Leaving the /pol/ mentality

>>128436331
I have gone more clockwise, starting from 11.00 and are now around 14.15

>>128436331
I was in one before last from the start in here and I'm still there after few years

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>>128436331
I find myself going further left, economically.

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>>128436331
Ive always been a conservative but now its just made me more hardcore

The modern world is shit are deserves to be totally remade

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>>128436331
>Nat Soc
>Evolved

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before /pol/ I was very progressive minded and would share many ideas with sjws.
now I would consider myself a fascist.
funny how things change sometimes

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>>128437859

This. National socialism did not work in the long run.
The true redpill is the to learn the physical removal art.

Did any one of you actually read the text? I've left /pol/. Pic related is the road I took, but it's not where I am now. The point of the thread is to discuss leaving /pol/ and how we came to believe this shit.

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>>128436331
I've always been a centrist shill, however I really value /pol/ for the way its cemented that in me, by the fact i grew exposed to both the violent extremes of mainstream left media and well, pol.

That said, a lot of ex pol or vet pol peeps, I consider to be pretty high value people in regard to their belief systems, well, cept the people who migrate to storm

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>>128436331
went like this for me, can't believe i used to shill for (((big government)))

>>128438554
if you left /pol/ then get out

>>128437859
>not McDonald's(R) GasTM ChamberTM

>>128438412
I saw a video with Styx666, where he talked about fascism, natsoc and communism. The point he made is that fascism can take many shaped, that Francos Fascism where distinct from Hitlers or mussolinies; that there are no common ideology behind Fascism, that it was time specific and cultural/geographic specific.
Whereas communism was immortal, it was the same basic principle of absolut wealth distribution and an economical equal society.

Natsoc was tailored to Germany in that specific time periode. It would make no sense to copy paste it into present day.

>>128436331
>ever being left-libertarian
top kek

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>>128436331
This is more accurate description. If you are left economically, you don't understand economics.
This overall is why I would say there is a NatSoc / Libertarian Right alliance, both understand reality to the fullest degree, just disagree on the whether the state should or even needs to solve issues and whether violence is involved.

>>128436331
I started out as a liberal, took the civic nationalist pill, tried to take the ethnonationalist pill, but I spit it out. I couldn't do it. Not sure if that makes me a cuck, but it all felt so tiring and worthless.
Still see myself as a western civic nationalist, though. Fuck Islam.

>>128440101
This. You were never really one of us.

>>128440393
The thing I tend to notice with most white nationalists I see here is their extremism. Like, people who actually want the day of the rope and a non-white killing spree. I would probably be on board with ethnonationalism if its followers weren't so insane.

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>>128440585
this feels so much, it hurts. This is the true evolution of /pol/tards. I feel like you are me on that chart. Especially the
>w-what is h-happening

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>>128436331
> ex polacks
> this here
> ...yet some how "not here anymore"

....try again later, you're drunk or high or something. Go to bed.

>>128436331
I've been browsing for years and never once been drawn in by their delusional bullshit. I realize the ego working to save itself from shame and projecting onto others when I see it.

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>>128440393
>This overall is why I would say there is a NatSoc / Libertarian Right alliance,
yeah i was thinking about this the other day. i don't love wehraboo larpers, but i share some ideas with them, even not strictly-economic ones. on the other hand, even if i according to the compass i align moreon the libertarian scale with them, i would love to see antifa and the green square wiped off the face of the earth. don't even get me started on the red square.

>>128440749
/pol/ has nonstop blackpills, can you blame people for wanting a genocide here or there with all the shit we see on a daily basis?
The manchester attack alone probably made hundreds of anons age a year just from rage from the cucking.

>>128440961
He's doing that
>the only reason you believe in this is because [bad things]
bullshit.

>>128438257
>funny how things change sometimes
that just means you're a weak-willed bitch and easily swayed by others. like, really.

>>128441341
I understand that. It's depression and frustration. But at the same time if all of your practitioners are belligerent reactionaries your movement is basically doomed to be on the fringe forever. It's sad really.

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>>128436331
I was never on /pol/'s side.

>>128442092
oy vey, getting into nazi territory there hans

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get on my level

>>128442092
No, that is /pol/ territory traditionally. You're just retarded.

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>>128440749
It boils down to neccessity of violence. an ethnostate can be achieved through voluntary means by evicting non-white tenants, not hiring them, or choosing not to associate with them. This happens naturally sometimes and so too do multicultural societies where people are choosing to interact with each other voluntarily and there is an exchange of culture and language to meld the two or more groups together.
However when you bring in alien groups of people against the wishes of the populace and subsidize that ethnicity's existence with tax dollars, inevitably violent removal or extermination becomes necessary. When a state does something like this you then need a state based solution (day of the rope, gas chambers, mass executions) to solve the original problem. If you don't want race wars or days of the rope leave people be and don't force immigration on people. These people aren't insane really, they are simply hard men in a desperate time. many are realizing that they will be minorities in the own homelands and want to avoid this before it's too late but any time you try to introduce nationalism to the normies or suggest controlled immigration or eviction the normies freak out. They understand what needs to be done, sad as it it may be.
And hell I'm an AnCap, I don't want any of this to happen but its way too late at this point.

