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Quick rundown: Dyke Premier Wynne has just passed Bill 89, which allows for Children's Aid to seize your kids (biological/adopted/step children) if you hold anti-LGBTQ/binary gender/anti-gay marriage views and place them in LGBTQ gay-couple homes (friendly reminder that 40%+ of gays are pedophiles). Muslims/Sikhs are exempt because the bill is worded to consider the child's "creed".

“Even before Bill 89 was passed, but immediately after its introduction in December, I learned of several Christian couples who were turned down for adoption on account of their deeply held religious beliefs about traditional marriage and human sexuality,” he told LifeSiteNews.

>TORONTO, June 1, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario’s Kathleen Wynne Liberals have passed what critics describe as “totalitarian” Bill 89 on the last day before Queen’s Park adjourns for the summer.

>Pro-family advocates warn Bill 89 gives the state more power to seize children from families that oppose the LGBTQI and gender ideology agenda, and allows government agencies to effectively ban couples who disagree with that agenda from fostering or adopting children.

>Children’s Aid agencies now have “a type of police power to bust down your door, and seize your biological children if you are known to oppose LGBT ideology and the fraudulent theory of ‘gender identity', if for instance, some claim is made that your child may be same-sex attracted or confused about their ‘gender,’” according to Fonseca.

>“We already see similar tyranny happening in other jurisdictions, such as Norway, where the main child protection service there, Barnevernet, has been involved in numerous high profile seizures of children from traditionally-principled families,” he added.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-ontario-passes-totalitarian-bill-allowing-govt-to-take-kids-from-c

>Bill 89
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&BillID=4479&detailPage=bills_detail_the_bill
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Bump. Needs to be seen.
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>>128484010
Nuke this country. I don't see any other salvation.
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>>128484010
Looks like it's time to add some more stars to the flag.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU
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>>128484010
Someone kill Leaf King Justin already.
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>>128484010
>Muslims/Sikhs are exempt because the bill is worded to consider the child's "creed".
I don't understand how this exempts them but not christians.
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When is QEII going to start dissolving parliament or whatever it is she has the power to do until Canada shapes up?
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>>128484010
legal weed tho
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Quebec separatist movement when?

>>128486925
In theory it should, but we can make educated guesses about how it will be applied.
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>>128484010
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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This reminds me of that big backlash where people were trying to take their child out of school and picking them up instead of getting on the bus and the school calling cops stopping parents from getting their children.

Like the school has more power than parents.
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Canacucks
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Please get me out of this shit fucking country
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this cant be real. are you exaggerating this shit again
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>>128484010
Worst case Ontario, indeed.
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>>128484010
>TWO SCOOPS

When are these fucking Leafs gonna grow some and storm their parliament? Oh, yeah... No guns.
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>>128484010
if only Canada was in western Europe. There would be trucks of peace everywhere
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>>128484010
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>>128488396
there are plenty of guns in canada
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So if your kid is taken show up in court dressed like muslims.
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>>128484010
is this real?

children need a mom. they need a dad. we don't bring the same thing to the table.

exactly how fucking brainwashed are these loony liberal morons? and who the fuck vote these degenerates into power?
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>>128487225
great way to pacify the population. well, the loser part, anyway.
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>>128487930
Stale institutions always have more power than the parents since the parents are directly subjected to the laws.
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>>128484010
This whole bill is for all the sad stories of kids dying in abusive situations because the government was powerless to take the kids to a better environment.
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For every gay couple willing to adopt there are 10 Christians willing to adopt.

My friend is an assistant pastor and music director for his church. He and his wife recently discovered she had fertility issues. They took this as a sign they should adopt and not go through the turmoil that is trying to conceive with IVF.

He is 29 and she is 28. They have now adopted two children, one from the middle east and one from Poland.

None of my homosexual acquaintances and friends have adopted, nor do they plan to. The only ones that have contemplated anything we're going to go through surrogacy and some strange embryo fiddling to make them both the biological parents. Selfish.

Also, this will likely exclude any Muslims from adopting, which (say it loud, say it proud with me)...
>DAT'S RACIST!
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>>128484010

Wow, it's almost surreal.

Incredible that things are happening so fast in Canada. With the passage of the M-103 "Islamophobia" bill and C-16 bill regarding "gender" discrimination, I'm almost confused as to why things like this are being passed in Canada with seemingly so little opposition. I read about what Canada originally was and what it is now - truly saddening and scary.

Are there so few conservatives as to counter this? Canadians, how do your friends/family feel about this (and the bills I mentioned)?
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>>128484010
>and place them in LGBTQ gay-couple homes
But that's not mandatory, this is "only" a scenario, right?
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>>128490032
this is every (white) Canadian
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>inb4 slimy jew comes in and defends the bill
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Canadians better start closing their facebooks, SJWs will weaponise it against people they hate.
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>>128490032
>M-103 "Islamophobia" bill and C-16 bill regarding "gender" discrimination
Could someone please give me an overview, perhaps without the usual /pol/ distortion and dramatization?
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>>128488640
>>128488640
>>128488640
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>>128484010
This is fake, right?
This can't be real.
I'm scared, pol.
I'm Christian, but I don't have any anti-lgbt views. This is fucking unfair,
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>>128489621
Wait, what kind of embryo fiddling are you talking about? Ive never heard that was possible.
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>>128492215
M103 the govt condemns islamiphobia and all forms of religious discrimination and seeks methods to quell rising islamiphobia

The other one criminalizes refusing to use someone's pronouns after they have informed you of them
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>>128492695
Just tell the courts that you remind your family every day that guys can suck dick too.
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>>128492695
Our country is doing dives to the deep end. I wouldn't be surprised if we're the next (Western) country to drop into a civil war due to all the shit being dropped on us.
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>>128489621
>one from the middle east

Why do people adopt sand niggers and niggers?
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I'm surprised Wynn is employed.
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>>128492695
PUSSY
Get ready for pol to talk tough and not do anything about it
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>>128484010
dear god...
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What
The
Fuck

Canada, you guys still have guns right?
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this can't be real
if so
run
get the fuck out
and go somewhere white
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>>128486402
P L E A S E
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>>128484010

>Muslims/Sikhs are exempt because the bill is worded to consider the child's "creed".

