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>hurr durr we must get rid of them You can't kill an idea.

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>hurr durr we must get rid of them

You can't kill an idea.
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Yeah just don't attack them and let them build their caliphate, what could possibly go wrong.
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>>128401061
ideas are created in the brain

wipe out all life on earth, no more brains, no more ideas.

checkmate. or you know, stop being a bunch of assholes.
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>>128403775
You're close.

Bad ideas are created in the subhuman brain

wipe out all subhuman life on earth, no more subhuman brains, no more bad ideas

checkmate
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>>128401061
Been waiting for the day when liberals would start white-knighting ISIS.
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>>128401061
But you can kill all those who believe in that idea.
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>>128401061
You can remove them all from your country
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>>128401061
we should start by getting rid of you, Abibi
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>>128401061
a couple of nukes might
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>>128401061
You're right.
We just provide another idea.
An idea put into action that will hamper whatever it is that they're trying to accomplish.
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea
>We must aggressively suppress """racist""" ideas
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>>128404266
the MOAB hit em pretty hard
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>>128401061
but some brains are receptive to some ideas and other brains arent.
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>>128401061
Sure you can, genocide in your own borders, lock down the borders. Problem solved.
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>>128401061

But you can murder enough of them untill no fucking sane sand nigger would even think about taking up islam.

We should from our late bro Adolf on how to do these things
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>>128403970
wrong

communism was widely supported by intellectuals of all societies
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>>128401061
No. But you can kill everyone who believes in it.
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>>128401061
No. But you can bomb the shit out of it.
>https://youtu.be/9FtnHc4gOP4
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>>128404477
"intellectuals"
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>>128404266
Ya know, Mexico, I'm starting to like the way you think.
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inshallah
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>>128401061
You can kill yourself though.
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Yes. To fight an idea, first you must understand it. And my guess is none of you plebes have any idea of where terrorist ideology comes from. hint it's not islam but that's pretty close
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>>128401061
You can't kill ideas, thats why bombing the shit out of the japs during WW2 didn't work, and their imperialist ideas are still doing well...
lmao
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>>128401061
Oh wow you watched V for Vagina.

I thought that was cool too when I was 13.

Yes, you can kill an idea, you just destroy the bodies which that idea inhabits.
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>>128404502
Fucking fake-ass minesweeper board. That part over Switzerland is unsolvable.
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>>128401061
The first recorded terrorists were the zealots in ancient Judea.
>Surprise surprise the Jews were the first terrorists.
The Romans responded in outright brutality and violence so as to create a sense they should never ever be fucked with.
> crucifixion
> public torture
> displays of the dead as warnings to others.
That is how we win
Turning back the clock to Roman times.
Rounding up those on watch lists and detaining and killing them in the most public and brutal way to send a shock wave of fear through all who think they can fuck with us.
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>>128404560
>>128404477
(((intellectuals)))
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>>128405051
Usually intellectuals live a sheltered life, thus not having the balls to think that some people deserve to starve or be left out, thus they follow why can't we all get along approach hence communism.
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Also, you can take a look at Facebook and Twitter comments these days.

The "we can't do anything about it" mentality (aka part and parcel, lay down and hope you don't get run over mentality) is slowly starting to take over mainstream opinion.

Nobody wants to say anything about due to the implication (gets accussed for calling out the murder of muh muslim)

Were fucked.
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We dont need to kill the "idea"
We need to kill them.

its like Duterte said, "I dont fight crime, I fight criminals, and I kill them."
Dead criminal / recidivism = zero

Its rattlesnake logic my friend. I used to live in a place where there were rattlesnakes (kelowna BC). Sometimes I would find a rattlesnake in my yard. I simply killed the rattlesnake, ussually with a shovel.
I did this not because im a dick who hates animals, quite the opposite.
I did this because the rattlesnake will try to kill me or my family, its his nature.
Now I didnt go looking for rattlesnakes.
I didnt capture them and try to understand why it wants to kill me
I didnt torture them to see if it knew where other snakes were hiding.
I didnt try to reform the snake.

I just killed them (and threw them in the compost).

Rattlesnake logic 101, class dismissed
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>>128401061
Yes you can
Just look at Native Americans
or the Jews trying to destroy whites

Dubai and Saudi Arabia are the best chances at this, since they are the more integrated 'western' cultures.

Also ISIS is able to project themselves as a far more powerful force than they really are thanks to weak men in peaceful times.
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>>128405407
>Dubai and Saudi Arabia are the best chances at this, since they are the more integrated 'western' cultures.
Not sure what you mean, but those countries are literally why ISIS exists in the most direct sense of the word
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According to CIA, ISIS is estimated to be around 80.000 combatants strong. If US launched a full scale invasion, they'd be over in less than a month.

But US won't give a fuck as long as there's status quo in that region.
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You can kill everyone who thinks that idea is a good one
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>>128405629
now why in fuck should US invade
let assad and the russians do the job
arm up the christians
do you realize what it costs for the US to project that kind of power
money would be better spent hiring putin to do the deed
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>>128401061

>kill every single person who has that idea
>where is the idea now?
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>>128401061
Nuke mecca
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>>128405380
I'm in Vancouver and we should meet up so I can kick your fucking ass faggot
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>>128401061
You can try and see what happens.
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>>128405380
Yep, the snake is merely a safety hazard that's easily removed.
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>>128405825
US wouldn't be happy with Assad winning and becoming an actual factor in that region. As I said, they enjoy status quo situation there. They don't give a shit about solving ISIS terrorism problem as long as they don't become a dominant factor in the region.
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>>128406202
Trump doesn't give a fuck about Assad
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>>128401061
Yes you can.
Ideas can kill ideas.
Religious beliefs are very strong ideas. Very hard to kill with ideas. Hence option 2.
Kill the ideas by killing the people who have said ideas.
Isn't radical Islam all about killing people who have some form of the idea "I don't need to live by the Sharia?" in a terror-inducing spectacle of carnage?
The capability of inducing terror via grand spectacles of carnage is a curse God gave to all humanity, not just radical Islamists.
Establishing the kingdom of Hell upon the earth is quite a simple matter indeed.
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>>128404477
believing in communism automatically disqualifies you from being a real person.
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>>128405932
Mi Amigo.
I always liked you better than canada.
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>>128401061
I was hoping you would say that, so when we slaughter them we will simply say that they can't be rehabilitated because you cannot kill an idea
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>>128405701
>>128405380
>>128404500
That literally sounds autistic
>violence
What a baboon-brained and primitive reaction to other baboons.

