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Hitler would have been against the alt-right

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I'm reading Mein Kampf for the first time (inb4 LARPer) and I came across some interesting passages where he discusses fanaticism and having unity of goals. He does a pretty good job describing what sounds like the alt-right, ie, "big tent movements made of many different movements".Then he promptly rips it to shreds as "a hothouse plant," that grows quickly but doesn't achieve anything of value -- that it "puts quantity over quality, and thus fails". Hitler advocated a fanaticism that the alt-right seems to look down on as "LARPing". Seems like a lot of alt-right people around here, and they think of themselves as "stealthy National Socialists", so I was curious what they'd say about this. (see Pages 233-235):

>"Movements which have expanded from the union of similar organizations, where each made compromises to achieve the joining, are like plants grown in a hot-house. They shoot up quickly, but they lack internal strength and are not substantial enough to stand the test
of time or to resist violent storms. The greatness of any powerful organization, which embodies an idea in this world, depends on the absolutely religious fanaticism with which it establishes itself when compared to others. It must be fanatically convinced that it is right and just, and it must be absolutely intolerant of any idea or organization that is counter to its own teaching. If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it."

https://nationalactionlondon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/adolf-hitler-mein-kampf-ford-translation.pdf
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Hitler fucking died.
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The alt right is literally babies first right wing ideology
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>>128494822
Yeah, the same year FDR did. Every leader alive 70 years ago is dead now.
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>>128495169
Why do you think the alt-right is so against "fanaticism"? Is it a millennial thing against looking like you care too much about anything?
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>>128495435
I don't think the climate is in a place where people are willing to display "fanaticism" in that direction. It's kind of like the Beer Hall Putsch, you can't do or act in certain ways unless a large enough people support it. That's how I see it at least.
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>>128495952
That makes sense, but after talking to people who consider themselves alt-right here and on DS, it seems much deeper than that. I've never heard such hatred of anything open and honest being treated as "LARPing" before. It's like their favorite word,like they literally despise you for not trying to hide your beliefs or for being ACTUALLY National Socialist. They want something they can hide, and they hate people who don't hide who they are. Its fucking creepy and I want to explain it.
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>>128493985
is Mein Kampf prohibited in the US?
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>>128496509
No, we still have laws preventing that. No literature is banned here by law. When they say "banned" books, they usually mean public schools dont teach them.
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>>128496377
Hmm, well I can't explain that. Your guess is good as mine for why they act that way
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>>128497061
I was hoping some of them would be brave enough to tell us, but I guess not.
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>>128496509
Not yet. We still need to clean the Marxist filth out of our government and universities or it might be one day.
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Did the mods anchor this thread? I haven't seen it bump the entire time.
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>>128493985
Hitler lost. He wasn't right about everything.
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Bumping for visibility
This is why true NatSocs hate the Alt-Lite/Alt-Right
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>>128497256
I've never condemned the so-called LARPers, but a lot of people have strange ideas about how the movement is supposed to work, and come up with paranoid theories about how anyone who actually says what we're all thinking is actually a plant or controlled opposition.

See the total retardation surrounding TRS and Richard Spencer, and they're not even THAT extreme.
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>the Nazis and the ss weren't fanatics

riiiiiiiiighttttt
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>>128498452
>Hitler lost.
lol everybody "loses" in the end, anon. Every system collapses eventually. Ancient Greece, Persia, Sparta, the Qing Dynasty, the Ottoman Empire-- they all "lose" eventually. Everything dies someday. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but we fought that war so we could be destroyed by the same cancer he was fighting to overcome; we didn't "win" anything.
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>>128498795
No, they were fanatics, did you even read the OP?
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The movement is sullied by decadent ironic nihilists who call anyone serious about their beliefs "LARPing", these cancerous elements should be weeded out
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Hitler would be disgusting by the nazi larpers nowdays but most of them are just edgy teens or degenerate tatted convicts anyway
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>>128498595
Hitler would have never sucked Carl Marx's sock like Richard Spencer does on Twitter
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>>128499221
Is this a pasta?
>Hitler would be disgusted
I think he would be more concerned with what's happening to the entire race, not whether someone had bad taste in clothing.
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>>128498595
We've got a lot of fucking losers who need to be stepped on before we make progress.
People who derive paranoid conspiracies about "controlled opposition" are ones.
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>>128499221
There are true brothers who believe Hitler and understand Mein Kampf and what National Socialism stood for

Be that we may be a minority, we are growing stronger every day. For separate and few we are today; but one day will come when we stand many as one
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>>128493985
The white nationalist movement has been "pure" for the past 60 years. It hasn't gotten anywhere in america.
People who advocate for things in america that clearly violate the letter and spirit of the constitution are idiots. They're never going to get anywhere because the idea of implementing their ideas here is so far at odds with practical reality that the only explanation is that they're not serious. They're larping.

It's better for them, and for everyone, to form a coalition based on policies that we can all agree upon.
Everybody likes a border wall. Let's push for that together.
Calling both civic nationalists, and white nationalists "alt right" was a CNN invention. It's an intentional misnomer meant to marginalize their opponents.
Ironically, Spencer himself won't correct this mislabeling because it bring HIM personal benefit in the here and now and the expense of both movements. He's been on CNN multiple times and has never mentioned anything about this distinction.
This is just one of the reasons that Spencer is so (rightly) hated here on /pol/.
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>>128498814
>Every system collapses eventually.

