CANADA YES! Bill 89 take kids from non-binary/LGBTQ homes and

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>>128522798
>73% of gays are pedophiles

>foster kids

literally who care if christcucks cant virtue signal with these future criminals

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>>128522798
>Refusing to let junior grow tits and chop off his cock results in children services placing junior in a pro-cock chopping pro-tit growning trans-friendly SJW faggot family

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>>128522798
What the fuck is wrong with this country?

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canada was a mistake

Im reading through this mess of a bill.
But under which article does it state that a child is in need of protection when parents dont consider their gender identity?

>>128523071
I bet this bill won't target degenerate guardians who try to force trans-genderism on kids who don't want it.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/22/boy-treated-as-a-girl-by-his-mother-suffered-significant-emotional-harm-court-hears/amp/

>>128523140
That's true. But what happens to the jobs of the poeple that work in the big corps? Poof, gone. EI shoots up, government debt shoots even higher, then taxes shoot up.

We're absolutely fucked

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>>128522798
>"HURR DURR I CAN'T PUNISH MY CHILDREN FOR BEING GAY/TRANS/BI ANYMORE!"
You conservativefags are just mad!

I'd beat my kids until they are SCREAMING I'm not a fag

>>128522970
The law is broader than this, read the bill.
This is literally next level kikery, they are creating a bureaucracy inside the Nanny State in Canada to fuck the country over.
How can you guys vote for this?
You don`t understand what they`re doing with your system of education and government?
I take it that you read french, get some insight on the matter.
>https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1377451.Pascal_Bernardin

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>>128522883
I found some official statistics saying that this number is a lie
So I looked up articles of people debunking this number on the internet and their argument is that "fucking a young boy isn't gay! There are many pedos who fuck young boys and identify as heterosexual. They are attracted to young people, which is different than being attracted to an adult of the same gender"
Basically these lunatics are using the same logic of "traps are not gay"

These people are sick

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>>128522798
It's about time a country acted to stop children from being brought up in hateful homes and surrounded by prejudice. Why can't the rest of the world be like Canada?

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Ontario's childhood school curriculum was written by Benjamin Levy (Deputy Education Minister) and Kathleen Wynne (Education Minister, now current premier who passed this Dyke Bill)

Quick Rundown
>Benjamin Levy
Convicted Pedophile and Child Rapist

>Kathleen Wynne
Mentally Ill dyke who left her husband in the 80s to "realize her sexual energy" and took her 3 kids with her. She "married" another dyke and her own children hate her.

>Ontario's Childhood Sex Ed Curriculum
>Starts at age 5
>Teaches kids about (((gender identity)))
>(((Transgenderism)))
>Pro-LGBTQ
>Teaches gay sex graphically
>Teaches kids that group anal fisting is OK

Remember, written by a pedophile.

>Pic related

>>128523479
It literally says "Creed" as "Religion".
So, will they protect a kid that wants to obliterate non-whites and respect his creed?
Will they protect the opposite?

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>>128522201
Nope, the poster is real. I t was made by a teacher for a GSA (Gay-Straight Alliance) if I recall correctly.

>>128523710
NAMBLA exists, anon, they fight for the right of offering an icecream to your kid and taking him for a "walk" from your porch or backyard.

>>128522798
>Ontario
the place where your sex ed curriculum was written by a convicted pedophile?

any normal human left that shithole years ago

>>128522798
From what I can tell, the bill's more concerned about letting a child freely express their own sexual identity. Seems harmless.

>>128523722
can not machen this shit up

>>128523722
They're attempting to normalize pedophilia.

canada just needs to be nuked

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>>128523465
72 is used to determine when a child is at risk.
72(3)(e) is the dick chopping section. Suffering = mental / emotional suffering. Not letting kid chop dick off = suffering, hence kid is in need of protection.

73 is the best interests of the child. If you read carefully it says "any reason deemed relevant"

>literally any reason can be used to justify removing the child

101/102 deal with placement of the child in a new home (must be massively pro-SJW) and custody

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Luke 21

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Canadians hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of Canada shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Rake coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for the Day of the Rake draweth nigh.

>>128523465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQWVK0yPwQk
I know it's Rebel Media but they show clips of the bill in the video. Strip out their bias, the information is accurate.

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>>128522798
BOY I SURE DO LIVING IN A COUNTRY WITH A BILL OF RIGHTS

>>128524011
>Attempting
No, they`re actually allowing it before Islam comes by and start marrying little girls.
It`s their "Creed", anon.

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>>128522798
We should all nuke Canada out of existence

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>>128523710
Someone post the pozcatchers/2 bikers in London raping the young Asian twink copypasta

>pic is of Ontario Childhood Sex Curriculum

>>128523790
o shit what if a child follows the Aryan creed?

>>128522798
>73%
HAHAHAHA so you're saying literally every child statistically is being raised by at least 1 pedophile hahahahaha fucking retard

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>>128524076
Until it gradually gets buffed out of memory.

>>128524197
>Ontario is Canada
How about we nuke all of Bolivia instead?

>muslims are excluded because

>>128524197
You know, I couldn't pinpoint Bolivia on a fucking map if I tried.

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>>128523790
Creed doesn't mean religion you dumb brazillian ape, otherwise they would have used "religion".

What they imply creed to mean is "core religious principles". This allows them to exclude targetting Muslims, Sikhs, etc and only go after Christian/White families for the LGBTQ/Gender Identity schpiel.

>>128524209
you can tell that fucking muslim wishes all the gays would die

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https://medium.com/@John_F_Power/how-canada-let-a-child-sex-abuser-run-rampant-across-asia-89f78e11f4aa

>>128524472
>Act. However, a child’s or young person’s creed is listed as one of several factors to be considered throughout the new Act. “Creed” is defined to include religion.
Your new bill says otherwise.

>>128522798
>Muslims/Sikhs are except

CAN WE JUST FUCKING NUKE CANADA

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>>128522798
>>128523071
holy shit

>>128522798
WAHHH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL MY GAY KIDS LIKE MUSLIMS

Go fuck yourselves conservacucks.

