President Trump betrays NATO in speech

>>128577615
as if this is /pol/s fault kek

NATO is just another globalist slush fund thats main goal is start war with Russia.

Good riddance I say

Oh no, not the pointless outdated neocon military alliance nobody gives a fuck about anymore

>The chinlet pushes his jaw out to make it appear he has a masculine chin.

>>128577746

>nobody gives a fuck about anymore
>Georgia, Ukraine, etc. beating down the door to join

>Part of his campaign was literally "Fuck NATO"
>People are shocked and upset that he doesn't give a shit about NATO

Why does the national security team care what he says? It's their job to protect his ass and nothing else.

>>128577883

can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>Georgia, Ukraine

oh, you mean the fake countries?

>>128577615

Around April I was kinda pissed off at Trump, especially with the Syria bullshit. But these past couple of weeks, he's really impressed me. I'd love for him to start gunning for Hillary like he promised, but still.

No regrets.

>>128577615
what's article 5 and why would trump not support it?

>>128578004

Georgia is based, Czczczczczczczczczczczczvakovic.

>>128577883
Of course they do, that tie-eating faggot who ran Georgia is now a regional governor in Ukraine.

>>128578077

Article 5 is where every country in NATO has to defend the other.

Meaning if Russia attacked Latvia, and Latvia invoked Article 5, the U.S. would be obligated to fight for them.

>>128578077

Mutual self defense. Attack on one is an attack on all etc.

>(((National Security Team)))

>>128577615
>not wanting to fund a globalist organization that actively seeks to undermine your own country's interests

God I love Trump.

>>128577615
Your president your problem

>>128577615
Based.

>>128577615
Good.
Fuck NATO.

>>128577615
Trump always said that he wouldn't support NATO if other members wouldn't pay up their fair share. He's just following through with his promises desu.
GLOBALIST BTFO

>>128577615
THIS IS WHY TRUMP IS AN IDIOT. HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING. AT THE ELECTION WE SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR TRUMP INSTEAD OF TRUMP, ATLEAST WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THEN.

>>128577894
/thread

>>128578351
It's your problem dumb fuck.

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>>128577615
(((Applebaum)))

>>128577615

Europe can defend itself since they are so smug

>>128578351

kek

Let's hope Germany doesn't go full reich on you guys again w/o Article 5 or it might be your problem.

>>128577615
Article 5 is bullshit. Does anyone actually believe the Euros would help us out if the US were attacked? They can't even keep mudslimes at bay, WTF good are they during an actual war. They're the only ones benefiting from Article 5, they expect us to fight their battles for them.

>>128578351
Your Muslims your problem

>>128577615
trump is not a smart man

>>128577615
what was article 5 about?

>>128578077
Just an excuse for our country to invade others for oil if they get "attacked".

But we already have the oil, so we don't need NATO anymore.

>>128577615
Why should he defend retards like mutti merkel who live high on the hog while not paying their fair share.

>>128578604

Well, many of them followed us into Afghanistan when we invoked it after 9/11...

Might be a bit more shocking if other counties actually kept their obligations as well

>>128577883
Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO. They have disputed territories. If they join, the west will have to deal with the Russian rebels, which is a waste of time, and Crimea which is de-facto Russia. If they try anything in Crimea, it would trigger ww3.

>>128577615
>only proper military in NATO will stop supporting NATO
>means all the other members will have to start spending money on defense themselves or get gobbled up by ivan

that about right?
because that sound good.

>>128578579
but seriously go read up on her, she's a CFR globalist scum.

I'd settle for keeping NATO if we would kick the fucking Turks out.

Stoltenberg is photoshopped in this pic, right?

/pol/, can you refresh my memory, i vividly remember trolling her on twitter but i can't remember why. i think maybe it was brexit related or something. does someone else remember?

>>128578666

Germany (and all NATO members) should have to meet their military funding requirements or GTFO.

But we're not just talking about Merkel here... the Baltics, V4... lots of countries count on article 5, which would be fairly toothless without American support.

>>128577742
NATO is the only thing protecting the world from the new USSR, you edgy faggot.

>>128579165
>new USSR
Interesting name for the EU

>>128579165
how does NATO protect me from EU?

>>128579165
>NATO
You mean the US?

