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GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA?
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>>128387521
any state accountability is fine imo since the state cannot be trusted
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>>128387521
>Protects citizens from dirtbag cops
>protects cops from being unfairly targeted or slandered
>Acts as objective record of events

How could they possibly be bad? Anyone against them is probably a corrupt asshole who doesn't want to get busted.
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>>128387651
you have it wrong friendo, NO ONE can be trusted
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It's great

Keeps cops honest
Shows the shit they deal with
Redpills others
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>>128387848
>Accidentally record a corrupt politician
>End up dead
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>>128387999
Also it has cops shoot people more which is a plus
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>>128387521
any increased liability to the american police force will be shot down some company offered to completely outfit the american police force completely free of charge and use their servers for a year

im all for it if it means some shithead cops going down
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great idea. encapsulate them in a tough shell and make them always on with audio recording.
>outs police brutality
>outs niggers being niggers
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>>128387848
price but thats about it
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>>128387521
Seth Rich case body cams, did they released them yet?
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Virtually takes away any 'dindu nuffin' defense
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>>128387521
They will expose stupidity and petty crimes committed by public servants but it ultimately will change nothing other than general accountability. It's a step in the right direction at the very least but it's not the clincher.
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Body cams are great. If Darren Wilson would have had one his career would have been saved. We would have also been spared the BLM shit shows in Furgeson and Baltimore.
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>>128387651
>>128387946
>Be police
>Do something bad or illegal on the job
>Review board says file footage was corrupted or lost
>Keep being police

It's already happening, body cam won't make footage accidentally wind up lost.
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>>128387521
It's going to increase arrests and convictions massively. Surveillance reduces crime and guarantees conviction when a perp is caught.

With biometric databases on those cameras, soon it will be impossible to get away with anything.
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>>128387521
good.
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>>128387521
They were originally used to show police brutality.
But all they did was show nigger brutality and that cops were acting perfectly fine all along.

Now the same people who called for their use are now complaining that the cams are racist for showing the truth.
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>>128387521
The only problem is that we don't have them on our politicians 24/7/365.
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They are a good idea but bad in practice

Problems no one thinks about and then gets stuck with the bill for:

1, should a cop be able to turn them on and off? Cops need privacy on the job for a myriad of reasons.

>talking to confidential informants
>talking to rape victims
>using the restroom
>breaks

2. Physical job

>Unlike a dash camera which has a protective shield around it in the former of a bumper protector, body cams have little protection. Cops have to tackle people, run, and they just trip.

3. Footage and evidence laws.

Unlike dash cam footage, which only goes on when the sirens are on, body cams are on for the entire shift. 8 hours may not seem like a lot of data, but imagine that for every officer on the NYPD, being saved in triplicate as per state law, and can only be ordered destroyed by a judge. That's a lot of data.

4. Freedom of information

Cops have to deal with confidential informants, rape victims, they see the worst shit. All of that data is public. Will people be OK with their 911 moments being on YouTube? Nothing stops a person from making a top 10 hottest rape victims or loneliest domestic violence video and posting it on luveleak or your tube
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>>128387521
great idea

cops have so much authority they need to be held to the highest standard of responsibility

cops have been getting out of hand recently and are real jumpy pulling guns when they really shouldn't

you should never point your gun at someone unless you think they're trying to kill you
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>>128387999
This. Exactly this.
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>>128387521
Bad idea. Cops are less likely to let you off with warnings. And they aren't able to rough up/shoot niggers indiscriminately.
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>>128388476
hmmm, actually a good post, thanks
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libcucks saying it's a good idea will change their opinions next time they get stopped for driving a bit too fast or when the cops find a tiny bit of weed on them. before cameras, cops would often just give you a warning but with cameras they would be forced to go by the books. imagine all the little things too, like jaywalking.

