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>>128384086
Pol wants to save white people but can't even tidy their rooms.

Because of the Civil War.

Look at Hawaii. Democrat as fuck and all those Hawaiians are on welfare.

>>128384924
> because of a war fought 180 eighty years ago

>>128384086
They weren't until the 1860s. Turns out losing a war and the backbone of your economy at the same time is bad for overall economy growth.

most states are red, majority of everywhere on the planet aren't exactly well off, the only logical conclusion we can draw from the fact that only a handful of states are richer than others, in a sea of red states, is that most poor states are red
but you already knew that, and I'm the only retard here for posting in a slide thread

>>128385289
I wish my parents were in easy driving distance so I could get you a Washington Post from the 70s showing wealth distribution.
>Former Union states, including slave owning states at the time of the Civil War, are universally wealthy
>Former Confederate State are universally relatively poor

>I-I-It wasn't the Civil War! A society should be able to recover quickly from the total destruction of its major cities and the dismantling of its economy without help!
Yankees actually believe this.

Those states would be poor regardless of who they vote for.
They just want to be able to carry on doing what they're doing and don't want some city folk who know nothing about their lives telling them what they can and can't do.

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IF DEMOCRATIC CRIME POLICIES ARE SO GREAT FOR AMERICA, WHY ARE MOST BLUE STATES CRIME RIDDEN

>>128384086
Taxes taken to give to free loader blue States

reminder muslims declared war on west over 20 years ago when osama bin laden issued his fatwah

that alone should be reason enough to ban all muslims from entering united states

If chemotherapy is so good for you, why does everyone on it have cancer?

>>128384086
If you are referring to the southern states, aren't those filled with niggers?
That contributes a lot for their underdevelopment.

You can apply the same reasoning for cities like Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, Chicago..

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>>128386896
This board truly has been infested with redditfags. Why are none of you saying the real answer? Oh that's right, it's because >muh civic nationalism. It's because the red states are full of niggers.

If Democrat economic policies are so great for minorities, why are most blacks dirt poor?

>>128384086
Because they contain most of the country's black people

>>128387123
>what are the western states for 200 please

It's the Civil War's fault that the South is poor

Oh also it's black people's faults for not being wealthy despite hundreds of years of slavery

>>128384086
blacks and mexicans.

reminder that you cant argue that republicans are poor yet at the same time the cause of climate change.

>>128387216
What about em?

>>128384086
>vote democrat
>become poor
>vote republican
Interesting observation. Almost like democrats are very good at making people poor.

>>128384086
Full of blacks

>>128387187

/thread

pack it up gents

>>128384086
Talking to a liberal the other day.
HIM: California so rich?
ME: Have you walked in the canyon lately? There are shanty towns of illegal aliens.
HIM: That doesn't count.

If you factored in the illegal aliens is CA really rich?

>>128387123
I bet you think the civil war was only about slavery too. So simple minded.

If Democrats are so great then how come they never make the poor Republicans rich?

>>128387362
Red states between the Mississippi and the Cascades have few niggers, Texas excepted

>>128387426
Yes, they still have a shitton of money regardless of how they homeless live.

>>128384924
Are you saying the reason blacks are poor is due to slavery, which ended with the civil war?

>>128387528
No shit. What's your point?

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>>128384086

I am a strong believer that racial demographics are the main driver of things like crime and economics, and actual policies fall 2nd. I think this is evident that socialist places like scandanavia do not collapse because they're filled with high IQ hard working white people, whereas all socialist countries that are filled with low IQ lazy people collapse (venezuela, USSR, etc... yea slavs might not be low IQ but they are lazy). White people can make socialism or capitalism work well. The south, however, has an extremely high proportion of black people (pic related), and even their white people are often from french backgrounds, as opposed to english/german found in the more affluent parts of the country. It's not surprising, based on this racial hypothesis, that the south would be less industrious

>TL:DR lots of blacks and less-industrious whites inhabit the south

>>128387586
You just claimed that red states are full of niggers and that's why they're dirt poor, except that dirt poor western states are not full of niggers

>>128387520
And I bet you browse reddit.

