Drumpf

It takes a modicum of intelligence to get what he was saying.

I think he's saying if your cops (or even civilians) had guns they would be able to actually defend themselves.

>>128600090
Can you spell it out for me?

>>128599913
Ban assault trucks.

being soft on muslim immigration is more dangerous than guns in free access

>>128599913
Yeah, probably. And let's not forget that his tweets are the real problem this weekend.

>>128600216
Cops were there in under 8 minutes. Are you suggesting that if the attackers had guns some guy standing outside of a pub on a Saturday night would have shot all 3 before they could get more than 7?

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>>128599913

Trump is so based as Prez. MAGA!

>>128600230
After every shooting in the US, the media screams about gun control 24/7. They act as if killing the 2nd will end all violent crime. Trump is pointing out that they only push their pet issue when it's convient. You can take guns out of the equation and lots of people will still die.

>>128600386
For you, Ahmed.

>>128599913

He means that the gun grabbers always, always make every tragedy about MUH EVIL GUNS, but can't this time because no guns were used.

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Trump is the first pro 2nd president in 30 years.

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>>128599913
He means he doesn't have an inkling of human empathy and prefers to capitalize on tragedies for political gain. If possible he likes to do it while the families are still grieving. He would probably teabag the victims' mothers if given the chance.

>>128599913
OP is a faggot and a retard, as always.

none of this would have happened if georgina had a gun

>>128601153
Trump isn't a Lefty or a gun grabber though

>>128601043


Reagan wasnt pro-gun.

He passed the NFA that banned further production of Class III fully automatic weapons.

He was a California Republican, aka Democrat Lite.

>>128601350
I never said they were any better

>>128600230

Violence will continue no matter what weapon is utilized because of systemic societal issues; therefore, removing guns, cars, knives, etc won't solve the issue, it will only limit the liberties of law abiding citizens

>>128601487
>Reddit spacing
Kill yourself queermo

>>128600768
But no one says that banning guns will prevent literally all violence ever just reduce it which it did in this case. I guess he's making a strawman then

>>128601549
But it serves to reduce violence which is real argument

>>128599913
The point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making is you have autism if you can't understand the point he's making

>>128600216

cops had guns and an innocent bystander even got shot accidentally, lack of arms was not a factor here

>>128601815
>>128600542
>>128601225
The arguments of R_D

>>128599913
He means you are a moron.

>>128601509
You sure as shit empathize with dumbs.

Any thinking brain would support personal defense out of common sense.

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>>128600230
He calls out noguns fags who shit their pants when a shooting happens, but stay silent when people die without guns.

>>128601815
I'm a stupid-fuck liberal and therefore don't understand the point you're making.

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>>128601719
>But it serves to reduce violence

terrorists will always find ways to terrorize

next you will ban free speech because its violence against women

>>128602163
Who is staying silent exactly? If you wanted to bring guns into the debate then this incident shows how gun control prevents more violence as thankfully only the police were armed

>>128602364
>couldn't even follow the comment chain correctly
Maybe Reddit layout is better for you

>>128602408
Maybe everyone should have the right to own mustard gas also I mean they will still find a way to terorize right!

>>128602421
Only a Brit could twist their reality to fit this historical narrative autism...

You all were just attacked, WITHOUT GUNS; your cops RAN AWAY (without guns), and you still support gun control.

You all deserve to be Islamed.

>>128600230
S H A L L

>>128602408
>next you will ban free speech

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/04/theresa-mays-answer-to-terror-restrict-the-internet/

>>128600627
Welll, the UK does have a murder rate 500% lower than the US, so I think your media might be onto something m9. May I remind you that there are multiple sub-Saharan countries that have lower murder rates than the US.

>>128599913
kill yourself shill rat

>>128602040
Non-argument of (You)

>>128602661
One of the cops tackled one of the attackers and got stabbed, and another took one on with his baton. Both survived. Would not be the case had they had guns. Ever seen a gun attack with a 7:48 death to injury ratio?

