Is America a Christian nation /pol/? "In God we trust..."

It really isn't if you want to go the George Washington route. Most of our nation's founders were self professed atheists and agnostics. Keep in mind that these were highly intelligent men who literally built the superpower we know and enjoy today.

>>128513102
Actually they were mostly Christian Deist.

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>>128512835
no

>>128513102
>Most of our nation's founders were self professed atheists and agnostics.

they were scientific occultists

America is an Occult Christian nation

>>128513348
>>128513195
>>128513102
all of you are talking out of your asses, most belonged to the mainstream churches of the time Presbyterians, Quakers, Reformed, Congregationalists, a few Lutherans, etc. a few like Jefferson, or Franklin were noted deists but far, far from the majority have anything deistic attributed to them

>>128512835
Only in the sense that it was founded by people who were mostly Christian. The nation, its laws, and it's governments were secular with the specific intent of preventing a situation like the one which existed in Britain at the time. The founders and citizens did not want the state to have a single approved religion because it invited abuse of power and religious discrimination, something the colonists had left Britain to avoid.

We have Christian influences, practice some Christian holidays, and are still majority Christian, but this nation doesn't belong to Christianity, it belongs to Americans.

>>128513753
Washington was a Deist. He was in the Church of England and Deism was a legitimate theological point of view in the Church of England at the time.

>>128512835
Yes but...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GiAYeWGDTM

>>128513195
This is correct. Anyone saying otherwise had a shitty history teacher.

freedom of religion was such a mistake, how did people in the past not have any foresight?

Should be E Pluribus Unum, this is inarguable.

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>>128513229
yes

>>128514357
>most
>they
>they

even if GW has deistic statements attributed to him does not mean the majority of the founders do. Unlike
>>128514468
believes. The widespread belief in Deism is more of a high school history meme and is certainly not the case of the US

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>>128512835
>>128513229
continued

>>128515116
Fuck off Canada.

>>128512835
Culturally, it was, I think. Their legislation doesn't appeal to God more than just a few times and Common Law has nothing to do with Religion.

>>128512835
>>128513229
>>128514794
>>128514903
America is a Christian Nation

Bp

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>>128515601
But Christians are against faggot marriage.

>>128512835
There's no evidence attributing that quote to Washington:

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q="it+is+impossible+to+rightly+govern"+washington&oq="it+is+impossible+to+rightly+govern"+washington

>>128513195
>>128514468
Then why did they establish Protestant Churches?

>>128512835
Absolutely.

>>128513863
That's how it should be. Government should always be secular.

>>128516461
Because in many of the English Protestant churches Deism was a legitimate theological point of view.

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>>128512835
NO!

FUCK YOU JEW WORSHIPERS!

America is Stoic!

>>128516095
There are Christians who believe in classical liberalism like a lot of our founders and classical liberalism believes in social liberty. There are also Christians who are progressive and libertarian. you are generalizing Christians as being conservative.

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>>128516875
>believing every quote found on internet.

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>>128516875
>>128514794
>>128514903
yes it is.

>>128513753
Why were none of them Catholic

>>128516953
Yes but the vast majority of Christians are against gay marriage. The two largest Christian Churches, the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church, are against it. Conservative Protestants are too. Most Protestants probably are. It's mainly the liberal Anglicans, Lutherans, Methodist, and Reformed Christians who are against it and as said they're not united on the issue as there are many in those groups opposed to it.

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>>128512835

Yes. Pol is also a board with christian values.

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>>128512835
They were definitely Christian Deists, you can tell from reading the documents

>logic and reason-based like atheists
>morals and values like Christians to curb degeneracy

literally the best of both worlds without fedora tipping and bible thumping. Why aren't more people Christian Deists?

G

>>128517510
I said fuck off Canada!

