Excuse me for being slow, but why didn't you guys sign it?

>>128416888
>dude just give us $100,000,000,000 a year and get rid of 25% of your industries, we'll take care of the rest, I promise. Oh, not you China and India, you don't have to do anything, keep it up!

>>128416888
What part of 'bad for the United States' is hard to understand?

>>128417031
>India
According to Leo's documentary India does close to 0 damage to nature.

America is pulling out of international deals right now in an attempt to go isolationists to a degree. Ignore the increased military stuff, you are going to have that here forever. All the other arguments are other conservatives who don't realize what the fuck they voted for. We are slowly getting a Nationalist model and somehow fooling the neocons into going along with it due to solidarity stupid shit.

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>>128417146
That's a load of shit. Pic related.

>>128416888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI Grow forests

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>>128416888
No prob on being slow, OP. We've all got lives to lead.
We didn't sign it because it's gay.

>>128417331
I don't know if you're memeing, but poop isn't exactly as bad as say carbon monoxide.

>>128416888

Because fuck globalism, that's why.

I thought we were copacetic on this, Ivan.

>>128417584
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
They're the 4th biggest contributor of carbon monoxide emissions, 3rd biggest if you split up the EU.

Paris isn't Paris anymore.

>>128418052
*dioxide sorry, fuck. hol up

>>128418052
Bear in mind that they're like 4 times more populated than the US and they still produce 2 times less pollution.
Clearly burgers have some problems.

>>128417584
>poop isn't exactly as bad as say carbon monoxide

>Human excreta and the lack of adequate personal and domestic hygiene have been implicated in the transmission of many infectious diseases including cholera, typhoid, hepatitis, polio, cryptosporidiosis, ascariasis, and schistosomiasis.

>>128418052
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant, plants grow from Carbon Dioxide, humans exhale Carbon Dioxide

>>128417146
>According to Leo's documentary
Well just by that the whole documentary lost all credibility

>>128416888
UK wants gibs and we aren't losing anymore

>>128418273
That's because half of India are literally 3rd world with literally nothing, they live in boxes and sheds and shit on the street.

>>128418503
That's not what we're talking about.

>>128418325
How about coal? You got a problem with coal?

>As on 31 March 2015, India had estimated coal reserves of 306.6 billion metric tons (338.0 billion short tons), the fifth largest coal reserves in the world. India is the fourth largest producer of coal in the world, producing 536.5 million metric tons (591.4 million short tons) in 2014.

>>128418325
>Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant, plants grow from Carbon Dioxide
There aren't enough plants to absord the carbon in the air dumb fuck

>>128418596
Of course it is. I doubt people who can't even afford food and basic amenities can afford to contribute to the demand of industries that create pollution.

>>128418052
Because paying money to other countries doesnt solve the problem

>>128418632
coal causes acid rain and produces toxic pollutants like sulfur

>>128418273
Stop moving the goalposts Dmitry

>>128418734
So plant more trees. :^)
We don't actually need China, we can just get rid of China and replace it with a forest.

>>128418273
This is a lie, smog in India and China is so bad tha people can barely breath there, and yet under the Paris treaty the create NO pollution

>>128418940
But bringing up India in the matter of the US not signing the agreement is moving the goalpost, Ahmed.

>>128416888
Threefold reasons:
1. It's going to have the opposite effect of what it claims to.
2. It hurts the US.
3. Trump can use it as a bargaining chip for the dems.

>>128418922
Right, well India is the 4th largest contribute of that, on top of being the 1st largest contributor of poo. And yet the Paris agreement not only asks nothing from them, but will give them free US money.

>>128419102
No it isn't, India and China not being part of the deal makes it a shitty deal and a stupid one for the US to enter into.

>>128418596
That is what we're talking about. If you exclude the beyond poor people who have zero access to anything, per capita, India is polluting more than America. Same goes for China. Not that it really matters. China and India both pump out tons of pollution and need to be stopped, yet the Paris Accord refuses to put them to the same sort of treatment as the US. It's bullshit.

>>128416888
Because it's a non-binding contract that if enacted even in part would harm the US economy in its totality, while only increasing investments in what I can only call a literal scam.

>>128416888
Not ratified by Congress so sorry we're keeping our taxpayer money.

Wouldn't pollution harm all of us in the long run?

>>128419996
Yes. So?

>>128419996
What is yout point? Should we stop burning fossil fuels completely, and start living in the woods like a bunch of hippies?

>>128419471
China has one of the largest gold reserves in the world as well.

