Fascist Discussion General Talk about anything related to fascism.

fuck you leaf

>>128432891
Finally, a fucking good thread on /pol/, what are the economics of Fascism?

>>128433232
>what are the economics of Fascism?
war and poverty

>>128433350
Fuck off Polish faggot.

>>128433232
Corporatism

File: leaf_sympathy.jpg (162KB, 1437x908px) Image search: [Google]

162KB, 1437x908px

>>128432891
>
>>128433213
>>128433350

>>128432891
i would rather have a virtuous fascist man than a degenerate liberal. They say liberals respect women, but we all know that's not true. Fascists respect women as women, they don't erase our femininity for an impossible equality. I don't want a man my equal, I want him stronger, smarter, bigger, more powerful than I am, with access to resources, so I can just be a woman and stay home where I belong.

>>128433538
So Fascism allows the ownership of private corporations? But how does it stop Capitalist power broking and wealth hording? Since Fascism allows for some success.

>>128433350
t. ww2 pole

>>128433232
"Economic ideology is gay, use economics to get what you want."
Which for fascism usually means corporatism or a mixed economy.

>>128433773
No woman ever masturbated thinking of an egalitarian liberal.

File: 1495049876685.png (28KB, 205x222px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 205x222px

>>128433232
Which form of Fascism?

File: 3bed81_89fee575e30d48c58c2e088297cf14f1.jpg (118KB, 622x622px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 622x622px

>>128433350
Yes.
Fascists find perverse pseudo-sexual pleasure in contemplating human destruction as an aesthetic ideal of the highest order.

>"For twenty-seven years we Futurists have rebelled against the branding of war as anti-aesthetic ... Accordingly we state:... War is beautiful because it establishes man’s dominion over the subjugated machinery by means of gas masks, terrifying megaphones, flame throwers, and small tanks. War is beautiful because it initiates the dreamt-of metalization of the human body. War is beautiful because it enriches a flowering meadow with the fiery orchids of machine guns. War is beautiful because it combines the gunfire, the cannonades, the cease-fire, the scents, and the stench of putrefaction into a symphony. War is beautiful because it creates new architecture, like that of the big tanks, the geometrical formation flights, the smoke spirals from burning villages, and many others ..."

>>128433804
it won't. its shit. if nazis got what they wanted they would have collapsed quickly because their whole government was built around being warmongering assholes. so they would not have anyone else to go to war with except themselves

>>128432891
Which form of fascism are you and other anons into?

>>128433804
Industry must benefit the nation.
For example a company that manufacturers cures for diseases can get rich. A pornographer cannot. Fascism in a nutshell

>>128434014
Kinda like Israel

File: 00467905042304f407f4251b1536a63b86c0b3d3fce8b161fa92b81e02ba7a8a.png (628KB, 2310x2147px) Image search: [Google]

628KB, 2310x2147px

>>128434089
>I have to ban opposing views and portray my opponents as literal monsters because my ideology can't stand up to scrutiny

File: tumblr_mn3l7hlw3o1qibyrio1_500.jpg (140KB, 500x750px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 500x750px

>>128434089

File: 1495051499694.png (256KB, 458x438px) Image search: [Google]

256KB, 458x438px

>>128434089
I mean why is Fascism not a legitimate political ideology?

>>128434054
I'm liking Fascism already.

File: literalfaggot.png (170KB, 2000x3022px) Image search: [Google]

170KB, 2000x3022px

>>128432891
>Fascism
>Swastika
Leaf education

File: 1490220329797.jpg (139KB, 1149x891px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 1149x891px

>>128434281
Because if you state it in plain terms it's extremely appealing, so it has to be slandered and demonized.
Try selling fascism to a normie. If you don't say the magic word they'll probably be on board.

>>128434421
National socialism is either a kind of or close relative of fascism, my oven-dodging friend.