lefties watch some nigger crackhead gets gunned down after pulling a piece on the police and think "this would not have happened if the police had cameras!"
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>>128387999
>>128388063
checked and kekd
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>>128387521
Greatest thing ever for civil society
Before
>did you push the cop
>no sir
>here are my 10 gang friends who confirm
>100,000s of the states money later, acquitted!
Now
>lets watch this video to see.
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>>128388476
>should a cop be able to turn them on and off? Cops need privacy on the job for a myriad of reasons.
honestly the reason o support bodycams is for the police so they can be proven that hat they did was the best thing they could do so I'd say yes. However that still brings the point about the data which I am unsure of.
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>>128388293
>soon it will be impossible to get away with anything.
YAY! I love being goyim!
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>>128387521
I'd like to see all cops wear body cams and video streamed live to google where the can blur out the faces. You should be able to get a copy of any video with you in it.
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>>128388476
>Nothing stops a person from making a top 10 hottest rape victims or loneliest domestic violence video and posting it on luveleak or your tube
I'm pretty sure a lot stops that from Happening.
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>>128388055
HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH
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>>128387848
manipulation and censorship could be problematic.

>>128388476
I fully agree
but I do believe them to have a crime deterring effect which might resolve more situations peacefully, pic related
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>>128388574
I don't think so. Cops have to maintain a good relationship with their communities... being a hardliner about trivial shit isn't going to help that.
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>>128387999

Would be a waste of tax payers money. Improve the dispute system and legislate more laws on what police can and can't do.
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>>128388590
>>128388476

>>128388838
what this guy said

>talking to confidential informants
street cops dont do that

>talking to rape victims
again done in privacy of station/recorded at station and not public

>using the restroom
>breaks
hope you're trolling at this point

>That's a lot of data.
And there's a lot of storage. Point being?

>4. Freedom of information
utterly wrong about everything

just because you took some time to type out this bullshit doesn't make it any more valid

there's no downsides to bodycams

>>128388933
this is a problem with or without bodycams

>>128389036
private police so you get the best service
ez
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>>128388281
so you need a bipartisan committee to review it, who currently does this? Is it the police force self regulating?
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>>128388476
I think a partnership with Google could deal with indexing and storing footage. They already have the platform for it.

There should be some controls on who can access video. Google photo's already matches faces for you.

There are plenty of manufacturers who can make good cams. Out of all the wasteful spending out there, I am ok with this.

Cops shouldn't be allowed to turn them off. If the system is automated and access is audited then there is enough expectation of privacy.
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>>128387521
Good for exonerating cops when nigs chimp out, but sometimes cops need to cut corners for justice.
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>>128388574
i think it only would be reviewed if there was an incident
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>>128389402
Oh dear you sweet sweet summerchild
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>>128387521
Great idea, first person view of niggers being shot
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>>128389747
there are no cops where I live, summer all day ery day
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Think they're a waste of money, but they seem to be proving that the chimps usually deserve to get shot
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>>128387521
I'm not totally informed on their price, but if we can make it cheap enough, I would be thrilled to have HD videos of people getting shot
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>>128389997
This is why it's necessary, I usually disprove of the ever increasing police presence throughout the country, but I've realised it's a necessary evil considering how one of the smallest percentages of the population is responsible for most of the crime in this country, and they usually get off Scott free unless they got plugged in the incident
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>>128387521
I read that sometimes cameras can leave out important contextual information that explains why an officer did what he did. Having multi-way cameras could help with that.
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>>128389382
>And there's a lot of storage. Point being?
This is what I was primarily surprised by. Its a LOT of information and for proper storage it would cost a lot more of money plus the cost of a camera and shell itself (while not huge individually its still a cost. I'm not saying they shouldn't be implemented, just something that I hadn't thought about
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Copfag here.
You idiots don't know what you're asking for. With a body cam you put me in a position where I can no longer give anyone a break. Where my decisions are mandated by my supervisors, protip most are shit.