>>128440585
>>128436331

I wonder who's behind these posts...

>>128442274
You know that's illegal, Bruce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4

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You are all like little babbies

>>128437859

>ancap

You are more delusional and cucked than communists.

>>128438554
How will you vote in the elections this fall?

>>128442446
I think Richard Spencer talked about paying people to leave? I don't know the solution. But if the creation of your state forces you to kill innocent people then I don't see how it's justified.
Also, from what I see, most of these people seem to look forward to the killing sprees. They're literally the stereotype that the media likes to strawman.

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>>128436331
>>128438554
>wants ex-/pol/acks to discuss "how we left /pol/"
>does this by starting a new topic on /pol/

>>128442301
Hey, that's me! Now if you like hans, you need to go a little more back to the blue
>physically removes bloodshits at 3000ft
>claims to follow the NAP and voluntaryism

>>128440968
Fucking thank you.

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>>128436331

>>128442731
Ad hom and name calling isnt an argument. Try again or kys

>>128442879
>asks libertarians how to vote
You don't. en masse.

>>128440968
The more successful I've gotten, the more right-wing I've gotten. Try again

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>>128442976
The solution is yellow and black. Stop giving legitimacy to statism and the non existent social contract and you will solve all problems about them realizing they are the problem

>>128442879
I honestly don't know yet. None of our parties satisfy me. How about you?

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>>128442976
Strawmen or not, if there weren't anti discrimination laws, hate speech laws and immigration quotas literally making it so they cannot dissociate with whom they want nothing to do with, they have to do this. Ask yourself why the Sikh religion was founded and why Buddhists in Sri Lanka are killing muslims? The introduction of unwanted people and the problems they brought turned formerly peaceful people (especially Buddhists) into ethnic cleansers.
Stereotype or not their reaction is necessary, justified and normal.

>>128443708
There is no left and right. Only autocracy vs liberty and the group vs the individual

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Literally me, boys

>>128443517

The only argument against retarded ancaps is a bullet to the head and soldering iron in your zhopa.

>>128443200
*Left the /pol/ mentality.

>>128436331
/pol/ is, at most, a minarchist board. if you go off in fash land you're the loser, not us. faggot.

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Enjoy

>>128443988
I'm in the same boat, sadly.
I know people who are trying to pill me on Demokratene though.

>>128440968
Gud boi with all his privileges checked.

>>128444000
Their reaction is based on weakness and ignorance on how to deal with others. Do you know each one of those Buddhists killing those muslims? Can you say for sure with intimate knowledge about them that were always peaceful? Or perhaps they were tricked or manipulated into fighting them? How do you know it's not all unprovoked assault and that some of it is self defense from a physical attack or engagement made by muslims in the first place? Context and the individual matters. When you realize that and spit on Hans's short-sightedness of such, you will then see the way

>>128436331
>it's a "you can un-take the red pill" episode

>>128444000
>>128442976
Moreover, why wouldn't they look forward to the killing? Imagine reading about the crime statistics, daily terrorist attacks, mass rapes, lowered birthrates of your own people, high birthrates of the aliens, seeing your own country resemble a foriegn nation rather than your own homeland, all the while you see no reaction, nothing like concentration camps, anyone saying "maybe they should leave" is quickly silenced. At that point you want revenge, you want it to stop. you see the car speeding toward the cliff but you're in the back seat and the driver isn't changing course. Do you truly blame the man in the back seat fantasizing about grabbing the wheel and slamming it to the right, crashing the car but saving most of the occupants?

>>128444248
Again, not an argument. Run along now child, I think heard your mother calling for your evening tit sucking

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:^)

>>128445049
So you like smoking weed and started to want others to try it, but you gave up cause you were too busy getting high

Don't do drugs kids

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>>128444000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN7AYg48qnQ

I think this is the video where it hit me. The message of this video is basically what I've been talking about; non-extremist white nationalism. But if you look at the comments you'll see that it sparked an extremely negative reaction from /pol/.

I just don't know anymore. No matter what happens innocent people are going to die. I don't even think WN will catch on, but the alternative looks far worse than I could ever imagine. I think I skipped the redpill and went right to the blackpill.

>>128445049

the fags path

>>128445257
Guess i should mention that i am now 20

>>128445257
stupid serb
no one cares what you think

>>128437511
>he thinks that gibsme-ism is a viable economic structure.

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>>128445257
Perfect examples of prolonged exposure to anal group sex

>>128444696
No. Simply no. It isn't weakness and ignorance to get rid of the people causing the problems in your society. And fucking yes they were peaceful they're fucking Buddhists their entire religion is literally founded on being peaceful. Buddhism is the only literal religion of peace. And these 'unprovoked reactions" are not the best thing but is no reaction preferable? Again these people are reacting to the introduction of a foreign, alien and violent group of people moving into their homeland. HHH is not short sighted, you've taken a blue pill.