>>128387642
What western states are dirt poor?

>>128384086
because republican economic policies are based on fantasy

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>>128384086
Southern culture is economically less productive.

>>128384086
If poor people are always clipping coupons why are they still poor

Red States live within their means. Blue states have shiny stuff built on credit that their grandkids will have to pay for.

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>>128384086
Your standards are too high we can't all live like kings for ever. The way we live has to change.

>>128384086
You mean Southern Republican states,and gee I wonder what those are full of.

>>128384086
They can work the land, are self sufficient and know how to fix things.

Are they poor?

>>128387642
8 of the 10 poorest states are in the south - ie, the area with the highest black populations.

>>128387642
Fuck off shill. The poor red states are in the south. The red states in the west do just fine, they don't have niggers.

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>Unless they are quality, well thought out, well written posts...
>expect a high level of discourse befitting of the board.

read sticky, sage

does OP realize that there is massive net migration into red states like Texas, Florida, South Carolina,Utah, Dakotas, Arizona and a massive net migration out of blue states like Illinios, NY, Connecticut, New Jersey and PR? Yes borrow, spend and tax may work in the short term but is destructive in the long term. The red states are the only ones to think 5 minutes ahead of themselves and keep their states on a stable long term path.

>>128387642
Such as?

States like Idaho and Montana have low wages but also incredibly low prices, and obviously have lower GDP due to their rural wilderness and low population.

New Mexico is blue btw

>>128384086
Democrat leadership is great if you like shitholes like Detroit, Seattle, Baltimore St. Louis.

Nothing horrifies democrats as much as a poor person who became middle class.

>>128388040
This is true, just Looked it up. New Mexico is the only one I see that isn't the south.

>>128384086
Becauae the corruption is much lower than in blue states where back door deals and stealing from people make for some really rich and super poor people.

What's the national debt again? How's California's economy again? I barely comprehend the significance of the question. Dem-led economies (Detroit, Baltimore, et al) have nothing to boast about. OP is a faggot.

>>128384086
Are you asking why the people are poor or why the state itself is poor? The people arent poor. The state is poor because the state lets its people keep their money instead of taking all of it.

>>128384086
Because they want to get OUT of poverty, not stay there.

KYS and saged.

>>128384086
niggers

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>>128384086

Because before Trump, we hadn't had a real democratic/republican in decades; just inhuman deep-state child-fuckers.

Don't worry, you vile pathetic shill; America WILL be great again, despite your masters. Stay tuned.

How come there is so much income inequality in blue states? Maybe because blue states subsidize poverty? it is impossible to start a business states becaue of red tape?

Largest middle classes in the US: Utah, Nebraska, Iowa, Okalahoma, Idaho

Smallest middle classes in the US: Connecticut, Massachusetts, NY, DC, NJ, Hawaii

Red extends beyond the South - also applies to the Great Plains states, Ohio, Indiana and the rural West (Utah is a unique case). Oregon and parts of California are also a part of this.

As for any one line answers that this board seems inclined to try to parrot as fact - most Red states have taken the party line of increasingly meager tax policies and loose controls over economic exploitation. Appeals to traditional values/machismo with their base, takes money from the monied interests in the state. Whether that be agribusiness, defense, fracking or whatever.

And part of it is party machinery. Republicans are better organized than the Democrats at the local level. That's a fact. Moreover, they tow the line better than Democrats do, because their communication lines are centralized. You can say what you want about the DNC being a centralizing force, but the RNC kicks the shit out of anyone who isn't a major outlier. That's why all of the Red candidates outside of Trump were almost completely the same, policy-wise.

This machinery's been in place since the 60's, and was aping similar mechanisms that were around in the 30's-40's political machines, the decades before that, and the decades before that. It matters here, because that is the culture that controls politics in Red states. They're organized, even if their constituency is poor and continuously lied to about policy.

>>128384086
their not poor. the poorest state in the USA has a higher standard of living the the average of any country other than the USA. Capitalism drives up the standard of living tremendously.