File: 1495218891440.jpg (79KB, 750x551px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 750x551px

>>128434421
K I K E
I
K
E

GET OUT SCHLOMO

>>128434509
>Because if you state it in plain terms it's extremely appealing, so it has to be slandered and demonized.
Try selling fascism to a normie. If you don't say the magic word they'll probably be on board.


Yeah I agree are you saying it is not a legitimate political ideology?

File: 1fc75b7a73a581db08246818970798d37f765330c88c1ee79b76b6956463239c.jpg (47KB, 453x604px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 453x604px

>>128434622
No, I'm saying it is and the only defense that leftists and cucks have against it is to portray it as inherently illegitimate and evil (while dancing around the actual tenets).

File: jbWkWL7.png (65KB, 350x390px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 350x390px

>>128434522
no u

File: 1494934640947.jpg (37KB, 480x437px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 480x437px

>>128434421
Fuck off you kike.

File: 1495310175282.png (148KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 800x800px

>>128434791
This is a NatSoc board Jew you ain't welcome here.

File: Ahad_Haam.jpg (124KB, 593x673px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 593x673px

>>128435037
Cultural Zion will win.

>>128433833
Yes it's about desire and pleasure, but more than that it's about the spiritual essence and material reality of being a female on this Earth among men. It's the essential female condition that after years of indoctrination and conditioning still hasn't been dissolved in me, that's only gotten stronger as I've reached 30, though they've worked so hard to destroy it and nearly succeeded.

https://youtu.be/zRlfbUr852o

>>128435154
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

enjoy your summary execution and torture in the afterlife demagogic retards ;)

File: Vinceremo.jpg (3MB, 3456x4608px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3456x4608px

Here are some ideas Mussolini stated about Fascism:
>In the Fascist conception of history, man is man only by virtue of the spiritual process to which he contributes as a member of the family, the social group, the nation, and in function of history to which all nations bring their contribution.
>The Fascist State is, however, a unique and original creation. It is not reactionary but revolutionary, for it anticipates the solution of certain universal problems which have been raised elsewhere
>The Fascist State organizes the nation, but it leaves the individual adequate elbow room. It has curtailed useless or harmful liberties while preserving those which are essential. In such matters the individual cannot be the judge, but the State only.
>We are not and do not wish to be motionless mummies, with faces perpetually turned towards the same horizon, nor do we wish to shut ourselves up within the narrow hedges of subversive bigotry, where formulas, like prayers of a professed religion, are muttered mechanically. We are men, living men, who wish to give our contribution, however 'modest, to the creation of history
>In spite of the theories of conservation and renovation, of tradition and progress expounded by the right and the left, we do not cling desperately to the past as to a last board of salvation: yet we do not dash headlong into the seductive mists of the future.
>We control political forces, we control moral forces we control economic forces, therefore we are a full-blown Corporative state. We stand for a new principle in the world, we stand for sheer, categorical, definitive antithesis to the world of democracy, plutocracy, free-masonry, to the world which still abides by the fundamental principles laid down in 1789.
>We have constituted a Corporative and Fascist state, the state of national society, a State which concentrates, controls, harmonizes and tempers the interests of all social classes, which are thereby protected in equal measure.

>>128434362
The state can step in to control any industry also, so if 5 factories make different wrenches and saturate the market, the state can step in to say 1 type of wrench, meet market demands, and make the others produce X and Y goods instead.

>>128434421
Natsoc is to fascism as Conservatism is to democracy.

File: 8e3388c508edbe1f1eb053d2f12388952dbf323b3b3e12e6684cf8d0e5ea4473.jpg (76KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1024x768px

>>128435546
>summary execution
At the hands of who?
Cuckservatives? Shitlibs? Commies that make a fool of themselves trying to hold a rifle?

>>128434054
How does pornography not benefit the nation?

>>128435554
Any fashy books (ideally free epub or mobi) you recommend?

>>128435167
Great video anon. Sieg Heil!