>>128444916
I guess that includes killing the kids, too. We could get into a whole entire discussion about morality, but that just sounds like evil to me.

>>128445257
how tho

>>128445531
>He thinks that capitalism isn't made by and for the Jews and literally the only reason why they run the world
>Oh wait he's an American, of course he doesn't think that, America has done nothing but help the Jews and international Jewery for as long as it existed, especially through forcing globalist capitalism on everyone as well as theri degenerate culture

And people wonder why i despise and want to nuke America.

>>128445627
>says the ancap the most degenerate autistic meme ideology to ever exist
Ay fuck laws and shit yo

>>128445803
>Capitalism invented by jews

Capitalism was invented by fucking cave men. Trading and working for each other is not some jewish scheme you idiot.

>>128445803
>>He thinks that capitalism isn't made by and for the Jews and literally the only reason why they run the world
jews have had a hand in the development of literally every single school of economic thought

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>>128436331
Nice try Karsten

how do you know where you are on the chart? I know my views, I dont know if theyre considered left or right, and everywhere i go people have different opinions of what is centrist and extreme and left/right. i think im a little authoritarian, and possibly moderately conservative, but many political tests place me centrist

>>128446243
Not National Socialism, or any form of nationalistic collectivism like National Boslhevism or something like that.
>>128446099
My point still stands though, you cannot be "anti-Jew" but also be "pro-capitalism" because if you support capitalism you automatically support the international Jewery and help them run the world through debt, large loans (both national and personal), large banks and coorporations. Rejecting capitalism is the first step in destroying the international Jew. It's not socialism that has brought rapefugees and the degenerate culture of the West, that was all capitalism.

>>128446099
what

capitalism can't exist unless money is the sole source of nobility, which first requires feudalism.

You're confusing the trade of goods and services with political and social power being vested in those who privately control the economy.

Feudal and tribal societies are not capitalist.

>>128446711
Huh, a smart, legitimately redpilled american, well i'll be damned

Why is it always that libertarian left where we start? Is the gibs me dat that powerful, or its the pretending that everything is good and peaceful that appealing?

>>128446536
how is national socialism economically different from every other strain of socialism? besides the fact that it's only applied to one people, the economic portion of it is socialistic, hence influenced by jews.

>>128445715
It goes back to necessity of violence. If, for example, coyotes were killing your herd of cattle so you one day go out with your rifle and start taking them down to stop the loss of your cows. In the process you kill a mother with a cluster of 6 young pups. You have three choices with three different outcomes.
1: You let them go, leave them be because you can't stomach the idea of killing them. They are taken in by the back, grow up to become adult coyetes and kill another one of your cows.

2: You take them in and try to make them kind of like half assed shepard dogs. three run away and return to the pack and go feral, two of them become semi-loyal to you but utterly useless as shepherds, IE they do not confront the coyotes. The last one actually is a decent shepherd but gets killed by a pack of them one day sadly.

3: You shoot all six. None become adults and kill your cows, but you live with a very hard decision.

Remember the old saying, hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. Sometimes the hard thing to do when times are bad is the necessary thing. Mind you I'd like to avoid the whole scenario where this becomes an even remote possibility but its too late at this point.

>>128446867
True but the Jews don't benefit from it, and that's my endgoal basically. Also i should mention that i am actually NOT a NatSoc nor do i like Hitler, i don't actually believe all Jews should be exterminated, most jews, in fact, are just decent hardworking regular humans, it's the big international Jew that i despise and Hitler failed to do shit about that.

>>128446856
"Why can't everyone just be nice?"

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>>128445639
Oop, rustled multikulti stormfag detected.

Heres what voluntaryism and the NAP do in a conflict
>alien force arrives
> others get killed because they wanted to live in a group instead of as individuals minding their own fucking business and involve themselves in a bandwagon weakfag mentality
> be an individual
> notgettinginvolvedinotherpeople'saffairs.jpg
>no one retaliates against me with large scale feelings of retribution for me being Switzerland
>one or two small attacks here and there by basic bandits. Kill em accordingly
>a slightly larger force arrives, terrorizing other individuals
>mutually agree to defend your property or pay some mercs to help you
>still neutral, still whitelisted
>stay low. Stay cool. Stay alive
Hans is a hack without simple understanding of basic survival. Probably never read darwin either. Jsuk, theres a reason why some species have survived multiple mass extinction events.

>inb4 waco
Those pedos made waves and big ones too. If you actually knew a damn thing about them, you'd see that they did anything but mind their own fucking business.

>>128445803
No, you want to bomb America because your mother won't reciprocate your oedipal feelings. Gtfo /slav/e, the masters are talking

>>128446309
If only he had used the Swedish no rape braclet

>>128445639
To be fair, only certain strains of Buddhism.

Also Jainism is a religion of peace too.

Not everyone is a projecting fucktard like you, some people are jist capable of basic pattern recognition. Niggers are shit whether or not you are also shit.

