/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - ALL Y'ALL NIGGERS

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Wassap Slovakia, FF here.

>>128598596
I was wondering if I should do a "family" thing where I make a logo etc for my family (Like a family emblem)
Also have a uniform that my children will wear whenever I'd like them too. (like a social even that the family will be participating in)

It'd be a way to have the children grow closer and something to represent the family...

Thoughts?

fuck roads

>>128599715
I myself have a family crest, it's up to me to pursue the family goals. Me and brothers are making sure the family stays together and has the right values. I don't know about uniforms tho. Not really my thing.

>>128599715
Create a family legacy and represent it well.

>>128597593

>>128597593

>>128597593

Guys when Kansas cut taxes, why did it fuck their economy?

>>128600204
I don't think my family has a crest so that's why I'd like to adopt one when I have a family.

I think it'd also make a statement in a way, when everyone in the family is dressed the same(Shows unity, order, discipline).

>>128600361
Yes. That is what I want to achieve.


Are there any books that are a guide to raising a family properly?
I haven't found one yet and would like to know more so I can do it correctly the first time.
(I do understand the basics though, I just would like to have more info on hand.)

>>128600591
Be more specific about what went down, could you point me to some information?

>>128600725
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-kansas-sam-brownback-tax-cuts-20170321-story.html
These tax cuts, getting rid of income tax on small businesses.

>>128600725
>>128600928
and cutting the top rate of income.

>>128600712
Can't point you to any books, my families legacy comes from within us. We fight an eternal war, it's our destiny to crusade against the world. This family comes first. We might as well be commies or national socialists in this sense.

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>>128597593

>Royal libertarians

>>128600928
Just barely skimmed through it, seems like they lowered taxes by a bit at the same time shit got fucked up. Doesn't really talk about the cause of the economic failure, I can't really comment sorry.

>>128601737
nay bother.

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>>128600977
What do you make of Labors land tax scheme aka the "garden tax"?
When was the last time you saw a dentist?

>>128602099
Saw a dentist last month and I fucking hate pretty much all of labours tax policies.
Btw i'm not a libertarian I just wanted to know your thoughts on the kansas tax system as someone I knew at uni was banging on about it.

>>128601456
>WE WUZ ROYAL LIBERTARIANS N SHIET
Seriously, fuck off. This is a thread dedicated to RIGHT wing libertarianism, not leftist garbage, which includes geofaggotry

>>128601456
I like the Royal libertarian meme. Sounds pretty cool.

Btw, left-Libertarians and shit libs like you are cancer, not even "useful" idiots. Just irrelevant.

>>128601456
>geofags

haha no thanks

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>taxation is the-

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>current year
>not being communist
enjoy your dystopia

>>128602836
>its insulting
>therefore its wrong
spoken like a true libshit

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>Antifa area bad peo-

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>>128602438
>>128602701
>>128602816

>durr sneak memes and muh NAP

sick arguments! Admit it your just ITT because you like the color scheme; do you even know what property rights are or what they imply?

>>128602836
If a guy breaks down in your house but use the money to heal her daughter,would You consider this theft a good thing ?
If You say yes you're retarded
If You say no you're a hypocrite

>>128603159
We go through this with you almost everyday. It's not useful to argue with you anymore.

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how long has this daily been going on?

this my shit

greetings from the UK, all

>>128603053
>selling ice cream
>to fight capitalism

>>128603053
>selling
>to fight capitalism

>>128603159
I said it once and I'll say it again. This is a thread dedicated to RIGHT WING libertarianism. Geofaggotry is a leftist ideology you prick, so go fuck yourself. Every single time I come to /lrg/ I see your bullshit and it's tiring. Get lost

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>>128603452
feel free to refute;
>Georgeism reconciles common land rights with private tenure, free markets and modern capitalism.
>Those who got the upper hand by securing land tenures would support public services, so wages and commerce and capital formation could go untaxed.
> To pay the taxes, landowners would have to use the land by hiring workers (or selling to owner-operators and owner-residents). This would raise demand for labor; labor, through consumption, would raise demand for final products.
>To pay the workers, landowners would have to produce and sell goods, hereby raising supply and precluding inflation. Needed capital would come to their aid by virtue of its being untaxed. Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke.
>George's proposal enables us to lower taxes on labor with out raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labor and capital at once, and without reducing public revenues.
> Georgist tax policy reconciles equity and efficiency. Taxing land is progressive because the ownership of land is so highly concentrated among the most wealthy,'8 and because the tax may not be shifted. It is efficient because it is neutral among rival land-use options: the tax is fixed, regardless of land use. This is one favourable point on which many modern economists actually agree, although they keep struggling against it
>George showed that a tax can be progressive and pro-incentive at the same time. Think of it! An army o fneo-classicalists preach dourly that we must sacrifice equity and social justice on the altar of "efficiency". They need that thought to stifle the demand for social justice that runs like a thread through The Bible, The Koran and other great religious works.

>>128602836
i ain't paying for jamal's health care and niglets you nigger enabler

>>128603159
>what property rights are or what they imply?

they imply freedom and real private property instead of

>MUH LAND ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY FOR LAND OMG WE'RE EXPLOITED :((((((

also the geofag color scheme is literally shit-tier

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the Libertarian party in the UK is fielding four candidates for the General Election

Will Taylor, the Hull candidate, has been speaking of the masses of support he's been seeing on doorsteps

I really do think there is a chance in the UK in 5-20 years time of a strong Libertarian representation in parliament, possibly even a county under a Libertarian council

we can hope. interesting developments.

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>>128603784
>left wing

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>>128603784
>comunism

Thomas Jefferson:

[Feel free to skip the first four paragraphs, which are undoubtedly due to Marx’s influence on Jefferson. I particularly would like to hear your analysis of the last and longest quote.]
“I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self-evident, that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living; that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by any individual ceases to be his when he ceases to be, and reverts to the society…”

“Whenever there are in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right.

“In Europe the lands [that are not] cultivated are locked up against the cultivator. …This begets dependence, subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue and prepares fit tools for the design of ambition.

“I think our governments will remain virtuous..as long as there are vacant lands [available] in any part of America. When [Americans] get piled up on each other in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt, as in Europe.”

“That the lands within the limits assumed by a nation belong to the nation as a body has probably been the law of every people on earth at some period of their history. A right of property in movable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands not till after that establishment. The right to moveables is acknowledged by all the hordes of Indians surrounding us. Yet by no one of them has a separate property in lands been yeilded for individuals. He who plants a field keeps possession till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated and their owner protected in his possession. Till then the property is in the body of the nation.”

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What's up Slovakiabro and Ameribro.

How are my fellow NRx-tier, gun-loving, commie-destroyer, fag-crusher, Hoppe-quoting right-wing libertarians doing?

>>128603746
>public services
>taxes
>progressive
>An army o fneo-classicalists
>social justice

literally modern liberalism holy shit kill yourself my man

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>>128604270
A bit bored

>>128604270
things are going well in uk

uk libertarians have highest party membership statistics ever

>>128604079
>implying we give a shit about what Jefferson has to say about it
go fuck yourself you stupid retard nigger. We don't want your leftist garbage here

>>128603920
>tax
>government
>""""reasonable""""

fuck off

>>128604079
>Government must be established
>the property is in the body of the nation.

how about no

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>>128604459
Based French de Lesquen bro is here too!

