Hey fellow Deutschfags, tell me how is the political climate

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was stupid enough to say that islamophobia is a shit word because phobia is a medical term at a party. got an inquisitional sit in as a result and some people think im in a cult.

Here in burgerland, it depends on class and age.

I'm in the lower middle class, live in a red state, and most of the white people I talk to are pretty based. Two of the biggest complaints people here have are illegal immigration and the tranny agenda being pushed by the elites.

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I don't know anyone

>>128315906

Well, how's the political climate within you?

>>128316033
it feels like my neighbourhood is turning into mogadishu

>>128315342
Most of them are pretty right wing, but i'm living on the country side so most people aren't that left wing anyway

>>128315342
>Hey fellow Deutschfags, tell me how is the political climate in your social circle?
Political climate is fine in based DDR.

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All my Baden-Wuertemberg cousins, aunts, uncles are red-pilled but they won't name the problem and their careers would end if they did

They admit there is more crime, they admit they can't speak out about it without being called Nazis, they just hope the problem 'goes away'

F

>>128315342
>people are getting more and more right leaning, but are afraid to talk about it in public.
18 year old here, thats exactly my experience. People in my german speaking anonymous gaming communities have started making edgy jokes like bringing back the crusades or putting burning qurans as their steam profile pics, etc.
However in real live, at my Gymnasium, excluding the fairly uncommon antifags you sometimes run into, many people have started to avoid political conversations or even plainly refused to state their political leanings when asked, as if half of them were "hiding their powerlevel" /pol/ style.

>>128315342
exactly the same
Every new Terror attack let the people lean a bit more right

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>>128315342
reaching 3rd reich levels

>>128315559
That's awful.

Someone needs to free your people from thoughtpolice

So all it takes is one influential man telling all those right-leaning Germans what to do and hell breaks loose...

>>128317317
shall we ask austria for someone?

Stuck in Berlin studying, all my classmates seem to not have an opinion on politics, I always crack a few Hitler did nothing wrong jokes (Little did they know) I really believe that we can't be the only Germans awake to the shit happening.

>>128317317
Good luck finding said person.

>>128315342
I don't have a great ciricle of friends I would talk about politics with, because most contacts aren't that deep. With whom I do talk about politics I noticed small or medium steps to the right, but I can't say that it's a trend in the hole society. My friends tend to be highly educated, mostly above average intellegence, upper middel and upper class and half of them almost on or on the spectrum.

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this triggers the gercuck

>>128317644
This pic is a inevitability.

>>128317604
That's a good sign, working class is right-leaning already, so no worries there.

>>128317769
>a inevitability
""""Asian"""" detected.

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>picture related is German right-wing hope
Let that sink into. How many Germanic people do you see?

>>128317317
Sadly, the AfD is filled with retards and the NPD is a Verfassungsschutz honeypot anyway.
The only reason the AfD is going to get my vote in September is because they will be in the opposition anyways and its always good having a few people in the Bundestag that dare to voice that "taking in a million economic "refugees" a year is probably not as good of an idea".
The AfD would fuck up badly if they ever got close to acutally governing the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXaq094wI8

>>128317847
>working class is right-leaning
Same in U.K. ,yet people like corbyn still like to pretend he is a champion of the working class despite most of us just wanting brexit and the migrants out.

>>128318170
Der wichser soll die fresse halten, ihm seine Generation hat den ganzen Dreck angerichtet

>Deutsche unter sich sprechen englisch
mich wundert es nicht warum der linke Dreck so leicht Fuß fassen konnte aber spätestens als die Bomben in den Fußgängerzonen platzten hätte man schluss machen müssen mit dieser "Demokratie"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_HKYuVLRwA

>>128316595
>in school
How are the teachers? Are they still preaching -multiculturalism
-there are no human races
-Islam belongs to Germany
-Hitler was a bad guy xDDD
...?

>>128317528
Say what you like about Herr Schicklgruber, he really moved the Overton Window.

>>128318460
Speaking English is a pretty good protection from your own regime. Use your own language on the Internet and your in immediate danger.

However /pol/'s flags don't help the cause either.

Captcha: 1810 Patton

>>128317847
From what I gather about the "working" class it highly depends on the specific area and profession. Recently the happening in Nürnberg, where I suspected to be almost exclusivly antifa toughs, the prostes against the deportation turned out to be strongly supported by the trade school students.

>>128318440
(((lieberberg))) is only mad because he's losing money anyway

I brought up some stats in a group chat, where everybody is at least a friendly aquaintance but one solid-linksjugend fag just called me racist and straight out refused to engage. I have to say many are not unwilling to speak with me about for example taking in migrats, but most are just so spoiled that, in the end, they have a guilt impulse and even indirectly admit that. I know some people that you can joke around with about antifags, but it's still quite accepted and everyone has a refugee fetish. For example, recently at my Abiball there were prizes given out to the 2 out of the 5 brown people for social engagement and refugee dicksukking. It's quite hard to convince people that there are problems with the invaders, mostly because I live in a beatiful area in the Pfalz and in a university town, but I'm actually motivated by the fact that every close friend I've got I've at least got to to admit that the migrant situation is a fat problem and most people with a brain are at least somewhat open minded. Still, publicly and with unaquainted folks it's social suicide and of course most people are retarded and want den süßen Schulderlass durch Selbstaufgabe.

>>128318460

Idiots like you hurt our cause and make us all look bad.

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My closest friends have always been staunchly anti-Islam and anti-immigration. Perhaps the reason I am as well is because I grew up with them. They also know and sometimes browse /pol/, though mainly stick to the Finnish board. My father "woke up" when the refugee crisis began and as time has passed, he even talks about the race war, though he's not aware of the meme terms as he doesn't browse /pol/ and his English isn't good enough to read complex information in English.

However, at my hobbies and at my university, it's mostly cultural marxists, though I've befriended some who are not cultural marxists. They stay quiet though on their opinions due to the social lynching that would occur.

Climate is wonderful, we are so far ahead that we dont need to talk about anything political anymore.

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>>128317317
>>128317528

>pic related will take us Heim ins Reich

>>128318837
BfV officers still can't into English? :-)
They have no power here!

