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Daily reminder that introversion is a character flaw in humans

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Daily reminder that introversion is a character flaw in humans
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>>128466082
daily reminder to kill yourself
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>>128466082
It seems like a valid form of being.

That guy hasn't spontaneously combusted from being too socially awkward.
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>>128466082
Im highly extroverted and there is nothing worse than knowing 90% of people are shit and when you talk to them it sounds like a parrot talking back at you.


There is no worse hell then being extroverted but having to act introverted because I'm tired of all these faggots
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>>128466082
Introversion = social interactions drain you.
Shyness, social anxiety = social interactions scare you.
There are of course shy introverts, but it's far from being a tight correlation.
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>>128467176
Thank christ I already don't like talking to people because boy are they annoying.
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>>128466082

> having a psyche hinged on the interactions of a largely degenerating society is a character flaw

Sure lad.
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Yeah and that's why most of the greatest scientists, theorists, architects, and artists were introverts and didn't follow the herd.
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who here is introvert and who extrovert?

i'm introvert.
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>on the internet nobody knows you're a dog
Yes we do OP. Nice projecting.
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>>128469053
me2.
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>>128466082
I'm pretty extroverted and still find people to be intolerable to be around.

They are loud stupid and drunk 80% of the time. I just lack like minded peers
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>>128466082
I would be an extrovert but I basically hate 90% of people

How can you even want to talk to people that aren't really redpilled?

Do you want to honestly have a conversation with a girl you don't intend to date/fuck/marry?

The only thing I like to talk about is politics, philosophy, religion and thats basically what Americans never talk about
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>>128469053
You're also a faggot, a subhuman, and a sniveling kike.
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Introversion is just another word for being normal.
It's the extroverted who are nuts. Dancing is for women, getting drunk is for degenerates, speaking loudly or laughing loudly is for idiots. Stoicism is the philosophy of any real man.
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>>128466082
Does not wanting to partake in degenerate behavior make me introverted?
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>>128466082
Humans are boring desu
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>>128466082
INTROVERSION != SHYNESS
INTROVERSION != HATING PEOPLE
INTROVERSION != HATING SOCIAL ACTIVITIES

FUCK.
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"Introvert" is a synonym for "boring".
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Shy, introverted and blackpilled. Don't think there could be a worse mix.
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>>128469053

im introvert but i would be in the middle of that gang dancing because drunk
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>>128469262
>The only thing I like to talk about is politics, philosophy, religion and thats basically what Americans never talk about

This exactly
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>>128466082
>Daily reminder that introversion is a character flaw in humans

Daily reminder you enjoy modern-day amenities thanks to the introvert spergs like Tesla, Newton, Einstein, etc.
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>>128466082
Used to be an extrovert when I was a kid

Turned into an introvert in high school because I realized 99% of people are degenerate unthinking niggers and the group of 5 friends I've had since then are the only people I've ever found to be worth communicating with
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>>128469262
i've had some amazing talks about those 3 topics with americans, more than with any other people

they were fulbright scholars tho, and surprisingly conservative for someone in academia
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>>128469549
yea i become social when i'm drunk too. only way i can become social. i cant handle more than 2 people without it.
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>>128466082
someone had to live on the fringes of the tribe as an early warning against predators and rival tribes
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>>128466082
That is some high intelligence trait you wouldn't understand.
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>>128469342
i think you're overreacting.
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>>128469519
Work on not being blackpilled and not stressing out over conversations. Other than that there's nothing wrong with being introverted.
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>>128466082
Reminder that adapting to inferior r-selected people is also a flaw.
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>>128469549
nah you're just norsk
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>>128466082
What you see in the picture is just the Shepard watching over the herd. Normies will never know what life outside the pen looks like.
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>>128469426
You have no idea how wrong you are
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>>128469963
...fullbright scholars are not the average american
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>>128469484
Man you must be fun at debates.
Do not confuse being introvert with being stupid, please.
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Considering humans are built for servitude and easily fall to click whirr style of propaganda to the point where they get massacred without consequence throughout history, I think introversion is probably for the best
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American Normie Conversations

>Gee the fucking weather Bill
>How are the kids?
>Let me tell you about an injury/illness I have
>You watch that sports game?
>You watch this stupid ass TV show?
>You listen to this gay ass music?
>HURR DURR TRUMP
>Remember that time we got drunk?
>Wow this type of food is delicious
>I want to fuck __X__
>I want to buy __X__

Talking with people is the fucking worst.