No more getting off with a stern "stop fucking doing that"
People are going to go to jail and be charged where before they would have gotten a slap on the wrist because my supervisors are shit and I don't feel like getting Bitched at.
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>>128387521
Perfect idea. Nigs cant cry police brutality and cops are held accountable. Win win
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>>128390262
But the best side product of this is the advancement of storage technology
50TB SSD for $100 when???
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>>128387521
It's great!
Now I have more videos of people getting shot to watch!
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>>128390422
Oh fuck off tell your Dirty Harry's, and every fucking department and guy in it knows who they are, to quit the bullshit and this crap wouldn't be necessary
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>>128390422
>Copfag
Union Card or GTFO
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>>128387521
good idea. stops crooked cops from doing power hungry shit on people...stops dindunuffins from using that excuse when they do something.
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>>128390422
>People are going to go to jail and be charged where before they would have gotten a slap on the wrist because my supervisors are shit and I don't feel like getting Bitched at.
this is a good thing lol, this is why i would support bodycams
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>>128387521
Very bad idea. Only makes the surveillance state worse. Will more often be used to acquit cops than punish them.
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Yes for 2 reasons, holding bad cops accountable and clearing the names of the ones who killed a hostile dindu
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>>128390738
Please explain your position in further detail
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>>128390738
The video is objective truth. If it acquits the cop so be it. The camera doesn't just make the cop act carefully.
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>>128390738
Which is a good thing. Body cams have shown people how much crime nigs commit. Most of those cops deserve acquittal because they're dealing with fucking chimps and sometimes chimps need putting down.
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>>128390618
Don't live in a union state and no one ever believes you're a cop. I've posted badge, tazer, car she other fun toys and anons still say I'm full of shit
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Public police are a bad idea with or without body cams.
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>>128391149
You libertarianfags are hilarious
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>>128389036
You're a waste of to payer money.

Body cams are for both the perpetrator and officers protection.
I've seen cops with full on go pro setups on their vests to capture sound and video in decent quality, because of the bullshit they deal with on a daily basis.
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>>128387521
Well you could say that body cameras give liability but the cops could turn them off anyway
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>>128387521
good idea, cops aren't to be trusted.

Lots of them will lie to get out of trouble or make up shit so they can arrest you.
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>>128388094
They aren't since they're part of an ((((active investigation)))) and are exempt from FOIA requests.
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>>128387521

Great idea.
We would have a lot less footage of cops gunning down scumbags without them.
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>>128387521
BAD IDEA! Police can't find the body cam footage from Seth Rich. Body cam footage only available when Democrats need it available
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>>128390422
im not a nigger so i have no problems with this.
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>>128388838
Not in many localities. You can get dash cam footage from any police car in Portland, they have to give you a copy. I don't see why this won't apply to body cams

>>128389382
You don't understand American law. Street cops do talk to informants. Interviews at the scene of a crime are important for in the moment interview for establishing fear and gathering evidence. Cops get breaks, if they can't turn off their cameras what should they do. Data storage costs money. Freedom of information varies by locality faggot

Kys
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>>128389036
You know what costs more than a camera? Trials.
Say racism and open and shut case turns into a national circus you get to host on the city's dime.
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>>128388933
Any context to this gif? What's the guy smoking doing? Looks like he nicks a wallet or something, did the guy working on the bike not notice him or something?
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>>128387521
We get to see nigs get smoked regularly, so there's that.
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>>128390262
Well consider the following:

Police do reports and when there's nothing to report, the footage can be discarded.
Any serious organization employs data centers who specialize in this.

https://www1.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/POA/pdf/Technology.pdf

It's not clear what codecs/resolution/bitrate cams use, so yeah. Don't worry about that.