How does this work? Is Christian not a creed?
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>>128484010
Report all Muslim couples.
All of them.
Every one of them.
Kebab must be outed as the bigots they are.
DO IT YOU FUCKING LEAFS.
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>>128493715
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/world/asia/indonesia-gay-caning.html?_r=0

But it's their culture.
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>>128493860
Always use archive

>https://nytimes com/2017/05/17/world/asia/indonesia-gay-caning.html?_r=0
https://archive.is/LxHzJ
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>>128493715
You can be called racist if you persecute muslims. Nobody can say anything if you persecute white Christian families. That's the kind of echo chamber "liberals" have created.
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>>128493069
How binding are those and for who? What are the penalties? I'm not familiar with Canadian law.
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>>128484010
Is Canada just a super sized version of Washington state? This sounds like the kind of wacky shit I'd expect from them.
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>>128493241
I think the girl is Yazidi, which desperately need sheltering.
>>128492804
it is kind of weird. Also very selfish. Obviously homosexual behavior evolves in wild animals too. It is my theory that it is a form of population control.

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/08/triplets/

Also, if they are messing with the mitochondrial DNA, why are they so concerned with viable embryos? Meaning that why did they keep three, they have no belief or morality system anyway, just bring one into the world.
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Other than the supposed creed exemption, I don't see how this is a problem. Children aren't property, and religion isn't a justification for anything. My dad was an abusive nutcase who bullied me to make himself feel better; I would've been a lot better off if the state found a different family for me.
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>>128493903
This seems bot-like. Did those reddit fucks bring their shitty ideas to /pol/?
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>>128484010
g
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prepare the generators lads, were gonna need a lot of electicity to solve this one
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Imagine being the child that gets taken away... Imagine then being molested/raped/transexualized by these strangers you are forced to live with. Imagine growing up full of hatred for these people but being unable to express it because you don't want to be prison meat.
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>don't toe the fag line
>Left forcibly removed your children at gunpoint

>Left can't see this is as figuratively holding children hostage
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>>128492215
M-103:
-It states the government must “condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination”
-The text of the motion does not clarify what constitutes “Islamophobia”
-Another part of the bill asks the government to “recognize the need to quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear”.

As for C-16, the website linked by OP has a good piece on the matter:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-bill-opposing-transgenderism-will-put-you-in-jail
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>>128494118
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>>128493093
I mean, my cousin is gay and I have no problem with it, and I assume I'll have no problem treating others the same way. It sucks that I'm going to be oppressed by the very existence of this law when I decide to raise a family. Worse yet is that I feel powerless to change the law.

>>128493202
How do you cope? I just started what I hope will be my career in programming, with an aim to work at Microsoft or if God will's it, at Google. All this so I can raise beautiful children with a lovely wife.
This is all too much. I just can't handle it.
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>>128493903
Do you ever sleep?

It's always a Norwegian the past few days who bursts into any thread even if he hasn't posted before and rants about archives then responds with a useless break in the url.

That takes autism levels of dedication
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>>128494345
Sad to say man, but you are no longer the true parent, you are just a care taker with this law, screw up and they'll just pass it along to someone who'll do it their way.
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>>128493577
Burger, I know you mean well, but I'm shitting my pants over this. I don't want my future children to be taken away just because the government doesn't like me.
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>>128494369
Thanks.

And yes, I power nap. Sometimes /pol/ doesn't get a shill link for up to 45 minutes at a time.
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>>128494369
Don't fuck with the senient norbot of no free views
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>>128494257
M stands for motion. So really, it means it "hopes to" do those things. If it was an actual bill, we can put bill-89 into question as it could be considered religious discrimination.
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>>128484010
Post yfw you don't live in Cucknadia or the Caliphate of Britain
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>>128494441
>mfw
Please kill me then. I have nothing to look forward to.
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Is it publicly listed where Canadian politicians live? Are their home addresses a matter of public record? Parents could protest directly outside their homes for this.
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>>128494042
You're equating real abuse and beliefs.

If I don't belief fallacies my children are taken away? Not the same as if I was hitting or abusing them

Kill the radical Muslims gas war now
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>>128494510
Why are you obsessed? You don't get paid. It's bad for your health.

Unless you're physically a robot, who am I to judge?
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>>128494510
I hope something nice happens to you in the coming week.
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>>128484010
Good. Spay and neuter your local god-botherer.
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WHAT THE FUCK THIS CAN'T BE REAL

You guys ruined the timeline, I just woke up and can't deal with this before coffee REEEE
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>>128486402
please, I beg you

take the west, we'll even be content with territory status and not real statehood
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>>128484010

Wait why is this a bad thing?
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Guys, we can't let this happen. You think Canada shitposting is bad NOW? Imagine in a decade when all Canadian kids are seized and put in LGBTQQIA+ homes and start posting on /pol/ THEN.
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>>128493980
M103 is just virtue signaling it has no legal penalties for ignoring it. The main controversy comes from it specifically focusing on stopping negative things about Islam and not all religious discrimination