China keeps constructing empty cities as well.

This Paris Accord was done without Congress and whoever was behind it did some major asskissing to China

I don't see why it's CO2 emissions per capita. China explicitly chose a large population. Why should they be allowed to emit more just because they chose to breed more?

>>128416888
Obama wanted feel good points so he signed into it on Earth day

>>128419471
Give proof retard.

>>128419996
unless you raise it to over 1'000 ppm, CO2 is a minimal concern
Other pollutants are much more harmful to human health, and those are usually dealt with by condensing them from gaseous emissions
On the long run, I'm more concerned about sea conditions

>>128420308
Because CO2 per capita is a lot like dollars per capita.

If you have a lot of stuff, people want to take it away.
>"You can afford to give that to us"

Why? Here's why:
According to the UN-
>$100T+ bill
>Less that 1/2° temp reduction
>Less than 1% Target Result
>Only 8 months delay in change by 2100
>6 million jobs lost
>Increase in energy cost
>Massive financial redistribution to 3rd world, where energy is dirtier
>3rd world pop set to boom and flow into 1st world
>Likely massive crony capitalism

Now tell me, all the other aside, do you really think $100T+ for 8 months in 80 years is a good plan?

>>128417031
This. The deal was fucking garbage that wont do shit for climate change.

MAYBE 1/5 of 1 degree in the next century. For so much money and jobs being axed. It's fucking ridiculous and criminal.

>>128417146
>According to Leo's documentary India

Holy shit that changes everything

>>128419471
> I do not understand what a per capita ratio is

/pol/ proving once more it is the most retarded board out of the bunch.

>>128421448
He's right though...

I think you're just a brainlet that can't keep up.

>>128416888
Trump doesn't understand it. His dumbass actually thinks there is something to negotiate here.

>>128421559
> makes less polution on larger populace
> THEIR PER CAPITA IS HIGHER

no. Go back to school retard

>>128421448
Why is it the USA's fault when said countries have shittons of kids, putting a bigger strain om their natural environmemt? China's potential to feed and take carbon out of the atmosphere is similar to the USA's, India maybe beats it a little due to having no deserts(size taken in account).

>>128422619
> fact free debating

oh pol

>>128421663
That's not what he said idiot.
You need to read it again.

>>128416888
>but why didn't you guys sign it?
It is a treaty, and requires ratification by senate. No liberal seems to comprehend that it was unamerican to enter into the agreement in the first place.

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>>128416888

>>128416888

Huh? We did sign it. Actually, the fucker Obama signed it as a big FU parting gift to the American people. Trump is just pulling the signature off it.

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>>128417146
Tell that to all the mutants in India.

Trump doesn't believe in science. That is it. The deal isn't great for the US, it isn't great for anyone, but every other nation understands there is a potential crisis on our hands and it requires just a tiny bit of sacrifice. USA didn't sign the Paris Agreement simply because Trump is an idiot.

>>128423001
>confirmed for illiterate

fuck off retard. Try formulating an argument with that little brain of yours so we can have a laugh.

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>>128416888
Because man-made climate change is a literal hoax that has been disproven again and again and again and again. The only reason other countries are still in the agreement is because they're afraid they'll look stupid if they drop out.

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>>128423187
try formulating a counter-argument yourself, you already have mine.

Please display some of your amazing US public schooled education anon instead of just ad hominem;)

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>>128423056

>mutants

She is reincarnation of Shiva

>>128419996
The global elite don't actually give a fuck about real pollution.

Read this, it's pretty funny and good:
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/goodbye-paris-accord-climate/

>>128423311
Your "argument" is a strawman.
i.e. not an argument

You conveniently forgot the conditional on his statement.

>>128423148
>but every other nation understands there is a potential crisis on our hands and it requires just a tiny bit of sacrifice.

Then why do they say they won't renegotiate the deal? Kind of flies in the face of your bullshit narrative, doesn't it?

>>128419996
Take a look at the merchants of doubt (loltitle)

The big industry is so complacent/bold in their shilling, that one of their paid shills literally explains how they feed lies to the public to discredit climate scientists. It's a real eye-opener.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3675568/

Having said that: Climate scientists have often been wrong, it's just that there's quite obviously being a problem with our climate at the moment, only a truly ignorant man would ignore it.

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>>128423585
Still waiting for a counter argument, explain where I'm wrong and he's right, or produce one of your own. You have been given ample time to do so.

Respond again without any substance and it is your loss.