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>>128602421
Oh yeah because a terrorist is going to get a gun legally.
>only the police were armed
No they weren't you fucking retard.
>>128602755
US has much more niggers. That's why they have so many gun related deaths.

>>128602977
You need to actually make a point for me to make a counter argument

>>128599913
Are you fucking retarded, OP? Sage.

>>128603125
>after 8 minutes all three attackers were shot dead
>police arnt armed

>>128603125
Nah m9. London has MORE black people percentage-wise than the US, and they still have a vastly lower murder rate (1.6/100,000 vs 4.5/100,000). And London has a population bigger than 80% of US states.

>>128602661
reminder again COPS HAD GUNS AND RESPONDED WITH 50 BULLETS SHOT INTO THE TERRORISTS

i know ur president isnt informing himself before capitalizing on tragedy for his own gain but can you not follow his example

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>>128599913
is this the united caliphate guy who posts anti gun threads daily?

>>128599913
>Is he suggesting that if the terrorists had access to guns there would be less deaths?
Strawman.
He's saying that if British people had access to guns like the US, there would be almost no terrorism.
When was the last time there was a terrorist attack where civilians were allowed to have guns?
The Muhammad Drawing contest where Achmed got btfo in Texas?

>>128602982
Literally every single gun attack with a high death:injury ratio has occurred in areas where people are not allowed to bring guns.

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>>128601043
>Reagan
>Protecting gun rights
Read a book nigga

>>128600230
The left in the US deflect from terrorism, violence, and crime in general by blaming it on the existence of guns. Instead of examining the real causes which are the bad guys themselves.

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>>128603369

the police man who had to fend them off with a baton sure would have enjoyed a hand gun.

silly goy, guns are obviously the devil of the earth!

>>128603359
Are you actually comparing a city to U.S. states? Are you retarded?

>>128600216
even if that is what he is saying, what the fuck is he sticking his fat nose into our fucking business for? Is he trying to sell guns? Every police officer in London and westminster is armed !!!!

>>128603450
>>128603506
>If everyone was armed terrorists would be too scared to attack
Is this what you actually believe? Why doesn't this logic follow on the countless mass shootings that happen in the US?

>>128603450
Germany, France, Belgium

>>128603236
>8 minutes
So they had to send for guns.
>>128603359
Niggers + guns = deaths
Niggers + no guns = less deaths
No nigger + guns = even less deaths

>>128603817
in gun-free zones, where it is illegal for a regular law-abiding citizen to have a gun.

>>128602638
Mustard gas is not designed to take out one target.

>>128603359
Statistics are just alternative facts m80

>>128603817
>Why doesn't this logic follow on the countless mass shootings that happen in the US?
>Doesn't realize most shootings in the US are black on black crime with illegally obtained weapons
u wut m8? are you really going to criticize without knowing the statistics?

>>128603369
You're missing the point.
Whenever there's a terror attack in the US that involves guns the liberals always bring up the usage of weapons as a basis for deleting the 2nd amendment.
>the liberals use the event as a political means to remove the 2nd amendment
Trump has done a similar thing by highlighting the liberals can't use their tired old argument of banning weapons for political good goy points by using this latest event.

>He's Shitposting to an international audience of billions.

>>128603890
>like in the US
So Germany, France, and Belgium have stand your ground laws?
When did that happen?

>>128599913
>What does he mean by this?

You really are a stupid piece of shit. Did you know that? Honestly, go find something sharp and do the world a favor.

The logic of the gun lobby extended to terrorist incidents where bombs are used like in manchester is that "If everyone had bombs they could have prevented it"

>>128603901
8 minutes for police to receive the first call till they arrived on scene and killed all three terrorists. Are you saying if the people standing outside a pub on a Saturday night were armed against 3 terrorists with weapons it would have been better?

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>implying any freedom loving american cares about people killing themselves and niggers murdering eachother
>thats what 90% of the actual "gun violence is"

>>128604093
why dont you educate yourself

>>128603786
>even if that is what he is saying, what the fuck is he sticking his fat nose into our fucking business for? Is he trying to sell guns? Every police officer in London and westminster is armed !!!!