Arguing about political issues is the only time its fun. But most people are so butthurt when you argue that they can't compartmentalize it and automatically hate you.

So I just basically don't talk about anything

Its much better at a party where there is an activity. So you can just focus on that. Like beer pong or cards or some shit. Then you can make witty banter based on the game...or flirt with a chick.
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I hate all people equally and I'm introverted.

Where do I fit?
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>>128466082
THAT KID IS BEING FUCKING ALPHA.

OTHER KID BOWING DOWN TO THE VAGINA IS BEING BETA
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sry bro's but i just can't fuck zombies. So it's a munks life for me.
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>>128466082
Why do normies think shaming about socializing will make people want to socialize with them?

>We are pricks who pressure you into doing shit, spend more time around us

Fuck off, I got a wife and kids, I've filled my social contract. Stay off my property faggot.
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>>128467176
I know your feel bro

Being extroverted and redpilled/conservative while living in the city sucks so much ass.
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Most humans are fucking shit
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>>128466082
Normies participate in shared delusions. Be it religion or left wing politics. Theses delusions start out as noble lies that help society function.

If the delusion goes from being a noble lie to a social malignancy someone has to be outside the bubble to notice it happening.

Introverts are a necessary evil. You won't make it without us.
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>>128466082
Extroverts shouldn't act like a bunch of snow chimps then senpai.
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>>128470918
So much this
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>>128470112
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
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Next time you talk to anyone take note of the amount of times they begin talking about themselves in response to whatever topic is brought up

It's fucking infuriating. I can't imagine being a normalfag
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>>128469484
Extrovert is a synonym for superficial.

Imagine life as a chessgame. You always play against weaker or equal opponents and you are not getting better with this. You only get better when you play against better players.
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>>128470112
Don't listen to them Greatest ally. I still <3 you.
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>>128466082
>Brown man mingling and dancing with the white qt's
>will probably fuck one of them afterwards
>white boy sits in the corner and watches
seems about right
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>>128467176
>There is no worse hell then being extroverted but having to act introverted because I'm tired of all these faggots


nailed it
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>>128470134
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being introverted. It'd be worse to be a shy extrovert because they actually do want to talk to people. I don't for the most part.
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>>128469053
I don't really know desu. I have no problems with beginning a converstation with people and doing some polite small talk but I just cannot go deeper and be more witty, especially in groups
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>>128472096
>I can't imagine being a normalfag.

Funny enough you brought up talking about yourself in response to the topic you brought up.
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>>128469426

This basically.

Being a social butterfly is an effeminate quality. No idea why I keep seeing this degeneracy on /pol/ of all places.

And no, Stacey won't fuck you for your "good personality". I'm 6'2" with a good build and by that fact alone I get all the Stacey's I could ever need. How does that make you feel, beautiful little butterfly?
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>>128467176
This.

As an ENTP with an IQ of 145, speaking to the average person bores me out of my mind. I can see through everyone as if they are made of glass, which admittedly has its benefits (with females for example) but is overall very depressing.

Introverts should be thrown off of cliffs.
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>>128472655
It's a tough life
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>>128466082
literally who cares? :DD
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>>128469426
>t. 19 year old fat virgin internet obsessed retard buttblasted he never got to dance, get drunk and make jokes with the popular kids
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>>128466082
Any gift that keeps a man separated from the world is a blessing, not a curse. The world is a passing thing, a dream from which all men must eventually wake. To focus your entire being on the dream is to love the things of shadow and dust. We are a single breath, a moment of time which is gone the moment is has begun and shall never come again into this world. Cast your eyes unto eternity, my friends. Do not be seduced by the crude protestations of flesh. Are you a beast that you should be concerned with the filling of your belly and the spilling of your seed? Then go run with the dogs and live with them. Leave the world of Men to the men.
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>>128467176
Feel ya. Go out constantly because, as an extrovert, I am energized when people are around. Strike up conversation with anyone and everyone, but most people under the age of 35 have had so few life experiences they're dull as a box of rocks, or espousing beliefs I've heard ten thousand times before