>>128423585
...it took over 10 years to reach an agreement that the entire world agreed upon. 1 dumb fuck doesn't have that much authority over the world and he has essentially forced this country to step down as leaders of the free world.

>>128423148
What does the Paris agreement do? Like why didn't it stop the VW emissions scandal? Why does China have to do anything? Is their anything in it about limiting the human population?

>>128424093
All i need to do is show your argument is faulty.

Here you misquote him as saying something he didn't because you forgot the conditional.
>>128421663
>> THEIR PER CAPITA IS HIGHER

Thus your argument is a strawman, and you haven't yet contributed any substance to the conversation.
Either you're a brainlet who couldn't understand such a complicated concept, or you're a dishonest faggot not worth anybody's time.

Which is it?

>>128424220
>...it took over 10 years to reach an agreement that the entire world agreed upon. 1 dumb fuck doesn't have that much authority over the world and he has essentially forced this country to step down as leaders of the free world.

Well the entire world doesn't agree.

>>128416968

hey don't worry abRAAAAAAp

oh dear, I also seem BRAAAAAP

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>>128424279
Since the US is the most polluting per capita on earth, I think we should start by limiting the population of the dumbest nation on earth.
>>128424538
You lost.

>>128424972
So both.

Well enjoy life as a dishonest retard.

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>>128424972

BRRRAAAAAAAAAPPP

>>128425051
> nothing substantial produced over 3 posts
> fact free debating
> I-I-I win!

Murrifats truly are pathetic.

>>128425273
projection: the post

>>128423347
She's a reincarnation of shit

>>128424279
The Paris accord has the world come to an agreement to limit greenhouse emissions. The problem Trump and /pol/ has with it is:
>Developed country Parties shall provide financial resources to assist
developing country Parties with respect to both mitigation and adaptation in
continuation of their existing obligations under the Convention
How Trump expects the rest of the world to abandon the oil and coal that made the develop world so industrial without any assistance or awarded any modern green technology is unexplained.

VW emissions scandal was 2015... Paris Agreement wasn't signed until 2016. and it's not like this agreement is going to stop every company from lying and breaking the rules.

China has agreed to reduce CO2 emissions by more than any other nation. They have just been granted a 13 year restructuring period which they are already far ahead of schedule.
China has plans to produce more nuclear energy than the rest of the world. They have 36 plants now, 21 under construction now, and a whole lore more planned. India too is ahead of their restructuring period.

Pretty sure, there is nothing in the agreement about limiting the population.

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>>128425273

If your country wasn't supported by us you'd have a better idea

>>128425367
>>128425193
>>128425802

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

Sadly, there is no cure for ignorance.

>>128425834
https://www.abcmouse.com/landing/sem:goog?gclid=CKKm0eeZpNQCFYSEswod5ccFMg

The first step is to become literate, my friend.

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>>128425834

The environment is constantly trying to kill me. Give me one reason why I should give a damn about the environment enough to fuck up my country's economy?

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>>128425834
>>128426199

We built Los Angeles in the middle of a desert. It's you Eurocucks that will have to deal with mid-eastern barbarian "refugees."

Maybe if the EU offered something more than shitloads of terrorists and liberalism I'd be more on board but right now - fuck the EU and fuck the Paris Accord or Agreement or whatever the fuck it was called.

And fuck you

>>128426199
>fuck up my countries economy
no one would even notice.

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>>128425949
>>128426199
>>128426688

fact free debating

murrifats pls stop making it so obvious you descend from inferior medieval European and poo-in-loo genetics.

>>128426791
The debate is already over, remember?

Now we're just laughing at you.

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It's a mystery.

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>>128427027

>>128425834

So according to this link the US is ranked 11th in their per capita emissions of CO2? Didn't you just say they were #1? Did you just btfo yourself or what?

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The Paris agreement called for developed countries, aka Western countries, to pay for the economic growth and development of non-developed countries. China and India would be getting "support" to grow their development.

The retarded logic is that if you speed their development, then you'll reduce pollution. It's that stupid.

And then the left wants to say that all the big businesses and bankers are for the accord. What you should get from that these globalists and multinationals will make billions and billions of dollars off the development of all the poor countries and will basically monopolize industry there. International banks will also benefit from increased national debt, which is why they're supporting it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldman-sachs-lloyd-blankfein-donald-trump-paris-agreement-withdraw-twitter-first-ever-tweet-a7768436.html
>Goldman Sachs boss Lloyd (((Blankfein))) uses first ever tweet to condemn Donald Trump’s Paris agreement withdrawal

So this "climate accord" is basically wealth redistribution and global social engineering disguised as trying to reduce climate change. Don't fall for it. You can have high environmental standards and not be in this agreement. The rest of the world signed on to it because they will either profit from it or their leftists are easily fooled.