>>128579255
>>128579344
Nice try, kremlinshills, but Russia is the one wanting to revive USSR.

EU is retarded, but they have democracy and are not as despotic.

>>128577615

>pulls out of Climate Accord
>dips out on NATO

ooh noooo Europe's gonna have to pay and fend for their own shit, who's going to bankroll no progress shitty third world countries now??

>>128579344

It clearly doesn't, since you are running the show in the EU anyway. But Vlad might get a little aggressive if attacking NATO members no longer also means war with the US.

>>128577615
>(((Applebaum)))
Good to see she's still pushing for war with Russia

>>128579344
"EU Army" kek

>>128577615

Another promise kept. Don't we have the best President folks?

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>>128579536
Damn, I already have your flag
Thanks again anyway

>>128578645
you're a fucking idiot

>>128579536
A democracy where none of the plain citizens get to vote for their policies and leaders is not a democracy friendo

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>>128579736

>>128580172

The fuck are you on about? It's an alliance of nations, no one loses sovereignty at all, it is entirely optional.

Our military umbrella is one of the few assets we still have going for us and NATO has been largely responsible for the peace Europe has known for the last 75 years or so.

>>128579536
lol, its the EU oppressing and robbing me, not Russia.

>>128579656
I run nothing, the elites do. Read article 5, it never meant automatically war.

>>128579030
i was searching on youtube for some videos to see if i can remember something and found this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFkT1ePyfg
isn't it nice, two bitches, members of the same think tank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_War_and_Peace_Reporting) discussing "MUH RUSSIA" on cnn and pretending to be neutral and insightful. god, i hate these people, i wanna strangle every single one of them.

>>128577742
Honestly you guys should be making an allegiance with Russia. As Europe is going to be Europistan by the end of the century.

Russia meddling in predominately white countries elections, is because they are trying to get the anti-immigration anti-Islam parties elected to save their ass!

>>128578077
I´m pretty sure it states that every attack on an ally would be treat just like a direct attack on your own soil.
It was created during the cold war to stop further spread of the udssr.
it basically meant: "you better not attack that tiny country nobody even knows how to spell right or we will send your nukes after you"

>>128578077
>Why would Trump not support it?
Maybe because the US and the UK are the only nation's currently able to perform the duties required in Article 5. Trump has warned Europe to fulfill their obligations to military spending. By allowing their militaries to be in such a state that they are unable to perform the duties required by Article 5 they have abdicated their right to Article 5 protection from the UK and US.

>>128578068
That is Jeff Sessions's job now. He needs to remain hands off at this point for a solid investigation to really be effective.

>>128580540

Cut the pompous shit, Kraut. Re-read what I said if you couldn't comprehend it correctly the first time.

The only reason anyone gives a damn about article 5 or NATO is because it's seen as a safety guarantee that some tiny ass irrelevant shithole won't be gobbled up by it's neighbors unopposed.

Good.
The idea that a nation with 321mm people should risk everything for a nation with 622 thousand people like Monte Negro sounds crazy.

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NATO is a failure

Look at this shitty building.
Would you rather have this or 133 Abrahams?

>>128579580
but anon you don´t get it? positions acting solely in their nations interests are soooo last century.
we all should come together and work as one inform of a giant, corrupt, non democratic mega state, without borders nor national identity

>>128580895

Poland meets the 2% gdp military spending requirement last I checked as well. But yeah, pretty much everyone else is slacking.

Let Russia have Europe, they clearly can't be trusted to govern themselves.

>>128581068
looks like SSSS
mmh 4 s´s
4th Reich Superior Super Schutz Staffel?

Oh no....that sucks. Europeans might have to fund their own defense and cut back on some social programs instead of relying on us for their very survival while thumbing their noses at us constantly.

>>128581312
It looks like 4 claws digging up the GDP of USA, Greece, UK, Estonia and Poland, the only 5 countries in NATO who are paying their fair share.

>>128580989
once again, read article 5. Then you can join the debate.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

>>128581515
the Baltic counties don't even have an air force, they need Greek F-16's to protect them from straying Russians.

>>128577615
Why does Ms Applebaum think that mentioning article 5 is so important? How many times have other presidents gave speeches without mentioning Article 5? Honestly, it's kind of an understood thing about NATO.