File: BanPorn.png (451KB, 1907x2074px) Image search: [Google]

451KB, 1907x2074px

>>128435796
It doesn't.

File: quote-teddy-roosevelnt.jpg (107KB, 960x478px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 960x478px

>>128435037
I know somebody like this IRL, and I've noticed it applies to many other hyphenated identities. They're Americans when it suits them, then they switch to their primary when it's in their interest. How convenient.

>>128432891
How much longer until we go full Hitler on the sandniggers?

File: 1492362476506.jpg (198KB, 720x1280px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 720x1280px

>>128435996
I'm ready to go now.

File: 1489912095705.jpg (193KB, 615x799px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 615x799px

>>128435037
This is a natSoc thread, you mean.
But so am i, can't we be friends?

File: learnmorsecode.jpg (105KB, 1024x782px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1024x782px

>>128435996
This will be useful.

>>128435065
If NatSoc is for standing up for your fellow people, then why did the german national socialists lock up the people who most dependent on their fellow men like those handicapped in concentration camps?

>>128436085
How in the fuck can you be a NatSoc? Do you hate your own people? Do you wish to get rid of the vermin that is yourself?

>>128435568
I see. I really like Fascism then. So supply and demand alone doesn't control the market in Fascism?

File: 1479891607115.jpg (149KB, 890x876px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 890x876px

>>128435167
You're right, I just like to throw that slogan around. The female nature is different from the male one and fascism is the only extant ideology that understands that. There's no respect for the role a woman fills anywhere else, they just try to make her a man.

>>128436085
We can be friends if you stay in Israel. The interplay between nationalist and globalist Jews is interesting, but you're still Jews.

>>128435796
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0
GOLLY GEE I wonder why porn is bad

>>128436085
If Jews weren't the driving force behind mass immigration and multiculturalism in the US your post would have some credibility.

Supporting colonial minorities is fucking dumb anyway and does nothing to protect our status as majorities in countries that are actually our own

>>128435820
Generally just anything with Mussolini, like his "The Doctrine of Fascism" book. If you can read Italian, or find an English version of "I discorsi della Rivoluzione", then that's a fantastic one from what my Italian mates told me. IIRC it's just Mussolini's speeches all added into one, which gives more info than his own book about Fascism at times.

File: mous.jpg (105KB, 640x515px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 640x515px

>>128432891
natsoc is intellectually underdeveloped. Mussolini and Gentile where the true fascist and rightfull heirs to the roman empire

>>128436176
They would be a drain on society. You would help more of your fellow countrymen than trying to keep someone who cannot even walk straight alive. But for veterans, it is completely different.

>>128436082
Me too

>>128435820
only pdf's sadly for you
VINCERE!

>>128436223
He's lying, pay no mind to him. He'll probably give some bullshit nigger explaination of National Socialism like one that isn't racial.

>>128435820
>>128436588
https://mega.nz/#F!79FG3RZK!BkBVzB5aQgDU3wmv5U90FA
my b

File: 1492362859014.jpg (175KB, 750x950px) Image search: [Google]

175KB, 750x950px

>>128436474
Watch out for ANTIFA my friend.

>>128435854
I watch this and others like it and my heart swells, I cry. This is what we could've had, but instead look at what we've got. I would give up my right to vote, I would gladly trade in birth control and working outside the home, if it meant a strong, virtuous nation where my people are united, upright, and healthy.

>>128436279
Basically. If you wanna know more about the economic theory of fascism, or natsoc, read the works of Gottfried Feder:
The manifesto for the abolition of interest slavery (easy to look up I think, on mobile)
And this article written by a considerably fair and honest liberal:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264649939_Nazi_Technical_Thought_Revisited
Nazi Technical Thought Revisited. Feder is the TRUE genius of national socialism.

>>128436449
Germanics are the rightful heirs to the Roman Empire, they are pure.