>>128384086
Because that's where all the niggers are, and any normal white person who has been around niggers detests the democrats for subsidizing their nigging

>>128389205
You're a real fag. all that shit's wrong and you browse reddit. Nothing matters except average IQ, which niggers bring down.

>>128384086
Isn't it because they have large numbers of niggers, but the fact they're concentrated in cities means the State won't turn blue because of the electoral system?
Why isn't Detroit the thriving metropolis Democrats have been promising for the last 50 years? And that's only a city, never mind a State. Well it is an absolute state, but...

>>128385289
ever hear of Reconstruction?
After the War, the Union fucked over the Confederates hard. Its affect is still felt in the south to this day

>>128389653

I suppose that makes mostly white states like Iowa and Montana havens for American geniuses and drivers of economic growth...?

Oh wait. Nah. Your argument's full of more holes than a sinking boat loaded with Swiss cheese. Try again when you have a more coherent argument.

>>128389823
Redit nigger detected. Your argument is literally the same excuse libtards use to excuse the nigging of niggers. The real reason is niggers. Go back to redit. I sure do love this topic as it's a great way to spot the cancer killing pol.

>>128389653
average IQ in Connecticut is one of the highest in the world. Yet theyre on the brink of bankruptcy, peopel are fleeing CT for red states.

>>128387623
This, you need actual working people who do things in the benefit of all people (whites), the rest fall apart cause they're fucking retarded

>>128390002
Nice reddit-tier response. If that were on reddit you'd get 100 upboats for that correct opinion and horribly unfunny quip. Too bad we're not on reddit. Since you love the idea of playing at intellectual let me ask you this: under what circumstances are higher IQ people not more productive than lesser IQ people when looking at the aggregate?

>>128390017
sure is summer here. Never touched Reddit in my life. Niggers are just a symptom of the Civil War. The real problem is the group that manipulates them.

>>128390064
Are the high IQ staying and working there and paying taxes?

>>128390311
what are you even talking about. niggers are a symptom of importing niggers for slavery. the group that manipulates them? you talk like niggers are actually humans. Pol has been anti nigger since it was new. You're either lying or a complete retard.

>>128384086
welfare state

>>128390536
Summerfags can't even recognize the Jewish global banking conspiracy for what it is.

>>128390628
Neither can they stay on topic. Do you think niggers are humans or not? You think they could be regular citizens if not for jews?

>>128390194

You seem upset friend. Relax.

The aggregate you're talking about really *isn't* about IQ - it's about economic activity and availability of resources. Fact of the matter is even an idiot can be a carpenter or a machinist. Even an idiot can be a clerk and learn how to push buttons or type something out on a form. What matters is how much economic activity is happening in any given area - sorta like how an egg gets fertilized. Doesn't matter if the sperm are all retarded. If enough of them are doing work, one will eventually get in. By the same logic, if enough idiots are working, chances are the state/county/country will do better in the long run. Places with built up infrastructure and a lack of economic shocks (i.e. the Civil War, the resettlement of the West) tend to succeed in that respect.

>>128390378
Dude you're so fucking dense. Can't you step back and think burning our largest city, prosperous state, and railroad hub to the ground had maybe a little to do with it.
The High black pop is also a no brainer.

>>128384086
Because niggers are lazy.

>>128384086
most /pol/ users are from the red states and red states have the lowest IQ on average..

>>128390889
Ya it had something to do with it. But let's not let that distract us from the real reason and give something for the retarded civic nationalists to latch onto. The primary reason is genetic determinism.

>>128384086

They aren't.

The top ten wealthiest states feature 5 Red States

The top ten poorest states feature 5 Blue States

Would seem they are evenly split.

>>128391093
tahts because of niggers

>>128390854
Stopped reading after the first sentence. Either answer the question or stop talking.

>>128384086

Everywhere used to be a "red" state.

Now the coastal cities are blue because they are filled with beaners.

Has nothing to do with economics

>>128391151
Almost like the entire thing it's a well designed scam.

>>128384086
Hey shill! Die!