ENTJ master race, by the way.
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Daily reminder forced memes like this one are a cancer on this board.
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>>128469963
Din ce oras esti?
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>>128472449
i heart you too

>>128472014
that's poetic
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>>128473136
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>>128473167
>Introverts should be thrown off of cliffs.
ENTPs were a fucking mistake.
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>>128472096
I hate to break it to you but usually the only things people can talk about are the things they've experienced.
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>>128466082

Never seen this photo without Wojak's head attached to the kid's body.

>>128469484

Just like "Norway" is a synonym for "cuck".
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I would consider myself an introvert because I have no real friends at all and spend most of my free time in my workshop. When I was a teenager that made me really depressed because I thought there was something wrong with me.
Now I am happy with what I do. Being alone gives me time to think about thinks that I am interestet in and to reflect on myself.
I love to have conversations but only meaningfull ones that that intrest me. This sometimes makes me feel like a dick because when I am around people who don´t share intrest with me I am completly silent and try not to look bored.
When it comes to going out my first expiriences were pretty akward and I thought I could never dance infront of other people. Later I realised that I just need the right kind of music to let myself go.
This again makes me feel like an asshole because I am so selctive about what I like and I have a hard time just playing along to please other peoples interests.
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>>128470918
100x this, fuck normies
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>>128471088
>BOWING TO THE VAGINA
i like this
meme this
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>>128466082
Introverted individuals must be purged
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>>128470918

It's called "making a conversation" and "socializing" and "breaking the ice"

It's something you autist wouldn't know
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>>128472629
>white qt's
Sorry, are we looking at the same picture?
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>ITT: everyone I don't like is a degenerate.

Christ, threads like this are awful.
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>>128466082
introversion is a dominant trait among the population. Humans are not evolutionally fit to live in big societies, encountering strangers, interacting with unknown people all the time. Its an evolutionary trait to avoid overcrowding.
Introvert males do not pick females base solely on their looks, because in small societies you usually pick a female for life, not for 5 minutes.
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>>128474044
austist
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>>128466082
It's a cultural thing. In American society being introverted is a highly stigmatized trait, in most others not so.

Widespread American reputation for being stupid ignorant people may or may not be caused by this.
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Introvert master race here. Why you retards act like brainwashed fags desperate to fit in and suck societys multicultural dick . people like me completely notice how stupid you all look and refuse to follow you . i would bet most genuis's and intellectuals are introvert . we actually use our brains
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>>128474579

Funny thing is your words don't cow or hurt non-social butterflies. We are immune to group-think and peer pressure.

Tell me again who's flawed? Most mistakes in human history are directly traceable back to the seemingly infinite willingness of 'outgoing people' to be led like cows by the popular will.
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>>128473433
>social shaming

you are being studied and found out normie, your tricks are archived.
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>>128474044
>spend most of my free time in my workshop.
>flag
Hans, you sound completely normal to me.
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>>128466082
Think back to the Roman Empire. Out of all the philosophers who come to mind, who popped into your head first. Oh that's right, this guy. He knew where it was at.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IHaE-TXbZQ

Nah, true europeans aren't meant to live with too much people. Niggers love social life.
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>>128475303
We all have our flaws.

If socialization doesn't fill the existential void, there are always other means of distraction and/or fulfillment.
You're just a faggot if you think yours is the only right way.
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>>128470918
Those are conversations you have with people you don't really know all too well. I have a bunch of friends in a fraternity. I'll go over every now and then to have some fun. We'll get wasted and start talking about politics etc.. they may be somewhat retarded, but they do talk about it, and I enjoy sharing info with them. Whether they think I'm a smart ass or not is a different story though lmao
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>>128466082
>flaw
Have fun with those HIV coalbuners,
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>>128472236
This
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>>128467176
Couldn't have said it better myself
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>>128466082
Untrue. Without introverts we would be USSR tier. If everyone was extroverts everyone would be USA degenerate tier.
It's almost as retarded a claim as "betas are flawed". Betas follow, they don't lead. If everyone tried to lead because they were an alpha nothing would get done because everyone would constantly fight for leadership.
Please execute yourself or go back to /b/, I don't mind which.
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>>128475762
>Diogenes
>Roman Empire

