Nazigermanies UFO Program

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Intredasting

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>>128589096
I know this is an /x/ tier thread, but I still wish they would thaw up their UFOs in Antarctica and come back to save us from the plague of shitskins.

ADOLF, WHY HAVE YOU LEFT US?!?

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http://www.luft46.com/lippisch/lip13a.html
> Dr. Alexander Lippisch designed this ramjet powered interceptor in late 1944, much of the research coming from his work on the DM-1 test glider (see below). The wings were sharply swept back at 60 degrees, and there was a single large fin and rudder in which the cockpit was located. The ramjet was fed by a circular intake that protruded from the nose, and exhausted beneath the vertical fin at the rear. Research in the DVL high-speed windtunnel indicated that the P.13a had outstanding stability up to the maximum tested speed of Mach 2.6, and no unfavorable characteristics in the subsonic range. A liquid fueled rocket motor was planned for takeoff and to get the aircraft to ramjet operating speed.Since fuel was in short supply by this stage in the war, powdered coal was to be used in the ramjet.
>Max. Speed: 1650 km/h (1025 mph)

pic related is page 91 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view


>>128589494
>ADOLF, WHY HAVE YOU LEFT US?!?
they first need people to get redpilled and see what the kikes are doing to us. if they come now they will just be seen as oppressors and evil nazi racists and would have to fight the people they want to save. wether nazis are still around or not the best course of action is handing out redpills

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>>128589998
the pic

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Oh Look its this bullshit again.

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This thread is now /x/
Something about die glocke
>The so called Bell itself is another aspect of history shrouded in disinformation. I maintain on another of my websites that this was a spherical Tokamak style particle accelerator possibly used to transmute Thorium 232 into Uranium 233 for the Nazi Atomic weapons program. When Argentina created it's own nuclear program in 1947, the first laboratory was established at an Argentine air base in Cordoba. This was targeted by a clandestine British bomb attack. This attack forced the nuclear project to relocate to remote Lake Nahuel Huapei, close to the Nazi expatriate town of Barriloche. The Bell device destroyed at Cordoba was the same device offloaded from the Ju 390 at El Palomar used by Dr Ronald Richter's laboratory. Information that the Bell was a particle accelerator comes in part from the 1956 job application by Dr Ronald Richter to work for the US Air Force. A job application which apparently was so sensitive that it remained classified by America's USAF & NSA until 1999.

This flight to Argentina challenges historians who argue there was only ever one Ju 390 flying. The first Ju 390 aircraft was left derelict at Dassau airfield in November 1944 whilst a second aircraft continued to be flown, mentioned, or sighted by several individuals during 1945.

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>>128590264
>>128589965
>>128589385
while those crafts indeed are pretty advanced already, those arent the ones im talking about

>>128590781
https://sites.google.com/site/junkersju390/home
source

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some day, you will hear about us, again, our fire still burns

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pic related page 88 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view
note how it states some engines around just breaking down as reported with many UFO sightings that all kinds of technology just stop working

>>128590781
there is still the stuff with the kecksburg acorn looking almost exactly like the glocke though.

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>>128591526
>some random UFO in 1957
>must be Nazis from Antarctica

where is the connection retard?

and no assumptions are not proof.

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>>128591635
also
>OP gets BTFO in every thread
>always comes back shilling his theory that got no proofs and is made out of easily debunked stuff

was it autism?

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>>128591635
the connection is at the POW who wittnessed the same phenomenom in germany during WW2. but of course you wouldnt realize that achmed

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>>128592205
and where is the proof said UFO was manned by Nazis?

oh right there is none and you pulled it all out of your ass.

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hehe moved to /bant/

you guys looking for some /x/pills?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb18kkVlRh4

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>>128592610
the document was never intended to say that those were nazis, but to show that the nazis back then worked on that same technology which was later seen in the US. wether those were nazis or not is discussable however this document states that these UFOs are not from the US
page 32 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view

>>128593329
Everyone and their moms know the US had UFO technology in 1947 thanks to stupid ayy lmaos crash landing in roswell.