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>>128436331

>>128445849
Fuck the state that exerts its will on me uninvited and without reason by "justification" of the social contract*

There, fixed it for ya. Whats the anal reaming count on the golden dawn, boipucci? Theyve got cucked and fucked so many times, ive lost count

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>>128445531
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>>128447568
Capitalism =/= Trade
Remember that modern-day capitalism is not the same as what we had in the 19th century and prior.

>>128447873
Saved senpai

>>128446711
>>128446844

This is only if you accept Carl Marx's definition of capitalism.

I'm talking about owning property and trading goods and services.

>>128447270
>multikulti stormfag
What in the fuck are you talking about

>Hans is a hack
HHH advocates for the exclusion of individuals from communities and neighborhoods by voluntary means, and outlined the failures of democracy inherant to itself. Calling HHH a hack is basically admitting you're a retard. And whats to say communities of voluntary cohabitation wouldn't mobilize and organize to attack a foreign threat? Hell that's exactly how many towns and colonies defended themselves, and often effectively. You've basically outlined exactly that in your example.
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>>128447972
You might as well move to the Gaza Strip or to Syria if you wanna live the true AnCap™ experience to be honest. Seriously how do you unironically believe a society without a government can be anything but an african tier shithole? There's too many bad people in this world for such a naive concept to succeed, can't you see that?

>>128448679
People can refuse to do business or let evil people live in their communities though

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>>128436331
Since I come to /pol/ some years ago, I've went on a quest to improve myself. I finished my bacherlor's, I will finish my master's in a year, I've gotten a job and I've learned 2 new languages. I wish Finland were a 100 % white country once again, and I want all Africans to be expelled. I've never learned to hate the Jews, though. Politically I've probably drifted a bit towards the center, but I'm still mildly authoritarian rightist.

/pol/ has changed me for the better, I think. I still am very lonely and feel like an outcast, but at least I'm a productive member of the society now. I've pretty much abandoned the hope of ever having a family, since I am extremely jealous and can't stand the idea that my wife has slept with other people, and I am thoroughly disgusted by even a tanned skin.

I visit /pol/ for the memes and happenings. Hope you liked my blog post.

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>>128448284
No one is asserting that capitalism = trade

Capitalism is an economic system and an ideology based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system, and competitive markets. In a capitalist market economy, decision-making and investment are determined by the owners of the factors of production in financial and capital markets, and prices and the distribution of goods are mainly determined by competition in the market

Trade, or commerce, involves the transfer of goods or services from one person or entity to another, often in exchange for money. A network that allows trade is called a market.

Capitalism relies on markets to allow for a non violent, voluntaryistic peaceful mean for owners to expand their capital, but trade could also include mutualists who dont wish to expand capital and follow the labor theory of value. Bloodshit commies arent evolved enough to understand their transcendent mutualist cousins tho, mostly bc bolshits are subhuman

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>>128448850
Ooooo, straight from the aftican isp's mouth

>>128449108
I use to be jealous too. For what it's worth it is a conquerable emotion.

I don't mind a gf now hooking up with another dude (other than the fact that she lied to me). Hard as it may be, try to breathe and let it be if you feel jealous. Your brain does eventually adjust and just stops doing it.

Also, good on you for taking the strong growing man's path anon, I salute you.

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>>128449155
Okay, but you still want a state to corral all you niggers by the means of laws. Without a powerful state that purge bad people, you'll have subversive people that come in and exploit the markets, take them over, and flood the country with foreigners, liberals, and other unsavory elements.

No nation can survive without a state.

>>128449591
>the state maintains security

>>128449425
I live right next door to countries that tried to "spread the wealth through force." And they went in to much deeper shit than this one.

>>128438554
Seems like you are still here m8

>>128449425
>implying you're gonna know who's good or bad without police investigating crimes
>inb4 private police
They're gonna be basically mafia

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>>128449741
Yes, a private security force would answer only to me whereas a public security force would answer to the directly to the state and indirectly to the nation.

A private security force would be terrible if an irrational person, of which there are many, hired them and told them to do bad things. You could say that not everyone would need to hire these security mercs and a few people purchasing them would be enough for the community, but then you're approaching textbook Fedualism

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>>128449108

when I started I was a "nice guy" too. I was peaceful and always positive towards others, even towards my enemies. I believed that violence doesn't solve anything.
I didn't understood why then people talk shit behind my back, but not my into my face, or why is that if I try to dodge conflicts as much as possible why others create them for me, even my """"friends"""" backstabbed me, and why is my life so shit it I place others before me. I can't even count how many times I had insomnia and people in the school tought I do drugs because I looked so terrible.
After school I still was a peacemonger, went to a lot of jobs, which I quit after afew months, because I couldn't handle the pressure, I hated the very moment I entered the door where I worked. I asked questions why are these people so fucking evil towards me, why do they threat me like a complete idiot?

I started developing hatred and wonder why does all this shit happen to me. I was so weak willed and controllable that looking back I find myself disgusting, yet I'm glad I experienced these things, because I would never learn asking questions and seeking the truth.

Taking the redpill was the hardest yet my most precious experience in my life. Also losing suicidal toughts due to being fueled by hatred then the seeking better life feels good, even if I have no place in society.