You're good-willed and protective and so you react very passionate and emotionally, but these emotions are also wrongly dictating your thoughts.
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>>128406592
t. spic
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>>128406932
>they can't be rehabilitated because you cannot kill an idea
nice one pajeet.
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>>128406932
What
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>>128406981
t. pussy
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>>128401061
Cant kill an idea but you can kill its followers
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>>128407674
he's also fucktarded can't even comprehend simple shit
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>>128401061
>destroy all mosques
>track down all muslims in west and kill them
>conquer muslim countries and force them to convert to christianity
You have now killed an ideology
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.

2 nukes did the job quite well with imperial japan
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>>128401061
sure you can
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>>128408068
>FUCK ISLAM
>LETS DO EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT MADE US HATE THEM
full retard
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>>128404575
We can be good allies in desvult 2
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>>128404664

k where does it come from
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.
Yes, you can. By killing every single follower of the idea.
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>>128409063
Who is there left hating if all of them are dead????

LEAF BTFO
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>>128409063
They hate non-Muslims because of what their religion teaches, asshat.
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>>128401061
Fuck off ahmed
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>>128401061
You can kill everyone who has that idea.
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Realistically, I think the best first step for fighting an idea is mockery. If everyone can openly say something is stupid, or challenge others (i.e. "OK why do you believe what you believe..?") we can open a dialogue and eventually even heads will prevail.

Unfortunately asking questions like this immediately flags you as a "racist", which is just so fucking stupid.
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>>128409802
Salafi/wahhabi ideology (started in 1700) that the Saudi monarchy believes in. Ottoman empire broke apart in ww1 and the British just handed Arabia over to these crpyto kikes allowing them resources, ever since then they've been spreading their terrorist ideology
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>>128401281

How the fuck do these guys have so much resources. Why can't we just starve them?
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>>128401061
If all the countries in the Middle East would just lay down their arms and work peacefully with the USA, then the US wouldn't have to fund whichever meager rebel groups will work with them and there would be no war. But there are too many sectarian conflicts, too many countries and little kingdoms vying for power, and the way they fight is through these stupid paramilitary organizations.

If we eliminate ISIS and the other jihadi groups, the Shias and Sunnis have a much harder time continuing their dickwaving contests. AQI only existed in the first place because the Gulf kept giving them money to go kill Shias. We've tried a couple times to intervene with cash in the hopes of controlling the groups ourselves, and it hasn't worked. We're hoping that just destroying them outright will give us a better result. In the meanwhile, our diplomacy continues to try and stop all these Muslims from being retarded and killing each other over bullshit, since it seems to be impossible for them to sort it out themselves.
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>>128409890
But they aren't dead when you become a part of them. You described doing the same thing that they all do. You're little Muslim killing group might as well be a rival terrorist group
good job for confirming your levels of retardedness
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>>128401061
We can try. Maybe the stragglers will get the message once we stand knee deep in sandnigger blood. Also,
>1 post by this ID
Don't forget to sage
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>>128410183
Well you can thank Saudi and Friends!

>>128410000
you literally can't read
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>>128410417
>If we eliminate ISIS
Start by stopping to fund it.
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>>128410718
We no longer fund AQI, we're now trying to destroy that mistake
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>>128410785
I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on that.They are just to useful for helping to justify the killing of our basic rights and the implementation of total surveillance.
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>>128401061
oh sure we can. ask the germans and the japanese.
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>>128410176
Salafis are not a radical irritation to other Muslims because of their stance on non-Muslims. Mainstream Sunnis share the vast majority of Salafi beliefs. What chafes other Muslims is that Salafis don't think others are doing Islam the right way and want to strongarm everyone into following Islam like they do. But this is an internal issue in Islam. Of course also international in the sense that Wahhabis are funding their brand of Islam and usurping cultural Islalms in many parts of the world. But from the non-Muslim point of view Salafism is a red herring. Normal Sunni Islam (and Shia Islam) teach the same hatred of non-Muslims. The Salafis didn't come up with their doctrines on their own. They seek to emulate the first three generations of Muslims.

>>128404664
How about study early Islam and then come back telling how the terrorist ideology is some recent invention. Muhammadans have always terrorized other peoples. This whole idea Islamic fanaticism is all about muh Wahhabism is nothing but the blue-pilled invention of liberals (including those in the Muslim world) in denial about what Islam fundamentally is.
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>>128401061
You can certainly quarantine it - since it requires a shield of moderate islam to operate, the only answer is to either purge or take control of the core ideology so that the distinction between 'moderate' and 'extremist' is no longer a vague notion but something concrete ie. reformation and removal of extremist verses and / or entire books

obviously this cannot be done overnight in the middle east
but we are still in a point of history where the native populations of western civility have the chance to stand up and demand action beyond empty statements meant to channel emotion into despair and depression, rather than RIGHTEOUS RAGE
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>>128401061
America did in WWII, Imperial Japan was an ideology, and we demolished it.
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I'm pretty sure killing them all would kill the idea
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Britracists btfo once again HURR DURR BASED DUMPFT SND FRRAGE
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No but you can stop providing western-made weapons, western-made ammunition, or western-made vehicles to them.
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>>128401061

Correct. You just kill the people who practice the ideology. It's not rocket science.

Even easier - Just kill all non-whites.
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>>128403970
Wipe america out.
checkmate
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>>128411636
any biological solution you're dreaming up is going to end up being your coffin ;)
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Tell that to the Japs after Hiroshima and Nagasaki
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.
Sure you can, with a 9mm to the brainstem.
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You can kill ideas with ideas. Hell, the quran is my toilet paper (I'm not kidding)

Hitler started an idea, I hope you can continue that idea.