>but muh Nazi technology
they couldn't even build proper working Tiger tanks.

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>>128593653
rosswell was more likely nazis than aliens. it probably was just easier to explain there were aliens crashed than nazis in SS uniforms 2 years after the nazis were "completely destroyed"

>>128594051
a collage of faked photographs is not considered proof

and yes Roswell was Aliens.
all the Roswell Proof says it aliens.

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It would be nice to think that there are NS German hidden bases and towns in South America and Antarctica and such. All this time working on super science to retake Germany as they increase their population.

>>128594654
yea apparently they sit there in their frozen shithole eating ice and penguin shit.

If the Nazi UFOs were real they would have used them to Win WW2, but they didn't and that because it didn't exist.

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gives one some sense of hope

>>128594954
was meant to >>128594654

>>128594954
Adamski literally claimed to have had contact with Aliens from Mars and Venus.

His pictures are fake and his storys were bullshit.

>>128594051
So the nazi/german scientist's suddenly forgot all about these saucers, after they were claimed by both USA and USSR?

>>128594952

They could do it if they set up secret bases in South America and had 70 years to advance designs of u-boats and flying aircraft. Maybe they have decided to wait until their scientists figure out how to send messages back in time so they can't lose this time.

>>128595371
this sounds absolutely retarded

so where are they hiding?
is it antarctica?
is it the hollow earth?
is it the moon?

where are those Nazis in their UFOs?
why didn't they use the Haunebus to safe the Führer?
Why didn't they use Haunebus to Kill Stalin and his Generals?

why can't conpiracy retards never get their storys straight?

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>>128595296
maybe they didnt get those scientist who worked on those project. quite a lot made it to argentina.
Mengele for example fled to brazil and continued his research there apparently. the village in which he took cover has the highest birthrate of twins in the world, and now look how they all look (pic related)

an anon mentioned he read that german scientists from project paperclip were still communicating with each other and people outside the country.in argentina where many nazis fled to is San Carlos de Bariloche. this place had a lot of germans and even a plastic surgery clinic which could be used to distort peoples appearence so they arent tracked down easily and can lead a normal live. georg anton pöch is rumord to be hitlers new personality.
the nazis from paperclip that were put into secret agencies could have covered for both, the communication, and the creation of new personalities.

maybe the scientist just stayed loyal to germany and didnt spit out the secrets and played dumb and just fed the authorities some breadcrumps.

adolf... get the vimanas.

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>>128595876
ah yes so Mengele flew with a Haunebu to argentina to get his face fixed, then he made a lot of twins.
then he sat into his haunebu and flew into the hollow earth to throw a party with the Lizard People

this is what retards believe nowadays?

hell even Aliens make more sense than this bullshit.

>>128595645

In South America would be my guess. Their bases would be mostly underground but their citizens would either live in small self sufficient villages or more likely regular villages and towns off the beaten trail.

They probably didn't have working UFOs in numbers or refinement to do any good for the war effort, but they could have kept working at it until they have come up with the super advanced kinds reported over the decades.

Who is to say they didn't save the Fuhrer.

Jesus when talking about the fled Nazis, it sounds like you are talking about Fallout's Enclave.

>>128596249
you act like it isnt an accepted fact that mengele fled to a brazillian village which (((coincidently))) has the highest rate of twinbirths in the world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/4307262/Nazi-angel-of-death-Josef-Mengele-created-twin-town-in-Brazil.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604223/Inside-Brazils-Twin-Land-C-ndido-God-Nazi-experiment.html

>>128596401
but according to the OP they had an entire Fleet of Haunebus, Glocken and Vrils.

why was the 3rd Reich not putting all ressources in this Wunderwaffe instead of shit like V1 & V2 and Königstigers?
answer: because they never had that technology and never had any flying Saucers.

>>128596609
but did he use a Haunebu to get there?

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>>128596981
where did i say they had an entire fleet? they had some, but not enough to win an entire war and supress multiple opposing military forces all around the world.
also then what about the news article and the FBI documents of wittnessreports saying otherwise.

by the way its pretty obviously you are just shilling by creating strawmen all the time, but you keep bumping the thread and cause some discussion so i dont even mind

>>128597570
thanks for the info so far. so if the nazis still exists what is their plan and where do they get food supplies?