>>128524472
They just redefined Religion, not Creed.
You dumb motherfucker, I live 40 years under an hegemony from the left, you want to teach me how to read nuances in their writing?
This law is so fucking broad, it looks like an UN manifesto.

>>128523465
A friend of mine asked Wynne it the bill meant children could be taken away during a question period type event, and after a minute of umms and ahs she finally said "yes" and moved onto the next question

>>128524591
>include
>not equal

Go to the debate transcriptions and search for "creed". They discuss it in one and the intention is to bypass Muslims and other "ethnic minorities" where removing a kid based on Muslim beliefs would not be in the spirit of the bill.

It's Ontario anyways, they never do anything to Muslim families for fear of being sued / called racist

>>128524741
i would trade you for muslims

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>>128524282
>"a state militia"
>fallaciously implying exclusion of other scenarios
That looks like a Common Core level of education: pure communist disinformation. Disgusting.

>>128524741
10/10 shitpost would have aborted if you were mine.

>>128524640
Does it actually say that?

Why the fuck do the Liberals always target white families?

>>128524805
DID THEY DEBATE THIS?
I thought you people said they passed this on the sly, WHAT THE FUCK?
Are these people insane?

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>>128524830
SAT prep book for HS kids, IIRC.

>>128524047
>72. Consultation with bands and First Nations, Inuit or Métis communities

???

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>>128522798
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>128524744
That's the whole point

The Ontario Courts all appointed leftist SJW judges

See picture

They overruled a dead White Christian doctor's will because a 40 year old Dyke SJW judge ruled him homophobic, sexist and racist

>>128524810
>>128524889
Look at these pathetic damage control leafs.

>>128524805
Click on 'debates' at the top. They had a few

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>>128524741
Why don't you go after the Muslims who kill their kids?

>honour killings

>>128525023

I can't believe I'm spending time and money to qualify to practise law in this chickenshit system.

>>128524047
Can you give me the source?
Im reading something different

>72 A society, person or entity that provides services or exercises powers under this Act with respect to First Nations, Inuit or
Métis children or young persons shall regularly consult with their bands and First Nations, Inuit or Métis communities about
the provision of the services or the exercise of the powers and about matters affecting the children or young persons,
including,
(a) bringing children to a place of safety and the placement of children in residential care;
(b) the provision of family support services;
(c) the preparation of plans for the care of children;
(d) status reviews under Part V (Child Protection);
(e) temporary care agreements under Part V (Child Protection);
(f) society agreements with 16 and 17 year olds under Part V (Child Protection);
(g) adoption placements;
(h) the establishment of emergency houses; and

>>128522798
Sounds good to me, start pumping out white kids, be anti-LGBTQ, have some queers take care of them while you get to keep be child-free.

>>128525023
Which other places are like Ontario?
How does it work, will it only function in Ontario and not in Labrador, for example?

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Northwestern Ontario mechanic leaf here from last thread.

>considering relocating to Montana with wife.


Yeah it kills me honestly. I'm a 5th generation Canadian. Family all came over in the late 1800s from england/Scotland, literally fucking pioneered this land, and I love it so much... My great grandfather was a log driver/harvester/lumberjack, grandfather was tug boat operator - used to tow log jams and bring in large ocean grain amd ore haul vessels to dock in lake superior... and it tears me up I'm going to have to move inevitably because the dykewynne and faggotreaudeau have put me into a position where I have to put my families best interest and livelihood first.

I plan on returning maybe when I'm mid 40s but for now were making plans to leave so we can actually earn and save for having kids and retirement, But I'm still very torn I'll have to leave for a bit.

>>128525133
Why would one go after a perfectly non-barbaric, civilized cultural activity such as honour killings? #DiverseGraves

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>>128525248
>log driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsZZ2s3xv8

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Damn that's a whole new level of PC.

I feel bad for you leaf.

I hope you get her back.

>>128525189

Yeah this shit is only in Ontario (unless Trudeau thinks it's such a great idea he tries to adopt it nationally, though I doubt that would pass).

As for which places are like Ontario: British Columbia (typical west coast liberals), Quebec (although they're commendably xenophobic towards non-French speakers). The prairie provinces and the maritime provinces are both more traditional.

>>128525133
Why should we protect people who hate gays?

>>128523952
Whats with this fucking retarded overemphasis on children's sexuality
Why not let them be kids and not fixate so heavily on who or what they're going to fuck
The sex ed curriculum is written by a man who likes to fuck kids and now he's hell bent on making kids want to fuck
You can make kids believe anything if you put them in a classroom setting and tell them they're learning, it's indoctrinatio and it needs to be stopped

>>128523790
Nowhere in the bill do people get protected based on creed, gender expression, race, etc.
Every time gender or creed pops up it's under a list of factors that should be "taken into consideration" when looking at the best interests of a child or should be "respected where possible" when placing with foster families (s.109(2B))

>>128525174
They will prolly force you to pay the gay couple child support.

>>128525174
To add to this, if there are any white liberal chicks out there who want to start pumping out kids to gives to gay couples so they can have kids, I got lots of cum to donate. It's going to waste in tissues as it is.

>>128524962
>pic related

To be fair, e) is a more appropriate answer, as a family could just be a husband and wife, or a single parent and adopted child, or any other combination where there is no blood relation.

I'm more interested in what it says if you select a), b), or d), since "should" is entirely subjective.

>>128524972
This is the same I am reading.

>>128524962
That definition of family is pedantic, but correct. I would consider my wife family, but I am not related to her. I consider my sister-in-law family, but I am not related to her. I consider my mom's sister's husband my uncle, but I am not related to him.

I just want to know what Brett Hart thinks of all this shit.

>>128523656
shill

A

>>128525100
look at this faggot

>>128525414
What do you have against Muslims? Are you a racist?

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is this real life? please wake me up, i'm feeling sleepy

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>>128523071
O I AM LAFFIN

How is this different from the heavily criticised stolen generation in Australia when we took aboriginal children to try and denigger them

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>>128525380
Hahaha I knew what that was before I even opened it. Makes me think of great grandpa. Thanks for the feels anon.