>>128581528

>The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Hurr durr, but it's just a suggestion and shit.

How about when you can comprehend English, you can join the debate, faggot?

>>128577615
>Only three other countries aside from the US actually contribute the agreed amount to NATO
>Still want the same protection though

They shouldn't get anything until they pay what they owe and start paying their agreed amount.

>>128581515
is the UK really paying it´s fair share as well?
I thought that their once world famous royal navy is now so shit that Spain could defeat them

>>128581695
Not for long. Baltic countries are about the ones with biggest increase in defense budget between NATO countries

>>128582069
What is a "fair share"?

According to NATO it is 2% of the budget in defense and UK is spending this money.

Not all money is spend on the armed forces directly though.

>>128581880
>such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force,

one doesn't need to be a genious to see this formulation leaves all options open, incl. not deem necessary to use any force.

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>>128578181
what happened with the Falklands?

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>>128577615
GODDD YESSSSS
FUCKING BASED TRUMP
FUCK THE ZIONIST WARMACHINE NATO
FUCK THE FREE GIBS TO EURABISTAN
FUCK THE ATLANTIC AND FUCK (((TREATY ORGANIZATIONS)))
ABSOLUTE IMPERIUM OF MAN UNDER GOD EMPEROR DONALD TRUMP AND NOTHING ELSE, NOW!!!!!!
YOU FAGGOTS WILL ALL FUCKING BOW AND FALL IN LINE OR YOU WILL BE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT I SWEAR TO GOD REEEEEEEEEEE

>>128578004
Georgia is not a fake cunt

>>128577615
Now if only he could get us out of the UN and the UN out of the US, I could die happy.

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>>128578077
It's that thing that's only been invoked once, where one country demands pls halp. That once being the US invoking it after 9/11 and everybody went to Afghanistan. Maybe next time they'll say lolno, we're busy right now.

>>128582458

> an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all

If you're the kind of cuck that wouldn't respond when attacked... which I guess objectively might well be modern Germany, then sure.

I guess under your fucked up mindset everyone wants in NATO to belong to some fucking club or extra-governmental organization just for the shits and giggles.

>>128580421
>((((((((("peace")))))))))

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>>128577615
Why would americans want to defend turkey if it got attacked?

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>>128580895
>they have abdicated their right to Article 5 protection from the UK and US
source? because if this is officially true the US just upended the entire post-war settlement and has no allies now.

>>128583073
if turkey got attacked we would take and secure constantinople and scorched earth the rest and then have a beer at the bonfire of roachistan's corpse with whoever (russia) attacked them afterwards

>>128582953

Check out Euro history for the last 200-300 years and come back and tell me that it's not been comparatively peaceful for the last 75.

>>128580421
>Our military umbrella is one of the few assets we still have going for us and NATO has been largely responsible for the peace Europe has known for the last 75 years or so.
This. And some edgelords actually want this to end now, during the most trying time for Europe and let it all fall to Russian despotism.

>>128583317
their children werent being sold to mudslimes for use in their rapegangs by their own governments so yeah, it was peaceful in eurabistan prior to the bad guys winning both world wars

>>128579165
Russia is constantly responding to aggression from NATO. Each time Russia has done anything its because NATO has pricked at it.

>>128581515
>Greece actually paying their fair share
>its a % of GDP
NATO is USA, UK and a bunch of leeches.

>>128582069
You fought wrong

>>128582950
so you see, the cuckshed named NATO is useless.

>>128583317
it mainly has to do with demographics rather than the lack of will to forcefully meddle everywhere. Overaged societies are always reluctant to send their only sons into military adventures. Ali being killed in A'stan has no big impact as he has 4 brothers and 4 sisters, only sons Franky or Sven being wounded or killed has a demoralizing effect, there's a huge lack of recruits after conscription has been discontinued.

>>128577615
Why would anyone want to defend Turkey when attacked?

>>128582936
>Oh no this thing we never use isn't being supported by the US. Oh no what are we ever going to do?

The same fucking thing you have always done. You didn't use it so you don't need it.