Faggot, stop lying:

"The vast majority of officers are instead issued with other items for personal defence, such as speedcuffs, extendable 'ASP' batons, and incapacitant sprays such as PAVA or CS spray."

The vast majority are NOT armed.

>>128603817
>Why doesn't this logic follow on the countless mass shootings that happen in the US?
It literally does. Mass shootings almost always happen inside schools or universities, which are required by federal and often state law to bar the bringing-in of firearms.

>>128603817
>>If everyone was armed terrorists would be too scared to attack
>Is this what you actually believe? Why doesn't this logic follow on the countless mass shootings that happen in the US?
If you were paying attention, faggot, you would notice that they almost always happen in gun-free zones.

>>128604340
Germany, France, and Belgium don't have stand your ground laws. I already knew the answer.
Quit being butthurt because England is bending over for the BBC of Islam.

>Sandnigger attacks 50 people
>stabs and kills 7, injures more, hundreds running away.
>police arrive in 8 minutes to beat him with metal rods

>Sandnigger attacks 50 people
>Fires some bullets like a crazed savage, maybe hitting a few
>gets shot 50 times or more instantly

Really makes you think

>>128604186
Why do R_D get so triggered? It's almost like they can't handle alternative opinions without their mods deleting every non pro Trump post

>>128603450
That Texas incident was the cops shooting the terrorists you retard. May I remind you of the Pulse Nightclub attack, where one person managed to kill 50+ people in a state that has concealed carry? Not to mention the San Bernadino attack. RETARD ALERT, RETARD ALERT!

>>128604221
Yes

>>128603817
They happen in gun-free zones, which just goes to show the efficacy of not allowing guns.

>>128604636
No m8 Ollie after a couple pints would have headshoted all three before they go to their guns

>>128604221
If there were no ilegally carried weapons in the incident? Yes.

>>128604718
Pulse nightclub was a gun-free zone you idiot

>>128604654
>muh R_D boogyman
When was the last time someone on /pol/ was banned for having an opinion?

>>128604563
why are you so interested in what Britain does? Keep your nose out eh? Not your country not your business

>tfw the UK has 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people, while the US only has 466 per 100,000
>tfw after the labour party banned guns in 1997 the number of recorded attacks soared by 77%, more than 2 attacks every minute
>tfw kitchen knives are being used in as many as half of all stabbings in the UK, causing a group of doctors to call a ban on SHARP OBJECTS
>tfw

>>128604636
This what>>128604876 is unironically saying

>>128604987
Reddit fags think shadowbanning is a thing here so when they don't see posts supporting Hillary they assume that means they're all suppressed lolol.

>>128603901
So you're admitting that gun control works, good on you for accepting what so many of our burger friends fail to do!

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>>128604718
>That Texas incident was the cops shooting the terrorists you retard.
>Curtis Culwell Center attack
>Only Cops drew guns
lol okay
>Pulse Nightclub attack
Weapons are banned in Bars and Gays are liberal and don't carry guns
>San Bernadino attack
California has the strictest gun laws in the country.
Those last two played directly into what I was saying and the Texas incident, if you were 100% correct which you weren't, doesn't dismiss what I said. Are you even trying? Is this for the (you)s?

>>128599913
He's saying that liberals don't actually care about gun laws, they only use it as a distraction to avoid discussing muslims

>>128604718
Clubs do not allow firearms to be brought inside, it's heaven for a killing spree.

>>128604987
>not being able to read
I'm saying that on Reddit opposing views are deleted and it's almost like trump supporters here can't handle alternative opinions hence should go back

>>128599913
he' suggesting the problem are the terrorists, not whatever they use to inflict damage

Name one terrorist incident in the USA that was stopped before anyone but the terrorists got injured?

>>128604221
>would it have been better if britcucks had the capacity to adequately defend themselves

yes.