>>128387123
only the ones to the right of texas you dummy

>>128391174
Yup you are a retard from the states...

>>128386120
Isn't this the same argument that niggers use for why they're still poor?

>>128391317
whats your point

>>128387380
that were brought there by the people in the south


even WITH slavery the south was still poor as fuck. You inbred retards depended on a really fucking inefficient system

>>128384924
Hawaiians are dumber than nignogs and more racist than ANYONE

Because almost all the spics and a majority of niggers are in the red States. Jews and Asians are the only minorities who can actually become rich and not just blow every penny they make on car rims and weed.

>>128391151

Furthermore;

Of the five poorest cities in the U.S., the majority of them are Democratic.

>>128391357
anyone who uses elipses in the place of real arguments is a mega faggot.... niggers have 85 average IQ so obviously they bring down the average... this is basic mathematics... but I guess even that's beyond a retard like you....

Coastal and urban centers are naturally leftists

But the business sectors thrive with right wing economic policies.

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>>128384086
Potatoes

>>128384086
>Own land
>Own house on that land with quadruple square footage of bluestate apartments or suburban cookiecutter
>Feed large family
>Have modern luxuries
>Have modern functionality

>But cost of living is lower so your amenities are measured in fewer dollars
>AHAHAHAHA REPUBLICUNTS BTFO

>>128391422
you know it was the jews who imported and bought all the slaves at the slave market. furthermore your second statement is wrong. virginia was extremely wealthy at the time

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>>128391212

You should be more willing to read, friend.

Here's a one sentence answer to your question, then: there is no discernible difference, because IQ doesn't actually contribute the economic growth.

Though I think I can hear your furious typing to the contrary from here. Oh my.

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>>128391403
Tennessee is only 16% black

how are you going to blame an entire states poverty on 16% of the population, and part of the percent probably works.

If you go by pure number, yes, red states are "poorer." If you go by buying power and quality of life, blue states are poorer, with a few exceptions like West Virginia.

>>128391235
Almost like they can both work

>>128384086
red states, especially southern states, have the highest increase of income and knowledge, among other things, in the nation

>>128391586
lol retard. This is why I say you're just playing at intellectualism. You haven't even accepted one of the most basic redpills. Educate yourself.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2015/09/16/is-iq-a-predictor-of-success/#301f39483604

And I am willing to read, but only from someone who appears to have a modicum of a chance of knowing anything that I don't.

>>128391811
Checked. Let's archive that

>https://forbes com/sites/quora/2015/09/16/is-iq-a-predictor-of-success/#301f39483604
https://archive.is/N3NHM

>>128391564
>you know it was the jews who imported and bought all the slaves at the slave market

why are white people manipulated so easily? You do realize that when you cry BUT THE JEWS you only make whites look like gullible easily manipulated retards right?

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>>128384086
What did he mean by this?

>>128391594
>only 16%

Hey man it's okay, your arm is only 16% covered in gangrene.

>>128390826
No, but they'd make great work equipment if not for the jew.

>>128391586
>IQ doesn't contribute to econamic growth

lack of IQ certainly contributes to economic drain. Low IQ has a strong correlation with poverty, which has a strong correlation with crime. Put two and two together please.

>>128391481
Bingo. Slavery was the biggest mistake this country ever made

>>128391874
uh ok. So are you saying you disagree and you have proof or.... are you just assuming that it's wrong?

>>128391920
okay I'll get it amputated and still function with the other 90% of my body I have left

once again, 16% of a states population should not result in the entire state being poor.

>>128391541
Pretty much this.
I remember watching MTV Cribs when it was still a thing.
They'd show off a fucking mansion in Georgia and I'd be like "that dude must be loaded" then I'd look up the real estate prices and realize it costs the same as a condo in CA.

Also slave owners should have been compensated when the federal government took their property. It falls under eminent domain. Probably would have been considered a regulatory taking or inverse condemnation, but either way the fifth amendment says they should have been compensated.

>>128391938
Yeah, having a sizable population of people whose best career prospects are work equipment isn't a problem at all.