>>128578351
>Trump frees the US of obligations to countries that spend on gibs instead of defense
>My taxes go down
>EU either loses their gibs or raises taxes again
>My Problem

>>128584060
>NATO asks for 2%
>NATO allowed Greece, Estonia and Poland in
>They pay their fair share

What is the problem with it? They have little money but put their money into guns to kill russians and kebab.
Meanwhile france and italy are useless fucks as always

>>128577615
fuck nato

>>128585845
War against muslim majority nato countries when?

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>>128578068
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/04/senate-committee-launches-a-new-clinton-investigation/

Good. Fuck entangling alliances, isolationism now, isolationism forever!

>>128583833
I seem to recall Russian, not American planes constantly violating other countries' airspace.

>>128578004
Georgia isn't fake. They're as old as Poland.

>>128577615
nato is a waste

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>>128577615
>(((Applebaum)))

Fuck NATO.
>>128583554
And fuck you too, you Albanian shit or whatever you are.

I hope trump drops out of nato and teams up with putin to nuke yurop and the whole me. Then we'll use the niggers in africa as labor to get the rest of the oil out the me

Please don't

If NATO becomes weaker Russia is going to invade the Baltic states and maybe even us
And after Germany saves us (IF they save us), they'll make us take a billion refugees

>tfw you'll see the end of the white genocide plans of EU and NATO

>>128577615
That's a political trick to lay pressure on NATO to get them actually follow the agreements of the pact

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kek

link to Speech anyone?

>>128587826
>R-Russia will invade any minute
Yeah, a 150 million country will totally invade a continent of 500 million. They totally have resources to occupy all that territory and deal with people who don't want them there. And Putin will totally rally Russians to go and die, real life is like a video game.
You fucking moron.

>liberals complain that trump didn't talk about the thing they were ready to complain about.

What am i reading?

>>128586236
this is why she's on the ""it's everyone elses fault but mine"" tour whining to anyone who'll listen trying to establish the narrative that everyone is lying and just out to get her because she's a stronk woman and shit

>>128588447
The same way they didn't start a war with Georgia and Ukraine, right?

>>128588882
Are you retarded, seriously?
Ukraine is a demolished non-country. Russians feel Ukraine is a part of Russia that was artificially separated. Russians feel Ukrainians are not a real nation.
Same Ukrainians, or at least their elites, are pumping up anti-Russian sentiment like crazy.
Plus, there are Russians in Ukraine.
So Putin can sustain and sell a limited conflict there to Russian public.
It's not 1940's. Communism is gone there. Russian ideology is now focused on multi-polar, somewhat isolationist world.
The ideology of USA and NATO by extension is American global hegemony.
I'm sorry if you are too illiterate to understand this.
I suggest you read American statesmen like Kissinger or Brzezinski. They are literally saying what I am saying, only they coat it in PC bullshit.

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NATO does such a good job securing Europe from Islamic terrorism........

Seems like all they do is sit at the Russian border while Europe suffers from Ottoman Empire 2.0

>>128589378
Oh, and I forgot to add, even this conflict in Ukraine doesn't have unanimous support in Russia. Crimea was approved by pretty much everyone, but Donbass divided Russian public.
Putin is not dumb and Russia is still formally a democratic republic, even if his methods are authoritarian to say the least.
In practice, that means that Putin's power is secure only as long as Russians back him, and they do that.
If he started idiotic bullshit like you assume he will, he would be deposed fairly quickly. Those who would depose him are not just Russian people, but various other groups of power, that aren't really dominated by Putin, they simply cooperate with him.

What Americans don't want to tell you, is that their fear is not Russia invading Europe, which is a low-tier fantasy (and it's scary to think they are still pushing that bullshit, given how outrageously idiotic it is).
Americans fear that Russians might disrupt their global hegemony.
Not just that, Americans fear Russia which has the power to do so, even if they aren't doing anything. Just read Wolfowitz doctrine, to see how their hawks think.
So my final question is, why the fuck are you so eager for American domination?
Are you really so brainwashed that you believe it's a dichotomy, either Americans dominate or Russians dominate?
Russia is not USSR and this is not 20th century.
Russia has no means to dominate openly.
Eastern Europe could be secure by our own regional arrangements that would serve our interests.
But no, blind naive dicksuckers like you can't pull American cock out of your mouths and it's scrambling your brain.

>>128577615
Europe is no longer a friend.