>>128599913
Dunno, ask Paris how no guns is working out for them.

>>128605265
>I'm saying that on Reddit
But we aren't on reddit you fucking idiot.

>>128605265
>confusing disagreement for being triggered
wtf is wrong with you britbong? Too used to Parliament requiring everyone to agree?

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>>128605108
>So you're admitting that gun control works, good on you for accepting what so many of our burger friends fail to do!
>gun control works
>evidence directly to the contrary

>>128605153

yes
dont any of you brits understand that people that illegally obtain guns will go to places where guns are BANNED to shoot law abiding citizens who DID NOT bring guns into the area?
how can brits be so stupid?

>>128599913
Don't you have to run and hide like cowards while romanians bash kebab and save your sorry skin?

>>128605476
It was an Australian. Big surprise, right?

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>>128603785
How is making a comparison illustrating the massive size of a city "retarded"? Please illuminate me, oh wise burger.

>>128605288
No one that I have heard says that terrorists arnt the problem but having access to guns would allow them to do far more damage. It's like the saying
>guns don't kill people, people kill people
Yeah but it makes it a hell of a lot easier

>>128605476
Inbred genepool

>>128603817

Because the mass shootings that succeed are the ones that get highly publicized. The incidents where a man with a gun stops the shooter before they can do as much damage as a successful shooting don't get the same amount of publicity.

Also regarding gun violence statistics and murder stats in general, look at Venezuela. They've banned guns and yet their murder rate is higher than the USA. Almost like there are more contributing factors than guns.

>>128605360
(You) can get off reddit but (you) can't get all that reddit off (you)

>>128605476
Who was that anon who said that Europeans don't have a concept of natural rights? This is just fucking evidence to that, imo. It's like they're actively working to find evidence as to why they shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, and when it doesn't show up they get triggered.

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>>128605108
Nearly all gun related crime in US is with illegal weapons.
>>128605047
pic related

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>>128605570
Why are you defending the brownies?
There's statistical evidence on every corner of the earth that the lighter the skin, the better the individual

>>128605360
I know but it's where you need to go

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Nice try jew, you know what he means you opportunistic fuck. And that's why he said it

>>128603369
SO WHY ARE YOU SO MUCH OF A PUSSY THAT YOU HAVE TO FARM OUT SELF DEFENSE RO SOMEONE ELSE?

YOURE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY

>>128605769
Are you literally retarded? No one here is triggered or wants to ban you. This is a forum for POLITICAL DEBATE. THEY ARE DEBATING YOU.

What were you expecting /pol/ to be ledditfag, us sitting in a circle jerking each other off about how much we agree? We've literally never done that, even during the election we were at each other's throats.

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>>128603506
"Muh gun free zones" - you realise every public space in Australia is a gun-free zone, yet we have 30 gun murders a year compared to literally 10,000 in the US. SHUT THE FUCK UP. It's the most pathetic and invalid Fox News talking point ever, I've heard it more times than children have been shot in the US this year, and that's a lot.

>>128599913
I am pretty sure one of these guys can get a gun. If you are determined you can get it. If you are really determined, you can I am sure buy the needed machine shop to create whatever gun you want.

They are not using guns, because they could always clamp down further on guns and this would assuage fear. By using things they can't clamp down on, they create more fear than they would if they used guns.

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hmm

>In 2015, there were 372 mass shootings and 33,636 deaths due to firearms in the U.S, while guns were used to kill about 50 people in the U.K.[96] More people are typically killed with guns in the U.S. in a day (about 85) than in the U.K. in a year.


Makes ya think though, doesn't it?

>>128605769
Why because I disagree with you? Every post you've made this thread as well as how triggered you are by different opinions screams reddit.

>>128605870
I think the point he was trying to make was
>People still get killed if you ban guns
But he's missing the point that in this incident especially gun control minimised the death toll significantly >>128605870

>>128605343
>> Let me constrain my point so far as to be retarded.