Here's a Neo Nazi/right wing Discord if you're interested:
discord/MevdpkW
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>>128401061
You can kill everyone. No people - no idea.
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>>128411331
>Mainstream Sunnis share the vast majority of Salafi beliefs
The main reason Terrorists exist is because of the Salafi understanding of Takfir. No other Islamic school of thought shares this understanding.
The rest of your post is irrelevant.
>The Salafis didn't come up with their doctrines on their own.
They did. Well it was Ibn Tayymiyah in 1300, who fucking died in prison and no one respected anything he said until crypto kikes found his shit and proceeded to create a corrupted Islamic ideology

How about read the quran. Argue all you want about what Muslims do but if it's not in the Quran then it's not Islamic

That being said anyone who says 'ISIS is not Muslim' is literally doing takfir just like ISIS does
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>>128411637
America frankly is what's holding the world together. What's happening in the Middle East is dirty, but the USA's hand is forced because of OPEC. If we did nothing then OPEC would dissolve and the USD's value would plummet from massive inflation, triggering a devastating economic depression throughout the world, since the economy of pretty much every country on Earth is propped up by the US endlessly printing money.
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.
They are killing freedom and democracy just right at the moment.
Euro country never had so little powers on their own land. And that include the third reich occupation.
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>>128410183
>How the fuck do these guys have so much resources.
I wonder (((why)))
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>>128412084
Well, if you can ignore OPEC then why not do it?

discord gg/QZ8TJsB
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>>128401061
>IDEAS ARE BULLETPROOF
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But you can nuke the most powerful symbol in islam (the cube) and turn the whole area into a radioactive glass parking lot.
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>>128401061
>implying imbred shitskins are able to think
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>>128409983
Comic is wrong, blacks aren't people
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>>128412512
it's edited
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>>128412310
We can't ignore OPEC. It forces oil to be traded in USD, which means that countries like China that want to buy from the OPEC nations have to maintain large USD reserves. The USA would love it if people did not do this, but other countries are not interested in what the US wants. We are essentially forced to remain in the Middle East because the Gulf States have leveraged the perpetual, bottomless greed of the world's countries to insure themselves against destruction.
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>>128412679
I'm aware
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>>128401061
I don't care about the idea.
It's the people i want to get rid off
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>>128401061
sharpen your swords and get the crosses
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>>128406258
>implying Trump's opinion would actually matter in that kind of situation.
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>>128410183
turey support isis
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>you can't kill an idea
Then we'll have an infinite supply of soap
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*Except white people's ideas
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>>128405629
>>128405825

The majority of ISIS are located in one city.

The ISIS meme could be ended in a matter of hours.

Their entire Iraqi combat force crossed into Iraq in the open in convoys. They could have been wiped out entirely.

The U.S. has no interest in stopping ISIS. Just containing it to Syria.
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>>128406981
Literally
>If you kill your enemies they win

Typical torontofag logic
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>>128409063

So you're saying you want to convert to Islam?

What if I DON'T want to convert to Islam, you dumb cunt?
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>>128410638

You are buying into a repeatedly debunked meme.

ISIS don't hate you because you bombed Iraq and removed Saddam. They were on the same page.

They hate you because you're Kuffir.

That's it. You're not a Sunni Muslim, therefore you should either be;

>Paying Taxes
>Dead
>Converted

That's all there is to it.

If you weren't an ignorant, poorly educated piece of shit, you would also know that ISIS has issued clear demands, repeatedly, including 2 days before this attack.

Broadly they want three things;

1. The west to not intervene in the Levant

2. The west to stop prohibiting Muslims traveling to the Levant

3. For their followers to;

A. Kill non-Muslim westerners to encourage their governments to comply with the above requests

B. Keep western governments focused on internal security.

The solution to all of these problems, if you don't want war, is to comply.

Let Muslims do whatever the fuck they want in Syria and Iraq (and given how things were going, there's a high probability Assad would have killed them all early on if not for Western intervention). Let Muslims from your nations travel there and simply ban them from ever re-entering.

It's not rocket science.
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>>128411830

23 And Me bro.

Anyway, we don't have to do anything. The Israelis have been working on it for years.
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>>128412789
This is so retardedly backward it's not funny. Economic hitmen mindfucked the saudis into only selling in US dollars decades ago. The entire american economy is based on these petro dollars. Have you never been on the internet before?
>>128412878
>Implying Trump isn't the commander in cheif and can just fucking get the military to force whatever he wants done
>>128413077
I know right? fucking kill me
>>128413120
>another fucktard that doesn't know how to read
how in god's name did you reach that conclusion. I expect a britbong to at least understand english
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>>128413456
What does any of this have to do with what I said?
You are essentially agreeing with me
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>>128413550

>how in god's name did you reach that conclusion. I expect a britbong to at least understand english

You clearly stated that you don't want us to do the thing that made them hate us.

They hate us because we are not Muslim.

So what other alternative is there to making them not hate us but converting to Islam, you stupid motherfucker.
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>>128413693
what I said
> MADE US HATE THEM
what you said
> that made them hate us.
LEARN TO FUCKING READ YOU MORONIC PIECES OF SHIT
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.

Exactly. That's there are so many Shakers all across the world.
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>>128401061

wrong, surrender man.

you can definitely kill the people who have the bad ideas.
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You contribute nothing to the discussion by saying you can't kill an idea you fuckwit.
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>>128401061
o rly Pierre, I mean, Kader? Google "genetic pacification"
Of course you can kill an idea. You can even kill a temperament.
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>>128401061
you can stop them from getting into your country so they can't fund terror attacks with british taxpayer money
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>>128401061

>You can't kill an idea

You can if you round up every single person with the idea and send them to extermination camps.
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>>128401061
but you can kill everyone who supports the idea, which should be done with communism as well
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>>128412845
I'm for the eradication of all middle easterners
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You can kill all the mudslimes.
No blood circulation, no oxygen, no idea.
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>>128412069
A reminder that it has always been accepted that Muhammad and his companions were the perfect way of Islam, and by extension the model for Islam is that generation and the following two generations.