>>128525461
You still don`t know why is it so broad and you can extract any meaning you want from it, do you?

>>128525729
Yes, isn't most of this board?

>>128524047
where are you reading that, cause it ain't article 73

>>128524072
I have the bill open right in front of me and the it this is what they consider as a child that needs protection:

>(2) A child is in need of protection where,
(a) the child has suffered physical harm, inflicted by the person having charge of the child or caused by or resulting from
that person’s,
(i) failure to adequately care for, provide for, supervise or protect the child, or
(ii) pattern of neglect in caring for, providing for, supervising or protecting the child;
(b) there is a risk that the child is likely to suffer physical harm inflicted by the person having charge of the child or
caused by or resulting from that person’s,
(i) failure to adequately care for, provide for, supervise or protect the child, or
(ii) pattern of neglect in caring for, providing for, supervising or protecting the child;

>(e) the child requires treatment to cure, prevent or alleviate physical harm or suffering and the child’s parent or the person
having charge of the child does not provide the treatment or access to the treatment, or, where the child is incapable of
consenting to the treatment under the Health Care Consent Act, 1996 and the parent is a substitute decision-maker for
the child, the parent refuses or is unavailable or unable to consent to the treatment on the child’s behalf;

>(f) the child has suffered emotional harm, demonstrated by serious,
(i) anxiety,
(ii) depression,
(iii) withdrawal,
(iv) self-destructive or aggressive behaviour, or
(v) delayed development,
and there are reasonable grounds to believe that the emotional harm suffered by the child results from the actions,
failure to act or pattern of neglect on the part of the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child;

>>128525797
This asshole country did the same thing to our Natives, the entire story is so sad.

>>128524962
A, B, and D trigger my autism

Family is should be [...]

>>128525858
Tests, nowadays, are meant to be like that, there isn`t "100% correct" nor "100% wrong".
But subjectively they will influence people with 'wrong-think'.

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>>128522798
Fucking Wynne. Every. Time.

no. photo is not a shop

>>128525533
>husband and wife
>single parent and adopted child
>or any other combination where there is no blood relation

not families

>>128524962
By that definition a gang, militia or cult can be a family.

Watch out, Canada! I know you have a strong Swedish competitor, but you're being too hasty!

>>128526113
They are families. The strict blood-relation you're thinking of is called "kin".

>>128524069
I love you Jesus

>>128524962
Well I can see how he got that question wrong. Among rednecks, their wives are usually related to them by blood.

>>128525956
Have a look at 109

>>128526010

Amazingly, the few natives that actually were made Christians and adopted into white families went on to live successful lives. I know one with a MA degree, she's married with a white husband and they're great people. She resents the shit out of the reserve natives and their gibsmedat attitude.

>>128525782

That plain-clothes RCMP officer is absolutely disgusted.

>>128525412

Manitoba is a cucked gibs province too.

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>>128526329
How are leaf posters such cancer?

A family is a couple + at least one child. Their child. The child they had together. As a couple.

>>128525867
That's some impressive backpedaling. Nowhere in the bill is it suggested that children can or ought to be protected based on their creed or other factors. That is not a meaning you can extract from the bill because it literally isn't in the bill.

A white supremacist child would not be allowed to go on a nigger hunt and then be 'protected' by his creed. His white supremacist beliefs would be put into consideration when finding another foster family but would probably be overlooked as 'where possible' is superseded by threats to the safety of the child or others and I think you could make a pretty clear case that fostering hateful rhetoric could reasonably be suspected to lead to harm of others.

>>128522798
Enough jewish tricks. Fill every kike womb with white seman. We can end this in a generation if we act fast

>>128526762
So a married couple is suddenly related by blood?

>>128526081
This, how she is still alive is a mystery

>>128522798
Jesus fucking Christ what the hell is going on

>>128525956
Modern legislation is like a trap, no article is harmful by itself, by when you put some together, magic happens.

>>128526586
Im looking at it and it still doesnt see children in need of protection when their gender identity isnt met

>>128526763
But if a teacher sweet talks your kid and convince him he is an homossexual and should give him a blowjob, and warn his family that he is moving with him, his wishes should be fulfilled since his homofobic parents aren`t allowing such, right?
That is not currently in the law as well, but I`m sure nobody will ever extrapolate that, right?

>>128527118
Now look at both together.

>>128526762
that's a nuclear family.

>>128526956
I mean if you want to think about it as they're both blood related to their child, thus they're blood related, it sort of makes sense

>>128527285
Someone have read a newspeak dictionary, congratulations.

>>128522798
>Premier of Ontario

Good thing I don't live in Ontario then.

Atlantic Canada remains comfy af.

Sucks to be you lads though, that's fucked beyond measure.

>>128526763
It`s not a debate, it wasn`t my country that passed the law.
I`m telling you this is so broad that you can imagine every single possibility.
Muslim teaching says there`s nothing wrong with marrying little girls, what if he convinces your daughter into being a Muslima, a teacher maybe, I`m certainly her "Creed" would have to be protected, but that is not in the law as well, so I guess it will never happen?
My point is, this law does everything, but they don`t give a fuck about children and enables a lot of bullshit.

>>128527103
Well obviously this is dubious as fuck and putting this gender identity crap in the bill in the first place is part of the ideology.
But in theory your child shouldnt be allowed to be taken away just because you deny them their gender identity (if the whole judicial systems isnt corrupt)

>>128526956
You don't cut your palms and clasp hands to mingle blood at weddings?

Seriously though, that sounds like it could be a thing in some culture somewhere.

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>next-generation faggotry way up in Canadistan
>I'm just sitting here in Texas where we don't give a shit about your precious fucking feelings

Enjoy your degeneracy, Canada. You've earned it.

>>128527471
Could you please post article 109, please?

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>>128522798
>leafs still won't kill anyone over this

>Ontario

Can't say I'm surprised.

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>>128526956
And this is why your opinion is irrelevant - you are a retard.