>>128597570
Who cares about the other poster. There isn't enough evidence for any proof of this stuff but I'm interested in hearing what people have to say about it.

They have the shit arguments because they take anything anyone says as literal fact where that isn't what anyone was doing.

>>128597570

Where'd this come from, this picture? Also how much is a house in Bariloche. Should I start learning Spanish.

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>>128597570
>20+ available
>not enough to kill Soviet High command

Neger bitte

>also then what about the news article and the FBI documents of wittnessreports saying otherwise.
So where did they confirm Nazis in Haunebus exactly?

>by the way its pretty obviously you are just shilling
I'm not shilling I'm laughing about your retarded ass and debunk your retarded bullshit with every post.

if someone here is a shill then it is you because you keep posting the same copypasta replys and spam the board for fucking months with it pretending its all Facts.

>"oh please believe my retarded conspiracy that I pulled out of my ass"
>"look at these pictures of UFOs, there is Nazis 100% inside but no proofs sry"

and of course
>lets jus wait til all are redpilled so based nazis from hollow earth come and rescue us from Merkel

LOL

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>>128597993
well, from how i see it they either live in argentina where they could sustain themselves like everyone else, or inside the hollow earth where according to the legends already exists some advanced civilization which might have aided the nazis.

Pic related are instructions on how to get to Agartha/Hollowearth via Submarine and were released by the KGB (at least all sources claim so and i didnt find any sources debunking any of it)

This guy (Wilhelm Landig) was in the SS and talks about the warfare in antarctica. Among other stuff he talks about a "nuketest" where they detonated a nuke in the air, but in reality it was a nuclear attack on the nazibase in Antarctica. He only let the video get oublished after his death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA23BVO79WY
https://archive.org/stream/InterviewWithMr.WilhelmLandig/Interview%20with%20Mr.%20Wilhelm%20Landig_djvu.txt
A transscipt of the interview for the non-german anons

Admiral Byrd, who led multiple expeditions to Antarctica including Operation Highjump and deepfreeze and talks about a land "as big as the United States, never seen by a human being before on the other side of the southpole". I will post pictures which supposedly are maps of Agartha down the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A

maybe they are gone/dead already who knows

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>>128590897

those women
>omg

btw im involved with xenos too, I hope the vril ladies are able to get away from this place again, I hear that life on earth these last 80 years has not been good to them

>>128598157

Wouldn't they have to find the high command? And what if they were shot down, then the Soviets would have gotten UFO technology. And what is the point of even taking out the high command when they only had these saucers at war's end, assuming the UFOs were fully worked out.

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>>128598391
>>128597993
There are cultures from all around the world talking of blonde/red haired, blue eyed people with white skin that came over the sea and brought civilization, including the sumerians. Where did those come from when the sumerians where the first, and why are the people discribed always the same if they were just made up?
The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki. The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own. The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created the first civilization and ruled in the early time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc.
The nordic gods, thor, odin, all blond and blue eyed, and (((coincidently))) asgard is on a map that supposedly shows the inner part of the earth
Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out something (((they))) absolutely fear which is the reason (((they))) try to destroy whites so furiously, more than any other ethnicities.
Later on Hitler went to antarctica, created New Swabia and again a lot of cultures speak about a realm beneath the earth, like shangri la for example, and civilization is said to exist there as well.
Did Hitler find out that the whites, or at least those people who spreaded knowledge (which may have nothing to do with whites today) came from the inner earth, the biblical paradise, and from there spread their knowledge with others. Is this why (((they))) want to get rid completely of the white people?
Now these whites maybe have nothing to do with the whites of today, they could be the fallen angels of the bible, the annunaki of the Sumerians or the gods of the atztecs, but finding out where those came from would be devastating for (((their))) narrative