>>128604468
Good luck to y'all in the elections. Very disappointed with May trying to (((regulate))) the internet to fight "extremists." We all know they're just going to shut down right wing websites.

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>>128604287
We call ourselves the "party of principle," and we base property rights on the principle that everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. Land, however, is not the fruit of anyone's labor, and our system of land tenure is based not on labor, but on decrees of privilege issued from the state, called titles. In fact, the term "real estate" is Middle English (originally French) for "royal state." The "title" to land is the essence of the title of nobility, and the root of noble privilege.

>We are libertarians who make the classical liberal distinction between land, labor and capital. We believe in the private possession of land without interference from the state, but in the community collection of land rent to prevent monopolization of land.

>We believe that all government activities should at least be limited to those which increase the value of land by more than what the government collects, and that government should be funded entirely from the land value increases it creates.

>We oppose direct state monopolization of land as well as state-sanctioned private monopolization of land, and advocate that state and federally held land pay land rent to the communities the same as private land.

>We advocate that government be allowed to spend only what is authorized by voter referendum or similar device and that it take for itself the minimum it is authorized to spend. Those who advocate collection of the full rent stipulate that the proceeds be divided among community members on a per-capita or similar basis, for the land, and the rent, belong to the people, not the state.

>We condemn the taxation of property improvements, and of all activities, productive, consumptive, or recreational, as invasions by the state into the private affairs of free individuals.

Do you even know what liberalism is?

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>>128603053
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Capitalism wins again Lefty faggots!

>>128604792
>Do you even know what liberalism is?

Do you?

nigger you keep copypasting inconsistent bullshit that can't keep your story straight. You are for tax, government, and public services as quoted. We all know what those eventually evolve into as they naturally degenerate as shitty system.

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>>128603053
this one will always be favorite

>>128604270
Things are going well. Representing the crew just right.

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book club

discord /VRmt3h

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>>128604270
preddy gud

think we're gonna see the rise of a new Pinochet in our lifetime lads?

>hates commies
>declaring martial law because he's pissed
>now with helicopters

it's only a matter of time

>>128606642
give us the link

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>>128605617

for what its worth, Marxists acknowledged that the only way for their ideology to truly succeed was through worldwide revolution. if you still have a lot of people following capitalist protocol, it means you have to play their game on some level in order to cooperate with them.

the people who have that momument still have to pay taxes and rent like other people in a capitalist society. so to say that they should magically not have to do that, and then laugh at them when they do and claim that it highlights the failure of their beliefs is kind of silly.

>>128606976
Propaganda warfare is never based in truth. Even if for a true cause. Commies are scum for their beliefs, not because they sell ice cream. It's just a good laugh at them.

>>128606976
Why would the marxist dialectic end at communism ?
It isn't the bible where there is an end If the world right ?

>>128603746
His great grandfather didn't just "put up a fence" around 60 acres, you fucking imbecile. You are paying a monetary value to compensate for the fact that a blood price was paid for that land. A price of conquest. Indian savages had to be killed and forcibly removed, and then the land had to be defended. It did not come free. When you grow the balls to go take some land for yourself, then you can charge rent for it, too.

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>>128606976

>>128607471
>propaganda warfare is never based in truth
>commies are scum for their beliefs

let me guess, its not propaganda is you do it eh mcarthy?

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Is this the most definite list of the most libertarian US presidents?

>>128607866

I really, really like this image.

>>128607888
No I am a propagandist, in open about it.

>>128606976
in what way is scale relevant?

if you idea actually works, it works regardless of outside forces. You're not seeing the picture for what it was: there was NO way to maintain that statue without capital. Could they have appointed someone locally to at least keep it clean every once in a while for greater good of party out of goodness of their heart and love for proletariat class? No. They needed to PAY someone to get something done. Either that, or force someone against their will with force to maintain that statue, which is fucking slavery.

If the entire world was communist, it still would not be enough because when do you draw the arbitrary line of when communism works? at X population? at X amount of countries? You had Soviet Russia (Eastern Europe) and Africa. In fact, you still have Cuba, South America, and fucking China. But all those countries and their massive population just weren't real communism enough, weren't they? Pathetic.

it's ridiculous to think that scale has anything to do with it. Capitalism works the same way between you and your neighbors locally, and internationally between countries. Your system either works or it doesn't. I'm justified in laughing because your system is just the pinnacle of failure time and time again

>>128607963
>no "the man who killed the bank"

>>128607963
definitely needs more Andrew Jackson, arguably Thomas Jefferson

fine selection of top lads though

>>128607527

I didn't say it does, I pointed out that the Marxists knew that their ideology was not sustainable as long as they had to play by another ideology's rules. Hence, the need for worldwide revolution. Check out some Trotsky to get a better understanding. The need for worldwide revolution is a goal, its a self criticism.

>>128608489
>Andrew Jackson

Massive federalist

>Thomas Jefferson

Georgist

>>128608509
I referenced your idea as a whole and the picture You posted
You won't end the master/slave dialectic just hy abolishing private property

>>128608696
>massive federalist
>abolished the national bank...twice
He would be Pinochet-tier by our standarts

>>128608696
b-but Andrew's muh banks

and yeah Jefferson had Georgist influence economically but they were still important towards keeping a limited government. Presidents at their best can be minarchists, you naturally you just can't expect ancaps out of them

>>128608489
Jackson is debatable for me just like Jefferson. Both had healthy views about economy but turned out to be quite hypocritical when they became presidents. Jefferson with the embargo and Jackson with the spoils and indian removal (and I'm talking about 5 civilized tribes here). But I'm not someone who hates on historical figures just because they did something wrong because it's impossible to find a president who didn't send troops somewhere or didn't do something unconstitutional. But if we add them then James Monroe belongs to the list as well.

>>128608216

>there was no way to maintain the statue without capitalism
>they needed to PAY someone to get it done

you answered your own question. why could they not "appoint" someone? because nobody was willing to cooperate. the people who were able to maintain the statue demanded capitalistic compensation for their work, because they are capitalists.

Then you move into the "real communism" agreement. Never mind that all of these countries have had to deal with constant conflict with the capitalist world. Soviet Russia and Eastern Europe were under constant economic threat from the USA, and Africa has had their mineral rights speculated on since before they had a standing government of any kind. Cuba had a worldwide embargo until recently, South America is undermined by the USA fueling their illegal drug trade, and China has a weird form of communism that is pretty odd by any standard.

To say that "your system either works or it doesn't" is pretty childish. What about all the people failed by capitalism? There are a lot of third world countries I can point to that have a capitalist society but are still shitholes. Can I claim that they are shitholes because of capitalism?

>>128608953
Jackson, the man who said:

>"John Calhoun, if you secede from my nation, I will secede your head from the rest of your body.

Hmmm yes, very pro individual rights, very libertarian!

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>>128609261
And I need to finally read this book. Recarving Rushmore and Politically Incorrect Guide to US Presidents (I know I know but this one is actually good) are the only non-standard non-leftist etc books about presidents I know.
I always check on FDR and the Great Depression to see if a book is good or not. It's my litmus test.

>>128609551
As I said retarded bong with No reading comprehension who tries to be ironic because when he gets serious his rotten teeth make him bleed
He is pinochet-tier,freed the economy but acted as a tyrant

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>>128603746
>that pic
>a state, an intangible power structure, declaring half of an entire continent as their belonging is the same as a farmer homesteading and passing his property to his children
>people owning land can just own more and more and will still be renting after 3 generations
pic related, what happens when autistic people like you run a country.