>>128316595
I do that now at work in the UK, ignore all political discussions. Pretend I know nothing about it.

>>128319096
hmm i dont know, no mustache at all?

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>>128319082
It also helps to keep head clear when you can openly discuss taboo things like race and IQ, the white genocide, race war etc. with your trusted close ones. The red pills don't hurt as much.

>>128319212

Just look at Krautchan, half the people are just there because they are unterschichtfags who can barely articulate themselves in their native tongue. Quite sad actually.

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>>128318837
Scher dich weg antideutsches lappenkind.

>>128318460
All the hate against democracy is certainly short sided there are different concepts of democracy, I doubt many here would have anything against athenian democracy. Also if there would be or was direct vote on the pressing issues of our time the results would be mostly those our nation would have needed. The thing are partys not acting on the will of the people, but mostly on the will of the Media and lobbyists.

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>>128319507
Berlin crawling with foreigners for decades isn't redpill enough for them? Then they don't care about Germany, then they only smug about own existence.

German bros I have a question. I was told that a lot of German people use the same fake last name on social media sites and the word has a meaning along the lines of 'none of your business'. What's that word they use?

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>>128319825
Amigo das heißt short-sighted, wie die sich

>>128318779
>at my Abiball there were prizes given out to the 2 out of the 5 brown people for social engagement and refugee dicksukking
Were the teachers still preaching multiculturalism in class or was it just some virtue signaling for public by the school administration?

>>128320137
Maybe "wayne"?

>>128318580
>-multiculturalism
obviously
>-there are no human races
"there is only one race, the human race"
>-Islam belongs to Germany
With about 10% we had surprisingly many Turks at school for a gymnasium, who would have cried racism if a teacher mentioned something like this, however we had some teachers that appeared to be kinda redpilled, even though they didn't talk about those issues.
I cannot dare to imagine what abhorrent hellhole the average Hauptschule or Realschule in a city is for a german kid.
>-Hitler was a bad guy xDDD
The entirety of history class since Oberstufe was a fucking Nazi guilttrip.

Thank god I have my Abitur now and don't have to deal with this shit anymore, hopefully the political discourse gets better at University, but I fear it wont.

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>>128315342
Most of the ones i know are NationalSocalists but then again i knew them for 5-6 years and slowly turned them and for myself i was born in a Right Family

>>128320137

No idea what you are talking about, you don't mean "Bernd", do you?

>>128320006
Berliners love it, just like hamburgers or Kölners. People from bit cities are mostly degenerate to the core

>>128320271
No it was a compound German word, you know the ones that runabunchofwordstogethertomakeonebigword.

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>>128319825
Wenn du weiter lust hast das Antifa und Neo-nazis frei rumlaufen und Ausländer uns durchficken dürfen dann bitteschön, ich aber nicht. Eine tolle Regierung haben wir da.

Falls du es noch nicht gemerkt hast, alles Einheitsbrei. Wenn jemand die Demokratie zerstört hat dann Merkel und ihre Partei, SPD hat mitgemacht fleißig über viele Jahre.

>>128320298
>The entirety of history class since Oberstufe was a fucking Nazi guilttrip.
I missed out on that, thanks to sick leave. :-D

>>128315342
Germans are becoming right-wing? Sounds too good to be true

>>128320137
>>128320453

Gehtdichnichtsan ?

>>128320170
Has something to do with not risking any dox, but sure you right.

>>128320786
They aren't "becoming", alot of them are. It's just that the conservative party moved towards the left and now there is a big hole on the political spectrum. People who voted them DIDN'T WANT to be flooded by thousands of immigrants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIQnHOkR4cQ

>>128316338
As craftsman in East Germany I can confirm.
The elders aren't mincing words.

>>128320171
I have never experienced teachers directly promoting it. What I experienced was them taking it as a given and demonizing the AfD, as well as a politically correct atmosphere so thick sometimes I could barely breathe. The Dachau and Buchenwald visit were also a pure guilt injection.
>was it just some virtue signaling for public by the school administration?
they were actually active, but for one at least it was 80% virtue signalling. They also held a speech about how "we don't need strong men like putin, erdogan or trump"

>>128315342
they all hate you

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>go to nearest supermarket
>everyone there is foreigner

There is no dawn for Germany

>>128321520
My history lessons ended with 1789. All my knowledge about Hitler Germany I got from 4chan. :-D

>>128315342
Most males in my (broader) family are pretty right wing, the females less so.
Some friends are anti-"refugee" others don't engage in talks about this topic. One single upper class (his parents certainly are from the wealthiest 1%) student is pro-refugees.

>>128320744
Lucky you, highlight was a trip to Dachau where the tourguide apparently "forgot to mention" that the Dachau gas cambers were never put to use, even in the official holocaust story.


However school had it's fun parts.
My english teacher was a private Nate Siver to laugh at, telling me for a whole year "Trump won't win any delegates", "Ok he might won some states, but he definately wont get the nomination"...
His face on 9. November was fucking hillarious.

>>128320863
This might be it. But it for some reason I thought it was a longer word.

>>128322033
it could also be "istmirdochegal" or "ismirdochegal"

>>128315559
You're correct. Frankfurt school Adorno bullshit, the pathologizing of political views (((they))) wish to suppress

>>128321981
Yeah, I completely missed out on that and never visited a KZ site ever in my life.
However I was still left-leaning when leaving school in the late 90s and it took a few years to get redpilled afterwards.

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Was haltet ihr so von (((Anetta Kahane))) und Julia Schramm?

>>128321981
>Dachau
>Dachau gas cambers were never put to use

Holly shit, I've been to Dachau on a school trip, too and the guide did not tell that either (as to the best of my memory).

Did not know that until know. Thank you for the Volksaufklärung.

>>128321981
lol i also visited Dachau and in 10th grade already a friend of mine and me made fun of the lampshade and soap shit. I also wasn't told that the gaschamber wasn't put to use

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>>128321520
>The Dachau and Buchenwald visit were also a pure guilt injection
Man brauch sich nicht wundern. Die Antideutschen werden gradezu wie am Fließband produziert mit dieser Schulbildung. Was bringt es uns wenn man aus jedem einen Schoppenhauer macht.