>>128390422
lmao you got btfo self-righteous prick

>>128391788
>[screeches in american]
What could they be possibly doing on brakes that the camera needs to be turned off?
No, your opinion is full of shit and proving my point is the fact that there are currently no top 10 hottest rape confessions uploaded on liveleak

if there are find one and post and prove me wrong
otherwise go away burgernigger
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>>128390422
Good. You people always let off the wrong people anyways
>cute women
>punk kids running my property
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>>128387521
Good, unless you want to murder Seth Richards, then they are bad.
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>>128387521
Great Idea
>With first hand footage we can see actions as reasonable or stupid
>Even though footage would show reasonable action to shoot a nigger doing a crime/fast hand movement to pocket, BLM will Chimpout
>BLM Chimpouts on reasonable courses of action will delegitimize BLM
>1 home grown terrorist group down (after awhile)


>>The whole left to go...
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>>128388281
they need to just start firing people if their camera
>went off
when someone died
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>>128390422
I don't believe you're a cop, but have a (You) anyway.

Regardless, discretion is fundamental to police work. It really is. Behavior can be corrected with a stern warning. This is why I'm against bodycams, at least bodycam footage that can be made public.

Maybe I've watched The Untouchables too many times, but a beat cop (modern traffic cop desu) probably has a good sense of when a ticket is warrented. You make publicly available bodycams? Say goodbye to warnings.
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>>128390422
I am more afraid of you breaking the law then I am of me ever breaking the law. I have more faith in the judge's decision from the footage then from a hope a cop is going to be a nice guy.
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didn't realize /pol/ was so liberal. These are all literal liberal talking points.


IF YOURE PRO BODY CAMS YOURE A SNOWFLAKE LIB and you need to gtfo and go back to T_Donald
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>>128387521
They should only activate once the gun is drawn though, we don't really need to see the boring bits, just justice in the form of hot lead into the perp.
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>>128392554
yeah its refreshing
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>>128387521
if an illegitimate government is stealing money from me under threat of violence in order to pay for them, then it is a bad idea
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>>128391432
desu its just going to BTFO niggers in their own web of lies.
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>>128387521
good idea
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>>128387521
Keeps cops honest, gives them less reason to hesitate when shooting a nigger.
Good idea.
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>>128389036
If you think it's a waste then you're obviously retarded
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>>128387521
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>>128392440
If stop and frisk can be removed in the interest of public trust I don't see why good faith discretion can't be advocated. And what would happen if you complained anonymously to Internal Affairs that actions dictated by the chiefs was eroding public trust?
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>>128387521
Step by step yet another thing closer to orwellian nightmare

Soon we will buy those as private citizens. And it's gonna be based on our own demand, to prevent potential rape accusations and as evidence that we were forced to defend ourselves from brown people. This is what happens when you sell your civilization to the jew, surveillance on the streets, on businesses, on houses, on cops, soon on us
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>>128387521
Wear a mask....
Oh man, darn we'll get him next time
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It kinda sucks because a cop went to my neighbors house because he was having a loud party but he also caught me smoking weed in my yard he didn't arrest me or give me a ticket and told me that he was there for the disturbance of peace. But if he was wearing a body cam I would've been arrested because he was forced to do his job. So body cams will just turn police officers into ass holes
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>>128392554
Actually not an argument. You're an enemy to rational discourse and you didn't even post trap porn.
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>>128391917
guy pickpockets the other one repairing, then notices cam and fears consequences, WHATS MISSING IN THE GIF: thief throws wallet on the ground and acts like other guy has lost it, guy thanks thief and thief walks away with a sad expression on his face, funny ass vid actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4va4Me4FFM

FULL VIDEO

sorry for the confusion I was making a point in favor of bodycams
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good but they should be used at the officer's discretion
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>>128387521
Very good
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>>128390422
Justice is suppose to be blind you dumb fuck.