>>128609261
James Monroe is pretty cool, yeah

the Era of Good Feels must have been a great time to be an American

>>128609428
>why could they not "appoint" someone? because nobody was willing to cooperate.
>if I can't swindle people into doing free shit, it must be THEIR fault not mine!

and you're calling me childish? this is the kind of entitlement mentality that composes a lot of liberals and communists. It's always them, not me. Absolutely childish to the core.

>Never mind that all of these countries have had to deal with constant conflict with the capitalist world.

if they were so good, then the system would account for that and they would of continued to succeed indefinitely. Stop blaming other people and start blaming yourself to actually fucking improve

>What about all the people failed by capitalism? There are a lot of third world countries I can point to that have a capitalist society but are still shitholes. Can I claim that they are shitholes because of capitalism?

You absolutely can, because unlike Marxists, at least Capitalists take full responsibility than others. Some people are better capitalists than others, and so you can't expect niggers and shitskins to perform as well as superior people. Capitalism accounts for that, and takes advantage of that. The few capitalistic individuals with actual ambition can succeed without having hordes of his fellow niggers bring him down in a limited government.

The countries where capitalism has failed? filled to the brim with niggers, shitskins, and commies as well. But that does not stop capitalism. The only thing that stops capitalism, is a restrictive government that keeps it from reaching its full potential. It still stands on its own

>>128609554
>I always check on FDR and the Great Depression to see if a book is good or not. It's my litmus test.

this is a good technique. I should try this myself, it sounds effective. FDR shilling is one hell of a drug

>>128610390

so a family owns property, doesn't use the property, and the community then reclaims the property? I know it might have sucked for the family, but did it suck for the community that cannibalized the unused property?

the concept being proposed is to break the back of land monopoly. both private and state.

people are entitled to the fruits of their labor, nothing more. speculation is the root of all evil.

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>>128611141
You ar a marxist shithead with no concept of right and wrong. To you, a completely broken real state market and systematic looting might actually be a good thing, because some hedonistic fucks got to loot a house.

There's no arguing with a demented parasite like you, you'll just convince yourself any form of destruction and harm might actually be good; just get into the helicopter and convince yourself how getting thrown out of it at 500 meters above ground might actually be a good thing for society, accept your fate.

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How's this for a libertarian future, purple quadrant bros?
>2020s/30s
>USA economy is on its last legs
>Everywhere else, the collapse has already set in
>Europe has turned into a dystopian, West Bank-like hellhole riddled with concrete walls and pillboxes
>The Asian tiger economies have stalled and are threatening a sharp decline
>Africa and South America don't even bear speaking about
>A savior arises in America!
>Goes full John Galt with autistic radio speeches
>Leads Texas, Arizona, and a few other red states in Civil War II: No Step Edition
>Most of the military immediately defects to the rebels
>Federal government is defeated in under 6 months, Washington DC in its entirety is turned into glowing trinitite
>Seventeen new constitutional amendments to guarantee property, abolish conscription, BTFO regulation, etc.
>Massive heap of repealed legislation is piled up at the feet of the Statue of Liberty and burned to 3 solid days of fireworks and the sounds of recreational gunshots
>(((democracy))) abolished, the USA has grown out of its republican stage and is now an Empire
>The new Caesar declares a new policy
>'In accordance with the new fundamental principles incorporated into our Constitution...'
>'All property of US citizens, wherever they may be, is now under the protection of the US Government.'
>'If we're going to be a monopolistic providers of rights-protection, we're gonna fucking do it properly'
>All US corporations in foreign countries stop paying taxes and flat out ignore local legislation
>Foreign governments are too shell-shocked to do anything about it
>One week later, Sweden tries to nationalize a local Exxon branch in order to pay for their latest 'free sex transitions for every Congolese migrant' initiative
>Marines have the Prime Minister at gunpoint within four hours
>Nobody ever tries it again
>mfw every other country is forced to liberalize their economies to compete, or face total US economic annexation
>mfw anarcho-imperialism

Do some stickers, it's good this

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I'm the anon who said he'd give making an Ancap-themed youtube channel a try. I made a video about why universal voting is bad:

https://youtu.be/mLK697E5gFk

I know it's shit, but any feedback is welcome.

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>>128610819

>if I cant swindle people into doing free shit, it must be THEIR fault not mine!

I never implied this. not once. my point was, because they live in a society that functions around people being PAID for their work, YOU cannot expect them to just not pay those people. which is what you did in your second post. you claimed that they should just appoint someone, and because they didn't it means that their system is a failure.

>never mind that all these countries.....
>if they were so good

I never argued that they were so good, I pointed out that their failure was part of a much larger picture. the capitalist world did not sit idly by while these nations tried to function, so to say their ultimate failure had nothing to do with globalist intervention is ignorant.

>shitskins, etc

thank you for moving out from behind your smokescreen. until this point, I thought your opinions were based around your own understanding of economics. but in truth, your opinions are grounded in scapegoating. anytime you succeed? its because I'm the best. anytime you fail? its because of group X.

>>128611883
I like it, I'll get you some traffic if I can.

>>128611662

and you are a mudskin banana cooker who likes to rant on /pol/ while your whole country circles the drain.

>MUH MARXIST RUINING MUH COUNTRY

are you sure its not your inability to contribute to your GDP in a meaningful way? HUEHUEHUE GIB MONY PLS BRLBRL

>>128612732
Notice how me, caring about the land laws of my country, in the mind of a demented marxist becomes:
>likes to rant on /pol/ while your whole country circles the drain.
While you defend the real state destruction of my country.

No cure for marxist dementia but helicopter rides.

>>128612732
>MUH MARXIST RUINING MUH COUNTRY
>HUEHUEHUE GIB MONY PLS BRLBRL

How to contradict yourself in one autistic screeching

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Who /problemchild/ here?

>>128612043
>YOU cannot expect them to just not pay those people. which is what you did in your second post.
>hurr what is voluntary charity work

get fucking real, commie kike

>you claimed that they should just appoint someone, and because they didn't it means that their system is a failure.

That's exactly it was a failure! It's completely and entirely possible for people to do things voluntarily out of their goodwill. Charity, do you know of the concept? It doesn't matter what society they lived in, people can work for nothing if they give a shit about it. Evidently nobody gave enough shits. The system is a failure because some people are failures, and write shitty failure systems where they want all the fruits of labor without actually working. You cannot deny.

>their failure was part of a much larger picture. the capitalist world did not sit idly by while these nations tried to function, so to say their ultimate failure had nothing to do with globalist intervention is ignorant.
>my shitty system is failing, it's THEIR fault, not mine! WAAAAAAAHHHHH

do you have any sense of self-awareness? I'm not denying that other nations got involved as well, but that's no EXCUSE, which is what commies and liberals are so fond of.

>my system only works if I'm left alone!
>ok then do it in your private and personal life, try to organize a group to look after Marx's goddamn statue
>no fuck you I still need money, I blame the capitalist instead of myself :((((((

is exactly why commies cannot be taken seriously. No self-awareness, no responsibility, none whatsoever.

>I thought your opinions were based around your own understanding of economics.

They are. Some people are better than others, get over it. Get good or get the fuck out of their way.