>>128384086
>implying red states are poor
>implying poor red states are poor due to Republican policies
>implying blue states are rich due to Democratic policies

sort yourself out, anon

>>128392036
no I'm saying its true but whites did not have the foresight, intuition, reasoning, or any other thought process to avoid being manipulated. At some point you have to wonder why the tricks keep working. Evolution perhaps? That in the same way the smarter whites took advantage of blacks, the smarter jews are taking advantage of whites?

>>128392077
What evidence are you going off of that makes you say that "the entire state is poor".

>>128392200
What does jews importing niggers have to do with whites being manipulated again?

>>128391481
ranked by percent? some of those counties definitely aren't 85 percent black. Not sure how this map is relaying information.

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>>128384086
Poorer states used to be blue actually. But over the years the poorer states learned that they couldn't afford blue policies and went red out of survival. Richer states swung blue because they could afford the loss for the time being.

Currently, media also comes out of richer states which is why the liberal feedback loop is so strong there. Media tends to favor its own states, too; so the advantage of better exposure brings more value to their own markets.

>>128384086
Because those states use to have factories that made shit before we sent those jobs to the Chinese.

>>128392235
Tennessee is more poor than florida yet florida has even more blacks than Tennessee. What's going on there?

>>128392430
Retired jews.

>>128391811

Refer to my picture. Be a bit more respectful.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/312/5782/1900

IQ isn't genetic. This board seems to have difficulty grasping that, but it's due to social influences, childrearing and economic opportunity.

As far as redpilling goes - is that what you tell yourself when you throw your opinions around? That you know the truth? That you understand whatever people don't? I think that's a poor way to argue, friend. No wonder you're so angry.

Take a moment, take a deep breath. Approach it scientifically. Ask more questions than you're used to.

>>128392287
Whites should have rejected a system that would leave them with a population of uneducated savages. Instead they took them in and gave them the vote. They were conned hard.

>>128392488
Are you telling me jews bring wealth to areas? They sound pretty good to me then.

>>128392430
You're a real simpleton if you think niggers is literally the only factor in determining a society's wealth. You're also a simpleton if you think that a sizable population of niggers isn't significantly detrimental to the wealth of any society.

Also, do you have a citation for that fact?

>>128384086
In answer to your question. Liberals.

>>128384086

They are full of niggers.

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>>128391594
They drag the whole thing down. look at the histograms.

More fall below poverty level.

>>128392584
>Are you telling me jews bring wealth to areas?
Yes. Wealthy jews from NYC retire to Florida and bring their wealth with them.

>>128387123
West Virginia is pretty much entirely white...

>>128392490
LMAO

I'm not reading your link friendo. I didn't even posit that IQ was genetic, so you're strawmanning me. Have ever heard of that? Has the little intellectual ever heard of logical fallacies? Let's stay on topic please. I don't give a shit about respecting retards. If you want respect go to back to redit.

Since you're so dim allow me to spell it out for you. The topic is: higher IQ yields higher wealth. NOT "IQ is genetic". Feel free to let loose any counter arguments taht you think apply to that statement and I'll let you know if they're sound or not.

>>128392490

>IQ isn't genetic.

Yes it is. Stop denying science.

>but it's due to social influences, childrearing and economic opportunity

Empirically incorrect. They have an influence on I.Q., but ultimately do not overly undermine or increase it.

Multiple studies have been done on this. I'm not sure where you're getting your pseudo-science from, but it's been debunked.

>Approach it scientifically.

It has been approached scientifically. I.Q. is majority inherited. Positive environmental factors do not raise I.Q., but negative environmental factors CAN (but not always) lessen I.Q.

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>>128392652
>when a state has a lot of blacks and is doing poorly
>SEE ITS THE NIGGERS

>when a state has a lot of niggers and is doing better
>THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS AT PLAY HERE

really?

>>128392501
Ok. You're right they should have known about DNA and stuff in the antebellum south. I just wanted you to know that the jews did all the enslaving.

>>128384086
>texas
>dirt poor.
kek.