>>128525533
>all families care for each other

this is just hippie fluff speaking anyway

>>128527285
>Nuclear family
Soon enough all families in Ontario are going to be nuclear families because we are going to detonate enough atomic bombs to turn the entire province into a sheet of glass that is so reflective that global temperatures cool a full 2 degrees due to all the sunlight being sent back into space and the hippies will finally shut the fuck up about global warming because they all died in that hellish atomic inferno.

>>128527118
That falls into "psychological harm", anon.
Read (f).

>>128524197
Didn't know you had internet desu

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>>128527598
This bill is a fucking mess

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>>128522798
>statistically speaking, LGBTI families are more stable than hetero-normie equivalents
>kids from LGBTI families are better-adjusted than those that come from wife-beating hetero-normie homes
>single mothers are the single most likely group to spawn faggot kids (*no male influence and little time for actual parenting)

>>128527598
Tts too long to post it here.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/41_Parliament/Session2/b089ra_e.pdf
take out the parts to prove your point pls

>>128522798
Why the fuck have I not heard anything about this bill until now, after it has already passed?

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>>128524282
The lefts attempts at rewriting history needs to end.

well let me tell you that I dont like this.

>>128527406
Nova Scotia is decent right? My girlfriend and I are talking about escaping there once we're ready to raise a family, we've heard the cost of living is way lower.

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>>128523551
>disagreeing with a bunch of faggy teens about whether wolfkin and pansexual is even a real gender can get your child taken from your home
> "conservativefags are just mad"

I agree with this line of thinking. For instance: if you are gay, nigger, muslim, jew or any non-white, you get gassed. If you disagree, you are mad!

>>128528052
thanks fritz, get to work on that next reich now okay? We need it.

>>128527471
The part that worries me, if a parent decides to deny hormone treatment to their kid, or even say to wait till he/she is older, the kid could be taken away.
Then when the child is placed into a new home, they confirm the parents are willing to go through with the hormone stuff before getting placed with them.

>>128527804
Where does it state that it is psychological harm?

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>>128522798
>LGBTQI
What the hell is I? And shouldn't paedo-acceptance be added to the list as well at this point?

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>>128524972
>>128525166
>>128525941
74 Child in need of protection
(2) A child is in need of protection where,
(e) the child requires treatment to cure, prevent or alleviate physical harm or suffering and the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child does not provide the treatment or access to the treatment, or, where the child is incapable of consenting to the treatment under the Health Care Consent Act, 1996 and the parent is a substitute decision-maker for the child, the parent refuses or is unavailable or unable to consent to the treatment on the child’s behalf;

74
Best interests of child
(3) Where a person is directed in this Part to make an order or determination in the best interests of a child, the person shall,
(c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

(i) the child’s physical, mental and emotional needs, and the appropriate care or treatment to meet those needs,
(ii) the child’s physical, mental and emotional level of development,
(iii) the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression,

> (c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

>literally any fucking reason
..
>literally any fucking reason
..
>literally any fucking reason
..
>literally any fucking reason
..

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>>128525143
You must be the change Anon. Do not fail us. At the very least do it for your nation.

>>128522798
This is fake r-right guys?

>>128528102
Cost of living is lower in NS but property taxes are high. As well, the cheap land has pretty shitty internet, so if that's a high priority for you, then it may not be the ideal place to move.

NS still has a lot of the cucked federal laws (of course, they're federal), Quebec, Newfoundland, or the US would be more ideal.

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>>128524209

>>128528353
74 deals directly with circumstance that can take the child away from the parents/guardians.

In my e-lawyering view, (j) is the detrimental paragraph

>(j) the child suffers from a mental, emotional or developmental condition that, if not remedied, could seriously impair the child’s development and the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child does not provide treatment or access to treatment, or where the child is incapable of consenting to treatment under the Health Care Consent Act, 1996, refuses or is unavailable or unable to consent to the treatment to remedy or alleviate the condition;

>>128525797
It's a lot like the easter bunny example since the stolen generation is complete fiction.

>>128527856
about (2)
(b) is very suspect
(c) is separated from (b) on purpose
(e) is very suspect

about (5)
(b) is suspect


>>128527887
thanks for the link

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>>128528443
WAKE UP LEAF!

>>128528533
see >>128528510

>>128527856
It`s not a mess, it`s broad in definition, and will be used to explain every kind of kikery, imagine a tax lawyer surfing the code... this is similar in comparison to the State - that can afford pretty much anything with taxpayer money - and a private citizen.
It`s made for the case that whatever the result they want to have, will be taken anyway.
It`s like our gun laws, they don`t nominally prohibit guns, but they have a subjective question that is up for the one asking to decide if you deserve a gun or not, and the private individual end up never acquiring one.
>just an example
>>128528288
>(f) the child has suffered emotional harm, demonstrated by serious,
>(i) anxiety,
>(ii) depression,
>(iii) withdrawal,
>(iv) self-destructive or aggressive behaviour, or
>(v) delayed development,
>and there are reasonable grounds to believe that the emotional harm suffered by the child results from the actions,
>failure to act or pattern of neglect on the part of the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child;
It is MEANT to be this broad, who will define that is literally the STATE.

>>128528278
where are you reading this?
This is the only thing that is mentioning treatments

>(e) the child requires treatment to cure, prevent or alleviate physical harm or suffering and the child’s parent or the person
having charge of the child does not provide the treatment or access to the treatment, or, where the child is incapable of
consenting to the treatment under the Health Care Consent Act, 1996 and the parent is a substitute decision-maker for
the child, the parent refuses or is unavailable or unable to consent to the treatment on the child’s behalf;

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>>128526959
because people like you keep waiting for someone else to do it
bystander effect multiplied by leaf effect equals no hope whatsoever for your country
we're going to build a northern wall and you're going to pay for it

>>128528548
I-I dont wanna. its scary outside.

>>128522798
>>128523379
>>128523479
>>128523520
Why doesn't your church speak against this? Are you that cucked?