C-16 makes not using proper pronouns a hate crime. Hate crimes are usually punished by prison for up to two years if that is all they are charged with
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>>128487889
My thoughts also...
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>Part V Child Protection
>This Part replaces Part III of the current Act with the following changes.
>Differences include: the current Act includes the child’s cultural background in this list while the new Act includes the child’s cultural and linguistic heritage; the current Act includes the religious faith in which the child is being raised while the new Act includes the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression.
>An equivalent to section 86 of the current Act, which prohibits Roman Catholic children from being placed in the care of a Protestant society, institution or family and Protestant children from being placed with a Roman Catholic society, institution or family, is not included in the new Act. Instead, a society is to choose a residential placement that, where possible, respects the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and cultural and linguistic heritage
wew lad
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>>128494804
Ideally I'd like to throw all people with blue checkmarks into a gas chamber and crank it up, but that's not possible so I'll go with this.
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>>128486402
If things don't change then I might actually begin to like this idea.
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>>128484010
just tell them you're a muslim, what's the problem?
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>>128484010
Candians need to start killing their politicians and put the fear of god into them.
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>>128494831
>>128494510

Well, I apologize man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-7eZyPWtE
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>>128488631
>what is the 5 round mag limit on assault rifles
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Anyone wanna annex Canada? It's at the point no one would try and stop you
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So basically as they introduce this million gender stuff into the school system, if a parent disagrees with it they lose their kids.
Even if someone makes a gay joke on twitter it could be used in a family court against them...
This has so many negative possibilities.
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>>128495333
you're on your own m8
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>>128495281
>Not knocking the pin out so you can load more then 5
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>>128489621
>He and his wife recently discovered she had fertility issues. They took this as a sign they should adopt

What is /pol/s view on adoption?

Is adoption a form of cuckoldry?
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>>128494703
Im glad i was born in Brazil instead of Europe or cucknada.
You couldn't pay me to live in those dystopian hellholes
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>Canada

No its just Ontario. At this point if you still live in that shit province you deserve everything you get. Also, this bill will be over turned when the conservatives win the next provincial election.
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>>128495421
And when a parent says a naughty word because their children are taken away that will be publicized widely as a hate crim satan incident and justification for the kidnapping laws to begin with.
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>>128489621
foreign adaption should be banned anyway
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>>128495530
I ment a white country but thanks you can keep your niggers
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>>128495116
/pol/s batman
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>>128486402
alberta has been waiting for that since 67
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Right wingers can't win arguments with real news, so they use fake news.

Posting this again: this is the definition of a child in need of protection in the bill. no where in the bill it says that they are going to take away children from parents with anti-LGBT views.

Stop preying on the stupid and actually read what the bill says.

The bill does mention gender identity and sexual orientation, but not in the part which defines which children are going to be taken - it's only a part of the definition "needs of the child" when the authorities are taking care of him and when they place him in a new home.

The section about child placement is different from the section about which children are taken, geniuses
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>>128494257
What I still try to understand is what specific problem they were aiming to solve (intention) and what the real-world application is. I'm also missing the context under which such legislation is proposed.

>>128495004
Re C-16, who can be convicted under what circumstances? Officials (like public servants or university employees)? Businesses? Normal citizens? And when does it start to be a hate crime? After zir announces to be called zir and the other parties doesn't immediately comply?
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>>128495596
Not if you're adopting a kid from your own race.
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>>128495530
You don't understand. We need you before the mandatory institutionalized dick sucking classes - not after.
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>>128495730
>>128495730
>>128495730
>>128495730

Read the actual bill idiots.
It says absolutely nothing about taking away children from parents with anti-lgbt views
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This is fucked up but something does need to be done about intolerant parents. Parents abusing and banishing their gay children is an unneccesary drain on society. How many gay kids could have been doctors but their chance of an education got ruined by parents who beat them so badly they became mentally ill or made them a homeless crack addict?
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>>128495333
We wanna, you're our rightful clay anyway.

Also checked
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>>128495201
Ye shall deny me thrice before the cock cries.
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>>128484010
>canada magnificent
Is this real deal?
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>>128494856
Make your poster about the electroweak force:

>Did you know?
>There are roughly 50 electroweak theories today?
>Some say that 49 are false.
>Some say that 50 are false.

It's retarded, because the true answer is that 1 is closer to the truth than the others; even if not perfectly true, it is close enough. (Weinberg-Salam model of electroweak.)
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>>128495874
>how many gay people could have become doctors
No thanks i don't want a faget doctor playing with my balls for fun.
Med school is very competitive so one gay doctor = 1 potential straight doctor who couldn't make it in
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>>128495648
Tell me more about Ontario. I'll do business in the Toronto area next year and still need to orientate myself. I understand that there's a debt problem and Toronto is multiculti Central with insane housing prices.
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>>128495755
But you are still raising another man's seed. They will never love you like they would love their own blood.

There are so many adoption stories of the kids going off and looking for their real parents.
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I can't find a single news site reporting on this that isn't hyperpartisan outrage porn. Most of them just copy the lifesitenews article verbatim. If this was real you'd see a lot more people talking about it than just /pol/'s cross-referencing echo chamber.
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>Siezing Kids
>not learning the first time

Canada whaddyya doin'
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>>128494488
Then leave. Go to a flyover red state a get a bunch of guns. I'm using this to hardcore redpill my girl right now
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>>128496149
I guess you're right.
Poor orphan kid tho.
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>>128495648
It's not even "just Ontario".

It's paranoid right wingers having zero reading comprehension. the bill says absolutely nothing about taking away children from parents with anti-lgbt views.
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>>128496150
It's not real, see >>128495730
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>>128495736
Everyone is susceptible, it makes refusing to use the pronouns someone identifies with equivalent to calling a black person a nigger, or refusing to bake a cake for gays.

Based on my real life experiences it takes a dedicated campaign of harassment and hate before any legal action beyond a restraining order is taken
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>>128486925
In Canada the wording of the law doesn't matter, because it is understood to be supported of certain groups and not others (so as to achieve affirmative action), and that's what judges support, and we all know Christians are not a loved group in Canada.