The Salafi reform is about erasing heterodoxy and cultural baggage and inventions and purifying the religion back to the Islam of the first three generations. (The word salaf means predecessors.) In the Islamic context this is undoubtedly a noble pursuit! Maybe it can be said that their methodology is iffy at times, especially in the context of taqlid, but in principle there is nothing Islamically wrong about what they aspire to.

Islam is not a DIY Qur'an religion. This is exactly why the first generations of Muslims are so important. Because they knew the true Islam of Muhammad and the Sahabah and hence are the model for how the teachings of the Qur'an ought to be understood. And this is also the meaning of hadiths, to better understand the Qur'an. What you're saying implies some kind of freedom to interpret the Qur'an the way you want.

With regard to takfir:
1. Not all Salafis are takfiris in the terrorist sense. Most of them are not. In fact, many Salafis do takfir against deviant terrorist groups.
2. Doing takfir can be mandatory in mainstream Sunni fiqh!
3. Prohibiting takfir would make a lot of Islamic law nonsensical.
4. The question of takfir is not whether it is allowed but the criteria based on which it is allowed or obligatory. Obviously ISIS doing takfir is a load of hooey because they do takfir against anyone who disagrees with them rather than based on strict criteria.
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>>128413550
>The entire american economy is based on these petro dollars.

What part of my post implied anything different? Yes, the American economy is entirely based on petrodollars - which is why it would collapse if OPEC dissolved. The only reason this is the case is because other countries hold massive USD reserves. Nobody forced them to do it, but they did it anyway. If the US economy dies, so does the global economy. And that's entirely the fault of the Saudis and friends for creating OPEC, and of other countries for buying into the system in the first place.

America has become the number 1 economy, but that comes with a curse, one for which it is not really responsible, and yet it receives all the blame anyway
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>>128401061
We can damn well try
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>>128404952
how so?
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>>128414209
nvm I see it
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>>128413456
True. The West should not be fighting ISIS. We should let them win and send all the Muslims there. The growing tensions would make us more authoritarian and patriotic. Then we could carpet bomb them into oblivion.
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>>128412861
Thank you for posting my lord. Deus vult!
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>>128413659

I'm not agreeing with you. I'm saying IF we wanted to go down a route to non-violence, that it would be a solution.

That's not what I would want.

I'd prefer a final solution to the muslim question.
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>>128401061
but you can kill moslems mohammed
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The best possible response must include the destruction of Mecca during the hajj (20-21st September this year) as well as Medina, and remove all kebab from Jerusalem forever. While that is done, vet everyone and infiltrate the mosques and Islamic centres and clubs in the West. Disappear people and hand out free helicopter and C-130 rides over the North Atlantic. It's time to stop playing and start efficiently purging the scum.

Another option is bio-warfare after the purging. Let a few stay and then deport them to countries that have been banned for refuge/immigration. Give them 'health boosters' and then send them to those shit-holes with some nicely engineered Tuberculothrax or SARSbola. Quarantine all travel everywhere to unaffected countries who institute the same quarantine and who have no cases after a safe period. Shoot everyone else down and vaccinate your own, using a pig-derived or dog-based gelatin as a stabilizer. Kill them down to an ethno-religious non-entity and occasionally launch 'interventions' to keep them dead.

Seriously, fuck these people and get them out of the West. That's enough of this dumb shit.
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>>128401061
We'll settle for killing its believers.
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>>128401061
t. caliphate of frankistan
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>>128413693
>just roll over
It's no wonder American servicemen were welcomed by your women.
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>>128406981
I would like to introduce you to the Cathars, but they unfortunately no longer exist. You can kill a belief system. You just have to do so with conviction and with no tolerance for people who try to lecture you on the matter.

There were many ways that the Catholic faith killed Cathars, some of which were very humane. They also did not kill all Cathars. But the people who spoke against the church about the Cathars?

They were burned at the stake. Shut your fucking hole, stupid. Primitive or not, solutions are no longer to be found in your Captain Sweden-style approach to life.
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>>128401061

But you can kill its believers.
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>>128411561
Too bad you stopped the Serbs from that you fucking Croat zoo animal
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>>128401061
>US and British intelligence coordinate to shut down literally every ISIS / Extremist website, and track every social media user posting related content and searching for it
>US and British law enforcement agencies execute warrants against every single user being monitored for posting extremist propaganda and searching for it
>Agents are put in place in every single Mosque countrywide to monitor for extremist preaching
>Law enforcement arrests clergy of and shuts down every Mosque participating in extremist indoctrination
>Charges include sedition, conspiracy to commit terroristic acts, conspiracy to commit murder

Within months we could clean most of the domestic mess up. It will take strong leadership, and a willingness to ignore the cucks who will undoubtedly march in the streets chanting "not all muslims", even if every single one arrested is confirmed terrorist.
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>>128413456
http://clarionproject.org/factsheets-files/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf
Page 30
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>>128414092
anyone can claim to be influenced by anyone else and then make up a bunch of bullshit. you are actually going to trust the description salafis give to them selves? fucking cuck
>In fact, many Salafis do takfir against deviant terrorist groups.
that's the problem. you can't do takfir willynilly. you need a court. Only the Salafis think that any individual can do takfir. it's in their ideology and it's what Taymiyyah said

you literally have no idea what you are talking about. do you even know what takfir is?
>>128414143
>The USA would love it if people did not do this
that's the retarded part. Unless you meant Trump, king nigger and the jews have always relished in their cheap oil and world dependency on the US. that's kind of how globalism works
>>128412861
holy shit the pope browses 4chan
>>128414518
yes kill all the terrorists. you still aren't disagreeing with me. what makes you think that you are? what is your perception of my perspective??? honest question I'm confused
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>>128401061
You can kill the people who have the idea.
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>>128412069
>if it's not in the Quran it's not Islamic
>He thinks the Quran is the only canonical source in Islam

Absolute state of leaves
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>>128406981
It's called an investment.
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>>128415574
All other sources are supplementary. If there's no basis in the quran, it's not allowed. a billion muslims that think otherwise, that's the problem.
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.
Yes you can. How many Catharis are left? None. Catharism is a dead religion, one that was exterminated. It was exterminated back before we had weaponry capable of creating extinction level events, it was exterminated with simple steel. Through but simple swings and stabs and chops and jabs, Catharism was nothing but a pile of corpses. Anything can be killed if you try hard enough.