>>128612938

I asked you a question, which you were quick to dodge. the people who scrapped the unused home created value for the community. that family was not living there, the home sat around doing nothing.

>B-BUT THEY MIGHT SELL IT IN X NUMBER OF YEARS!

doubt it. since this is BRL we are talking about, it was probably a cow shed anyways. And I'm pretty sure they still owned the land, so that can still be sold.

ur country is fucked not because of Marxism, but because your culture is shit m8. even if there were laws protecting that cow shed from getting looted, all that would have changed is the people who did it would be branded thieves. And in brazil, a thief is just an average citizen.

>>128612043
>your opinions are grounded in scapegoating. anytime you succeed? its because I'm the best. anytime you fail? its because of group X.

Nice strawman. Now you're denying race realism as well? That group X isn't statistically more likely to commit violence, crime, domestic abuse, family abandonment? That some people aren't more prone to cheating, lying, swindling?

You're a joke. I freely admit that capitalism has no excuses, and that it only rewards the best of the best while pruning out the worst in society. Yet you can only interpret that as a scapegoat for yet another excuse, instead of seeing it as a chance for some people to self-improve and move up in the world compared to others who choose to leave themselves behind from their own inactivity.

Communism failed, and it's because people like you exist that make it fail from just being leeches quick to blame others and arbitrary external circumstances, never themselves.

>>128613345

man, you are some kind of troll ill give you that. I think you are lost, desu senpai. if you want to just keep responding to someone without actually reading your own posts, go here:

>>>/b/

>>128613817
not an argument

even in discussion you collapse easily

>>128613255
Dave seems like an interesting guy. Not exactly /lrg/ redpilled but pretty reasonable. 8/10

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>>128598596
Be white.

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>>128613972
>even in discussion you collapse easily
You son of a bitch I thought I would die

>>128613972

I know its not an argument, its directions. you aren't keeping up with your own posts, so responding to you in turn isn't worth it. I cant expect you to derive meaning from what I write if you cant remember what you said in a previous post.

You are just responding for the sake of it.

>>128601456
This "land"should be in one's sphere of ethnic origin, Africans do not belong in Alaska.

>>128614018
He's been getting redpilled. He was on Radical Agenda recently and talks about voting and immigration changing demographics

>>128613639
>Marxist majority in the legislature for over 30 years
>crime goes up 300%
>13 years of Marxists in presidency
>no crime drop
B-B-but it wasn't marxism the problem...

>marxists make it ok to loot
>liberals make it impossible for children who murder and rape and steal to be persecuted as adults
>government disarms the population and teaches everyone that owning a gun is dangerous
B-b-b-but culture is something that just magically exists, it can't be affected by politics! It was actually all the fault of you not making enough gdp.

> And in brazil, a thief is just an average citizen.
Yes, because of people like you, who 3 posts ago was defending legal looting of homes. Who have no definition of right and wrong and live in an abstract marxist world where theft can be rationalized and even justified.

>>128614236
that's still not an argument

are you capable of constructing logical thought or are you just going to keep cowardly running away?

>>128614606
>or are you just going to keep cowardly running away?
Maybe he is LARPing as Tortsky

I'll just leave this here for the retarded Marxists, Trots and assorted cryptoCommies who are on break from their liberal arts classes, funded by loans from their detested bourgeois parents and their failed capitalist society:

https://youtu.be/okHGCz6xxiw

>>128614433
Yeah I watched that, pretty good talk. He seems like an honest guy

>>128615073
I'll LARP as the Ice Pick in Mexico then

>>128614171
Yeah that too.

>>128615073
*Trotsky

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>>128613639
You are a marxist shithead, who probably posts on /leftypol/ about how smart Stirner is and how every selfish immoral action can be justified, and then you come here and attack the abstract and immoral culture that grew in Brazil that justifies many immoral actions for self gain.

I imagine the immense levels of cognitive dissonance you must be going through.

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holy fug they actually showed up
what's good senpaitachi

>>128613255
He's not bad, from what I've gathered.
For a Jew, that is.

>>128615724
>hoppe: what is red and flies well?
>parrot: physical removal! physical removal! physical removal! SQUAWK
>good boy, you earned his cracker not wait in line for it

>>128611684
I think it will be like that PLUS Eastern Europe curb-stomping everything from London to New Delhi.

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My journey through political views

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>>128604270
Breddy gud, mayne.

>>128616617
top fucking kek, do you still have the unedited version of your pic

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>>128615724
I saw your dead thread yesterday, had to show up today.

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>tfw first country on earth that will go into atomized-separatism

who's laughing now :~)

>>128611883
The script is good enough, maybe a bit too polemical, but you definitely need a better mic.

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MUH INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

RESPECT ME

I CAN DO WHAT I WANT

ME ME ME ME ME

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>>128618374

>I CAN DO WHAT I WANT

as long as I don't initiate force against somebody*

>>128613255

Dave "Big Picture" Smith, the heart and soul of liberty. 2 episodes a week is not enough!

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Tune in for OC niggers:
https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4
https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4
https://youtu.be/JR85quKbQO4

>>128618374
That's right, Me and my family come before your state.

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>>128597593
Don't forget to post the book archives when you post this thread!
https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg
http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/

I wish you guys could understand Portuguese.Vid related is an autistic (diagnosed) Conservative-Christian-Libertarian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qN7ILSPWYE

>>128618548
You can't do her, that's sure

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>>128619066

>>128619066
if all those autistic screechers got into a fight together in one room, who would win?

>>128619340

what's up with croatians and black women?

>>128619413
Well the redneck and the anarchsit are the only ones with weapons so they'll have the upper hand unless they lose their weapons.

>>128604468
>make permits for sleeping licences more easily available
>decriminalise teaspoons
>drop the death sentence for islamophobes
It must be lit.

>>128619879
fair enough, although I suspect the leftists will just fight over redistributing the one molotov while the right will gun them down and have protection from the one helmet guy

>>128619413
The fedora one.
While the others were out partying, he studied the blade.

>>128619622
I swear I'm the only guy I know who isn't into black girls. Not because racist sruff or anything, they just don't attract me if they're too dark. Asians on the other hand...damn. But everyone here is opposite.

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>>128620638

are croatian women like that too? ;^)

>>128618374
It's in my community's interest to stick your head into a toilet bowl.
Muffin personnel.

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>>128617069
I got you senpai.

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>>128617069

Here you go.

>>128621059
>>128621138

thanks lads, this is why I would be more than happy to invite you guys into my covenant

I'll be your co-pilot when the day of the helicopter rides comes any day

>tfw playing Fallout

Remind me why the fuck AnCap is supposed to be a good idea? For both pre-war and post-war all I see is a shithole.

>>128621489
Well the most prosperous faction is new vegas
Wonder why :^)

>>128621489

because fallout depicts a world where the transition from states to Archy was via nuclear war and not a paradigm shift in the people's thinking

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sup nerds
post memes

>>128621664

anarchy*

>>128600928
What I posted in a previous occasion when someone brought the Kansas case:

>Expectations of short term effects on tax policies is not intelligent.

>Do you think companies will decide on a whim "let's settle here" without a clear compromise to maintain that tax situation? Company owners don't want to fall on a trap so in order to see the effects of lower taxes they must be sustained, CEOs should foresee that the tax situation will be kept throughout the years.