Burgers annex Canada, please.
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>>128495163

We don't want your leafcancer.
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>>128494945
>literally breaking up families because of the parents personal and political ideology are misaligned with that of the state
>good

this is some 1950's communist shit
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Where in the actual bill does it say this?
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>>128495755
Which America makes virtually impossible. They did get a Polish kid though.
>>128495596
What kind of weird virgin logic is this?

So he should divorce his wife because she cannot conceive? Adoption is bad, we should just corral all unwanted kids and orphans into government ran buildings, then throw them in the streets at 18?

Unwanted kids and kids whose parents die or disappear happens. Better they get into loving homes with a mother and father than being tossed between foster homes or living in an orphanage.
>>128495683
In America it is easier to adopt from a foreign country than internally. And if you try internally, they want to dump some troubled teen on you.
https://www.adoptioninstitute.org/news/why-is-it-easier-to-adopt-a-child-from-overseas-than-from-another-state/
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>>128486754
Imagine if a refugee kill trucuck, oh god, can we meme this into reality?
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>>128496523
No where.

The bill mentions Gender identity and sexual orientation only in the context of "needs of the child" that authorities should take into consideration when they treat him and find him a new home. it says absolutely nothing about this in the section about which children are in a need of protection
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i searched the bill for "gay" & "lgbt"-- 0 results. anyone wanna gib me a quick run down? how does this affect those with anti lgbt views?
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>>128495730

If you think clauses (f) through (i) won't be used in regards to kids who are gay and/or have gender disphoria I think you are being naive.
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>>128488396
Actually, we just had a shoot-a-thon at some random sandhill. We had bolt-action rifles and semi-auto .300 rifles. This is because we had a Conservative government until Trudeau took over; everyone here expects the new government to clamp down on guns more. (If you talk about defending yourself from the government in Canada, you may get in trouble from the law and have your guns taken away, though. The RCMP don't need to take you to court, they can just steal your guns.)
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>>128489621
>some strange kiddie fiddling
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>>128484010
>friendly reminder that 40%+ of gays are pedophiles
Don't you mean 40% of pedophiles are gay? Even then, don't you mean 40% of pedophiles are male and has targeted a child?

You don't want to go down that road where you make the assumption that because X% of Y are Z that X% of Z are Y.

A majority of cucks may be white people, but that does not mean the majority of white people are cucks.
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>>128486402
i surrender
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>>128496057
you can lie if it's not for selfish reasons
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>>128484010
That's fucked up
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>>128496328
lefties don't read their articles either, just the headlines
get off ur hi hose
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>>128484010

This does not pass the smell test. It sounds too ridiculous to be true. Has OP actually researched this article and looked up the bill in question to see if it actually does what you say?

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&BillID=4479

>spends 5 minutes skimming the bill

The articles about gender identity and sexual orientation don't cover what brings about seizure. Just placement of children already in Government care. i.e, non-discrimination in ability to adopt or foster/needs of the child including the childs gender identity or sexual orientation.

That last part maybe can be argued. But its pretty lost in the screaming (and false) hysteria of OP's article.

There was a time when /pol/ was not so easily manipulated. That time is long since gone.
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>>128495281
Drive down to the states, pick up a boxload of extended mags and ammo, drive back.
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>>128496718
That is how this sort of thing is done. By creating obscurity which ideologically charged people can exploit incognito.

Would they not be able to cite "human rights" legislation or other diversity guidelines as reason for potential harm under the definition of the Canadian Government?
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>>128495596
I think it's fine if they're an orphan or you and your wife can't have any children of your own. Perhaps there are other acceptable situations.
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>>128486925
Bigotry under the mask of anti-Bigotry
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>>128496250
Nope, Kathlyn Wynne will seize all children that have parents who are against her LGBT army of government servants
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>>128496716
It's actually the very opposite. if you legit believe just having anti-lgbt views counts as "emotional abuse" you are being paranoid.

>Hurr durr the bill says severe emotional abuse is a reason to take away children from parents, i bet this is all about LGBT rights XD

Let me tell you something, i don't even think you are being paranoid. you know right wingers can't win with real arguments so you promote fake news
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>>128495730
Noted, but what does the section about child placement say? If the bill actively tries to place children in an LGBTQWTF environment then this is probably a veiled effort by human traffickers to place children in the hands of pedophiles.
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>>128496851
says the non white pedophile
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>>128495281
>assault rifles
I didn't know you could own full-autos over there
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>>128495596
Not preferable, but if own race it's fine. If it's outwardly obvious the child is not biologically yours then it's basically a living, breathing cone of shame.
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>>128497227
Well, the section about child placement basically says that it will be hard for someone with strong anti-lgbt views to adopt a gay child.

How is this not sensible?
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>>128496212
They don't allow them to leave that shithole easily
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>>128497342
How do you know if it's a gay child?
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>>128496716
Don't bother. In the last thread that was archived I told the jew about this and he completely ignored me. He's literally being a shill spouting bullshit about how since it's not explicitly written into the bill that it won't be interpreted that way and we have no cause to worry.

As I explained in the last thread as well, CPS in Hamilton, Ontario took children away from parents who refused to lie to their children and tell them that Santa Claus was real because of some bullshit about how it deprived the children of an essential tenet of childhood and was practically emotional abuse.

If THAT is classified by the CPS as abuse or deprivation, then anti-LGBT views could certainly be construed the same way.

I'm glad as fuck that Wynne's approval rating is in the tank and that she's practically scrounging for votes with idiots with all the shit she's trying to pass before the next election. I really hope people see through it for what it is and get her dumb debt dyke ass out of Queen's Park.
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>>128486402
Fuck that, I don't want them. Drop the nukes
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>>128486402
Or keep them as a territory.
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>>128496490
careful leaf or the anti-bigot police will bust down the door and lodge a bullet in your skull for having opposing views, a bigoted action you could say.