You all just let emotions libshits off the hook because you feel bad for them.
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>>128387521

Great idea. Many studies show cops are more likely to shoot niggers when wearing a bodycam because there is evidence that it was totally deserved.
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>>128387521

good idea because they're objective proof if a shooting was justified or not so niggers cant get uppity when lil traytray gets blown away reaching for his piece
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>>128387521

They're really helpful for prosecutors. It's easy to tell whether or not things went down as stated in the report. Defendants are more likely to plea if they know incriminating body cam footage will get in.

That and we dismiss cases where the footage screams bullshit
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>>128393170
I'm not sure what you're getting at, exactly. I think that stop and frisk is well within the bounds of any proper constabulary. Whether you're in a car or on foot, it takes only a few minutes to catch you for a chat.

What I was getting at is that discretion is important. Profiling is important, I don't care about IA because they're an impotent lot, aren't they? Eroding public trust? They bend over backwards whenever the public eye even looks at them.
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>>128387521
Great idea do you know how many videos of nigguhs getting btfod cops are available now.

Go to police activity on jewtube
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>>128393280
Legalize it degenerate.
>>128393172
Police can subpoena date from your phone company to track your whereabouts at all times. The NSA admits to having data on millions of Americans. The FBI foil terrorist plots by endeavoring lonely individuals to buy their guns and cement a conviction. Every year our government is exposed committing acts that were in the realm of lunatic conspiracy before. To think we're headed towards Orwell tier levels of government is way way late.
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>>128388574
This is bullshit. I know cops who have bodycams and it doesn't affect officer discretion for traffic tickets.
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>>128393490
Okay, yeah that makes it clear. But damn I can't believe he didn't even notice him in the first place. Is it staged?
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How about removing all surveillance and bringing back public space and humane living instead of turning people into Stasi drones?
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>>128391302
I'm not a libertarian, but I still think police (other than investigators) are a bad idea, for a number of reasons. Better to rely on self-defence.
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>>128387999

Digits don't lie
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>>128394100
You seem to be agreeing completely with me but for clarification I'm saying that although stop and frisk was proven effective in NYC it was done away with because of public disapproval. If body cameras lead cops to be harsher on minor infractions I don't see why the city couldn't also be endeavored to change that policy and allow officers the freedom of discretion in the interest of maintaining public trust.
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>>128394474
You can be damn sure groups like the ACLU and other "watchdogs" will start demanding footage real quick. Bodycams are brand new, and these groups are chomping at the bit for "evidence" that minorities are disproportionally targeted for tickets.
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>>128388476
Not sure where you get your info but body cams DO NOT record the entire shift. They are technically constantly running, but the video is not recording until the cop turns it on. At that point it also takes the recording of the last 30 seconds before the button was pushed.

Notice if you ever watch a cop's body camera you will always see everything normal, then you see a situation/call unfold, and then you'll see and hear as the cop turns on his camera.
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>>128394622
Will black people be there?
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>>128393172
I'd rather the cops have body cameras than cameras be on street corners, tbqh.
By the time a cop shows up, it is assumed someone is doing something that is wrong/dangerous/illegal. You can't say that for stret cameras.
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>>128387999
those are all good points, but my fear is that it'll prevent cops from killing niggers that ought to be killed
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>>128394763
Okay, I just wasn't clear there on the public disapproval area. I don't agree with the "public," but I don't live there anymore so I can't really weigh in, honestly.
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>>128394918
>but the video is not recording until the cop turns it on.
This is a major problem, isn't it? What happens if it doesn't turn on? Hell, he just doesn't turn it on in the first place? All of the sudden we start (and already are) dealing with bodycams that aren't recording.
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>>128390422
Plenty of cops have lurked and even posted in this thread but you were the only one who felt the need to tell everyone about it. Don't be an attention whore.
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>>128387521
>We need them. How else will we make sure our police officers are not being Islamophobic when dealing with a terrorist attack.
t. UK
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>Bodycams are on cops
>Districts that have dominion over cops can obfuscate footage or claim it got 'destroyed'

as long as the bodycam literally uploads real time in a public archive so no abuse is had