>>12851283
no the founders went out of their way to make this a secular country

in god we trust was added by neocons in the 50s

>>128517207
>they're not united on the issue as there are many in those groups opposed to it

You just proved my point. There are also Christians who don't think it's the job of government to take a stance because dictating the social lives of others is authoritarian/totalitarian. You are basically assuming

>>128517352
>>128517806

Yes it is: >>128514794 >>128514903

>>128517666
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>>128517074

JEW WORSHIPERS ARE ANTI-AMERICAN

CATHOLICS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE WHITE RACE


CATHOLICS ARE THE ENEMY OF NATIONHOOD

MORMONS ARE SICK IN THE HEAD RACE MIXERS

PROTESTANTS ARE POSERS

ORTHODOXY ARE COMMUNISTS

JEWSUS WAS A LYING KIKE -- NOT THE CREATOR OF EXISTENCE

>>128517970
I meant to type its the liberal Anglican, Methodist, Lutherans, and Reformed Christians who are for it but others within them are against it. Accepting fag marriage is opposed to traditional Christianity.

>>128518290

did you even look at these documents:>>128514794
>>128514903

>>128512835

the "in god we trust" was only added because of the russians though

>>128518319
We believe it is a sin but freedom is also a moral concept that cant be ignored (which really shakes things up)

>>128518568
Fair enough.

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>>128516461

none of the founding fathers were protestants. There were some episcopalian ones, deist ones and unitarian ones. espiscalpian is the american term for an angelican and an anglican is a member of the church of england( a non-protestant church). king henry the 8th or whatever the fuck started it because he wanted to marry another woman. The church of england didn't come out of protestantism.

i hate these christian revisionist cucks on the right

America is a secular nation. If it were a Christian nation then there would be peace. America is the least Christian nation.

>>128517666
Nice trips dumb fuck

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>>128512835

>Is America a Christian nation /pol/?

Most of the founding fathers were Diests.

They believed in God as an abstract concept, not as an active force in shaping their lives.

They were well aware of the horrors of the Protestant Reformation and feared Christanity, so they made separation of church and state a foundation of our government.

Pic related.

>>128518885
The Anglican Communion is Protestant. Literally the proper name for the Episcopal church in America is, "The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America."

>>128519235

protestants have communion? isn't that a catholic thing? anglican is just catholicism with slight modications. henry the 8th who started it was a catholic

>>128519429

anglicanism*

>>128518885
Samuel Adams was a Congregationalist

>http://www.adherents.com/people/pa/Samuel_Adams.html

>http://www.oldsouth.org/about/history

>https://books.google.com/books?id=F4N0Yw77lywC&pg=PT139&lpg=PT139&dq=Samuel+Adams+was+a+congregationalist&source=bl&ots=9LfNFvuIT9&sig=uHrntCtmL0GexrVDElUnY3VTiqg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd1c_1u6XUAhUN0IMKHStRBjUQ6AEIWTAH#v=onepage&q=Samuel%20Adams%20was%20a%20congregationalist&f=false

>>128512835

Atheist here. US is a Christian nation. As the documents posted here show, even though the federal government originally was meant to exclude itself from the establishment of religion, the states were entirely free to do so. That's how things work in a federal system. The reasons for doing so were more so borne out of a desire to delegate and separate powers/responsibilities and as such, the central government which largely concerned itself with foreign and interstate matters had no business legislating on issues of faith ( this all changed with the fourteenth amendment ).

Secondly, a fallacious claim such as "self-evident truth" on which the rights of individuals is rooted could only be entertained seriously in a world that took it for granted the existence of a divine creator from which moral absolutes could be derived.

secular freemasonic state but for a long period has had a majority protestant population with a protestant ruling class, so politically religiously indifferent.

>>128519429
You're fucking retarded. I don't mean communion in the Eucharist sense. And in fact, most Protestants do have the Eucharist. Lutherans and Anglicans and Methodist celebrate it on a weekly basis. Reformed and Evangelicals might do it on a monthly basis. Anyway, this is not even what I mean by communion.

I mean communion in the sense that there are a bunch of Churches in full association with each other. The Anglican Communion is the proper name for the Anglican Church because it is made up of multiple different national churches including the Church of England and the Episcopal Church.

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>>128519095
kys faggot.

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>>128519611

samuel adams was a no body founding father. . no body gives a fuck about him.
all the significant ones were either deists or episcopalians.

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>>128513102
>Most of our nation's founders were self professed atheists and agnostics

She actually believes this