>>128427335
This, Australia is this committed and US can't even agree with an economy 15x as large.

>>128427573
Archive

>http://independent co uk/news/business/news/goldman-sachs-lloyd-blankfein-donald-trump-paris-agreement-withdraw-twitter-first-ever-tweet-a7768436.html
https://archive.is/sMVUg

>>128427527
luxembourg, qatar...

ok murrifat

>>128427573
>The retarded logic is that if you speed their development, then you'll reduce pollution. It's that stupid.
That is not the logic. The logic is if you don't give them incentive who would agree to reduce their emissions and not follow the western example of oil & coal growth into the modern age.

>>128427629
Thank you archive bot!

>>128427573
Lloyd Blankfein? Gas the kikes

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>>128426917
> Ayuck! I sure showed that man with his facts n figures that I can't be swayed by them ayuck!

>>128427729

You're the one mentioning per capita... Do you have any doubt that if China had the same standard of living as the US that their per capita would be similar?

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>>128428994
> moving the goalposts

Out of all the relevant nations the USA is number 1 polluter on earth. Please repeat to me how the US is ''paying' for the rest of the world, corporate cuck.

You really want to compare the USA to Qatar for your argument, really?

> b-b-but qatar has a higher per capita!

wowww shit, that's some grade A debating there ! Did your friends at exxon mobile supply you that one or is there no misinformation for this chapter of argueing? Maybe you need to check back with your corporate masters to see if they can come up with some bullshit.

>>128416888
>Excuse me for being slow, but why didn't you guys sign it?

Because fuck globalism.

Want to have a globalist one-world tyranny?

Enjoy the heat.

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>>128425612

>Its unexplained why a country -$19T+ in debt would make cuts to the gibs that are usually wasted in shithole third world countries

ALSO

>How Trump expects....

Stop right there.

It should be:

"How the American taxpayers...."

It is unexplained. I voted for Trump to steer this country towards isolationism. Fuck giving billions of give to the third world. Go ask China or better yet - figure it out your damn selves.

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>>128416888
Ok look the deal was fiscally terrible for the US. They were expected to contribute $3bn to the slush fund, meanwhile the next highest contributors were Japan at $1.5bn, UK at $1.2bn, France and Germany at $1bn. Meanwhile China and India, the worlds biggest polluters were asked to contribute NOTHING, $0.

The US was also expected to lower their carbon emissions by a targeted 26-28%, and in a country where the GDP is so heavily tied to carbon emissions (through manufacturing, transportation, etc) some studies have shown that lowering emissions is tied to GDP at an almost 1:1 ratio - basically lowering the US carbon emissions by 28% might lower the GDP by close to the same, at least until economically viable and competitive alternatives can be used to replace existing methods.

The Paris Accord was carefully crafted to handcuff the US into a situation where it would weaken their economic and industrial global positions while allowing most other economies (namely China and India) to thrive.

Furthermore climate studies have shown that it would cost TRILLIONS of dollars or take over 1200 years just to lower the Earths temperature by a single degree Celsius. it's bordering on futility without willingly plunging into economic collapse and lowering the standard of living substantially.

It was an objectively bad deal for the United States.

>>128429252

>Out of all the relevant nations the USA is number 1 polluter on earth.

Wrong. China is.

>>128416888
it's going to be USA footing the bill and the rest of the countries looking around at anything but the bill on the table pretending they have nothing to do with it. there's no deal to be made.

>>128416888
In the US, the entirety of the right has been brainwashed, comprimosed and/or bought by rich crazy ultra libertarians like the Koch's and Mercers into thinking global warming is a conspiracy against the free market.

Its ridiculous because honestly there a ton of market based ways to combat global warming and we fucking need conservative thinking to help solve the problem but instead they just pretend it isnt happening or that God will sort it out.

Because fuck you, that's why.

>>128429700
.... a country with 5 times the populace, I'd like to think that per capita is a more reliable number.

Please stop being so goddamn retarded murrifat, you're not helping your cause by being extra-entitled and wholesale braindead in your debating.

>>128429571
I wouldn't even bother trying to convince these retards, they think America is the ultimate evil and they're some sort of planet saving heroes.

>>128429858
China produces more CO2 than the next three biggest polluters combined. I know you're trolling but at least put some fucking effort into it.

