were going backwards

>>128500865
most are choices, some are mental disorders, but the media tends to get this backwards.

Homosexuality is a side effect of women's suffrage it was always a very rare instance until that point in time.

I actually have to disagree with you. Homosexuality is absolutely not a choice. If you're straight you probably find it incredibly difficult, if not impossible to get off to a guy, or don't even think of other guys in that way. It's black and white, really. You either like that, or you don't. And it's absolutely something to do with instincts and genetics, somehow, though we don't know how yet.

Look, you either like the same sex or you don't in all reality. Sure, you could say it's a "choice" if someone tries to be gay when in all reality, they don't have those feelings for other men, but there's definitely something there when it comes to attraction and such otherwise.

>If it were a certain gene it would have been eliminated through natural selection thousands of years ago.
And cancer wasn't? Or blindness? Or being born with no limbs? I'm not defending gay shit or discussing the LGBT agenda in anyway, I'm just saying that "natural selection would have removed it so it can't have a genetic component" is fucking stupid.

There's some choice to it, but it's largely hormonal. The testoterone/estrogen balance in the womb has a really strong correlation to sexuality. In fact, the more children a woman has, the more likely the males are to be homosexual because the body naturally produces less testosterone.

Homosexuality could likely be cured through hormone therapies during pregnancy.

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>>128500865

but there's no such thing as a choice.

>>128500865
Since it'd be a recessive gene, not necessary. Genetic deafness is still a thing.

>>128500865
>If it were a certain gene it would have been eliminated through natural selection
>has never heard of beards
>has never heard of closet cases
gr8 h8 b8 m8 0/8

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>>128500865
Gay is an anomalous error created by the "fetish" gene. Basically the desire to fuck weird people and thing and see what sticks. Just like down syndrome its likely to pop up again and again as long as we are sexual creatures. Gays breedign will likely increase and expanse the "fetish" gene. Not necessarily creating more gays but we will definitely see a continued expansion of sexually deviant behavior.

>>128500865
>I don't know how genes and traits work, the thread

Listen faggot, I came here to jerk off to Traps and feel bad about white genocide, not lecture you able biology.

Certain traits do not stop appearing entirely just because they do not make the creature more fit to reproduce. They are random mutations. We see many of these mutations produce identical symptoms. For example, being blind. Many things can get fucked up that result in being born blind. Your brain, your eyes, the tissues that connect them, shit like that. Sexual orientation is like that too. Sometimes the "attracted to men" chemical is produced in a guy when in normally shouldn't.

However, acting like flaming, limp-wristed faggots is totally a choice and they should be seen as the dumb fucks they are if they choose to act that way.

you fail to realize that being gay is a viable mating strategy for beta males. You blow the alpha male then fuck the hot bitches that orbit the alpha while hes not around, thus propagating your genes, whereas if you were a beta loner you would just get no pussy ever.

>>128500865
People with hemophilia weren't able to have children either and that is a known genetic disease. You have a simplistic understanding of genetics.

Children are being made soft systematically and are now begging to have their cocks lopped off in order to fit into the matriarchy.

The pussy must be taken from the pedestal and dethroned.

>>128500865
You obviously lack any knowledge of this subject...there is a lot of evidence to suggest it is the mothers immune system that impacts the transcription of certain genes....some hypothesise it happens so that the family as a whole doesn't experience a shortage of resources and so the gay is a coping mechanism

>>128500865
nah homosexuals are narcissistic therefore will fuck a women just to have a spitting image of himself.

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>>128504072
WTF?

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>>128500865
What if all the pets I had were bisexual because they would fuck anything before they got their balls cut off?

It seems like all sexuality is a choice of who you can stand to fuck with.

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>out to college
>no girly action
>beating off just isnt cutting it anylonger
>try to find hookup
>W4M is all scams
>click M4M for the hell of it
>1000 listings of guys wanting college loads
>a hole is a hole
>tfw too smart to be straight

>>128504333
Checked

This sums it up. I read about the recent study on gay people. They looked at family trees of many people. Trees which are completely straight and trees with gay people in them. What they found was that the family trees that have gay people also have many more children in general. This is why the gay gene persists.