And finally, take a fucking look at modern America. It's a disgusting society. Sure, we aren't perfect either, far from it, but it's disgusting and scary on another level.
Do you want that culture to dominate over you? Do you want to bet the future of your people on fucking Americans, which are right now on the path to becoming 50% non-white, because they are brainwashed morons who bought the bullshit their elites sell them?
What you don't get is that it's the USA that's the USSR of 21st century. A massive sick entity that wants to spread it's cancer all around the globe.

>>128579656
France has nukes if it comes to that.

>>128590285
Montenegro is literally half non white though look you're half negro.

>>128581515
You don't know how NATO is financed. The actual budget of NATO where this building is built with is very fairly shared and nobody underpays.
There is no real contract that binds us to spend 2% of GDP, anyways. And that money wouldn't go to the US or NATO, but to our arms industry and our soldiers. At no point did the US or any other country have to pay more because otherwise, our security would be at risk. So we don't owe anybody money.

If you think otherwise, we don't care. There is no way yu can make us pay, anyway.

>>128589602
>NATO does such a good job securing Europe from Islamic terrorism........
That's not NATO's purpose.

>>128577742
This.

NATO is the private army of zionist jews

>>128587792
Watch Empire of Dust to see why that is a bad idea.

Fuck NATO, Fuck the UN, Fuck the EU. Literally just international mafias for dictators.

>>128591065

>If you think otherwise, we don't care. There is no way yu can make us pay, anyway.

Learning from the Greeks, I see.

>>128579344
>>128579255
>>128579392
>>128583833
ignore this faggot hes a larping albozerg from kosovo

>>128578077
>>128578181
And to add to this, the countries in NATO don't want to cover the costs of keeping American troops in their country for the sole reason of protecting them

>>128591514
>Learning from the Greeks, I see.
Actually, it was proposed after Trump announced he doesn't care about climate contracts.

The tactic of not paying for your own defense was common during the cold war, too. All the countries in second and third line underpaid, while the frontline country West Germany actually took the heaviest burden. Germany tank formations were the actual backbone of NATO.

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>>128591882
great, thanks for the history lesson, but were in a "what have you done for me lately" kind of world, I hate to say it but: Pay debnts germoney!

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>>128591655
>>128592212

American troops in our country don't protect us. They use it as an operation base to project power.
All those HQs, hospitals and control centers don't defend shit here. There is a single combat brigade here. Take it elsewhere and be quiet about it.

>>128592212
>pay debts
>but muh greece
The great age of the kraut has come to an end

>>128577615
kek get the fuck out ami from meine Kontinent, nato is kill.

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>>128591285
You're wrong.
NATO is very good, it's starting to look like Trump is a Zionist shill much worse than we could have predicted;
This is just a precursor and another excuse to implement a EU army, this is REALLY REALLY bad.

>>128592212
try to make us nigger.
>>128592405
The age of the nigger come to a end.
You lost your continent wide buffer zone.

>>128578670

Many =/= all

If article 5 is so easily ignored it's worthless

FINELY WE WILL BE FREE OF THIS AMERICAN NIGGER MENACE!

EUROPE IS FREE!!!
WE ARE FREE!!!!!!

>>128592316
Why would they have combat brigades in Germany a non-border country?
Are you really this retarded?

>>128593133
yeah, no, you called and you got unrestricted support.

Now fuck of mein continent.

>>128577615

Fuck NATO and fuck white people.

>>128593059
>nigger
ok kraut go back to sucking on muhammeds dick

>>128592316
dont forget because of that we are a priorety target for ICBm´s. We will get nuked if the niggers sperg out.

But this has finely ended.

Time to send all the info we have on america its technology its bases its procedures to china and Russia. from CIA to army to marines to navy and air force.

>>128577615
They need to pay for Nato properly, then they get what they want.

>>128593186
Exactly, there is no need for Us troops here and also no need for huge armored formations of our own.
We should just use our defense budget for science funding like the US does and add the coastal guard.

>>128577894
every single time, with everything he acts or does not act on
every
fucking
time

>>128593139

You're under EU banker globalist control run by Jews. They have a score to pick with you. The utter and complete annihilation of your country.
But you're FREEEEE! Free as a bird bitch.

>>128584060
>NATO is USA, UK and a bunch of leeches.
This desu.