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>>128597993
>>128598470
Another interesting thing is that "Paradise" in the bible originally came from the word meaning "walled enclosure" which would be pretty much fitting to the inner earth.
the hopi indians, also have the swastika. and their legends involve humanity coming from out of a hole on earth, and during the end of the 4th world/cycle (i think it was the 4th) when the flood hit (whch probably was the same the bible mentioned as well as many others cultures) other people came out of the earth, the ant-friends or ant people, brought them underground and ensured their survival until the earth above is habitable again. further more. further more the word "anu" means for the hopi indians "ant" and naki "friend" while the sumerian gods were called anunaki, so probably those were the same.
however from what i found the description of the ant people doesnt really fit, they seem humanoid but not human. but maybe there are multiple races living in hollow earth living peacefully there together. sumerians and hopi also used the swastika

>>128598411
if they managed to build 20+ of them then it wouldn't have been a a problem to use them to win the war.

How hard could it be to just zip over moscow and drop some firebombs on the Kreml?

How hard would it have been to zap over to Washington and Firebomb the White House?

How Hard would it have been with a Haunebu to zap over to London and firebomb churchills fat ass?

If Nazis were desperate enough for the Volkssturm but not desperate enough to do this, this can only mean the Nazi UFOs never even existed.

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>>128594051
>>128594600
>>128593653
The problem as usual is its the jew divide and conquer strategy. Its neither one or the other, but both at the same time.

roswell was grey ayylamos, that wasnt for the americans, that was a gift to the shadow government and they were expecting it

another kind of ayylamos were helping the germans, including those vril women

sheer luck is all that stopped the nazis from winning the war - a couple manufacturing plants got bombed by accident and that happened to be where they was building the parts for the saucers and bells.

a couple more months of that and allied airpower over europe would have ground to a halt with alot of planes and bombers just falling out of the sky

>>128598711
>>128598930

they didnt use them properly and there werent as many of them as you'd think

production was set to increase when it got smashed

it was too little too late, but the knowledge was sound - they had it working just fine and were starting to go into refinement phase

>>128598930
oh look more bullshit without sources or any kind of proof.

the biggest secret is that the US or the Deep State that controls the US has figured out Free Energy and whatever Tesla was working on.
there is even proof for that.

everything else is disinfo bullshit.

>>128598711

How would that win the war. It's not like if Churchill and them all died the armies would just shrug and leave Europe.

Big meme which morons think is true. The real shit was their rocket program.

>>128599383
Show of Power.

If you have it, use it.

We did use the V2 because we had it and because it was actually existing, unlike wannabe flying saucers.

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>>128598122
allegedly recovered from allied forces, but i wasnt able to find a definite source. however the adamski photograph matches the Haunebu II plan at least

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We postin' retarded Nazi designs?

>>128599754
>has energybeam weapon
>can't even liberate Stalingrad
>can't zip over and grill churchill

Shit tier as it can get.

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Coal-powered fighter

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by the way, i made a discord for people interested in this
https://discord.me/anufor
Password: /pol/isalwaysright
everyone who doesnt spam around is welcome.

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i do believe the UFO tech is ancient technology. for example the hinuds have something in their legends called "virmana" which essentially is a flying saucer, and at times even a flying castle or city even. now what could that principle be? the tibetians have legends about them lifting heavy rocks with the help of music, singing and sound.
http://www.rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm
>The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high.
Some accounts tell that the pyramids were build in a similar fashion. Now i agree this sounds pretty ridiculous, but then there is this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRA7m1KEGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K8zs-KSitc
indeed it sounds like it underlies another principle than the story of the tibetians, but there were stories about levitating stuff with sound, and now we can actually do that. so maybe there is more to the legends than we care to believe. and there are quite a few legends that turned out to be real or at least have
Interestingly this plan of the Vril Saucer has under number 1 mentioned "glocke" which translates to "bell". is this what makes the Saucer fly?
They fly either through this, or manipulating the magnetic field i believe.
in general i believe a lot of that (ancient) alien stuff comes only from thinking we are able to accomplish much less than we are actually capable of

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>>128601637
yes the nazis were humming inside the haunbu and made it fly to antarctica in the hollow earth

unfortunately Göring was too fat to fit inside and they had to leave him back with the führer and everyone else in Nazi High Command.