ITT: All Germans find out they were lied to in Dachau.

>>128323362
Im Ethikunterricht wurden Adorno (gegen Institutionen) und ein normaler Mensch gleichgestellt und als ich damals, noch total blauäugig und unwissend schon gegen Adorno argumentiert hab, hat der Lehrer angefangen Adorno zu stützen. BRD HURRA

>>128315342
I legitimately think that my mom will vote AfD next time. She voted Green before.
Apart from that most of my friends are left/far-left. They all supoort gay marriage and stuff like that. However they are not as blind to refugee related problems as one would imagine.

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I wish I had German steam Friends so I could learn the language of my forefathers before it dies out.
I know it's better over here but I wish I could come and help but alas Gramps needed that free north US farmland so here I am.

Außerdem wurden uns schöne Filme über den Islam gezeigt und permanent über die Kreuzzüge gewettert. Einfach nur noch kriminell

>>128323482
I think I remember who the guide lead us into the chamber, named "Brausebad" from the outside, how inhuman it was to lead the inmates there without them knowing and then inducing the gas.

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>tfw this is what kids in Poland speak in the parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9luYIdNHmI

>tfw kids in primary school want to offend each other they just use words like gypsy, jew or refugee
>tfw more than 90% of Polish teenagers do not want to accept any refugee

I have to admit, though, that it is kinda because of your actions in the past, Germans. Karma is a bitch, remember that

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>>128324731
damnnn wrong pic, fuck it

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>>128324637

The "muh crusades" argument is so tiring and all the people who use it know fuck all about history.

>>128324731
if someone were to do that over here he would probably be tried for hate speech. In our (((Grundgesetz))) we have an article which litarally makes it obligatory to push for "european integration".

>>128324731
>saves Poland from the kikes
>saves Poland from the Muslims by making Poles fascists

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>>128315342
EASY!
Start the discussion with compatibles.
Undesireables commies and people who vote other than FDP or AfD get thrown out of a Helicopter, k?

>>128325543
Die FDP koaliert doch mit jedem wies passt und lässt sich mit Vergnügen von Mutti unterbuttern, solang sie ein paar Steuererleichterungen für Apotheker, Hoteliers oder Ärzte dafür bekommt

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>>128325472
> hate speech
kek
70% of speeches in that day were similar to this, they were even defending our literally fascist party that leftists try to shut down and ban
Slovakians have literal Nazi party in their parliament, pic rel, check the number

>>128325543
>FDP
"Aus Sicht der Freien Demokraten sollten sich Asyl und Einwanderung künftig nicht mehr gegenseitig ausschließen. Wer als Asylbewerber nach Deutschland einreist und gleichzeitig die Bedingungen für die reguläre Einwanderung erfüllt, soll deshalb bleiben können."
>refugees should stay here
"Eine Quote zur gerechten Verteilung der Flüchtlinge auf alle EU-Staaten"
>refugees should be brought to every European country. It cannot be that Poland and Hungary are still not enriched
"Bereits im Januar 2015 bekräftigte Christian Dürr die Forderungen nach einem sofortigen Zugang zum Ausbildungsmarkt für Asylbewerber und verwies auf zahlreiche Stimmen aus Handwerk und Industrie, die junge Flüchtlinge als Auszubildende einstellen wollten."
>refugees should get work, so they will never leave

https://www.fdp.de/position/fluechtlingspolitik

>social circle
what is this?
i don't know any german in real life who even knows 4chan, not even reddit. germans are mostly real lifers, who watch tv or youtubers and listen to the radio and read mainstream newspapers.

>>128315559
It's a shit word because a phobia is an irrational fear. It's entirely rational to fear Islam.

>>128324419
I wouldn't mind teaching americans all dem nice verbs, nouns and adjectives but americans are stuck-up cunts who use every opportunity to go "LELELE jermins led der cuntry dai" and then they get upset when i give them their counterpart... Muslim movements, Antifa college libtards and 9/11

>>128327081
Yeah, but what opinions do your acquaintances hold?

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>>128322460
Shut the fuck up, you have never read any of his works.

>>128327428
i left all my family, i'm alone with my gf now. she has the same opinions like me.
basically everybody who's dependend on his job, social security or depenend on anything else is political correct, because they are scared about their existence. also most workers watch tv (at least 4 hours daily) and listen to radio (at least 8 hours daily), what do you expect?
the workers are the biggest force in germany, germany will only change when the workers (age group 30-50) will change their mind.
might sound insane, but most of them think angela merkel does a really really good job. seems insane, i know, but it's just reality. that's why she's in power.

>>128324419
Duolingo has a German course.
Get going with it, then get into German YouTube content.

>>128328362
die in a hole, shill. Adorno is a culture destroyer, masturbate to him all you want

>>128327376
>LELELE jermins led der cuntry dai

On /pol/, Americans also say that terrorist attacks can't happen here because the terrorist would be shot; which isn't likely. Americans here are usually Larpers.

it is a shame though because German education is dying across the country, fewer and fewer colleges and high schools teach it anymore. I wish my children could go through a German language education for religious reasons

>>128328476
>also most workers watch tv (at least 4 hours daily)
I cannot receive TV anymore. I have no cable access and they shut down DVB-T in April. So no BRD propaganda for Anon. :-)

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>>128321520
My history teacher was an active Die Linke 'activist', just imagine the lessons.

>>128329067
Yeah, well i'd love to help you with your entire attempt to get germanized, but all i could ever service you with is vocables, because grammatic rules are NOT like your american english, sir. It's granite tough to learn for the likes of you, i can imagine.

>>128328741
>defending americunts and their cold war propaganda

How did your country become such puppet for the US?

>>128329889
That wasn't me before; I'm pretty proficient in German, mate, thanks though. I don't speak it very often, but I do read it a lot. I'm talking about full German immersion education as my state, Pennsylvania, had it until around 1880 in private schools

>>128330599
Well, with pronounciation i can help you.
And why the fuck was that not you?
Stop being a commie by sharing the people's computer. acknowledge private property, m8

>>128318170

My German isn't good enough to catch everything, can I get a rough translation?