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>>128504548
Too many women in schools

Too much sit down and shut

Too much glitter on cover page increase grades

Too many schools pretending they give a fuck beyond their over the top pay and benefits.

Too many single moms.

Too many parent wanting to be snowflakes through their kids

Not enough hands on learning

Sexuality being forced on kids when they will do anything for approval and positive responses.

Too many childless people threatening, sabotaging and reporting shit they don't understand about parenting.

>>128505437
Enjoy your AIDS

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>>128500865
1. Gays in the past have often reproduced. A wife and children was just something you got as part of your life. Homosexuality wasn't a lifestyle yet.
2. Gays can be beenficial to the tribe. Having one or two of 50 adults gay means those adults can devote all their time in rearing the children of the tribe, to wich they're related.
3. Being gay can mean the individual has lots of time to learn a craft. In ancient times that could have meant the tribe had the best tool maker or clothes maker of the region. Therefore valuable tradegoods. More trade, more resources for the children, more strangers coming to the village, more potential to spread genes far.
4. A possible gay gene could be beneficial in other ways. The gene could make fags out of your male offspring, but make your daughters super horny and have lots of offspring. See huge chins, good for male offspring, rather bad for female offspring.
5. Genes that cause gayism could react differently to environmental effects that exist only in modernity. Meaning the same genes could activate in a different way in times past.
6. Gayness could be the result of a combination of different genes, of which every single gene has other, beneficial effects. Thus the genes making people gay themselfes will not be selected against and can be combined into the full fag set in each generation.
7. The degeneracy /pol/ criticizes in gays is a modern thing. Promiscuity, drug abuse, STDs and a gay lifestyle is just not possible when humans don't live in giant mega cities. Most of human history played out in small tribal structures.
8. Human sexuality is not set in stone. Bisexuality exists. It may be that the full gay package is a bunch of bisexual genes, who, again, are beneficial in their stand alone forms.

It's appaling how poorly /pol/ understands basic evolution.

>>128500865

It's a like depression. Biologically it doesn't make sense and you can hardly cure it.

>>128500865
I sincerely hope you don't unironically believe this.

>>128503820
This
OP's opening premise is predicated on an assumption that is patently false therefore the rest of the argument is rubbish.

>>128500865
According to a theory I've heard homosexuality is caused by a pathogen. The pathogen mutates, and because of this humans cannot become fully immune.

>>128500865
you might be going backwards but i'm not

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It may also be the chemicals in the water.

>>128503868
Why would you like to cure it, dont we already have enough people in this planet? At least faggots dont breed and contribute to society.

>>128508384
I don't want a gay son.

>>128504366
They just do it to call atention. As a faggot myself i hate those fucking idiots.

>>128500865
It's not a gene.. It's a defect in a gene.

>>128500865
>If it were a certain gene it would have been eliminated through natural selection thousands of years ago.
I can't speak for the neanderthal part, but how does this work? You're acting like gay people haven't spent years trying to pass off as straight and keep their faggotry under wraps. There are so many closet faggots that act like the straightest guy in the world because they don't want society to ostracize them.

>>128508826
in an evolutionary perspective there are no defects in genes, just mutations. No gene is better than other when it comes to the reproduction not of the individual, but the genes. There is a theory that says homosexual males( fuck lesbians) are good in emotional support for they relatives and so they help their genes to pass to another generation.
sorry for no sauce

>>128508486
Why?

>>128503126
How do you explain people developing their sexual kinks after they get bored of regular intercourse?

It's doubtful anyone started with the Brazilian fart porn fetish.
I reckon you become more degenerate along the way.

>>128503126
How do explain the majority of gays being raped as a child?

>>128500865

It's possible that it could be caused by what happens in the womb. So it's not genetic, but still biological. perhaps the fetus doesn't get enough testosterone during brain development

>>128500865
/pol/ has it all wrong.
sure i can fuck a dude and get off, its not impossible. the same way i can fuck a slice of ham or some lubed up banana. but do i prefer it or really want to? no, not really. its not anywhere on the list of things i think about everyday or want to do.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-aeSRx3J91U

>>128504331
gay people do infact fuck girls. mountains of evidence of these cases.

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>>128500865
even if it werent genetic it still wouldnt be a choice.