Yea but how often is it that it ends with its founder putting a gun in his mouth and blowing his brain out?
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>>128498595
>come up with paranoid theories about how anyone who actually says what we're all thinking is actually a plant or controlled opposition.
>>128499626
>People who derive paranoid conspiracies about "controlled opposition" are ones
I dont know what particular examples you guys are thinking of, but a little bit of "paranoia" about that is healthy don't you think? There is a long history of infiltrators, people turned snitches, and Jews pretending to be white. Like Frank Colin (Cohen), who turned out to be Jewish and a pedophile.

https://youtu.be/XZEowN0Dios
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>>128499497
>be American
>identify yourself by a decade long reign in Europe that happened nearly a century ago and got BTFO
>fall for honeypot storm groups
>follow well known natsoc leaders which are entirely made up of Jewish shills
>everyone in your fringe group are edgy teens, degenerate convicts, and methheads
>think you are living anything close to what hitler wanted
top kek m8 at least euros have an excuse to larp like it's 14/88 again
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>leader of an 11 year regime that was destroyed by communists who couldn't even afford guns
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>>128500190
Maybe every time the world banking cartel sends 5 countries after that leader, and the remaining 3 manage to destroy him. You're smart enough to realize what a nonsense argument that is, right?
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>>128500041
>People who advocate for things in america that clearly violate the letter and spirit of the constitution are idiots
>>128500479
>People who advocate for things in america that clearly violate the letter and spirit of the constitution are idiots.
Why is there an echo in here? Are these people bots?
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>>128500041 #
>The white nationalist movement has been "pure" for the past 60 years. It hasn't gotten anywhere in america.
>People who advocate for things in america that clearly violate the letter and spirit of the constitution are idiots. They're never going to get anywhere because the idea of implementing their ideas here is so far at odds with practical reality that the only explanation is that they're not serious. They're larping.
This is why true NatSocs are working to plan a way back to their ethnic homelands. National Socialism would never work in America because we have the (((Constitution))); it is an outdated document that was written for a different world than what we have today. T was good to create a stable ethnocentric society but now that we have stalled the Marxist pill of Multiculturalism, there is no going back. Multiculturalism was the fall of Rome: it will be the fall of America as well
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>>128493985
Hitler's ideal would basically be Islam.
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>>128493985
If we had a competent leader we would be a lot more unified. We were pretty unified during the election, but that's gone away because Trump's approval on /pol/ is about 50%. Our leader won't be any of the big alt right people like Spencer or Enoch, because Spencer talks like a faggot and you can always dismiss TRS for the Mike's wife fiasco. We need a leader who knows what the fuck he's doing and can unify us.
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>>128500933
>Hitler would be against national socialists today
>Hitler would have been pro-Islam
We're going to here every shill meme on the list, prepare yourselves.
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>>128500826
Rothschild funded secession by the Founding Fathers
You didn't really believe they were wealthy enough to create their own country did you?
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>>128500933
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>>128501084
>Rothschild funded secession by the Founding Fathers
I've heard this before, and I can see how it might make sense, but never seen evidence. Is there any evidence of Rothschild involvement in the founding of the US? Like HARD evidence, not just conjecture and guessing.
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>>128501071
You don't know what true National Socialist believe then. Have you even read Mein Kampf? (Hitler would have still hated Islam though)
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>>128500933
Yeah hitler would be for terrorism, he'd say we deserve it for being weak and we should embrace it.
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>>128500041
You won't have the constitution without white people. The vast majority of non-whites don't give a shit about our lofty ideas of individual liberties and freedom of man.
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>>128493985
he was right just like /pol
always right
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>>128501343
You can be a white nationalist and not be a nazi larper.
There are ways to promote white identity/community that aren't at odds with the constitution.
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>>128501336
So I guess Hitler kicked puppies and hated kids too!?
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Hitler was a genocidal retard and his awful behavior is what gave leftists the excuse they needed to convince western countries to abolish themselves. Fuck Hitler.
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>>128501639
>Aren't at odds with the Constitution
You mean the document that has been so bastardized by Marxism it doesn't even represent the vision of the Founding Fathers?
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>>128499833
I agree, and I don't disagree with the idealogy but it will never gain traction as long as natsoc keeps following shill leaders that encourage them to go full 1488 and reject anyone that partially agrees with them. no movement has ever grown without useful idiots, the nazi fags are stabbing them in the back before they gain power, instead of after, and it's because they fall for the shills.
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>>128501317
>Hitler would be against national socialists today
>Hitler would have been pro-Islam
>Then you've never read Mein Kampf (no page numbers mentioned or paragraphs quoted)
Yeah, I explain that in the OP you didn't read. The one time in the whole book that he mentions Islam, he says that Christian missionaries failed to out-compete Islam is spreading across the world. Which is objectively true, Islam did spread across more of the globe than Christianity.
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>>128501304
I've only seen a few YouTube videos from back in the day that had legit sources; I never cared to look into it much because I was always more interested in studying Hitler and Nazi Germany
Check YouTube; in sure there are some videos that haven't gotten Shoah'd yet
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>>128496377
FBI agents
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>>128501336
We DO deserve it for being weak. Until we find the strength to destroy our oppressors we deserve every humiliation the can toss at us. Nature's reward for weakness is extinction.
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>>128501936
>You mean the document that has been so bastardized by Marxism it doesn't even represent the vision of the Founding Fathers?

It's clear that nazi germany is neither what the founding fathers had in mind nor what the marxists have in mind.
If you want white nationalism in america, you need to modify your message to be in line with the spirit of our country.
Even if the marxists have edited the meaning, the spirit of it is still in there. You can appeal to that.
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>>128493985
Yet he was elected by forming a coalition of Religious Socialists, Veteran Nationalists and Fascists...
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>>128496377
only T_D faggots call themselves alt-right. jews try to label us alt-right. fuck the right and the left. who the fuck is there to rally behind? bannon is the only one.
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>>128502172
Having respect for Islam ≠ "I think Islam is better than Christianity"
I'm a born and raised Christian and I have more respect for Islam than I do for modern Protestants; at least they fight for something. American Christians clock in on Sunday, drop their change at the door, and clock back out until the next one
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>>128496377
the thing they fear most is being called racist
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>>128502321
See >>128500901
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>>128498595
anyone that says they are speaking for autistic faggots on 4chan is controlled opposition. spencer is a faggot commie. some YTers are ok but never name the jew.
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>>128502246
That only makes sense in countries where the FBI has no jurisdiction. It's not illegal to be a national socialist in the US. It's illegal to commit crimes, but being a national socialist is protected speech. I guess kids these days don't really know what's legal and what isn't. They hear they should be afraid of the FBI on Mongolian wedding cake forums, and they just believe it without checking facts.