Inb4 bumfucked swarthy wops

>>128436739
>>128436344
Cry more

>>128436457
So by that rhetoric, any person who the people in power deem not beneficial to society should be terminated or locked up? Does this not give people tremendous leverage to force people into work in a certain profession against their will with the threat of locking them up if they decline? Seems like a seriously messed up way to run a society.

>>128436223
Hitler hated the international jews, and even tried to create a jewish state in israel.
Yes, i do hate the diaspora, they are the ones pushing for multiculturalism and all that shit.

>>128436761
I believe taxes should never be more than 20%, maybe even 10% anymore I would consider theft rather than contribution to the state and society.

>>128436739
Yes indeed anon. We both feel this sense of what we have lost. But I am not blackpilled, I see so many of our fellow countrymen waking up to these jewish lies. Its been a long time since we have had the greatest empire in the world. Now its time to get it back.

>>128436981
If we ever get out of this mess we're lumping them all on you

>>128436984
I would be more prepared to pay taxes if I lived in an ethnostate, but even then I'm fairly low tax supporting

>>128437096
I fucking hope you're right

File: dabc2bd68aa044150bfdceb37bcd5900ca99522ceeefef172673d1a99708f026.png (53KB, 400x279px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 400x279px

>>128436884
Imagine someone who's involved in an industrial accident and loses his legs.
He's not going to be able to do the same job, but he may still have the ability to do SOMETHING. Why shouldn't the state find him a new position?

>>128436981
I see that you call yourself a NatSoc, but at the end of the day you are a Jew. A Jew is a Jew and a Jew needs the gas.

>>128436296
That's right. For all their talk about "feminism" they've done everything they possibly can to erase femininity and literally replace women with men (and men with women). It's not right, it's not healthy, it's disgusting, degrading, and insane.

>>128436344
I've been called a bigot and "repressed" because I dislike pornography and recognize it for what it is. Thanks for sharing this video, they're putting into words the things I've intuited for a long time but haven't been so able to express.

File: 1481249479600.png (82KB, 1155x880px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 1155x880px

>>128436793
they were LARPing as romans because 2000 years ago they lived in straw huts like niggers

>>128437214
Yeah, I would gladly contribute to an ethnostate.

File: 1494676561157.jpg (82KB, 423x435px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 423x435px

>>128437264
Keep fighting anon. The whole world hates us. But in their hearts they know we are right.

>>128433350
but what does it mean if the free market chooses to be fascist

Who here excited about the future? We will get what we crave. Politicians are no longer in control of the thoughts and fears of the masses.

>>128437525
Indeed my friend. I am sorry London got a hole blown in it. I am no sorry for the commies that voted for it.

>>128436984
Most fascists generate revenue by nationalizing natural resources, rather than paying high taxes

>>128437525
Well more like broken glass and damage to a bridge.

How do we make Israeli Fascism?

>>128437416
Remember the Kingdom of Asturias

>>128437525
I just wish the two party false dichotomy in America would finally draw its last miserable breath and end. And that the National Socialist party in America improves and people start voting for them.

File: 1494179275119.gif (871KB, 245x230px) Image search: [Google]

871KB, 245x230px

>>128437878

>>128437360
Taxation isn't theft if you consent to paying it, but there's no reason to consent to it if all it does is redistribute your earnings to ensure the survival of another race. Especially when that race cannot reciprocate, hates you, attacks you and your values, and intends to replace you and yours with their higher birthrate. When the nation is homogeneous and monocultural, when everyone has the same average IQ and shares the same values, then you aren't subsidizing your own extinction you're securing the existence of your people and a future for your children.

>>128437878
Gas Jews. Or you could kill off the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews leaving only Ashkenazics.

>>128432891
NO DRUMPF, NO KKK, NO FASCIST USA

>>128437277
Why can't his community do that?

Do you think that before high taaxing/spending governments, friends and families of individuals who underwent hardship didn't help them out?