>>128330260
I read Adorno you finnish cretin, next you're going to argue that "there is no such thing as cultural marxism"

>>128330908
I am fucking sick and tired of people claiming "this is not my islam", yet not one muslims demonstrates against this kind of behavior!
We are the punchingbags of this scenario!
How does it come that football matches get max security on bomb threats and can still run their sports festival?!
and rest is just more silent ranting. hard to make out.

>>128315342
warte nur noch auf mein k1 visa um dieses liberal drecksloch zu verlassen.

>>128330904
I'm actually pretty good at pronunciation, most Germans assume I'm a native speaker. I have issue speaking, or chatting rather, in it because I almost never do it and small talk always seems awkward in German. I meant I wasn't the guy looking for Germans on Steam. What region are you from?

Burger from Texas who has also lived in Cali, Colorado, and Belgium. Germany is one of the least lefty places I've lived (outside of TX, of course.)

Admittedly I haven't done much traveling outside of where I live in DE, but from what I've learned it's really not that bad. Maybe if I went to a larger city for a while I might think different. My gf wears my MAGA hat around her uni campus and no one says anything to her about it. I also met a guy one the bus wearing one and he said he's gotten some shit for it.

If San Francisco is 0/10 and Texas is 10/10, I'd put Germany somewhere around a 5 or 6.

>>128331535
That's not because its german small-talk, its because its small talk.

You try to speak with people you actually have nothing to say to, but yet try make an icebreaker and that looks cringey..
The fuck did you excpet?

"uhm... we have weather today, huh?"

>>128331946
Yeah, that's part of the issue I only know a handful of Germans in passing. So it's only ever smalltalk which fizzles out and makes them uncomfortable

>>128331424

ty hanschan

>>128331246
I just think that what you interpit as cultural marxism is nothing like what it actually is.

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I think HRE education would go a long way in instilling nationalism in newer generations of germans.

the mistake is when looking back focusing on the third reich, that not only failed but has massive social stigma attached to it making it extremely difficult to bring in outsiders to the cause.

the first reich lasted a thousand years and is literally the source of the western world, though they don't really teach anyone about this in school anymore. learn about it, teach about it, take the flag back. knowing how strong your country was once and how weak it is today creates subconscious desires in people to make things better.

So does AfD electing a dyke raising two children in a non-traditional home make it more "palatable" for Germans?

>>128315342
My social circle is starting to get optimistic about the chances of a socialist revolution

>>128315342
>political climate in your social circle?
>your social circle

You kidding?
Im not a normie.

Absolute cancer. Most of them are lefties, and then there is that one tranny ancom with its cancerous ideology.

>>128332708
>So does AfD electing a dyke raising two children in a non-traditional home make it more "palatable" for Germans?

Do you guys even know anything about her? She's ex-Goldman Sachs, she's a neoliberal to the max.

The entire party consists of neoliberal shills who favor rule of the elite and wageslavery.

>>128315342
My social circle is being redpilled by me and my bros and they are all starting to lean right.

>>128315342
Also, this might mean you are in a pretty small bubble.
AfD support is nowhere close where it once was

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>>128328362
>Adorno
Kenne den Mann nicht. Wikipedia hat ja nicht viel Auschluss gegeben. Was hat er den so tolles gesagt außer Kapitalismuskritik?

Das der Kapitalismus nicht funktioniert und die Demokratie aushöhlt ist mir nichts neues und letzteres seit Spengler bekannt.

>>128333510
THEN WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO VOTE FOR THE BUNDESTAG!?

I am NOT going anarcho like those Antifa-cunts.

>>128329067
There really is no point to learning a foreign language unless you use it. I'm glad they teached us english at schools or else basically 90% of the internet I browse today, I couldn't read or understand what they say.

>>128334264
I had to teach English to myself, because I got only a few years of Latin in school.

>>128334264
english is a german dialect anyway.

>>128334173

Move to Bayern and vote for CSU.

>>128334974
It is, and most of americans claim german heritage. Wir haben gerne dein Land aufgebaut, damit du uns beleidigen kannst.

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Ostdeutschland! Pic related is my hometown from last Tuesday. 500 people marching the streets. Nobody gives a fuck here and speaks out openly what he thinks. It has never been different.

If you don't want any more CDU your only choice is Die Linke

>>128334173
We don't vote anymore Hans. It is pretty obvious what needs to be done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9sVcRxopJU

I can't be asked though since I don't wanna get involved in politics. Right now it's not that bad but what really needs to happen is you need to have a good well thought out plan on how to replace capitalism with another working system before anything happens or else we just doom us.

What is likely gonna happen though is people gonna calm down when AfD gets voted in and only later they realize they voted for Raubtierkapitalismus pur. When that happens hell is gonna break lose. We most likely won't even be around anymore when that happens.

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>>128334974
English is a West Germanic language, as is German

>>128334264
I actually agree with this. Despite my own interest in German literature, philosophy, and theology I have to admit that my German speaking ancestors would've probably thought I was wasting my time by studying it and reading in it when no one else was anymore.

The German-speaking community in the US had multiple chances to protect their language and distinctiveness over the course of three hundred years and each time chose more assimilation

>>128334173
Voting in Germany is irrelevant

>>128315342
When I was living back in Germany my friends were all upset with the situation in Germany. None of them wanted all these muslims in their country. Mind you these are all normal, hard working normies who try to keep their families going and live a good life. Granted a few friends of friends who were working in the refugee industry are isufferable and will call out any criticism of refugees with most vicious terms, ready to crash any social meeting if you dare to speak up.

But the sad truth is, that those who are upset have no idea what to vote for. Any vote for CDU/FDP will mean things will progress as they do now. Any vote for SPD/Green/Left will mean that shit will go down the drain faster. AfD is not viable for many because the German press makes sure to drag up any dirt they can find on them.

I'd guess CDU and FDP will make it this year with Merkle going full speed ahead with Europe and MultiKulti.

>>128336601

t. Anon who can't into politics

Educate yourself and look up the media voter theorem.