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>>128528510
*2 (j)

Also

IMPORTANT 74 / 3 / c / iii

>>128527103
The terms are also becoming more and more ambiguous and a lawyer can very easily convince a jury of x/y/z with the kind of word games at play here.

>Well, it depends on what the definition of the word 'is' is.

>>128526763
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/house-proceedings/house_detail.do?locale=en&Date=2017-03-06&detailPage=%2Fhouse-proceedings%2Ftranscripts%2Ffiles_html%2F06-MAR-2017_L050.htm&Parl=41&Sess=2#para536

I will point out that my definition of “creed” is really—well, I think of the Apostles’ Creed, for example, of my church. It’s kind of a litany or a rendition of the core principles of the religion. “Creed” or “religion”—I consider that kind of the same word.

My constituent goes on to say, “There is a potentially dangerous ramification from this change: The children of parents who refuse to affirm ‘progressive’ gender ideology may be more likely to be considered ‘in need of protection.’”

It goes on to say, “Under the act, a child suffering or ‘at risk of suffering’ mental or emotional harm and whose parents do not provide ‘treatment or access to treatment’ is a child in need of protection under the law. The children’s aid society must investigate evidence that children may be in need of protection, and a court can make orders governing the care of children deemed to be in need of protection.”

This letter goes on and on in this vein. It’s something that we all have to consider.

My constituent concludes in the letter, “This bill is ideological and puts family integrity at risk.”

>I will point out that my definition of “creed” is really a rendition of the core principles of the religion.

>>128527856
Sort of seems reasonable. Personally, I would put faggots into psychiatric care to fix them, but it seems reasonable and expected to not home niggers in white supremacist families, or faggots into fundamentalist families.

Is this literally the entirety of controversy?

>>128528668
>trusting catholics to get anything done other than virtue signal for Mary

>>128528668
Speak against children rights isn't a crime in Canada?

>>128528668
can you send one of your guys to do the things these kuffar leafs are too scared to do

I don't even know how a child can have any concept of their "gender identity" or their sexuality when they haven't even hit puberty yet.

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>>128522798

>>128528870
No, this is >>128528753
This implies the States right to take children away where gender identity/expression is important to the child.

74 / 3 / c / iii

>>128523901
literally what the fuck?

>>128523720

thicc

>>128523071
Institutionalized child abuse

>>128525797
Coons use to eat their children.

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>>128522798
canada is dead to me

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>>128527804
>>128527118

74 Best interests of child
(3) Where a person is directed in this Part to make an order or determination in the best interests of a child, the person shall,
(c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

> (c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

(c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

> (c) consider any other circumstance of the case that the person considers relevant, including,

>ANY FUCKING REASON
>ANY FUCKING REASON
>ANY FUCKING REASON
>ANY FUCKING REASON

Leafs... my fellow leafs. I think its time to pack it in we lost. maybe we should all just leave Canada its gone.

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>>128522798
if anyone has their kids taken away please contact me

i have a solution

>>128528946
Because Kathleen Wynne, the premier of Ontario, has started teaching sex ed - gender expression, anal sex to kids younger than 10.

You'd hope I'm joking. I'm not.

>>128529144
>best interests of a child
You can read it as judge/psychiatry interest.

>>128522798
Just nuke Canada you leafs had your chance

>>128529175
> yfw I came over all the way from Europe to uncuck you cucks
STAND UP AND FIGHT YOU YELLOW BELLIED BASTARD

>>128529357
Thanks God, China is colonizing Canada.

>>128528510
>suffers from mental , emotional or developmental condition

perfect, so it cancels out gender identity which is not defined under a mental, emotional or developmental condition (if it would be, that would be racists remember?)

>>128529418
How. Canada has anti free speech laws.

>>128529517
This is (i), please read (ii) and (iii).

>>128529191
I sometimes wonder whether people like this know that they're evil.

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What is the point of this gender nonsense anyway?

Besides satanic judaism / cultural marxism / cianiggers?

Hope you Canadians understand what's going to happen to those Christian kids. It's called rape.

>>128529144
73 determines when a child is in need for protection
74 determines "Best interest" of a child.
You can talk hours about what is in the best interest for my child, but if it doesnt fall under the paragraph "in need of protection" you can fuck off

>>128529517
>(ii) the child’s physical, mental and emotional level of development,
>(iii) the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression,

>>128529517
>>128529814
If I was one of (((them))), I'd argue that stifling the child's right to choose gender identity lead to an impairment in the child's mental/emotional development.

>>128522883
Can confirm. Was molested by a lesbian for 8 years of my childhood.

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>>128528510
>Where a person is directed in this Part to make an order or determination in the best interests of a child

This is how it works.

"I, Judge Kikeberg of the Ontario Family Courts Bench, hereby consider Adolf to be a person in need of protection under 74(3)(c) when considering the best interests of the child considering the anti-social, xenophobic and anti-LGBTQ values closely held by Adolf's birth parents that would result in psychological and emotional harm to Adolf."

>74(2) BTFO

>>128524011
The slippery slope was always real.

Adopting kids is fucking cuckoldry anyways.

Stop raising other people's children, fucking cucks.

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>>128528496
Jesus christ i hope this is some larp bullshit otherwise im incomprehensibly disgusted by these fucking animals

>>128528533

>2(b) is very suspect
They're the Ontario Human Rights Code protected grounds of discrimination, the whole concept of which is highly suspect, as is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms on which it is based. The gender identity/expression provisions are the worst part, other than that they can be used to make sure your kids aren't given to Muslims as opposed to white Christians if that's your family background
>2(c) is separated from (b) on purpose
Probably because those are not OHRC protected grounds.

>2(e) is very suspect
>5(b) is suspect
I'm slightly less leery of them, because they've been grounds that have always been taken into account in traditional child protection cases. Applied properly, both can work to protect the parent and a child that wants to stay with the parents from state action.

But of course I'm approaching this from a sane perspective, and the application is likely to be insane, so what do I know?

>>128529636
?

>>128530049
read the OP again, they can seize your biological kids.