Anything.
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>>128415521
Yeah, I'm talking about Trump. I'm sure he would love it if the USA was not beholden to the whims of the Gulf states and forever mired in retarded Middle East disputes. He would also probably prefer it if China was not sitting on over a trillion dollars of reserve USD while our trade balance remains utter garbage. The hypocrisy of the EU is also grating when they sit back and criticize the wars in the ME while benefiting directly from our interventionism. Presumably his long-term goal would be to leverage our position as magic-money-maker into an economy that's based on physical industry and tangible goods, instead of on horseshit.
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>>128412017
Make that 50'
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>>128416204
yeah that's why he fucked the climate agreement
cheap american oil here we come. the saudis don't know what's going to fucking hit them.
also iran pointed out that their last revolution happened because they bought too many weapons and when everyone got them their coup happened. trump sold those weapons solely on the condition that they join the fight against ISIS. he literally said to their faces to stop fucking helping ISIS
FUCKING TERRORIST SAUDI KIKES ARE GONNA GET FUCKED WOOO
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>>128401061
Exactly.
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>>128401061
but you can kill everyone who holds that idea, and if afterwards more people adopt that idea, kill them too.
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>>128401061
Yes, but we can kill its followers.
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>>128415790
Islam isn't anything more or less than what it's believers think it is. Are you autistic?

>THE VAST MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS DON'T DO ISLAM PROPERLY BUT THAT DOESN'T FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE ISLAM REEEE
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>>128401061
I'm pretty sure we would not have muslim terrorism if we killed every single mudslime in the world.
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>>128417868
that's just how shit works. you'd figure that out if you could grow up.
anyways there's multiple schisms in islam so it's not like they even agree
but what my point was is that most muslims have never even read the quran. most christians think premarital sex is okay, but it's a sin plan and simple
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>>128401061
whites having the idea of islam should be hung drawn and quartered to be honest. that means anyone who looks half slightly tanned should be deported on site
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>>128401061
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>>128412942
And you do that too?
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>>128419999
wew
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>>128401061
We can kill people who have the idea in their heads.
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>>128420065
he's probably kurdish
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>>128401061
>Hurr you can't kill an idea

Fucktards like you said the same thing back in the 40's

Yes you can. And it only took two nukes against the Nips, who where as brainwashed as them.
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>>128401061
We just need more hugs
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>>128401061
Yes we can, it's just most people can't palate the brutality required to do so. Imperial Japan was ideologically driven. They even had their own suicide bombers. We nuked them into submission. If we glass half of the Arab world, including mecca, and threaten to keep doing so should terrorism continue, I have a feeling they would rethink their actions.
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>>128401061
>refugee detected
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>>128420433
We need more 20 megaton "hugs".
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>>128420648
No actually the moment you do any damage to the black box, the number of terrorists in the world goes to 2 billion. it's in their book. war against islam means instant violent response. the book is all about it's precious self defense
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.

Yes, but you can kill the people who have this idea.
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>>128420854
Neutron and moab hugs
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>>128420922
Let the bodies hit the floor
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Isis is currently not afraid of us, we should change that situation
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Deus vult !
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>>128401061
They can't have ideas if they're all fucking dead
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>>128420922
Some say if you harm the magical box, all mudslimes around the world blow up in unison.
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>>128401061
Sure you can. Enormous, groundbreaking events and ideas in history, ones with countless people spreading them, get memory-holed all the time and always have. It's harder now that we have the internet, sure, but it's not impossible for an entity with enough resources to annihilate an idea completely and permanently.
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>>128410052
the only people who practice taqiyya and kitman are shia dogs

it is completely unheard of in sunni and especially salafi/wahhabi beliefs

anyone who conceals the truth of the quran to sugarcoat it for kufar are munafiqin and will join the sinners and kufar on the day of judgement as fuel for the grand fire
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I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see
So many young Europeans red-pilled like me
Who share the same views and the same exact beliefs
it's like a fucking army marchin' in back of me
Jewish lies and deflections, have our anger aimed
In no particular direction, just sprays and sprays
while fake news and disinformation, plays and plays
'Til it stays stuck in your head, and you hate your race

http://youtu.be/O5lShsePsD0
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>>128422148
People with british accents should not rap
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>>128422100
wtf r u isis
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>>128423977
obviously not

i just think that the truth of allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) shouldnt be obfuscated or sugarcoated or even concealed just for the sake of kufar and their feelings towards islam
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>>128422100
allen acbar my fellow mooslem
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>>128424277
niqab is against islam. you sound like a salafi
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>>128424423
i wear niqab
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>>128424497
then you fail at islam. stop it and repent.
astughfirullah
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>>128401061
but youu CAN burn every mosque down
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>>128424583
why is it unislamic? it is written in the sharia that women should be covered by hijab

niqab and burqa are forms of hijab

are you trying to say sharia is unislamic? because it is the will of allah swt

are you saying you are munafiq?
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>>128424822
>it is written in the sharia
what the fuck is this. there is only human interpretation of sharia and is prone to error, only allah knows sharia now
quran forbids niqab. it literally says to show your face. do you want me to find the verse for your fucking ignorant terrorist ass? you are the only "munafiq" here (which btw was an archait term till your terrorist kind brought it back using it improperly)
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>>128425048
https://islamqa.info/en/21134

read, kufar
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>>128401061
yes you can......kill everyone who has that idea like pinochet
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>>128401061

Oh, you can kill it.

Muslims killed Zoroastrianism after all. Wanna know how they did it? They oppressed the Zoroastrians and made sure that they'd be unable to continue spreading their ideas. They exterminated them because Allah is their true god. They couldn't allow their ideas to flourish. Their ideas which tainted their own, and would always come into conflict with their beliefs.