>>128336601
>Die Linke
The problem with the left is they are too far into the future. Alle Menschen sind gleich only works when people finally abondend religion and traditions to form a world government. The next step over hundreds of years will be for the Abendland and Morgenland to become one.

>>128338047
I don't understand this alternative reality german /pol/ seems to be living in where everyone is staunchly anti-refugees, but nobody is voting anti-refugee or creating a viable anti-refugee party.

>>128338097
I voted for Die Linke in Berlin a little while ago.
We no longer have the CDU in the government because the groko no longer had a majority.

>>128315559
>psychology
>legitimate

>>128338047
Explain this, I take it's just a cultural thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrxOVbkMG-A

>>128336601
>>128338097
>>128338875
>All of this has been predicted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScxxRAxEL2s

>>128338875
>Die Linke
Do you want to worsen the problem mr.bourgeoisie?

Voting for identity is the last thing left, and if you just get the fuck out there and work and slowly try the same tricks the left does on people around you!
one possible strategy is the "emotional appeal"
you can still make him yearn for peace without islam in his world, by declaring that this cannot be the future, the problem is systemic and that laws are too laxe

>>128337863
most hutterite communities last I checked were speaking german as a first language.

>>128339270
It is called "Freedom of Speech". The people in that video made a fool out of themself for everyone to see. Some people might agree, but most of them will call them rightwing nutjobs.

I know, it is an alien concept back in Germany, not thait Maas goes full out of his hatespeech shit and Germans lose their job for daring to speak up against muslims.

>>128338554
>but nobody is voting anti-refugee
There is no anti refugee party other than the AfD, and those guys simply gets destroyed by the media. Not everyone is a savy internet /pol/ poster like you, anon.

>creating a viable anti-refugee party.
Again, out media will ruin your life faster than you can print your parties manifesto.

Best hope Germany has is that Merkel flipflops on the refugee shit and goes hardline against them.

>>128339930
He is as scared of the left as I am of the right.
Good to see they are humans too and not just bad people.
Doesn't change my convictions though.

>>128340053
Sorry, but I have no idea what you are trying to communicate.
>>128340514
I do agree with you that the media could do a better job of critisizing the big parties.
They feel more like representatives of the state than critical independant observers.

This topic makes me feel quite hopeless.

>>128341336
I am trying to convey the fact that putting your head in the sand during democrating elections is the fucking stupidest you could do.
we can't be passive. we've been passive for too long. THE END IS RHINE.

>>128341748
I'm not passive. Realizing the SPD is just going to spend the rest of its political life enabling the CDU I'm switching my vote to Die Linke and trying to convince as many people as I can to do the same.

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>>128340514
Well the difference is, your land has like 2% immigrants and the cliche is that japanese are the most xenophobic nation out there. That kinda brings out a different light on this video for us. Well then Japan is basically the same like Germany in that regard because most people don't like those "rightwing nutjobs" and no I don't think Japan is racist or is doing it wrong for having only 2%.

>>128341748
>>128342229
It doesn't matter what you vote, it only matters how happenings steer the unwashed masses.
The 20+ percent AfD last year weren't /pol/ voting.

>>128342229
Just what do you want of the Left?
Social Security Shekels aren't enough for you to buy your soul back when Germany truly turned into germanistan.
I don't want to know for the third time that you vote left, but WHY?
They are the fucking antifa-enabling little no-borders and one-world idiots... and quite frankly, even thought i fear their influence, i know they wont get parliament power.

Dieser Albtraum endet nur mit der AfD als Erlöser und Links als Auslöscher.
Du hast die Wahl ob das Schwert in deiner oder in eines syrers steckt.

>>128343884
I'm just not scared of evil immigrants destroying this country.
I come regularly to /pol/ and it hasn't convinced me in the slightest.
My worries are about de Maizere building the Stasi wet dream.
Or Schäuble "saving money" by keeping a huge chunk of the german population on the brink of ruin and forcing the rest of the EU to do even worse things to their people.
Or the CDU and SPD both sticking their heads in the sand regarding automation and having no answers for how the comming non-work-based economy is supposed to work

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for all the ones calling the AfD out for being fags that won´t achieve anything:
the AfD is just a stepping stone for normal people to be able to express their right leaning opinion in some way. The more votes the AfD gets, the more it will be normal to be """right leaning""""

political climate: lots of hiding power lvl, lots of only care for their own well being. some ultra niggerlovers (women and cucks in mixed relationships)

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>>128315342
people's revolution soon comrade

>>128345407
But they're NOT natsoc! They're for wageslavery for germans and for the jewish banks. They just coat themselves in nationalism.

>>128346688
Nobody wants natsoc in Germany.

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>>128328636
I will do thanks. I definitely need to do something active and learn it that way.

>>128348515
What's the point of the AFD when it's just LARPing to be nationalistic when it doesn't want to empower the german people through a strong state?

>>128345407
Yes, they will revive the right. because you can't write Gerechtigkeit ohne RECHTs

>>128346688
B-bu-but!
Hätte, hätte, Fahradkette, halt den rand mit deiner puristenvorstellung. Einigkeit muss erreicht werden und bei gott, die etablierten Parteien kriegen's nicht auf die Reihe das Volk zu Vertreten. vetreten lieber Sandneger die #NichtAlleMoslems auf twitter jammern aber mit vorliebe auf uns knallen würden.

>>128345046
Mann sieht sich während des Kaliphats
bezahl schonmal deine Jiyza.

>>128349381
Shill. They don't give a shit about you there just pretending. I don't see how this helps. A Movement that isn't geniune is coopted.

>>128350241
You are ensuring the oppression of our people, further censorship measurements will be taken, genocide until exhaustion.
You as a commie-voting left will do nothing but harm, shill. Mann sieht sich in der Hölle, Achmed.

>>128348982
AfD is nothing more than a CDU rolled back 25 years. Of course, that is "Nazi" know that the others have turned into another SED/KPdSU-tier EUSSR apparatus.