The reason they want to do this is the gay couples want some sweet 5 year old boipucci to rape 24/7. This is how they're going to secure their supply: steal young children from homophobic families.

>>128530049
Are you retarded? the gubbmin can literally take your children (Biological) AWAY FROM YOU and give them to gays.

>>128522798
>awful country full of awful people makes awful decisions

more news at 10.

>>128530249
Dad save us.

>>128522798
I remember hearing something like this few years ago as dumb TV propaganda telling how rotten is West and how good is Russia, which nobody takes seriously. And now it is reality, what the fuck leafs?

>>128523676
We voted for legal weed. This was the microscopic fineprint

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>>128529966
74(3)(c) is a fail-safe that allows the leftist Ontario Bench to do whatever the fuck they want in case they can't use anything in 74(2)

If there's something in 74(2), they will use that. If not, 74(3)(c) any reasoning they want.

>>128522883
>revealed that 73 percent of of homosexuals suveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 of age or younger

Are you retarded?

Plenty of kids have sex with one another at 19. I lost my virginity to a girl at 19. If you had a survey of straight people who had had sex with a 19 year old or younger sometime in their life, it would be 80 fucking perfect since most people aren't virgins by 20.

Perhaps it would be lower, but you get the gist. Completely misinterpreting the data in moronic way.

I'm reading through the bill, and most of what I'm gathering is that being a First Nations is Very Important (tm), and that a prebuscent child's sexual identity and orientation is far more important than their religion.

For fuck's sake. Everyone who actually interacts with those fucking communities should know that if there's a kid who was raised in an Indian reserve and sent to foster care, the last fucking thing they need is to be in another dysfunctional native home. And letting a kid make their own sexual decisions before they're legally an adult is moronic to the extreme.

Fucking liberals I swear to god.

>>128530154
>perfect, so it cancels out gender identity which is not defined under a mental, emotional or developmental condition (if it would be, that would be racists remember?)
Gender identity isn't on >>128528510 but is present on >>128529848 of the same article.

>>128530399
>we

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>It adds “gender identity” and “gender expression” as factors to be considered “in the best interests of the child.”

not even mad at leafs anymore just fucking depressed

what have you done?

>>128530348
Heeeyy hows northern Russia looking? good movin locale? is it below 20C? I have an issue where if im heat higher than room temp I get pins and needles all over muh body.

>>128530249

I won't take issue with your characterization of Canada, but I will point out that at least for the time being muzzies aren't routinely butchering people in our major cities, unlike in your neck of the woods.

>>128530475
It's here >>128528753

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>>128528496
>I had a biker mate, and for a while we'd go round together using the above 2 methods. one nite we couldn't find anyone so we rode up to hamstead heath, London's cruising area. we wandered about till we saw a cute young asian guy. he was a bit drunk, i think it was his first time on the heath. we smiled, said hello, and led him to a quite part of the heath. i started kissing him while my mate pulled down his pants. then my mate pinned him to the ground, and using just spit for lube, raped his ass. i held him down and pushed his face into the mud to stop him screaming. when my mate finished it was my turn.a fter we'd finished we both pissed on him and told him we both had hiv. we left him there, sobbering, soaked in piss, with our poz loads in his cunt. i still get a hard on thinking about it

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>>128522798
>kid asks if he's a girl
>tell him no, he's a boy, why would you ask that
>sex ed teacher told everyone they can identify as girls, boys, or non-binary if they wish
>tell him that he's a male and that's that
>next week, RCMP bust down my door and send my kid to Mohammed and Ahmed's boy lover's rape shack in the name of tolerance and understanding

>How do you know what you like, if you never tasted it, little 9 year old leaf?
Whoever wrote this law, is laughing with Satan right now.

>>128522798
>Dyke Premier Wynne has just passed Bill 89, which allows for Children's Aid to seize your kids (biological/adopted/step children) if you hold anti-LGBTQ/binary gender/anti-gay marriage views

Good.

t. Lesbian girl

>>128522798
At think at this point it would be prudent to invade Canada over humanitarian reasons.

>>128530656
sssssssssssauce?

>>128522883

>73% of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger

That's worded very weirdly. It also doesn't exclude the possibility that they had sex with boys "16 to 19" when they were themselves 16 to 19. "At some time" is pretty vague.

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Americans! Help us! Please!

>>128530778
http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/41_Parliament/Session2/b089ra_e.pdf

>>128522798
What is next if this trend keeps going?

>>128530475
These are two different paragraphs,
74 (2) determines when a child is in need of protection
74 (3) determines what is in the best interest of your child, which includes this gender shit

If your child is not in need of protection there is no reason to take it away

>>128530831
God help us

>>128528668
>Canada
>Church

The churches in Canada are under the preview of the government.
You preach what is allowed, or you loose your financial benefits as a religious institution, as you'll be branded as a cult, which doesn't qualify.
This makes every religious leader in Canada step in line (except Muslims, as they don't give a fuck, as their Mosques are funded by the Saudi).

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>>128530435
>Completely misinterpreting the data.

>revealed that 73 percent of of homosexuals suveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 of age or 0-15 years of age
>0-15 years of age

I'm pretty sure if you're rawdogging a 5 year old boy you're a pedophile.

>>128530861
With this new bill they can take children away if they state determine that is child interest.

>>128527431
Why are your apostrophes fucking weird ?

>>128530944
>I'm pretty sure if you're rawdogging a 5 year old boy you're a pedophile.
wait what

this is why i stopped getting on /pol/

ONE DAY

I decide to come here for merchant memes and poke fun at Leafs or something

Then I see this shit.

What can I do? I seriously get so down after finding out about stuff like this I just can't function as well at work and at home.

Why. Why do I still keep coming. This is just best to stay ignorant of. Let me die in bliss. I hate this world. It needs to drown in fire....

>>128530547
for all our faults, we haven't gotten to the point of abducting children and giving them to sexual deviants.

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>>128530700
>SJW
>lesbian
>girl

Brainwashing your kids with religion is basically child abuse.

>>128522798
Guess it's time for Canadian civil war. Will be selling guns to conservative Canadians.