The first i thought was Marcus Aurelius

>>128466082
This thread was a daily reminder that /pol/ is filled with edgy teens
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>>128477732
I guess the school year just ended, it's not usually this bad
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>>128475258
I feel like one of the flaws of introverts is that it's hard for them to portray all of their ideas to other people. I feel like the acme of this sort of thing would be somebody who thinks for themselves, but is able to set the example for others. H.P. Lovecraft was a brilliant writer, but he only received his fame after death because he had low self-esteem, which caused him to never take his books to publishers and have them shared with the rest of the world.
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>>128469053
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>>128473167
>ENTP

You're literally just a garage sale ENTJ.
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>>128466082
>introversion is a character flaw
>humans evolved over millions and millions of years
Pick one
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The only reason I'm introverted is because everyone around me is either a liberal slut or cuckold.
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>>128475988
nah normie, it just sounded like you were selectively ostracizing introverts exclusively
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>>128466082
One person mentions a binary concept, adds some insult. Then people align on one or the other side and start to argue.
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>>128467176
This
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INTJ here

You could safely argue that. After all, what's the point of introversion if humans are psychologically incapable of accurately assessing their skill base anyway? After all, thought itself is just a measure of anxiety. Most introverts are beta because they lack intuitive spontaneity. They're a literal drag to be around, and most have hidden pretentions of exclusivity and the rates of depression amongst them prove that on a primal level, they're unfit to live.

On the other hand I deduced that largely due my introversive tendencies and my primal usefulness could be equipping others with knowledge necessary for survival,

Unfortunately I just prefer quite, secluded places and find most social gatherings to me extremely obnoxious, shallow, and constantly running over the same tread of ground until a fight breaks out to establish dominance an a hierarchy that doesn't actually exist anyway.

Dunno, extroverts typically yammer non-stop when there's really no problem in acknowledging that your voice isn't really worth a fuck.
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>>128467176

I've always thought that I was an introvert but I think I just might be what you are.

A tired extrovert.
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>>128480352
I'm an INTJ as well and have similar sentiments to you.

I don't like socializing unless it's necessary, as I find that socializing is just people constantly seeking reassurance and validation.

If you don't really need either, it all seems rather pointless.
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>>128469053

Introvert because the majority of people are annoying, uninteresting faggots. I don't get my kicks from partying with strangers, or going out and spending cash.

I'd rather have a couple close friends, stay home, and just chill.

I don't need other people and social status to be or feel fulfilled.
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>>128466082
Daily reminder that NO ONE wants to interact with other people except for solving their problems and fucking. If it weren't for these two needs extroverts would be introverts.
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>>128467176
What has that todo with intro- or extroversion? There are other factors causing what you describe. For example if someone is calm or excited. If someone feels observed or not. Just to mention e few.
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>>128480873
>socializing is just people seeking reassurance and validation

A lot of the time, yeah.
I do enjoy interacting with people though. I mean they're a part of life with a potentially alien way of looking at the world, and that's always interesting to me, just low on my priorities due to how emotionally exhausting it is maintaining an extensive social network.
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>>128481329
So therefore it is impossible to *make the decision* to interact with someone where no problem-solving or fucking is involved. You may wanna rethink that.
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>>128467176
>>128469262

>ENFP, so extroverted
>bored with talking to normalfags, so being around them is a drag.
>enjoys sharing information with normies, including red pill bombs from a clear blue sky

Nothing like watching a normies eyes as they capitulate internally because they know I'm right.