i.e. seth rich https://twitter.com/ScottTaylorTV/status/870403697796419584
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>>128392288
but the guy whos responsible for doing that died when he stole a police officers gun and shot himself 4 times in the back. Too bad the cop forgot to charge his camera
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I have a few cop friends in a large metropolis with an undermanned police force. That's good because the cops don't have time to fuck with productive people too much- they are usually too busy responding to 911 calls on the "disadvantaged" side of town. A lot of my friends have "got out of dui" stories and you are equally likely to get a warning as a ticket (if you don't have a criminal record and aren't a dick). The cops here want QUIET, not arrests. I myself have been pulled over before with a suspended licence due to unpaid tickets and drove away after a stern lecture. My cops friends say all that is over with the body cams. They'll have to arrest everyone for everything due to the audits on the cams. They will get in trouble for letting people go for stupid shit. So, take it for what it's worth.
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>>128388476
Considering the storage issue, you have to look at the cost of the equipment levied against the resources they would save.

This is some rough figuring but here goes: Oakland PD has a force of 731 officers for a population of 413,775 (mostly violent nogs).
Oakland is the 3rd most violent American city.
Due to several high profile scandals the police in Oakland risk complete federal takeover and are required to provide and equip every officer with a bodycam.

An article on the Atlantic claims the Oakland PD accumulated 190TB of footage over the course of 5 years. I don't know much about big data architecture but I know a 1TB HDD is like $50 at best buy, and if you bought 190 external HDD you're talking $10k for police department with a very high demand for quality policing. Which leads me to the savings.

From Wiki:
>Oakland has paid a total of $57 million during the 2001–2011 timeframe to alleged victims of police abuse—the largest sum of any city in California

I don't think I need to tell you that for Oakland, bodycams are mana from heaven to the city's coffers and will undoubtedly save the department millions in court costs and embarrassing scandals.

I could conceivably see the costs of the cameras being too high in say: a rancher town in west Texas but if there's even a risk of mistrial I'm firm in my belief that the benefits would outweigh any cost.
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Good idea shame (((companies))) are gonna make bank off of data backup and storage
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>>128395609
Wouldn't the bodycams increase chances of shooting down these thugs as it would be "Here we see Tyrone pull out a stolen handgun and firing 3 rounds at the officer claiming that he was going to kill him and rape his corpse" when dindus start going on about "He dindu nothing, he was reading his bible on the sidewalk and da cop shot him in the head but did a nazi salute and praised Trump before he left"
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>watching nogs get shot in HD


How isn't it a good idea?
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>>128397612
>bodycams are mana from heaven to the city's coffers and will undoubtedly save the department millions in court costs and embarrassing scandals.
This is where you're probably wrong. It won't save on court costs because the footage will only be used in court. It feeds into itself.
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>>128398320
no i mean just shooting one for lulz
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>>128394533
>Is it staged?
could be, i choose to believe tho
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>>128387521
how many hours of bathroom breaks do they have to edit out. otherwise they can turn it on and off at will? that isnt right
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>>128387521
Awesome idea.
The popo will think twice before doing something but as this thread stated, they are gonna go with "corrupted data" all the time.
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>>128394312
It's amazing to think from perspective about those things, first time they tapped a phone of an italian gangster in your country he was able to defend himself in front of the court not because the tap was illegal but because the lawyer proved that it's unethical for state to listen to private conversations of an citizen.