https://youtu.be/DFLITCSD6Ds

>>128502551
>I'm Christian but I have respect for a pedo religion
Nice try Muhammad, no one believes that shit.
>inb4 fake quote
www.patheos.com/blogs/marginoferr/2014/07/20/yes-khomeini-has-really-endorsed-pedophilia/
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>>128493985
Yeah, but try proving it to le MAGApedes xD

Extremists always defeat the moderates.
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>>128502172
Hitler wanted true masculinity back: one that valued masculine qualities such as fraternity, strength, and resolve

Nazi Germany would was what would have been Islam if it was founded on the Bible. But because they worship a false god of hate and not the true God of love: a true society such as National Socialism will never exist in a country based on Sharia and Taquiyya
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>>128500901
>>128502705

Ya I agree with him that that's a possibility. I don't have anything to say about it really.
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>>128502869
>Nice try Muhammad
LOL WTF??
I'm not the one advocating for Islam here faggot

t. 100% ethnic European
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>>128500901
kys larping faggot.
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>>128495229
>Every leader alive 70 years ago is dead now.
Cept the queen
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>>128503192
(That was me)
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>>128502932
but extremists need to use the moderates to win any power, this is where it is failing. separating yourselves from moderates before you hold power is a grave mistake, it's only successful when you use the useful idiots (moderates) to win, but instead the naziboo autists kick and scream when someone only partially agrees with them
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>>128503352
>I'm a born and raised Christian and I have more respect for Islam than I do for modern Protestants; at least they fight for something
Yeah, they fight for pedophilia, slavery, and the death of the world. Disgusting.
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>>128503393
>Assblasted lolbertarian/cuckstitutionalist
OMG why are you guys this obvious? Lmao
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>>128503460
this guy gets it
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>>128503409
>The Queen is a leader
I guess the mast head on the ship is the captain, since everyone follows behind it.
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>>128503580
I meant in the sense you posted and Hitler believed
That they actually do a better job at conversions than Christians often do

Can't you even not into critical argumentation?
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>>128496509
I was nine years old the first time I read Mein Kampf. I checked it out from the local library.
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>>128493985
it's ironic because the NSDAP was a coalition of multiple interests and it collapsed in on itself in less than a generation because he ended up compromising on his own beliefs, from Stasserism which wanted to go beyond the Sweden-style Socialism that Hitler implemented, to negotiating with moronic generals from the Prussian era who struggled to understand the mindset of their own troops


>>128500933
He outright praised it.
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This is not an alt-right board, it's a natsoc board.
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>>128495229
no the guy that was the king of Romania during ww2 and who sided with the Axis is still alive.
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>>128503410

I see. Well I don't see it as completely hopeless for the US... but certainly it seems like a tough road ahead.
I think there are ways to undo it. Promoting white birth rates, stopping immigration, paying people to leave the US.... etc.
These things are all possible if we have a swing to a right wing mentality in the near future.
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>>128502375
>only T_D faggots call themselves alt-right

You mean TRS.
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Shills get out reeeee
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>>128493985

>The greatness of any powerful organization, which embodies an idea in this world, depends on the absolutely religious fanaticism with which it establishes itself when compared to others. It must be fanatically convinced that it is right and just, and it must be absolutely intolerant of any idea or organization that is counter to its own teaching. If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it."

...This describes Islam pretty well
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>>128503844
>He outright praised it.
Once, to the Mufti of Jerusalem while asking him to take more Jews. He then said "If Islam had been sucessful at Tours, Germanics would have taken over all of Islam." You mudslimes try to hard to push the Hitler was Muslim meme.
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>>128498561
This
Also i hate dohnalderino but love Assad
bros who else loves Assad?

Anyway i wanted to discuss something else. Is it just me or a lot of NatSocs are truly socialists? Only dumb ameriturds always hate NatSoc for being Socialist. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think the future NatSoc movement should be progressive - not in the sense of social decadency but in the sense of quick changes if need be and it should be adaptable(everything for the people tho) I hate NRxers almost as much as libruls. Change must happen, there's no way to prevent it. Sometimes you need to revert reforms if they are bad but just being conservative
>never change anything!
tard is really bad.
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>>128503580
>Yeah, they fight for pedophilia,

How old was Mary when Yahweh impregnated her? Did he ask first?

>slavery

The Bible clearly permits slavery and urges slaves to obey their masters as they obey Christ.

>and the death of the world.

Does the Bible not foretell an apocalypse? Not as an avoidable tragedy but as the desirable culmination of human history, and final day of judgement?
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>>128502348
>by forming a coalition of
people who became National Socialists when their movements disappeared. Last man standing was Natsoc, anon.
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>>128504352
>How old was Mary when Yahweh impregnated her? Did he ask first?
I KNEW YOU WERE A FUCKING HAJJI YOU FAGGOT.
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>>128503930
I think we are too far gone man
We sided with the wrong side in WWII and Marx has existed as a ghost ever since. The Russians may have lost the Cold War, but they won the war of minds in America (using the KGB)
I don't see it happened unless a complete purge+Civil war breaks out

America was founded on the same fanatical principles as NatSoc (hang the traitors in the streets) but unfortunately America was never fanatical enough to go through with it thanks to a comfy capitalistic non-sacrificial lifestyle

https://youtu.be/5It1zarINv0
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>>128503460
Not true at all. I would rather lose in any case. Humanist civnats are worse than leftists.
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>>128501084
There isn't, it's the fantasies of ellis island yuropoors that came here and resent anglos.
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>>128504352
(((OYYYYY VEEYYYYY)))
Why do you suck little baby boy peepee Schlomo?
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>>128504524

So you're just going to lose your mind and scream nonsense when I point out an instance of fatal self-contradiction in your argument?
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>>128504773

I'm not Jewish, and calling people Jews is not the same as a rebuttal.
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funny thing is he would be against /pol/ too, they would be so heartbroken, nazi larping faggets
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>>128504793
>muh old testament
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>>128504793
I'm going to call out obvious shills, yes. Your semitic religions are pedophilia death cults.
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>>128504850
>I'm not Jewish, but there is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish
Pic related Aaron, it's you
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>>128504934