>>128392835
>tfw white and living in williamson county
feelsgoodman

>>128387528
Spics

>>128384086
>WHAT ARE MEXICANS
also this isn't a republican board you fucking cuck. Neocons are pro illegal immigration because cheap labor. Most if not all republicunt politions are neocons.

>>128393026
not about DNA, how about the fact they came from an incredibly different and tribalistic culture?

>>128392945
Uh yeah? I don't see any problem with that. Niggers are the primary reason, and your quote "other factors" are the tertiary reasons. Yep all seems good to me. Got anything else besides a mild ad hoc fallacy?

>>128384086
I'd rather live in the south than california
just fucking nuke this shithole

>>128393117
Yeah I think the whites at the time were aware of that. idk what you're trying to get me to say. I know ashkenazim have higher IQ. Is that what you wanted me to know? You could have just pointed it out instead of being all bashful about it ya lil bugger 8^).

Red states get all the welfare.
Hmm. Really makes me think. I guess welfare doesn't work!

>>128392430
geography and population
florida is a large trade hub, has a large tourism industry due to its beaches, and a large aerospace sector

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Now on to some qualitative answers.

Maximum Black unemployment in certain areas is at 100%
Its fucking incomprehensible.

>>128392945

There are no states doing well that have a lot of niggers.

Again, this is simply a lie. And quite easy to demonstrate.

Let's look at the five wealthiest states.

1. California - 6% black.

2. Texas - 11%

3. New York - 15%

4. Florida - 15%

5. Illinois - 15%

>>128393535
Most white unemployment hangs around 8-10% maxing out at 16%

While most black unemployment is around 18%
but can max out at 100% in areas.

More niggers per capita.
/thread

>>128384086
>implying
You from California or something, faggot? Let's see those state gold reserves. OH WAIT.

>>128393679
Don't forget that northern blacks have higher IQ than southern blacks. Southern blacks actually have an IQ of 80 and northern blacks have an IQ of 90.

>>128392888

I'm sorry to hear that I'm not getting through to you.

Here's the argument in full - you started with the assertion that IQ is related to race. Niggers bringing it down. I'm countering that it's not genetic - which was your implication, given we're talking about two different genetic stock. You're advancing the point that genetic stock = IQ, therefore higher IQ must correlate with 'better' genetic stock, and masking that behind 'empirical' evidence. I am advancing the point that it isn't tied to that tightly to genetics (though I did come across as saying it's entirely unconnected; thank you to v
>>128392919
You actually have a fair point. Thank you.

As for whether higher IQ yields higher wealth - in the barest sort of a majority, yes, but overall, it isn't a clear delineation of anything more than one advantage.

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>>128386821

>>128394110

>As for whether higher IQ yields higher wealth - in the barest sort of a majority, yes, but overall, it isn't a clear delineation of anything more than one advantage.

It's strange that the other guy was arguing about whether I.Q. = Wealth, but not disagreeing with you on whether I.Q. in inheritable.

The latter has been tested and observed.

I'm assuming any study on I.Q. equals wealth would be spurious - Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they controlled for all of the factors, but my guess would be "unlikely".

Increased I.Q. is better for everything in all regards anyway, so that would certainly be a contributing factor to poverty, especially if you live in segregated communities that are majority low I.Q.

The only way to raise I.Q. is via eugenics.

I mean, Muh Nazis and all that, but the sooner people face reality and deal with the issue the better off everyone will be.

>>128394110
You're right in the sense that it is an implication, but the implication is irrelevant to the primary point and serves no use other than to distract from what looks like an argument that you know you can't win.

And please do tell what "the barest sort of a majority" even means. To me it sounds like a way of begrudgingly accepting that I am correct but without simply stating so in a direct way. Yes, I am correct. And the implication of that correctness is that >>128390002
this post of yours is wrong. As the people with low IQ increase (niggers), the economic prosperity of any society will go down. That's why all of this >>128389205 horseshit is the worst kind of pseudo-intellectual sophistry verbose wordy horseshit that obfuscates the real and simple cause.

>>128391422
>that were brought there by the people in the south

Who weren't Republicans.