You do the same to them. Exterminate them. Show them that their god is worthless and won't protect them. When you reduce their numbers to a mere million in a few years, they'll start to understand what's going on. They may be a bunch of dumbfucks, but even they would be stupid not to see their decimation. You wage a total war on anyone that's a muslim. That includes women and children. ESPECIALLY women and children. You put the absolute fear of god into your enemies once you make it clear that even their women and children aren't safe. You put the fear of god into your enemies once you make it clear that even the """innocent moderates""" will be put to death just for being Muslim.

You kill the ones that have the idea, you kill the idea. You don't cut off the fucking head of the hydra and just hope it doesn't come back. You atomize the entire damn thing and make sure that not one cell of it is even alive.

We should've done this ages ago. Back before they infested our countries. If we did this, we could've literally scared Islam out of existence with minimum bloodshed. But now we're weak and seen as cucks, and so that means even more people will have to die. Forget rivers of blood. With a billion muslims, there'll be enough blood for an entire fucking ocean.
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>>128404963
It worked really well for the Romans.
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>>128425494
>referencing a salafi website propagating terrorist ideology
you might as well be ISIS, that website says anyone can declare any other muslim an apostate
did you actually read the quran? the two verses mentioned in your link are mistranslated and taken out of context
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After 2 nukes we dont have Japanese kamikazes to worry about.

Yes, you can bomb ideas until they're in history.
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>>128426325
hehe


I can feel it already
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oh woops didn't finsh my sentence
>>128426266
>you might as well be ISIS, that website says anyone can declare any other muslim an apostate
and then kill them. this is called takfir, and you need a court to do this, only salafis believe other wise.
>>128425494
funny you so quickly called me a kufar. are you going to come behead me now? you are literally the exact same as fucking isis
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>>128401061
yes you can, with enough blood.
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in the age of the internet can people still not figure out religion is astrotheology & allegories? i mean how fucking old do you have to be to not see allah is a moon god and all ancient semitic religion was based around reproductionary cycles of the moon and the womb/woman's periods. jesus fuck. read a book.
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>>128401061
The hell you can't.
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>>128401061
Yes and we've seen how you do that too. Target their families and shit. Stalin did it, Hitler did it, Ghengis Khan did it. It's just these are answers were not allowed to use.
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>>128401061

You could turn the entire middle east into a parking lot.
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>>128425580
Say thank you to america English, that´s you problem maker number one right here.

You did invade Iraq you did create ISIS you protect ISIS and the supporters of isis, the saudis and England was in it all along.

I can just say to the latest attacks. ahahahahahah


Bow tell me English, was it worth it to go and murder sadam? Was it worth it to support Saudis? and you fucking answers to terrorism ahahahahahah is ahahahahahahaha take even more civil rights of your citizens after CCTV and spying on all internet traffic.
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>>128426266
what is your madhab?
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>>128426986
They where attack´d by English man not middel easterners.
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>>128401061
>1700 fighter of ISIS came from France
>the foreigners have stronger ideologies that locals
>larping frog thinks he has a valid point

You can't kill idea but you can kill the people who have them until no one has that idea anymore
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>>128401061
Kill all its adherents and yes you can, at least for a moment.
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>>128427239
you've revealed yourself to believe in the same shit as ISIS and you keep posting? have you no shame? I believe in the quran
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>>128425580
what an edgelord
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>>128428113
i also believe in the quran. tell me, what is your madhab
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>>128425580
>Zoroastrians
My friend is one. Your argument is invalid. The Mazda car is named after their god
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>>128428277
if you believe in the quran you will stop being a salafi. what is "madhab" I only have ijtihad
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>>128427483

good luck with that. Hasn't working in all of history. Ideas always come back

you might be able to change a religion, but thats hardly killing it. As long as religions exist, they can be used to foster extremist ideas
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>>128428467
people like to throw the word salafi around like it is an insult to love your creator the way he was meant to be loved and worshipped

madhab is sect. are you sunni? if so are you hanafi? maliki? salafi? or are you shia?
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>>128401061
I almost did, if it wasnt for those pesky Anglos.
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>>128401061
I'll try.
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>>128428692
salafis have corrupted the islamic understanding of takfir. al wahhab and ibn taymiyyah did not understand what the quran says about killing other muslims.

my parents are one of those. I tell them they are wrong to pray without learning arabic. I only follow ijtihad
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>>128404502
Pretty sure Ukraine and Russia had more terrorist attacks while romania and poland had kind of none
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>>128401061
You can ban or deport its carriers. That's good enough.
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>>128428889
wait why don't your parents know arabic? are they both reverts?
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>>128428975
Maybe your country should stop helping ISIS, Al Nusra and etc
But of course, a stable middle east is bad for Isreal
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>>128429140
knowing what noises the letters make without knowing any words does not mean you know arabic. praying 5 times a day to what is essentially gibberish to us is not islamic. recitation without actually reading knowing and understanding what you are reading is not actually recitation. this is a culture of ignorance and a disrespect to islam
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>>128429410
see this is what i find interesting

you are a quran and islam purist, clearly

why then, is salafism not appealing to you?
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>>128429410
Yeah but fuck Islam anyways. You ought to tell your parents you feel they are reverted or blasphemous then ask them for a ticket to Turkey and bus far to Iraq. Now fuck off with your filthy peasant prophet and his fake faggotry.
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>>128401061
Stop oppressing ISIS,it's islamophobia.
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>>128429653
I just explained like 5 times. Do you know what takfir is?
salafis have corrupted the islamic understanding of takfir. al wahhab and ibn taymiyyah did not understand what the quran says about killing other muslims.
want me to copy paste it again?
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>>128425580
Yeah and you know will happen after that?
Terrorists are still going to be saying they're muslims as they blow themselves up as a final fuck you to edgelords like you. You'll have to exterminate every brown person. Even after that other non-whites will replace them and blow up the west to resist you.
If you declare a race war you'll have to fight China and India and both have nukes. In another 50 years they'll probably be able to face the west militarily.
Liberals will prevent your faggotry from happening.
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>>128429729
I tell them we should go back and fix our country all the time instead of mooching off white people land. Fucking cucks
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>>128415392
All I feel is rage
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>>128429729
Also did you tell me to join ISIS? What the fuck kill yourself
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>>128429410
How can we meme the dumber of your kind into attacking Jews instead of goys.
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>>128406356
Ideas don't kill ideas. Often killing people in favour of certain ideas, makes them more favourable with time. One idea can make another obsolete.
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>>128430712
>says Israel's greatest ally
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>>128430712
Join Hezbollah. They are Shia though. Alternatively move to Syria and join the army.