...Are you seriously suggesting Yahweh impregnates Mary in the OT? Where is your handler? Do they know you're having unsupervised computer time?
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>>128503460
'useful idiots' is really only applied to leftists
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>>128500190
>im just pretending to be retarded
What else could he do? Go to trial or what? Where they would degrade him and maybe with torture make him say something that would bury National Socialism forever? Fuck you
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>>128504587
then you'll get your wish. enjoy living in a cultural shithole like my country within the decade.
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>>128505018

So you're not even going to attempt a rebuttal then. Ok, you lose.
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>>128505045
Are you seriously suggesting that God had consensual sex with Mary in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation?
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>>128504060
>one passage in the book sounds like Islam
>doesn't read rest of the book
>"Shit! Must be Islam!"
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>>128500195
I don't get it? What did he do wrong? (other than being a filthy kike)
That beginning part seemed like pretty effective political agitation. I especially like "If your not willing to do die for your ideas you don't really believe in them". Much better than any of you low test pussies could manage.
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>>128505188
>implying you even had an argument
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>>128505285

You know, you're right. What did Hitler have to say about Islam?

>"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[5]

>According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
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>>128496377
Because your strategy fails every time. Rockwell is more charismatic than any modern national socialist figure and he still couldn't do it. What people want is a way to reverse the marxist infiltration by doing their own NatSoc infiltration. National Socialists who think they just need to be loud and proud about their beliefs are no threat, but NatSocs who hide their beliefs and infiltrate the system to make changes that's who they fear.
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>>128505378

I did, it was here: >>128504352

If you really forgot that quickly, you might have brain problems.
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>>128505366
>What did he do wrong? (other than being a filthy kike)
Lying about being a kike while leading a movement to get rid of kikes. Also, going to jail for pedophilia.
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>>128505473
>citing the (((tabletalks)))
JIDF detected
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>>128505548
Yeah, your right there. But he was doing a better job than the goys haha
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>>128500041
>muh constitution
If a constitution is more important to white Americans than their race, then you will go extinct, it is only a matter of time.
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>>128505089
just because commies gave it a name doesn't mean it hasn't existed throughout history. for an example look at any election/revolution ever, and their supporters that get fucked over after every election/revolution when they found out their platform was bullshit.
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>>128505543
>All these arguments
Mordecai plz
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>>128505598

What sources do you personally approve of?
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>>128503352
Nice shop.

Hat could probably use more fade
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>>128505706

I gave you a chance, but you blew it. In you go.
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>>128505148
The thing is, we have different definitions of "win". I want balkanization. Voting people in just reinforcing democracy.
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>>128493985
https://vid.me/S5hj
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>>128505769
>If I keep saying BTFO I win
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>>128505787
>I hate the EU so I'm going to make a mini EU out of Eastern Europe
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>>128504103
Wishful thinking.
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>>128505529
>Because your strategy fails every time.
Hitler being my example?
> NatSocs who hide their beliefs and infiltrate the system to make changes that's who they fear.
"Hiding your beliefs to infiltrate the system" is an interesting unicorn favored by those who don't actually want to risk anything for their supposed beliefs. The reason it never works is that "the system" is extremely efficient at filtering such moles, and co-opting the true believers. You watch too much television if you think you're going to be "a closet Nazi" all the way into the Directorship of the CIA, surrounded by cultural Marxists, being tasked with violating your beliefs left and right for 30 years, without anyone noticing or you snapping from schizophrenia. Its a fantasy-- and it makes you the true LARPer. Reality functions differently than your comic book fantasies.
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>>128505713
Ones without Jewish authors Lentil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1XJ6ZBlZHM
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>>128500190
>He still believes Hitler killed himself
SINGLE KEK
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>>128493985
No shit? The "alt right" are just conservatives running around with memes.
You're either alt right or a Fascist/National Socialist.
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>>128506176
>don't try changing the system from within, just publicize your beliefs and be proud of it
If you think Hitler's ascension can be repeated in America, you're a retard. Both the demographic and cultural environments are completely different. Like always the 88 holds back the 14, this is why you're the larpers. Hitler worshipers are an anchor to those who want to save the white race.
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>>128504409
Bingo. The NSDAP wasn't a big tent party. Revolution was inevitable in Weimar Germany and either the nazis or the communists were going to lead it. The nazis were seen as the lesser of two evils.
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ultimately the book means nothing. in the end, the germans handed him total power, and his mood swings and whims became german law. It was completely arbitrary and senseless. There was no coherent philosophy, just madness and barbarism. You never want to wish for one man to have total power like that, no matter what he says.
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>>128506899
You're going to be called a Hitlerite Nazis for the 14 words, you know.
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>>128506110
You realize that's not what I mean right?

Also nice tumblrina gif.
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Did our /pol/ leader ever come out and say we are "alt-right"

Oh wait, there is no leaders here we are all individuals who all have the same right to post. No matter what the view point and no matter where you are from.

Except Canada fuck leafs.
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>>128506899
Might as well go all in
You're already being called a Racist Nazi so why not just accept the label
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Gee, it kind of sounds exactly like Islam. No wonder he liked the muzzies.