Lets put it simply: an armed response civilian is better than running away or waiting 10 mins for police.

Getting 0 casualties during an attack is impossible, but minimizing casualties is a worthy goal.

>>128599913
it means they will always find methods to kill your ass, Ahmed.

And making yourself weaker is not the solution

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>>128604841
>there's no one responsible or sober enough to CC in England

Are you guys really that drunk and weak?
If so, you deserve to be in the Caliphate.

>>128601585
>Reddit spacing

I honestly wish you would fuck off with this forced meme. Just another way for you newfags to one off greentext your way out of actually debating or defending your point.

>>128605982
No I was referring to this post >>128604186
Literally not an argument

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Hahaha this guy

>>128606042
That's because your country actually has its shit together economically. You don't have literal slums in all of your cities where the residents are trying to kill each other. There is almost zero correlation between gun ownership rates and violence. There is only a correlation between poverty and violence, and culture and violence.

>>128605703
Where do these illegal weapons come from? Do Glock just assign shipments to the black market? No, they become "illegal" when lack of regulation lets them be stolen or sold without oversight. Thus, prudent gun control/storage regulations are essential, and are things the US does not have.

>>128599913
He means that the media would hysterical with anti-2nd amendment propaganda if the terrorists had used guns

>>128606098
See >>128606387

>>128606078

Again constraining the dialog to guns.
Look at overall rates of violence. You fuckers are now after goddamn butter knives and sharp sticks. Self defense is outlawed.
Its like an entire island of idiocy.

In the US the 33k number is horse crap:
1. suicides are counted -- its not the government's concern if someone off's themselves.
2. 10k of the number are niggers killing each other at rates comparable to subsaharan africa.
3. the remainder shows a statistical murder rate of LESS than most of europe.

In short, niggers and suicides are responsible for that 33k number that gets batted around.

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>>128606042
It's against the law to bring a gun into a gun free zone. You are a criminal if you do so. Austrailia is an island why are you comparing it to a massive country with two huge borders to countries that have guns?

Also pretty sure a cop was shot with a nigger rigged gun the other day.

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>>128605713
>the lighter the skin, the better the individual
good thing im as white as fucking ghost then

>>128606387
Oh, yeah no he's a leddit fag without a doubt. Look at his spacing.

OP needs to stop trying to take the focus off immigration. Guns are not the issue. Foreigners are

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>>128599913
>>128600090
>>128600216
>>128600230
Fucking niggers.
He is saying that even if you implement gun control and take the population's guns away they will still find a way to carry out murders.

>>128606585
>confusing statistics with individuals
Statistically, anon. You're still probably a piece of shit, like the rest of us.

>>128606078
Yeah especially when a huge majority of those deaths are suicides and gang related.

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>>128606542
>if you ignore a third of the murders, it's less than europe!

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>>128606757
maybe but at least i still find the strength to give em the ol razzle dazzle

Ahhh I can always tell when the fags in CA are waking up

>>128599913

Wow, Brit. You really are fucking stupid.

>>128606637
His argument was entirely that I was a piece shit and I should kill myself which is why I said he seems easily triggered and perhaps would prefer a hug box like R_D

>>128606896
I normally only go on Brit/pol/ but thought Id make a thread about this. The feeling is mutual

>>128606719
this is the only correct answer in the thread

He means that even if you manage to keep guns out of criminals' hands, they'll find another way to kill if they're motivated.

>>128606809

Typical retard: blame an inanimate object instead of the underlying root cause.
Blame the nigger, not the gun.

In your world:
>> nigger shoots people
>> remove guns from whites!!
>> Niggers shoots more people.

yeah, fuck off -- faggot. I'll keep mine for defense of self and family. You can suck off the jihadis.

>>128607090
>>128606719
I figured that's what he meant
See >>128606130

>>128607041
>we don't like freedom, daddy government knows best XDDDD
pleb

>>128607174
Serious question are you 12?

>>128607174
Because only America has gangs and gangviolence. I guess it must be worse there though seeing as you're only 53% white.