First it was 'we need to wiretap criminals to fight crime', then it was 'we need to do more immoral things to prevent terrorism for your safety', now we are here all squashed in one global databank. Only thing that remains is an actual physical non-stop surveillance
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>>128400173
>Only thing that remains is an actual physical non-stop surveillance
You don't have it in Poland? I'm pretty sure everyone has a smartphone, and CCTV is everywhere, including inside of buildings.
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>>128394763
>allow officers the freedom of discretion in the interest of maintaining public trust.
Or they could continue getting $300~ per bullshit moving violation?
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>>128400335
Well, as I said, we all are in one global databank. Unlike in the US the laws here allow the lowest rank policeman to view my full phone calls and internet browsing history without any clearance from above. There isn't even an illusion of lawfullness
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>>128398855
There wont be a trial because bullshit wont pass the pretrial disclosure. The NAACP isn't going to represent you when there's HD evidence to contest, you're getting a state appointee and taking a plea bargain like 97% of defendants do. Because trials are ludicrously expensive, and bodycam footage is guaranteed to result in the prevention of trials, the benefits outweigh the costs and provide a PD with bullshit insurance.

Take Baltimore for example: in December 2014 the Mayor of Baltimore vetoed a motion to expand the bodycam program for the police saying the estimated cost: $2.4 million, was too high. April 2015 Freddie Gray is killed by police resulting in a trial that cost the city $7.6 million and between $8-$20 million in damages due to the protests. September 2015 Baltimore issued bodycams to the whole department.
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>>128387521
Based in all the videos we get from russian dash cams i think its a good idea.
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>>128402647
They really see some shit.
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>>128387651
first post best post

anything involving more government accountability is a good thing

anyone who disagrees is a bootlicking american jew
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>>128387999
Outisde of war footage, we finally get to see nigs getting blasted from the bolis POV.

>just like my vidyagames
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>>128402179
>The NAACP isn't going to represent you when there's HD evidence to contest
No, but those hounds will definitely represent you when shit goes south. The cameras break? The shitty bumfuck sheriff's department in south GA doesn't properly back up their footage?

You can be damn sure the ACLU and their ilk will be all over it.
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>>128401010
What a lazy rebuttal.
Revenue policing is illegal most everywhere. If not explicitly, implicitly. Good cops don't like ticket quotas, they can tip IA or file a law suit themselves with whistleblower protection.
Citizens can file lawsuits. Mayors can be sued.
Laws can be passed to convert fines to punitive action on your driving record. Whatever.

Saying it's a source of revenue for the city and therefore incitivizes police to pursue offenders is so obvious. It's also implying it will never change and if you're of that opinion you can't complain when it never does.
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>>128401554
Why do you never post about this in all those retarded "based Poland" threads?
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>>128387521

It's a great idea. With bodycams, we've seen that 9 out of 10 shootings are perfectly justified.

With bodycams, officers can act without the public distorting their actions. They can actually show "See, this is how it went down."
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>>128387521
Shoulder launched muslim seeking missile might be better
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>>128387848
I think the second point is the most important here, as others have said cops are just turning them off. The ones that did nothing wrong shouldn't have to fear.
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>>128405264
I tried, but Americans derive their knowledge of Central, Eastern Europe and Balkans from Hollywood movies, media and youtube videos. They have no fucking clue about the reality of post communists states, how the societies function and how the power structure works. Trying to explain this in every thread is futile, Sisyphean labour.
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>>128403852
Because a camera with crucial evidence could break the city might have to pay millions in settlements in court. So I probably shouldn't get a driver's license or pay car insurance because I'll probably never get pulled over?

This is a lifeboat "what if" kind of question. And I don't mean to play armchair psychologist but asking these kinds of technically plausible questions could be indicative of a self-destructive and pessimistic personality trait. Plus these what if scenarios have infinite rebuttals and redundancies.
It's like I said I own a gun to protect my family from burglars and you say "what if they just barricade the doors and burn the house down?".
And it's an infinite cycle that results in no actual action being taken.
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>putting cuckcams on cops won't change anything.
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>Stops cops from doing shady shit
>Stops criminals from claiming they din du nuffin


Everyone wins

Thougt it was hilarious after every dindu shooting, the family would hail and holla that cops aren't accountable and their son was innocent

but then watching cop cams on youtube, there is always the angry black women yelling she didn't consent to being filmed so the cops have to let her go, its great comfy watching
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