>Their sustainability goes hand in hand with how much the politicians are willing to cut spending. A government like Kansas one where they're not cutting spending enough is just "passing the bill" to the future generation by acquisition of debt. In the future, taxes will have to be raised to pay off this debt. Compromises have been shown to shift the tax to sales tax and to cut spending, but one has to doubt how propaganda-immune people in Kansas are before they end up voting democrat and fucking up everything.

>Also, it is retarded that the article is trying to measure the success of a policy of tax reduction by its ability to recollect money from taxes.

>"Libertarianism fails because you don't collect enough if you lower taxes"

>Yeah no shit.

>Now, explained why this is not really a libertarian tax plan, explained why short-term results are unrealistic, and explained why ability to pay pensions during the first years of tax cuts is going to be dwindled, let's look at the facts.

>-Since 2013, more than 10 thousand taxpayers moved from Missouri to Kansas. 6.3% increase in immigration rate

>-A jump in net income per tax return of $17,467 average

>-Bordering regions such as Johnson County KS pulled a $26,701 jump, people are literally running to Kansas to spend their money

>-Kansas outpaced every neighbor region in growth excepting Colorado.

>-Another example of neighboring regions with quite different tax policies: Indiana vs Illinois. >Check it up.

>>128621656
can confirm

House literally did nothing wrong

>>128621664
Post-war Fallout has had 200 years to adapt to AnCap thinking. I don't see society getting any better.

>>128621656

...Because they have a government?

>>128621489
>flag
jewboy if you think struggle is bad you deserve to get HAMAS'd

>>128622088
they're not AnCap though, just regular Anarchy. A lot of factions hardly practiced Capitalism, and were just more focused on killing each other instead of cooperation

>>128622088
The government with the less government power
Wonder why

>>128622088
The society has adapted to rough life.
Also, New Vegasans are only there because they want to, there's a free market of protection providers (Kings, Followers, North Vegas militia, NCR, House, Legion, Powder Gangers and local militias). Don't cry about it.

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>>128621683
Okay! Ron Paul as Prometheus.

>>128622088

they're not AnCap

it's just people trying to reestablish a government

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>>128621683

>>128621489
Because Fallout is a game published by ZeniMax, a jewish publishing company.

to anyone still in the thread
i've started a discord server completely dedicated to discussion and shitposting for /lrg/
/y3BzZM

I'm a minarchist. I think society should fund the police force and military. (also firefighters and ambulance)

I agree taxation is theft, but without taxes, I find it hard to believe anyone would willingly pay for the police and military.

I agree most public services should be privatized. But, I think emergency services and national security should be funded by everyone.

Can some anons convince of the contrary; that the state should be eliminated completely?

>>128623849
i might join you after work senpai

are you able to directly contact the guy who runs the /lrg/ website? maybe the discord can be posted there for easy reference so more people can join

>>128624467
https://mises.org/library/impossibility-limited-government-and-prospects-second-american-revolution

>>128611684
I like it, don't want D.C. dead though. Nice town with some great architecture, people should go through some removing though.

>>128624467

see the united states of america at it's foundation and now -- the tendency of the state is to expand until saturation

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>>128624503
He's a Brit, eh?
I'll try to ask in the entry posts, but no promises.

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this thread is on life support

How do you explain Universal Basic Income to idiots? They don't seem to understand that ensuring everyone a certain amount of money doesn't mean things will change. I tried explaining that you can't have this as it will devalue money and increase prices on everything.

>>128624467
I'll give you my best shot since I know and understand where you're coming from. I was pretty much the same way and felt like there was no way Ancapistan could have a strong military to protect itself, as well as some common criticism against private police. But to answer your question on the contrary, I've actually grown to become confident that in Ancapistan, private military would actually be stronger and private police would be safer alternatives. Here's why:

>anybody can form a private militia in ancapistan provided they have the voluntary funding needed to support itself
>the research, development, and production of military technology can still be done outside a state, meaning that modern firearms, tanks, planes, ships, battlecruisers, stealth bombers, fighter planes, etc. will all still be there
>competition between these private militias mean that the efficient private militias will remain while inefficient militias are given no funding to continue
>but in times of war, all the private militias can still form temporary agreements with each to cooperate against a common outsider invasion threat and neutralize them accordingly from coordinating tactics

What this means is that you only get the best of the best private militias and their tech, and if war happens they can always temporarily band together to preserve each other's mutual freedom. Strong military when needed, but little chance of tyranny and re-establishment of a state as private militias are all splintered during peacetime. Not to mention, that rogue private militias are cut funding and are left to be neutralized from the remaining private militias who still value freedom.

>>128624467
The same concept applies to private police. The police force that provides the greatest amount of security stays, shitty ones actually lose business and get fired. You're looking at greater response time, better enforcement of private law and keeping the private peace. Corrupt police forces lose funding, and are neutralized by other private police forces, maybe even private militias since they're now rogue and aren't NAP-complaint.

Hope this helps

If you're interesting in reading more into the nitty-gritty of it, there's a book that specifically address stateless national security and military called The Myth of National Defense available for free here:

https://mises.org/library/myth-national-defense-essays-theory-and-history-security-production

also available is The Private Production of Defense by Hans-Hermann Hoppe himself:

https://mises.org/library/private-production-defence

and if you really want a short quick read, here's an article:

https://mises.org/library/does-military-defense-require-large-states

I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist and I love the military. But I want to love it voluntarily out of duty, obligation, and respect, and not with someone else's gun on my head that says I must fight for them or else.

>>128603846
>I really do think there is a chance in the UK in 5-20 years time of a strong Libertarian representation in parliament
i hope you won't be full by then I'm starting to get real tired of their commie shit here

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>>128627705
>How do you explain Universal Basic Income to idiots?
pic related

>>128628955
Lol that is too simple of a way to go about it.

Still though on a more seriousness of it, I can't stand to let people I know fall for such communist lies. I rather have people better informed and thoroughly enlighten on how society actually works.

>>128629416
It's not possible to argue with leftists. You're welcome to try and find a way; but I haven't been able to.

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Can someone post a PDF of the recommended reading? Much appreciated

>>128630474
https://mises.org/ has PDFs of most of them

>>128627705
hit them in the feels, tell them that people wont get UBI on top of welfare but instead of it so poor niggers will likely get less welfare + raising prices. Also ask them what's the point in this when half of that income will be used to pay taxes when it's possible to lower taxation directely

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alright lads, I screenshotted my own answer for future reference since ancap and private military/private police are all too common questions that needs concrete answers on the fly

my question is this: if you were reading this fresh without context, does it still make sense?

I wasn't sure if I had to include the original post it was replying to or if it could stand on its own while being coherent and to save space

>>128627705
Don't ever try and explain something to people with economics first, especially leftists, because people just want free shit in the immediate moment and don't give a rats ass about money devaluation and increased prices in the long-term future. They want short-term gratification, and you MUST illustrate how damaging that is on a personal level as it impacts their life, not in an abstract manner.

You need ask them questions, and make it clear to them that UBI doesn't work on basic principles. UBI in a nutshell would either: Massively increase taxes OR cut benefits to compensate. Now, after establishing that you further probe them for illogical and inconsistent thinking (the leftist's greatest weakness). Ask them: If you were given free money, would you work as much?

They will obvious say no because there would be no need to work. Leftists tend to be lazy fucks. Ask further, "If you don't work as much, how will there be enough tax revenue to sustain UBI?"