>>128394422

Admittedly, my masters was in politics and history, not genetics. I'm rusty, plain and simple.

I still believe that positive environmental influences help to raise IQ, though I don't have the wakefulness to go looking for the sources. So, sadly, I can't keep the debate up.

I don't disagree with you that the most logical solution to raising IQ would be eugenics - I just don't know how exactly you go about it, when IQ itself was written up and defined using a military entrance exam test.

>>128394422
I'm "the other guy". I'm not disagreeing because intellectual pursuit is not attained by constantly shifting from topic to topic. That's the strategy of a sophist. I do, in fact, disagree, but let's not stray from the original topic.

>>128394817
>Politics and history degree
Well that explains why you sound like such a pretentious pseudo-intellectual.

READ MY LIPS..... THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT WELFARE PROGRAMS FOR LARGER URBAN AREAS RAN BY THE LEFT

>>128384431
SORT

>>128394482

>you know you can't win
>real and simple cause

I sense a lot of anger in you, Skywalker.

No solution is as easy as you want it to be. I say 'barest sort of majority' because other factors influence outcomes. The world is not black and white. You want it to be. It's more complicated than that, and I'd wish you'd see that instead of being so quick to lash out. You can claim victory over me, but I'm not mad about it. I'm actually grateful.

Look - I made mistakes in arguing my points. It's late, the subject's far from what I went to school for, and I'm overall not quite a debator. More a historian and social person. I concede. You've won.

>>128395072
Except that the exact opposite is true. Red areas end up being subsidized by blue areas.

>>128395351
LMAO dude jesus christ

Ya there's other factors but ignoring the primary cause of anything is the biggest mistake you can make and essentially makes you an SJW. Yes there are other factors that influence IQ and there are factors besides IQ that influence income. But, once again, a tactic of the sophist is to inflate the importance of minor details when the argument is about the primary cause of a thing. In this case the primary cause is low IQ caused by genetics which are inescapable. Don't strawman me again.

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>>128384086
>2004-era Red State vs Blue State logic
>Compaing predominately White Snow States like Vertont with Black Belt States such as Mississppi (%40 Black)

>Red States receive more federal spending because of Military expenditures

2016: Trump wins Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa Pennsylvania, and almost Minnesota

>>128395303
YSELF

>>128395351
>>128395623
And the passive-aggressive way that you try to make it sound like you've won by "conceding" all the while your post is filled with transparent attacks on me is disgusting and pathetic. But I guess that's just waht you'd expect from some fag who has to point out he has a masters when it's in a worthless field that you attain by impressing your professors with excessive wordiness.

>>128394127
Red states were blue states not that long ago and are still recovering from your retarded economic beliefs (yes Democrats were always more into supporting socialist beliefs even when the south was a Democratic stronghold).

>>128391422
Slavery creates poverty just like welfare does. If you have no incentive to innovate due to free labor or free money, your never become an economic powerhouse.

>red states
>number 1 state that is taking welfare
>Commiefornia at almost 24%
>number 2
>Washington DC at almost 23%
>number 3
>New Yoark state at 18%

But you're wrong...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

>>128394817

>I still believe that positive environmental influences help to raise IQ

It doesn't. It helps "protect" IQ. A poor environment can decrease it. A good environment can't increase it. Though maintaining it obviously, in the long run, would probably contribute to "raising" it.

>How you would go about it

Selective breeding. I mean...Eugenics?

It's not like we don't subtly practice that anyway via mate selection. We just don't speak about it in polite company.

And a lot of us would object to some outside authority directing selection for us.

>>128395832
I'm gone, dude. I tried to be polite about it, but fine. You won. Get a hold of yourself.

>>128395417
That's all changing due to retarded left-wing economics moving along with the Democratic party into the former Red northern states back when the parties switched places. I takes a while for economic change to take hold though (this is why the economy is always magically better under a blue anti-capitalist president: the outgoing red president created the boom, but it takes years for the boom to start and take hold).