>>128448669
>"voluntary means"
>helicopters
>voluntarily allowing innocents to attempt to evolve to defy gravity while rushing at 9.8m/s^2 towards the earth
>"iz ok" t. Hoppeans

The NAP and voluntaryism already imply an exclusion to people's nonviolent transgressions by the will of individuals. Hoppe, while enlightening for the elaboration of some things, is not needed overall

>repeating everything I said without contradiction and aggressively agreeing with me
Why are you taking my belt off, senpai? WHY ARE UNZIPPING MY PANTS, SENPAI??!!?

>>128436331
Are you me?

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It sucks to leave the libertarian right.
I no longer believe people are smart enough to make many of their own decisions.
The real crux is we live in democracies and eventually the libertarian will get outnumbered and bent over. Voting against the libertarian is an act of force. The libertarian can never win that game.

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The first time I took the political compass test was when I was around 19. I'm 32 now.

Pic is approximately my positions on the compass over time. The last time I took the test was last year, but I doubt it's changed much.

>>128450425
High agreeableness + resentment?

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a..ammm I redpilled yet guys?

It seems alot of people bounce from Conservative Libertarians, to Authoritarian Liberals.

What causes this? How does someone go from governless traditionalism and emphasizing ownership and privacy, to preferring a system that forces and mandates thoughts and 'the staus quo' on its people, and condemning ownership through either abolishing legal ownership completely or taxing exuberantly.

Not baiting. It does seem to be a common thing in this thread right now.

>>128436331
Honestly I mellowed out ever since I got on here. Made me shy away from embracing government compulsion, finally accept that democracy can be alright and the free market is pretty damn good. Eugenics is still serious business though, and soon 2 billion Africans sucking up resources while offering effectively no human capital whatsoever is just a catastrophe. We could do with an artificial extinction event.

>>128450425
Anon, please share with me how you fixed this shit.

I am agreeable as fuck and people do take advantage all the time.

>>128450978
Nah, you need to drift north 2-4 more notches.

>>128451288
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I actually am a good 4 or 5 points north and that this test doesn't adequately address that

>>128444934
Argument for what you stupid nigger, he didn't even make a point in the first place

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>tfw my time here has actually pushed me to the left

hmm.

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I no longer take sides, for none is intrinsically superior. Nihilism took over me and I started taking pleasure in merely observing history unfold.

>>128451888
trips or not m8, you need to do some explaining

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>>128451107
Few want to abolish property.
The test asks questions in manner where controlling for other people's morals and doing what's best for a people to shoot up that way.
Libertarianism gets rejected when one sees and understands what degeneracy does to society.

>>128436331
This is what I call a good psyop operative.
sage

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>>128450454
Well think of it this way. You have a group of communists/islamists/feminists in your society.
The communists want to steal everything you have, turn the poor and stupid into a barbaric militia and if you don't agree with them they want you dead or placed in a gulag.
The islamists want to create a theocracy in your country, weaponize your immigration policy and welfare state to genocide your people and take over your country.
The feminists want to use the inherent gynocentricity of society to give women unnecessary and destructive advantages over men while causing declining birthrates leading to the generational death of your civilization.

Considering all these, tossing these people out of helicopters is a form of self defense. Not removing them will result in the death of your society. Trying to say physically removing these people is wrong is like saying removing wood ticks off the body and burning them is immoral because they are living things.

>>128442301
I had the same except I started with natsoc and moved to commie, then lib commie and now right lib

>>128445049
so basically you went full retard after 16?

>>128451909
This, politics are useless. Embrace nihilism.

>>128451957
the hard right authoritarian push and collective betrayal of individualist ideals that /pol/ used to be so committed to before the election has lead me to believe that the right wing is full of amoral lizard brained people who wouldn't know empathy if it took a shit on their shoe.

>>128450309
>state police arent a mafia that will arrest you if you dont pay their wages with taxes because they are restricted to one region and dont have to andwer to the free market
>private police are bad guys because they are at the whim of their clients and customers
t. Economically illiterate Cuck know nothing

>>128436566
fpbp

>>128450355
>hires a private security force
>tells them to do shit things
>security force gets estranged by all their other clients and the market
> the client and now out of business security force become a state
>mutualistic persons and entities turn on state embargoing them and cutting off their means to grow by not dealing with them in the market
>state starves and eats itself

You were saying?

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>>128436331

>>128451274
>I am agreeable as fuck and people do take advantage all the time.
I was like you once but i got over it. I also have a friend who still struggles with this problem.

When normies try to make you do stupid shit for them they know what they are doing and feel bad for it so they try to act all friendly and shit and they think you don't see what they're doing. If they succeed once they think they can do it always.

The trick is to make it crystal clear that you won't do stupid shit for them. When they ask you to do something just laugh it of and say no. Then the normies will recognize you as someone who is hard to play so they move on to beg someone else to do their shit for them. Easy trick.

When you work enough with normies it will be easy to read and manipulate them as you wish.