They might say something like "Well our benefits and welfare is cut so that should be fine." Which can be countered easily by saying "Ah, but now you're not just supporting sick people, you're giving money to the healthy as well. There are naturally more healthy working people than unhealthy sick people, meaning you will have to give more money than is earned. How can you sustain the system if you're consuming more than creating?"

They know they can't and must concede. After inevitable ad-hominems, they will lose their shit, and leave, meaning you've won.

>>128631087
there's also the fact that it makes people dependent on the government which is bad imo but leftists usually aren't sensible to that kind of arguments

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>>128630474
i gotchu senpai

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tfw I am progressive but still right wing libertarian

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Who's your favorite Senator and why is it Rand Paul?

>>128633050
Literally Dude weed teir.

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>>128628114
>>128628174
I appreciate the well thought out responses. You guys have some strong arguments

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Have any of you guys read any books lately? I finished Reactionary Liberty and am now beginning Thomas Woods's "Politically Incorrect Guide to American History". I thought Taylor's book was awesome, save for quite a few and often annoying spelling or typographic mistakes (you can see when he was writing at 3am after three hours of reading Hoppe and the Right Stuff) but overall I liked it. In the end he says the time for arguments is over and praises both Francisco Franco (pbuh) and Pinochet (pbuh) for murdering communists in retaliation for what they did to Spain and Chile. He then says we libertarians must ally ourselves with traditionalists and monarchists in order to stop the spread of Marxism, as well as advocacy for anti-egalitarianism and anti-democracy. And that we should use the state to further our cause and essentially play the game by the Left's rules instead of trying to reason with them (r-selected rabbits cannot be influenced with K-selected wolves reasoning).

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>>128621489
>your ideology is bad
>this video game told me so

>>128637154
I just realized you are one person, anon. Great article btw.

>>128637154
>>128637460
thanks m8, anytime

would be more than happy to answer any more questions you might have, I'm all ears

>>128637696
Okay, here's one for you

I think excess regulations hurt the economy, by acting as a barrier of entry into the market. The large corporations can deal with regulations, but the small and medium sized businesses often cannot compete in market with high regulations.

Given this drawback, I think some regulations are beneficial - particularly environmental ones. I am not a climate change alarmist, but I think it is important that the environment is protected (for example; in cases of over mining, over logging, over fishing, etc.)

In the absence of a state, what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees? Or catching all the fish in the ocean?

How can you enforce rules and regulations on how a business can operate, without a centralized government creating laws?

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>>128603053
Now this is classic. I've reappropriated your image, I know you won't mind.

>>128619396
Does anyone have this image in a not shit-tier resolution so the fine print can be read? Also, red-on-black text is fucking cancer, please stop.

I personally think all governments and corporations are obligated to keep a high standard of transparency so the people can best make informed choices

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>>128639772
>In the absence of a state, what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees? Or catching all the fish in the ocean?

That is a good question, and I think in many ways the Anarcho-Capitalist environmental perspective is rather unappealing to most people because of its extremely blunt nature. I do not mean to be rude when I say this, but in asking:

>what would stop a large company from, for example, logging all the trees or catching all the fish in the ocean?

the answer is quite simple. What would stop a corporation from ruining their own livelihood? Why, themselves of course.

Contrary to what most environmentalists generally conspire, good business are actually most concerned with the environment rather than to be reckless with it. Logging companies cannot afford to cut all the trees, so they must log responsibility and replant trees in the most stable and healthy manner to keep themselves in business. Likewise, overfishing means no more fish to continue their business. It is wholly unreasonable to assume that a business would be so self-destructive, lacking foresight to continue basic enterprise by sabotaging themselves. Needless to say, if a business was indeed so foolish, then that business would not last very long without state-sponsored subsidies and buyouts to keep its shitty destructive business practices afloat.

This does not mean of course, that there cannot be some kind of mutual voluntary agreement, or contract, between businesses as an independent green initiate on their own. It feels good to help the environment, and some business may sacrifice pure efficiency in order to be more environmentally-friendly. A state is not needed to enforce human goodwill. It's certainly a hit among consumers to know that the product they're buying is eco-friendly anyways, the entire organic food market relies on it!

Basically, waste is waste. Good businesses are already environmentally clean and concerned. No state needed.

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You assert that taxation is theft, but profit in wage-labour isn't in your mind?

You assert that taxation is theft, but what about profit? Profit in wage-labour relations is the taking of the surplus value of the worker by the 'Capitalist', or boss.
It's the same principle applied to different bodies. Government takes your tax money and the 'Capitalist' takes your surplus value as profit. One upsets you yet the other does not.

>>128642943
Profit is voluntary. If you don't want to work for 'capitalists', go live in the wild and make your own food.

>>128642943
Because we get payed back in the form of shit we can use

>>128642943
and then there's THIS potatonigger

don't you have a left-liberalism to make and then get shit on for being retarded?

you're not even being original anymore, you're literally copypasting your posts and posting the same damn picture of the FAT loser NEET who has never WORKED a JOB in his life

>>128643216
Why not repost the same argument? It's easier than writing it all up again.

>>128643141
>Voluntary
Nigger, no it's not. You either do it or you die. Not much of a choice.

>>128643148
>In the form of shit we can use
Oh yeah, because you can't use the roads, schools, emergency services and courts that the government runs, right?

>>128643141
Living under a state is voluntary as well unless that state forbids immigration. This means taxes aren't theft either.

>>128643749
Because sometimes the government is fucking incompetent. Look at Detroit's infrastructure

>>128643749
oh I'll repost the same argument alright, you spammy potatonigger

>You either do it or you die.

False. you can be homeless and beg for food. Nobody is forcing you to work. You can choose a shitty life, that's your choice. Luxury is luxury comrade, you must resist bourgeois temptations like anything remotely comfortable!

t. lenin in his premium ROLLS ROYCE car

>>128644067
>Detroit is representative of all government infrastructure projects ever
Let's just forget about extreme poverty in Detroit, the toxic welfare-dependent culture and rising crime rates....

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>>128640173
I gotchu senpai

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>>128644837
well as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions

you can't go to hell if there's no road to begin with so we win

>>128643749
>You either do it or you die.
False. (Under anarcho-capitalism) you are free to form a worker's group where you receive all the value of your labour, or to go homestead uninhabited land and live off it.

>>128643850
Living under a state is voluntary as well unless that state forbids immigration.
False. You require the state's permission to emigrate in all cases; and even if you did not there is no habitable land not under the jurisdiction of a state (since the government can claim to 'own' swathes of land that have never even been set foot on).

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>>128598505
Wait, if every piece of land in the nation is privately owned, that means you'd have to pay a toll every time you wish to leave your property, and then pay a toll to enter the next strip of land and so on and so forth

>>128647619
>implying

or your covenant has agreements with other covenants for free travel in order to attract easy flow of workers. Piss them them off though, and you could be charged a penalty fine or just put on a shitlist and be given restricted access

>>128642671
I agree with you, a business would naturally want to act in a sustainable way to preserve their livelihood. But what about a case where individuals merely wanted to make as much money in a short amount of time possible.