>>128599913
>Being this stupid

He's saying that people who want to kill other people will find the means to do it, but his logic is flawed because they would have a better chance of killing more people if they had access to guns.

>>128606479
>gun control/storage regulations
You just need one of these. I guess they do it right in Switzerland.

>>128607432
That's what I said the "what does he mean by this" was merely a meme
>>128606130

>>128603786

>what the fuck is he sticking his fat nose into our fucking business for?

That is absolutely hilarious considering how many threads you worthless cunts start about gun control, healthcare, and everything else in the United States.

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>>128606809
> if we ignore suicides in Lithuania, Poland, Belarus and Russia, it`s less than North America

>>128606549
Why are so many Americans invalids? I know what a gun-free zone is. They don't exist in Australia or Western Europe because it's illegal to bring a loaded gun into ANY public space unless you're a cop or security guard. Yet we still have exponentially lower homicide rates than the US. How is this so if gun free zones are massacre hotspots lel? We haven't had a gun massacre here for over 21 years. The US had one literally a couple of weeks ago, and possibly another today...

>>128606809
Classic American logic "If we ignore 90% of crime, we're actually not a 3rd world shithole". Only way they can live with themselves.

>>128607694
Your president tweeted about our laws. Most probably because they were talking about it on Fox and Friends

>>128599913
he's obviously saying that you don't need guns to comit massive terror attacks

>>128599913
Gun control is pointless because weapons are impossible to get rid of.

>>128607473
You do realise in Switzerland it's still illegal to have a gun in public unless you're on active militia duty? And to be in the militia, you need to undergo extensive mental health and background checks? Thus they still have far more gun control than the US.

>>128608092
But 7 people died imagine the damage three men with guns could have done its obvious to everyone

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>>128607775
No m8 this is the only solution

>>128600230
g.o.
f.u.c.k.
y.o.u.r.s.e.l.f.
s.h.i.l.l.
s.a.g.e.

>>128601487
>what was the fire arm owner protection act
It furthered firearms rights in alot of ways, as a compromise the dems added the hughes amendment. At the time they thought the rest of the bill was worth the machine gun ban.

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>>128599913
No he is suggesting that if uk citizens had guns they would kill the sandniggers before they got killed.

Poor Trump doesn't understand the reason uk people keep getting killed is because their men are nothing more than emasculated beta cuckboys that a less of shadow of what they used to be and even with guns don't have the balls to fight back.

>>128606042
Official data:
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/10/total_number_of_gun_deaths
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states#total_number_of_gun_deaths

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>>128608515

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>>128608513
Hahahaha just looked it up and they're actually real, classic US. True land of the free, where kids have to bring bulletproof bags to school.

guns aren't the problem goy

its muslims

>>128606042
>gun murders
Gun murders. The ultimate dishonest rhetoric.

How about just MURDERS. Did limiting access to guns decrease the MURDER RATE?

>>128604221
Yes you retarded Anglo-Pakistani rape baby, that is the whole go-sorry, Allah-damned point of concealed carry.

>>128608766
I said gun "MURDERS" retard; "gun deaths" include accidents and suicides. I know Romania is an impoverished and generally illiterate country, but pls learn to read.

>>128608753
Do you really if three men stepped out of a van and started shooting into the crowd outside a bar that the death toll would be less than 7, given that presumably everyone at the pub was armed and shot back?

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Why is there a weapon ban in airplanes? If everyone has a gun, then the plane can't be hijacked and flown into buildings.

>>128608889

What's funny is that Russians actually pay retards to have pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian and pro-Trump opinions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

>>128609049
Yes, almost 50% reduction since the early 90s. From almost 2/100,000 then to 1/100,000 now.

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>>128609219

forgot pic

>>128599913
That's very funny, Brit. Think about that joke when you turn around and see the muzzie waving the 12" knife at you.