Just remember people always paint others for actions they themselves are guilty of.
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>>128497404
It's about openly gay children, are you stupid or something
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>>128484010
Ooooh my god.
Not another bullshit bill!
Can we get a civil war already and get it over with?
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>>128497505
You mean somebody let these children have underaged sex?
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>>128496684

74,2,g:
>the child has suffered emotional harm of the kind described in subclause (f) (i), (ii), (iii), (iv) or (v) and the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child does not provide services or treatment or access to services or treatment, or, where the child is incapable of consenting to treatment under the Health Care Consent Act, 1996, refuses or is unavailable or unable to consent to the treatment to remedy or alleviate the harm;

(f) the child has suffered emotional harm, demonstrated by serious
>i anxiety,
>ii depression,
>iii withdrawal,
>iv self-destructive or aggressive behaviour, or
>v delayed development;
And there are reasonable grounds to believe that the emotional harm suffered by the child results from the actions, failure to act or pattern of neglect on the part of the child’s parent or the person having charge of the child
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>>128495591
Yup, it really is this easy. In case of a civil war, it doesn't matter. Plus, stripper clips are so fast, it's not a big deal.
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>>128495730
A is good.
B is a bit shady. How and who decides whether there is a risk or not, and how does one identify such "risks",
B i, having any of the religious"phobic" views can fall under here as well as in B ii.
C is good.
D is just rewording of C, which makes sense since definitions of these words can be interpreted so wildly. This is like a safety net.
E is good.

F is a little iffy. A child may display such symptoms of abuse without being abused. Like when the media tells people that whites are to blame then ofc a white child will develop serious anxiety problems. They aren't entirely stupid, but they are incredibly impressionable.

All in all an okay bill. No mention of focusing on Christian families or LGBT in specific. Though with today's political climate it can be used effectively against religious families.
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>>128484010
dear god
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Im ready to see Canada go to hell
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>>128497404
They ask them
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>>128496986
I saw an article that smelled like bait on facebook... Surely enough I googled it and some faggot was bragging about how it was faked to make conservatives look bad.

little do they know the nasal satire glands in a turbo fascist hyper nazi are 1000x more sensitive than pussy ass liberal glands.

desu i was a little proud 2b able to smell contrived 'performance art' narcissistic lefty bullshit from a mile away.
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>>128497342
>a gay child
>a
>gay
>child

what in the actual fuck?!
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>>128496874
That sounds like taqiyah.
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>>128497428
Can I have a source for that CPS claim? Thank you. I am interested.
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Aniway right wingers, im leaving this thread. but if you want to win arguments, use real news, not fake news.

Examples:
- Donald Trump is getting out of the paris agreement, which means he is basically vowing to increase CO2 emissions = real news.

- Canada wants to take away children from parents with anti-lgbt views = fake news

that's all.
If you want an explanation as to why it's fake news, just see my first post in this thread. >>128495730
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>>128486402
This
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>>128496716
Yeah with you leaf.
Don't fall for the Jew double-legal-think
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>>128486402
Territory status is fine with me

t. Alberta
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Is it by any chance publicly listed where Canadian politicians live? Are their home addresses a matter of public record? Parents could protest directly outside their homes for this.
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>>128497688
Fuck man, how come nobody asked me if I was a car? I WAS a car dammit.
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>>128497668
Also from an article I read.
"The reality, too, is that many children do resist parental direction as a part of the growing up process. As a result they may experience “mental and emotional” discomfort when their parents insist that they do as instructed. This parent/child conflict could, under provisions of the bill, lead to the removal of the child from the home."
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>>128497600
Note the important part is this
> does not provide services or treatment or access to services or treatment, or, where the child is incapable of consenting

If your child 'needs' gender reassignment because it causes them depression, and you refuse - that is grounds for protection.
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>>128497760
>>128497428
It was the Easter bunny not Santa and it was foster parents not their biological parents. I'll see if I can find a news article
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allo guise wat is bill c-16 and is it already provincial law in ontario
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>>128497756
yeah but less muslim
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>>128497755
Kikery, as to be expected.
>Are you pedophobic?
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>Taking children away from religious nuts
You jelly lad? if you had this law none of these terrorist attacks would had happened.
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>>128495978
>clay
Ever been to Canada? 99.9 percent of that frozen shithole is rock and permafrost. The US got all the clay when they made the border.
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>>128498057
found it
http://globalnews.ca/news/3374701/hamilton-couple-refuse-to-tell-foster-kids-easter-bunny-is-real-cas-shuts-down-home-court-docs/
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>>128484010

So. Canada is now a fascist nation. That's not really news but now I understand why even our mentally retarded liberals decided to stay in the U.S. and not move to Canada even after Trump was elected.
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>>128497264
We can't; just semi-auto. And for some reason, not ones that look "scary" like the AR-15, even though there is no functional difference.
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>>128497505
>>128496684
>>128496328
>>128496250
>>128495840
>>128495730

You're ignoring all the points about how the bill can easily be interpreted against anti-LGBT parents. You're a fucking shill.

Just like Bill C-16 doesn't say it's enforcing certain types of speech, that's exactly what it's doing. This bill can be interpreted very, very widely, and I almost guarantee that it will be, to the detriment of traditional and anti-LGBT families. Seriously, shut the fuck up with your merchant ways and stop trying to placate an already docile populace.
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>>128497817
see
>>128497668
>>128498034

I desperately want to believe its all fake news, but how can I?
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ah shit, i was hoping we'd get a few more years before we have to take canada
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>>128484010
AHAHAHAHAAHAH GOOD NIGHT CANADASTAN AHAHAHAHAH IT WAS NICE TO KNOW YOU FAGGOTS
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>>128488801
Unfortunately, we did (fucking Toronto can burn in hell)

most of the people that aren't in toronto or ottawa hate wynne tho, hopefully she gets the boot
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>>128486402
Only if we can move all their liberals to California, Minnesota, and NY, that way we can trap them all in already Democrat-locked states.
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>>128494488
Pussy
Better not do anything about it
Yeah I get your worries, but fucking do something about it
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>>128486402
>take control of Canada
>Democrats win every election for the next 100 years
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>>128498303
1. That's not what the article in lifesitenews says, its downright misleading it's readers

2. the only argument you have is that the language which defines emotional abuse is a bit vague.

absolutely nothing in the bill says children will be taken away from parents with anti-LGBT views. the hysteria is completely unwarranted
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>>128496716
74,2,(g), in relation to (f). There's so much room to maneuver in this bill to reflect exactly what the article entails. Just remember those key points and keep posting them if they try saying otherwise.
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>>128497817
Point taken about the bill not quite saying that. But you have to understand: the reason us Canadians can believe something like this, is because we really do already have similar things, e.g. with the human rights tribunal.