>>128351630
Well, that's good. because CDU is not acting like the Conservative Party it fashions itself as.
The AfD is though

>>128340514
>Best hope Germany has is that Merkel flipflops on the refugee shit and goes hardline against them.
Hardline? Merkel? Flipflopping at the very least requires you to go from one defined point to its opposite. Merkel does not do defined points. She exists in a complete political vacuum, freely floating from one public-opinion poll to the next without ever looking back to the destruction in her path.

All she will do is letting some no-name party upstart implement an idiotic "burqa-ban lite" to look like she is doing something and then will continue to do what she has been doing since even before she was elected to head-cunt of cuckmany: Absolutely nothing.

>>128345046
This is why 18-year-olds shouldn't vote.

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>>128315342
Schleswig-Holstein,
People don't care and are mostly in a natural, calm state. We laugh about happenings and silly sandniggers. Ideology is not that important here, one big faction had the slogan "Kompetenz statt Ideologie"
Kommunisten und andere Verräter sind schlimmer als Juden und müssen noch vor ihnen vernichtet werden. Sieg Heil, Wotan kommt wieder!

>>128353089
Bundeslandbruder,
People ARE relaxed, way too relaxed, they don't really laugh at happenings, but get their priorities and morals from the News which tell them that Muslims are the real victims when 22 people died in Manchester and so forth.

Viele wählen aus Tradition statt aus Überzeugung, was unserer Demokratie sehr Schadet. Das ist moderne Politikverdrossenheit.
Viele heranwachsende Erwachsene fühlen sich ungehört vom Staat mit ihren wünschen, sind recht Antriebslos und natürlich wenn sie einen rechts-drall haben werden sofort von den medien angespornt sich selbst zu hassen und das ihre partei basislos sei. das sagte mann von vielen frühen Parteien.

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In austria I see more and more leftist (like me) turning in "right" or lets say realistic thinking.

Anyway austria election are in october. We will turn the west europe to the next right level. Social party will bet out. Green party will be on the bottom.

This will have a huge effect in europe, specially for Germany.

>>128315342
Hello there american propaganda ministry, now fuck off. you wont get any support from Germany or the EU in syria, you will not build the saudi pipiline and you will fuck off European soil.

>>128354563
I don't think you are right, but i hope you would be.
Germans don't really give a shit about Austrians. it might come up in the news once and that'd be it.

I just want relative peace again so we can exhaust our frustration on taxes and other things such as the gap between rich and poor.

>>128354563
>This will have a huge effect in europe, specially for Germany.
Remember when you voted Haider in and the entire 14 other members of the EU immediately blackmailed you into dropping him? That day I learned that the EU is not a righteous institution, even though I didn't even like conservatives at the time.

>>128354981
wow how stupid, I hope you're trolling, this is just pathetic

"Fuck off European soil" you say as your PM floods you with nigs and Turks, jesus christ.

I hate the fucking US govt too, but the German govt is just as evil and fucked up.

Your attitude is retarded as fuck. You have no independence, and your govt doesn't just do what it does because America makes it, your own people are brainwashed and go along with it

>inb4 you cry about de-nazification instead of living in 2017

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>>128353927
In welchem Kreis lebst du, ich komme aus Ost-Holstein in einer Stadt mit ~10.000 Einwohnern, hauptsächlich Alten. Ein Kumpel von mir hat SPD gewählt, was mich an ihm zweifeln lies. In meiner Schule schmeißen einige "scherzhaft" Beleidigungen auf Ausländer und die meisten lachen, die Lehrer tun es auch aber sagen danach, dass es ja so böse sei :D

>>128315342
My close friends are all 14/88 hitlermode, even the ones that used to be tolerant.

People from my uni are all bluepilled cucks though, cant argue with them because they will scream and shout and tear their hair out when you say something mean about brownies.

>>128355643
Small correction: We were flooded by turks because the USA wanted to have turkey in the NATO and us taking in "guest workers" was one of turkey's conditions.

>>128315342

>thinking any western european country is salvageable

Disconnect, and let go of dead nations. Instead focus on your family, and bringing as many white children into the world as possible. You will be far happier.

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>>128355643
Crying about de-nazification is living in 2017

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>>128315342
Is there any chance you guys will chimp out again? I have a feeling nobody is going to rush to stop you guys this time if you do.

>>128356088
Yea, but the govt is yours now. You can't always just blame the USA. It's your problem now, fucker. I hate the US govt too,

The US govt and German govts are both just greedy capitalistic anti-White systems, nothing more, you can't blame the entire nation of America. We're all brainwashed now.

>>128356307
I am sorry for you but I'm German American, we need to not blame each other. We need to just love our people. If attacking America could actually end up saving Gemany, I'd agree with it.

Also, reminder that German nationalism ONLY being Hitlerism is another leftwing lie. A lot of Hitler's enemies were German nationalists who wanted a different type of German nation.

>>128357027
Mate, I'm german, we don't like politicians in general because we realize that they are utterly disconnected from the people they supposedly represent. So when a german criticizes the USA, we typically mean your gov, not your people. By my experience, americans are amongst the most stand-up guys in the world.

What you also have to realize about German politics is how subservient our gov is to yours. After former Chancellor Schröder denied you military support for your Iraq invasion, Angela Merkel flew over to the USA and prostated herself before Bush, saying that if her party was in power, Bush would have German troops, too. There is absolutely no decision made in Berlin that is not approved by the shadow gov of the US. It's all a show made to look like we have free will. Look how Merkel handled the NSA scandal or the Ukraine and you will see what I mean.

>>128358531
The main question is who is control now?
Trump?

>>128358531
OK I agree that's all horrible, but please just realize that we Americans are just as oppressed by the insanity of the western governmental system. It's really that simple.

We have to unite as European people (by blood) and resist. I know that's not possible, yet, but it's getting easier. Anti-Islam is a foot in the door.

>>128315342
My social circle is starting to get redpilled as fuck, even the leftist. I`m just coming back from the Bar and literally everyone was just hatting on Islam and being supportive to Trump.
Based Bavarians being based.

>>128358876
>>128358897
Shadow gov, or deep state, as they now call it. Obviously none of us know if Trump is working for them, with them or against them, but this whole system would not work if people could replace vital parts by randomly voting every few years.