>>128450490
The libertarian right is focused on the individual. Too many libertarians care about a nation adopting the values at large, impersonal and unincentivizing to the individual when we are not speaking to the individuals themselves and letting them spread our message to other individuals with their own personal belief and confidence in themselves alone. This is how to win hearts and minds and how democracy fueled by the weak loses because the sheep within a democratic group are individually weak fools vs a mutualistic truce or coop libertarians would have with each other if each and every single one of them boasts the confidence of a whole nation and would therefore be coalition

Libertarians need to be wiped off the face of the Earth. Radical white supremacist fascism is the only way.

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>>128450978
Redpilled is overrated, you need to get as far south and east as you possibly can

>>128454253
Keep larping stormfag

>>128453005
yes when the nation state fails and goes into anarchy this always happens.
oh wait it doesn't, it doesn't even get that far.
The state or proto-state starves other people, it does not starve. People make the calculation of picking up a weapon to fight the state, if their chances of surviving(or offspring surviving) are low a person will rarely fight.
The parties most likely to use force will become the state.

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>>128453158
Embraced

>>128451274
>>128450425
Being nice isn't the same thing as being a bitch or a pushover. You need a strong sense of self and what you are and are not willing to do for someone else in order to be of value to anyone else. So long as you're respectful and honest when turning down someone's request they'll respect you as a person and appreciate the times you are able to help others all the more.

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>>128450766
its not even that I want to take revenge on them or some shit.
Its more like I'm glad they taught me about life. That its unfair as shit, and instead of wondering why is it unfair I do something against it.

>>128451274
>how do I fixed this shit
Learn to hate others, not everyone is an angel living on earth. This is the truth. There are people rotten to the core, who will do EVERYTHING to make you miserable.
For those who take advantage of you show your middle finger, it will make you feel good. Don't be a cucklet.
Don't be a weak willed fag, because that'll make you a target practice. The jews do this all the time with white people, because a lot of us are peacemongers, and can't accept the truth.
The truth is painful for most people don't want painful things, its easier to accept a nonexisting guilt.

Just remember always: ask questions, use your fucking head. Not everyone in this planet is a good person, and shit people deserve to rot in hell.
Actions have consequences. If someone takes advantage of you call him/her out on it, don't feel bad about it.
Truth is bitter for these people, and believe me, it feels fucking good to be right. Really fucking good, but don't be like me either. I'm now a warmongering asshat who takes pleasure from other's misfortune.

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>>128454253
Radical White supremecists may be willing to wipe out entire groups, but you're talking about wiping out a group of people whom fundamentally believe in self defense, stockpile firearms and ammunition and literally are already paranoid of the government. As much as I am willing to agree with fascists on fundamental truths about reality and physical removal of communists but the minute you tread on us expect a hell storm friendo. I do not wish to fight you or people like you, but if I have to I will die for my freedom and take as many of you with me.
Just take a look at /k/, an entire board of pretty much libertarians. You will lose.

>>128445257
Fucking slavs.
See that's why you're not my equal.
You're equal amongst slaves and niggers.
That's why you ask for equality. Because you can't thrive for more and youd rather slow down everything for your sorry ass.

>>128452476
Not that it isn't, but most of their extreme and aggressive behaviours springs from hate, their passionate emotions coming from a true goodwill. It's unfortunate that these emotions tend to think for them

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>>128454676
Kek
>state is supreme ideology
>be china
>lelelelelel "I am so big and powerful l
>everyone everywhere stops dealing with china and treats them like a pariah
>manicattack.jpg
>north korea on suicide watch as with no aid they make the 90s famine crisis look like a hunger strike
>"so it isnt just us" t. Cuba

Yeah, k, the ostracized state is the one that starves, sure

>>128452494
>call Private Police TM
>they arrive
>ok give us the $1000 now
>(You) - B-but you said it's $50 per visit
>yeah we changed our mind when we saw your ugly mug familia
>(You) - I-I'm not paying
>ok take him to jail boys
>(You) - B-but I didn't do nuffin
>nobody's going to believe you
>(You) - O-ok I guess I'll pay up *cucks out*
>nice, don't tell anyone about this or tyrone is gonna have a good time with you, bye fag
>(You) - Y-you too

>>128455148
I was kind of larping, But I'm not a libertarian.

Individualism (a key feature of libertarianism) is selfish. When people work together as a collective, the potential is limitless.

>>128436331
in other words, you finally made enough money to not live around sandniggers, and now you've relapsed to the delusion that they're harmless. well done.

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>>128436331
Just retook the test to see how I sit on the graph... scarily accurate.

>>128455148
This
>pfft what are you gonna do with an ar15?
Its not what I alone am gonna do. It's what each of us mutualistically together are gonna do with our ar15s combined not to mention the mutinous military personal that won't follow orders turning on their fellow man and seizing military equipment and bases in the event of a civil war

>>128456079
I like that. People working together as a collective also constraints a true democracy. How

>>128456079
When people V O L U N T A R I L Y work together for mutual interests vs being C O E R C E D and F O R C E D to work in the gulags against their will, then mutualism es bueno. There is no collective

>>128436331
I started at "Free market will fix it" (teenage years)
Now I have moved most of the way to "at last I truly see" (mid 20's)

>>128456157
A lot of people seem to turn out like this. They've been losers all their lives, so when things finally start going right for them they shit all over what they used to believe in order to fit in with the their new environment. This shows both a lack of conviction/will and a desire to be accepted by their peers. In other words, weakness.

