the Convention of Constantinople which the Suez Canal Authority is bound by. It would be a huge international incident that wouldn't be worth it unless a World War broke out (Britain broke the treaty during WW2)

It's just the next phase in the pipeline project. I guess Iraq is starting to turn around after Mosul and their plans in Syria are apparently done.

Now to get the source under right rule. And we can start making some money.

>>128613265

Fair enough.

>>128613289

Unfortunately.

If only the Hashemites had held on to Mecca.

>>128613286
It's best to be skeptical about the true reasons and intentions for the Ban. If they were really concerned about Islamist terrorism in their region, they'd be raiding mosques that are a hotbed of extremism and closing down Islamist institutions that have their headquarters in Saudi Arabia that promote divisive garbage around the world.

>>128601355
CIA is behind ISIS with Obama & Hillary right behind them.
Remember when Hillary "deposited" $1.8 Billion in Qatar Central Bank?
Qatar has no extradition pact with the U.S
This is all about cutting off Hillary and her cartel

>>128610783
Assad already made (temporary) peace with Qatar-supported "moderate rebels" in Idlib. Turkey and Iran are also in on this deal. That's why Saudis are now against Qatar - 'cause Qatar sided with Iran ad Turkey and Assad now can focus on fighting ISIS and regaining oil fields.

>>128614006
Oh of course. Those are their "stated reasons", not necessarily the real reasons. Personally, I think it's a realignment in the Middle East based on the new US administration's anti-Iran angle. Qatar enjoys pretty good relations with Iran, but the Saudis may think (or hope) Iran will face a reckoning in the future, with US support. They can't have any double-crossers in the ranks. This is a purge of the GCC-Egypt coalition before a potential conflict with Iran. Getting their house in order, basically.

This never happened under Obama because they knew Obama wasn't keen on a war with Iran. With Trump all cards seem to be on the table. In fact, a war would be great for Trump at home since it would probably help his awful popularity numbers and get the conversation on something besides FBI investigations. I also suspect that Trump's recent trip had something to do with this, there may have even been some kind of deal figured out between the US and the Saudis.

Just woke up. What is happening? Is shit going down? Why are the muzzies eating themself? Can I be excited for some war?

>>128603523
Many democrats want qatar intact, its where the DNC keeps its a lot of its slush funds. Hillary especially

Qatar is probably attacked as a scapegoat to show states in ME are "fighting terrorism".

Behind the scenes they probably supported "wrong" terrorists and have wrong shade of religion.

>>128614703
>I also suspect that Trump's recent trip had something to do with this.
Very likely, yes.
-Get tough on terror havens and financiers
-Disallow Iran purchase in GCC coalition
It's the most logical step. When push comes to shove, Qatar has nothing hard to fall back on. No reason to afford them any soft power. What are they going to do? Run a mean soundbite in al-Jazeera?

>>128615034
Substantial portions of the Arab world are cutting off relations with Qatar.
There won't be a war. It's all diplomatic.

>>128608625

>Burger education

>>128615034
Every relevant Arab country has cut diplomatic ties with Qatar. It seems very sudden if you haven't been following Qatar but TL;DR they're too cozy with Iran and Trump's new foreign policy angle makes that an untenable position for a member of the GCC.

So how do we avoid getting into a messy multi decade sanction spiral with Qatar ? How to make this move quick and easy?

>>128615973
The US has so far not sanctioned anyone and basically just said "sort yourselves out". So I don't think it's going to be messy for us at all unless we want it to be.

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>>128616344
Let's hope it works

>>128616621
imo this action against Qatar is fundamentally a response to a shift in US foreign policy so I don't think we're going to be completely removed from this.

This shit is so fucked up it's making my head hurts...

Just nuke everyone please and stop this madness

Also interesting to note that this happened a few days ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/middleeast/cia-iran-dark-prince-michael-dandrea.html

>>128615973
>>128615973
>avoid getting into a messy multi decade sanction spiral with Qatar ?
>>128615973
>How to make this move quick and easy?

Glass it, glass it all and let God sort them out.