>"Hey Adolf wanna fly with the haunebu to our secret base?"
>"nah m8 I wait for the russians and kill myself"

so much for this retarded story.

>>128602168
again, a neat strawmen you got there. also you dont really believe the "hitler killed himself" story, do you?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment

if you believe that you probably also believe they got bin laden despite there being no proof whatsoever

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>>128602658
No shekels today

>https://theguardian com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment
https://archive.is/HW1cW

>>128602658
>Hitler's teeth were so bad — and uniquely bad — that his teeth alone made it possible to identify his corpse. The state of his teeth might also explain why everybody complained about Hitler's oral malodor.

yup hes dead

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>>128602686
my bad, thanks

>>128603378
during the losing phase of ww2 did Germany make any military mistakes that make no sense like sending a tank group to death for no reason? Why didn't they actually use the UFO crafts as a weapon?

>>128603808
because it never existed and is a disinfo campaign to distract from the ayy lmaos.

I saw UFOs back in 2009 and I can tell you the shit is out of this world, I always laugh when normies think 3 bright orange orbs doing loops at Mach 10 in the sky is just an airplane or a candle on a balloon.

Hitler if you are reading this please go on a world tour, we need you more than ever.

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>>128603363
nice source you got there. and of course he is dead, but he didnt die in berlin through suicide.

>>128603808
well, maybe the saucers werent ready for combat yet. the documents all say they would be operational at the and of 44-46.
or he realized that most people bought the propaganda against the nazis meaning he would have to fight not only military but also civillians afterwards and retreating and waiting until the time is right could spare a lot of bloodshed.
but i can only make assumptions about the motives

>>128604025
do you have info on the aliens then or do you just counter everything the OP says?

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>>128590264

haha wow this totally isnt a psyop

>>128604225
>or he realized that most people bought the propaganda against the nazis meaning he would have to fight not only military but also civillians afterwards and retreating and waiting until the time is right could spare a lot of bloodshed.
didnt think of that but could be plausable. people still believe the holocaust with no evidence and actual proof it was faked

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>>128604225
here

>>128604294
what would you consider proof for that?

>>128604802
it sucks theres no way to prove anything

>>128605037
Just look at the "biggest" UFO sightings.
Some crafts were so Huge, no way it was build here on earth by human hands.

>>128605270
so what do you consider to be your best personal proof and why you believe aliens are visiting earth? ive been looking for proof of that for a long time and ive never seen anything 100% convincing

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>>128596046

>>128604802
and from when is that article? what is the paper it was published in? it totally couldnt be just propaganda to show how the nazis were utterly obliterated.

>>128605548
>All major historic holy sites (pyramids, easter island etc) are build on a 100km wide strip that goes around the globe
>daily UFO sightings nowadays and some even in good quality
>that one incident over alaska where the jap captain saw a HUGE fucking craft (was in the 1980s) (was never explained what it was)
>HUGE alien ships that move around underwater making deep trenches in the seabed

>>128605693
Just google it

found it here
http://wiki2.benecke.com/index.php?title=2003_AIR:_Hitler%C2%B4s_Skull_%26_Teeth

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>>128606195
doesnt mean they are extraterrastrial >>128598470 >>128598548
could be those living inside the earth.

also i cant find any other source on that article

>>128595296
The Nazi scientists became our NASA. Operation Paperclip.

>>128606902
nope its aliums 100% and they come from outer space, in the ISS livefeed you can see them sometimes enter our atmospehere before NASA cucks Shut it down.

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And about this one?

>>128607039
I'd say only through that operation and Roswell happening Humans were even able to reverse engineer the Alien crafts and build their own.
like TR-3B or however the fuck you want to call it.

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pic related made by the USS trepang, a submarine in arctic water in 1971

>>128607122
again, what makes you think those are aliens? those could also be terrastrial crafts leaving earth.
i dont doubt there are aliens around, some of what we think are aliens are probably demons though and the other way around. hell, there are probably even demons the aliens brought with them around. but aliens is far to heavily shilled to be the real coverup.