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>>128456849
Wat

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>>128437859
Pinochet was a fascist. Your idol would have tossed you from the helicopter.

>>128457178
I was referring to the OP picture

>>128436331
The picture is literally me, except I skipped the purple phase because I wasn't a fucking moron.

Your text is wrong because you have the mentality of a candy-ass faggot. Even on the assumption that (((ruling elites))) are not attempting to immortalize their power by creating an autistic and loyal working class, you have failed by using that as an excuse to degenerate instead of using as an excuse to better yourself and reclaim independence from society in order to spite them. You were never off the blue pill.

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>>128457090
This.
Moderates and centrists will burn when the collectivists turn on their virtue signaling, pandering asses while individualist libertarians are laughing innawoods

>>128447270
Cute heres what really happens
>alien force arrives
>nation of mercenary citizens realize they can come out on top by joining the invading army
>retarded individualists get fucked by the people who don't think organization is a crime against humanity
>antards' property is distributed among the victors

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my journey since discovering /pol/ about 6 years ago to right now.

>>128456721
Libertarianism revolves around the self. When I say "collective" I mean society and fellow man, two things libertarianism is fundamentally opposed to. There are situations in which personal freedom can and should be sacrificed for the greater good.

>>128457205
Top kek. Darwin is master and this made me lel af

>>128456079
If people are forced to work as a collective, there will eventually be dissenters. Then you'll either have to kill them or throw them in the gulag to prevent the system from falling apart.
No bueno.

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>>128440948
Fuck Leftists.

Never forget.

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>>128438554

>>128437511
That's the evolution of a plebbitor.

>>128457205
>safety regulations are in themselves what makes thing safe

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>>128457612
Here we go again with this "lets be italy, goys" meme. Only insecure, weakfags get stockholm syndrome. No alpha mercs in their right minds are gonna think "hurr durr they wanna kill us so lets see if we can be bros even tho we have mothing to really offer them in leverage for our lives" k, good luck dying with that tactic. Negan will not be pleased

Kek all these soft faggots ITT i was a national socialist before /pol/ and stayed on /pol/ because there was finally aplace on the net where i could let my inner nazi out and not get banned.
I havent drifted to the left or to ther right i am constant,instead i use this place to learn more about the enemy and the problems the world has today.
That is all faggots.

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>>128452380
Most brains haven't fully developed until they've reached their 20s.

So basically what happened is that he grew up

>>128457838
Uh, top right is psychopathic monarchism desu

>>128438554
Nobody cares faggot. You haven't "left" pol if youre still posting here. Fuck off back to r/bbcsuckers

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>>128458541
Have fun buying a safe product without them.
>>128458556
>Only insecure, weakfags get stockholm syndrome
rich coming from the man whose ideology is "please dont violate my NAP"
>mothing to really offer them in leverage for our lives
Because guides have never been required in all of human history.

>>128438554
This is like one of those things where you go down a road and no matter what path you take you always end up exactly back where you started lmao

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I unironically made that evolution (I never was in the green part tho, I started in the purple). It took me 1 year on /pol/ to move into the blue and another year to move towards the "at last I truly see" part. Soon after I started moving up and up towards NatSoc. I've been in the upper centre for 2 years now.
Reading (especially philosophy and history) is the biggest reason why I evolved the way I did.

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me after one molyneux video

>>128436331
fuck off shareblue,this place has motivated me like nothing else

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First time doing this.

>>128436331
(((You)))

>>128459446
schopenhauer was anti-nat and anti-soc you retarded cuck

>>128460067
movement into the blue square from purple is justified as self defence

>>128438554

People copy the ideas they're exposed to after a while, all it's down to is people spend literally all day on here reading the same ideas over and over again.

That's why the hivemind lurches about based on whatever the funny meme of the moment is, e.g. everyone loved Trump until it's not the meme of the moment since he actually won and then the meme is he's a sellout to the globalists, everyone's totally a born again Christian until the meme is christcucks follow a jew religion, ect ect. No real ideology, just being exposed to the same phrases and images every day.

If I paid anyone from here to browse tumblr for three months they'd end up being a raving SJW from reading all their autism all day every day instead.

>>128457555
>laughing innawoods

someone hasn't heard of the tragedy of the commons

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>>128460728
>Schopenhauer is the only philosopher that ever existed
I did like what Schopie wrote about women

Also Schopenhauer was anti-democracy and alligned himself more with people like Hobbes who preached a strong state ruled by a monarch. Didn't he also write the famous line: "I'd rather be ruled by a lion that a rat" ? (not sure tho).
Schopenhauer also claimed that the white race is the only civilized race and he is also quite anti-semitical.