>>128531060
He's using a mac.

It changes the apostrophes. It's a fucking nightmare when using regex

>>128530054
No, there are groups of gay people that literally consider themselves as "marked (having HIV)", and they make games about "marking" other people.
There is shit like that in our local news from time to time.

>>128531155
>underage detected

Uh guys can we fight this?

>>128529175
Fuck you.

Start finding out whom in your neighborhood is a massive leftist, and garotte the fuckers, one by one.

>>128531022
No they cant.
When you as a parent dont recognize your childs gender identity. Your child is not in need of protection and cant be taken away from you.

>>128525645

Not a single person in this planet would consider a childless couple a family.

Your sister-in-law is not your family, she's you wife's family. Your offspring may call her family, but you are not. Her being family would imply that you breaking up with your woman in the ugliest way possible and divorcing her wouldn't change your bonds with her family.

You and your wife are not a 'family', unless you have a child that binds the two lineages together.
Again, an unmarried,childless couple is not a family by any definition of the word. specially in this postmodernist society we live in

>>128530054
There is a reason why more than 50% of AIDS cases come from gays

>>128531127

In Rotherham parents begged your childrens' aid society to do something to protect their children from the "Asian" rape gangs preying on them and they refused.

We're both damned.

>>128523656
>i'll beat my kids til they are SCREAMING i'm not a fag
That's what turns kids into fags you fag. I should know. Go on /lgbt/ and ask how many of them were abused as kids. The answer is almost all. Child abuse creates fags especially if you tell them you are beating them to stop them from being fags.

When you beat a kid you aren't turning them into a big tough alpha male you are turning them into someone who wants to be abused and fucked in the ass by a "daddy"

>>128522798
Daily reminder that your pathetic country will be annexed by us.

>>128523071
and maybe that is what is wrong with socialized medicine you are the property of the state crumps Canada wtf I mean seriously - is Canada all like this? I mean Alberta is still somewhat sane or has all canada just gone fuckin nuts - I bet it is all the film people coming up from Fuckedupfornia

>>128529572
It was illegal to shoot red coats too, yet the Yanks did it.

>>128531435
You severely underestimate the Canadian judicial system.

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>>128531286
It's called "bug chasing" here. Guys who have it are said to have the "gift" and are gift givers, where as HIV negative fags are bug chasers.

They actually have huge orgies where one HIV neg guy gets his ass fucked by multiple poz guys in hopes of catching HIV. Sometimes they use razors to cut up the inside of the guys ass to increase the likelihood of infection etc.

Then they try to catch different strains and shit. It's completely fucked. I read some forums and my mind was blown as to how fucked up mentally some people are

US has an epidemic of homeless gay teenagers, fundies totally lose their shit when they find out their children are gay. Thank you based Canada for protecting LGBT kids from their parents - they shouldn't need that protection, but as long as some idiots care about hurting their god's feelings more than their kids it's bound to happen.

>>128531435
For people with decency? You are right.
For the actual rulers of Canada? It don't make a difference.

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>>128531136
>SJW

I'm anti sjw. I'm right wing because Islam oppresses LGBT and I don't want them here. For that reason I don't think parents who preach hate should be allowed to have kids.

>it's another "pol falls for shit spread by fundamentalist blogs at face value" episode
This is the same poster who keeps trying to push that debunked "ABORTIONISTS ARE BUYING LAMBOS WITH THE PROFITS MADE OFF DEAD BABY PARTS" narrarive

>>128525533
>>128525645
>>128526014
>>128526134
>>128526525
why is there even a question and a correct answer to begin with about what a family is? why is the state even telling people what a family is? state shouldn't even be involved in that.

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>>128531790
>I'm right wing because Islam oppresses LGBT

>>128531584
I have no experience with corruption in the canadian judicial system.

Fairly I would thank them for taking away my fucked up son of a bitch who has the balls to sue me for emotional assault because of his tranny phase.

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>>128531790
>I'm anti sjw. I'm right wing because Islam oppresses LGBT and I don't want them here. For that reason I don't think parents who preach hate should be allowed to have kids.

>>128531790
Are you an idiot, easy believer or malicious?

>>128531816

>the Ontario government is publishing fundamentalist propaganda as laws now

Good to know.

>>128531701
That`s because being a homo was a psychiatric disease until the 70s when the American Council of psychiatry voted it shouldn`t be anymore by a vote o 7 to 4, mind you, with a fucking march of homos threatening the doctors life outside of the place where the voting was taking place.

>>128531936
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634998/Sex-acts-pets-OK-Canadian-Supreme-Court-long-doesn-t-involve-penetration.html

Does this give you an idea at the scale of the problem/epidemic within the Canadian legal system?

>>128530923
Why doesn't the Vatican fund them?

>>128531701
They treat STDs like pokemon cards, gotta catch em' all.

>>128531936
You will be sued by emotional assault, a impossible to win cause, even with evidence.

>>128531997
Yeah, I remember reading that. So peaceful and progressive.

Doesn't change the fact gay men die 25 years earlier than average. Most dykes die from violence.

>>128530944

>with boys 16 to 19 of age or 0-15 years of age
In other words, 73 percent had sex with someone between the ages of 0 and 19. If you want to start talking about pedophiles, you should provide data for only people who have had sex with people who are prepubescent. In many states, the age of consent is just 16, and some even have a "romeo and juliet" law to allow children under that to consent if their partner is only so much older (e.g. a 15 year old having sex with a 17 year old). So your data containing pedophiles is poisoned by all of the legal teenage experimentation.