>>128617122
Wasn't there UAE e-mail leak like 4-5 days ago showing how he had bribed US politcians with money?

>>128617085
Just realised how Globalist I sound.

No, just grab some popcorn and let them eat each other out

>>128611493
You are a ray of sunshine on an otherwise cloudy day.

>>128617194
There was an email leak, but there was no bribery found.
The most interesting part was that it showed them coordinating with hawkish, right-wing think-tanks.

>>128616785
Yes but hopefully we are just pulling the strings and not actually involved directly

are we nearing bump limit?

When will it all kickoff big a nice big war?

>>128617413
Thanks

I fucking called it that /sg/ mostly turned pro-Qatar now that Saudi threw them under the bridge.
Fucking low life mongoloids.

Either way, since this is a Qatar thread. This was posted last Saturday. Coincidence hmm?
https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/871006816938987520

>Word on the street is that Saudi Arabia is planning to invade Qatar with Egypt's help and Qatar has asked Turkey & Iran to protect it.

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>>128617616
No, it goes up much higher than this. Once it's at bump limit the numbers will become italicized ... check it for yourself and learn.

>>128617470
We will likely move our base for CENTCOM.
Perhaps some sanctions. Qatar is irrelevant enough, outside of their Islamist financing, that they can't really do much against us. Or any other Arab country, for that matter.

>>128617703
There is no way Qatar is being invaded. Fundamental misreading. It's not that dire.

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>>128600203
>mfw the arabian peninsula finally burns to the ground

Where's that bonganon that had family on the ground in Qatar? What's the situation looking like over there?

>>128618497
Looks like biz as usual.

http://www.
earthcam.
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/doha/?cam=doha

What's likely happening is Qatar has had to come to an agreement with Iran to supply their shared offshore gas reserve (North Dome/South Pars) to Indian and Chinese markets, and abandon the Syrian gas pipeline extension to Europe via Syria. Qatar and Iran are essentially producing out of the same massive offshore reserve in the Persian Gulf, and are competing on getting this gas to market. Back in 2016, Qatar had purchased a 20% stake in Rosneft along with Glencore, so Qatar will get a piece of the profits from the Russian gas dominance in Europe. Qatar cutting a deal would allow Qatar access to Iranian terrestrial pipeline networks into Asia, although likely not at the profit levels they would like if they had full control of the pipeline networks. Initially Qatar had planned a gas pipeline via Saudi and Syria en route to Europe, which was blocked by Syria back in 2012, and then Russia had officially entered the fray to defend their literal monopoly of the European gas market.

>>128619044
Enter ISIS, a Saudi-Qatari-US-Israeli backed private military contractors to overthrow Assad, get a puppet President in who would grant construction rights for the Qatari pipeline. This brute force strategy using foreign backed PMC's have utterly failed with Russian support. From the other end, the United Slaves of Israel have blocked Iran from building a gas pipeline through the military campaigns in Iraq, thus closing the Meditteranean corridor for Iran. This has forced Iran to focus their attention on supplying the Asian market, most noteably China, who have been purchasing an increasing amount of oil and gas from Iran and Russia, and less and less from Saudi and the other gulf countries.

>>128619102
China is doing this to try to force Saudi, Qatar, and the gulf monarchies to accept the Yuan for oil/gas payments instead of USD, and is putting the Gulf monarchies on a collision course with the United States of Israel and threatening the Petrodollar mercantilism racket. Whenever the United States of Israel dollar is threatened, a false flag ensues, and a major military campaign is executed. Iraq and Libya are perfect examples. As a matter of financial survival, Qatar had to make a deal with Iran since Qatar has been boxed out of the European market directly, and Iran was the biggest obstacle in getting Qatar's and other gulf monarchies oil and liquified natural gas to the two biggest markets in the region -- India, and China.

>>128617122
Please use archive.is to prevent clickbuxx

http://archive.is/S0lkK

>>128619044
>>128619102
>>128619158
Seems solid.
Bumping this

>>128612786

Trump should make a 300 KM American buffer zone around it.