I am afraid germans will absolutely not rise up against the system until major western powers have gone first. The fear of standing isolated (again) is just too much.

By the time you are done taking in all the immigrants it will be real easy to open the camps back up.

Maybe germany is still ourguy?

>>128358897
The most important thing to know is that the allies (not Germans) ensured that Germans have no official way to vote president or chancellor into office.
That means there is also no way for a German citizen, who is eligible for vote, to run for these positions.
But more importantly that means there is also no way to vote anybody out of office. And this is what nobody understands here.
So officially there is no way to get rid of Merkel, simple as that.

>>128359465
Don't stand isolated, be a partner with other European groups standing for native European survival and rights.

Frame it as a human rights struggle, call your enemies "the real Nazis" and say they want to do genocide on you "which the Nazis wanted too".

You can fucking pull this off if you have the willpower and the brains. Don't give up.

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>See this thread
>Enter just because I'm curious
>Literally find MUH GERMAN HERITAGE BURGER
Everytime

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>>128360198
Oh nooooo a country whose largest ethnic group is German descended people has people who are interested in their connection to Germany

WHATEVER SHALL WE DO

>>128359491
I just came back from a year long trip to the US and the amount of redpills that have been swallowed here in the meantime is absurd. A guy that I knew as a hardcore leftist literally talked about gassing all the "Kanaken".
Feels good to no longer hide my power level.

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>>128360595
Genetically (and culturally too since its what the country is founded on) our largest ethnic group is English, its just those roots go back so far people dont even know who their ancestors are and just put down America.

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>>128360595
>whose largest ethnic group is German descended
>US

>>128361131
>Genetically (and culturally too since its what the country is founded on) our largest ethnic group is English
that's just false, Germans are the biggest single ethnic group, not that it fucking matters, I'm German American, that's the point.

>>128361211
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans

Now you aren't ignorant

>>128359949
The problem is: If I were to miraculously manage to rally my people, drum up militias and take down the gov, village by village, town by town, city by city until I can finally tear down Berlin and install some form of distinctively german government, all while dodging CIA assassins and coopters, I would immediately face a hostile international society painting me to be the next hitler/nazis simply because they fear the power of a unified, independent germany and making that association is the easiest way to do it.

If you americans were to put down a signal that it is ok to do this and it would be picked up by france and britain, we would be ready to go. The people here are certainly ready.

Effictively none in europe dares to move without being certain to have the support of the US people.

>>128361617
Wow I never said drum up militias, just change the mindset of the people.

Right now that's not possible, but you need to push for it. Things can change, and I'm sure Angela Merkel and friends want you to think it's hopeless.

There's a reason why they crack down on even small criticism of Islam and immigration, because it's a virus that can grow and explode things.

The way things are NEVER always stays the same. Good luck friend

>>128361617
+This
the German people are definitely ready, we are just afraid of outside interference, but I feel like 1-3 attacks more and we are just gonna go full Reich again anyway.

>>128361966
>but I feel like 1-3 attacks more and we are just gonna go full Reich again anyway.
I strongly doubt that. I just think that you need 5-10 yrs and a big explosion of anti-immigration sentiment

Am I wrong?

>>128361966
We need to move Germany to a remote island, which is actually defendable.
Fuck being sitting ducks in Central Europe.

>>128355643
The jude shrikes back in disbelieve and deny is its existence, he cry s, I WAS FOUND OUT!

>>128362273
>it's another "this post is wrong imo so you're a Jew" retardpost
You're making anti-Jewish sentiment look retarded, faggot, cut it out you dumb faggot

>>128362629
The root cause of all our problems.

Meine Damen und Herren.
Der Amerikaner.

>>128362225
The anti emigration sentiment is already there. Maybe not in the (((media))) but in the normal people.
The whole powder cake just needs a spark.
>128362244
Anon leider können wir uns nicht einfach irgendwo ins Meer pflanzen, aber die Österreicher sind eh krasser drauf als wir, die Polen werden uns nicht aufhalten, die Benelux sind nutzlos und die Frenaken mit ihren eigenen Mudslims beschäftigt. Egal ob in Europa oder auf ner Insel, außer den Anglos wird niemand was versuchen.

>>128315342
My friend is obsessed with Germany and thinks it's the best country ever. He's been there a few times and speaks the language. To him Merkel is awesome and he thinks people don't like her because they are scared of non whites. I tried talking to him about the influx in crime and sensorship due to immigration and he just brushed the whole thing off. He's only had good experiences in Germany and I've never been so I don't know. How blue pilled is he? Or am I just brainwashed by right wing propaganda?

>>128363008
Ironic that without Germans moving to America you wouldn't have had the American army of WW1 or WW2.... hmmm interesting

>>128361562
Not to mention by ius sanguinis (law of blood), which is still in effect in germany, you are more of a german than most of the people who have been given citizenship in the last decades.

>>128362225
We don't even need an anti-immigration sentiment. Even the germans that are pro-immigration still want a limit on it and we all want to kick out the bastards that abuse our immigration policies, which our government plain up refuses to do. Even our immigrants want to stop this shit.

>>128363373
He isn`t to blue pilled, as redpilled as a lot of Germans are, for some reason they still like the Chancellor but he massively underestimates the hatred that burns in a lot of Germans and they are are obviously not sharing that with a foreigner.

>>128363556
I hope you guys don't accept Turks as Germans, right?

Some German asshole on here said a totally assimilated Turk is more German than me.

>>128319082
hi, father here, german vpn exit.
did you remember 2 take the trash out, you know how mother is

>>128361562
>that's just false
not at all m8. Actually research this shit.

>The number of people who reported English ancestry decreased by at least 20 million since the 1980 U.S. Census, partly because more citizens of English descent have started to list themselves as "American.

http://www.businessinsider.com/largest-ethnic-groups-in-america-2013-8

>>128364832
Archive

>http://businessinsider com/largest-ethnic-groups-in-america-2013-8
https://archive.is/7pInU

>>128363866
If you are willing to completely assimilate, meaning language, culture and loyalty to the point where you are willing to fight and die with us, we are somewhat honor-bound to accept you. We did the same with the french and the polish, and that actually worked out well. With the Turks, it's harder, because they are nationalist fucks that only "intigrate" for the better economic gains. Some are good people, but they will always look like a foreign body until interbred enough to pass as german.