>>128417228
Not isolationism fair dealism

>>128430097
mavopet, denk even na over hoe groot China is. Als China even vervuilend zou zijn als de vs per hoofd van de bevolking, dan zouden ze nog 2,5x meer CO2 uitstoten.

Je mislukt zwaar, jammer dat je jouw mavo niet hebt weten af te maken.

>>128416888
Because we're done spending billions to fund windmills for Uganda

>>128416888
Dude the accord doesn't even do anything be real

>>128430321
Wait. Are you the /ptg/ copypasta guy?

>>128429858

You're the one making retarded arguments you dumb fucking cunt, stop resorting to ad-homs in every post you have been proven wrong in your arguments several times already.

>The US is the highest polluter per capita
Factually wrong
>Uhm, I m-mean the US is the highest polluter in total
Factually wrong
>Uhm I m-mean per capita
...


Learn to speak like a normal person you dumb cunt or at least sharpen your arguments so you don't embarrass yourself further.

>>128416888
Because the deal was horrible for the US. Obama wanted it because he's a self destructive socialist, Trump refused it because he's a patriotic conservative.
EU will come back begging for Trump's help in a few years before it's fully planned out, etc etc. Calling it.

>>128416888
>plans to renegotiate agreement

same as "renegotiating" trade agreement with Canada? Was this "withdrawal" just a populist show then?

>>128421448
Why should the USA suffer? Look at how much we have done for the environment and human advancement. And your retarded ass thinks the USA should decline and our scientific advances too just so third world shitholes can keep INCREASING their pollution and take our tax dollars. Fuck you, you're retarded. I'm really, really happy your pussy ass is upset and butthurt about Trump pulling out of this gay shit.

>>128429858
>100*2 is bigger than 1000*1

You're an actual moron.

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Because all it does is create a $100 billion per year slush fund for the UN, NGOs and corrupt third world dictatorships to dip their sticky fingers into, it would raise the cost of food, energy and fuel for us, would place onerous taxes on everybody to fill up the slush fund, it would force us to shut down iron and steel manufacturing and deindustrialize further, all while allowing China, India and Europe to continue expanding their power plants and industry.
Also, there's no hard evidence that any of the measures would have any effect on global average temperature, and there's no hard evidence that human-caused global warming is even occurring as climate scientists cannot model their hypothesis in any way that accurately reflects actual temperature trends.
The Paris Accords aren't about environmentalism, they're about stripping US sovereignty and redistributing US wealth to the third world and globalist groups like the UN.

>>128430097
I feel bad for you having that retard as a countryman. At least you're here to make it clear your entire country aren't retards, senpai.

>>128429740

It's against the free market in the sense that it significantly hinders it all for the likely result of reducing the temperature increase by 1/100th of 0.1 degrees.

American left-wingers have been misled to believe that the Earth's global climate is static.

>>128416888
Because communism can suck it; that's why.

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>>128418273
Sure thing Vaslav.

>>128420496
He left it in the loo, be a good lad and fetch it would you?

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>>128416968
>>128424888
STOP SHOOTING UZIS

>>128420701
Why not co2 per dollar then, since this is tied with economic development?

China pollutes more per dollar than most countries.

Simply using per capita ignores how much of China's ridiculously large population is poor

If the left want to reduce our environmental impact, why not do it on a personal level? Ride a bike to work. Don't use disposable napkins or cups, etc

>>128416888

Because it's meaningless other than a shame tool to get U.S. to curb its own industry and provide other countries with more gibs.

A more interesting question is why did North Korea sign when they don't want to cooperate on anything else?

>Pyongyang neglected to submit UN climate pledge

This means they ratified it but without any concrete plan.

>At the December summit, Ri reportedly said North Korea would protect the environment and wage “war on deforestation”. It aimed to cut greenhouse gas emissions 37.4% compared with 1990 levels, he said.

>North Korea ratified the Paris agreement’s predecessor, the Kyoto Protocol, although as a developing country it was not bound to make emissions cuts.

>Not bound

>Hey look stupid piggus, we care about stupid trees just like real country. Take us seriously now and gibs money and sanction lifts so we can put more toward nukes. Here is a photo of all our happy people, happy at work planting trees.

>>128416888
Read the document.

Yes, that's right, you would have to sit down and read the whole document. Once you have actually read that, you won't make retarded posts like this anymore.

It is a massive fucking scam and support for it is totally reliant on useful idiots like yourself not reading the fucking thing and believing this instead:

> BUT IF IT SAYS IT IS A CLIMATE AGREEMENT IT MUST BE A GOOD AGREEMENT THAT SAVES THE CLIMATE AND IS WORTHWHILE AND IT WILL FIX THINGS

Kill yourself immediately.