>>128600203
>gulf states+Egypt cut ties to Qatar because it "supports extremist groups"

i thought it was because it aligned itself with Iran and the emir? sheik? sultan? grand pooba? Stepped on the pee pees of the other GCC's.

>>128620853
what i said was the "official" reason

>>128613265

All they want is unify the middle east.
Overthrow the saudis.
Whipe Israel off the face of the earth.


No matter what these saudi sponsered extremist groups say im pretty sure most peoples of the middle east like Qatar over Saudi.

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>>128600667
This is exactly what is happening. Saudi Arabia is laying the blame on Qatar, anyone with any sense can see that.

>>128613265
So are the Saudis. They're the main exporter of extremist ideology.

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>>128619102
I saved this last year during the election.

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>>128613286

>accused of supporting AQAP, Daesh, Houthis, Bahraini opposition, Qatif militants (Saudi Shi’a), and of course the Muslim Brotherhood, all at the same time.

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia would have been whiped off the face of the earth if this continued for a few years.

>>128621147
>Whipe Israel off the face of the earth.
Actually, Qatar has the best relations with Israel within the GCC, their support for Hamas notwithstanding.
Which isn't strange, given Qatar always played the role of regional spoiler.
>im pretty sure most peoples of the middle east like Qatar over Saudi
I'm pretty sure you're pulling that out of your ass, not that it matters either way.
>>128621424
Not MB. Or ISIS/AQ, for that matter.
Saudi and UAE have always been more cautious in who they sent money to, knowing their regional patrons were either "secular" or Islamist, but not hardline so. In previous diplomatic tiffs, it was the Saudis leading the charge alongside the US to get them to stop financing these groups. This isn't the first Gulf freakout over Qatar.
Qatar thought they saw a historical opening with jihadists and the Brotherhood, along with Turkey, and took it. In a sense, it was a shrewd move, since they couldn't acquire regional relevance by merely trodding the same path larger countries were using. But it was also risky to play both sides. Case in point: current events.

>Trump makes a speech condemning nations who fund terrorism
>encourages Muslim and Arab nations to put economic sanctions on countries that fund terrorism
>weeks later Arab countries are severing diplomatic ties with Qatar

I agree it's ironic that other nations that are known to fund terrorism are all of a sudden being moralfags but I honestly think this has something to do with Trump and the Saudi's trying to appease him, and that's good, the less nations who fund terrorism the better

>>128622303

Im not "pulling anything out of my ass"

Saudi Arabia is the second most hated country in the middle east, period.

Saudis are so hated they Pakistani military forces because it can't even trust it's own people.

>>128619044
>>128619102
>>128619158
good summary. thanks

https://twitter.com/DrMichaelOren/status/871646906753134592

>>128623036
Qatar wanted better relations with Iran fuckface

>>128623469
I really think Israel is overplaying where they stand in this. The Arab states are mostly thinking about themselves, and a bit about the US and Iran. Israel can try to claim relevance in this decision, but it comes off as butting in.

>>128623570
And with Israel too. What's your point?

>>128623570
What this fella said>>128624651

I refuse to believe the only reason behind this was better relations with Iran when they made it very clear that they intended to have better relations with Israel as well

>>128623036
The Saudis know that Trump is a fucking moron that can't point out Qatar on a map. They're doing this because they distracted him with glowing balls and sword dances, and now they get a carte blanche to take out a geopolitical threat that's been pissing them off for the past decade. If this was under Obama or Clinton's watch, the US would be immediately trying to remedy this with mediation & strong-arming because it doesn't serve our interests to have two allies (read: airbase locations) fighting each other.

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Its literally Gambia all over again, the Saudis are just like Senegal (another globalist jewish puppet)
Based al-Thani will make the Saudis bleed and god is with qatar

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>>128618074
About fucking time

>Qatar funding ISIS
>Saudis funding ISIS
>pretty much all Sunni states funding ISIS
>Israelis providing ISIS close air and medical support
>America periodically stirring the pot so ISIS doesn't get BTFO'd by Syria/Russia/Iran

Is this going to turn into a thing or are we just front-loading media coverage so Israeli Jets being shot down doesn't go front and center?