You cant choose who you're attracted to you fucking moron. If you could it would only make sense to choose to be attracted to fat girls so its easier to score but you cant choose it so you find them repulsive

>>128504333
sexually deviant behavior is culture based. a concept and not natural. same as polygamy and monogamy. its just concepts and abstract. like marrage.

you can have offspring and still fuck everything that moves.

>>128500865
Here's the real redpill behind gayism


It's natural, 100% but not for the reasons the leftist say.

Nature has failsafes in the genetic code, where if it detects the person or their offspring specifically have genetic triggers for some bad bad shit, like high risk of Parkinsons or downs etc, their genetics start early and wire the hormones and brain development into making the individual not want to reproduce, or in severe cases, remove their fucking genitals.

Monkey's have been observed literally eating their own dicks off and shit. These gay animals always are fucked up in the head.

So, you ever notice how gay people all have that annoying shrill faggoty voice? Another one of nature's helpers. It's designed to literally annoy the fuck out of normal human's and make them stay away, also preventing the chance of this person having babies of any kind.

People who can stand being around this voice, likely also have something wrong with them and may also be prone to issues and gaysim themselves.

Being gay is a complex, natural self implemented soft eugenics system designed to try and curb the desire to reproduce in human's with potentially problematic genes.

Gayism is increasing, because more people are fucked up now than ever, with food and environmental reasons.

>>128500865
>If it were a certain gene it would have been eliminated through natural selection thousands of years ago
Not if it were not supressed through culture. My gay grandfather sired like 6 six. As gay as pride parade. Had three wives and six kids.

Of course, were be a modern man, he wouldn't feel the need to hide his inclinations behind a moist curtain.

>>128500865
Homosexuality is a mental disorder, not wrong or immoral.

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>>128500865
Genes aren't eliminated. They are epigenetically switched on or off. Generationally they can be harder to switch on or off based on how long they've been one way. Sexual preference develops in the pre optic hypothalamus, in which this genetic coding needs very specific and minute detail nutritionally and informationally speaking, and in today's world with dog shit nutrition - nutritionless soil, fast food, processed food, etc. mother's don't get the right things to put into their bodies for proper development.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3008-homosexuality-is-biological-suggests-gay-sheep-study/
http://www.bu.edu/thenerve/archives/spring-2010/reviews-spring-2010/homosexuality/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7560933

Unfortunately due to the nature of this post, being its high intellectual requirements for comprehension and raw importance regarding how true it is, it will be shit on and denied. But at least I tried.

>>128508384
Seriously what have they contributed to society that isn't degeneracy?

If it wasn't stigmatized that may be true but since gay people had to fake being straight and that includes taking wives and having children the gene has festered far to long. Clearly we should just accept it and let the problem solve itself.

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>>128500865
it's not a gene, it's a cromisome and science

>>128511549
>It's designed
you support evolution while stating that genes are designed from the get go?
????
theres no scientific evidence that dna aquires new information over time or loses it.

>>128500865
>If it were a certain gene it would have been eliminated through natural selection thousands of years ago.

Wrong. There are gay animals, it's just a mutation, it's either harmless or creates some favorable social breeding situation for the whole (male members that seek to promote the well-being of the group but without competing for mates) depending on how you spin it

It's just that academia has suppressed or rejected the proof of it for a long time due to prudishness and ignorance, just like how we're only now admitting that a large number of animals masturbate and engage in non-reproductive sex.

>>128513155
some genes are gone - otherwise we would still have all genes of all ancestors ever and a gigantic genome

>>128513174
turning machine
wireless technology
marxism

>>128513174
Alan Turing for example, he was the father of modern computers and homosexual.

>>128513917
OK. I'll actually secede in that. GIVE ME two to three things homosexuals have contributed to society!

>>128514712
They ARE part of society, they dont just appeared out of nowhere and asked if they could get buttfucked and act flamboyant

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>>128500865
I'm still just wondering what replacing mecca with diamond ore is supposed to symbolize. Also how someone can fuck up the proportions on a simple cube so badly.

>>128500865
Not necessarily. Theoretically it could be useful for a group to spawn a gay every now and then, who doesn't compete for women but helps with the kids, food or other troubles, and thus increasing the effectiveness of a group without reproducing.

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>>128510241