MFW
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>>128466082
yes, but it allows for more contemplation and therefore more coherent thought
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>>128466082
Much more so for men.
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>>128481977
Socrates would disagree in that thought must be vocalized and subjugated to discourse for refinement.
I see his point.
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>>128481806
Deep down you know that you can't stand people and all you really want is to rule a self-sufficient island with a few close bros and a harem of sex slaves.
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>>128467176
great bait my dude
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>>128477496
Introversion IS a flaw. It is a failure to be alpha-aggressive, and thus a failure to be the most genetically fit in a social sense. It is a failure to compete on the social level.

It isn't a death sentence, and introverts can still be enormously productive, but it is a flaw.

Actually, come to think of it, it isn't a flaw so long as you are still alpha, which is possible in that you can certainly picture a rugged, strong man who dislikes company but commands respect from others in a dominant way i.e. they fear him.
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>>128466082
There's no such thing as full introversion or extroversion. Beta autists just like to rationalise that they introverts so they have an excuse to be beta autists that are too scared to talk to women.
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>>128482406
Yes but I'm not sure he was advocating dance floor degeneracy
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>>128473167
holy fuck you mustn't have much friends
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>>128466082
Being a popular slut is what it's all about.
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>>128483034
It is purported that he and other Ancient Greek philosophers would regularly sip wine with LSA.
I'm sure orgies were another common occurance though.
Then again, he might not even exist.
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>>128469484
More like introverts are bored by you
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>>128469053
I appeared somewhat extrovert until I was 11 i.e. until I went to secondary school.
It's weird. I dominated over my classmates until that time. I was the toughest person in the year and they acknowledged it. I had some challengers from other groups, but it never came to anything. By the time I was in the final year of primary school, 10 years old or so, there were a few friends much bigger than me, who could probably have pummelled me, yet they still submitted to my dominance. And these were kids from council estates, not soft rich kids.
Yet I was an introvert with respect to other groups, e.g. the "cool" girls and the few guys who they'd talk to. I wouldn't go and speak to them.

By the time I moved to secondary school I was on my own surrounded by stranger groups again; and the introversion dominated my personality I think.
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>>128473167
You can "see" through everyone, just not yourself and how much of a boring, useless, sad cunt you are.
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>>128482555
Well, then thank you for speaking out your insights.
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>>128483034
>dancing is degenerate
Spotted the virgin
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>>128466082
It's not so much a flaw as it is that the personality ecology of the modern urban environment penalizes introversion whereas in our ancestral environment, introversion would have been a more appropriate social strategy.

Cities are fucking weird. You're marinating in people, in complete and utter strangers, and the only way for millions of apes to coexist peacefully in concrete hives is for all of them to be politely indifferent to one another. People only acknowledge each other's existence for momentary purpose or commercial transaction, or if you have a mutual friend or acquaintance, in which case you suddenly enter a social universe existing parallel to countless others within the same city. You're no longer bound to the people who happen to live or were born in the same geographic locale. You can extend webs of relationships across mountains and oceans and genuinely be much better friends with someone who lives in a different country than most of your immediate neighbours.

This is an alien environment, full of strange and unfamiliar people, where success is often dependent on creating good social relations with strange and unfamiliar people, and introversion is a major handicap. You all hate small talk because you think it's pointless, but it's simply a way of sanity checking someone you don't know well and establishing cordial and friendly relations by demonstrating your own sanity and social skill. Extroverts have real conversations and discussions all the time, even more so than introverts do, but they also do have a lot more superficial conversations which is more akin to social grooming than it is to a genuine exchange of information.
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>>128483718
this
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>>128483527
They don't look foolish in bed, which really is what matters
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>>128481329
That's a bad attitude to have!
>https://youtu.be/C16L3Z8oI_E?t=113
01:55 - 03:08

Being a part of a "tribe" is incredibly important. Probably the most important thing in life, in my opinion. A key ingredient to a healthy psyche.
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>>128482653
>they fear him

Fear based respect is never genuine, this is why tyranny and the alpha male complex is doomed to subversion or ostracization
Lonely at the "top" as they say
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>>128466082
Introverts and extroverts are better at different things. Extroverts make better rulers, leaders, or anything involving managing people directly.

However, a great many skills (including nearly all intellectual ones) require extensive individual practice and contemplation in order to properly develop. Roles requiring these skills are still vital to a functioning community.