>>128611523
Presumably it's sent back by post from all the muds living in Paris.

>>128626132
>it doesn't serve our interests to have two allies (read: airbase locations) fighting each other.
US already has alternative basing options in both UAE and Saudi. We threatened Qatar during the Iraq War we'd pull out if they didn't stop supporting jihadists. They didn't stop, but we never made good on the threat.
Both UAE and Saudi would love to host us instead.

>>128626988
>lets move from one terrorist supporting country to another
BASED!!!!

>>128627068
KSA and UAE won't go where Qatar goes in supporting groups. Qatar has always been the worst of the worst. Not as big a political hindrance.

>>128626695
>Syrian army says KIKE fighter BTTTFFFO by glorious air defense
>RT and sputnik says its true so why does no one believe it?
It's a conspiracy ((they)) don't want you to know!

>>128627255
Where does Qatar go? Both Saudi and Qatar have armed ISIS secretly, where has Saudi gone where Qatar not?

>>128612869
>Israel = the worst "ally" for any Arab country to have.
Pfft. Get real man. Sunni/Israeli alliances run deep and are decades old at this point. They have immense geopolitical power together and much less separate. The whole invasion and destruction of Europe is predicated on that alliance as is the controlling of US foreign policy which requires both Jewish oligarchs, media, politicians, and Sunni oligarch, militas, etc.

>>128627255
>KSA and UAE won't go where Qatar goes in supporting groups. Qatar has always been the worst of the worst.
100% bullshit

>>128612889
Abdullah does what he's told. He's the best goy in the region.

>>128627408
>>128627602
Money from KSA and UAE does go to ISIS via private channels.
Qatar knows what money flows to ISIS, and they actively allow and encourage it. Government sanctioned. Along with al-Qaeda. And the Muslim Brotherhood, looking to overthrow essentially every government in the region.
This isn't news, and it's not recent.

>>128627714
>looking to overthrow essentially every government in the region.

what purpose would this serve?
qatar is tiny and would also easily slide into the chaos.

>>128624954
Heres the real reason. Pipelines are a meme.

Its the Muslim Brotherhood dummies. Their core ideology is pan-Islamism. Just take a look at this wikipedia page, they have political power in many Muslim countries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

They want to essentially unite all muslims under a caliphate, sound familiar? Yes ISIS and al-Qaeda have the same ideology, the MB's is done with a lot less violence and a lot more scheming. This is a threat to Saudi Arabia and Co because it means that if things were to go perfectly for the MB, the oil shieks would be deposed. The Saudi royal family are recognized by the top islamic authority as protectors of Mecca, blessed by Allah etc, etc, to rule over the Arabian Peninsula and protect it. This is why ISIS has also launched attacks in Saudi Arabia, because they believe that they are the true protectors, blessed by Alllah, etc, etc to rule. For some reason Qatar has protected the MB and given them sanctuary, of course if the MB can operate safetly there then they are a threat to the Saudis. The MB started the Arab Spring and succesfully managed to gain power in Egypt, before they were deposed of course. When that happened it signaled that they became way too powerful.

>>128627870
Most Muslims don't even want Saudis in Mecca anyway

>>128611523
Evian
Perrier

Gulf arabs are vacuous cunts who like name brand shit.

>>128616344
lets hope this is how it goes, will make for a comfy war watching from here.

>>128628030
>>128628030
Most Muslims hate the Saudis, the only reason they still exist is because the United States of Kikes wants them to.

>>128627714
I am not disputing that at all, but stating that KSA and UAE are innocent little lambs at state level is bullshit. Qatar is not doing anything special.