File: 100px-Logo_of_the_Lehi_movement.svg.png (8KB, 100x158px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 100x158px

>>128437878
We tried

File: 1489147246095.jpg (121KB, 662x585px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 662x585px

>>128438127

>>128437878
Gas yourselves

File: 1494613796855.jpg (60KB, 1014x1024px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 1014x1024px

>>128434266

LÉON

F

File: 1493119004701.jpg (188KB, 1358x762px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 1358x762px

>>128438194

File: KACHPPPA.jpg (58KB, 500x647px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 500x647px

>>128437878
>>128438153
Twice.

>>128438348
>>128437878
Judaism is a cult.

>>128438153
>>128438348
also many were involved with italian fascism
https://youtu.be/JgM4auRw2Tc

>>128437792
That sounds like a good idea, we should also base our economic laws on objective philosphical principles, which is the heart of National Socialism and Fascism. The left can't withstand us. We could help fellow Western or White countries economically by forming unions, thereby keeping national boundries but at the same time helping each other out.

>>128438428
By that logic christianity is a cult within a cult.

>>128438120
This is an idea, but also with importation of white seed from the west. But you're talking ethnostate, I want to know how do we get to that point. Gassing of the diaspora should be in order, for example, no?
>>128438153
>>128438348
S-stop
>>128438428
True, but Judaism has nothing to do with Israelism :^)

>>128432891
That's a cool symbol what is that

Ok retards here it is. Facism is the only true way for humans to progress and accomplish what we all strive for. Facism sees the problems comes up with a solution implements it and enforces that solution . like security, social problems, education, governance, . you must have a person or group who unilaterally can force changes without so many hoops to jump through. Thats why democracy is shit just like communism . you need a strong leader and a willing society to make these changes . we all saw how germany worked under hitler . now i dont say kill all jews or non white americans . but we need a way to have all votes counted then simple majority rules then unopposed enforcement of the outcome . me personally i would advocate for an ethnostate of white people because were similar in our views unlike blacks or browns . facism is the way to our dreams coming true provide security and meaningful lifes.

File: goebbels kek.gif (1MB, 396x216px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 396x216px

>>128438808

File: 5d27755220388c420964b0565946f9e04e6cd769b484505979b2ada85fcd187b.jpg (81KB, 528x512px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 528x512px

>>128438142
>his community
What do you think a fascist ethnostate is?

OP fag

>>128435167
>"I could say just as well that I am arming children in future and sending them to war"

>Nazis literally armed thousands of children and sent them to war
>even young girls served in the Volkssturm

>>128438985
learn how to spell it first amerilard

File: TPP-Check-February-4.jpg (64KB, 1024x684px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 1024x684px

>>128438194
>Patriotism

https://youtu.be/9aHQnDTd1y4

File: 1496215271386.jpg (40KB, 315x315px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 315x315px

the problem with the nazis wasn't that they were fascists, it's that they were aryans

only true anglos can realise the potential of fascism

>>128439376
Did Mosley write anything?

File: 1495847964134.jpg (36KB, 360x531px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 360x531px

>>128439475
http://cnqzu.com/library/Solar%20General/100-questions-about-fascism-oswald-mosley.pdf

>>128439105
Fuck you im still american and white enjoying the best way of life on earth . go back in your stupid ass barn or whatever cave you live in bitch.

>>128438525
t. Oswald Mosley.
https://youtu.be/CwZCinIrM0s

>>128439658
>american
>white
pick one sanchez

File: 1494280544054.webm (1MB, 854x480px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 854x480px

>>128439475
https://mega.nz/#F!X1EDTJCb!N96Drl75eutZp5h66WYw1w
>>128439658
Americans are degenerate mongrols

>>128439777
Ok dont believe me bitch . all i want you to do is go kill those goddamn muslims or do you piss yourself just thinking of actually doing something

>>128439715
Glad to see I have a mind like many great thinkers, thank you anon. Revolutionaries like Marx and Emgles had no intent to benefit humanity with Communism, but rather destroy humanity, allowing the Jews to acquire all their wealth as wealthy Jewish oligarchs and then exterminate the Europeans in gulags.