>>128602755
The US also has 500x the amount of niggers the UK does

>>128609200
If only the pilots were armed on 9/11

>>128608936
Yeah it's mandated, the bag ways a ton, but such is life in the US of A

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>>128609347
Can you prove that it's because of the gun ban?

America went through a similar reduction in homicides, but they still have guns.

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>>128609158
All I hear is: "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" "I'M A EU KEK" .

Get used to seeing white children getting murdered by sandniggers and go back to jerking off to white guilt porn you niggerlover.

>>128609392
London has far more per capita but still far less murders

>>128607775
We have ten million more blacks than you have people. I understand rates and that, but do you really expect our population to have the same laws as yours? And have them work? Getting guns illegally isnt even that hard.

>>128609770
Convincing argument I would still rather live in Peckham than Brazil tbqh

This really was incredibly stupid. It's showing that gun control works. The argument that the criminals will be able to find guns to do crime with and everyone else will be defenseless has been destroyed. If these people had guns they clearly would have been able to kill many more, but thanks to gun control, they had to resort to stabbing people which allowed others to fight back and defend themselves. Trump is a moron.

>>128609758
To clarify, the homicide rate in America has halved since the early 90's as well more or less.

>>128606078
Now post the violent crime stats for the UK you faggot.

I'll even give you the "murders by gun" in the US, even if it's probably including criminals shot by cops, and other criminals.

>>128609824
Per capita doesn't mean shit when your country has almost 40 million niggers

>>128610069
Obviously an american of sound mind and true Anglo origin

>>128610057
Too bad Peckham will be worse than Brazil a few years from now, and your police isn't even ready for that.

>>128600401
this

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>>128610189
Oh man you really are reddit aren't you? You've been doing the 4chan equivalent of upvoting by jerking off every poster who agrees with you. It's adorable really.

>>128610114
I actually grew up in South Africa and agree guns are needed there. But on topic Trumps point is still invalid or at the very least easily countered

>>128602690
N O T

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>>128610463
>Its adorable really

>>128602755
States with comparable black population ratios have vastly lower murder rates and crime rates in general. And while murder may be higher in America, violent crime is way higher in the UK. After the UKs bug gun grab push, violent crime shot up.

>>128608006

And? Your cunt leaders whine about American laws constantly.

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>>128608260

lol

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>>128610114

>>128599913
BTFO

>>128609347

What a coincidence. Our murder rate dropped just as much, while we doubled the number of guns in the country.

>>128609824
>London has far more per capita but still far less murders

Faggot, the UK doesn't count something as a "murder" unless their is a conviction. Comparing the UK "murder" rate to the US murder rate is apples and oranges.

You libfags just can't be honest, can you?

>>128600230
c-u-n-t

>>128611707
*there

Goddammit I hate typos.

>>128600230
WE

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>>128610463

>All these fucking retarded American drumpfkins

Three terrorists had free reign attacking a busy street for eight minutes in a perfectly executed scheme and they ONLY MANAGED TO KILL 7(SEVEN) PEOPLE.

Which is barely more than some random hobo pulled off in Orlando today, all on his own with no planning.

Guess what the difference is? Can you? Do you even dare consider it? Or are you too afraid that your paper thin logic will break apart upon the slightest bit of examination into what could have possibly caused this terror attack to be so limited in casualties, and what it might have looked like if the terrorists had the same privileges as the guy in Orlando?

>>128611707
took 2 seconds in google
>the number of homicides counted is the total number of victims killed

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/compendium/focusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2015/chapter2homicide

>>128611926

>only 7 people died, so far, and let's pretend there weren't dozens of other injured and crippled

Yurope in a nutshell. You people might actually deserve what's coming.

>make guns easily available
>country flooded with guns
>criminals can easily get hold of guns
>buy gun 'for mah freedom'
>buy gun 'to overthrow the government if they get out of control
>in reality buys gun to defend self from all the criminals that now have guns

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>>128613030

>make guns easily available
>country flooded with guns
>halve violent crime rate in two decades

Good chat Ill be sure to repost tomorrow