>>128395417
the blue areas keep declaring bankruptcy and passing it off to taxpayer cause they shed industry and adopted cuckism

>>128384086
if liberal policies are so great why are major cities full of fucking poor, homeless, and drug abusers?

two can play the bullshit argument game.

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>>128386120
>>128389823
>180 years ago is the reason the south is shit today
>niggers are shit though because they're shit, not because a mere 60 years ago it was completely legal to refuse to hire them because they were black, or simply lower their property values so places they lived became ghettos, or pay them less because of their skin color, or not given them loans

You have to actually produce something tangible like food..... google does not feed you fucking coder assholes

>>128396425
Look at poverty rate by county and you'll get your answer.
>Southern black areas are poorest areas in country
>Southern white areas are some of the richest in the country (due to increased economic freedom)

>>128384086
And the ratio of money to cost of living is higher in red states anyways. Call em dirt poor all you want but even a fucking leaf knows money is just worth more in Republican states.

>>128385289
Niggers Nig because slavery over 180 years ago

Bc farmers don't make a lot of money
Industrial higher paying jobs are in north.

Texas is rich as fuck and requires way less federal assistance than California and New York though....

>>128387123
this

because those filthy rednecks don't work

>>128384086

because they are full of Trump voters.

haven't you seen them?

coastal states are generaly richer, states that industriliazed first are probably richer etc. I would imagine that most of the blue states were already rich before they became blue. Most urbanized places tend to become left wing as population density allows certain jobs to develop etc.

>>128384086
IF DEMOCRAT ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES ARE SO GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, WHY ARE THE MOST POLLUTED CITIES ALL IN CALIFORNIA

They are dirt poor because most of those states have double the number of spics and niggers compared to states in the north.

>>128398416
Also rich states probably attracted illegal immigrants who made the state bluer with their children and when they got ammnesty.

>>128399072
>>128392347
So which is it?

>>128397558
Texas has oil. Look at Kansas. Kansas is following the Republican economic plan to a tee, and they're nearing bankruptcy despite having run out of taxes and services to cut. Other red states aren't much better.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/25/donald-trump-should-close-sell-states-like-kentucky-column/101989780/

>>128384086
>what is the agricultural industry?

>who provides all your food?

>who provides all American steel?

>which people work in industrial factories, at a median income of $40,000 USD annually?

>who drives transport vehicles, at a median income of $50,000+ annually?

Maybe we should take a look at inner city Chicago, a solid blue population center.

>$100,000k/year in California will get you a studio in California or New York, and maybe a Honda Civic
>$100,000/year will get you acres of land, with a huge house and any car you want in "poor red States"

It's all about the value of the dollar, not how many you make

>>128401201
>sure most of the state is rolling pennies for gas broke, but land is cheap!

The more Jews take, the richer their Democrat infested area becomes.

Its literally farming stupid people for money.

>>128401201
This. Outside of Atlanta, you can live like a king on even a little 60k salary in Georgia. He'll, I even had friends in high school who were counted as rich simply because their dad made 100k and owned a ton of acres.

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>>128395749
OUT

>>128384086
They are not, because lots of em are just as corrupt as le dems. Lots of em are not cpitalists at all.

recession in 08 didn't do shit to oklahoma cuz we got dat oil and natural gas

>>128391446
This is what needs to be said. Going by states isnt specific enough for the point they are trying to make. Going by city is a better way to determine wether or not these policies work.

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>>128400005
The other guy.

>>128384086
Do the Democrats do anything for the poor. They want to keep the status quo because they are guaranteed votes. You are protesting because you want import more ethnic Democrat puppets, Trump does not and look how your treats him. Have the inner cities improved after 8 years of Obama?

>>128404623
Oklahoma is so broke, they've gone to a four day school week to save money.

>>128392132
it isn't a problem if the Jews don't interfere and try to give them "human rights" when they're clearly less than human.

>>128384086
Success and wealth attract and concentrate parasites. Growing tech hubs in red states, like Austin and Raleigh-Durham, are becoming more Democrat-infested as second-tier techies flee the apocalyptic real estate market in San Fransisco. Then they replicate the same conditions in their new cities and will have to move again in a decade.