>>128606902
does anyone have a question about PaRDeS?
I am an oldfag rabbi, I'd be happy to clear that up a bit.

Ex Nazi bamboozles Argentine nuclear science department https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huemul_Project

>>128589096
Keck'ed

>>128607887
just spit out everything you have schlomo. i would be thankfull

>>128608655
I'd need a bit more framing in order for it to be useful.

Essentially there is a method of analysing the Torah which results in multiple cohesive layers of meaning that are independently existent but wholly separate in their interpretation.

This is pretty useful for learning how to understand the message in the Torah behind the often seemingly implausible literal Peshat interpretation. However, it is not possible to understand the higher layers of analysis without having a foundation in the lower ones—this trend of layered exegesis is effectively the current state of the art of jewish apologetics, as reinforced by lurianic kabbalah and post-ChBaD hasidic thought.

>>128609447
Is this why no one in Israel works, and just ponders deeper meaning all day?
How many layers are they at now?

>>128607859
Its aliens, they also chill at the Sun, at the Moon and on Mars.

why would they be so cucked to live underground in some hollow earth shithole when they could live literally everywhere with their advanced tech?

>>128609710
I don't live in Israel. I am a physicist.

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>>128609447
what do you make out of the conclusion the other guy came to, that this means paradise is on earth?
do you think that is one hidden meaning, or did he go wrong somewhere? or is it the metaphorical aspect that you can create your own paradise on earth?

>>128609710
tbqh a lot of them work in engineering and nu-tech development

I always love these threads, keep them up Gerbro.

>>128609922
Oh I know, all the elite yids are moving their oil money, into biotech, as they desperately try unlock immortality and lab grown organs. While the more conspiratorial will say they're creating bioweapons

>>128609889
According to the first book of Torah there is a paradise on Earth but it cannot be accessed due to our having acquired a fallen state via what is described à la the episode with the nechash.

It is worth noting that the Lord left the gateway to Gan Eden guarded by a seraph with a flaming sword, which cannot be crossed by flesh.

The Torah is somewhat mute on the hollow earth and things like Agartha, etc for a number of possible reasons, most likely due to the greek and cannanite tendency to worship in subterranean (see: chthonic) and elevated temples (what is called in the bible, "Places on High").

The Hacidim are very interested in the notion of making a place for G/d in what they call the world of Action, or Asiyah, which is this one in which we inhabit. This is literally called "the lowest of all worlds", behind the others.

>>128609713
Your well poisoning is become more pathetic, take a nap

>>128610177
I know, right? It is pretty sad.
A good buddy of mine works in Mechanical Engineering towards microscale devices which are ostensibly for growing organs and doing individual cell counts but obviously has nefarious overtones.

Personally, I am too focused on my own scientific interests to be swayed by much of this way of thinking though. I wouldn't study maths if I wanted to waste my mental energy worry about grey goo.

>>128590781
Ronald Richter worked in plasma research in so much as lattice assisted nuclear fusion was concerned.

He knew why Bravo ran away and if you think it is because of Lithium 7 then you need to learn nuclear chemistry.

>>128610690
>It is worth noting that the Lord left the gateway to Gan Eden guarded by a seraph with a flaming sword, which cannot be crossed by flesh.
but didnt enoch (i think he was it, not sure though) allegedly went there and back without dying? as far as i know enoch is commonly accepted as canon even though not included in the bible. dont know how it is in the torrah

>>128607991
>he later was proved to be right on the money with now fusion works.

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this allegedly shows how the glocke works. an anon pointed out it could be a scalar device, a device that draws energy from the vortexes in the nether which then can be used for propulsion, energy supply, or as weapon. in case of the glocke probably all of those

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>>128611068
What does your Jewish physics expertise tell you about this image? Does it have any relationship to the physic as we know them now?

>>128611229
ok so this is actually an interesting point.
So Enoch actually existed at a time before the flood, so it is written that he saw the way the hills and water ways of Gan Eden were dug as he was taken up by Angels/Malokim to see it.