Without fishing agencies regulating the amount of fish that could be caught, any man with a boat and a net could start fishing and making money. An individual could be using it as a stepping stone to create capital to start another business venture, or just as a scheme to "get rich quick"

This is just a hypothetical, but it's true with other examples that pertain to the allocation of resources. I live in an oil province in Canada, and after the second world war, many Europeans came to Alberta for the "oil rush". There was very relaxed regulations at that time, and lots of environmental problems had occurred as a result. Lots of rivers and lakes were polluted, agricultural land was destroyed, etc..

Now, regretfully, the regulations have gone to the other extreme, being very stringent. There is only a handful of companies who work in the oil business here, because of the very strict rules. It has stifled the oil market in Alberta, but there hasn't been any environmental disasters, so at the very least, the rules seem to have that advantage

Would this happen organically if there wasn't a government creating these rules? I want to believe that the companies would self govern, but I think there is a number of sociopaths who would say "Fuck the environment" and drill as much oil as possible without concern for the land.

I like your idea of a "mutual voluntary agreement", but without penalties enforced for breaking the agreement, it seems ineffective. This brings it back to my original problem with Ancapistan, how can penalties be enforced, without some centralized agreement or understanding of common rules.

>>128647967
And why in God's name would I want that?

So basically you want a system where if I have an argument with my neighbour it could mean I couldn't get to work the next day?

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>>128611684
>>Goes full John Galt with autistic radio speeches

Excited for this desu

>>128648701
>hurr why can't I be a jackass without consequences?

that's what you get for being a shitty neighbor

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>>128649128
>Be me
>In Ancapistan
>Get drunk with neighbours at a BBQ
>Suddenly, an argument breaks out between me and another neighbour
>The neighbour storms home saying "You'll pay for this"
>The next day
>Have to go to work
>Suddenly see sign saying "Anon not allowed to pass through here"
>Have to pay $50 to go through my other nextd door neighbour's property
>Since wages have been hideously depressed because Corporate owners aren't actually decent people after all, I can't pay the toll
>Lose job as a result
>Die due to a lack of government social safety net

>>128650133
I've literally never gotten into a drunk argument with anyone so bad that they'd do that to me.

Tough shit. Suck it up and learn how to handle your booze.

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>>128650133
>Black roads = owned by companies/city
>Surrounded by privately owned houses

>>128650745
An Ancap talking about something being unrealistic.
Your entire ideology is unrealistic.

D.C. is a great place to live on days like these, every 30 mins a helicopter comes flying over my house and I get a little bit excited.

>>128651510
not an argument

>>128648512
I understand your concern and it is regretfully valid. It is true that some people may act irrationally and irresponsibility, but by their own very nature it doesn't last very long. That's not to say that the consequences of their actions won't be damaging for quite some time as you've said, but you must keep in mind that historically oil rushes were on government property and thus, these oil operations could just assume that it's the government responsibility and take no caution. Why bother, when the polluted rivers and lakes and the government's problem, not theirs?

This is not the case in Ancapistan. There is no federal land, meaning these oil workers are entirely responsible for their actions. Responsibility mind you, which entails consequences, and these consequences may not have to be federally-enforced to occur. Rivers and lakes could be someone else's private property, meaning they would take action against recklessness and negligence in private courts. Penalties in the local area could mean getting blacklisted, ostracized, or even the product of your business boycotted/outright declined from being purchased in concerned markets out of protest. A government is not needed to inflict consequence, especially on a local level.

In addition, other more safe-practicing businesses in the area naturally have an incentive to keep things as clean as possible for their own mutual use in the future. Environmental abuse does not occur in a void, and certainly does not remain undetected for long with modern technologies. These "mutual voluntary agreements" can go both ways, and again punishment can still be inflicted if broken. The abusers' business given bad reputation, or just not even recognized as legitimate anymore; there's an infinite amount of creative means to send a signal that a behavior is not tolerated so freely by the people around the area who actually live and work there.

The "fuck the environment" guys still get into trouble.

>>128648512
In a sense, it is the good businesses that oversee the market now to keep communication with each other for best practices and to weed out poor uncooperative businesses by non-violent means. They have mutual, voluntary gain that way instead of a quick get-rich scheme committed to nothing in the short term. With government out the way, the power gap left is still being occupied something more local and more decisive with their action instead of lethargic bureaucracy.

So to really address your main concern of "how can penalties be enforced, without some centralized agreement or understanding of common rules." is that penalties are still enforced, just not centrally but on a more straightforward local level. No nonsense. There can agreement and understanding of common rules that vary depending on who owns the property, but you don't reinvent the wheel. Waste is waste, it is dirty, unclean, bad for product, people, and ultimately just bad for profit unlike what environmental proclaim.

People will keep an eye out for environmental abuse, blow whistles, maybe even have a private reward/bounty for it paid for by the good-practicing businesses. Crime just does not pay, and short-term abusers like what you described are given just as much technical freedom to act like that, as much as other long-term businesses to act accordingly and administrate local penalties to ensure a few bad apples don't permanently spoil the environmental bunch.

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Can't have """"""""terrorist attacks""""""""" if there are no roads.

>>128650133
that seems perfectly reasonable desu, cunts should be given consequences if they can't control themselves

you're literally advocating a degenerate irresponsible society

also

>Since wages have been hideously depressed because Corporate owners aren't actually decent people after all, I can't pay the toll
>being unskilled and shit with your money like drinking if you're a poorfag instead of saving up to get a better job

you deserve EVERYTHING that happens

>>128654812
No, I'm advocating a society like we have now where I don't have to fucking plan my entire life around whether my next door neighbour likes me this week or not.

>He thinks companies would pay high wages in an Anarcho-Capitalist system
Kek

>>128655232
>I'm advocating a society like we have now where I don't have to fucking plan my entire life around whether my next door neighbour likes me this week or not.

so you want society where people can be insufferable asshats without consequence? waow imagin mai shock

and

>company doesn't pay high enough wage
>people don't work for them and go somewhere else to company that does pay high

i just realized you probably don't have an emergency fund too if sudden expenses catch you off-guard. baka

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*Slow Clap

>>128655645
>Company A offers to pay you $3 per hour for your services
>Company B offers to pay you $4.50 for your services

Oh, it's a miracle! Praise the market! Thank God that pesky minimum wage that guaranteed at least $8 is gone now. Yes, Mr. Goldstein is happy.

>>128656345
Bottom left is more like
> Give me your lawn
> You don't have a lawn
> Lawns are theft
> Kicking me off your lawn is literal slavery
Greens don't share, they're the least charitable cunts around.

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>>128621489
Why the fuck are people responding to this retarded jew who think a video game is real life.

You have dumbass and then you have this guy.

>>128656670
>implying I would still work for that low

have some self-respect potatonigger, not everybody is willing to work for $4.50 because they're that useless in the working world

You mentioned company A and B, but not C, D, E, F, or G, or all the other letters of not just the Latin alphabetic, but maybe even Cyrillic as well. if you're good enough you can more opportunities than just two shitty companies all competing against each other! Truly capitalism is exploitation, comrade!

>>128644642
>Have no government
>Who controls the borders?


Honestly Libertarianism is the most retarded ideology

>>128659426
Doesn't matter if you have open borders when people actually have to work to get money and a house.

>>128606835
i did, it's counted as spam if i post the full url.

>>128659667
Yes, it does matter. Non-whites might be dumber than whites, but not to the point where they're unable to survive and reproduce without government handouts.

>>128660421
That's totally fine. I'm just saying there's a barrier to entry in these theoretical communities. If a nigger wants to go live there and he produces enough value and makes enough money to do so, I have no problem with it.