>>128593240

pay denbts

>>128593447
You don't pay for NATO, it's not a protection racket. If you think otherwise, why should we be a part of it?

>>128593422
>implying they would have any info
kek shill on kraut it amuses us

>>128577615
Fake news.

>>128578181
Technically not true.

>“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

>Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

The US could in theory support Latvia with blankets and hot chocolate.

>>128593656
>Americans do not understand how the EU works
Count me surprised

>>128579165
EU is the new USSR, faggot.

>>128579536
> EU
> democracy
kek

>>128593749
Do entrance characteristics of ICBMs count?

>>128577615
>(((Anne Applebaum)))
Every time.

>>128593814
>Krauts defend their hegemony over western Europe
Count me surprised too

>>128577615
This is good, freedom will only reign when NWA groups like the EU and NATO are disbanded.

>>128594157
>NWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZi25Pq3T8

>>128594006
No everyone has that lmao our nuclear weapons tests are probably filmed and are about everywhere

>>128582257
kek
We have the population of one big city, combined.
And looted by EU at will currently. There is Greece in the making here so the German banks can prosper.

>>128593553
>We should just use our defense budget for science funding

You already can, thanks to the US. You don't even pay your fair share to defense costs in NATO, so we make up for it. Would you like us to remove Aegis BMD? I'm sure we'd have no problem relocating it to our own soil. That shit cost a lot.

>>128593814
I understand how the EU works as a slave under the federal German Eu oligarchy and know that freeedom will only reign with the Eu dissolved and the nation state once again put back as the absolute truth in political structure.

>>128594126
20% of voting power isn't really a hegemony. It's like California in the US.

>>128594289
No, we did the research for Darpa. But the Chinese stole them in our University anyway. Sorry.

>>128594247
Fuck I meant NWO

>>128577615
The thing that Trump doesn't get is that if we are going to spend 2% or more on our defense, than we can easily defend ourselves and will therefore kick the burgers out. The deal is that Europe gets free defense, and the USA gets bases in Europe. If we are going to pay for our defense ourselves, then why exactly should we tolerate american bases in Europe?

>>128591433
Why so mad, chink?

>>128594382
We were against the BMD. That's why you have no parts of it deployed in our country.

>>128594470
So many words, so little content, no facts

>>128593139
> becomes China's bitch
> thinks he is free

Enjoy the mayhem, shithead krauts.

>>128591065
NO.
YOU ARE LAX WITH YOUR OWN SELF DEFENSE AND NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU DO BEFORE YOU DO IT.
MAYBE SPENDING AS YOUR OWN SINGLE UNIT WILL MAKE YOU ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT THAT RATHER THAN FORCING YOUR MISTAKES ON OTHERS AROUND YOU.

If you want to talk about Tony Blair or Bush, they were neo-lib/con Europhiles. Your team. Team multiculti D+C.

>>128594942
We supported neither the Iraq war nor Libya. We are clearly not on team Blair and Bush. We are not going to pay for your failed illegal wars that destabilized entire world regions.

>>128593892
no that is america as they go the same way the soviet union goes. overspending like a bitch. collapse in 2 years.

>>128593699
make us :-)

ahahahahahhaha

>>128578527
>TRUMP INSTEAD OF TRUMP
I agree, fuck trump, trump is a much better candidate.

>>128577742
Why should he reiterate the US obligation to defend them, when they haven't been paying? Not only do they have to up their defense spending to 2% of GDP, but they have arrears to make up. Or else I suppose Article 5 does not apply, because other countries aren't keeping their end of the bargain.

It's nice to see the shock from Europe. Yeah we really mean it this time. Pay up or go it alone. Merkel talks of going it alone, which I would never object to. Have fun!

>>128577615
Canada and Turkey need to be kicked out of NATO for Canada's human rights violations and because Turkey keeps trying to drag everyone into war with Russia.

>>128594382
nobody is forcing you to spend that money. your bugged you problem.

dumb amernigger.

No fuck of mein Kontinent.

>>128595344
OK cool and we're not going to do anything under Article 5 if you're attacked. In other words, we're going our own ways. It happens sometimes, nothing wrong with it. Bye.

>>128588447
They literally did it before you mongoloid.