>>128627830
Qatar always played the role of a spoiler. By sticking their dick where nobody else would, they achieved unparalleled influence in matters nobody else had a say in. A tiny, irrelevant country manages to be the one-stop shop for MB, AQ, ISIS, etc. These groups had nowhere else to turn, and made Qatar kingmakers (Turkey was as well, but more limited to MB). It was this strategy that allowed them to be on speaking terms with the Israelis (when nobody else was) despite them supporting Hamas (another group nobody would touch). This regional strategy goes back literally decades. You can limit Google to search for articles over a few years old only to understand this support for destabilizing actors isn't a spur of the moment thing, and every regional Arab government hates them for it.

>>128628351
most muslims are oblivious to the geopolitics of their own lands.

>>128627830
He's retarded. The goal isn't overthrowing every state in the region. Their goal is creating chaos around the Shia axis so that they can destabilize those regimes and, ultimately, destroy their heretic cousins. They share this goal with Israel because the Israelis want some Shia clay themselves and the Western Oligarchs because they want the Sunni best-goys to allow them full unfettered access to all the resources and economic choke-points therein. eg. The supposed pipeline conspiracy.

>>128628505
Biggest Muslim country is in SEA, they all hate the Saudis because they're funding extremists in Indonesia.

t. family in indonesia

>>128628342
>will make for a comfy war watching from here.
Trump's going to be the Saudi's shabbos goy and do their bidding. He bowed to them once, he'll do it again

>>128627870
There are separate and sometimes overlapping motives for all the actors in the region. I don't see why the pipeline is a meme. It's not as though the Israelis and West are involved because they want to spread pan-Islamism for it's own sake.

>>128628479
i am well aware that qatar followed a very shrewd and ambitious foreign policy for a long time.

yet, i still don't get what qatar gains by setting the ground around itself on fire. why do they oppose both assad in syria and the saudis?

>>128600203
I'm an Intelligence Analyst in the Israeli army and OP doesn't know shit

>>128628921
drop a knowledge bomb on us, chaim

>>128600813
L arabia saudita finianzia l ISIS si sà...anche jabath al nusra/fsa...a me puzza sta cosa del qatar..se lo invadono è per le risorse naturali della regione cioè SOLDI che andranno in armi..sicuro...

>>128628351
The Saudis are covert Jews

>>128628662
yeah, the saudis fund islam all around the globe. are they also involved in malaysia and the phillipines?

>>128628921
Oy meshugenah! Give us the scoop already!

>>128628921
then enlighten us desu.

>>128627870
Thanks for explaining this a little bit this makes a lot of sense and I think this explains the reasoning behind these countries decision more.

>>128600203
sunni-shia war ????

>>128600203

A kazar tribe, living on Palestinian soil, promotes the isolation of Qatar.

Nice choice SHOLOMO ETTINGER

Nice choice, as Qatar will become an iranian blob.

(((You))) just expanded PERSIAN sphere of influence.

Go crying at your grandfather skin lamp now.

>>128628921
you wot m8 feck off fight me nigga

>>128629398
edgy

>>128628902
Assad, because he's not a MB-style Islamist. They even viewed more radical groups as preferable to him. Once they get in power, they return favors to Qatar, and now they have more influence. In that sense, not so different from any other Gulf state supporting the opposition.
They have a love-hate relationship with KSA over their support of MB. MB wants to overthrow the monarchy (along with everyone else, like Jordan, Syria, Egypt) and make it Brotherhood controlled. KSA obviously doesn't want to be overthrown, but Qatar, knowing nobody is supporting the MB, is willing to lend them a hand, so they acquire clout they couldn't otherwise get.
If Qatar hadn't followed through with this strategy, they'd have been swept along with whatever current KSA wanted. Now, they're a soft power in their own right. They talk with Israel, Iran, ISIS, AQ, MB, everyone. And up until now, the whole Arab world too. It was very ambitious. But also dangerous. As we see today.

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>Sandnigs fighting each other
Business as usual

>>128628351
When I used to work in KSA, I notice every devout Islamist Saudi in my office hated the Saudi royal family. Most of them think of the
House of Saud as a degenerate kike loving family full of hypocrites and who are controlled by the US. They're only in power because they manage to bribe the population with Neetbux, and the Wahhabi establishment with funding to spread their filth around the world. Once the oil runs out, the Saudi monarch will be overthrown and ISIS will run Saudi Arabia. With the way they're investing in properties around London, I assume they'll seek asylum there once the crazies gain power. The middle eastern region will be a source of happenings for decades to come. I wouldn't be surprised if WW3 starts there

>>128629771

Ah, so Qatar feared to be sort of "devoured" by the larger Saudi-Arabia, so they tried to gain an edge against them.