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>>128650133
>be you
>be gladly indoctrinated by the state on keynesian stupidity
>make dumb statements like "wages are depressed"
>don't understand what currency is in a free society
>don't understand anything of the austrian school of economics
>don't understand subjective value theory
>make up strawman shit that can be easily refuted by literally just telling other people what a prick this neighbour is and make a deal to get together and treat this neighbour in the same way as he treats you.

Leftists will always be morons.

>>128601456
>Not being a right wing georgist

The Heathian goal is to have cities and large land areas owned by single private corporations, which would own and rent out the land and housing over the area, and provide all conceivable "public services": police, fire, roads, courts, etc., out of the voluntarily-paid rent. Heathianism is Henry Georgism stood on its head; like George, Heath and MacCallum would provide for all public services out of rent; but unlike George, the rent would be collected, and the land owned, by private corporate landlords rather than by the government, and the payment therefore voluntary rather than coercive. The Heathian 'proprietary community' is, of course, in stark contrast to the scruffy egalitarian commune dreamed of by anarchists of the Left.

-Rothbard, review of Spencer heath.

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>>128598596
(((elite))) schools

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>>128597593
here guys I made this for you

>>128621059
>Melting Pot of Friendship
Too bad he's now on break since last month.

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kek look at this commie faggot I found in the Youtube comments for a DPRK documentary. He unironically consumes days worth of anime and videogames and still preaches against the "horrors" of capitalism. When will these upper middle class kids stop projecting?

>>128662243
jesus christ what a cuck ideologically and physically

ANTIFA just wants to know why did yeins not do anything as we fought the cop ??

pdx green.antifa

>>128654197
>>128654462
It is unfortunate that some people try to abuse the system for a quick dollar, but there will always be people like that in in any political system. As long as disincentives are put in place and penalties can be enforced, then I have no problems against "Ancapistan".

Thanks for the write up, you make some interesting points. Do you have any other book recommendations around this topic?

>>128654462
I really like the idea you wrote about reward/incentives for good-practicing businesses. I think that would be a great way to help businesses act environmentally minded. There are many ways it could be achieved: A private association could offer money to businesses who met certain environmental standards. Also, consumers would likely chose to purchase goods from companies who met these environmental standards. It would make it beneficial for a company to meet the criteria, for a competitive advantage in the marketplace.

There's an old biblical story about how there are 2 different ways to get a donkey to move - you can whip it, or carry a carrot in front of it's face (paraphrasing). I think the non-violent means works better in a sociological sense.

Of course penalties should be enforced, but society should organize itself in a way that it rewards good business practices.

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How accurate is this /pol/?

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>>128597593
GODDAMN GUBMINT

STAY AWAY FROM MY GUNS
STAY AWAY FROM MY WEED
STAY OUT OF MY WALLET
STAY OUT OF MY SEX

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>128660873
Thanks bro.

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>>128670166
Too much

>>128631336
This also applies to stuff like minimum wage, free healthcare, free education, etc.

>>128633050
dangerously close to needing a big, fat helping of helicopter rides there, cowboy.

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>>128671363
sure thing friendo I have a bunch of others

>>128606642
Is it a dot com?

Are there any counterarguments when a leftist mentions about environmental issues? I saw a couple left-wing people mentioning that deregulating the economy will increase climate change.

>>128674640
See
>>128642671
>>128648512
>>128654197
>>128654462

>>128674640
>1st world countries are the most successful and have the highest quality of healthcare, food, infrastructure
>3rd world countries are the least successful and they have shitty pollution, healthcare water, food, environment, etc..
>thus 1st world free markets strive for greener solutions organically (ba dum tss) anyway

tl;dr - free market > fairy tale bullshit.

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Evergreen college is under militant Liberal control.

Right-Wing Militia liberation offensive when, my dudes?

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dank

how long will it take for the US to be libertarian again?

>>128615470
you dont realise how money works

>>128618548
implying private property isnt sustained by force

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>>128628114
>but in times of war, all the private militias can still form temporary agreements with each to cooperate against a common outsider invasion threat and neutralize them accordingly from coordinating tactics
TOP KEK
>mfw ancaps use the human nature argument againts us commies but they are oblivious to their own shit

>>128665150
>>128667662
That's all precisely right, and I personally can say no more about the topic. You've said it all lad

I wish there were more books exclusively about this but this is kind of buried within state criticism and economical principles. I would just refer to general reading guides like >>128631522 and of course the one on the pastebin. The one in the /lrg/ website might be a bit easier to navigate though but they should have similar recommendations:

http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/

Cheers.

>>128681316
>ancaps use the human nature argument againts us commies
>they are oblivious to their own shit

what are you talking about? this is all completely voluntary associations of course. The private militias that temporarily band together can eliminate a hostile outside threat in order to secure their own individual freedom. Nobody is forcing them to do this, but obviously if you have common goals and a clear enemy it's much easier to cooperate with people.

The private militias that don't defend freedom and betray ancapistan, well, not only would they lose funding and local support but they are just then rogue and can be eliminated in a life-or-death scenario. There's no forcing them, but the consequences of their actions has well, consequences. Very deadly ones when the times get really desperate, absolutely.

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>>128683699
I'll dig in. Thanks

>>128684197
anytime canadabro

>>128618374
>without regard for family...
Okay riddle me this,
Why do most Marxist want to destroy the idea of the traditional family unit?
I agree in the sense that we humans work best in packs/clans. But we are not as a some ant in a hive mind. Of course, we should have loyalty to our family and nation. But let me ask you this what comes first for a man? His family or his nation, better yet the clan that loves and truly knows you, or the larger unfeeling hive that views you as an extension of it?

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>>128597593
Am I late to the party?

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>>128688295
no you're just in time my friend

>>128604079
>Marx's influence on Jefferson
Karl Marx was born in 1818, Jefferson died in 1826. Are you trying to tell me that Karl Marx had already developed his ideas on communism and relayed and persuaded Jefferson with them before he was even 10 years old?

>>128607963
Damn Chester Arthur?
I need a redpill on him

>>128685979
Family first. This is our true biology - blood is thicker than water

>Strong individuals create strong families
>Strong families create strong communities
>Strong communities create strong societies

>>128613255
Listening to it now. Best AnCap show you're gonna find.

>>128688343
If only the rattlesnake was the national animal of the US instead of the bald eagle... we would've been meme-tier Snekistan by now.

>>128690016
it's funny how the snake was considered the bad guy in the bible...or was he

I don't think he forced eve to take a bite of that apple

>>128690232
Eve broke the NAP by eating the apple, so she and Adam had to be physically removed, so to speak.

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>>128690601
so you're telling me, that genesis was about two people breaking the NAP by consuming an unauthorized product in someone else's private property (the garden of eden)?

>>128690847
wtf I hate Adam and Eve now

>>128690847
Pretty much. The whole Satan v. God thing is just an ongoing property dispute gone wild.

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you know in all seriousness after having thought about it, if the apple was a welfare check then eve could really be a single mother accepting stolen goods she was never supposed to have taken if she was responsible for goddamn once

literally right there in the bible we see the bullshit of socialism

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I can't believe NatSoc loves this guy so much. Every time he opens his mouth I cringe

>>128692982
I agree, he's such a poser

doesn't even seem to take his conviction seriously if he's blabbing nonsense like that