Also, the paris agreement is just feel-good garbage that can't actually reduce CO2 in any meaningful way. It shows world stupidity that so many countries are onboard.
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>>128488358
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>>128486402
JUST
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>>128498574
"there is a risk that the child is likely to suffer emotional harm" in accordance with vagueness in the hands of, what are normally, rabidly ideologically civil servants is a recipe for interpretation
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>>128497975
Have you seen the movie Brazil?

The two party system is a fucking failure.
One helps the economic situation of the majority but destroys the cultural identity.
One keeps the cultural identity and destroys the rights and wealth of the majority.

Two party system has failed.
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>>128486402
just let us keep hackey and timmies
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>>128498712
Even if the paris agreement was a "feel good garbage", getting out of it still essentially means the US is not going to reduce CO2 emissions like what the rest of the world is doing.

Increasing atmospheric CO2 is problematic for multiple reasons. the most famous one is global warming, but ocean acidification due to the formation of carbonic acid is also a serious issue which treatens to ruin the oceanic ecosystems.
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>>128497817
>Donald Trump is getting out of the paris agreement, which means he is basically vowing to increase CO2 emissions = real news.

Where did he say he was vowing to increase CO2 emissions? Unless it came from his fucking mouth, its fake news.
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>>128498945
Failed us rather.
Maybe inbuilt.
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>>128489621
>Christians are more cucked than faggots
Thanks for the info
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>>128498574
But it will be used for that. Our prime minister is pro lgbt, so he will naturally sympathize with those of that group. People with even remotely different views are a constant target of the government and media.
You're an Israeli, you wouldn't understand how things are like in Canada.
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>>128495596
Kids living under adoptive White households are generally far more intelligent than their peers and are more conservative.

I don't think its wrong, as long as you've had at least one child already, or you/your spouse are infertile. You give them a better life, increase the likelihood of conservative ideals spreading, and decrease the burden on society.
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>>128498574
You said you were leaving deceiver.
Fuck off you're not welcome here.
Or anywhere.
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Leafs why don't yous try and fight this bill? Why not make a huge ruckus out of it and get them to back the fuck down.
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>>128484010
I can't do this anymore.
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>>128496384

You will never be attacked by muslims as you are instigating sharia for them.
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>>128498980
Why didn't you say that water holds heat better?

Also, the same restrictions are not imposed on China or India. Who are, don't forget, paid by the US to do what they are already doing.
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>>128486402
God bless you!
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>>128499192
>iceland

You're fine though. r..right?
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>>128499085
So you attack the bill based on completely unbased assumptions. got it.

Almost no one on the left supports taking away children from christian families just because they have anti-lgbt views.
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>>128486402
God wills it
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>>128498980
>getting out of it still essentially means the US is not going to reduce CO2 emissions like what the rest of the world is doing.
If by "reduce" you mean "slightly less than they would have otherwise produced" then sure. But it's not enough to make any functional difference, so why bother? Why do something so burdensome if it doesn't fix the problem? Much political behavior is just there to make people feel like they are good people, without having to actually do anything. I think this is just such an example.
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>>128499265
China cancelled over 100 coal plants and they invest billions in green energy. that are ACTUALLY doing the change they promised to do

I'm not sure what India is doing so i can't comment
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>>128498302
by definition, a "scary black rifle" is not an assault rifle
I mean, people tend to do the same mistake here, but god damn do you have to be retarded to have it classified as such in the legislation
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>>128498574
fuck off zvi
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>>128484010
>5 year old son: "daddy, I told mr. Shekelburg that girls have cooties, so he called me genderfluid and force fed me estrogen pills"
>wtf no I'll have to speak with zher
>get arrested for hate speech and have child taken away from you

Thus is life as a Cancuck. LEAF'D
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>>128493241
White babies bring a premium. Off colored ones are within most potential adopters price range.
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>>128484010
those leaf fuckers should be thanking Allah that i dont live in Canada.
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>>128499360
>Almost no one on the left supports taking away children from christian families just because they have anti-lgbt views.
I personally know several who do. They think Christians are bad, and bad people ought not to raise children. And I'm in the West, where it's not as bad.
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>>128499484
Last I heard they're smashing toilets in protest of something or other.
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>>128499305
How do you cope with living in a country far worse than Sweden? I'd honestly kill myself, I just couldn't take it
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>>128484010
If this is true, taking children is the definition of tyranny. I fully expect Canadians to do nothing but lick boot.
>>128486402
>Looks like it's time to add some more stars to the flag.
If they ever get the right to vote they'll fuck us over just like the niggers.
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>>128499446
You should bother because the US are the biggest polluters in the world compared to the size of the population.

China has 5 times more people than the US yet the emissions of both countries are comparable
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>>128484010
Is there a place to petition against this?
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>>128499484
And I suppose this really outweighs all the new people who are buying cars and tech products over there?