Nazis were cucks to Mohammed all along!
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>>128506899
>forgetting RedPanel's other comics
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>>128505787
you're right and after I replied I saw your flag, i was talking more about Americans. Euros actually have a chance to pull it off if they act within the next couple of years. after that it will be too late. In the US it's been too late for 50 years now. I wish you and your country all the best. just keep in mind there are many divide and conquer shills and jewish natsoc honeypots and (((leaders))) online. focus on your nation don't fall for these so called leaders and American run natsoc sites, they only exist to control any actual movement
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>>128506899
>If you think Hitler's ascension can be repeated in America, you're a retard.
If you studied the enemy, to see how cultural marxists took over the system after the war, you would have noticed that they did so loudly, in broad daylight, with the consent of the powerful, because the war cemented Western leftism into place institutionally. The "long march through the intitutions" wasn't grass roots, it was astroturf. If you bothered to study NS/Fascist movements that came to power before that, you'd realize they did so the same way: by looking the strongest, by being visible, by seeming "overwhelming" in the public eye-- with the sponsorship of powerful conservatives already in power. The vast majority of people are sheep, lemmings who follow whoever they think is in control (or about to take it). Maybe you should ACTUALLY study these things, instead of just listening to podcasts, sitting on your ass, letting fat drunkards on the internet tell you "their master plan that no one ever thought of this is totally new and we're geniuses that's why we're on this podcast". kek what a fucking joke.
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>>128507264
Keep the Balkans separate
I'd like to keep my Romania just Romania
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>>128507136
>>128507305
>people call me x, therefore I need to be x
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>>128503844
>Sweden-style Socialism
that's literally just social democracy
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>>128507612
>he thinks he'll be effective as an alt-liter
Stay mad /PlebTierGeneral/
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>>128507570
That's not what "Balkanization" means
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>>128496377
>They want something they can hide, and they hate people who don't hide who they are. Its fucking creepy and I want to explain it.
I don't think that it's the desire to keep a secret is something creepy. In times like these the light is everywhere thanks to the internet. My suggestion is that this urges people to heat the thing that is hidden up until it has taken its complete shape and can break free into the world. The issue is for whatever the new right stands for isn't complete, can't be fully formulated, yet. More time has to pass before a full grown beast can emerge from the darkness. Sorry, I'm way too lazy to give a longer ebin occultist ranz.
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>>128507264
>>128507806
Oh shit
I just realized what Balkanization means
I'm an idiot

JUST
>KILLMYSELF
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>>128507751
If you love larping so much, then just move to Europe. Conservatives in America will never support National Socialism. They didn't in the past, and they certainly won't do so in the future. White nationalism on the other hand, is what this country was founded on.
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>>128507819
If the tipping point of gaining power is projecting that you already are powerful in the minds of the sheeple, then whatever opportunity you're waiting for to achieve that is never going to come while you hide and let the masses think you're weak and almost non-existent. That's a great business model for cultivating podcast consumers. Its not a successful movement model.You have to be seen challenging power, or your moment never comes. Anyone telling you to remain hidden is therefore "sheep dogging" you, whether intentionally or not. They are enforcing the desire of the system by keeping you silent and passive.
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>>128507136
a) The biggest damage for the 14 was done to it via it's association with the 88. In fact, if I hadn't known better, I'd say that the 14/88 is an insidious psyop. This is a battle of hearts and minds - and to capture the center, the cause of preserving white people needs to be put in front. No hate, no bullshit dressup as a nazi. Just a simple goal of preserving white ethnicities, a goal that every normal person, white or not, can get behind

>>128507305
because the point is to win, not to sort out relationships with the undecided centrists.
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>>128508065
>He thinks I'm LARPing
I don't LARP like you do you little faggot underage Kekistani: see >>128500901

>LMAO @ UR PATHETIC EXISTENCE M80
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>>128507988
Eh, whatever. As long as you remember it from now on.
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>>12850806
Just give it up, Schlomo.
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>>128508377
>>128500901
Just leave America, go to Europe.
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>>128508065
>They didn't in the past

Americans in the past didn't even know what it was and they still can't explain it today, just like how we have a few lolbergs calling it Marxist Socailism on /pol/.

The american people were always told by jews like Churchill that nazis were evil
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>>128508604
Socialism*
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>>128508337
>1488 would do better without the 88
>Working together with the lemmings will be fun they said
People calling Trump literally Hitler we right: that's why people voted for him. We got back stabbed and all we got now is a kike-puppet

If you're not willing o double down on the 88, true National Socialists can't trust you

And if NS don't trust you, I'm gon shoot
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>>128498452
He lost because he got ganged up on.
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>>128508604
If you love Hitler so much, why do you got to Europe?
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>>128493985
>128493985
Good thing we're not the alt-right.
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>>128508065
>>128508604
>American conservatives will never support X
They said the same thing in Germany once. Our conservatives are liberal pieces of shit anyway, they'll support whatever protects their profits.
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>>128506899
you're right, look at all the triggered naziboo replies you got. only Europeans have a reason to larp as nazis, it has nothing to do with American history or culture and will always remain a laughable fringe group full of honeypot groups and literal jew "leaders" in the land of 52%
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>>128508858
*don't you go
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If you aren't a fanatic in your cause, than you don't possess the blind belief that you can achieve that cause, and that blind belief gives you the nessecary motivation to carry it out. Without fanaticism, your motivation simply wouldn't be enough
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>>128508858
>implying America isn't a racially and culturally European nation
Do I see a nose protruding from behind that post?
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>>128508589
>Just.. just leave me alone meanie!
>Being this assblasted
Um, sweetie, you have to go back
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>>128493985
If the alt-right is the "based black men" and the magapedes, yeah, everyone here hates the alt-right.
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>>128508945
If Hillary was elected and stayed in power for 8 years, then you would get someone that would make Hitler seem like a puppy in comparison.
You know these people come as reactions.
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>>128493985
One must have cohesion and determination, not just be a costumed enthusiast. Live the life, start to come together as one, unified movement with a leader. Not some rich do gooder.
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>>128508858
I don't care for Hitler at all, (I'm more of a George Lincoln Rockwell fan) I just think Hitler is widely misunderstood and the truth should be spoken.