>>128595704
yeah it will eb really nice if you get another 9/11 or china invades you and we wont help you. no we will aid china instead.

ahahahhahahahah

America has by far more enemys then friends and now you got some more enemys.


ahahaha i cant, this to good to funny. get rekt ameriniggers.


Europe is not in Russias or Chinas corsair, you are.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Western Europe has been fucked under the American government.
I don't like Russia but fuck at least they don't have all the mass immigration BS.

>>128596065
We will help.

>>128588882
They invaded because of US forcing out Russia from black sea and wanting to separate Iran and Russia.

With amerniggers gone from europe Russia has no reson to invade as europe has no intentions for war or take over of russia.

Just take a look at trade relations and political climate between Russia and Eu.

IT WAS FUCKING OUTSTANDING!

And who fuckt it up?

America off coarse.

I wonder who was loosing billions of dollars in oil and gas trade.

>>128577615
EU needs to stop being niggers and pay their debts.

>>128596065
Hows that muzzie invasion working out for you guys? I heard they won't stop until every one of your white women are brown.

>>128595941
K thx, bye

PS: This is your 3-day eviction notice. Don't make it awkward and leave nothing behind.

>>128596065
>germany vs the us
We can all tell you're inbred hassan

>>128596546
looks good. soon its over, you stuck with your niggers and with Russia and china wanting you dead, if you dont step aside and stop forcing your geopolitic ambitions on them.

>>128578077
It gives protection to every NATO punk who wishes to poke the bear without the fear of repercussions because Russia doesn't want to start a world war. Remember how Turkey hit our jet and we couldn't bomb them into oblivion? Article 5 is action.

>>128596666
^THIS

SO FUCKING MUCH THIS!!!!

>BAAAAAAAAAAWW WHY WON'T TRUMP DEFEND COUNTRIES NOT FULFILLING THEIR AGREEMENTS

Poland is okay. Fuck Germany. Fuck France. You two faggots fucked Europe. You want us Anglos to do everything for you, for nothing.

>>128597137
We don't want shit from you. Nobody cares about Australia. Why are you even in this thread? You have nothing to do with us.

>>128597137
Nigger, we dont want you even in our country's, not in Europe!

WITCH FUCKING PART OF AMI GO HOME YOU DONT FUCKING GET?!

Anglos are a meanness, a disases, a cancer.

Iraq has only proven that the america from 70 years ago is dead and you have to be destroyed. America is danger to world peace and stability.

>>128597485
>We don't want shit from you
I'm sure if your politicians suggested dismantling Nato and defending yourself your population wouldn't freak out.
>>128597547
Such anger, if only you felt that way about the actual invaders in your country raping your people.

>>128581068
>Look at this shitty building.
>Would you rather have this or 133 Abrahams?
Oy vey!

>>128591180
>That's not NATO's purpose.

True. NATO's purpose is to forcefully make sure that European ((governments)) can continue to islamify the continent unimpeded.

>>128596118
>I don't like Russia but fuck at least they don't have all the mass immigration BS.
Russia is already a multicultural shithole. It's also poor. Nobody wants to go there other than to fuck underage girls/boys for a few bucks.

>>128582531
Brits chose to not use it

>>128598070
We wouldn't stand alone. We prepared and added a mutual defense clause to the Lisbon treaty. So you would be the only hostile nation bordering us. And with harbors from Spain to Finland, you can't blockade us anymore.

>>128598931
Meant the UK

>>128598706
The Falklands were outside of NATO jurisdiction, so even if they wanted to, they couldn't.

>>128579536
Gotta be wary of Russia but you are so stupid it hurts. You probably think Ukraine was all Russian aggression and completely ignore Obama and Soros groups too don't you?

>>128577742
ivan pls

>>128579536
>Russia wants to revive USSR
jej

>>128578004
Gruzja to stary kraj jebany idioto.

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>>128580421
>doesn't know about Gladio
>doesn't know about integrated command that puts NATO member armies under American control
>doesn't know about French-American foundation
>doesn't know about NATO terrorism pinned on the far left and far right

Trump is right, Europe will only prosper under 4 conditions:
>dismantling NATO
>partitioning Germany
>deporting all africans and middle easterners
>execution of all politicians that work/collude with foreign interests, primarily the U.S.A., Israel and Germany

>>128577615
You realize this was the entire reason Putin wanted Trump elected

>>128577615

A Western alliance that includes Turkey isn't worth keeping together. I'd sooner ally with a snake.