It is worth noting that Enoch 1,2 were definitely written by messianic jews sometime in the second century, but whether they are based on older sources is not entirely certain because the content is alluded to in several books. We know from references in the New Testament that Yashua was familiar with Enoch, and therefore we can assume that it was a fairly widely distributed source of knowledge amongst even lower class jews by the beginning of the common era.

Going back to the first book of Torah, there are some rivers which are mentioned as having been dug. Two of these are known rivers in Mesopotamia (named for these very two rivers) but the other two are apparently either not there anymore or something else entirely different has occurred which is not well understood by most.

The Torah is quite adamant that the antediluvian Enoch lived to be 365 years old before he was taken by the Lord. The same is later said of the post-Temple Navi Eliyahu, who was taken to Heaven in a fiery torrent.

So here are two individuals that went to Heaven (note: not Gan Eden, although some say they are the same) even though they were in a "fallen" state. It is worth noting however that the Lord Himself brought them.

The Bell is a bullshit story put out by Igor Witkowski with no actual corrobating documentation. Other than I saw these items mentioned in an interrogation debriefing. Joseph Farrell picks up on this with his imaginist Fascist International series. They both shared a common publisher at the time through the Edgar Cayce Society, check out Witkowski's, Axis of the World: The Search for the Oldest American Civilization, to see his ARE propaganda.

Witkowski had changed part of his story in subsequent books that the item in question was without a doubt a new type of photo chemical nuclear reaction process.

Agoston in writing and Voss through post war debriefings and his CIA person file both intimated the existence of the Kammlerstab.

Secrets of the Wunderwaffe has a lot of good documentation to it. The Die Glocke story isn't one...

>>128611897
It generates power and a field effect from plasma fields which are counter rotated in relation to each other while also subjected to extremely high current electrical pulses while being simultaneously super cooled. As Gabriel Kron and Ronald Richter noted, the geometry of the plasma coupled with its movement starts gating energy from space time, much like Castle Bravo or Mike, which used no Lithium 7 in its fusion reaction.

>>128590870
'Simon Gunderson' the progenitor of that page also peddles a ton of other conspiracies across the internet. His Bell site has references to some real research and then a ton of bunk and documents that don't exist if you go digging.

>>128612205
>implying your evidence matters to OP

for him its either Hollow Earth Homos or Nazis from Antarctica

>>128612003
Yah, that's pretty cool. It is a mercury drive
As far as physical descriptions of vimanas go, I always liked the one description of a toroidal engine driven by mercury like in the T3 Black Manta.

Honestly though, you get a lot more legitimate energy out of Plutonium. Have you ever seen the decay cycle of a Plutonium atom?

For a really long time I was almost obsessed with this stuff... Now I am pretty much just working on solid state stuff, which although more subtle is actually pretty deeply interesting.

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>>128612125
going to make some broad statement in here, but please bare with me for a moment. you mentioned that heaven and paradise would be 2 different things. however as far as i know the word used for heaven in the bible also just meant "sky" meaning they were taken into the sky and dissappeared there. going back to >>128601637 i mentioned UFOs ar around for a very long time. so what if the angels actually came with UFOs, took him to heaven/the sky (since they flew away) and from there brought him into paradise which could be inside the earth as mentioned in >>128598548.

having this in mind project bluebeam suddenly shines in another light. there were the following purposes i know about that are assumed commonly
1. Fake an alien invasion to unite the people under a common threat and create the one world government/NWO
b) making the demons appear as (friendly) aliens so we dont oppose them.
but there is another option considering this
III: Make the UFOs of the angels during the rapture look like they are aliens invading the earth so we reject their salvation and join the government and fall for the great deception.

pic related is a painting in Biserica Manastirii, or Church of the Dominican Monastery, in the town of Sighisoara, Romania according to what the anon posted. below it reads "Israel, hope for the lord" from either 14th or 17th century (depending on wether its from before or after the rebuilding of the church) the psalm mentioned below reads in whole

Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.

>>128614668
they didnt even bother to test how long it can hover? The easiest thing to test?

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