Image related.
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>>128508470
My bad bb
Will do my friend
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>>128506899
The only difference between wiemer Germany and contemporary America is an economic crisis which can happen at any time because our financial system is a glorified ponzi scheme
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>>128509286
I wonder sometimes if the failure of Trump would make that pendulum swing much harder and much faster.
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>>128493985
No one cares about the (((alt right))) you nutsack.
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>I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. (Revelation 3:15,16)

Alt-right in a nutshell.
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>>128509522
25 unique IPs ITT do
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>>128509357
Rockwell was alright but without Christianity as a founding principle, you're still leaving minds wide open to Marxist Indotrination
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>>128493985
Correct. The actual "alt-Reich" would destroy most of the e-celeb attention whores who represent them.
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>>128509567
Interesting how many national socialist beliefs have biblical support
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>>128509630
>reddit matters
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>>128509630
They will be gassed first
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>>128499221
Most people Hitler would approve of are running a farm somewhere shitting out children by the score.
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>>128508257
many people have too big of a following for being not much more than a herder or a gatekeeper.
it seems unnatural.
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>>128509817
kek
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>>128509652
I can roll with that. We need it to be stronger than Islam though and we can't let it hinder scientific advancement.
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>>128509797
>church service in Nazi Germany
>inb4 that's Denmark's flag
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>>128493985
That sounds nothing like the alt-right. That does, however, sound like modern day liberalism. You have the feminism group siding with the LGBT group siding with the Islam group, when none of these groups like each other. The end result is that liberalism is destroying itself.
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>>128493985
Hitler would have been against the alt-right because it wouldnt achieve anything because each "sub-group" would try to subvert other "sub-group" goals, not because it is "bad" or "wrong". Two completely different situations that dont even merit further discourse with a stupid nigger like you.
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>>128506899
>implying blacks would be able to vote, or exist in the US
Loser's mindset.
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>>128509919
A big following of people taught to stay hidden and post on the websites of their "leaders" isn't a movement, its a subscriber count.
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Fun fact: Saul Alinsky advocated joining powers with several different factions with similiar goals. Thus modern liberalism was born.
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>>128509998
God gave man Science
As a Christian National Socialist I think science is God's greatest technological gift to man. I agree with Hitler's eugenics program and many other Christogenous views the Nazis had towards Science and Technology

>mfw could've been shitposting on mars by now
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>>128510435
Fun fact: the left was already in power when he was writing. That has to be taken into context.
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>>128510453
True that. Jet fighters and assault rifles are a product of Natsoc. Hell, Operation Paperclip.
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>>128509455
This is why trump was selected as a puppet in the first place. If the kikes can't beat a movement down they try to lead it.
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>>128510333
If HItler had followed his own advice about replacing great generals, Germany would have won the war or at least have been able to sue for peace.
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>>128509919
>>128510333
The Lemmings are real friend
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>>128507413
My ass would be on a boat to the Fatherland if shit went down. Fuck Jewmerica, talk me autobahn, to the place where I belong, take me home, autobahn.
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>>128509132
>>128509188
>>128509357
Hitler was a failure who ruined white nationalism for every single white country in the world. He then became the perfect propaganda symbol against white people who wanted to pursuit their ethnic interests.

>>128509413
>The only difference between wiemer Germany and contemporary America is an economic crisis which can happen at any time because our financial system is a glorified ponzi scheme
Is this the part where you state that balkanization is a good thing?

America was founded on refusing European monarchy and now you advocate an even worse form of totalitarianism. Just go to Europe.
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>>128510787
>ywn own a UMP45 or G36
JUST
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>>128510869
Well, in the end, every general including Hitler made mistakes, but none so great that any single mistake outweighed the successes, except one: The one man he truly needed to replace was Mussolini, but he couldn't. That little foray into Greece cost Hitler Barbarossa, and thus, the war.

>The difference between Fascism and National Socialism
https://youtu.be/-o0Ucaqzw2I
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>>128511115
>coming back for more
LMAOING @ UR LYFE M80
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>>128511115
>By fighting against the destruction of the white race, Hitler (not the allied countries working for the Jews) ruined white nationalism for every single white country in the world.
There are so many variations of this bullshit, its hilarious.
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>>128508337
Anon, they called Nixon Hitler. Nixon, who enforced desegregation at gunpoint, ended the Vietnam War and opened the door to China. If you are white and not sufficiently pro-Communist, you are going to be called a Nazi.
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>>128493985
I think he's wrong on this one, in a longer term sense. We need an """alt-right""" type movement to at least expose people to the idea that liberalism can be and is often wrong and used for nefarious purposes. Being satisfied with (((alt-right))) as THE movement is wrong and he's right about it being something weak and to be avoided.

But the fire rises, and this is the beginning. Let the big tent movement do its thing (by not doing anything), and eventually when the critical mass of "redpilled" people is high enough, we can work on doing some real shit.
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>>128495169
You're mixing that up with libertarianism. Not to mention, I'd hardly call the alt-right a coherent "ideology".
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>>128493985
I've also read Mein Kampf cover to cover, and you're right. He argues that to affect change, a movement must be unified under a clear banner, with clear goals, and with a leader. We obviously don't have any of that at this point.
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>>128511558
>He's wrong on this
>Hitler is wrong on this
>Hitler did wrong no this
>Hitler did nothing wrong
>mfw
Really gorrilions my gas chambers anon
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>>128511115
>Hitler was a failure who ruined white nationalism
Hitler wasn't a white nationalist, he was a man of the German people fighting to create a new race.

>He then became the perfect propaganda symbol against white people who wanted to pursuit their ethnic interests.
That's what happens when you lose a war. Again, misunderstood. Hitler didn't start the war, the Bolsheviks and British Government did
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>>128510993
why not move there now? you could witness it becoming what America became in the last century but you could actually see it all go down in your lifetime if you move to Western Europe right now. no one is stopping you
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>>128493985
I believe in right-wing Fascism, not National Socialism.
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>>128511558
Maybe we need such a thing at first, but we need to be on guard because its a sword that cuts two ways: it redpills, but its also great at "sheep dogging" and bluepilling people. It needs to move them consistently toward an endpoint that people would call "fanatical", or else it's moving them toward something else, something we don't want.
>b-but Milo redpilled me on feminism so gays must be cool, amirite?
You know the drill. That's how this "purple pill" bullshit works: it can move people toward blue pills as easily as it can toward red pills. Everyone needs to know what the end goal is, but I don't think most of them are advocating the same end goal. So Hitler's words are ultimately correct, especially here.
>inb4 nitpickers over the image
I didn't have a better one, i dont endorse everything in it, its just listing all the "alt-right/alt-lie/alt-whateverthefuck"
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>>128511981
>right-wing Fascism