>>128524282
>separation of church and state
This phrase needs to die. No where in the constitution will you find anything about separation of church and state. It says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," which is very different from saying "Congress shall not make laws based on christian morality" as some of these faggots may have you believe.

stuff like this makes me wonder how the MUH FAMILY optimists on this board even exist.
how do you even plan to raise kids in this world. seriously.
by the time your kids are 5 years old, these kinds of laws will be everywhere, and your children will be taken away from you and forced to live with gay niggers from outer space because CPS cross-referencing ISP data with CloudFlare logs will confirm you are a white supremacist nazi who posted on the hate site 4chan once in 2017.
also by 2025 expect mandatory electronic implants required to buy and sell, where you get cut off permanently if you're ever caught saying white people deserve to live.
if you're having kids at this point in history then you're just enthusiastically piling more bodies onto moloch's sacrificial altar all because you let muh paternalistic fee-fees override your foresight.
why are you dragging innocent souls into flesh prisons, you're just forcing them to live in hell.
MUH FAMILY shills are the worst

>>128532073
You idiot statists always try to use this as some example. There are far more things wrong with Canada than having the freedom to let an animal lick you.

>>128531951
>>128531874

I'm lesbian. It makes sense to be conservative because liberals want to import Muslims.

>>128532108
The Pope is a fag, I really don't know how that guy got there.

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>>128532159
I actually saw Pokemon references when browsing the forms

>>128523071
This is good, people who don't take care of their kids will have the kid taken away and it's cock removed.

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>>128523071
Jesus fucking Christ. If my parents weren't still alive I would fuck off to the Maritimes. Bad weather and no jobs would still be infinitely better than this degenerate shitshow. Wynne still has another year before she gets savaged next election too. This province is such a joke

>>128523071
WHAT THE FUCK

>>128532245
You're not lesbian.

You're mentally ill. Seek help.

>>128523722

Someone cap this with the pic and add it to the other pile of dumb shit Kikes and Dykes are doing

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>>128522798
>canada

>>128532225
Because if you willingly commit evolutionary suicide then they win by default.

>>128522798
Explain this to me like I'm 12 leaf. Is this a local deal?

>>128532236
Why libertarians use made up words like lefties and SJWs?

>>128532176
It`s because the most violent people against faggots are other faggots, and when they kill each other to a higher number, the government decides to push anti-homofobic laws.
They even go so far as picking up statistics from rapes in prisons, they consider a prison rape as being heterossexual against an homo type of violence, this people should be purged from this world.
If you fuck a faggot, you are a faggot, by definition.

>>128532496
Ontario only. For now.

Kathleen Dyke Wynne leading the charge as usual.

>>128532496

Yeah, it's like if California passed a law like this. Wouldn't apply anywhere else.

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>>128532245
Muslims and anti-LGBT are not mutually exclusive

>>128522798
Good for them

>>128530831
If you're not Muslim then your kids get taken to mosques for "cultural enrichment"

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>>128531790
>I'm anti sjw.
>But I support a sjw bill
Kill yourself

>>128530700
You know how the dance goes. You're not going to be here for a while back and forth between the two of the animals out at the barn and the US and Canada and Mexico city of London and I will not decide to go to college soon as possible to have a ruined orgasm the same time as well? I'm sure that you have a neural network? I'm going with the girls , but I think I'm going to be running for government office soon as you can get a chance to win.

>>128532538

Tree niggers ladies and gentlemen. All words are made up.

>>128531557
Alberta / BC / Saskatchewan ("the west") is nowhere near as fucked up as everything on the other side of Manitoba ("the east")...
BC just has hippies (the Vietnam draft dodgers).

How the hell did this pass? The liberals somehow manage to surpass my expectations and sink even lower

>>128532073
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634998/Sex-acts-pets-OK-Canadian-Supreme-Court-long-doesn-t-involve-penetration.html

>men puts peanut butter on girls
>sued for bestiality
>English 1861 Offences Against the Person act defines what falls under bestiality
>court has to accept that
>laws will be updated

>>128532644
Now you came with relativism. Sure moderns libertarians are left.

>>128532108
Vatican is not a regulatory organ, Christians obey God, not someone sitting in a robe, surrounded by gold preaching tolerance.
If it isn`t in the Good Book, it`s against it, and that Pope is pretty much an anti-Christ as far as I`m concerned.

>>128531391
you could kill her and become a legend
or you could continue to live a miserable shitposting existence on your knees as everything you care about is slowly stripped away
why do we always choose the latter?

I think all the non fags should move to Alberta and then Alberta should leave canada so we can get rich off oil once the prices rise

>>128532751
Where do you think words come from exactly monkey? Dropped from the sky via stone tablets a prophet can magically read or what?

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>>128532543
>>128532545
Except Ontario Family Court rulings are enforceable in any province

Furthermore, if you lived in Alberta and your wife moved to Ontario and then filed for custody in Ontario the same day, she could use the law against you in Alberta.

Even if you fled the country to another one, most countries subscribe to the Hague Convention of Parental Kidnapping, so the country would send the kid(s) back under the Ontario Family Court ruling

There are a few countries that don't follow it, such as Hungary, Poland, Japan, etc if the kid is considered a national (they don't recognize dual citizenship).

>>128532738

Yeah as fucked up as the immediate result is, that was at least a proper decision of interpreting the law according to precedent rather than making shit up, which is what they usually do.

And the guy went to jail for essentially life for everything else he did, so the absence of a bestiality charge didn't change anything.

>>128532832
She's gone in a year.

>>128532808
>Christians obey God
Catholics obey the Pope.

>>128532915

The solution is to get the fuck out of Ontario before you have kids.

>>128525668
FUCKING

>>128532605
Don't parents have to sign/approve of these trips?
at least this is what they do here

>>128532108
The Catholic Church hordes money. Unlike the Saudis, who have massive amounts of oil money that they spend on spreading Sunni Islam, the Catholic Church sucks up cash, and spends it on feeding Africans or something.

>>128532947

No, we don't. When he preaches ex cathedra on a matter of faith and morals (has happened only twice in history, relating to the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption), then we accept that. Apart from that there is no duty to obey or even agree with what he says.

>>128532836
Alberta is a shithole run by leftists full of Muslims now

ALSO GET IT THROUGH YOUR HALF-INDIAN SKULLS THAT BASING YOUR ECONOMY SOLEY ON ONE INDUSTRY IS A FUCKING RETARDED PLAN

Only non shithole in Albertastan are the mountain border areas

>>128533020
LEAF