As far as american germans are concerned: "Blut ist dicker als Wasser" (blood is thicker than water).

>>128320137
there is also 'tut nix zur sache'

>>128364832
Descendants of English are more mixed with other White ethnic groups, there are more pure Germans left, though.

Large parts of the country are ethnically almost 100% German, same can't be said for English, anymore.

>>128324419
Translate Hitler's speeches, word by word, using dict.cc
Eventually you'll be able to watch House of Cards or whatever Netflix shit you want with German language and English subtitles.
Heil Hitler

>>128363466
Its rather sad that they had to leave in first place.

Now let me red pill you traitor, the america from 70 years ago is dead. It died the day you elected the neocons and invaded iraq for oil.

You are on your own.

The Iraq invasion and support of Saudi brought us all this.

Now fuck off my continent.

>>128365161
I can admit that sure. I'm not even pure English only 70%, others being Swiss, Irish, and Welsh, but still as a single ethnic groups the United States is most genetically influenced by the English, even if its not the most pure.

>>128363373
He is a brain washed faggot

>>128365766
Don't drive wedges between allies, Bernd. (((They))) would love that. He's as much a victim as any of us, or do you really believe he wanted all of this to happen?

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>>128315342
15 years in germany as a foreigner and i'm right leaning. I usually avoid political discussions but, whenever it comes up, everyone leans to a rather "Ausländer-frei" Germany.

Seriously, when in Rome do as the romans. But this fucking sandnegers hier fucked it all up.

I still want to be able to eat Maultaschen in 5 years.
I want a german germany.

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>>128365766
The Iraq invasion was 14 years ago. These weekly terrorist attacks only began when Mutti started flooding the continent with Muslims. 90% of these cunts are military aged males. How the hell you believe they're legitimate refugees is beyond me. Where do you suppose their wives and daughters are? Why are so many from countries that are not at war?

>>128361562
>not that it fucking matters
Germans are genetically collectivist cucks, while the English are hardwired for limited government, individualism, and English common law.

>>128366417
>90% of these cunts are military aged males.
The reason for that is that the trip is hard and so many families won't even bother sending women or the elderly. Typically they bank on the male arriving first and then somehow finding a safer way to get the rest out after establishing himself in the host country. Additionally, according to some actual syrian refugees, young, military age males are prime targets for getting either killed or conscripted by the so-called "moderate" rebels, which are just ISIS clones with worse organization and PR.

So the next time some liberal-cunt is telling you that the refugees are fleeing ISIS or assad, you can tell them they are actually fleeing from the moderates the US gov loves so much.

>>128315342
Is it true that if you raise your arm at a 50 degree angle in Germany you'll get sniped by the chancellor?

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>>128367304
>the journey is hard

The kike NGOs give them a fucking ride to the coast.

The whole point of the refugee program is that they're supposed to be people fleeing imminent death. These are males leisurely going to Europe for gibmedats with the vague hope that Mutti will let their family come soon.

>>128367618
Yeah, those are the fake refugees we get along with the actual refugees. We also get shitloads of guys from the balkans. They are all "Wirtschaftsflüchtlinge" (economic refugees) trying to make a fortune through german wages or just sit on our welfare. Our government has no way to distinguish one from the other and does nothing to fix that situation, and once they are inside, we have literally no means to force them out, unless they volunteerly go back (they never do).

It pisses us off somewhat fierce that at least half of the refugees we get are just pretending to be under threat of death. Again, we wouldn't mind housing ACTUAL refugees, for a limited time, with a fixed limit on numbers. Instead we get criminals and lyers trying to "avenge" the second world war by leeching off our work.

>>128368573
Just shut it all down. Refugee camps in neighboring countries are more effective anyway. Euro for euro, you'd be helping more refugees.

>>128368803
If I could I'd be having a red wedding in Berlin right now, and then put up a few concentration camps while declaring that any refugee will land in one, with no hope of ever gaining german citizenship, a job or welfare. They wouldn't even be bad camps, but you could bet your ass only those refugees that actually fear for their lives would even consider coming here.

>>128368573
When the money runs out, there will be a Radikallösung. What else?

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So Germans aren't cucked? This is fantastic!

>>128369373
Will they have showers?

>>128369564
And cozy ovens, to keep them warm in the winter and scare away the jews.

>>128369564
Too costly, Waschbecken only.

>>128369857
>Too costly
It's on me. My treat.

>>128369857
We could simply rearrange a few sewage pipes, but I'm afraid that would attract indians.

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>>128369857
>tfw my Oma still gets mad at me if I flush the toilet too much or if my showers are too long

OMA, I'M A GROWN MAN, STOP BEING CHEAP WITH MY MONEY WHEN YOU VISIT

Lesen und verstehen.
Read and understand.
https://gaschambertemp.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/the-gas-chamber-temperature/comment-page-1/
https://bumibahagia.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/menuhin-gerard_wahrheit-sagen-teufel-jagen.pdf

>>128317951
East germans aren't germans they are russian mongol rapebabies

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVQ6FDs3qdQ

This Kind would be kinda optimal o/

>>128370513
>the-gas-chamber-temperature
Not even reading that. Is it about Zyklon B only turning gaseous after reaching a certain temperature? Because it's rather hard to explain why germany would produce and ship so much de-lousing agent to the front lines when the stuff requires an extensive heating setup to work, while the troops where freezing to death.

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>>128315342

The left is going to crash and burn in October and they know it. It's like they have already given up. The Conservatives went from 20% to 35% practically overnight after Kurz took over the party by coup and moved it to the right. Sure he's taken some from the FPÖ, but together they're now at 60%. In mandates, with luck this might even translate into a Conservative-nationalist 2/3 majority, enough to change the Constitution, if necessary.

The Greens dug themselves deeper into the hole by nominating a dyke who swiftly declared closing down the Balkan route last year was a mistake. It's like they want to crash and burn in October.