That doesn't exist. Fascism is a product of the third position.
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>>128511981
Okay Mussolini
See if you get anywhere without Uncle Adolf
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>>128511843
I mean if you consider the big tent a prelude to a true movement, then they aren't as bad as he's making out. He still didn't do anything wrong (eks dee) but let's not pretend there's a shift to the right, and at this point we should take what we can get.
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>>128496509
See this:
>https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government/?hl=en
Germany is removing tens of thousands of videos from YouTube every year, it is difficult to notice because they will be completly invisible unless you have a direct link to them. The same videos are available in any other western nation. Get yourself a VPN and try it out yourself.
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>>128511585
exactly. alt-right is not an ideology. It literally is a label given by the left and the media of basically all right wing views.
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>>128493985
Who cares about Adi?
He was a drug-addicted vegetarian degenerate and fucked up massively again and again.
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>>128493985
>conflating the "alt-right" with national socialist or even fascist movements or /pol/

OP you are literally retarded. Remove yourself from the gene pool.
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>>128512224
For America, the Overton window is too far left
Maybe in time we can shift it but I don't think it will happen before Whites become the minority
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>>128512337
Traitor
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>>128512337
>implying you cared about any of your other leaders being those things, but worse
Thanks Ahmed.
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>>128493985
thx great point and insight bruder
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>>128512557
Was just about to post your pic related
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fucking plebbit faggots trying to trick dummies into thinking 4chan is "alt right",a term created by the (((media))).
You do not belong here,4chan will never have a political ideology,there is not a "we",just a (You).
Now go suck a big fat dick fucking follower.
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>>128495169
>What is Libertarianism
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>>128493985

>"coalitions between two political parties are bad!!!!"
>first thing hitler does upon taking office is to form a coalition with the DNVP

damn...when you put it like that...woah...
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>>128512767
This
/pol/ is and always will be a Ancap/NatSoc (mostly NatSoc) board
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>>128497256
only the jews are allowed to deal in absolutes
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>>128510333
trips of truth
exactly the png
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>>128496377
the word LARP needs to fucking die already. It started with leftist and made its way to 4chan from shills shouting it at anything showing conviction.
"You want to display your politics in public? Larpy McLarper larpiity doo xDD"
it plays on the highschool mentality of being 2cool4u. So I am convinced anyone that uses that faggy word is either a divide and conquer shill or some underage kid trying to get cool points on their favorite secret club hangout
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>>128512956
this is what /pol/ actually believes
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>>128511430
>By fighting against the destruction of the white race, Hitler (not the allied countries working for the Jews) ruined white nationalism for every single white country in the world.

>>128511858
Hitler chose to split Poland with the Soviet Union knowing full well that France and Britain guaranteed Poland's independence. Just because Hitler made many appeals for peace doesn't mean he didn't declare war in the end. This hubris led to the deaths of millions of Europeans, yet you retards praise him.
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>>128493985
Looks like he would be pro-Isis
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>>128512911
>first thing Hitler does is ban the other parties
FTFY, try harder. Here's his election speech:
https://youtu.be/6jNd1JMuWwA

And some others for lurker enlightenment:
https://youtu.be/ZoPyi7yGjSo
https://youtu.be/RQVIeTLqgOw
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>>128493985
Hitler was a racist. Fuck him.

(take me of the list now ffs)
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>>128513164
Sieg Heil and stop violating my NAP based leafposter!
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>>128513011
Those who mos abuse the word LARPing are often ones that are themselves the LARPers
(Pic related: it's projecting)
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>>128513419
Lol
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>>128513011
>it plays on the highschool mentality of being 2cool4u
Exactly. Don't care about anything anon, that's "try hard". Its cool to be nihilist, to care about nothing, to be hedonist and ironic and do everything for a laugh. Being passionate or fanatical and having things you value is "edgy", it's some kind of "vice", even among these so-called WNs who claim to care about their race: not if they can't make it look like they're just coasting toward their goals.
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>>128513234
Low tier b8 m8
Got me to reply/10
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>>128512125
No idea what you're talking about. Fascism itself has no real political doctrines. A fascist government can be left or right. Or neither. The idea is that by being united, anything can be achieved. It's a system that's a lot older than what Italy had.

>>128512175
Hitler was a great man, and he was inspired by Italy's Fascism. You cannot deny this lol. But Mussolini was definitely foolish.

While I like National Socialism, I don't see it ever being implemented in the U.S. Right wing Fascism definitely has a chance, though. It's the only thing that will save the West.
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>>128513579
People who accuse others of projecting are often themselves projectors.

People who accuse others of stealing are often thieves themselves.

People who accuse others of being leftists are often leftists themselves.
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>>128513795
>if A+B=C and D+E=C, then A+E=C
Shit argument premise m80
Fake and gay
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>>128513365

umm...no honey. hitler took power in January 1933 and was in a coalition until july
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>>128514503
Umm, no honey, because when he was "in a coalition" he wasn't "in power"; once he was fully in power, all other parties were gone. Just the NSDAP remained. You fucking mong.
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>>128514687
>was the head of government de facto dictator through Hindenburg's presidential powers
>not "in power"

S W E E T I E
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>>128494822
he also lost.
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>>128504060
Islam without any shitskins would be okay, but there are far too many shitskins in islam already that the entire religion is toxic by association.
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>>128514975
NO OTHER PARTIES AFTER HE BECAME CHANCELLOR, SWEETNIPS

July 14, 1933

S W E E T N I P S
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Alt-right is all talk and thinking, meanwhile the real revolution has already begun in the rest of the world. Obviously it doesn't allign with the worldview of kremlin shills so you don't read about it on /pol/.

Once more, the western world will be fighting against it instead of leading.
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>>128515641
>Azov Battalion
>Funded by a kike
>He also thinks Ukrainians are a real ethnicity.
Ukraine belongs to Russia.
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Hitler liked mudslimes though and thought it would be the best fit for nazism.
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People don't understand that the alt-right isn't a movement, it's a derogitory term given to us normal moderates who find ourselves fighting the left more than the right. This makes us seem right winged but we make it very clear that the right are still autistic and we hate them.