Israel is occupying Syria at Golan Heights. If there is stability in the region that means Syria will try to take it back. Syria's army is mostly Sunni (fighting alongside the Shia hezbollah. who ever said Sunni and Shia hate each other? It's Muslims vs Salafis. With ignorant Muslims brainwashed into being sympathetic to Salafis, because the Saudis have control over the black box which Muslims pray to...)
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>>128404703
>bombing the shit out of the japs didn't work during ww2

haha fucking east poors just don't get what we did to their pathology
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>>128401061
No, we don't kill the idea. We traumatize them so hard they won't want to be on the same continent with us.

And then we traumatize them some more. The arab must learn fear.
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>>128431182
I don't want to join it I just want muzzles in Europe to go after Jews instead of goys. Is it possible? What social media do they use
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>>128404477
by retarded overeducated "intelectuals" and (((intelectual))).
And then the commies threw them in gulags. Such intelecut.
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.

WTF
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>>128430712
>>128431182
Or move to Iran. They let everyone live there, even Jews! But they hate Isreal. Even some Jews hate Israel! It's zionism that's the problem
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>>128401061
tell them that muhammad beheaded childrens from banu qurayza tribe, raped their women, exactly what isis did to yezidis
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>>128404664
It's been 1400 years of jihad. I'm pretty sure that is a pattern.
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>>128431934
Well you can remind all the Muslims that the Jews want to demolish the Al Aqsa Mosque to allow building their Third Temple so that their (false) Messiah can come. They are already excavating making tunnels underneath.

But to like, make them hate all Jews? That would require lies and deception

>>128432083
Yeah so much jihad when the Ottoman empire was around right?
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But you can silence them

Pic related
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>>128431934
What I meant was to tell the Muslims in EU to move to Iran. It's a great place even for Sunni's. Helping Iran is hurting Israel
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America, arguably the strongest military in the world, spent ~10 years fighting terrorism in Iraq with little to show for it. Iraq is still a piece of shit.

Guess where ISIS first began? That's right Iraq.

So explain to me how another invasion will surely defeat islamic terrorism this time instead of just brewing up more trouble and more terrorists?
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>>128401061
But you can drop a nuke on it.. which will slow it a little
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>>128411587
Fucking amen to this. If it isn't obvious by now, we fund terrorism by virtue of our taxes.

That 130 billion bucks we are giving to Saudis will be used to create a much worse ISIS. Next rounds of terror attacks are just going to get more and more sophisticated.
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>>128433047
>fighting terrorism
LOL
Iraq is a success. Obama did exactly what Isreal wanted, maximum destabilization in the middle east. Actually trying to get rid of terrorism using the army would be cake. Do you really think otherwise? Fucking cuck, learn about your own damn country
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>>128433210
The real problem here is America. Trace back history to around the 1950s when we supplied money and weapons to Saudi. Saudi promptly used this to fund terrorist organizations.

Had America/USSR minded its own business we wouldn't have this fuckfest.

The Persian gulf war and every war after that was a mistake. It only fueled more chaos. So when people tell me we need to go to war, again, I'm really quite hesitant over the impending results
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You can make that idea a whole lot less popular though
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>You can't kill an idea
You must not have ever fought against the US military. We absolutely can kill an idea.
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>>128433047
yes, the strongest military in the world with an ineffective strategy. We should have just let Saddam be, he would have taken care of the problem before it even became one. The second there would have been any of this 'insurgency' bullshit, he would have exterminated every man, women and child remotely connected to it. That's what western people don't understand, that's how you have to deal with these people.
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>>128432251
I'm ok with lies and deception.
I thought Jews already were the eternal sworn enemy of all Muslims is that a Jewish lie?
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>>128401061
Islam is pretty good at killing "ideas" in the areas it has conquered.

Really makes you think.
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>>128433436
Learn how to spell Israel correctly. So if they weren't fighting terrorists who were they shooting at? Turds in the sand?

It's hard to kill terrorists who live within the civilian population. Since Canada is alpha top dog, maybe you should consider going to war? Wait, I forgot Canadians are just pussies
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>>128401061
>watches V for Vendetta
>learns a platitude
>thinks he's hot shit
You can get rid of anything, just depends on the methods employed.
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>you cant kill an idea

Thats where youre wrong, kiddo
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>>128434102
Wars haven't been fought to win since ww2. The Jewish infiltration has changed it into a racket like they do with everything else. The fact that it benefits their own Middle East strategy on top of that is just icing on the cake.
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>>128434354
I agree, we're just spending those big defense bucks, not to mention saddam wanted to go to gold instead of the petrol dollar. Then there's the rebuilding contracts, absorbing their economy into the world's central banks, etc. etc. It's all money, everything else like "freedom" and "democracy" are nice buzzwords for the dumbed down population.