Thus, introversion is a character trait, not a character flaw.
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>>128470918

Jordan Peterson on people like you:

> "Because you aren't good at listening and then carefully and attentively broadening the conversation. This may in part be because you are cynical with regards to the beginnings of social interaction. Why should strangers offer you anything of real value or take a risk with you until you have demonstrated your ability to handle simple social tasks competently (say without sarcasm or dismissiveness)? So they start off trading in pennies to check you out. You can be virtually certain, as well, that if you find initial small talk boring then the people who are boring you find you, in turn, awkward, charmless, equally boring and perhaps even a bit narcissistic."
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I was shy growing up - probably due to being an only child - but now people accuse me of being anti-social. I'm too shy to tell them I've been standing to the side studying them to see if they're worth talking to. Most aren't.
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>>128483555
>It is purported that he and other Ancient Greek philosophers would regularly sip wine with LSA.
That's a Joe Rogan topic of discussion if I've ever heard one.
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>>128466082
You know /pol/ is mostly INTJs and INTPs? Right?
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>>128484645
Lol, definitely. Not certain of the claim's authenticity, but I do recall my philosophy professor saying Socrates was a bit of a party animal.
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the funny thing is most extroverts are shitty conversationalists.

and being funny doesn't count. constantly throwing jokes around doesn't mean anything
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>>128466082
daily reminder that those females in the photo are literal prostitutes
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>>128467908
Very few people understand the "draining" part. Thanks for being one of them.

t. a shy introvert
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>>128466082
who /confident-introvert/ here?

> No shyness
> Walk and speak with confidence
> Keep yourself to yourself
> Small close friend group, minimal to no acquaintances
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>>128484401
we've crossed the fine line of small talk being an introduction to real conversations

now it's all small talks
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>>128484336
>Fear based respect is never genuine
Fear is respect, in a certain sense. A very deep respect. A respect of their ability to pummel you, regardless of whether you respect the other aspects of them.
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>>128466283
Genuine question, why is intoversion treated as being synonymous with being socially awkward? I'm personally not awkward, I just don't like being around people. One of the coolest people I've ever met was a person that for the first two years I knew of them, I had never heard their voice.
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>>128485152
my nigga
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>>128469262
I have NOTHING in common with normies.

If you haven't choked on a few redpills then fuck off you degenerate zombie jew
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>>128467908
What if i have both?
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>>128485152
You're not alone, man.
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>>128480352
I respect what you've written here
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Not only are normies painful to be around, they're actively destroying society with their ignorance.

Everyone wants to blame the jews but the real problem is the masses.
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i think he would look more pathetic as the guy in the hat looking up at the girls who are only looking at each other. he's quenching his thirst w water and waiting for mommy to pick him from the lame-o party so he can go fap to girls who are actually hot on the internet.
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Too many self-purported "intellectuals" in this thread relying on their Briggs-Myers personality test letters. That test was made up 60 years ago by two dumb bimbos and has no basis in science. You might as well be talking about how extroverted you are because you're a Gemini or how the fucking the planets were aligned when you were born.
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>>128483890
>You all hate small talk because you think it's pointless, but it's simply a way of sanity checking someone you don't know well and establishing cordial and friendly relations by demonstrating your own sanity and social skill. Extroverts have real conversations and discussions all the time, even more so than introverts do, but they also do have a lot more superficial conversations which is more akin to social grooming than it is to a genuine exchange of information.

I think this is an important point.

I think back on England's recent history, more so in the time before the 20th century:
How many upper class men, or aspiring upper class men, have lived who hated the upper class small talk and the etiquette but engaged in it anyway because they recognised it as a form of belonging to that privileged class to which they liked belonging in.

I remember a story of an English army high-up wondering in the desert with a few of his men, and he crossed, out of the blue, a similar cohort of men, lead by an equally respectable man from England, heading in a different direction, and he thought to himself "crap, I'm going to have to say Hello and do some small talk"
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>>128486469
Upper class and upper middle class British society is piss.

Say what you want about the proles, but at least it's more real. No if only we could find a balance between coarse stupidity and the middle class way and we'd be onto something.
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