>implying I give a FUCK about NATO

>>128579165
That was true a while ago but the USSR is dead.

>>128604117
comparing based hitler with this ape is outrageous

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>>128604117
They waste no time with Hitler comparisons. He has taken Godwin's Law to such new heights that he broke it entirely.

>>128577615
What's funnier is he betrayed his National security Council since they supposedly gave the sign off in a completely different speech altogether and Trump decided to use a different one.

Madman

>>128578004
>ukraine
>fake
Hey Vlad

>America shouldnt police the world

>we need Americas military to police the world.

The fuck.

>>128584060
This. I find it super fucking odd that countries like Germany, France, and other large western countries love to trash Trump about his NATO comments, but cant be fucking bothered to pay their fair share. The last published data i saw, the USA actually has to overcompensate for France and Germany's unwillingness to pay by quite a bit while Greece is about to go bankrupt but still pays their fair share.

fucking pathetic. Its time to either pull out of this shitty deal and let Europe fend for itself or excise the german and french tumors and only offer protection to countries that pay their fair share.

>>128579536
>despotism a bad thing

>>128577615
Trump is not going to let Turkey drag us into war in Syria/Israel.

Most of you have never seen a fantastic president before. Pay attention, because Trump is God Tier.

>>128577615
>Trump isn't doing what (((we))) are telling him to do.

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>>128577790

I'm gonna start doing this

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>>128577615
Trump is our dear leader, nigger.

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DAMN.. I love Trump. :)

>>128596754
Why would we bomb them all in oblivion, when we need Kostantinopolis? That`s insane.

They would just give us the Tsargrad and the problem will be fully resolved.

>>128605026
Because the "2% of GDP towards self defence" benchmark was agreed upon in 2014 as a value that countries would work towards over the next decade.

I mean as long as they're increasing their spending a bit every year, I'm happy

Germany is already at 1.2% and France at 2.9% (I think, I checked it a little while ago)

They're doing fine, I don't get what's Trump is complaining about

>>128593422
>Time to send all the info we have on america
>kraut still pretending his country has any power or sway outside of manipulating and controlling its eu satellite states

>>128578689
West germany also had disputed territories

>>128577742
PLUS Germany and others owe tens of billions of dollars for not paying their 2% of GDP to NATO.

Keep taking a sledgehammer to globalism Trump

>>128578068
Ya this, plus the climate treaty pullout has made me really happy.

He was jewing out for a bit, but I think that he's realized he can't afford to betray his base if he wants to win.

SB can shill well if Trump goes against his promise (like bomb Syria). but it's a horrible dead and forced meme when they try to shill about how we all need to be pissed at Trump pulling out of the (((climate deal))).

>>128608296
They're only required to hit the 2% mark by 2024 though

>>128578351
More your problem than ours faggot. We dont benefit from NATO but you do.

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>>128583103
>allies
That's an interesting way to spell "leeches"

>>128586683
And I seem to recall Russia being surrounded at all sides by Nato military bases at all sides
And I also seem to recall our airspace being violated by Turkey, a member of the Nato, every day
JUST bin the whole thing, no superpower should be left uncontested

>>128611026
We benefit from NATO since it provides extended reach in Europe against Russia, and to a degree, the middle east

>>128596065
>we won't help you
You literally haven't been helping since NATO began. You are a joke.

>>128611026
>>128612221

You benefit from NATO in the sense that:
it puts the nations in the integrated command center under your direct control military wise

it forces NATO nations to adopt standard NATO, read American made, military tech hence why FAMAS was killed, France killed Ghaddafi, etc...

>>128594874
Reminder that its either the US, Russia or China in charge of the world
You would have to be an idiot to pick anything other than the US, Europe meeds to uncuck like your nation and Poland.

>>128577615
NATO is finished and the butter bar information """warriors""" lurking from Brussels will all have to get a real job.

>yurop spends all of last week saying how unreliable an ally the US is, subverts domestic White House messaging, and refuses good faith negotiation on climate policy

Gee, why won't Trump commit American blood to the defense of Europe?