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https://xkcd.com/1732/

>>128416888
Because our destiny is not owed to rich hypocritical Europeans. We had a war over this, remember?

Al Gore on TV right now lying his ass off about the Paris Tax!

>>128431516

I wonder why noone makes detailed videos going over these documents.

>>128430645
> get completely BTFO by logic
> Y-y-you must be some meme I read!

Holy shit, your mind truly is like a dry desert.

>>128430658
> factually wrong
> qatar and luxembourg

ROFL get out of here kid.

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>>128417146
>Leo
lol

>>128433645

You're the one being btfo by logic (your own logic). I'll just leave you be timmy

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>>128431280
>another american talks outta his ass
license plates here sometimes cost more than a car, measures have been taken to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, while your president does't even acknowledge climate change and call it a chinese hoax

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>>128434059
Shouting at facts while providing none, won't magically give you the edge in a debate anon.

Maybe this fact-free debating is tolerated here in your hugbox, but in the real world you would be laughed out of the room.

>>128434223
Lol stupid chink

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>>128434691
sure thing monkey

>>128416888
>why sign
What is bad for the USA is good for Hussein Obama.
What is bad for the US people is good for Hillary Clinton.
The ones who employ those puppets gave the order.

>>128416968
fpbp

>>128434241

I was going to make a big post explaining why you're a complete idiot but after re-reading your replies I understand I'm just falling for some shitty trolling. If you want to continue this conversation you will directly answer the question I made about a standard of living instead of constantly dancing around with per capita and absolute numbers. 9/10 though.

>>128427885
As much as you want it to be the case white people don't have to hold brown people's hand and buy them shit

>>128417584
>Pig farming is supposedly bad for the ozone because methane
>Pajeets shitting all over the place to the point in which their lakes and rivers are literally foaming, creating large shit-foam clouds when the wind picks up is fine
pick one

Because Trumps friends are in the oil, gas and coal business. Blatant corruption but you're all too dumb to realize it. He's selling out the planet to make his friends and himself richer.

>>128434223

they have internet in the labor camp?

>>128434223
I have audio of Trump calling you a lier

it wastes a ton of our money
also, Francistan has been temporarily cucked by the MACAROON

>>128437983
I have a vid of Trump being a liar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKhsOh0xGVM

>>128430873
There are ways to approach global warming without putting the market in a chokehold though. There is much more economic sense in changing to renewable energy than doubling down on fossil fuels.

>>128416888
Waste of money that accomplishes absolutely nothing for the environment.
It's not like we don't already have environmental policies.

>>128435775
1 hour later

> I wis gonna post facts for sure!
> still zero facts presented
> just a goalpost mover in the form of a question which isn't related at all to pretend you needn't supply facts to raise a point.
> y-y-yer jist trollin'!

/pol/ debating 101 rofl kys retard

>>128417584
>t.A pajeet living in Russia.

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>>128438550

If you focused all of your funding and efforts into nuclear, you could easily move away from finite fossil fuels into near limitless power with far more speed and efficiency than any renewables. This is considered undisputed fact by almost everyone; the only argument that liberals have against it is toxic waste and meltdowns, both of which are massively overblown and have benefits that you think would outweigh the negatives if global warming was truly as bad as is claimed.

This Paris Accord was specifically constructed to fuck over the first world in favor of the third world and BRICS. Did you know, for example, that China alone produces more CO2 than the EU and the US combined? Yet despite this, they are not obligated to do anything outlined in the deal supposedly working to save the planet until 2030, at which point they can just as easily pull out. Meanwhile the US and the EU are expected to just throw their economy down the shitter.

Every single major doomsday prediction given by scientists, politicians, and the media, whether it's about "global cooling", "global warming" in the last decades has failed to come to fruition.

Skip to 1:50 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhkocrEpaak

The idea of global warming is always used to:
>get people in the first-world to stop having kids to "save the planet"
>justify mass immigration because of potential "population displacement due to global warming"
>create more taxation, regulation and overreach
>reduce sovereignty by entering into these massive global institutions and treaties that will never be beneficial to your nation or its people, and somehow is pushed hard by big business and banking (like the Paris accord)

>>128417031
this true ?

>>128438450
I know that asians are pretty backwards when it comes to matters of decorum and vocabulary...

But Trump will not call them Currency Manipulators [to their face] during negotiations.

>ancient chinese secret, bro