>>128461007
Absolutely.

After dealing with the rising taxes, fees, dues and penalties for not going along with social programs in my city, after loosing clients for not going along with the "progressive" agendas and for dealing with the 1st wave of millenials post grad, I am absolutely becoming more selfish and willing to fight for what I have done by and for myself, my business survival and for those that the left take advantage of.

>>128436331
>>128440968
cringe

I used to be full on lefty back in 2008 (who wasn't) during the Bush years. Pretty much republicans looked like dumb and evil out of touch psychos.

Around 2010-2012 I started browsing 4--c h 0 n /NEW/, /int/ and krautchan /int/ when they were both really racist/white nationalist and I realized the small signs that european cultural supremacy was crumbling. It wasn't THAT bad then so I was actually more libertarian. Ron Paul days.

Come 2014 I mainly browsed /pol/ and after recent events I concluded national socialism is the only thing that makes sense for european survival.

>>128449591
>Without a powerful state that purge bad people, you'll have subversive people
This has nothing to do with how powerfull the state is, but on how strong the people's culture and identity are.
You can be minarchist and classical liberalist without being degenerate as longas You go to Church every sunday, teach your daughters Not to be whores etc.

>>128451909
How did you get the nihilist pill ?

>>128440968
>Never been drawn in
>Browsing for years

>>128451909
>>128452459
Vomit the black pill brothers.
It's a deadly poison.

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/pol/ caused me to go further left. At last I've seen right wing idiocy.

>>128438554
No one gives a shit about your bait ahmed. I'm fit, attractive, and have too mamy friends and logically nonwhites make things worse. Stop whining just because you got cucked

>>128467311
Or maybe you've become the more idiotic one over time? Just a thought.

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>>128436331
>Hurrrr national socialism durrr social nationalism be da REAL troof mah fammalammadingdongaschlingschlong

>>128467786
nah, it's you nazi scum

>>128441669
Or he read some of the decent stuff posted here, in the days when German anons were not all turks and cucks.

>>128436331

>I still visit /pol/ from time to time out of a morbid curiosity and I still enjoy some of the humour here.


This is what I was going to say when I read your question

Myself before /pol/
Commie, long hair, chubby
Now:
Short fashy hair, fit, stylish.
Fascism has motivated me to better myself. 10/10 would not go back.

>>128437859
natsoc is the final redpill

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>>128467864
Also

>>128450425
This is exactly like me , I used to be a dickhead to everyone , and everyone seemed to like me , then when I got into a few fights at school and got some anxiety started to always be nice to people , always thought everyone was talking shit behind my back

Redpill was good for me because it made me see right through people's bullshit , I'm now a narcissistic cunt but starting to become normal again

>>128466448
Trying to understand every side of the discussion and giving everyone the benefit of attention. Reading books, studying other fields, meditating.

Like Socrates in Plato's work, I concluded that "I know that I know nothing".

For me, Politics is now like observing birds in a forest or watching a sport with different teams competing for points. Its only value is the entertainment their struggle offers. Like reading history books in real time.

Following a cause-effect logic, I believe the universe is deterministic and 100% physical. Its utimate destiny has therefore already been decided, and humans are overwhelmingly unimportant, just another expression of matter shaping itself following previous causes.

The next step after taking the redpill is the Nihilist blackpill. No one wants to accept Nihilism, no one wants the emptiness that comes with knowing life has no meaning and struggles make no difference. But it is still the truth. The Redpilled and Bluepilled are on the same lower group.

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>>128436331

>>128467058
>t's a deadly poison.
So is breathing

>>128450425
Why the fuck would I want to work if I dont have to? Where's the incentive to keep your collectivist nonsense government together? How is it slavery if I can choose to not work and be a poor piece of shit?

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>>128468920
>paleoconservatism in the middle
>implying people like Barry Goldwater are more centrist than the say the Obama administration

What a jest, it should be much closer the the "14" area

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>>128436566
>not 14.88

I was around where bernie socialists are, borderline commie and such
Now I'm a libertarian capitalist. Very far right economically, bit more liberty than authority

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>>128436331
Moving that radically over the course of a couple years means you never had principals to begin with. Grow a spine and stop being so gullible and you'll figure out who you really are.

>>128436331
>
I might describe myself as such, as I've become far more moderate. I think white nationalism and ethno-nationalism have approximately zero chance of ever happening, as whites are not a team or tribe and will never act as such. I'm also not anti-globalism, as globalism is merely a manifestation of modern communications and transport technology.

At this point, I don't really advocate anything specific. I'm not politically active anyway, so what does it matter what I "support" or "oppose"?

I relate to /pol/ only because I am still a race realist and hereditarian and see inequality as an inevitable aspect of the human condition. We have to recognize at least that at a bare minimum if we wish to have a stable and functional society.

>>128475345
If you were, at any point in your life, a commie-tier socialist, you should be shot right between your eyes.

>>128436331
>started from (4,0)
>steadily progressing farther right and libertarian
>now at (6,-5)
>still realize that society for morons is best kept at (5,10)