But isn't it true that other Gulf monarchies supported Sunni extremists, including ISIS, (against Assad and all around the globe) as well? Doesn't that make the Saudis laughably hypocritical by accusing Qatar of terror financing?

>>128611317
its not the Jews its the Arabs

or are they the same thing??

>>128630626

The Gulf Arab lobbies are significantly more powerful than the Israeli lobby; the only thing is that the geopolitical aims of those lobbies have converged within the last few decades.

Israel has genuine (albeit eroding) popular support with the American voting public which the Gulf Arabs generally lack; but the various Deep State factions are more pro-Arab and more cool to Israel than what /pol/'s conventional wisdom would suggest.

>>128630598
>But isn't it true that other Gulf monarchies supported Sunni extremists, including ISIS
To a degree, yes. But Qatar went further in terms of which groups, and did so with more state-backing. Countries like KSA and UAE did so with an eye towards more "moderate" groups. As for things like ISIS and AQ, it's private charities which the states are reluctant to stop. But Qatar didn't mind, and backed them at the state level anyway.
Also worth noting that what KSA deems "terror" (like the Brotherhood), the Qataris don't see the same way.

>>128601130
ISN'T IT ILLEGAL FOR JEWS TO TELL THE TRUTH

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REAL ANYMORE

>>128631815

But what justifies these lunatic ambitiousness, to overthrow the government of multiple, far larger neighbors? Imagine Switzerland plotting to destabilize the governments of Italy, Germany and France at the same time - they'd just dig their own graves.

Canada and the US agree about close to everything in foreign policy, so do us Europeans, but this tiny speck of land, that could as well be a part of Saudi-Arabia, risks everything to gain full autonomy?

>>128626372
Jammeh was /ourguy/ can you imagine, if he had won, could we have gotten a favor from us? Imagine that - he pulls it off, despite all odds Sengal btfo, UN btfo, people just shrug it off, and he stays in power. He doesn't know exactly why then we tell him about meme magic and our shilling, and a Bhutanese recipe forum that dabbles in geopolitics ironically supported him back into power. A head of state of a UN recognized country would owe /pol/ his reign. Sigh

>>128632459
>But what justifies these lunatic ambitiousness, to overthrow the government of multiple, far larger neighbors?
The desire to play a larger regional role than they otherwise would, as just another ally of the Saudis.
Worth noting movements like the MB aren't explicitly committed to violently overthrowing governments. And they have many members, but no friends among the governments. It's not quite the same as funding anarchists or what have you. More similar to Russia's relationship with some anti-establishment political parties in Europe. It's not quite so acute that you go to war over, more like a slow burning fire.
And Qatar wasn't hostile to other Arab countries or the US. They're certainly closer to something like Jordan than they are with Iran, though they align with groups looking to overthrow their king. When the US threatened to evacuate al-Udeid, they talked the talk about stopping support for jihadists, but in the end did nothing, figuring it would blow over. They smiled to everyone and said all the right things, which is kind of the entire strategy. They are very utilitarian (but with a clear Sunni Islamist bent).

>>128633575
Thanks a lot, makes you wonder where you got this in-depth knowledge from. Yet, I doubt your conclusion -- you can't truly call a country supporting murderers like IS for the sake of it utilitarian, they're rather nihilistic.

Speaking of which, what is the role of Russia in the Middle East conflict? If it is NOT about pipelines, then what are they doing in Syria?

>>128608298
why fuck with qatar just to get an iranian proxy in your backyard? are saudis retarded?

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>>128621643
Here's the highly circulated one.

>>128612196

You funded them to fuck Fatah.

>>128606276
Underrated post

>>128628921

Still no answer. Baitposting.