I really think acceleration is needed. Get to the self-sustainable point ASAP.
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>>128488268
Step 1) Move to America. Step 2) Nothing else required.
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>>128486402
>>128486402
it was meant to be, exclaves must always be resolved
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>>128486402
I'd only take Alberta
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>>128499718
I'm living day by day, saving up to do
>>128499827
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>>128496999
Or, maybe, we should just airdrop some supplies to the oppressed White Canadians and give them some F35s.
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>>128499827
I wouldn't move to America now if i were him.

Your economy is going to go through a severe recession somewhere in 2018~2020.

Jews won the most nobel prizes for economics, so trust me on this.
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>>128497817
obvious bait. Try again schlomo
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>>128495625
Dont mean to be presumptuous brazilbro but isn't Brazil really fucked up? Educate the burger who knows nothing of the dynamics of South America
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>>128499718
I'm familiar with Sweden too, since my family is of Swedish descent. I think Sweden is still a little worse (they apprehend your children if you homeschool, e.g.)

But yeah, it's almost as bad. Even the right-wing politicians make marxist statements all the time. It's kindof depressing, but my family and church are good, so I'm not in a kill-myself situation... more of a kill-the-government situation.
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>>128499777
checked

go here, make sure this does not pass

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Home/Index
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>>128500027
>so trust me on this.
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>>128500425
K, don't trust me.
But when the recession will happen, remember that you heard it first from me.

2018-2020, thats the timeframe its going to happen at.
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>>128484010
Wait, so is it gay people who want to adopt? If so this won't happen very much.
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>>128499732
>China has 5 times more people than the US yet the emissions of both countries are comparable
Do you really believe that's because of China's green conscience? I think it's more likely due to differing industries. But more to the point, you haven't really answered why it matters if it can't fix the problem, or even partially fix it?
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>>128500425
I dunno, if a kike predicts a recession targeted at countries that are nationalist, I'd be inclined to believe him.
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>>128484010
That's a justification for a political murder.
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>>128500340
>https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Home/Index
>no results
[meltdown intensifies]
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>>128500642
The answer is simple:
You would rather smash into the wall driving 40 kilometers per hour than smashing into the wall driving your car at 90 kilometers per hour.

The more gradual the change will be, the less catastrophic it will be.
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>>128500774
It's fake news tho so it won't do anything.

The bill doesn't actually say anything about taking away children from parents with anti lgbt views
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>>128500775
then make one
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>>128500565
The economy won't matter then because we'll be in a war big enough that no one will notice.
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>>128500917
For a Jew, you're a terrible lawyer.
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>>128484010
SOLUTION

SAY: "Homosexuality is Haram, sorry but I'll follow Allah"

Then they'll tell you they're sorry and leave
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>>128500832
I've read a fair amount of the literature. The changes will be very gradual in all instances. It more like: would you like your extremely-low-elevation property to go down in value 1% per year or 0.8% per year?
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>>128484010
I used to play around with the idea of moving to a shithole third world latin american country which is usually super christian.

Ive went so far as visited the dominican republix with my family and as of now im in it right now.

News like this REALLY make me consider buying property in the gated communities and retiring over here.

Dominican republix is strongly christian and overtly hates gays and blacks which is since the population is black but it shows they value white traits

This place is a shithole and the government is corrupt, but at least they don't value muslims and gays and want to take your kids or thought police your shit

I am genuinely worried for my canadian neighbors and i pray for you.
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>>128499732
>Emissions are comparable
China emits way more pollution than we do. Most of our pollution comes from our transportation problem. We have a wide swathe of open nothingness that must be passed to get to work.

China's got considerably better public transport due to the size of their cities and how many people live per square mile. Meanwhile New York City, were it to be a European city, would be only the 7th densest, and European cities are far less densely populated than Asian cities.

It's hard to find work within biking, let alone walking, distance, and there's nowhere in the US where you would rather bike to work than drive, either because of extreme heat or extreme cold.
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>>128501088
Anon, haven't you seen the thread?

The entire article is completely fake since the bill says nothing about taking away children from families with anti-lgbt views
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>>128500939
Man.. I've never made a petition before. I don't know how to interpret the law either. So I believe I'm not in a position to start a petition on something which has effects I cannot accurately predict.

We need a smarter individual to create the petition.
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WHERE CAN YOU FIND THE HOME ADDRESSES OF CANADIAN POLITICIANS TO PUT PRESSURE ON THEM WITH PARENT GROUPS?

Angry parents are the best option here.
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>>128484010
>Muslims and sihks are exempt
Well there's your loophole

>Hello sir, we're from child protective services. In light of some recent homophobic postings you have made on social media, we'll be seizing custody of your children
>I'm a muslim
>Sir we have you on file as a Christian
>No no, I'm a recent convert. Sorry guys, but I'm going to have to ask you to leave

The only way to stop muzzies from being a protected class is to exploit the same loopholes that protect them

Also, if I were taken from my parents and given over to a couple of faggot strangers, I don't think it would improve my opinion of faggots. This law seems kind of counterproductive.
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>>128500917
>everything I don't like is fake news
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>>128501220

Like i would trust a jew.

Like the saying goes, where there is smoke there is fire.

So even if this is fake the spirit of that nation is surely heading toward making it a reality
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>>128493241
white mans burden
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>>128486402
Quebec can stay
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>>128497428
>As I explained in the last thread as well, CPS in Hamilton, Ontario took children away from parents who refused to lie to their children and tell them that Santa Claus was real because of some bullshit about how it deprived the children of an essential tenet of childhood and was practically emotional abuse.

There is no way these children were not put into the hands of child abusers.
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ATTENTION LEAFS

----------

step 1: go here -> https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Home/Index
step 2: make petition to stop this fucked bill
step 3: sign petition
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>>128501474
Don't trust me, read the actual part of the bill which details what children qualify as "children in need of protection".

It says nothing about taking away children from parents with anti-lgbt views

There, i gave you a screenshot of it in case you are too lazy to look at the actual bill.