I was just making a point to the other anon, we could easily crush Isis if we want to, but it's not in (((their))) interests.
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>>128404502
>literally going to london and rome in 2 weeks

To live in fear or die in ignorance.
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>>128434103
religion of peace xD
there's no sworn enemy, the children of isreal used to be chosen and loved by god until they 'ignored the signs' or w.e the quran says
anyways, since muslims are supposed to have a hard on for self defense, you can say that the al aqsa mosque in jeruselum (which btw, muhammad and friends used to pray towards before they kicked out the pagans from the black cube, also he astral projected to there and then to heaven one time) say that the third most important muslim site is under attack by jews so they should go defend it.

trying to get anyone to hate all members of something else requires nothing short of brainwashing, and I can't really help you there.
okay there is this verse in the quran that says that to never make a non believer your friend, and lots of other negative things. that should make muslims dislike nonbelievers

but nonbelievers includes christians a lot of the time. kind of. I haven't really researched it properly, but context matters a lot in the quran. I'm sure there's plenty of verses that point out how lame and dislikable the children of israel are. definitely a lot about how they refused and denied the signs from god

just tell them to read the damn book lol. like, a different translation every time. my favourite translation is message of the quran by muhammad asad. it's banned in saudi arabia so you know it's legit
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>>128434192
They were defending the opium fields, to say the least. it doesn't take even half a brain to figure this shit out
they were fucking shoving them into syria, and into northern iraq the sunni area
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>>128434192
>Learn how to spell Israel correctly
Jew detected
To be more accurate, they were killing the more extreme terrorists and training/funding the "moderates"
after a few year when the more extreme people die, the moderates start looking pretty extreme, so the US start killing them and funding less extreme moderates.
and repeat until Trump went into power
It was all a giant scheme for the miltary industrial complex, for israel, for saudi arabia, and to go against russia and iran and syria and any country that doesn't have a jewish controlled central bank
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>>128401061
Is the idea located in some unaccessible supernatural cloud server? No. It's in your head. That head can also be shot.
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>>128401061
>You can't kill an idea.
You can kill all the people who subscribe to and forther propagate that idea.
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But you can kill them and desecrate their beliefs by putting bacon on their corpses
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>>128401061
No, but you can kill the people that have them.
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>>128401061

when the last person carrying the idea is torn to shreds by cluster bombs - you have killed the idea
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Muslim internment camps in the USA and then deport them all. Freedom of religion does not allow a death religion to destroy our country and culture.
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>>128401061
Who said anything about killing?

We're talking about making them assimilate by force.
Every other religion had to assimilate, it's time to Islam to get in line.
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>>128401061
You don't kill terrorist by murdering them, you kill them by cutting off their ties with the rest of the world, like America or Turkey.
That's why Europe is predestined to fall.
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>>128401061
> You can't kill an idea.
>soviets
>american dream
You sure as hell can, you just need a really big nose for that sort of thing.
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>>128401061
We don't have to. Isolate them in their shithole countries and they'll kill themselves with it.
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>>128401061
What can we do??

>>>/r9k/37487717

The shills are trying to establish a 'regular' muslim thread in r9k. How can we make them go away???? Pol pls help im a useless robot
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>>128401061
But you can kill ALL of the bearers of the idea.
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>>128408346
Actually that'sfalse almost all Japanese wanted to fight until the bitter end,the emperorwhoever got cucked and siggned peacetreaty

goodluck killing almost 1.5 billion people with nukes irradiating the earth for generations to come
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>>128403970

wow, what incredible insight

truly I am astonished at your powerful intellect
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>>128438739
A Japanese robot? I do no believe you, but yes, we must purge all Islamic activity.
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>>128436817
This. You kill so many that anyone who would even fathom the idea would know what awaits them. Fear is a powerful tool. If you show no mercy to followers of Islam, they will submit or die. It's too bad that modern political leaders in the West feel as if they are "higher" than that basic truth. They fear losing their power in "the next election" and prioritize it, when they should be fearing any invading force that would subdue their peoples way of life. In a monarchy or dictatorship of some form this would not be happening, because that ruler would use his unending time to rout out ISIS without care for spending or death of soldier. In our modern day however, every soldier seems too important. Tax dollars; too valuable. Men and women used to respect death for the greater good, but not anymore. This is reflected in Western society. This is why in the long run the West will fall. A whimper is all that will be heard. Everybody bending over out of kindness, only to get their heads chopped off while bowing trying to appease.

The only way to stop islamic terror is to eradicate every single person who believes in Islam or quarantine them to their deserts and let them rot.
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>>128441747
This.
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>>128401061
>implying this is some cuckservative anti-islam board
/pol/ is anti-shitskin, their ideologies are merely a byproduct of their biology.
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>>128401061
>No attempted coup or revolution has ever been quelled by any government ever
Lmao kys OP
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>>128428692
>the way he was meant to be
>secondary interpretation
Literally worse than a jew.
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>>128401061
An idea has no country or borders.

This all started by George W. Bush attempt to grab Iraq's oil after Dick Cheney's 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers in NYC.
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>>128401061

We don't have to get rid of them.

We just have to send them back
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>>128401061
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You can kill everything if you just want it bad enough.
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>>128444965
>this ALL started
Empires or governments grabbing resources from other countries is not some sort of new idea. Neither is using a tactic of fear to draw up support for said resource grabbing. The idea of "radical" Islam has been around for a long time as well. It's not as if because of GWB and Cheney it suddenly appeared. You can argue that it hastened its inevitability, but not it created it.
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>>128442141
>cuckservative anti-islam board
That's exactly what this place is

>hurrr durrr we going to kick der ass of der town heads hurrr

Good goy! The Muslim is your real enemy!
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>>128401061
This isn't just an idea though, it's a caliphate with a standing army.
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>>128445568
>people who fucked up so badly their regions of origin are regularly turned into warzones by themselves AND others
>not telling them to fix their shit and modernize if they want in
wew
It's like giving poors money instead of jobs to make their own and expecting good results.
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>>128403775

I completely agree with you.

>>128401061

Fuck off, baguette-nigger.
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>You cant kill an idea
explain national socialism's death
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>>128401061
Eurotrash supporting extremism as usual i see.
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>>128401061
See Germany
See Japan
See Argentina
See Chile
See UK
See France
See Itatly
See Greece
etc etc countless of countries in history lost their identity.

Yes, yes you can. War does exactly that.
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>>128446456
But its thriving here
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>>128409063
You have to be a next level cuck not to understand what he's saying... You should go check on your wife and see if she's pregnant with a Mudslime nigger already
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>>128446456
It didn't die.
It switched demographics and is now preached by college professors under the guise of protecting minorities.
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>>128448419
>nat-soc for protecting minorities
how does that even work
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