The alt-right is as much of a political party as much as the white race is a demographic to advertise to in politics or media. There are just too many different people, and it was never meant to be a collective in the first place.
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>>128515330
k
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>>128513164
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>>128516059
Only took a minute to bait out the putinbot.

Azov isn't funded by jews, unlike Putin who let the jewish oligarchs enjoy unlimited power in his Russia.

As a matter of fact, the majority of Azov volunteers are from Russia and enjoy widespread support from Russian nationalists.

Better start posting some photoshopped images and RT or Sputnik articles dumb kremlin shill.
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>>128516734
>Hitler liked mudslimes though and thought it would be the best fit for nazism.
HOLY SHIT UK CONFIRMED MUDSLIME LOVING NATION HOLY FUCK QUEEN CONFIRMED SHARIA PLANT FALSE FLAG BRITISH EMPIRE REALLY ARAB EMPIRE HOLY FUCK CONFIRMED AMIRITE
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>>128498814
If you think about it, what both the alt-right movement and the transhumanist movement are doing is trying to figure out how to defeat entropy.
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>>128518289
entropy is a good way to describe dysgenics
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>>128518289
>>128518966
That's an interesting perspective. I wish transhumanism wasn't so shaped and led by Jewish cultural paradigms though.There are eugenic arguments they make I would agree with.
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>>128508829
Because everyone thought he was fanatical.
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>>128519991
>Because everyone thought he was fanatical.
Because he pulled out of the international finance system, and it threatened that system to succeed without (((them))). They didn't care about fanaticism, because they were fanatics, and allied with fanatics (Stalin) to defeat Germany. Fanaticism wasn't their concern.
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>>128519297
Transhumanism is attempting to create immortal humans, and the alt-right is attempting to create immortal cultures.
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>>128518966
Aging is basically dysgenics on a cellular level.
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>>128518289
I love you anon. Been thinking the same for years, but could never articulate it so succinctly.
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>>128504409
Why are they killing other Nazis?
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>>128523955
Disloyalty. The one's they're killing were fags, bolshevists, and all around degenerates. Night of Long Knives.
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>>128524114
That's okay for me then. Thanks.
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>>128521164
Average citizens could not support someone who championed a very specific form of German nationalism to the exception of all others. Hitler was a domestic politician and paid the price. You can't go along slaughtering Russian and Polish peasantry and expect to win the hearts and minds of the world's citizens. There's a reason people resisted nazi occupation -- it's because they were brutal and fanatical

If you're trying to bring down an economic order run by an internation collective of Jews, don't make yourself the worse option.
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>>128493985
Hey thinks bro my dude! Excellent post my guy! Much Love!!
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>>128493985
Hes right. History is driven by elite groups, and elite groups arent big tents. The reactionaries understood this better than the alt right and arguably better than the neo-nazis as well, which is why they might actually wind up doing something
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>>128525358
The rule of good hierarchy is only worry about the elites; as in: if you are alone, find likeminded individuals and stand tall on your beliefs

Others who want the same thing but don't just know what it is yet will follow

Have healthy strong leadership and the nation will follow suit
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>>128519297
The solution to the transhumanist Jewish question is for more pro-White non-Jews to join the transhumanist movement.
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>>128524602
>a very specific form of German nationalism
Did you get your education primarily from youtube, television, or idiots around here?
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>>128526230
it did sort of rely on a very particular set of geopolitical realities that arent around anymore
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>>128493985
Mein Kampf largely was not written by Hitler. Read his second book for true redpils.
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>>128494822
>If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it."

That's what is going on mofo.
At this point resisting globalism and embracing nationalism is a huge step in the right direction.
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>It must be fanatically convinced that it is right and just, and it must be absolutely intolerant of any idea or organization that is counter to its own teaching. If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it."

Sounds like a the left... No wonder they've been winning for decades.
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>>128524602
Except most countries didn't resist Nazi rule. Most countries invaded by Germany contained ethnic Germans who welcomed them.

Holland, France... Were there any others? Poland was being idiotic and rejected peace. They got what they deserved. Hitler even offered to give the non-Germanic parts of Poland back to the allies. They rejected that because they wanted wars.
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>>128493985
>>128525358
What is a better way for us to achieve things of value, if not create a big tent?
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>>128493985
Alt-right is a term used by morons which means, "People on the internet with opinions I disagree with." No-one supports the alt-right movement because there isn't one to begin with.
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>>128527386
Yeah, German ethnics, that's my point. The nazis were good for germans, i'm sure. But nazism could never become a global ideology. It was bound by its ethnic nature (not unlike how the Jews operate). My point is, while the elite oppossed Hitler because he was against the status quo, average people were against Hitler because he was an ethnic based fanatic. You can't bring down an international order by marketing it to only one group of people. No one wants to be subjugated by another ethnic group that views itself as superior (oh the irony)
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>>128526573
>geopolitical realities that arent around anymore
I don't really see how a philosophy based on natural laws is so transient, but I'm open to your argument.
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>>128528012
>But nazism could never become a global ideology. It was bound by its ethnic nature
This is such a bizarro normie meme.
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>>128528012
>No one wants to be subjugated by another ethnic group that views itself as superior (oh the irony)
>>>/r/eddit until you bother to study the subject before posting
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>>128527795
Literal definition of autistic screeching?
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>>128528012
It can be a global political movement if every nation is proud of itself ethnically and contains people who care about their culture, race and country. That's not insane or fantastical, that's common sense.

Every country should nationalize and rebel against the globalist
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>>128527795
Any black /pol/acks - your mission in life should be to BLACKED a kike - destroy their bloodline
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>>128528319
That's impossible because white people are dependent on an empire. At the moment, the white race is the only one for which self-sufficiency is unimaginable.
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>>128493985
The alt right is a leftist meme you shitbird, it doesn't actually exist. Also Hitler is directly responsible for almost all problems in Europe, and arguably the world, because his spectacular ineptitude during the war led to his defeat and planted the seeds for the massive fucking over correction that you see in the vast majority politicians worldwide.
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