>>128440191
Engles*

>>128439901
First off everyone is a degenerate . we use to have morals and ethics but there non existent today all over the globe . who is a mongrol bitch ? Im white blue eyes families from Scotland . im obviously more pure blooded then you

>>128439081
It's the thought that counts here, but yes. As the German army suffered massive casualties, teenage boys and boys as young as 12 were accepted or drafted into the army. Women and teen girls toward the end of the war were conscripted or volunteered for administrative assistance roles, as their male counterparts had largely been killed or disabled in action. It wasn't supposed to be like that, but it happened because they got desperate as the men were all dead or incapacitated.

>>128439061
A national government and its agencies cannot have an understanding of an individuals qualities and the genuiness of their need the was a local community can

>>128440719
>It's the thought that counts
>women and children sent into losing war to be torn apart by bullets
okay...

File: 2210590756_55cd55c250.jpg (101KB, 345x500px) Image search: [Google]

101KB, 345x500px

>>128439715
Goosebumps
Chills up my spine.
Britain what happened?

>>128439595
>vote by occupation not by geography. >Vote for Technical leaders in parliament not political ones
>represent interests of the industry, not the region
Dang son this is good shit. In countries like Canada it would need a bit of tweaking, because abos need representation and are not an industry, but yeah good shit.

>>128441214
>abos need representation

>>128441214
>abos need representation
They do?

>>128440637
My fellow American, please, lift yourself up out of this petty conflict. Using cuss words and arguing over the internet about your racial purity (though I don't doubt it) really is no way to make us look better than that obese woman on her scooter. We're all mad as hell, but to fix the problems in society we must first be the best possible versions of ourselves. You're better than that.

>>128441096
It isn't right, but neither was the bombing of Dresden or the rape of Berlin. If I was a Nazi woman, and I saw my brothers and my father injured or killed, and I saw my sisters and mother raped in the street, and I was raped in the street myself, and it looked like my Nation was falling to the enemy, I would take up arms and rather kill or die than ever surrender.

>>128441407
>>128441445
Yes they do, or a separation. Whites in Canada have too much respect for aboriginals, a fascist movement here would never succeed without being fair to the native peoples and allowing them to have a better deal and more independence and control over their communities and lives than the current government does, and abos would support such a movement if it truly did offer value to them, because the current government pisses them off to no end.

>>128441645
If you'd been the leader of Nazi Germany at that time, would you have surrendered when you knew defeat was inevitable, to stop as much needless death of your people as possible? Or would you hold out, let a few thousand women and children be slaughtered in the horrors of war you'd said they'd never be exposed to - before killing yourself?

It's not the thought that counts here, it's the actions, and lack there of, from a weak, brutal, incompetent leader.

Do Churchill's thoughts count when you consider the 20,000+ civilians intentionally burned to death in Dresden?

>>128433995
Where's this quote from?

>>128442917
I and my people would never surrender, not even at the last minute. I wouldn't kill myself either, which is why it's worth noting there's no proof that happened. There's more evidence he fled to Argentina than there is he committed suicide. The point isn't that Hitler was perfect or that the Nazis were infallible, or that women and children should never fight in war. The point I was making here in this conversation is that the fascist model is one under which femininity is respected instead of erased as it is under degenerate liberalism. Hitler had the right idea and it was not that his program failed, as is the case with the Communists for instance. Germany was defeated by overwhelming force from the outside, it did not collapse due to its own ideological shortcomings. Every system has its flaws, every ruler deserves their share of criticism, but that the intended role of women under National Socialism is healthier and more creative than the role of women "emancipated" under liberalism is my sincere conviction.

File: polishfaggot.png (7KB, 580x98px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 580x98px

>>128433350
REMINDER TO IGNORE ALL POLISH OPINIONS