If you want to read the entire bill, have it here:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&BillID=4479&detailPage=bills_detail_the_bill
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>>128486402
Thoughts on replacing California?
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>>128484010
>Muslims/Sikhs are exempt because the bill is worded to consider the child's "creed".

How is this giving Muslims and Sikhs a free pass but doesn't apply to Christians?
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>>128501870
sounds good to me, NorthCal can stay but SoCal can go to mexico
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>>128498489
Please not Minnesota. We almost turned in 2016. There is still hope.
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>>128501861
Quoting anon from the other thread.
>Uhhh.... It is part of the consideration process, anon. The loose definition clearly states that if the child suffered emotional harm categorized by a number of symptoms(which all fall under body dysphoria) then they are to be taken away.

>Remember we are dealing with children here. They are easily swayed by media.
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>>128501870
Canada
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>>128500695
This goy's got the right idea
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>>128486402
God, I fucking wish. When I retire it's my plan to tour the States and never leave.
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>>128499484
Why do you need to lie all the time, jew?
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>>128502162
Do you have a wish to drink poisoned water? because that's the US for you

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-lead-testing/

"By M.B. Pell and Joshua Schneyer

Filed Dec. 19, 2016, 2 p.m. GMT
A Reuters examination of lead testing results across the country found almost 3,000 areas with poisoning rates far higher than in the tainted Michigan city. Yet many of these lead hotspots are receiving little attention or funding."

But i see no outrage about this in /pol/ because /pol/ doesn't want to criticize their beloved right-wing president
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>>128484010
This is really very bad.
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>>128502400
It's also fake news.
See >>128501861

the bill says nothing about taking away children from parents with anti-lgbt views
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>>128502394
Who the fuck drinks tap water?
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>>128502570
A shit ton of people including me
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>>128502488
oy vey
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>>128501861
You're being paid for every ((you)) you get dont you? Read this again you devil pedo enabler.>>128496716 >>128497428

Fuck you. I hope you know who you are defending, you will probably be punished for eternity in the afterlife for this.
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>>128501088
come home white man
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>>128502629
No wonder you're mentally disabled.
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>>128502855
>>128502855
Literally the only criticism you have of the bill is that the definition of "emotional abuse" is vague

The "Lifesitenews" article claims the bill is about taking away children from parents with anti-LGBT views, which is a completely fabricated claim
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>>128502394
>>128502488
>>128502629
>Blames Republicans for the actions of democrats
>Not even an American
>A fucking jew, an isrealli jew
Its almost like you think your opinion matters.
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>>128486402
Please!!
I'll gladly help you, if anyone tries to take my children away I'll lose my fucking mind
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>>128503075
Trump removed rules that prevent coal companies from polluting water sources. basically, now it's perfectly legal for coal companies to poison americans by polluting rivers and water sources
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/319938-trump-signs-bill-undoing-obama-coal-mining-rule
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/16/donald-trump-nixes-obama-regulations-coal-industry/

There, i showed you a legislation directly promoted by trump that poisons your drinking water.

Have fun
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>>128495720
is there any actually organized political movement for it?

we'd have ugly as fuck borders though
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>>128496198
>When you try to save the rare but you already have it
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>>128503061
No one should have the power to take children away, unless there is real harm. Not your jewish feefee bullshit, but actual abuse.
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>>128502488
Oh good, thank you greatest ally, although I'm still concerned about the language here and how it could be used to take a child whose parents refuse to "treat" the child's "gender dysphoria" with hormones and surgery.
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>>128503228
Canada is owned by the Crown if I understand correctly. I'm pretty sure we'd need to first wait for Brexit, establish some ceremonial commitment being an Anglosphere, and then work out a deal with the UK (or perhaps a multilateral deal, in show of being an Anglosphere.)
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>>128503325
Have another friend
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>>128503181
Why do you care jew? Do you hate how Americans can make their own decisions without your jewish influence.
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>>128484010
Where does it say this in the act?
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>>128486402
I already told my family when this goes down I plan on being part of the 5th column.
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>>128503719
Don't be mean to the Jew, they might radicalize and become a terrorist.
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>>128496616
He probably tells them where to hit.
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>>128503181
Okay I've decided that I'll wait and see what this bill does.
The first instance of a forceful removal of a child based on anything lgbt/religious, and I'm going to shit on the fan.
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>>128498037
Yep, here we go...
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>>128496096
Kek good analogy.
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>>128499047
Most Christians who adopt also have biological children of their own

Also, I guess this means you're degenerate and think one should divorce their wife or husband for infertility instead of trying to raise another conservative child who would otherwise be burden on the taxpayer and likely go into crime and vote for liberal handouts because they weren't raised.
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>>128496716
>>128495730
Leaf is right you weird cube. "Emotional damage" is pretty open to interpretation by (((the afflicted))).
>my dad is so weird, he said he "hates them fags" or some shut
>government mandated communication device that is installed in all rooms in educational institutions beeps, signalling incoming communication
>Billy and Tim roll their eyes and sigh
>Trudeau's face appears on the screen
>Well hey there my little dudes. Our sensors detected a <*VERBAL HATECRIME*> in this area. Tell your ol buddy Justin all about it!
Canada's future is coming
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If this doesn't show you how demented the regressive left is nothing will... Mind viruses are real. Slippery slope is real.
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Did anyone make a petition, thread version 2 needs to be made soon *******
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>>128503325
I feel ya anon, I'm nearing the end of my collection and it makes me sad when I have already collected a rare.

I even had >>128501870
Finally a Nevada county and I've already got it.
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>>128499555
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>>128501429
Christ this kikery knows no end.
#GetOutOfMyGamesNormie
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Why the fuck did you assholes let this happen?
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>>128505576
I'm sorry anonymous, you didn't deserve this
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>>128484010
Bump.
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